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Waste? It's very interesting if you ask me. Also, I have a theory on why the bugs become infected right before fighting you. Possibly they were infected right before being let loose to make it harder for the knight, similar to how bulls are angered before bullfights. However, their entries in the hunter's journal says they were fighting for glory, which an infected bug wouldn't care about, so I'm not actually sure.
I think they meant by size. They said that testers felt overwhelmed by how big Hollow knight was (meaning map size). It's still huge, so, I think good choice and now they can use it for Silksong 🙂
"Silksong will be free for kickstarter backers" I thought it was originally going to be a free DLC pack? Whenst the fuck did you decide it was going to be paid regardless of whether you have Hollow Knight or not, Team Cherry?
@@caramelsgr They promised to their kickstarter backers that it'd be free, so they'd probably get a lot of backlash for not doing so; at least from the people that pledged. Most everyone else probably wouldn't care about SS being paid since they probably either wouldn't mind paying for a sequel or were unaware of SS entirely.
16:31 the bugs in the Howling Cliffs - at least on the surface, not the tunnels inside - are uninfected. Dream nailing them reveals that they're fleeing the light - the infection - whereas infected creatures will often talk about killing and burning.
16:28 The full text, you're welcome: There are two major questions surrounding the Colosseum of Fools. First, why is the Lord Fool dead? Second why aren't the members if the audience infected? Well, those are some pretty big questions. Let's take a step back for a moment. The Colosseum of Fools is located at Kingdom's Edge, as far out as the map allows us to go. So who knows if the Pale King even approved of this barbaric competition. Another interesting observation is that the entrance to the Colosseum looks like it might be the Wyrm Corpse that the Pale King left behind. So that means that the Wyrm was incredibly large if the other end reaches all the way to the Cast off Shell. Anyway, how did the Lord Fool die? Well just call me Frederick Herman Jones, because it looks like we have a mystery on our hands. Let's look at the evidence. First off, the Lord Fool has those black streaks across his eyes. But he also has them coming out of his back onto his frontward shell. These black streaks are really interesting to me. They are usually only found on bugs located in the Ancient Basin as well as the bug in the Queen's Garden who held the Love Key. The lighthouse keeper as well as a few of the Sibling Shells found in the Abyss also have them. The fact that the streaks are black and that most of the bugs that have them are near the Abyss always made me associate this feature with the Void. Of course, this might just be selective memory. Maybe there are bugs in other places higher up in the world that have these streaks. In fact, there are streaks on the mask tied up above the Lord Fool, which means these streams might just be a stylistic way of showing age. But if i'm right, and the Lord Fool is the lone exception, then this might be the clue we need. How would the Lord Fool get exposed to the void? Did the Hollow Knight train in the Colosseum? Okay, that's fucking stupid. (EDIT: Wait holy shit, look at the Hollow Knight in the new trailer for the Gods and Glory Content Pack! He's wearing armor! I swear to god, i wrote this up before the trailer reveal, so i hope that the Hollow Knight did actually train at the Colosseum. But i don't know.) Maybe these black streaks don't mean anything. Let's look at question 2. Why isn't anybody infected? Well, maybe it's similar to the case of the inhabitants of Dirtmouth. The infection isn't as strong on the surface of the world. This theory doesn't really make sense if we look at the Howling Cliffs. It's on the surface too, but the bugs out there are still infected. So that seems a little off. These bugs might just be strong enough to resist the infection. A few of the bugs in the audience can be found in the Forgotten Crossroads, which shows that they can resist the infection like Tiso and Quirrel can. But here's where things stop making any fucking sense. So when you're underneath the Colosseum, you can see a number of bugs that aren't infected. But then during the fight, they are infected as we can see from the orange particles that fly off of them. So yeah, that doesn't make any sense but this probably doesn't actually matter. But i think it shows that the mystery behind the Colloseum of Fools isn't as developed as some of the other stuff in the game. In fact, i've seen people argue that the entire area should be ignored in terms of lore. I wouldn't go and say anything like that, but if we ever did get the answer to this question, i don't think it will tie in very closely to the game's main story. So i'm willing to let this one slide. Yeah, sorry there isn't anything actually interesting in this block of text. I am such a cocktease.
But the Dung Defender and Hornet don't seem to have the orange goo when you hit them.Also not to be rude but "demonic cancer" Tht gave me a good laugh.
I like to believe that we weren't the only vessle to escape so the reason we always find the bodies of our brethren all over the place. They all tried to complete the kings wish and all died on their adventures. Which explains why hornet doesn't like us much
So I actually slowed down to read the Colosseum of Fools stuff and my explanation for why the fools aren’t infected is that whenever we actually see someone falling to the infection their usually in a trance or daze (Sly, Bretta, and Myla) the trance seems to be easily broken by having something else take their attention, the Colosseum seems to be a perfect place to have something constantly take your attention. As for the “infected” fighters, the Hunter mentions that people who are infected gain more physical strength plus the fighter npcs you meet seem to be in a Myla-like trance
Mister Bean Also I just realized that the fighters all pop out of these glowing orange chambers that go dark when they emerge? So it could be possible that these fighters are intentionally being exposed to the infection so that they can fight more strongly?
Y'all probably figured this out already but I think the "sad truth" of the hive is that the queen is long since dead but the bees still protect her and the hive as if she's alive
The statue of the Pale King, the White Lady and the Hollow Knight just shows how they ended up with a family relationship. The Pale King and the White Lady saw Hollow Knight as their son (they created him anyway) and the Knight ended up seeing them as their parents. The removed nail dialogue from the Hollow Knight ("Father?") seems to support this, as well the DLC scene where the King and Knight exchange looks. Maybe Hollow Knight was really hollow to begin with, but this relationship "corrupted" him to the point that he was no longer a pure vessel.
Ribas Daniel Actually the hollow knight was technically never perfect for the job, since in the voidheart cutscene where you are left behind the THK looks back at you, either in confusion or sadness. This brief moment is the only thing that is needed for THK to be considered impure, as he is shown to have emotions. Other proof of his emotions are his relationship with the king and of course his dialogue like you said.
Tidal Gaming not sure it’s the presence of emotions that’s the imperfection, rather than the presence of independence. I thought the latter, not the former. Either way the scene betrays the HK to have both.
The end of the Path of Pain confirms that the Pale King is the reason the Hollow Knight failed. The dude made himself a father figure to the Knight, but still went forward to trap Radiance in It, even though the Knight was tarnished with a thought. The White Lady further confirms this, "an idea instilled". The Hollow Knight looking back at the knight in the Voidheart/Birthplace cutscene could've just been reaction to stimulus, not emotion, I guess.
@@Rtmmms I personally interpreted that scene as proof the Pure Vessel truly was hollow. They willingly left behind their own sibling only sparing a glance, probably due to sound or instinct. It could be interpreted that they truly were hollow until the Pale King instilled a fatherly bond.
I believe that is actually from when she allows the player to dream nail the hollow knight. I always assumed she was saying “get through” as in, get through to the dream world and fight the radiance
I would have love if in beasts den when you got to herra an invincible boss would appear and you would have to run through the tight corridors to the thing with a seal, it would fit deepnest so much
@@legrandliseurtri7495 the Pale King could have wiped the Mantis' out. Of course they know that. What else could have persuaded them to guard the kingdom from Deepnest invaders? They claim to be keeping true an agreement made with the PK, and we know what their half of the bargain was. Not too far of a stretch to think that they trained Hornet as well.
I just realized something... In those sketches, there were mentions of a trilobite, right? And Trilobites blood, has a very high esteem for having regenerating properties, and in the sketches, there were a bunch of pipelines that were trailing out of the trilobite, so maybe the king of Hallownest was draining the trilobite of its blood, and that is what lifeblood is supposed to be?
The one problem with that is that you mention "the king of Hallownest was draining the trilobite of its blood," when the king of Hallownest (the Pale King) deemed Lifeblood a *"heresy",* and, by extension, deemed *Joni* (who, in her death, created *Joni's Blessing)* the *"kindly heretic".* The trilobite is found in Deepnest, a separate area (kingdom?) opposed to the Pale King, and specifically in the *Beast's Den* within the Distant Village located deep within Deepnest (lol). If use a spell on the trilobite, a *Seal of Binding* will appear over it. We have no idea what the purpose of this thing is (or was), but draining it's blood for Lifeblood is a possibility, seeing as there's nothing to disprove it. However, there's no evidence to support it either. It's an interesting idea, and I do think *Team Cherry* should address this. It's a possibility it'll be addressed in *Silksong,* and for that, I'm hyped (as if I wasn't already, heh).
@@bowserjjumetroid3645 The pale king had a project for soul though, maybe the trilobyte, excuse my spelling errors, maybe it had strong soul, cause soul is used to regenerate life. So it'd make sense
Actually I'm pretty glad the Forest of Bones was cut out. The lava just doesn't fit with the game's desolate atmosphere. Thanks for letting me know there were revealed sketches for the early development; I'm gonna search for then right now! :)
When the Nailsmith and Sheo are crafting wooden sculptures, Sheo is making the Dung defender and The Nailmaster is crafting the enemy in the White Palace.
The "3" queens hornets still works Just replace vespa with the sisters of battle (mantis lords) because hornet fight and has a weapon similarly to them
Regarding the Colosseum of Fools, the Godmaster DLC provides extra information. When you fight a forgotten champion called the Pale Lurker behind the Colosseum, she doesn't drop little infection particles when you hit her. And the Hunter's Journal states that she doesn't even know about the infection because she's trapped in her own madness. So now we know why the spectators in the Colosseum aren't infected: they were already mad before the Infection took over Hallownest, and they were "protected" of the infection by their madness, since the Infection can only target sane beings as we know thanks to the Pale Lurker's entry.
Radiance: "To steal the soul of weaker creatures is a blasphemy against the light!" Also Radiance: "Yo, wizard dude. Soul is the key to stopping the infection."
Watching a video from my favorite youtuber talking about my favorite game while making a rig in blender about the main character from said game so I can graduate my favorite class. Life is pretty gud
Oh shit, I was just rewatching this for the 5th time and I just realized I haven't commented on this yet (and I comment on every Hollow Knight video!) Love your videos Mossbag, you are one of the people who got me into making Hollow Knight content... well... "content". At least your videos are actually worth people's time. Just wanted to say that you are just Mobadis. I would comment something about the video but it will just be me listing all the things I loved here so... My favorite part 0:00 - 34:19
The picture of the dreamers with the 10 legs in the sketchbook might have been a boss like nosk where you would dream nail the dreamers and instead of going into there mind they would mutate into a boss, this could have also just turned into the nosk fight
I think that the radiance is connected to the crystals, because the cristal creatures can make LIGHT attacks, mala getan infected, and on the top of the crystal Peaks there is a Statue with the shape of the radiance, and then you encaunter the MOTH because you fall from the crystal peaks.
5:50 mossbag, remember when you said in your "hollow knight history" video that the knight's movement was inspired on megaman's. I guess that what the white cristal ring was for (charging your nail will shot out the vengeful spirit)
I just gotta say...you're the best guy to turn to for my lore cravings. Thanks for the extremely (I assume) hard work. You're videos are very enjoyable and informative. Please keep it up!
For me the most underwhelming part of Hollow Knight was Distant Village, I was so excited to face a spider boss there, especially after that bench trap scene. But there was nothing, the game just hands you Herrah on a plate of silver. Team Cherry shouldn't have shown us a trailer with exciting stuff just to get it cut in the end.
Damn, imagine the size of this game if they had hit all the stretch goals. Such a shame, I would've loved to explore more of the Abyss and Ants would've been cool as well.
Pay attention to the Gods and Glory trailer. After the word "God" flashes on screen, look at the face. Reminds me of that one uncut charm. The one that looked like Carefree Melody.
Nick Nirus and Boblesopp, if you look at the Radiance, you can see that the area above her face is clear: no feathers, no foliage, nothing. The curves above the eyes also peak at the top in the image, unlike the Radiance, where the edges go back down a little bit before ending. However, the cut charm is curved in an entirely different way than the shown picture, after a second comparison. But, due to this being cut content, it is still subject to change.
I really hope that, when Team Cherry stops updating the game with content (wasn't there a plan for paid DLC?), they will release the Lore Bible. I don't think I'll be able to live a joyful and fulfilling life without knowing TC full intentions with the Void, SOUL, The Black Kingdom, The Wasteland (and the world in which Hollownest resides for that matter), The Pale King, and especially that FUCKING STATUE BEHIND THE CHEST WITH THE FURY OF THE FALLEN CHARM GOD WHY THE FUCK IS THAT THERE? WAS THERE ANY PLAN TO USE THIS? WAS THIS "FALLEN" A HIGHER BEING?? WAS HE SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE FOREST OF BONES (along with the charm, that is)????? IT CERTAINLY SEEEMS SO, BUT WHY BOTHER ADDING THAT STATUE THAT PRETTY MUCH REEKS OF THE DEAD CREATURE THAT IS KEPT AS A TROPHY IN THE COLOSSEUM OF FOOLS WHICH IS ALSO LINKED IN DESIGN WITH THE GOD TAMER'S PET (WHICH, GOING BY THE DEV NOTE, IS A HIGHER BEING) YET THIS ONE HAS AN UNIQUE APPEARANCE (the red hue, a shit ton of those curly spikes) AND A NAME (even tho the name may just reference anyone that has died, or "fallen", but I have no idea how to call that creature in the background soooo)
11:21 How he got past this part is that, like most other NPCs, they can break some of the rules that we, the player, cannot accomplish until we follow these rules. Take, for example, the Void Barriers or whatever they are called. We cannot pass them until getting the shade cloak, but any other NPC can, such as Grimmchild and Cloth (because getting to Traitor Lord requires Shade Cloak) So, while this may seem improbable, being a nail smith, he could have easily gotten another nail and cut the vine that was holding the block up, he could have used said nail (if he decided to do this in the first place) to get past the platforming section, or, he could have used the block and threw it onto the spikes, thus skipping having to use the Crystal Heart to get over to the other platforms Or, since he is a nail smith, he could have made the nails for all the Nail Masters, and that meant he knew about what they were trying to accomplish in their life, from Sheo wanting to paint, Oro isolating himself from the rest of the world, and Mayo wanting to reach the top of Hallownest, and that he thought/believed that Sheo would help him find a new calling, which did happen in the end. Or, maybe I’m just trying to explain something that is for a good ending (Nail Smith finding a new calling) :D
I set the playback speed to 0.25 and read the entire 16:30 - 16:32 text box-- and I actually found your rant pretty interesting- I also think that the dark streaks around the dead character's eyes may relate to the void, possibly showing it as the cause of their death somehow(?)
The spider boss supposed to being in the game makes so much sense in the scene where you get stuck on the bench. The npcs all die when you get back there, you hear that roar, and also u wake back up stuck in web
good god the egg man randomly appearing in a video about hollow knight. very unexpected ive been binging your channel for a couple of hours and had to be like huh
30:30 - An Empty Vessel = Our 1st Character the unnamed knight A Strong Vessel = Stretch goal character 2 (Hornet) An Enlightened Vessel = Stretch goal Character 3
blundering obelisk: i was replaced by the moss charger entering the dreams of characters: i was replaced by dream bosses the hive: i now actually have my boss :D the void: i have not got any bosses remaining, but one of them was probably the statue that gives you void dash the void creature: i come out of characters but I'm also in the void not as the players but as their dead siblings
So the Radiance is a deity right? And the moths were the first bugs to be given minds by it, and when they found the wyrm and betrayed the Radiance, their fate was sealed to one day be returned to the Radiance and join it's consciousness being erased from existence. Basically the Radiance made bugs thinking, this'll be a fun science project, then went well those ungrateful little... and attempted to shut it down. Meanwhile I believe the void is the same kind of being, a rival deity of the Radiance who created the siblings as it's own science project, but his idea didn't give them minds. In the end the Radiance's bugs use the Void's "hollows" to help Void consume the Radiance. Now void is free to be edgy in peace, and bugs are free to worship bugs as they please.
32:08 When I heard "false one," I actually more thought of the Hollow Knight (due to not being truly hollow), which would imply that he feared HK would break out of the egg, and seek out the Pale King? That makes less sense than fearing Radiance would get to him, seeing as HK and PK seemed to have a bonding connection (from the end of the Path of Pain). But I guess it could be possible. Or at least possible in a previous version of the lore, that has since been removed.
Hey mossbag do you know there’s a boss in the hive now? It’s incredible they added content into the game that wasn’t there before and you listed it here in the video saying it was cut when really it should have been mentioned as existing content but really it was an honest mistake but as an avid fan of hollow knight I had to tells you this because the video didn’t mention it and it’s important that all the people who appreciate the game know that there is an area boss of the hive now, and spreading information like that is dangerous as it can lead to misinformation and this community is so wholesome I wouldn’t want to see it go up in flames because of the information being spread around being false it’s just a shame that this has to happen again it’s not like you’re lying I’m just sticking up for the game because as I said I’m an avid fan of this game by Team Cherry and they worked so hard to put a boss in the hive that was disregarded by the video which really should have been kept in and it is really a shame that no on e will know that there’s a tough enemy in The Hive region of the map in the game of hollow knight and Team Cherry would be disappointed as well as your parents plus all of the fans who wanted to know that there was a boss monster in the Bee Nest in the area plane in the magnum opus of Team Cherry called Hollow Knight
23:12 The dulled out dash master is still somewhat used. It's a replacement sprite for the kingsoul when the state of the charm is set to 4=>. The first state of the charm is 1 when you get the first half, the second state(2) is the complete kingsoul charm, and the final third stage is the void heart. Setting it to 4 will turn its sprite into the dulled out dash master sprite, it'll also be absolutely useless with some error text message stuff. Of course you can't really do this without third party software..... I think?
Follow me on the twitter @mossbag69. Some of the pictures in this video came out pretty blurry, but that was just me being bad at editing. You can find better quality pictures in a blog post I made. Check the link in the description, and be sure to check out the interviews I linked to as well, they're all pretty good! Also, thanks for 5k subscribers! Who are all you people?!?!
Don't worry, when Hollow Knight is released on Switch you are gonna have 500k and become the new Vaati of this game
How is 34 minutes short moss? Tis good time
I'm me, I like eating
I also like breathing
Oh man, I'm so sad the Bone Lava and Deeper Abyss is canceled QQ...
Real reason they dropped the forest of bones is because they realized bugs have no bones.
XDDDD
That’s a good point.
*LAUGH TRACK*
*SEINFIELD THEME PLAYS*
Oh yeah.... Team cherry should have done more research on bugs.
Forest of Exoskeletons doesnt sound that cool
"Something completely different."
> Starts making silksong
Looks like the forest of bones is gonna be in silksong, too!
@@myceliumnb he said completely different world
@@myceliumnb maybe cut locations from hollow knight will be added in silksong? who knows.
@@12345678abracadabra and forest of bones isn't in the og hollow Knight so it could totally be reused for silksong
Bless their souls
Don’t you dare think that I wouldn’t waste my time reading that huge block of text about the colosseum of fools
SAME! LOL XD
It's not that long
No cost too great
Waste? It's very interesting if you ask me. Also, I have a theory on why the bugs become infected right before fighting you. Possibly they were infected right before being let loose to make it harder for the knight, similar to how bulls are angered before bullfights. However, their entries in the hunter's journal says they were fighting for glory, which an infected bug wouldn't care about, so I'm not actually sure.
Same
Mossbag after seeing a few blurry pixels in the corner of a map:
Is this lore???
like the mouse cursor in pokemon swsh
yes it is
it always is........... the sad truth
FOUR FUCKING PIXELS
It is obviously depicting the war crimes Kermit committed.
@@KR_Kosmik Four dots in a piece of paper = Humanity almost went extinct.
6:55 Let's just take a moment to appreciate how adorable elderbug looks
RIGHT?! He's so cute!!
*younger* *bug*
youthbug
Notso elderbug
Elderbug but young
Team cherry must have watched this, saw his disappointment, and gave nosk his wings
Only for him to be an even bigger joke than before.
Nosk just can't catch a break, can he?
"Hey Vengefly King, mind if I copy your homework?"
"yeah bro, just dont make it obvious
bagle spelled wrong i like how u finished his joke a week later
someone had to do it
"Zooms into a blurry sketch and makes it even blurrier"
"This looks *exactly* like the hollow knight". Sure, if you say so
lol youtube compressed the image and made it unable to be seen, but i laughed at that too
RUclips destroys the quality of pencil sketches.
ENHANCE
@@1rouxlskaardstan963 i wanted to like this but then i realized it had 69 likes so
11:50 "Of course, the _real_ sad truth is that there is no boss encounter."
BZZZZZAH!
*Starts puking out OWN FUCKING CHILDREN/BROTHERS AND SISTERS/RELATIVES IN GENERAL*
Wyatt Vollmer You mean basically every boss in HK anyway?
Cheetahboy 0, I’d like to introduce you to gruzz mother
Mr. Memes The Hive Knight does it voluntarily
@@cheetahboy0127 cheese bites
“Creators worried it would be to much to handle”
Path of pain: “am I a joke to you?”
And then, the fifth pantheon with all 4 binds was born.
I think they meant by size. They said that testers felt overwhelmed by how big Hollow knight was (meaning map size). It's still huge, so, I think good choice and now they can use it for Silksong 🙂
idk man the path of pain was really easy for me. i have a harder time fighting random mobs than bosses and hard terrain lol
The Path of Pain was honestly a lot easier than I was expecting.
PoP was hard but definitely easier than I expected, I overestimated it
I still think that the dashmaster charm looks like sans...
Did you see Merg's play through?
Dash
Master is life
@@Jp-qq9ny Dashmaster + Sprintmaster = *N Y O O M*
@@missmillion3864 *E*
Sprintmaster looks like Papyrus
I cry every time I remember I had no knowledge of hollow knight, and couldn't kickstart it.
Me too mate
"Silksong will be free for kickstarter backers"
I thought it was originally going to be a free DLC pack? Whenst the fuck did you decide it was going to be paid regardless of whether you have Hollow Knight or not, Team Cherry?
@@caramelsgr They promised to their kickstarter backers that it'd be free, so they'd probably get a lot of backlash for not doing so; at least from the people that pledged. Most everyone else probably wouldn't care about SS being paid since they probably either wouldn't mind paying for a sequel or were unaware of SS entirely.
@@Rikri Ah, makes sense. Thanks.
I would have easily dumped 500 into its kickstarter if I knew of its existence
When forest of bones is cut and added in for Silksong
Pog moment
*2 years ago*
@@senpai2.054 holy shit how did I not realise that
@@dafunnyboi7936 yeah it's already been 2 years since they announced Silksong, kinda sad
@@GiammiTheBest very sad
16:31 the bugs in the Howling Cliffs - at least on the surface, not the tunnels inside - are uninfected. Dream nailing them reveals that they're fleeing the light - the infection - whereas infected creatures will often talk about killing and burning.
“Don’t want to be working on Hollow Knight for the next 4 years.”
Wellllllll...
This comment just gets better the longer it takes ahah
@@brosist6511fr
I am so unbelievably angry that not every single stretch goal for this game was met.
16:28 The full text, you're welcome:
There are two major questions surrounding the Colosseum of Fools. First, why is the Lord Fool dead? Second why aren't the members if the audience infected? Well, those are some pretty big questions. Let's take a step back for a moment. The Colosseum of Fools is located at Kingdom's Edge, as far out as the map allows us to go. So who knows if the Pale King even approved of this barbaric competition. Another interesting observation is that the entrance to the Colosseum looks like it might be the Wyrm Corpse that the Pale King left behind. So that means that the Wyrm was incredibly large if the other end reaches all the way to the Cast off Shell. Anyway, how did the Lord Fool die? Well just call me Frederick Herman Jones, because it looks like we have a mystery on our hands. Let's look at the evidence. First off, the Lord Fool has those black streaks across his eyes. But he also has them coming out of his back onto his frontward shell. These black streaks are really interesting to me. They are usually only found on bugs located in the Ancient Basin as well as the bug in the Queen's Garden who held the Love Key. The lighthouse keeper as well as a few of the Sibling Shells found in the Abyss also have them. The fact that the streaks are black and that most of the bugs that have them are near the Abyss always made me associate this feature with the Void. Of course, this might just be selective memory. Maybe there are bugs in other places higher up in the world that have these streaks. In fact, there are streaks on the mask tied up above the Lord Fool, which means these streams might just be a stylistic way of showing age. But if i'm right, and the Lord Fool is the lone exception, then this might be the clue we need. How would the Lord Fool get exposed to the void? Did the Hollow Knight train in the Colosseum? Okay, that's fucking stupid. (EDIT: Wait holy shit, look at the Hollow Knight in the new trailer for the Gods and Glory Content Pack! He's wearing armor! I swear to god, i wrote this up before the trailer reveal, so i hope that the Hollow Knight did actually train at the Colosseum. But i don't know.) Maybe these black streaks don't mean anything. Let's look at question 2. Why isn't anybody infected? Well, maybe it's similar to the case of the inhabitants of Dirtmouth. The infection isn't as strong on the surface of the world. This theory doesn't really make sense if we look at the Howling Cliffs. It's on the surface too, but the bugs out there are still infected. So that seems a little off. These bugs might just be strong enough to resist the infection. A few of the bugs in the audience can be found in the Forgotten Crossroads, which shows that they can resist the infection like Tiso and Quirrel can. But here's where things stop making any fucking sense. So when you're underneath the Colosseum, you can see a number of bugs that aren't infected. But then during the fight, they are infected as we can see from the orange particles that fly off of them. So yeah, that doesn't make any sense but this probably doesn't actually matter. But i think it shows that the mystery behind the Colloseum of Fools isn't as developed as some of the other stuff in the game. In fact, i've seen people argue that the entire area should be ignored in terms of lore. I wouldn't go and say anything like that, but if we ever did get the answer to this question, i don't think it will tie in very closely to the game's main story. So i'm willing to let this one slide. Yeah, sorry there isn't anything actually interesting in this block of text. I am such a cocktease.
Lakanus I would have given you the text myself if you would have just asked!!
But then what else would i do with my life
You have..a lot of freetime.
I envy how much time you have.
But the Dung Defender and Hornet don't seem to have the orange goo when you hit them.Also not to be rude but "demonic cancer" Tht gave me a good laugh.
It is cool to see that the flying Nosk (33:30) design was used in Godmaster (God and Glory) expansion!
Just noticed that at 14:03 The dialogue “Lord of Shades” proves that the lord of shades was something that existed before the godmaster dlc.
He only says that after I get the void heart
@@elonmoles7771 yes
I like to believe that we weren't the only vessle to escape so the reason we always find the bodies of our brethren all over the place. They all tried to complete the kings wish and all died on their adventures. Which explains why hornet doesn't like us much
14:22 its so funny listening to team cherry trying so hard to not accidentely reveal silk song before its reveal
"Zote DLC will never happen. Let's just accept it." NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Denial 4 life!
Dead Alkaline It happened. In fact his final fight is perhaps the most difficult unmodded boss fight in the game hahaha
Zote dlc should just have been hollow knight but you only have and can only have two masks
Well it is now, with the grey prince zote and the minigame in the hall of gods in the godmaster dlc
Doooooood
So I actually slowed down to read the Colosseum of Fools stuff and my explanation for why the fools aren’t infected is that whenever we actually see someone falling to the infection their usually in a trance or daze (Sly, Bretta, and Myla) the trance seems to be easily broken by having something else take their attention, the Colosseum seems to be a perfect place to have something constantly take your attention. As for the “infected” fighters, the Hunter mentions that people who are infected gain more physical strength plus the fighter npcs you meet seem to be in a Myla-like trance
Mister Bean Also I just realized that the fighters all pop out of these glowing orange chambers that go dark when they emerge? So it could be possible that these fighters are intentionally being exposed to the infection so that they can fight more strongly?
@@TheTacTy Wait until he learn about torches
it's probably similar to the traiter lord in which it's an intentional acceptance of the infection.
So why did Blundering Oberlisk get the axe?
Team Cherry needed to save some enemies for Silksong.
If you've seen Silksong trailer, the lava dungeon and giant mecha boss is there though
worldfilledwithmore true
and maybe the giant spider boss was cut to be placed in silk song because there's no way there will be just one giant boss in silk song
Oh, I love the fact that the "cut" version of Nosk is actually there now in the game as part of DLC!
Y'all probably figured this out already but I think the "sad truth" of the hive is that the queen is long since dead but the bees still protect her and the hive as if she's alive
The statue of the Pale King, the White Lady and the Hollow Knight just shows how they ended up with a family relationship. The Pale King and the White Lady saw Hollow Knight as their son (they created him anyway) and the Knight ended up seeing them as their parents. The removed nail dialogue from the Hollow Knight ("Father?") seems to support this, as well the DLC scene where the King and Knight exchange looks. Maybe Hollow Knight was really hollow to begin with, but this relationship "corrupted" him to the point that he was no longer a pure vessel.
Pale King mightve added the goal for them to be a vessel of the radiance. Since they had a goal none of the vessel ended up hollow.
Ribas Daniel Actually the hollow knight was technically never perfect for the job, since in the voidheart cutscene where you are left behind the THK looks back at you, either in confusion or sadness. This brief moment is the only thing that is needed for THK to be considered impure, as he is shown to have emotions. Other proof of his emotions are his relationship with the king and of course his dialogue like you said.
Tidal Gaming not sure it’s the presence of emotions that’s the imperfection, rather than the presence of independence. I thought the latter, not the former. Either way the scene betrays the HK to have both.
The end of the Path of Pain confirms that the Pale King is the reason the Hollow Knight failed. The dude made himself a father figure to the Knight, but still went forward to trap Radiance in It, even though the Knight was tarnished with a thought.
The White Lady further confirms this, "an idea instilled".
The Hollow Knight looking back at the knight in the Voidheart/Birthplace cutscene could've just been reaction to stimulus, not emotion, I guess.
@@Rtmmms
I personally interpreted that scene as proof the Pure Vessel truly was hollow. They willingly left behind their own sibling only sparing a glance, probably due to sound or instinct. It could be interpreted that they truly were hollow until the Pale King instilled a fatherly bond.
Intro:
Hornet: "Git Gud"
I was cougth offguard and had max volume on my phone
hearing this every time you die to the radiance really cut deep
i always heard it as "get through"
Minty Shiva it sound like GET DUHH
I believe that is actually from when she allows the player to dream nail the hollow knight.
I always assumed she was saying “get through” as in, get through to the dream world and fight the radiance
The moss prophet is called mosses
mosses
And each Sunday his followers gathered for a moss
And he preaches in a mossque
all of you get out
His moss followers gain mass each day
I would have love if in beasts den when you got to herra an invincible boss would appear and you would have to run through the tight corridors to the thing with a seal, it would fit deepnest so much
I think that's Hornet is child of five queens:
Born of the beast,
Raised by the lady
Trained by lords.
Why would the mantis lords train the pale king's child? They have no love for him.
Isn't she called hornet because it was originally intended for her to be trained by Vespa?
It can make sense since deepnest is so close to the mantis village
But then again, the mantis lords don't give a shit about the pale king
I don't think the bees would help to hornet
@@legrandliseurtri7495 the Pale King could have wiped the Mantis' out. Of course they know that. What else could have persuaded them to guard the kingdom from Deepnest invaders? They claim to be keeping true an agreement made with the PK, and we know what their half of the bargain was. Not too far of a stretch to think that they trained Hornet as well.
I just realized something...
In those sketches, there were mentions of a trilobite, right? And Trilobites blood, has a very high esteem for having regenerating properties, and in the sketches, there were a bunch of pipelines that were trailing out of the trilobite, so maybe the king of Hallownest was draining the trilobite of its blood, and that is what lifeblood is supposed to be?
Isaac Kim - Very interesting! You should go post that in the Hollow Knight Amino
And horseshoe crabs, a descendant of the trilobite, has BLUE blood!
The one problem with that is that you mention "the king of Hallownest was draining the trilobite of its blood," when the king of Hallownest (the Pale King) deemed Lifeblood a *"heresy",* and, by extension, deemed *Joni* (who, in her death, created *Joni's Blessing)* the *"kindly heretic".*
The trilobite is found in Deepnest, a separate area (kingdom?) opposed to the Pale King, and specifically in the *Beast's Den* within the Distant Village located deep within Deepnest (lol). If use a spell on the trilobite, a *Seal of Binding* will appear over it.
We have no idea what the purpose of this thing is (or was), but draining it's blood for Lifeblood is a possibility, seeing as there's nothing to disprove it. However, there's no evidence to support it either. It's an interesting idea, and I do think *Team Cherry* should address this. It's a possibility it'll be addressed in *Silksong,* and for that, I'm hyped (as if I wasn't already, heh).
@@bowserjjumetroid3645 The pale king had a project for soul though, maybe the trilobyte, excuse my spelling errors, maybe it had strong soul, cause soul is used to regenerate life. So it'd make sense
Well, probably not, but you are on the right track.
5:40
It simply mean that Pale King and Lady used to care for Hollow Knight like for their son
Actually I'm pretty glad the Forest of Bones was cut out. The lava just doesn't fit with the game's desolate atmosphere. Thanks for letting me know there were revealed sketches for the early development; I'm gonna search for then right now! :)
At least they added the lava back in into Silksong lol
I’d disagree with that, but okay.
Drya: “Your gonna die!”
White Lady: “No your gonna die.”
Drya: *dies*
Instead now it would be
Drya: "Your gonna die!"
White lady: *Uno Reverse Card*
Drya: " Uh oh..."
*Drya dies*
im sorry but you're*
@@chickenking1517 I'm*
When the Nailsmith and Sheo are crafting wooden sculptures, Sheo is making the Dung defender and The Nailmaster is crafting the enemy in the White Palace.
The enemies in white palace is called kingsmould and fun fact, dung defender is actually called ogrim
That's a pretty coll detail, that the only nailmaster with knowledge of the great knights is making one
33:31 And your wish is granted!
Wait a minute I never know Mossbag noticed me holy shit
@@snkr4240 lol
yes
*nailsmith at **11:32**:*
*"Draw me like one of your French bugs"*
The "3" queens hornets still works
Just replace vespa with the sisters of battle (mantis lords) because hornet fight and has a weapon similarly to them
11:37
The hive was described as being inhabited by a proud race.
AND CHRIS ROCK
Can we talk about how this legend puts up time stamps in every single one of his videos?
Regarding the Colosseum of Fools, the Godmaster DLC provides extra information. When you fight a forgotten champion called the Pale Lurker behind the Colosseum, she doesn't drop little infection particles when you hit her. And the Hunter's Journal states that she doesn't even know about the infection because she's trapped in her own madness. So now we know why the spectators in the Colosseum aren't infected: they were already mad before the Infection took over Hallownest, and they were "protected" of the infection by their madness, since the Infection can only target sane beings as we know thanks to the Pale Lurker's entry.
Zote vs Snail or we riot
*forest of bones is cut*
Silksong : *looks around the corner*
Silksong actually has a place that looks like holy grounds in the trailer
Silksong: psssst... Hollow knight 1...git gud
Im glad that silksong might utilize some cut content from hollow knight
Might get cut again ;)
what i would would say is:
Silksong: What am I to you? a rouch?!
Didn't know people thought Nosk's fight was lame. it was really hard for me. Flying nosk was a breeze in comparison
Mossbag : the hive is connected to kingdom’s edge in the final game , which is as far as you can get from deepnest
Crystal peak : am I a joke to you?
Hallownests crown specifically: am I joke to you?
Radiance: "To steal the soul of weaker creatures is a blasphemy against the light!"
Also Radiance: "Yo, wizard dude. Soul is the key to stopping the infection."
Maybe fire was replaced with void and the siblings are the ants, mindless alone, but together can take on gods?
Either an outstanding coincidence or it was all planned. Genious
Nah, he said that there was originally an entrance to the abyss from the forest of bone, so that stuff would’ve already existed
Huh, I was rewatching this and it's fucking cool to see that the "lame enemy" (the small bug with wings) you mention wil appear on Silksong
Mossbag: Most of the bosses in Hollow Knight were small
Silksong trailer: we don’t do that here
11:42 I died right there at the “Bee Movie” footage. Good joke man.
"an ancient and proud race"
@@jf1895 "and chris rock"
Dark Star me too! 😂😂😂 next bee movie/bugs life in next hollow knight is next game development
Still waiting for a movie
What do you mean bee movie that is just the hive in hollowknight
11:42 A city inhabited by an ancient and proud race...
and Chris Rock
Perfect timing- :D
Yes I know I’m late I’ll leave now-
Watching a video from my favorite youtuber talking about my favorite game while making a rig in blender about the main character from said game so I can graduate my favorite class.
Life is pretty gud
Foxzo *hornet yells* he got guuuud
“Dreamers can roar to summon minions”
Wait a minute...
Vengeful king can do that. 0_0
Fans: hoping for cut content to return*
Ari Gibson in the Reddit AMA: *allow me to introduce myself*
I need more of your theories and deep lore to temporarily forget about my crippling depression
Oh shit, I was just rewatching this for the 5th time and I just realized I haven't commented on this yet (and I comment on every Hollow Knight video!) Love your videos Mossbag, you are one of the people who got me into making Hollow Knight content... well... "content". At least your videos are actually worth people's time. Just wanted to say that you are just Mobadis.
I would comment something about the video but it will just be me listing all the things I loved here so...
My favorite part 0:00 - 34:19
Keith Redacted I really like your videos!!!
So im not the only one who is watching this video the 7th time
Lilith does stuff who cannot be?
no thats just my phones auto fix lol
8:53
An UNN-used NPC! Because Unn is a slug, and slugs are similar to snails! Get it!
The picture of the dreamers with the 10 legs in the sketchbook might have been a boss like nosk where you would dream nail the dreamers and instead of going into there mind they would mutate into a boss, this could have also just turned into the nosk fight
I think that the radiance is connected to the crystals, because the cristal creatures can make LIGHT attacks, mala getan infected, and on the top of the crystal Peaks there is a Statue with the shape of the radiance, and then you encaunter the MOTH because you fall from the crystal peaks.
5:50 mossbag, remember when you said in your "hollow knight history" video that the knight's movement was inspired on megaman's. I guess that what the white cristal ring was for (charging your nail will shot out the vengeful spirit)
I just gotta say...you're the best guy to turn to for my lore cravings. Thanks for the extremely (I assume) hard work. You're videos are very enjoyable and informative. Please keep it up!
10/10 video
This game along with Shovel Knight and OwlBoy are some of the best indie game ever imo.
This may be my favourite game of all time.
Housentax Gaming A 40 hour game that costs 15 euros, with awsome gameplay, music and atmosphere and you call it a "rip-off"?
Housentax Gaming Oh, ok. Im sorry for not getting it.
Play Celeste
Keith Vittorini
Done that but i still prefer these three over celeste.
Dust:An Elysian Tail is amazing too, kinda old now. Still great though.
Mossbag:
Sees winged Nosk sketch: HOLY SH*T IT HAS WINGS!
Me, a time traveller from 2020: Oh yeah, Godmaster Nosk!
MB: GodWHAT?!
For me the most underwhelming part of Hollow Knight was Distant Village, I was so excited to face a spider boss there, especially after that bench trap scene. But there was nothing, the game just hands you Herrah on a plate of silver.
Team Cherry shouldn't have shown us a trailer with exciting stuff just to get it cut in the end.
Damn, imagine the size of this game if they had hit all the stretch goals. Such a shame, I would've loved to explore more of the Abyss and Ants would've been cool as well.
Silksong: so I heard you wanted to see ants
Pay attention to the Gods and Glory trailer. After the word "God" flashes on screen, look at the face. Reminds me of that one uncut charm. The one that looked like Carefree Melody.
Both of htem look like Radiance, too.
The Carefree Melody-esque charm also looks quite a lot like the face of a Moss Knight.
Jasper L that’s the Radiance
Nick Nirus and Boblesopp, if you look at the Radiance, you can see that the area above her face is clear: no feathers, no foliage, nothing. The curves above the eyes also peak at the top in the image, unlike the Radiance, where the edges go back down a little bit before ending. However, the cut charm is curved in an entirely different way than the shown picture, after a second comparison. But, due to this being cut content, it is still subject to change.
Thats the absolute radiance
The hell I didn’t know northernlion was in a stream with team cherry
EYYY
I shall know go to every video you uploaded to comment that the hive has a boss now.
5:34 “the mandibles shown here” *6 pixels* (I know you did your best to clean it up moss, but its still funny to make fun of it)
when you about to study but then mossbag drops a new one and you physically can't anymore
I really hope that, when Team Cherry stops updating the game with content (wasn't there a plan for paid DLC?), they will release the Lore Bible. I don't think I'll be able to live a joyful and fulfilling life without knowing TC full intentions with the Void, SOUL, The Black Kingdom, The Wasteland (and the world in which Hollownest resides for that matter), The Pale King, and especially that FUCKING STATUE BEHIND THE CHEST WITH THE FURY OF THE FALLEN CHARM GOD WHY THE FUCK IS THAT THERE? WAS THERE ANY PLAN TO USE THIS? WAS THIS "FALLEN" A HIGHER BEING?? WAS HE SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE FOREST OF BONES (along with the charm, that is)????? IT CERTAINLY SEEEMS SO, BUT WHY BOTHER ADDING THAT STATUE THAT PRETTY MUCH REEKS OF THE DEAD CREATURE THAT IS KEPT AS A TROPHY IN THE COLOSSEUM OF FOOLS WHICH IS ALSO LINKED IN DESIGN WITH THE GOD TAMER'S PET (WHICH, GOING BY THE DEV NOTE, IS A HIGHER BEING) YET THIS ONE HAS AN UNIQUE APPEARANCE (the red hue, a shit ton of those curly spikes) AND A NAME (even tho the name may just reference anyone that has died, or "fallen", but I have no idea how to call that creature in the background soooo)
11:21
How he got past this part is that, like most other NPCs, they can break some of the rules that we, the player, cannot accomplish until we follow these rules.
Take, for example, the Void Barriers or whatever they are called. We cannot pass them until getting the shade cloak, but any other NPC can, such as Grimmchild and Cloth (because getting to Traitor Lord requires Shade Cloak)
So, while this may seem improbable, being a nail smith, he could have easily gotten another nail and cut the vine that was holding the block up, he could have used said nail (if he decided to do this in the first place) to get past the platforming section, or, he could have used the block and threw it onto the spikes, thus skipping having to use the Crystal Heart to get over to the other platforms
Or, since he is a nail smith, he could have made the nails for all the Nail Masters, and that meant he knew about what they were trying to accomplish in their life, from Sheo wanting to paint, Oro isolating himself from the rest of the world, and Mayo wanting to reach the top of Hallownest, and that he thought/believed that Sheo would help him find a new calling, which did happen in the end.
Or, maybe I’m just trying to explain something that is for a good ending (Nail Smith finding a new calling)
:D
RUclips is telling me that this is a music video and cannot be played in the background
I wish they kept the dream diving ability. It looked so cool.
The forest of bones is back!
The forest of bones seems like its been moved to silksong, one of the demo areas is strikingly similar to it
2019: *Forest of Bones is put in Silksong*
Hollow Knight: Am I a joke to you?
Hornet: git gud
8:03 * full-screen title card *
*THE GIANT ENEMY SPIDER*
( * orchestral vesion of the song plays as the boss theme * )
I set the playback speed to 0.25 and read the entire 16:30 - 16:32 text box-- and I actually found your rant pretty interesting- I also think that the dark streaks around the dead character's eyes may relate to the void, possibly showing it as the cause of their death somehow(?)
Everyone in 2019: *SILK SONG'S FORGE PART*
Everyone in 2021: uhh did team cherry die?
The Hive got a lot more developed, and there's a boss now :D
The spider boss supposed to being in the game makes so much sense in the scene where you get stuck on the bench. The npcs all die when you get back there, you hear that roar, and also u wake back up stuck in web
good god the egg man randomly appearing in a video about hollow knight. very unexpected
ive been binging your channel for a couple of hours and had to be like huh
That one unused charm with the shit ton of masks piled up on it is (i believe) used within one of the Fragile Charms? I could be wrong though.
It is. The charm is the fragile heart and the design also transfers over to unbreakable heart.
30:30
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An Empty Vessel = Our 1st Character the unnamed knight
A Strong Vessel = Stretch goal character 2 (Hornet)
An Enlightened Vessel = Stretch goal Character 3
Character 3 is zote obviously
Still, hornet is not a vessel
Hornet isn't void
blundering obelisk: i was replaced by the moss charger
entering the dreams of characters: i was replaced by dream bosses
the hive: i now actually have my boss :D
the void: i have not got any bosses remaining, but one of them was probably the statue that gives you void dash
the void creature: i come out of characters but I'm also in the void not as the players but as their dead siblings
This is odd watching this after Silksong’s reveal
“8/10, needs more Bretta” - official mossbag hollow knight review
oh man, that old wikia design brought back my memories of using that site for the Trove wiki years ago.
So the Radiance is a deity right? And the moths were the first bugs to be given minds by it, and when they found the wyrm and betrayed the Radiance, their fate was sealed to one day be returned to the Radiance and join it's consciousness being erased from existence. Basically the Radiance made bugs thinking, this'll be a fun science project, then went well those ungrateful little... and attempted to shut it down. Meanwhile I believe the void is the same kind of being, a rival deity of the Radiance who created the siblings as it's own science project, but his idea didn't give them minds. In the end the Radiance's bugs use the Void's "hollows" to help Void consume the Radiance. Now void is free to be edgy in peace, and bugs are free to worship bugs as they please.
When I saw back stepping mechanic I just fucking flipped my table and lost it
I wonder if they'll use Hornet's DLC as a gateway to a future sequel with her as the protagonist.
Oh wow, you were right
This fella is 10 steps ahead of all of us
What are the winning lottery numbers this week. Tell me, seer of the future
Holyyyyyyyy, are you a time traveler????, how did you know??!!?!?!?
Hello fellow duck un... i mean commenter. How was the time mac... i mean...
Nevermind
32:08 When I heard "false one," I actually more thought of the Hollow Knight (due to not being truly hollow), which would imply that he feared HK would break out of the egg, and seek out the Pale King? That makes less sense than fearing Radiance would get to him, seeing as HK and PK seemed to have a bonding connection (from the end of the Path of Pain). But I guess it could be possible. Or at least possible in a previous version of the lore, that has since been removed.
Winged Nosk seems sick until you realize his hit box is shaped like a skyscraper.
Hey mossbag do you know there’s a boss in the hive now? It’s incredible they added content into the game that wasn’t there before and you listed it here in the video saying it was cut when really it should have been mentioned as existing content but really it was an honest mistake but as an avid fan of hollow knight I had to tells you this because the video didn’t mention it and it’s important that all the people who appreciate the game know that there is an area boss of the hive now, and spreading information like that is dangerous as it can lead to misinformation and this community is so wholesome I wouldn’t want to see it go up in flames because of the information being spread around being false it’s just a shame that this has to happen again it’s not like you’re lying I’m just sticking up for the game because as I said I’m an avid fan of this game by Team Cherry and they worked so hard to put a boss in the hive that was disregarded by the video which really should have been kept in and it is really a shame that no on e will know that there’s a tough enemy in The Hive region of the map in the game of hollow knight and Team Cherry would be disappointed as well as your parents plus all of the fans who wanted to know that there was a boss monster in the Bee Nest in the area plane in the magnum opus of Team Cherry called Hollow Knight
Epic
Didn't that get added... after this video was made
don’t ask questions and you won’t get hurt.
@@rainestorme25 It's a joke.
Yea no I just read that huge block of text about the colosseum of fools not reading this
18:14 "maze like area" like every other area is not already a maze
23:12 The dulled out dash master is still somewhat used. It's a replacement sprite for the kingsoul when the state of the charm is set to 4=>. The first state of the charm is 1 when you get the first half, the second state(2) is the complete kingsoul charm, and the final third stage is the void heart. Setting it to 4 will turn its sprite into the dulled out dash master sprite, it'll also be absolutely useless with some error text message stuff. Of course you can't really do this without third party software..... I think?
The forest of bones might be returning in silk song actually!!
Little did he know, nosk would end up getting wings...