Is the Monoprice Mini Delta your first 3d printer?
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- Опубликовано: 16 июл 2024
- Looking for your first 3d printer or want to learn about low-end printers suitable for home then you will find this video very interesting.
If your new 3d printer is for yourself, for a child, for your parents this video is an excellent place to start. In the video, I review some of the criteria I am looking for while taking you step by step thru unboxing, assembling, and setting up the Monoprice Mini Delta 3d printer.
I also explain why for many people new to 3d printing I recommend the Monoprice Select Mini instead of the Monoprice Mini Delta.
In this video, I mention a web site dedicated to MP Mini Delta users. Here is the link:
www.mpminidelta.com/
I also shared that l used specific gcode at the beginning of each print that was different from the start of print gcode listed in the manual. Here is the gcode I used and here is a link to additional instructions:
www.mpminidelta.com/slicers/cura
*** IMPORTANT** You must remove the semi-colon from one of the lines that starts with ";M92" depending on your printer firmware version. See the website above for additional information. You also need to adjust the line that starts with "G29 P4 Z0.24 ; Auto-level". Change the 0.30 to a smaller number if your prints are not sticking and a bigger number if your print head is hitting the bed.
; This code was written by Brian Kurtz and published on the web
; Calibration part starts here
;M92 X57.14 Y57.14 Z57.14 ; If running V37-V41 or V45, uncomment this line and delete the one below
M92 X114.28 Y114.28 Z114.28 ; If running V43 or V44, uncomment this line and delete the one above
M666 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Add your endstop values here after calibration
M665 L120.80 R61.70 ; Sets default Delta Radius (change when calibrating)
M301 P45.00 I0.07 D1000 ; Hot end settings
M304 P100 I0 D0 ; Bed heater settings
M500 ; Save settings
; Calibration part ends here
G90 ; switch to absolute positioning
G92 E0 ; reset extrusion distance
G1 E20 F200 ; purge 20mm of filament to prime nozzle.
G92 E0 ; reset extrusion distance
G4 S5 ; Pause for 5 seconds to allow time for removing extruded filament
G28 ; start from home position
G1 E-6 F900 ; retract 6mm of filament before starting the bed leveling process
G92 E0 ; reset extrusion distance
G4 S5 ; pause for 5 seconds to allow time for removing extruded filament
G29 P4 Z0.30 ; Auto-level -- ADJUST Z higher or lower to set first layer height. Start with 0.02 adjustments.
G1 Z30 ; raise Z 30mm to prepare for priming the nozzle
G1 E5 F200 ; extrude 5mm of filament to help prime the nozzle just before the start of the print
G92 E0 ; reset extrusion distance
G4 S10 ; pause for 5 seconds to allow time for cleaning the nozzle and build plate if needed
Thanks for watching and let's continue to learn new things together.
Irv
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Thanks for the honest review. I now know what I would be getting if I bought the printer so this helps out a great deal. I am learning more about 3D printers from you and I was unaware of many things until I started watching your tutorials.
Thank you so much for setting us up for success!!
Thanks for taking the time to make this video. Very helpful!
You may find the "3d Printing Demystified" playlist helpful if you are just getting started with 3d printing. Here is a link to it ruclips.net/p/PLxa9m2nC6N93YM2e7gfXR40i2cANgSR4e
It's still such a nice printer on paper with auto bed leveling and a heated bed. A shame most of these low cost machines are more hobby than tool but to be fair no one should buy a $150 machine and expect it to offer the same beginner experience as a $1000 machine. I think beginner 3D printing needs to be turned on its head from ultra cheap to something more premium leaving these cheaper machines for the family tinkerer and hobby builders. After all, most beginners barely understand the terminology let alone engineering fixes.
My favorite thing about this mini delta is that it can really be modded with a flexible print bed and battery to really excel at portable printing. One could even add a silent board and actual touch screen while they are at it with some fun rgb for show. I could have a lot of fun printing on a road trip or between work, school, and home. Great review to watch!
Interesting idea.
This was my first 3d printer I got a year ago. It printed the test print perfectly but as soon as I tried to print something else it dug into the bed. I was scared to use it again and joined a couple of Facebook groups. I tuned the bands, replaced the bed with a mirror, learned the basics of gcode and how to properly level it and yet here I am still scared to turn it on again 🤷
After many hours working with the Mini Delta, I have been unable to obtain consistant results. I cannot recommend this printer and would recommend the Monoprice Select Mini or Creality Ender 3 (pro) instead.
To ensure your nozzle does not hit the print bed you need to make a change to the Cura, Machine Settings, Start G-Code. You will see a line that looks similar to this "G29 P4 Z0.04 ; Auto-level ". The key is to look for the G29 command. In the stock configuration, I believe this is set to "G29 P4 Z0.28 ; Auto-level ".
The number 0.28 in the original, 0.04 in my settings is the Z (vertical offset). In YOU CASE you may need to make this a bigger number which will raise the print head farther away from the print bed after the G29 auto bed leveling calibration. In my case I needed to move the print head down, closer, to get my prints to stick.
Even with this adjusting, I was only able to get prints to stick if I used blue painters tape. I even tried replacing the print bed with glass. My printer still was unreliable.
I hope this helps, but at this point, I cannot recommend this printer.
You need any help?
The printer is garbage, never had not one successful prints even with custom g codes for it specifically. Woke up to a 8hr print job and the nozzle gummed up and decided to make one giant ball of plastic. In the process of doing this it shorted out the delta and it doesn't turn on anymore.
This came up in my RUclips recommendations today. I watched it two and a half years ago when I was buying my first 3D printer. I had looked at both the MP Select Mini and this, and pretty much decided on this one. Based on this video I re-evaluated and ordered the Select Mini over the Mini Delta. A year later I also bought the Mini Delta.
I have to disagree. My initial experience with the Select Mini was a lot like what you described for the Delta, right down to the problems you had with Cura. The Delta was much more straightforward, and required far less fiddling to work.
Honestly, if someone asked me which to buy based on my experience with both, I would say the Delta, hands down.
I also forsee future problems with the cantilevered gantry on the Select Mini. At this point I simply wouldn't buy a cantilevered gantry.
Interesting review
Thanks for sharing :-)
Very helpful. Thanks!
Not a big fan of the mini delta. But I really like the mp select mini.
Good review and some great insights about the Mini Delta for new users. The Original Mini was my first 3D printer and I agree it was pretty easy to just use. Personally, I actually still use the older version of Cura for my Mini. Just seems to work well.
A note about the similarity of the print bed sizes. Yes, they are very similar. The mini being 120x120x120 and the delta being 110 round by 120 high. But a point to remember is that a square 120 is more than just a bit larger than a round 110. You lose a lot not having corners. Also, a delta printer print, because of the printer arms, is more conical, so that 110 will get smaller as the print gets taller. Not sure how much of a difference that makes with this one.
That said, I do love the way Delta printers print. I might look for a used Mini Delta to sit on my desk. :-)
Thanks for the comment. I own a Mini Delta but do not use it because it is just to difficult to get consistent prints. In particular the bed leveling is not reliable.
Great, "measured" review.
thanks for the vid
I know that you have the Ender 5, and for the advantages it seems to be a much better printer. I will agree that it is not as portable, and almost twice the price, but so much more flexible and the print bed is fairly large. there is a huge community for upgrades and support for the Creality line. Thanks for your videos.
I really enjoy my Ender 5. I have a number if videos on the channel about upgrades to the Ender 5. Thanks for commenting.
This was my first 3D printer. I bought some magnetic print bed material and cut it to size because the prints were so hard to remove. It worked ok but I ran out of patience with it pretty quickly due to it's very small print volume. When the Ender 3 came out, I bought one of those (for about the same price) and have been much happier with it. I would really limit the audience for this printer to really small kids, but even then it can be difficult to use sometimes and the improvement you get with the Ender 3 would make me really question if this printer is worth it.
Very valid points. I do wish the Ender 3 was available fully assembled.
The latest Cura, v4.8, includes a profile for the MP Mini Delta.
Yeah. This review is out of date now.
Can you make a ultimaker cura settings video for this 3D printer I can’t find one anywhere
If your looking for an entry level printer for users that are not as technology minded. I would suggest the Flashforge Finder. They have some at a local maker space for new people to 3D printing to use and they are pretty simple to get started with. And the Flash print slicer software has 2 modes a basic and expert. In basic mode a new user can figure it out with little effort. The Mini Deleta is a good printer, but you need to know how to adjust the machine when it doesn't work, like with most printers.
Thanks for the suggestion. I will take a look. My first impression was that the Flashforge printers are a bit more expensive and do not support standard size filament reels.
@@MakeWithTech They are only $299.00 At amazon & B&H in USA. My oringal Printrbot wooden 3D printer witch only printed 100mm sqaure. And had to be built by end user, was more than that this price. Also you can use standard size filament reels. You just need an external filiment holder. They can be printed on this printer, many free designs at Thingaverse. If you desire ease of use, you have to pay a little more than the under $200 price point.
did you warm it up the first time
Another great video and thanks for sharing. My question is, should the print be loose it's adhesion, what would be the best thing to use so that the print sticks to the print bed? What would you suggest?
First make sure your print bed is level and adjust the z offset. Then use Magigoo. Great stuff.
Hi there, you never mention the actual print volume. I was wondering what it is? Thanks. I could just Google it. But it would've been good if you had mentioned it, also while I'm on a roll it would have been nice to see it in action also.
Your correct. 110 round by 120 high.
This was my first 3D printer. But I definitely won't recommend this for a new users who don't want to get their hands dirty. Mine didn't come with Filament! It needs mods to pix the bed clips.
Can u replace the stock nozzle with a .25mm nozzle from e3d?
Yes you can replace the nozzle. Just made sure it has the same size threads. E3D make nozzle for a number of hot ends.
My parents got me one of these but it never came with filament
Can I essentially remove the filament holder and put in a stylus for touchscreen tapping on mobile apps? Thanks
Not sure I understand the question?
DrVax for example if I want to automate some tasks on my touchscreen phone, could I remove the tool that spits out the filament, and replace it with a stylus tool that can simulate a human finger on my touch screen phone?
That way I can program the movements of the machine to simply tap my touchscreen phone? Kinda far off the topic but I see multiple uses!
Probably not. There are better ways to accomplish automating tasks on a phone or computer by using apps on the phone such as Apple’s “shortcuts” or macro programs such as “Robotask” on a PC.
I'm debating those two... the mini delta and the select mini, so my kids can print things and not hover over my Ender 5. :)
Choose mini delta
The plastic did not come out during preheat
In the end, it seems that even though a lot of these sub-$200 printers are a decent value, it also seems to me that they all need some fiddling and mods to get them to print well. Some might say that maybe for this reason, a beginner should stay away from sub-$200 printers. Although I believe that this might be true of some beginners, I also think that more tech-savvy beginners could go online and join a Facebook user group for whatever printer they get, and get them running well with help from the community.
2 questions,1st how do you take the sd card to the pc, and 2nd I’ve never used a printer so this isn’t a vid that helped me too much
You can find a variety of SD card adapters at places like Amazon that plug into an USB port on your computer. If you are completely new to technology such as ink jet printers I might recommend that Astroprint, which is web based 3d printer software and runs on Windows, Mac and Chromebooks might be a good place for you to start.
my 3d printer did not come with any filament
Hello friend, could you help me? What happens is that they gave me that mini printer but the page where I download some files is no longer available.
Could you send me your files so I can use it please 🙏
“i like the handle on the top”
@@AJA_974 nice
Will this unit run PETG?
Unlikely. The print bed will not get hot enough. You can print PETG on the Select Mini.
can I use 3 in one oil on this printer?
Depends where. Most manufacturers suggest silicon lubricants.
@@MakeWithTech Also the little yellow tape around the heating element is all black now should I remove it?
FYI, the print bed is removable.
Yes and no. It is connected by wires to the power supply. Because it is connected by wire and rigid it is still difficult to remove prints.
Hello. This video was very helpful for my 3d printer. The auto00.g file printed very good. But when I go to print something with Cura, it doesn't really work. It goes through part of the 1st layer, but then it get's pulled up, and doesn't stick. I can put pictures, but anything I try isn't working.
I'm using PETG and Cura 4.3.0. The first thing, is that it sets the bed temperature automatically to 75. Which is weird because it only let's me manually put it to 60. The g-codes I'm using are the recommended ones from www.mpminidelta.com
Please help, It's very frustrating because it keeps getting pulled up. :(
Getting prints to stick on the MP Mini Delta is a real problem. I ultimately gave up and put this printer in a closet. On the other hnf some users love this printer. I think it comes down to quality control and some prints ship in better shape than other.
P.S. I have started a new discussion forum at forum.drvax.com where we can all have more elaborate discussions and share pictures on our prints and printers. Check it out.
@@MakeWithTech Thank you! I actually just figured out this morning, that I needed to level the bed. I leveled it, and cleaned it with Isopropyl, and it works really nice. Thank you for making these videos, they're very helpful for someone like me who's new to printing. :)
@@MakeWithTech Hi again. I figured out that I didn't actually level the bed. I thought I did, but I didn't. The printer was working really good, and I printed alot. but eventually, the print bed tape got dirty and cut and a bunch of stuff. So I removed it and put new tape on. But now when I go to print, the print bed is too high, and I don't know how to lower it. Please help.
Nope, the CR-10 S5.
Or, you could use the WiFi...
Unfortunately the WiFi does not work well. I will be publishing a new video on the delta mini in the next couple of weeks.
Here is an update on my comment from yesterday. I really want to love this printer. Specifically I want to be able to recommend it to everyday non-technical folks and tell them "Take it out of the box, connect it with a USB cable to your computer, turn it on, print".
You would be surprised at how many people have trouble copying files from their hard driver to an sdcard, etc.
I am trying to get that to work with MatterHacker but while connecting works great the slicer may not be good enough. If I have to tell them to slice the model in cura and then print it from MatterHacker I am not sure this is easy enough. I have tried Astroprint but the USB connections from Astroprint desktop are not reliable. Cura's usb support has been broken in current versions for a while.
So I am going to keep trying --- time will tell...
I'm on my 3rd one of these in 6 months. Cheap, but certainly not built to last.
It's a shame because the prints are better than the ones on some of my £700+ 3D printers.
Yep. True. Sometimes more expensive equipment is more expensive because the mean time to failure is longer.
Thanks for informative review. I've had mine for 2 weeks. that community guide saved me! I'm having issues with auto bed level, the community page has a calibration tutorial, but I'm new to this and confused, Can you make a video explaining? thanks DrVax! mpminidelta.com/g29
www.reddit.com/r/mpminidelta/comments/bzm1s2/updated_mpmd_calibration_guide_and_faq/
I'll add it to the list. Thanks for suggestion it. Overall I am not spending much time on the Mini Delta because I found it was difficult to obtain consistent results with it. I think the Monoprice Select Mini is a much better choice.
@@MakeWithTech I saw your video about this printer after I already had it! Wish I had known earlier.. still having fun with this printer.
I bet you vaccinated your children.
Good video also.
Thats so typical....cheap bargain you got there ikey mo!
I am not a fan if this printer. For slightly more you can get a fully assembled monoprice select mini or a creality ender 3 as a kit.
@@MakeWithTech the ender 3 pro....for sure is better just for the mains power upgrade alone.....the delta requires soooo many upgrades....build plate etc its better to just buy the ender 3 pro
The printer is garbage, never had not one successful prints even with custom g codes for it specifically. Woke up to a 8hr print job and the nozzle gummed up and decided to make one giant ball of plastic. In the process of doing this it shorted out the delta and it doesn't turn on anymore.
I also have given up on this printer. It now sits under the workbench.
@@MakeWithTech it printed one decent print, tried again and failed. Did everything the same, and nope. Could never get it dialed in right. The only successful print I made was a bathroom fan knob I 3d modeled to look like a roll of toilet paper. Still works today, n thats a $150 fan knob now.
I had a lot of trouble with both bed adhesion and quality.
@@MakeWithTech sob, the bed adhesion is what killed my delta, let it go overnight for an 8 hr print and it was just a gummed up ball of plastic, it shorted the wires to the fan and I believe the whole unit as well. Do you know where I can part it?
Conclusion, get rid of the Mac
I love my Mac. :-)