Why Cecil Stedman is a Better Nick Fury than Nick Fury
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Whether you're an Invincible enthusiast, a dedicated comic book follower, or simply curious about what sets Cecil Stedman apart from Nick Fury, this video is a must-watch. Join us on this exhilarating journey as we uncover the compelling reasons why Cecil Stedman reigns supreme and triumphs over Nick Fury in the superhero realm
Another thing you forgot to mention that is so good about Cecil is that he is not just a pure, morally good character. He is fully willing to do some awful things in order to protect Earth, such as work with D.A. Sinclair, a criminal who tortured multiple innocents for his experiments, or send Damien Darkblood back to the underworld to prevent Omni-Man from realizing that they are onto him. This ambiguity is part of what makes him so compelling.
Hes basically the embodiement of US Government Machiavellianism. "Ends justify the means" type shit.
Hes the shadiest guy in the series, but one of the few you can count on tto make the right decision.
@@honkhonk8009well sometimes hiring crimnals is good. I dont know his name or the postion, but one of the best hackers ending up becoming the head of a bureaucracy
And yet that is not all that he is. By the end of the show, he hides Debbie and Mark's identities to protect them from the public for what Nolan did. He even comforts Debbie when she sees Mark beaten to a pulp.
@@mcgclockhe’s a shady mf but he still has a morally grey human side. Like how he said he felt sick talking to D.A. Sinclair and him comforting Debbie. He isn’t good but he’s definitely not bad either, which is why he’s so great.
@@mcgclockwhile those are good things.
They also have meaning behind them, and not just examples of him being a good guy.
Ensuring that mark's identity is not revealed, and that debbie is safe.
Ensures, at least a LITTLE bit, that mark wouldn't go off the deep end like his dad, and they have another omniman incident on their hands, even of mark is easier to manege and take down.
Even debbie says so in the (third? Fourth?) Episode of season two, that the reason he did and is doing what he is doing to help them is so he can keep mark on a leash, which she doesn't like.
Cecil Stedman has the advantage of appearing exclusively in a single comic book series and its animated adaptation. That's allowed him to remain consistent across his existence, so we can admire his brilliance and resourcefulness without having to remember the pratfalls inept writers felt like they needed to subject him to.
That said, I like Cecil more even writing off the various terrible interpretations of Nick Fury. Nick always felt like he wanted to be out pounding heads and shooting bad guys or whatever, however good he may have been at running SHIELD. Cecil is at home leading the GDA - it's not just where he is most useful, it's where he wants to be. Running SHIELD is Nick Fury's job and his duty - running the GDA is Cecil's entire life's purpose.
Exactly that. Fury(comic) was always a hands-on field guy, which for many things was better and with how he managed SHIELD it puts in perspective his capacity to multitask... but because of that he failed the big picture many times because he got too close and forgot to have perspective.
Cecil will not shy away of putting himself in danger, but he knows what he is does best, he has extensive field experience and knows the many sides of many decisions and ways of thinking, he does fail and make wrong calls, but he does keep things running smoothly.
I like both character, they are smart badasses that have a good track record but that feel human with their failings, i may like Cecil more exactly because what you said, he appears in only one series and is kept consistent, but they still are very good "the guy in charge" arhectype examples.
You're wrong, though.
Cecil originally appeared in Brit.
Good points however, A team or several different writers can do great job with the character if they get the character right. The thing is Cecil has been consistent despite appearing in two series and Nick Fury used to be consistent then got screwed over by the MCU and terrible current writers that don't know what made him badass in the first place. I love Cecil because he is his own character but also what current and modern Nick Fury should have been. Nick seriously needs his classic interpretations back and needs to step up his game.
FYI Cecil already knew in the comic just prior to meeting him that Nolan was lying and the whole Viltrumite world betterment committee was BS but decided on the adage to keep your enimies close.
Well thats not entirely true, he didnt trust him and figured he's lying but he didnt know his goals. He thought that as long as he's defending Earth, the reasons dont matter. They couldnt defeat him anyway.
Yeah, Stedman is literally the best in the show.
I think he shows signs of actual serious stupidity in the comics. Not often, but he does.
You know, I was gonna respond to this and say "I dunno about stupidity, but probably more arrogance" but I thought about it and like, at a certain point you really can't call it anything but stupidity 😅
To be fair comics and earth mightiest avengers have shown fury to be all time better. MCU started good but ruined him in his series
Yea. MCU went from Iron Man being a defence contractor and blowing up terrorists, to a litteral kids show.
It went from a movie that was officially considered an icon of national culture, to an icon of soy-slop.
Its funny cus the writers back then based him off Elon Musk. Writers now wouldnt dream of doing the same shit.
@@honkhonk8009 because elon back then was cool guy now unfortunately he sucks and I'm pretty sure they based him of Tony Stark and blended him with RDJ
The comics are where authors who love the material play with their imagination. The MCU is now where authors go to make money or something else. It's at least like that to me.
@@notaulgoodman9732 lol maybe before but did you forget who is Nightcrawler parents now marvel retcon it or Magento
@@honkhonk8009I think you missed the point of the first movie entirely buddy.
The humanity of Fury mixed with the ruthless pragmatism of Waller. That is Cecil Steadman.
Cecil's main advantage , unlike Nick Fury and most other Marvel characters, is that he was ultimately written by a singular writer and appears in only one comic book series with a consistent long running narrative.
Even the show is literally just adapting the comic, only changing certain things that felt superficial or that negatively affected the story and/or pacing, all of which is also supervised by Invincible's said original writer.
Nick Fury just doesn't have that luxury, even if we just look at the MCU, who knows just how many writers the character has bounced between. Eventually , as we see, there's going to be cases where they legit don't know what they're doing or what to do with his character as a whole.
cecil is what nick fruity shouldve been
What he was
Remember when Nick had iron man, cap, hulk and Thor under his thumb until around midway before age of ultron
LOL FRUITY!!
Cecil literally was the reason conquest came back bro was a joke in the comics
Nick Fury + Amanda Waller + Joe Biden + Teleportation ≈ Cecil Stedman.
@@MB-eh2kpno he wasn’t Mark was,he got his ass beat half to death and wanted revenge on Mark Cecil ain’t like that
Kevin Feige better be taking notes
Cecil is a good guy in bad guy clothing. He’d be the big bad of so many other stories.
I like your video a ton. It just seems kind of biased. You gave so many awesome examples as to how cecil is a badass. You never said how nick fury is a badass or never gave any examples of what he's done/does.
I appreciate each and everyone of you, this is my first video to hit 10k,
Thank you for the engagement, views and the support 💯💯💯
@@CuriosityThread That's a nonsensical response to a legitimate criticism.
@@CuriosityThread bro does not give a shit apparently
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Fury has not been the same since Captain Marvel. Fact
They made him look like a clown and a loser. That cat scratch was a curse for his character.
Nick was never the same after how he got his scar in captain marvel, it did irreparable damage to his character n mystique
Well Cecil is actually doing his job n is a well built out character. Nick fury is just there n barely fleshed out
Having only seen him in animated, what i like most about Cecil is how he remains someone who cares, after lying, manipulating, looking and working with evil, he remains a centered focused force for good, the abyss stared back at him and he didn't even flinch.
Show Cecil is more empathetic than comic Cecil. He was kind of an ass in the comic. Still 'for the greater good' type of character but he doesn't even pop up on page until AFTER Nolan reveals himself, beats Mark, and leaves so he has no humanizing scenes before.
@@RaxusXeronos would you say the animated show has lost something to the written counterpart?
@@rabumalal I feel that animated Cecil is better than comic Cecil. The animated series fleshes him out a bit more. Makes him seem more proactive too, as the scenes where they try to slow Nolan down aren't in the comic either, and the 'fight' between them was a badass moment for Cecil even if it only preoccupied Nolan for a couple minutes.
I agree, Thank you for the comment💯
Let's be honest. If marvel u inverse was a bit more serious with Characters like Nick Fury we would have Cecil. I really see Invincible as DC, but in marvel colours with a bit of hope and shenanigans
At the end of this video I was asking myself whether I had actually listened to anything of substance and honestly I don't think I did. This is what you get with AI writing. A word salad that is technically correct, probably-- but with no.... perspective, no actual personal opinion. This isn't an analysis, no specific moments were brought up, just general statements about the characters that are ostensibly true.
You think an AI wrote this?
The guy that delivers my mail is a better nick fury than nick fury at this point. What the hell have they done to samuel L jacksons character?
I like him because he is purely pragmatic. He has a human opinion of his own methods, but that doesn't stop him from doing the most pragmatic act at any point.
Bro sounds like hes reading a chat gpt script 💀💀💀
drink every time he says resources in this video
Another thing that makes Cecil work as a character is that he's shown making morally grey decisions, while Fury is mostly implied at making said decisions.
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You sure your fav character isn’t Robot?
the very fact Nick fury didnt realize hydra agents were all over the place shows his incompetency.
This is the best comment on this video💯💯
I like to think that somtimes the workers are mad when he teleports cause its 5 milion dollars expensive
Cecil is a more realistic character, whereas Nick used to be even more fun to see on-screen imo… but given how hard Marvel fell off, there’s no comparison anymore
I feel comparing Invincible characters with Marvel or DC characters is kind of unfair since they are kind of the same but being part of an epic overarching story where their actions actually matters and their character is consistant is enough to make them way more well-rounded characters than any of the classic comicbook characters constantly relaunched, rewritten, retconned, etc.
Cold calculated and collected love his adaption for the show
He is a G
In the comics, cecil knew omni-man is lying about where he comes from and what his intentions are from the very beginning
cecil is also petty asf
Whereas Nick fury is playing a visual novel Cecil is playing XCOM
This is so interesting as a reccomendation
Thank you i appreciate that
Wish they didn't give a bald mullet
Why Cecil is a better "Nick Fury" than "modern day" Nick Fury
What do you guys think?
Cecil is definately more entertaining
I agree💥💥💥💯💯💯
😂😂😂 the intro cracked me up😂😂😂
😂😂😂 i have my own strategy😂😂😂😂
I nick more
I don't understand how you continued to mispronounce Cecil's last name. It's Stedman, not Stredman. No R. I mean you spelled it right for the video's title, so what's up? Otherwise, good video.
Thank you
Nick fury vs Amanda Waller Vs Cecil Steadmen
Who gonno Win?
Quite a tough one to be honest.
Assuming they have their best equipment at their disposal Stedman solos easily
Hand to hand probably Amanda cause fury is old and Stedman is also old
@@polakrodak8538yeah, but in many iterations Amanda is also obese. Hand to hand I'd say Fury wins, in the comics I'm pretty sure he's a super soldier of some kind.
@@fm_0523 not in his current state
In a fight, Fury. Dude has super solider serum.
how is it that you get thousands of views and thousands of likes, but you don't even have 100 subscribers?
Nick fury is superior in every way to cecil, mcu being the only exception
No
Did you write this video with Chatgpt??? Reads like something written by AI
i wrote it myself
was this written by an ai
Nick Fury is not Nick Fury anymore. With secret invasion and Captain Marvel taking good things away from the character being as to why.
MCU Nick fury to be precise
Because Nick Fury turned out to be sammy jackson
What do you mean
Nick fury is an amazing character that has been and is being ruined by mcu and cecil stedman is an amazing character that is in the hands of good writers
I agree
Ai
This entire video was just preamble
He'd be a better Nick Fury if his lines weren't so bad.
This was written by an AI.
Thank you for that insightful observation
Hard disagree
Reason one cause he’s white
damn, what an underrated channel!
Keep this up. you'll be huge man
Nah im still taking Fury
This comment sounds like it was writen by Skrull
Heeheehawhaw
Nah, Nck Fury forever!!!!
You have explained how Cecil is superior now explain why nick fury is inferior
I did, u didnt finish watching the video
@@CuriosityThreadThe 38 seconds at the end of the video describing basically the same exact character minus the challenge they both faced
this is so blatantly AI it isn't even funny
Because he's whi- 👴🏻
nah bruv, u racist af ngl ong smh no cap.
you can't be serious rn
that is the worst response you could have given lmao
when you say things like this, it sends a bad example of your ability to argue, and gives ammunition to those of the population who believe that we are ignorant. please do not portray yourself so simply.
im gonna be honest, i don't think he's gonna listen@@dontworry4945
I think this is a joke-
Yet yiu use Nivk Fury as the standard. If yiu believed Cecil was better, yiu would have said Nick Fury is a worse Cecil Steadman. They are two completely different characters, not alike in any way. Stop comparing a charactet yiu probability only know from the anumated series to a character that you probably only know from the movies. Proven by the stock images and footage used. Classic Nick Fury is far better than Cecil Steadman.
Alright, for starters on your take here. Nick Fury came first, so he is the original ideal for these government super secret spy characters that try to keep heroes accountable. Next, the point here isn't that comic Nick Fury is bad, it's that MCU Nick Fury is, He's become significantly less interesting and went from his peak in Captain America Winter Soldier in terms of writing to Secret Invasions which was an non-secret as it gets. The only big character that is revealed to be a skrull is Rhodey, when in the comics important characters are being found out as Skrulls left and right.
marveltard out here mad ash.
Nick Fury wouldv been cool, but they neutered this dude. Litterally cut off his manhood.
Th you mean???
Nick Fury invented the whole character trope Cecil is based on. They're very similar in their roles of the verse
Wow so your opinion is better? Hahaha
i believe this has to be some middle schooler
Did an AI write the script?
It's an AI voice I think
I'm always hesitant to say that something is 100% definitely AI generated, but around halfway through I started to think it had a distinct similarity with the way I've seen Chat GPT write in the past when asked to do similar things to this.
Sure seems like it since they couldn't even pronounce Cecil's last name correctly. Stredman? Wtf is that.
This feels AI written and voiced.
The theaterspeak is not helping.
Just try to make the script on your own, and dont use the entire video to say "Cecil so good" without giving good examples and evidence directly after/before your point.
E.G.:
"When Cecil defended the earth from A he did X while Nick would have done Y which might look like a good choice in the beginning but we can see a better long term outcome due to Furys focus on being rightous and moral while Cecils manipulation give better results".
And please try to make it sound human and not as if a smug british prince is trying to explain the concept of a potatoe to an irishman.
There is an interesting idea here but poorly executed imo.
This sounds like it was written by AI