What Happened to the Shadow Animatronics?
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- Опубликовано: 20 июл 2024
- Today we're taking a look at the Shadow Animatronics, or more specifically: Shadow Bonnie and Shadow Freddy. Why did they suddenly lose relevance? DID they suddenly lose relevance, or did their laundry list of cameos give the impression of a role bigger than they actually had? Let's take a look!
0:00 Who or What are the Shadow Animatronics?
1:24 Their actual lore relevance (Fnaf 3)
2:04 Other Shadow Animatronics?
2:58 Fnaf World (I say the name)
3:20 The Dropping of Shadow Freddy
4:04 Shadow Bonnie's many cameos
5:03 Is Shadow Bonnie Shadow Remnant?
5:34 Fnaf AR's abandonment
5:53 Shadow Bonnie in the books
6:19 What do I think of the Shadow Animatronics?
8:02 The Problem with Shadow Bonnie 
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*"Hi i'm Blackberry Freddy and no one cares bout me becauz they like the Shadow Bons more"*
I got the reference.
even developers replaced nightmare blackberry ferddy with its marionette counterpart. poor balkberry freddy.
This is accurate sadly
Fnaf lore would be much easier to solve if there were a clearer distinction between plot points originating from Scott, which the audience must follow, and plot points originating from the audience which Scott is following due to popularity.
I don't think, for example, that Mrs. Afton's staffbot in the secret room in Security Breach would have had Ballora themed coloring if MatPat hadn't popularized the notion, which came from literally zero evidence, that Ballora was Mrs. Afton.
That there would explain why the story is so mucky and all over the place
Half of the plot points i feel is if Scott basically took them directly from the audiences theorising it all
honestly yeah, think in his interview in dawko he admits that the story changes as it goes along using the box as an example.
it'd be great if scott would simply say what is retconned so we can actually focus on figuring out the pieces that had been given, instead of trying to figure out what those pieces even are
@@sonicmeerkat Its like 30 seconds a tweet or a post regarding the issue is all it can take to calm us down and help the story with its absurdity by fnaf standards
Yet its like Scott either chooses not to or that even he lost the plot so he just lets it run rampant
Not 'literally zero evidence', no. 'Very little, of loose, weak, and shaky evidence' would be a fair argument, but 'literally zero' is a lie. For one point of- again, what can be argued to be loose, weak, and shaky evidence but is still evidence nonetheless -Ballora's poem/song.
Man, people really like to rag on matpat for absolutely no reason, huh. We have a very motherly coded animatronic, that mysteriously sings about 'no more joy' and 'empty tomb' in a game that is fully about the aftons, and somehow calling her mrs Afton is 'literally zero evidence' Who else is it going to be? Charlie's mom? We don't even know about Charlie at the time of sister location!
Shadow Freddy in SFM animations: *A creature made from the dark, Is he evil? Is he good? No one knows, He might be NIGHTMARE himself, He guides the children to free them, Or does he work for the wicked purple guy? He is a god among animatronics*
Shadow Freddy in the Original game: It exist.
Well, that’s because in the games he is evil, helps William, and is in fact nightmare? The sfms aren’t really wrong there. In the files of fnaf 4 nightmare is labeled as shadow Freddy, in UCN nightmare says that he is Williams evil given flesh. What do we see shadow Freddy doing? Reenacting Williams murders in follow me, which allowed for William to harness the remnant of the MCI. So, he is cool
@@duckman9327 If he is Nightmare then he leaps over the moral event Horizon in a fucking SPACE SHUTTLE. Tormenting and trying to kill a small kid, all the while intentionally stalling your kill for the sake of making sure he's as terrified and knows he's dying for as long as humanly possible, taking the shape of the thing that crippled him for life, IN ADDITION to the kid in question being the son of the guy you are working with, giving him a false sense of hope, only to inevitably end his life anyway when you get bored of your own game is pretty much a PERFECT representation of a 'sadistic supernatural monstrocity'
@@duckman9327Shadow Freddy is Willaim wearing a Golden Freddy suit, At least that's how I see it. It makes sense for William to destroy the Suit, making the soul in Golden Freddy free.
The Aftons have taken over the story so much when we got new main characters (fnaf sb) people made theories that they actually have the spirits of half the important Aftons
That’s quite dumb, tbh
Scott never say they were important to the franchise making appear in most games
@@larrymantic2635 I agree for the most part, but I still like to think Michael is Glamrock Freddy, there's not very much evidence at all but I just like the idea that he gets a 2nd chance, plus it helps explain why he's not going after Gregory like the others
@@novustalks7525 no, he wasn't on the network because he was in safe mode
The thing about Shadow Bonnie that kind of bothers me is that he doesn't change his appearance, despite being able to shapeshift. So either Scott got lazy or somethings up.
Also we will never see Shadow Freddy as "Shadow Freddy" again just as "Nightmare".Although even he has been absent since UCN.
What's weird is that Shadow Freddy was always portrayed as being somewhat affiliated with Afton, either ignoring adults at the places he's present (2), downright helping Afton achieve his goals (3) or a deadly and destructive force of nothing but death and suffering (World), yet the Guides try to hammer that he's good somehow? Even though the only piece of evidence is that he doesn't appear in the Night 5 FNAF 3 minigame, because it's completely out of the question for a monster happily allied with a psychotic serial killer to say 'fuck it' and bail when the going gets rough? I mean like, the dude is tormenting trying to murder a random ass kid by taking the from of the thing that maimed him for life and almost killed him. If that doesn't scream 'evil' I don't know what does
If i had to take a swing i think its simply that there isnt much you can explore with the shadows and scott just quietly slid them off the table for the sake of not having too many active beings in the story.
To follow up:
I know its not exactly a THEORY but even looking back im not sure what actual purpose they could serve. The idea that the Shadow Animatronics were springlock victims is compelling, but means little overall and at this stage, looking back, im not sure it was ever a question that was supposed to be asked.
According to Phisnom (the dev for FNAF+) Scott just puts things in his games sometimes that aren't supposed to mean anything and when people latch onto it he tries to run with it; the shadow animatronics are an example of that.
The pronunciation of Shadow Bonnie's real name was way better than i was expecting
Well you see, the Shadows returned to the Shadow Realm from whence they came.
But seriously, I never really noticed how Shadow Bonnie became the more prominent of the two throughout the franchise. Very interesting video.
Also, 3:06 is the moment that RWQFSFASXC became Heisenberg.
me and my friends always thought that they are old employees who died in spring lock accidents whether they were good are bad was always HEAVILY debated amongst ourselves
for me the shadows were always just easter egg, and i loved them as that
it would be so awesome to have them as a easter egg you would expect in every game, like in fnaf 3 where you have a chance of seeing Shadow Freddy suit in the corner, it would be nice to have them appearing as a recurring easter egg, like having a chance of finding Shadow Freddy in the bed at a corner or shadow bonnie in the closet for examole
3:25 actually shadow Freddy does appear in a game before Fnaf world. He appears in FNAF 4 as nightmare the code for nightmare has him titled Shadow Freddy.
Also Fnaf world does kind of show some there's some new things about Shadow Freddy. It shows he has a broken jaw which made some people think he was possessed by the bite victim.
Not gonna lie here, I actually do have an idea for how the Bite Victim (more specifically Crying Child) is Shadow Freddy (with Shadow Fred seeming to quite literally be a spirit of some sort as well). Basically what I go with is that the OG 5 nights of FNaF 4 are not just Mike's nightmares: well, they are his nightmares but not only his. So CC is in a coma for those 5 nights, and during that time the Fredbear animatronic gets decommissioned, meaning he literally has no animatronic to possess even though there should be one. His spirit basically just glitched tf out and boom, now we have Shadow Freddy.
Not sure about Shadow Bonnie thoughn
@@ZirconiaGacha the problem is that shadow Freddy is supposed to be Williams agony
Purple is the colors of shadows, knowing this and the fact that up untill fnaf 3, the suit used by the killer was the golden Freddy, here's a simple theory that was made by a French RUclipsr Fonkyfouine who at the time, who was clearly advanced for his time (predicting that Fnaf would fall into nonsense after what we got with Sister Location, that the games afterwards would be bad, ect)
So here's the idea for shadows freddy and why he probably hasn't came back: "The suit suit of the killer, with the color of the killer"
For shadow bonnie trough? Nothing
The games after SL weren't bad so he wasn't really that advanced.
@@Sonicmid I think I rushed my comment a little I apologise. What I meant is that he pretty much predicted the departure from what made fnaf fun to begin with its Charm and quality, and to certain point, the unsatisfying mess that ended up being Security Breach and the decline of the story years prior, now of course the games are fine.
Comming from a random man from the French Community. The arrival of Sister location wasn't exactly what we had hoped and left a bad taste in our mouth, that's how bad that specific game was received here in France soley for the story, in term of gameplay It's alright, not my cup of tea but was generally well received.
Now of course I cannot talk on the behalf of everyone, people liked SL for what it was. Story and gameplay wise it brought something new to the franchise, and to be fair, the concept of Ennard is really cool, the main issue was the lack of awnsers to just about anything. SL was the begining of the frustration with the storyline. Wich is why we trought it was in the same universe as the books and not the og 4 for the longuest time. We just couldn't see that gamd fit in with rest
@@Pygargue00fr >SL was the beginning
...no? Arguably THAT was FNAF 2, or if you wanted to be generous, FNAF 4 absolutely.
"The fuck is the Bite of 87"
"More haunted shit???"
"Second group of missing kids?"
"Shadows?"
"What tf is the Puppet"
"Who is Phone Guy"
And of course
"Who the fuck are we playing, Jeremy? Fritz??" Etc
Most still not answered and really adding onto the "guy murdered some kids, yikes" plot with not THAT many answers
FNAF 4 being a whole dump truck of even MORE questions
Arguably, the newer games are ANSWERING more questions than they raise. Even FNAF 3, 4, SL, and FFPS/UCN being the "ends"
We at least understand a solid 70% of the story, some broad, some minor
@@higueraft571 if you think so.
7:18 "can you believe that unsolved mystery of glamrock bonnie is the biggest thing that happened to bonnie since he lost his face?" hahaha and he wasn't even around for it!
The shadows may be gone officially but they still live on in the form of shadow greg and shadow ness where the in game lighting bugs out and turns them into shadow gremlins ^^
The shadows are probably dark remnant originated from the first (Shadow Freddy) and second (Shadow Bonnie) missing children incident, like that Hyper Droid guy said. It wouldn't make much sense for them to reappear.
What I’m thinking the Shadow animatronics are, is just as stalking entities.
Like they don’t actually have relevance to the overall story, but they do exist cause of it, maybe souls that are lost, without a host, so they
only watch from the sidelines, or maybe they even just don’t especially want anything to do with what’s going on and just choose to… exist or do whatever they want.
I mostly get this feeling cause everytime Shadow Bonnie shows up, he mostly just sorta appears or watches, without much of a motive beyond the 1 thing he and Shadow Freddy did in FnaF 3. And Shadow Freddy does honestly even less, hardly even actually watching or doing anything. So I’m lead to sorta, assume that’s just, all they are, observers.
I’m honestly kinda convinced the only reason either of them helped in FnaF 3 was cause it was like, a final stretch moment so the two decided to intervene and finish what couldn’t be finished before. Since they don’t seem to want to hunt after the Aftons or get closure, they just wanna… be around, and do whatever. Unless they’re just, extremely bad at one of those two, since their actions don’t seem to suggest they really care about anything going on as much as every else does
maybe they were never even human? Just random ass spernatural entities taking shapes of the characters of the place they appeared in. Jut watching, doing nothing and only occasionally appearing to harras some random ass dude for shits and giggles
Shadow Freddy has almost no relevance right now, and im pretty sure Steel Wool is trying to replace the last important SF's appearance - Nightmare(its called ShadowFreddy in the game files soooo) with its Nightmarionne counterpart. Poor Blackberry Fred.
I honestly think the problem with the Shadow ones is that there wasn't really a plan behind them. In the first game, it was planned there would be five souls for five missing children with the hints of them being placed within the animatronics themselves. In that regard, even though Golden Freddy was essentially an Easter Egg/hidden character, there was a legit plan behind it. FNAF 2 kinda shows the hints of where Scott started making it up as he went along, with 3 being part of a planned ending and 4... well, kinda where it started to go off the rails a little but at the same time I feel was where the franchise was at it's scariest
In any case, with how planned out and how much Golden Freddy fit into the story despite his practically secret appearance, it's ripe for fan speculation and was just perfect all in all. Meanwhlie the shadow animatronics have what I can only describe as no planned story presence and thus no reasoning for being here.
Can't believe I actually found video about this two animatronics after all those years! For some strange reason they were always my favourites, and by the times of fnaf 2 and 3 I really hoped they would play some sort of role in story. However, it never happened which I was disappointed about, but I'm just glad people still remember those two little fellas. Though, I might say, shadows do feel out of place now. I wish they actually played bigger role in games
At this point I just consider that they're just...there, the headcanon I agree with the modt is that they could be the first victims of a springlock incident (bc spring bonnie and fredbear), but then again there's the issue of SFreddy looking like Withered Freddy and SBonnie looking like Toy Bonnie (why don't the two have the appearance of the same type of animatronic, etc)
But ultimately, it's not like they matter much anymore in the lore, so, eh
Theory i more subscribe to...
They're Agony manifestations of the MCI Incidents.
One group, the Core 4/withereds.
Second Group, the Toys, occurring in the middle of FNAF 2 even
@@higueraft571 I find this one more likely but I like the idea of them being ghosts of springlock victims.
3:05 I've never heard someone do that successfully. That's quite impressive.
Anyways, the Shadows. They're very interesting, but seemingly just were a resource that went unused and eventually forgotten due to that lack of use. I think they were originally merely meant to fill the same role as Golden Freddy, then just 'The Yellow Bear', did in FNaF 1 - a very, very rare easter egg encounter, which had seeming implications of just outright forcing the player out of the loop of nights, given they forcefully crash the game. This particularly since Golden Freddy was more of a character in FNaF 2, and as such couldn't exactly have just a mechanic that breaks the game and closes it. Another character who straddles the line between these is the loose endo in that same game - seemingly, all of these are not even particularly lore-relevant, but instead just various tension-building scenes and hallucinations and the like. Most certainly, the lore shifted a lot in those earliest games, to the point of the first not really having all to much in terms of it, until it got to the focus we have now, but back then it seemed to much more be a matter of trying to break the cycle through these esoteric, strange means which weren't really easy to understand, up until someone apparently did try to make sense of it all and just made it all the more confusing - now we're here, and now they just don't fit anymore. FNaF 3 leaned so heavily into the easter egg characters that they weren't even that anymore, just more of a secret to get that so-called good ending. FNaF 4 still has them - in fact, Nightmare himself _is_ seemingly Shadow Freddy, just fitting the line more. He even retains the FNaF 2 and FNaF 3 appearance of matching his golden counterpart, but not the normal Freddy (who in FNaF 3 appears to be not present beyond the costume near the office door, since Phantom Freddy is in fact yellow). I do wonder what Scott might add of these sorts of things if he ever did remake FNaF 1, from perhaps a different Golden Freddy appearance or more showcases of the different meaningful hallucinations that might be there. I don't think we ever did get confirmation that Springtrap was even in that pizzeria, to be fair, and things like that - I've certainly seen interpretations try to explain otherwise.
7:18 I wouldn't say quite _that._ Springtrap is also a Bonnie model, although peoples' insistence on naming him after a season is infuriating to say the least, and he was a little later than the Withered, so technically up until FNaF 6 came out with.. that.. for a remodel, he too existed as a part of the Bonnie line. And Bon-Bon was certainly an interesting take on the design, too - the Funtimes as a whole are just quite unique in a lot of ways.
Spring Bonnie is his name in FNAFWorld and on. Although sometimes called Springbonnie without a space, that's his official name.
@@ryanprower4246 Yes, that's his canon name. It also sounds utterly, abysmally stupid. Moreso than his counterparts such as Toy Bonnie or Rockstar Bonnie and so forth.
@@ultmateragnarok8376 It's just Springlock Bonnie shortened. Spring Bonnie rolls off the tongue easier, and one could make the argument that Bonnie, being a rabbit, likes to jump and such, bouncing around like a spring.
I feel like Toy Bonnie is a stupid name since he was supposed to *replace the original Bonnie* from what I remember, so he should just be called Bonnie. I believe that in-universe, Spring Bonnie was also just called Bonnie in the same way Fredbear was just called Freddy at the time.
@@ryanprower4246 I know it's a legitimate name (although I think 'Springlock Bonnie' just sounds a bit better, and the one-word 'Springbonnie' is.. kind of weird outright, actually, why _did_ they do that), but yes he and the Toy counterpart were both just Bonnie at their respective times. Rockstar Bonnie and, if he ever did exist, Glamrock Bonnie would have the same treatment, as would the Withered back when they were active, and so on and so forth. I'm pretty sure though that Fredbear was always Fredbear, back when the diner was open - it was named for him, and the rebranding was likely so they could escape the publicity of the first major bite.
@@ultmateragnarok8376 The reason we know Fredbear was just Freddy was because the poster for Fredbear's Singin' Show refers to the singer as just Freddy.
Eyy, this was a nice video. Thanks for giving them Shadows a place in the spotlight. Scott is seriously missing out by not using more of these obscure characters, but I think they were only ever supposed to be one offs that got more popular than he anticipated, hence their cameos in the following games after the second.
Glad your pc is back btw!
Going on a tangent though, a character that is as obscure as the Shadows that has been teased a bunch in SB is Nightmarionne. From what I’ve seen this guy is supposed to be FNaF’s representation of death, and from the way he’s being teased in SB, with his plushies all over the place, the tendrils in the arcade area as well as the Nightmarionne staff bots I think he will actually have some story relevancy in Ruin and beyond. Probably. Hopefully.
Am I the only one getting tired of characters with great potential getting sidelined and being forgotten about? At least this one might have a chance to shine.
You are not the only one. XD I've got an Ennard video that shows true potential with a pretty sad punchline.
I think the shadows are Michaels memory of the bite of 83 like the phantoms being the past places he worked at hallucinating him, the shadows are the representation of spring Bonnie and fredbear, he’s forgiven himself for the bite of 83 so fredbears (shadow freddy) is gone forever but spring Bonnie (rwqfsfaxc) is William he doesn’t forgive William so shadow Bonnie is going to stay until Micheal forgives him, always in the shadows like the security breach cardboard cut out
Ok but how does this explain their appearances in the mini games, I like the idea it just ignores certain parts of the games in the process.
@@Bandit_King_YT Uhm… ah yes, that was the shadows trying to break free from Fredbear and spring Bonnie, and once they’ve freed themselves shadow Freddy just goes on, but shadow Bonnie just sticks around watching and chilling waiting for the sin to be forgiven (William doing the stabby stabbing)
Well, shadow Freddy was in fnaf 2, 3, world. Plus nightmare is directly called in the files to be shadow Freddy, so that would also include anytime nightmare is present as they are the same character. So shadow Freddy is in 2, 3, 4, world, UCN. This makes him cooler, but still wish we had more of him
You are definitely the rightful sucessor of prettygrumpybear your so entertaining to watch and your theories are so cool and also entertaining to listen.
I still think RXQ/ShadowToyBonnie is made out of Dark Remnant.
I believe a youtube (LS Mark) talked about how Dark Remnant is the opposite of Remnant.
I don’t know much of these so I’ll go off what LS Mark said.
I believe he said, Dark Remnant is about how haunted being’s a formed by memories from people of something, their emotion’s of that something or someone.
So I think RXQ is made from Dark Remnant, or an arcade.
Idk
Interesting video. It's a shame these guys are almost forgotten (especially Freddie). In fact, the franchise is named after him, and of the two, he gets the least attention.
I think it's possible (in context that the animatronics actual have meaning) that the shadow animatronics are casualties of this "Remnant". though, it is to be noted that the remnant probably wasn't thought up until *way* after FNAF2, so my theory is under the assumption of "oh, maybe the remnant was planned". It's nice to hear your thoughts, and I agree that it was probably a cool easter egg that got way too much attention.
If the shadows do have story relevance (at least now) then I think RyeToast has a really good theory on what they represent. Despite what they represent if anything at all, the Shadows were still pretty cool. I’m hoping maybe the shadows might get a good revive in something like Ruin. This hope feels very VERY unlikely, but then again I’m hoping that we get Ennard back at some point so my hopes aren’t really worth anything.
Been binge watching your videos, love everything so far! Your voice is really comforting actually and I LOVE hearing your takes. Fnaf is one series super close to my heart, and im usually iffy about hearing criticisms about things I like…which is something I’ve tried to come to combat and your channel has really helped that! I love fnaf sm but I can admit where faults lie. Also you never seem disrespectful to the franchise as a whole, which is hard to do while actively shitting on William all the time. 😭❤️ Keep up the good videos, I feel like I’ve reconnected with my childhood while also gaining some new perspectives on it. Which is all and all a good thing.
I think that shadow Freddy is actually nightmare, if fnaf 1-4 were originally the end, I believe dream theory makes sense for those series of games, I think the shadow animatronics are workers who died in spring lock suits in fredbears family diner.
What I know about this is Shadow Bonnie might possibly be a spring lock victim that people didn't know, that's what I think. Also they probably are the lost remnants that William didn't get. That's why they are lost. In the book, Hide and seek, The child died because of the sharp thing on the tree, after that, I think Shadow Bonnie did die, or not because the end says welcome like when "it" first met the kid, after that, "it" didn't appear anymore. About Shadow Freddy he existed in fnaf 1, 2, 4. The nightmare was his last appearance as well, so I might think that Shadow Freddy is still there.
Shadow Bonnie is a being of Agony. This is shown in Hide and Seek.
He feeds off Toby’s negative emotions, and tortures him for his own sadistic entertainment.
Shadow Bonnie is somewhat relevant, but not in a way he’s necessarily major.
Since the games are separate from the books, it unknown if he’s the manifestation of agony or a soul in the games. But in the books, he is a manifestation of agony.
You forgot shadow Freddy Easter egg in fnaf 3! He appears at the side of you office on very rare occasions. It happened twice in my play through.
I’ve heard ideas that the Shadows could, at least in this age of the story, be composed of Agony like what Blob is.
I dont really believe it tho and I think they’re just gonna keep being easter eggs.
Though I wonder why Scott chose ToyBonnie and GoldenFreddy as the base models
Im pretty sure Scott used Toy Bonnie's model cause he didn't have a Spring Bonnie model yet.
From the theory i heard: Each Shadow is from a separate MCI, shadow Freddy from the FNAF 1 location/withereds, shadow Bonnie from night 6(?), when phone guy mentions there's been an incident, with one of the suits, causing the Toy Animtronics to go berserk
The Shadow Animatronics were obviously Eleanor in disguise.
I always thought the shadow animatronics were just workers for Fredbears diner that died in Springlock accidents.
I always believe the shadow animatronics are the true souls of the missing children Shadow Freddy is Gabriel, Shadow Bonnie/rwqfsfaxc being Jeremy, Susie becomes Shadow Chica, her dog is the Shadow Cupcake, Shadow Foxy is Fritz, while Cassidy is either Xor or a female version of Golden Freddy.
Well, I had a headcanon that they both might be the springlocks failure victims in fnaf 4. We see there two people who wear the fredbear and springbonnie suit. Also to note the fact that William isn’t the person wearing the springbonnie suit, he is instead helping a person do that. However, interestingly, when CC is locked in some sort of a storeage room, we see a yellow suit with no head, we only see some brown lines on it, at first, anyone would think it’s empty, but up close, you can see those lines might actually be some brown hair sticking on the top, meaning there IS someone inside, but, why are they so still and silent while a child in front of them is crying and banging on the door? Isn’t it dangerous to sleep in a springlock suit since even our breathing which contains moisture might trigger it? What... what if they are already dead? They don’t look like a child, since their head is sticking up, they are pretty tall. The suit had a relevance of what might be the person we see who wears the fredbear suit, or the springbonnie suit, come to that. And correct me if I’m mistaken, but wasn’t there some sort of writing about springlock failures? So I’m thinking that the adult guys who worked in fnaf 4 are the shadow duo. It might explain a bit why does they look all black and different than the other souls, they have stronger agony and remnant since they are grown-ups. And since William was with one of them, he might have plotted their death so he could have some samples for the remnant theory. But again, this is my headcanon and might not be true but it’s all I have to think about them.
A possible explaination is that yes - he's just a hallucination, but a hallucination with significance these are the ghostly visions of fredbear & spring bonnie from micheal's past , the reminder of what he did to his younger brother forever haunting him.
I love Shadow Bonnie in UCN because the two options are both equally funny:
He’s either made up or he is a spirit who showed up of his own volition.
Him being made up by the Vengeful Spirit or whatever is funny because they made up a bunny that just turns off the light for ten seconds. If he’s a spirit who showed up his own volition, he had to weasel his way into this hellscape trap whatever, just to turn off the lights for ten seconds.
No matter which it is, he just turns off the lights. Oh no! Nosferatu in rabbit form!! So scawy!!!
The Shadow Animatronics are actually the scariest and coolest ones imho.
Something about their bright white eyes and teeth contrasting their dark bodies and how they just appear out of nowhere just freaks me out in a good way. I really want to see them again in an official game one day.
I've always found shadow freddy creepier than bonnie, I always hope he'll return
I like to think that Shadow Bonnie is the anger of the 5 missing children souls.
Ohhh I'm hyped for this I've been studying the shadows a while I wonder what your take on it will be
I thought the theory was Shadow Freddy is the other soul in the Golden Freddy suit. But with the existence of other Shadows, I'm inclined to believe they are raw agony perhaps leftover when a soul passes on.
Shadow Bonnie is canonically an agony being, but his origin is unknown. Shadow Freddy is William’s wickedness
3:07
Isn’t that name for RXQ/ShadowToyBonnie in F.N.A.F.2’s file?
I think the shadows are ghost-like beings made from agony (shadow remnant). Even though "shadow remnant" hasn't really been mentioned in any other game past ar, there are a few small paragraphs in The Ultimate Guide that draw parallels between shadow remnant and negative human emotions. I personally believe Shadow Freddy is made up of the agony of the missing children since he seems more directly connected to the original animatronics based off of the "Follow me" mini-games in fnaf 3. And I think RXQ (Shadow Bonnie) is either made up of William's agony after being springlocked or the agony William has inflicted on his victims. In the fnaf 3 mini-games RXQ always felt like an outsider looking in; the other animatronics never seem to notice him and he is usually hiding in shadows or in walls in the mini-games (that mixed with his connection to Bonnie makes me think he's somehow connected to William.) This next part is going to seem really disjointed from the rest of this comment but I strongly believe that RXQ is actually Glitchtrap and that William did actually die in the fnaf 6 fire. Firstly, RXQ's mechanics in ar are very similar to how Glitchtrap is summoned in hw, where he can only "attack" you once you've collected enough shadow remnant/tapes (there's also the fact that the Glitchtrap virus is attached to all of the animatronics in ar, which could explain how remnant can just be floating around in your living-room in the game.) Also RXQ's Fazbear Frights story (hide and seek) is a parallel to the story of hw; in both story's someone encounters an "anomaly" in the games and when they go to investigate which leads to a Bonnie character attaching itself to them and eventually driving them to suicide. There are also smaller connections I've found like how the "Afton Amalgamation" in the Fazbear Frights books never calls itself William or Springtrap, instead it calls itself "Agony"; and the Glitchrabbits in the Princess Quest look very similar to RXQ. I'm sure I'm missing some details or getting others wrong but I haven't heard anyone else talking about these connections and I wanted to have the potential for an "I told you so" moment if I end up somehow being correct in the future.
I absolutely freaked out when I saw Shadow Bonnie in one of Dawko's Security Breach livestreams.
My honest opinion: The shadow animatronics are mysterious and cool. They have very minor roles in Fnaf 2 where just appear to glitch your game. However, FNAF 3 made Shadow Bonnie more likable with his minigame and his music box. Also, Shadow may or may not have appeared in FNAF 3 as phantom shadow/withered golden Freddy depends on what you believe. Although, Shadow Bonnie has not appeared in Fnaf 4, Shadow Freddy may be nightmare because, in the game files “nightmare,” mode is called shadow Freddy. So, does that mean Shadow Freddy is Nightmare? Most likely is my answer although, I have just learned this so I don’t know their origins. My idea is that the shadows are made by agony backed up by Fnaf AR. Sure, it’s “dark remmant,” but it would make so much more sense if it’s Agony from something like the MCI, Charlie death or CC death. Lastly, I’m going to talk about “Hide N seek,” from Fazbear Fright. Shadow Bonnie is actually just a cutout from an arcade game. Toby got mad and destroyed the game and then Shadow Bonnie sewed himself onto Toby. In my opinion, Shadow Bonnie is most likely sewed onto Toby because of all the negative life which might have some relation with Agony. My evidences is when, Toby decided to stop being so mad about his brother being better then him then shadow Bonnie got smaller. Overall, Shadows are quite mysterious but, that also makes them pretty cool.
A theory I've heard/seen before, though I can't entirely remember where, is that the shadow animations, mainly shadow bonnie is that they are a solid manifestation of agony.
“Gone. Reduced to atoms” - Thanos
I think a part 2 on this based on that supposed shadow glamrock bonnie of ruin would be a fun video idea perhaps?
Oh, I'll definitely be making a video on that fella! Here's hoping he's as neat as he looks.
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 Looking forward to it!! Recently came across your channel and the content has been absolutely amazing to watch!! :D
3:52 yo. Afton is back in this game. Shadow Freddy always hangs around and helps Afton. Coincidence? Probably, but what if no?
What if the shadow animatronics are humans that have been trapped in those suits and are ghostnpike beings watching the entire story
My belief of the shadows that unlike the other spirits these ones are adult employees that were caught in springlock accidents in the past and now they haunt the establishment
I think that Shadow Bonnie was probably a representation of CC’s previous love for the animatronics while Shadow Freddy represents his future fear of them.
SB was for the most part a helpful figure in FNaF3.being a key player in getting the good ending
Where Shadow freddy not only was the reason the animatronics were destroyed in FNaF3.The fact that Nightmare(who is Clearly based on SF)exists is proof of that.
Or at least was before the retcons
I hope shadow Bonnie makes a cameo appearance in the security Breach ruins DLC during one of the key events of the DLC
Interesting theory, I do enjoy what you describe about things that no one else talks about. Keep up the great work and stay thinking my fnaf friend! 👍
Thank you, and I sure will! 8D
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 Not a problem! It would mean alot if you could be my 1st sub I'd very much appreciate it :) I plan on making a 8 bit fnaf series very soon! Also theories of my own!
I have always thought that RXQ and shadow Freddy were the phantom equivalents of fredbear and springbonnie but just more powerful
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and now that you’ve sed THAT they won’t
Shadow Freddy got killed off by Scott himself after FNAF 4
and Shadow Bonnie appeared till UCN and on my opinion,Shadow Freddy have more intresting appearence.
They can be aftons victims,the first or just after charlottes death excluding the MCI
the shadows are kind of in every game depsite not appearing,they are still there,like if those spirits would hunt william till he died
I would love to get your thoughts on the FNAF 4 girl who looks like Baby who shares a similar if not the same text color as the Fredbear plush
I believe the idea that maybe the shadow animatronics are made of pure agony, feeding off of the fear of the player,
These characters have potential, I’m just hoping Steel Wool Studios uses that potential.
Um I don't know if you still need other video ideas, but have you ever thought about how the original missing children are over shadow more and more. Like I know they we're just plot points just how Charlie from the forth closet was. It was just a thought, also I really enjoy your videos
I have thought about doing a video about that! I have it on the list, but I'll add these details. ^_^
Awesome video.
Thank you!
IS THAT DIALTOWN MUSIC AT THE END⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️
The Nightmare is called Shadow Freddy in FNAF4's files.
Didn't Scott confirm that the Shadow Freddy Easter egg in FNAF 2 was a rendering/coding error of some kind? With it supposed to have been Golden Freddy but some bug turned him purple and Scott just never fixed it. I guess he was then retconned into the story in FNAF 3. So whatever "Shadow Freddy" is, most likely still has connections to Golden Freddy/Fredbear, considering the similarities also extend to Nightmare Fredbear and Nightmare. Another point could be FNAF World, which lacks Withered Golden Freddy, but has the oddly recolored Shadow Freddy, so perhaps they still are the same entity, or at least very closely related?
Hmm you missed a big point, Nightmare in fnaf 4 is actually called shadow Freddy in the game files, and Scott said no Easter egg was random, it was all intentional.
Well, there's another addition... He didn't appear again though, and from what we see there is no direct connection that Crying Child is Shadow Freddy, and he still doesn't appear after that. There we go! Got it covered! XD
Scott also said what was in the box changed after Fnaf 4, so y'know. ;)
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 oh absolutely. Dreamguiest aside, I honestly believe that the nightmares were attacking "Cassidy" to draw out their fear "it is not your flesh that sustains me,it is your fear" very interesting line from springtrap clearly not a pre record like some of the other AR animatronics.
I doubt, crying child's importance to the lore, feeling it was just an intentional deception to allow Mike to be easily manipulated by William.
It's refreshing to see you know what your talking about, possibly the first time I've actually been surprised by an answer using historical canonical lore events to get points across.
Later I'll comment on a few things I found about shadow bonnie specifically that I don't have the time to do right now, since it's Christmas but you got yourself a subscriber 😁👍
RWQFSFASXC aka Shadow Bonnie and Shadow Freddy are probably explained away by the phantom/hallucinations in FNAF 3 as it's the last time they appear to my memory besides Shadow Freddy and Nightmare arguably being the same thing but that whole game is pretty much a hallucinogenic drug anyway so still works
this shouldve stayed as a non-canon easter egg tbh
I still don't get one thing, if they were so important in saving the ghost children in fnaf 3, it means they are not hallucinations, thus being entities or spirits. And then they just get dropped out of the blue like- then why was they made important? It's weird ngl.
I personally don't regard shadow animatronics as important, although they are interesting. And the shadow bonnie battle in AR was (at least for me) way easier than the actual animatronic battles. In regards to their origin in the story I think they are agony. Also did you hear that 2 days ago Matpat sold his channels to a company-a startup called Lunar X?
EDIT:Also where does the 8 birthday picture originate? From the graphic novels?
EDIT 2: Oh no. I visited the theorists channels and unfortunnately they have undergone "renovations". You know how the old banners had the channel specific logo surrounded by IP characters on a white backround with matpat looking from the side?
Well the new banner is a "cool" dynamic blue backround with matpat REMOVED. Just the [specific name] theory in the center in bold letters surrounded by 4 IP characters (In case of Food Theory 4 types of food) and the specific logo on the backround. . Kinda sad. Also Gtlive has taken the 4th and last part of the circle. Blue.. Did they seriously transform Gtlive into the 4th "official" channel??EDIT:No the 4th channel is launching next month. And the blue part of the circle is now across all channels. Maybe I'm exageratting but this might be the (further) downfall of Theorists. Next thing you know, Matpat won't be the host anymore...
Oh dear, that sounds a lot like what happened to the AVGN. He wanted more help and got looped in with a company that, for all intents and purposes, didn't really help him as much as they were supposed to. It's a long story. I'm not crazy about Game Theory, but getting involved in the wrong company can lead to questionable things.
Also, the picture was- I believe- posted by Steel Wool. It was considered official, but I don't remember where it came from.
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 Huh. Also what is your opinion on the glitched attraction? Love it personally.
It’s so weird that FNAF AR decided to confirm the identities of these sort of nothing characters confirmed by a kinda nothing game ( they’re agony creatures btw)
3:07 first time I've heard somebody actually say "RWQFSFASXC" without spelling it
I hate that Shadow Freddy gets slept on I love shadow freddy
Jeremy was the victim of the bite of 87 and hes agony soul became shadow bonnie but a Theory is that bite of 87 is from bonnie was the one that bited jeremy and then its the last thing he saw was hes shadow so he became a shadow and that means that he became shadow bonnie
I feel like shadow bonnie was kind of scrapped and his concept of being a sort of glitchy rabbit character was reused for glitchtrap. Also wasn't shadow freddy turned into nightmare and lefty? because there's a lot of evidence that implies that shadow freddy/nightmare is lefty. in fnaf 3 the minigame where you follow the puppet only for purple guy to kill you is reused in fnaf 3 but puppet is replaced with shadow freddy, and in fnaf 4 nightmarionne replaces nightmare
Shadow Freddy looked like he was drop he did appear in the FNAF movie kinda
Also them making a big deal about fall fest and the toys in a merry go round many at fall fest could be a way to bring back rwqfsfasxc
Well. We can only hope shadow balloon boy exists and has massive plot importance.
They married each other and are living happily now.
Nightmare is Shadow Freddy
A quick thought, which just occurred to me- since fnaf 3, we have never had an actual canon happy ending for each game. Why is that?
I’m not sure. I guess it’s the whole ‘horror has to have a dismal ending’ trope. Something that misses how a happy ending can leave an audience with a better experience.
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 Good thing BATDR seems to be breaking this trope.
@@riskopalfi801 i mean...is BATDR even a horror game?
@@yourselfcrab2361 Hm.. Geniounly do not know now that I think about it. Maybe. It has some tense moments, but it is not outhright scary. My point still stands however.
My personal theory was that The Shadows were Williams first experiment. A partially failed one. They were the two kids from the newspaper in the first game. Sh.Freddy orchestrated the first take down of William in the third games minigames, releasing themself after the springlocking (like the others) and Sh.Bonnie stuck around to make sure he was dead in fnaf 3, releasing themself after the location burnt down.
But that was just my theory
What is the name of the putto song you used?
I wish security puppet was a bigger character
Shadow Bon good, helps the fune thin man free the kids, Blackberry Bear bad, he helps the killer to get that sweet, juicy agony. Simple as that
My favourite animatronic is shadow bonnie and will always be
bonnie has been used abused and defused...from the franchise also i swear if the theory about bonnie being in burntrap is true im going to ill never forgive steel wool
Maybe it's agony? Maybe (just read title atm)
(Tey r 2 Shadow._Bonniez.) Shadow._Freddy = Yelllow._Bear = Night-Mare = Fredbear_Plush.
Shadow bonnie is in ruin.
Lore of What Happened to the Shadow Animatronics momentum 100
What I think:They (RWQ at least) are beings made of agony,(Williams agony for RWQ) and are trying to find people who have a bad life and get as much of agony from them as possible beacuse they need it to survive.
Now that the character encyclopedia(while being ok) says that it is very likely RWQ is made of dark remnant(Agony)
It’s confirmed that RXQ is a being of agony (shown in Blackbird: Hide And Seek
But it’s also confirmed Shadow Freddy is WILLIAM’S agony.
It’s a low chance they share that same role
RXQ just tortures people for his own pleasure, aswell as cause he is a being of agony. (Again, this is shown in Blackbird: Hide And Seek)
I like shadow Freddy more
What’s your opinion on “Hide N seek?”
One of the better Fazbear Frights stories! Not my favorite, but I appreciate that is seems to take inspiration from game lore and gives life to a fan-favorite character who hasn't been around a lot, Shadow Bonnie.
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 Personally, It might be my favorite Fazbear Fright.
Shadow bonnie is sammy emily
fanf boni
I always thought Shadow Bonnie was Sammy.