Hollow Knight Godmaster Lore Explained
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- Опубликовано: 19 июн 2024
- Godmaster is finally here, and it's huge, as I correctly predicted. The Godseeker's are a rude bunch, but let's see if we can help them out. I'm sure nothing bad will happen.
I did this thing called "Bass Booster" in Audacity, so I'm sorry if my audio is a little weird. I hate audio editing so much.
I would like to emphasize that you shouldn't take the views expressed in these videos as fact. My main goal has always been to provide information. I provide interpretation as well, but that doesn't mean you have to agree with me. If you want to dig deeper into this content pack, check out the text file below that has all of the new dialogue from the update.
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Video Chapters
0:00 Spoiler Warning
0:12 Introduction
1:19 Fluke lore
3:18 Pale Lurker
4:07 Godseekers' origins
7:50 Finding the Godseeker
10:13 Nailmaster lore
12:11 Godseekers' goal
13:30 Pure Vessel
15:38 Pantheon 4 cutscene
16:45 Godhome observations
17:48 Patheon of Hallownest
20:41 Void Entity revealed
24:13 Void Entity explained
27:53 Embrace the Void ending
30:22 Delicate Flower ending
31:38 Outro... kinda
33:13 Thank you 
Игры
>too fragile to ride a stag
>anihilates void
wtf is wrong with this flower xd
Crispy Banana it is called sacred by the grey mourner.
Must be something like quantum physics with particles and anti-particles : when they met they destroy eachother (or something like that)
@@Kl00k606 it was stated in the game that wyrms created and ruled over kingdoms in multiple parts of the land, maybe one died and from it's corpse this flowers emerged, that's why they are pale, not for the king, but from another wyrm
Fragile does not mean inert, in fact being fragile sometimes is what makes things powerful. Uranium is so fragile it splits itself, showering everything in lethal doses of radiation.
Curious, because the description says that the fragile flower had Pale Light, and the Stag told the Knight that the Pale King never rode in a Stag before. And the Pale King was from an unknown land as the flower.
9:20 _"I don't know why the Knight keeps agreeing to perform errands for all these random bugs it finds."_
*NO MIND TO THINK*
KingMako30 jokes aside this explanation is really good.
ANOTHER QUEST! Give me
NO VOICE TO CRY OUT SUFFERING
I still think this knight has emotions and just got so strong he beat the radiance to hek
KingMako30 makes me wonder how come our knight wasn’t chosen? They don’t care about *ANYTHING*
Also, lets not forget.
Zote can forcefully invade godhome through the sheer power of his ego.
And Bretta can create a god through sheer power of her fangirling.
"False god conjured by the lonely" yeah dont beat grey prince zote and he wont appear in the Pantheon lmao hes just a boss that feels bullshit bc you know he sucks ass
So do pantheon before beating grey prince zote?
@@Ari_178 doesnt really matter. If you can beat him in the normal fight you probably do it in the pantheon fight without much more effort
@@Ari_178 if you let him die in greenpath he won’t show up
@@ChiefNubayy I know
Ah, I remember when theorists called Silksong the Hornet DLC
What is silksong?/j
@@the_legendary_vin Game that never came out and will never come out /hj
@@amj.composer hmm, interesting, maybe we'll get Xenoverse 3 as we wait
@@the_legendary_vin oh no no, xenoverse 3 AND silksong is never coming out
The “upcoming” Hornet DLC
"It does know its allowed to say no, right?"
Sorry, no voice to cry suffering
Brickmaster E and no mind to think
no will to break either
primal aspid disagrees
I have no mouth and I must scream
It should just carry a paper that says no, if the knight can draw a map then it can draw 2 letters
"Which means Flukemarm is connonically a milf" still gets me every time I see this. It's the perfect blend of out of left field and technically correct to strike a few chords
It was obvious from the beginning
@@G_Macks Ayo? 🤨
ikr
Wait she wasn’t a milf this whole time
Hear me out here
What if Team Cherry just adds stuff without thinking of lore and then waits for Mossbag to write it for them
plausible
That's D&D level story telling, let the player come up with the story and act like that was the original as you quickly cross out your notes and rewrite some encounters
Bungie and byf
Ah, the Scott Cawthon technique.
fnaf lore, probably
I found the journal entry for the Pale Lurker oddly funny. Basically saying "she's not even infected, she's just Like That."
I like to think that she’s an elaborate gollum reference
@@funnyvideoguy3216 Where was Gondor when Hallownest fell?
@@wildfire9280 it was also falling
“Hark! Thou has posted cringer! Thous shall lose attunement!”
DAMN YE CRINGER
THOU CRINGER
English please
AlyBoDrowned14 Exactly
You may laugh now, children.
So is no one mentioning the bug who gives you the shade cloak? It's dream nail dialogue is "Lord of shades"! That bug worshiped the Shade Lord.
Maybe.
I mean, he worships the idea? Theory? What if they initially assumed the likelihood of embodied and focused darkness, but could not achieve the necessary conditions to translate it in real? Therefore, they worshiped the concept of a possible deity in the future, while not having a real Lord of Shades?
@@farresalt4381 The void tendrils also popped up when you got close to where they were. Therefore, void had some mind already. It is possible the Shade Lord controlled these. He also roared against the Radiance when the vessels were young, meaning he existed to some extent a long time ago.
@@KaroxNightshade maybe the radiance actually attempted to destroy the vessels before they were completed and what was left of the shade lord avoided it.
I say this because the shade lord in his prime took the absolute radiance like a bitch, maybe the reason it is just regular radiance is because the shade lord beat the crap out of her in a moment? Idk there is a lot to think about
Brian Machado This theory gave me a new view on things. It is very possible that that being is the previous attempt at victory over the radiance. I find this theory refreshing and new, as most theories have been said a thousand times
I’d like to point out that the blaring ringing of the godtuner falls silent as soon as Bill appears.
who is bill?
@@cyanbaba7795 Bill mama-no, wait, that doesn't work.
@@cyanbaba7795 the shade lord. It’s the name that Mossbag used.
Ah yes, goomy is best waifu, also lasagna is 👌
@@tech6hutch who's Mossbag?
11:53-12:02 "What's the deal with Sly's voice? Does Team Cherry just let any random person off the street record lines for these characters?"
*Graig* ( Team Cherry's lead play tester and voice of Sly ): *Sad Graig Noises intensify*
29:29
take a close look at the endings where you don't fight the radiance, AKA, where the knight takes on the task of containing the infection. Note how in these endings the chains of the seal react immideatley and start to restrain the knight. I believe the seal reacts to the vessel that is currently containing the radiance, since it was made speciffically for the purpouse of containing it. That would explain why the hollow knight was able to leave the seal in the new endings, because if the radiance no longer exists, then it is just no more than an empty vessel, and the seal stops working on it. Just a thought tho.
droher i thought the same thing
That's actually a very strong, and logical, way of looking at it. You actually managed to make sense of that. Good job!
I had the Same idea
droher why didn't they chain the hollow knight instantly then
Indeed
The dream nail dialogue for the dead nailsmith, "pure," is the same as the ancient nailsmith's.
and is the same name of the last nail
So that means that or both nailsmiths wanted to be killed, or that every nailsmith fate is to be killed by a pure mail!
@@Gigafuckass or they just was talking about pure nail
@@chesnaught_ph4291 that's one of the coolest things un Hollow Knight, anyone can interpret the things like whatever they want
@@Gigafuckass ye
When Mato came after you beat Oro is so wholesome.
No fight or argument they had could stop them from helping each other when theyre in trouble, those are true brothers.
I like the part where you beat them, because they both say Obama of you listen closely
Ah yes two brother get over a long fight to beat the shit out of there student
@@meleamendez6221 wholesome moment
@@meleamendez6221 mean, if you think about it, they both take pride in teaching the knight, and if having to team up to defeat your student isn't an indication of how well you've taught them, what is lol
So yes, quite wholesome actually lmao
13:42 I’ve always thought Vessels are naturally supposed to grow to that size, considering how tall the White Lady and how big PK’s Wyrm form is. Plus, Broken Vessel is about twice the size of the Knight, and has presumably been out of the Abyss longer, and has had the chance to grow.
Yeah, and since things that live in the abyss dont need to feed themselves but dont grow nor age either, our knight is still pretty smol
I'd say that makes sense, but if they were all born around the same time, wouldn't they all be about the same age? Including the Knight and the Broken Vessel? My own guess is that they all have the potential to grow to Broken Vessel's size, but most don't. Chalk it up to a lack of training or a lack of proper nutrition or whatever. I'd say that whatever the underlying reason, it's probably similar to why most humans don't become body builders.
BVs cloak is longer, yes, but h is roughly the same size not counting his big ass horns
@@hobbyist518 true. but the knight did come from outside hallownest, and considering hallownest gives the bugs their intelligence and whatnot it wouldnt surprise me that the PKs influence could maybe change how his children grow?
@@waxocelot9395 i would argue that it definitely seems like the horns should grow, though. in addition, it's slightly physically taller than the knight and has a more rounded head, perhaps implying that the vessels' heads become more angular as they grow up.
Honestly I'm hoping the Shade Lord isn't the antagonist of the Hornet dlc because I really like the idea of
a) Being an overpowered eldritch abomination a la Kirby
b) Being friends with an overpowered eldritch abomination, yet again a la Kirby
Still that's the coolest option I can came up with.
C) the horrible abomination is your half sibling
Is a pretty good one too
Wait one sec… Godtamer is a god?
So many confusing feelings!
CAS
Don’t kink shame
She tames beasts. I think the beast is the god, Godtamer just came with it.
@@lemmonboy6459 kink shaming IS his kink
i used the god to tame the god
@@KaroxNightshade If so, then in Hall of Gods, Godtamer wouldn't be reffered to the way she is. I think if one can tame a god, one can become god
"Upcoming hornet DLC" Ah how strange it is hearing that knowing now that it's a full on new game. Man I'm hype for silksong, hope they give a release date some time soon.
"soon" 9 months ago
Yikes
hgrge
Ha ha, “10 months ago” they aren’t giving us any date any time soon! Hahahahahah hahahaha *cries insufferably*
@@TheCheeselordForever *cries with you*
i like how in the grimm fight instead of bowing to you normally he actually turns to the godmaster
"Not bug, nor beast, nor god"
"Void given form"
"Void given focus"
Damn those are some of the coolest quotes I've heard
Hello
@@lordofshades9852 yo Angelo
@@rootbourne4454 I have found a fellow JoJo weeb and I am happy
@@lordofshades9852 Heck yeah jojo/hollow knight fans unite!
@@rootbourne4454 now i want to see hollow knight characters with stands...
Hornet has stone ocean,just saying
One more extremely interesting thing to note, In the abyss where you get the shade cloak if you dreamnail the dead bug holding the bowl of void he says "Lord of Shades..." Which makes it seem that the shade lord did in fact exist before hallownest
One more detail you're missing, it says that IF you have void heart, if you don't it says "power without unity" this may mean that the hollow knight IS the lord of shade, gaining void heart gives them the power of complete void godhood, like the description first read of the knight "void given mind"
So maybe now in the next DLC we may be figthing ourselfs? Like a rematch of hornet and the knight/Shade Lord?
Good Point! Also how Hornet beats the Shade Lord... BDSM.
But wait, if the dlc is about Hornet defeating us the knight (Shade Lord) what happens if you just get the flower ending? You don't get the dlc?
But the flower ending doesnt change the Shade Lord/Knight, it still consumes the godseekers and defeats the Absolute Radiance.
"The Knight then looks up and catches the Hollow Knight's eye...holes..." lmao
The dung defender probably chained the godseeker up, you need a simple key to get into the waterways so it would make sense that he'd have a simple lock handy, plus it's also his area and he probably thought the godseeker would be worshipped and tried to stop that so that the pale king was the only one worshipped.
I personally think it’s the nail masters before they broke up and that’s why there already attuned
The way you get into waterways is not by unlocking some generic lock but rather using that weird shrine thingy that requires the key. I don't know what it is, but it certainly isn't similar to the one on the cocoon.
@@skeptic_lemon it is a generic lock.... U only need a simple key for the waterways..
@@nobodycares1065 I'm not talking about gameplay. Yes it is a regular lock and functions like every other lock. What I'm talking about is that it isn't the kind of lock that is on the cocoon of the godseeker. It looks different. That's all.
"We shall be listening closely"
Since the godmasters live in silence without gods, them _listening_ to you suggests they start acknowledging you as a god
I think the thing that defines a god for the Godseekers is independent thought. That's why they acknowledge Hallownest weaklings as gods.
The knight dream nails the radiance for the sake of a lore video and dies immediately after: NO COST TOO GREAT.
When I first saw the cutscene of all of the Vessels in the Abyss, I had a feeling that was the soon-to-be-Hollow Knight and "Little Ghost" acknowledging the fact that they were siblings, and the closest to family they could find. The two in particular being in a metaphorical spotlight cements that they're the only ones left in all of Hallownest. The Void covering the screen in response to the Radiance displays how they were specifically created to defeat the latter after being claimed by the Void itself.
In the case of the Hollow Knight leaving the Temple of the Black Egg, I think the reason for the dragging chains is just the fact that it wasn't cut down first. In the original game, you have to destroy the anchors to all of the chains as well as the seals binding them there, after which Hollow itself throws off whatever's left before the boss battle starts. Since the Infection is gone and the Hollow Knight has, effectively, lived out its purpose, the seals fall apart and the chain anchors along with them. With how far the Hollow Knight has fallen, it doesn't even have the strength given by the Infection to get rid of the remaining chains. Hell, it must've been barely able to hold itself up long enough to retrieve its nail, if only to use it as a crutch to drag itself outside.
Hornet was probably only surprised by the Hollow Knight's arrival because of the fact that it could come out to begin with. Odds are, she'll realize pretty quick that it isn't under the control of any outside force (unless it's there to save their sibling). Personally, I'm looking forward to what kind of role the Hollow Knight may play if Team Cherry goes further down this road, what with it being freed and able to now walk alongside its half-sister. Who knows? Maybe since it's been proven that the Hollow Knight is in fact sentient and able to do everything it specifically wasn't meant to do, they'll even give it a proper voice.
I really like this one. just have the hollow knight primitively walking everywhere trying to help, kinda like how the knight basically walks around running errands for everyone.
@@ananmaysahu4563 yep
I can imagine thk helping elderbug cross the road
Imagine being able to play as him at some point in the story and just tearing through all the enemies.
@@aesiro1336 If that ever becomes possible, I imagine the primary drawback would be needing to navigate around its own size because it's so tall.
@@shadowstar8619 Well, it is probably going to be a different map than in Hollow Knight, plus a bigger map would be more suited to a character that can swing around like Spiderman.
"It does know it can say "no", right?"
-no voice to cry suffering intensifies-
mossbag : *puts spoiler warning*
Me : Thats why i'm here
That spy is not one of ours!
@@animosutheanonymous SPAH SAPPING MAH GODTUNER
Take a look at the shade lord. Now take a look at the Hunter.
Coincidence?
Probably.
Shade Lord is rocking a couple more eyes, so they're probably not related.
The Hunter is probably more related to Herrah, because they both have six eyes, and says that Hornet (someone also related to Herrah) is a Hunter.
The shade lord looks more like the mask in the arena
The Shade Lord could be a giant PRIMAL ASPID MADE OF VOID.
Hunter has said before that he has siblings 🤔
11:48
I’m pretty sure in Sly’s house in Dirtmouth, after learning all three nail arts, he says something about remaining pupils. This almost confirms he taught a lot, and had a lot of other people in which he trained, but so many of them actually died, and with that, their art.
Tbh, I always thought Hollow Knight got freed by the egg itself.
We did see that the Black Egg does seem to be able to operate on its own (and maybe even have some sort of a mind?), so it is possible that once Radience died, the Black Egg just freed the HK since it had no reason to have him sealed anymore
That makes sense!
Also: if you kill 57 Zotelings in the Eternal Ordeal, you get a new title screen.
Oh that's where that dumb background comes from.
ClayXros *DUMB?!?!*
Ahaaa 57 ;3
@@clayxros576 *I PRAY THE MIGHTY GOD OF NOTHINGNESS SILENCE THEE FOREVER*
It is. I dunno why, but it is.
With this Pure Vessel Dream Nail dialogue, it becomes clear what the Path of Pain is. Why there's a Seal of Binding on it. What it represents.
The memory at the end of the Path of Pain isn't the Pale King's, its the Hollow Knight's. Its the most precious moment of its whole life, where its crazy ass father opened up to it....and incidentally fucked everything up by bestowing an idea onto it, making the Hollow Knight not hollow. The Path of Pain is both representative of the Hollow Knight's anguish at holding this precious memory close and corrupting itself while also trying to preserve it, which explains both how hard it is to get there (both to protect the memory from outsiders like the Radiance/Dream beings as well as to keep itself from thinking about it, from thinking not and feeling not) as well as the Seal of Binding placed at the start. To preserve something of great importance and to bind a great power, love adoration familial affection etc. Also the Sealed Vessel theme plays throughout, indicating this place being of importance and related directly to the Hollow Knight. Path of Pain lore expansion is just the gift that keeps on giving!
Hope we get even more fleshed out when the Hornet/Hollow Knight buddy cop DLC drops!
It was his weakness and attempted to sealed instead of eliminating it because it was probably the happiest moment in his life. Just to sad
That actually makes a lot of sense! I SUPPORT THIS THEORY
BIG BRAIN TIME
Goddamit every time I read more about the Hollow Knight it just makes me sadder. That poor thing wasn't allowed a single nice thing in their entire existence jfc
It could also make sense for it to be an actual part of the palace, because the king couldn't really tell if they had a mind, so he at least could've tested their physical abilities. He probably didn't want any of his subjects wandering in, either. The hollow knight seemingly completed the path, and at the end, you said what happened. The seal of binding being there is confusing to me, because it's hornet's seal.
I think that the shade lord is voids “True Form” because that’s how all the bosses are in god home there in their “True Form”
I think it's specifically pointed out that the shade lord is the void given focus basically i think that the void itself is its true form while a void given focus gains an actual "Form" just a thought though.
I always thought the Shade Lord looks just like the Hunter, who also has similar limbs to the Hollow Knight. Maybe the Hunter has more to do with the void than we ever could have guessed?
That would be very amusing, because one of the modes hints that the knight actually enjoys the thrill of combat after becoming the shadelord, meaning he is a battle junkie, much like the hunter who enjpys the thrill of the hunt and understands the world around him by doing so, a trait that he kinda somewhat passes on to the knight.
@@huntercraft5674 Wow, I never even thought of that! I wonder if the Hunter would be counted as a god in the pantheons.
@@huntercraft5674 the knight has no gender
@@noticeme6412 yeah, i know, its hard to have a gender if you got killed as a newborn and shortly after, got revived and turned undead by an eldritch force...
Perhaps i was too lazy to write "they"
@@noticeme6412 Dude, I have such a hard time with that. I'm not a native English speaker, I speak Spanish. And there's no 'gender neutral' way of speaking in Spanish. You say "la vasija" (the vessel), but that implies it is a girl. "El caballero" (The Knight) o "El pequeño fantasma" (Little Ghost), that implies it's a dude. Thus I just associate the Knight as a dude even though it doesn't HAVE a gender and it just fucks me up-
Inb4 the sequel is a buddy cop movie where you play as Hornet and Hollow Knight
I would love this, though that would mean that hornet would have to go through the wasteland of the outer world in order to get back to hollownest
would pay money to see that
@@judgment5090 She is half higher being, if any bug stands a chance of keeping one's mind it's a half-divine one!
I really want to play as our big brother knight.
I'd watch it
A tiny speculation: If the Hornet DLC is a sequel... Will we get to see the grubberflies after hatching from their father's stomach?!?!
that would be freaking dope
Awww! I hope so! That would be adorable. Ya know. Minus the empty husk of the Grubfather.
Father?
@@OMS21XX the one who ate all the grubs after finding them all
YES
29:55
I think the chains were made to bind the Radiance's vessel. But since the Radiance's power no longer exists, the chains become inert.
“Lorewise, i wanna say that in this moment, oro and mato are setting aside their differences and working together to try and beat the shit out of one of their pupils. Inspiring isn't it?"
Why did i laugh so hard-
They’re bonding over their shared pupil
Moss, in the endings A and B it looks like the chains activate when they find the presence of an infected vessel or something like that, so maybe by defeating Abs Rad and stopping the infection the chains simply go back to where they were, so that HK boi is free.
Jorge Casero v
Is that a Tokyo ghoul re profile picture
Maybe he's just super fuckin ripped and he was actually feelin really chill in the chains until he realized he didn't need to be there anymore.
comeh123 gotta love that theory
That's actually a lot better than my theory TBH.
I thought maybe the Hollow Knight himself had somehow chained himself, due to him clearly having enough self awareness to stab himself in a futile attempt to kill the Radiance/Infection in the boss fight vs Hollow Knight, therefore maybe he was sealing himself with whatever small mental capacity he had left. When the Radiance dies he was fully aware of the Infection being gone and can thus free himself. I completely forgot that unless the Knight also somehow understood this, the Knight gets chained up in the other endings.
It's interesting that Godhome is in dreams and the two gods who are most attuned to dream Essence "NKG and Radiance" are both knowingly affected by it. Grimm acknowledges that he was summoned there. And Radiance, since her entire existence is in the dream realm, will actually die if killed in God home. This should free the Hollow Knight too.
It also makes sense for Grimm not to die when you defeat him in a pantheon:
- For normal Grimm, he simply goes away from godhome and resumes doing whatever he was doing prior, either tending to the ritual or sleeping, he will return to godhome when he's called upon again by the godseekers.
- For the Nightmare king, I think you do kill him when you defeat in the pantheon, but the nightmare's heart, which is the true god of the nightmare realm (Grimm is just its servant, even in his Nightmare King form, as he's a king, not a god). So Grimm is killed, but the Nightmare Heart simply doesn't allow him to die in that way, as that death would not serve Grimm's purpose in the ritual as the father to burn in order to feed the child. Instead, when you defeat Grimm in his NKG form in the main game, you complete the ritual and so the Nightmare Heart lets him die to feed the child, then the troupe moves away from Hallownest.
- Otherwise, it's just gameplay but speculating about pointless things is fun
@@filipporapetti9354 Grimm is a god, just like Vengefly King and Massive Moss Charger. Just because he is a servant, doesn't mean he can't be a god. Interesting take though
@@blazcol_5046 Thanks!
So, I’m a gamer mom...not into playing at all...my son just showed me this and I’m absolutely enchanted! Terrific video... my mind is spinning! Thank you. I loved it!!!
Why feel the need to add you don't play yourself? Get lost, stay far away from this community, your mindset is becoming a relic of the past more and more
:)
There is one thing I love. Nosk’s whole thing is that he turns into loved ones of the people he hunts. Originally it was the knight because he didn’t hold anyone close. However in god home he turns into hornet. That makes me think that the knight holds hornet close to itself. He truly isn’t hollow.
Oh dang that makes the regular ending way darker but that’s a really cool theory
Well shit.
Good think we go ahead and handle the radiance
FLUKEMILF IS CANON BABYYYYY
akagura more like fat art mod
Lonkulus hey Flukemilf be sexy asf son
mmmmmmm dont like this post. dont like it one bit.
Please dont this game already rivals cuphead in terms of shitty fanart:1
@@dilestvegenerate5294 .... No it doesnt
0:12 I honestly thought you would say "Bapanada" after that sigh
Perhaps I need help
Haha, that would have been good
Bapanada octis. I know you’re not talking about Zote but that’s my favorite thing anyone says in the game audibly.
@@icankickflipok *Map begins to rattle but stops*
@@icankickflipok *bapanada **_fuck this_*
@Henry Sylvia *y e s*
Maybe the pure vessel is big is because he's older than the other vessels. Like he just...grew up. Since all the other vessels were killed pretty much at birth, none of them got a chance to grow up
With that knowledge the Knight would be the same size, since they were born at the same time and the knight obviously didn’t die
@@sethmasters4925 The Knight is malnourished then XD
15:38 "After the battle, we get this cutscene:" I literally got an ad for Wingstop the moment he said that
Lol
That IS the cutscene you are supposed to see, but due to a bug it shows a different thing.
@@ManioqIVbugs 😋
9:51
We could make a religion out of this
- Bill Wurtz
No, don't.
do
Oh my god, your right
I've helped make religions out of weirder......
*shatter* Whoops! Hallownest just broke, but while it was breaking Monomon had ideas about good morals!
Thou crawler! Though cringer! Thou smallest of the small!
Heckin’ smol boi!
you just posted cring you are going to lose attunement
@@triangletriangle4520 how he lose attunement if he was not attuned
thou posted cringer! now thou shall receive the punishment of the gods! * gets banned *
Every time he says "upcoming hornet dlc" take a shot.
To the head.
With a 9mm pistol.
14:55
"his dream nail dialogue is pretty sad"
procceds to put happy music
Happy music?
Inb4 defeat the shade lord without taking a hit so the flower contains it.
O h n o
Seems... somewhat viable. I can see that being a super secret ending or some shit.
I think you can't take the flower into Godhome though if the flower breaks on dreamgating
Godhome is accesible via Dream Nail, not Dream gates
@@nonary3731 I don't think the flower can withstand a travel via dream from a physical world to a dream world if it can't even stand a travel from 1 physical place to another physical place via dream.
I think it would be cool if the hollow knight was an npc in silksong because with the infection gone he's just another vessel like our character
If there is a third game, just a guess but I think it might be in the view of The Hollow Knight
That would be so damn cool to play as them
Either one would be really cool
Technically the knight is dead tho.
I get that I just think it would be cool
@@LovelyMishi If it took place after the Embrace the Void, or Delicate Flower ending then they would still be alive
The dream nail dialogue for the Pure Vessel is interesting, and it makes me sad for his eventual fate. My thoughts are that he was chosen, bonded with the pale king, then tried to force himself to have ‘no mind to think, no will to break’, and ‘no voice to cry suffering’. However, because his bond with his father gave him substance of some sort, he failed and became infected.
The Fact that Pure vessel tried not to Think for the sake of hallownest makes me soo sad
1:20 Zoteload is my new favorite expression.
28:15 Godseeker confirmed masochist. K I N K Y
No.
@@Cati_Offical yes.
Imagine being the first person to find the weathered mask “well here we go to do another pantheons. What. Where the hell am I.”
To add onto the shade Lord stuff, when you dream nail the weird fountain creature in the Abyss after getting the void heart it reads “Lord of Shades”. I wonder if that has any connection to what’s happening in Godhome....
30:44
The text says:
"PLEASE DON'T JUDGE MY VORE FETISH"
You're welcome
What if 4 years after this vid went up i JUDGED his vore fetish
MOSSBAG
Theorist god of lore.
RADIANT MOSSBAG
Radiant difficulty Mossbag is just a ten hour video on The Coloseum of Fools and The Abyss Creature.
VaatiVidya
Pretender God of Dark Lore
From the Pantheon of Loreceeper
For your issue with the Hollow Knight being able to break out of it's own chains, it's pretty clear the Hollow Knight has a formidable amount of strength on its own. The Seal of Binding over it's chains are likely what's actually keeping it in place, and that seal was likely created specifically to combat and trap the Radiance. Perhaps after the Radiance and thus the infection are destroyed, the chains become as weak as normal chains as the binding in this case would be dispelled. This would allow the Hollow Knight to just break out of it's bindings, as it does once you break the bindings in the base game fight. This is all speculation of course, but it'd make sense considering the Seal of Binding seems to be an invention of the Pale King himself rather than some remnant of the ancient civilization that he doesn't have full control of since we find the schematics for the seal within the Pale King's own palace rather than somewhere like the Abyss.
I think that the change in “mind” to “focus” is because the Knight is the controlling being in the Shade Lord, and the pale king said the Knight has “no mind to think”, so it is the knight focusing the void to its intentions
"I don't wanna have all this spoiled for me. I'm gonna try to finally beat the pantheon of the sage."
Grey Prince Zote.
"Nope. Nevermind. Gonna watch this video instead."
....I am reporting your comment. I am in this description and I don't like it.
Shouldnt have touched him before the pantheons dude
Same, that spamming pile of shockwaves and pain
Alright, got through that, time, for pantheon fo... *sees watcher knights* NOOOOPE
Please tell me this isn’t true because at the moment I’m trying to get through the pantheon of the sage and if grey prince zote is in it I’m gonna cry
The Godseekers' claim that they're trying to "attain communion" with a "great power sleeping in the kingdoms heart" also sounds like a better description of the void then the Radiance, who is at the uppermost edge of the kingdom fighting like hell to break free of the bindings of the Hollow Knights mind. The Godseeker may have been brought to Hallownest by a call from the void. Void-based creatures can communicate telepathically (the Hollow Knight awakening the Knight and starting the player's quest) and we know the Pale King attempted (with some success) to master the void. Perhaps the Godseeker mistook one for the other and in it's confusion, upon finding the Pale King 'erased', decided to settle for the Radiance until the Knight revealed the void, unified under their will and given focus by the Godseeker.
why do you belive void creatures communicate telepathically?
So what you're saying is that Godseeker was looking for the God of Gods and it went like this:
"Uh.. you? Oh wait, no it's you. My bad."
@@roiroije6326 sounds about right given their personality
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The script here proposes an interesting idea, that the events leading up to the Dream No More ending were _planned_ against the Pale King’s will and that everyone - the White Lady, Hornet, probably some other fuckers in the kingdom too - was waiting for a vessel like our Knight to reappear at Hallownest. An Enlightened Vessel, with the knowledge of their discarded Siblings and the stolen willpower of the King combined to Unite the Void and Consume the Radiance.
Of course, the inclusion of “Hornet DLC” speculation makes it a tad outdated, but that’s fine. Perhaps it could be reworked...
Mossbag: hornet dlc
Team cherri: *laughs in silksong*
Team cherry? Never heard of him
the hollow knight is able to free himself from the chains because the chains themselves are too weak to hold him. when you start the HK fight he breaks out of the remaining chains holding him up easily. whats actually keeping him imprisoned is a seal of binding. the chains the player breaks before fighting him have some sort of energy around them. this culminates in the seal of binding that prevents the player from damaging him. the seal of binding detected that the radiance was defeated and faded away. allowing the hollow knight to break free of the meager chains.
Dah Derpy Guy but why is hornet there? And why does the hollow knight approach her ? Why does he stick his nail in the ground but hornet attacks? ( to me it looks like the hollow knight is injured or using his nail to hold himself up )
@@gh0stgamez424 Horny is there probably waiting for knight to fight HK. She is in the door of Black egg temple so in the way of HK. He just woke up from being sick. He probably feels a little bad after that. That my opinion
makes sense can't disagree with that and hornet probably gets ready / attacks him because she probably thinks he is still infected and is hostile because of it ( imagine if in the hornet DLC we will be able to talk 2 the HK and learn shit from him )
horny is a pretty bad nickname for hornet or anyone, really.
makes sense
Other people: Shut up.
Me, an intellectual: I pray that the God of nothingness silence thee forever!
@@AyyubDurrah shut up
@@AyyubDurrah I am that God
Lord of Shades Hi Bill!
*BILL*
@@lordofshades9852 sup
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the possibility that the Pale Lurker chained up the Godseeker's coffin, since we find the simple key in her lair. Yes, there are several simple keys in the game, but they all open other locks within the game, whereas the Pale Lurker and her key were added with the Godmaster DLC. Her fighting prowess and obsession with the Pale King suggests that she was once a warrior loyal to the King - like the Five Great Knights or Xero. It's even possible that it was contact with the Godseeker's mind that drove her insane, which in turn resulted in her being captured and taken to the Colosseum.
I might be very late, but what i found interesting, is that we actually see the shade-lord, or at least a form of it, earlier. When sharp shadow equipped and you dash, you see the knight turn into an 4-eyed monster.. thingy. I dont know if this might help the theory, but i found this interesting :)
I want to think that the HK will fight for hallownest with Hornet in some way. I believe the pale king planned this all along, that his dream was to free his people from being always under some god's rule and in control of their power.
Since the radiance was using his kingdom as a battleground and if defeated, the void would have no enemy to defy it, I think the king raised the HK and gave him the mission to protect his kingdom, he gave him hope on purpose, knowing it' be strong enough to dedeat the infection but to eventually be consumed by his hope, needing a replacement. However, having that in mind, since our knight defeated the radiance and freed HK from it, he' still have the intentions to fight for his kingdom. It isn't as farfetched since the king DID see our knight climb up allomg with HK, but decided to ignore us, he was cold amd emotionless towards us, maybe in purpose as well?
Could the HK betray the place he was born from and help hornet to defeat the shade lord for the sake of the kingdom? After all, we know he does have those feelings.
Anyways, fantastic video! I love Hollow knight's lore and I love discussing about it. Team cherry always seems to be a step above us, so I'm trying to guess what they're gonna be up to, and I'm all up for some HK badassness being on the good side thanks to what the king taught him.
hey you play hk too.
So when are you finishing your second season of your series?
Its a nice observation about pale king having planned all of this beforehand,I've heard theories that he could have some kind of future prediction powers. Maybe he knew that HK couldn't hold the radiance, so he locked the knight inside the abyss, so he could escape the abyss, and exiting the kingdom.
Since the vessels are not bugs, they could function outside the Hallownest.Hornet herself said that the knight had another kind of emptiness. With this emptiness added to its own and the combats through Hallownest, little ghost managed to get strong enough to defy the higher beings. Maybe each ending is a possible future seen by the pale king, without the void heart the worst scenario, and the defeat of radiance the best one.
But I dont think the Pale King wanted to free the bugs in that way,since it seems that wyrms attracting bugs and making them submit to them is what they do. Idk if this is just my opinion, but the Pale King seems to see the kingdom more like a object or something he needs or somethings he owns, rather than individuals. Radiance is just his competitor, its not about saving the kingdom, but about securing a resource, in this case bugs.
Then, the Pale King probably knew about the true nature of the void. My theory is that the black substance we see the void take form in the game, is the remains of a former higher being that was worshiped before Hallownest.What happened to this god? Idk, maybe like Unn its powers just faded with time, maybe radiance managed to weaken him into this liquid form and trapped in the abyss, maybe before dealing with radiance, the pale king dealt with the void, or the pale king seek the void and trapped it in the abyss in this liquid form to use it to make the vessels.
One thing that makes this interesting, its that we have more proof of the nature of the void. Most would think that PK would be desperate because of the infection, what if the reason of the desperation was because he was using void as material?Maybe he thought that dealing with void would be too risky in normal circumstances, but he took the risk because he needed to defeat the radiance.
Maybe he took the risk because he knew it would need something godly to revert the void to its prime state,so without a higher being, or maybe a higher being's light(idk if the white lady, Unn or Grimm have the light that can give bugs a mind like the hive mind from Radiance, or the individual mind of the PK) it couldn't be done. But he didn't counted on the godseeker attunement and their focus, that like it was said in the video, with help from the void heart, managed to awaken the shade lord.
And these are my thoughts about it. Really liked your comment, gave me a lot of ideas to think and I also have to say thanks for the video mossbag, you made a great analysis and gathered a lot of information, I didn't know about the cutscene with the vessels after you beat pure vessel, or that one about godseeker's memory. That was fun, I love discussing lore
I didnt expect camila to know the game Hollow Knight!
@@XPowerfullXPlayerX bruh chill
Nothing better than a nice long hollow knight lore video!
"It seems like Hallownest is going to get fucked by the Void, and it's up to Hornet to stop it."
Or it just vanished because it accidentally spilled one drop of itself on a flower that is utterly destroyed when you prick your toe on a tiny thorn.
15:38 "after the battle, we get this cutscene"
*ad*
If the infection is gone, why would Hollow Knight stay in its chains? It seems obvious to me that the chains destroyed themselves at the same time as the Radiance: the Pale King thought of Hollow Knight as his child, it makes sense that he would devise a failsafe to the prison if the infection disappears, so that Hollow can be free
Um actually, the character at the end cutscene with Hornet, if you look closely, it’s clearly Nosk
Dafuq u mean? It's the Moss Prophet.
You are both wrong, it's Mr. Mushroom's next form.
holy fuck you guys are idiots, it's obviously myla
Are you stupid or something? That is obviously the elder bug
No no no. It’s clearly lemm. He wants his 10 eggs
32:20
“But there is something not in the game I need to talk about”
Raid shadow legend.
11:35
*absolute radiance*
hi this is about the hollow Knight escaping the chains if you remember when you defeat the radiance the black egg temple completely dissolves so if the radiance is no longer a thing then the black egg temple is no longer a thing so the chains probably no longer exist
You can see in the cutscene that the black egg is still there. I like to think that the chains existed there to contain the infection, but since the radiance had been destroyed, the power that strengthened them probably weakened which allowed the hollow knight to free itself
@@hexagonalhd5797 we are going so insane we are hyper analyzing how the final boss escaped some chains holy shit lmao
The Shadelord is the knight. If you use the awakened nail on the statue that gives you the shade cloak, it will read 'void, power without unity' and dreamnail it again with the void heart, it will read 'lord of shades' instead. Another thing is that while the knight obtained the void heart and unified the shades, the knight was simply a part of the void. The shadelord however is a personification of the void itself, with the knight given control over the void and godly focus to direct it to that form. This leads me to believe that it is the knight roaring at the end of the fourth pantheon as foreshadowing of its true power
I support this theory.
Kuzu :D, i second this comment
"Hornet DLC"
Now that is something I haven heard in a while
"How did the Hollow Knight free itself?"
Perhaps in the reverse way that the Knight is chained in the Hollow Knight ending?
There's no one around to do that. It's an automatic process by the Black Egg itself, presumably through all the magical seals and stuff. It's quite possible that the chains and seal of binding are "programmed" to detect if there is a Vessel containing the Radiance within the inner heart of the Black Egg, and to bind it if so.
This idea clashes with the intention that the Hollow Knight was meant to be a permanent solution, that there was never meant to be another Vessel to replace it should things go wrong. But the chains binding the Knight in the Hollow Knight ending prove that such a process HAS to exist, despite the fact it doesn't really make sense. The chains only start binding AFTER the Knight has absorbed the Radiance. That's the trigger.
Perhaps it was meant as a precaution or failsafe? Or did the Pale King suspect that the Vessel would need to be replaced enough to account for it?
Regardless, the chains and bindings seem to be an automatic process of binding a Vessel containing the Radiance.
The Radiance who, in EtV ending, just got brutally murdered.
Which means there would be no more Radiance inside of the Hollow Knight.
And if the Temple itself is meant to detect a Vessel with the Radiance inside of them and bind them, it's not too much of a stretch to assume that the Black Egg itself just let them go when it detected that the Radiance was just spontaneously not there anymore.
I will say, it's odd that there's a chain dragging sound accompanying the Hollow Knight. If the magic seal stuff automatically vanished, wouldn't those chains have poofed out of existence exactly like how they magically disintegrate when the Knight breaks them int he THK fight? Why would they remain?
Another interesting thing is that the player can get the Embrace the Void ending without killing the Dreamers. It doesn't change the ending, it's still the same, but that's kinda depressing in my opinion. Because that idea, that the Knight can intentionally leave the Dreamers unharmed, seems like it would have fascinating implications for the lore. I'm sad there's not a secret ending for it. It would've been so interesting to explore.
I mean, unless the Dreamers just all died after waking up anyway, after so long in suspended animation. But where's the fun in that?
too late for that buddy, it's 5 years old too late i bet your comment would get pinned back then
Great Comment tho
Is mossbag the VaatiVidya of Hollow Knight?
No.
VaatiVidya is the mossbag of Dark Souls.
Well, mossbag doesn't steal content from other creators xD.
Mossbag doesn't milk shit to death lmao
Mossbags voice is ways sexier though
Oh yes it is.
@@cake6851 Don't you talk shit about Vaati. He is still the master of lore.
Finally. I am the literal
*HARDEST BOSS* in the new content pack.
Ascended markoth:im about to end this man whole carer
Radiant Gruz mother:I'm about to end this man's whole career
@@Feeling_Like_Karla I dont understand how Radiant Gruz mother was so hard...? Did it in like 10 tries
@@Raiko01 THE JOKE! WE FOUND IT!
@@Raiko01 if your PC is kinda shit, that bisch will lag your entire pc and yeet you the fuck out of the battle
25:23 HE ASCENDED WITH GORB
"Upcoming Hornet DLC"
Oh mossy, you poor soul
My idea of what is going on with the shade lord is that it's a hivemind, controlled by the knight and his voidheart, made of all the shades of the failed vessels and the hollow knight. The shades are in effect the void's version of a soul, which makes sense to me as I always saw void as being the antithesis of soul. The fact that it can create "souls", the collector and HK having a personality (to far different degrees), and the ability to program it to create constructs shows that the void, while it doesn't have conciousness to start with, readily accepts it and may even be meant to have it. Perhaps it even consumes and empties creatures in an attempt to make their consciousness it's own?
Anyway, I mention that because I believe that despite what the white lady says, The knight is not perfect, and has developed a mind of his own through experience. The simple fact that you're able to screw around on sidequests alludes to this, as a thoughtless entity wouldn't desire those things and so they wouldn't be game options unless the knight actually wanted to do them. I think that the Knight's personality is a reflection of the player's. Extremly curious, combat-loving, and focused on becoming powerful and heroic. Him becoming the Shade lord, given total power, fused with the minds and wills of his semi-conscious brethren, becoming a fully-formed personality and a powerful being, it's the fulfillment of his every desire.
This also means that the shade lord probably isn't evil. Assuming that due to the voidheart the knight is still in complete control, it would make no sense for him to bring suffering upon the kingdom he worked to save. Instead he may work to become the new god of hallownest, which could go wonderfully, as those void-worshipping ancients seem to have been pretty advanced, or terribly, as it did with the Radiance and her infection. Whatever it is, I just like to think that this character you've been playing as isn't just a thoughtless shell, and gets himself a good ending to his tale, as he deserves.
I really hope in the end we can see him again without dying he deserves it
i think that the gods attunement made the knight go back into it's prime form, before it got separated from the sea of void in the abyss, when the void was united completely, before part of it was injected into the eggs
I love your theory and the ending: "I like to think the character we play as has a personality" deal, cause I agree with you. The Knight being able to do sidequests, and do random shit the players do like summon Salubra, play in the rain in the City of Tears, bonking Bardoon's tail, beating up Millibelle to get their Geo back, etc. marks a personality, and the fact that Nosk turned into Hornet in Godhome means that the Knight has grown to care about her, too.
Great video! I do have one disagreement. I personally believe that the god seeker is absolutely terrified and is in a state of shock caused by fear during the last cinematic. My first piece of evidence is that she was clearly looking for the radiance throughout the whole dlc. She just saw the radiance get completely destroyed. While most bosses in the pantheon are defeated so that the knight can attune to them, the radiance is just dead and that terrifies and disappoints her in my opinion. Also the noises she makes sound more like whimpering to me and the way the godseeker in the junk pit seems to shake like someone trying to hold on to life I think supports this. Finally, the much sadder music that plays during the delicate flower ending makes me think that this is supposed to be a tragic scene of the godseeker holding on to a small gift from the knight while what she perceives as the knight destroys her from the inside. That’s why she clutches it so close while she is being consumed. Anyway, that’s just my opinion, congrats on 10k!
In the gamemode, the Godseeker praises you as the God of Gods
@@Hirungolwe True but you unlock it after the third pantheon before the Lord of shades kill everything
My interpretation is that the Godseeker fears you and is trying to kiss up to you. If Ghengis Khan knocked on your front door with an army of Monglols, you would kiss up to him too, or be killed.
@@hasiumcreeper5384 kiss?
Fidue My dude those two things are very different?
30:24 maybe Soul is a combination of Void and Light, being that the reason why pure vessels can do soul focus. In that therms, delicate flowers could simply be objects that bring balance between these two opposite forces, or in other words, peace.
All vessels can focus, they're higher beings. But pure vessels can do it without side effects.
Example, the soul sanctum scholars.
Due to them not being pure (without thought or regrets) they were deformed due to the regrets (or the whispers they hear). This further my idea that higher beings turn to void due to immense regret in the soul they steal.
You reflect on your regrets and let your soul, or shade rest (like in steel soul mode) or use a delicate flower.
The delicate flower having the ability to cure regrets as seen with lemer in the flower quest.
The knight experiences these mentioned side effects when he dies.
Due to your shade or regrets not set still, your soul meter breaks. Due to soul containing regrets.
Even after getting the void heart your shade and soul cannot become one.
It's only until the dream no more and godhome endings can your shade and soul become giving the shade the ability to focus.
"upcoming Hornet DLC" oh, sweet summer child.
I JUST REALIZED
Gorb was related to the Godseekers.
Ascend! Ascend ascend ascend with Gorb!
Attune with Gorb!
LOL
Oh my god
Oh my Gorb**
this is too fucking underrated
After watching video
"Damn, hyped for hornet vs shade lord next dlc!"
SILKSONG TRAILER
"..........welp, that's that."
That moment you make a DLC but it becomes a game
@@clayxros576 That moment when you trap yourself with a supposed DLC of a weak character fighting a god, so you just ditch the DLC and make a new game instead so you dont have to come up with bullshit for how hornet can defeat the shade lord
hello good sir she just needs to eat like 10 pale lords to absorb the pale soul to be powerful enough to be called the LORD OF PALES and then destroy the lord of shades
If you gave the flower to the Godseeker does the Hollow Knight still appear in the ending?
@@christiandauz3742
If I remember correctly, yes
8:18, I’m pretty sure that the most fitting is the collector, seeing as he always wants to collect and “preserve” things. He is also very close to godseeker, also the “forced hibernation” is very similar to how the collector catches the grubs and other small bugs, so the collector making a custom coffin an stuffing the godseeker in it doesn’t seem far fetched. My theory tho
i never noticed that the hollow knight had a missing arm
me too i feel even more sad about him
it also mean he cut off his arm while being chained up to try to break the chains
when he cut his arm he also lost his nail and couldn't grab it back
I'm 27 mins into this video and it seems you forget that zote is a higher being now thanks to the eternal ordeal battle.
Edit: you didnt forget. But you didnt mention that the title card appeared for zote. The same type of card that appears for the Nightmare King and the radiance. Even if this area is a joke, Team Cherry would need to outright state this minigame is not canon and they dont seem to enjoy saying things are or aren't canonical. So this is just allowing us to say Zote is a higher being.
I didn't even think of that! Good point!
Was it ever in doubt that Zote was a higher being? I knew from the moment I first laid eyes on him.
How did you think he'd survive his trip through Hallownest? His nail-wielding skills? What are you, stupid?
Maybe not since the description for the grey prince states "false god of the lonely" so Zote is still below everyone and everything in Hallownest even the Gruz Mother is more of a god than Zote
It's not much of a new revelation really, I already knew Zote was a higher being the moment I saw the ethereal look in his eyes after bravely combating the mighty vengfly
wait if hornet is just a half-god/higher being, are the vessels, the knight and the hollow knight full gods/higher beings fused with void making them higher beings plus plus?
Nobody 707 I think they are half god/higher beings, half void
Extra high being
"Made of God and Void."
i think neither because they are undead
"Of Root. Of God. Of Void." I think that's how it goes. The physical forms of the vessels were birthed of the union between the Pale King and the Pale Lady, then they were dropped into the abyss as eggs, where their minds/souls/consciousnesses were carved out of them and replaced with Void. As far as I know, only two vessels managed to be both functional and alive by the time of the game: the Hollow Knight and the Knight. The Broken Vessel did manage to escape the abyss, but it was hollowed out and piloted by the infection by that point so I'm not going to count it as alive. Though technically, the same could be said of the Hollow Knight...Congratulations on being the only living AND functional Vessel, Knight!
Crack Theory: Zote is a God.
Not only does he somehow manage to break into a section of the dream realm controlled by the godseekers, but when you enter the Eternal Ordeal, a full screen title appears. Only a few other bosses have full screen titles, those being the Radiance, Nightmare King Grimm, and (to an extent) the Hollow Knight. These are all extremely powerful creatures, and are essentially gods among gods, so the fact that ZOTE is given a full screen title implies that he is on the same level of power/importance as a god.
I had the exact same thought
N O
“After the battle, we see this cutscene”
*taco bell breakfast ad starts playing*
youtube is great lmao