I kind of wish that Freddy was always glitched from the start and he was just playing the long con. Imagine instead of the Burntrap ending, we instead get Possessed Glamrock Freddy. Originally Vanessa was meant to be an ally of Gregory's and Freddy was meant to be possessed by Afton. The upgrades of Monty, Chica and Roxy are what led them to being susceptible to being glitched. Freddy has no upgrade of his own. Or does he? What if I told you the upgrade of Freddy's is his stomach hatch? I have a theory that Freddy had a history of killing kids like the other Glamrocks. Vanessa's cut line suggests it "I don't know how to fix it. What am I going to do? If Freddy was working, we'd have him by now." As for how the upgrade would amplify his worst personality traits? Basically, Freddy would be like a Silent Hill antagonist. Freddy would be the most intelligent of the band and most advanced model of Freddy Fazbear. In cut content, Freddy says "I hear what some guests say about me. Bad things happened in the past. But that was not me. Those were older models-Flawed. I would never hurt anyone. You know that. Right?" His insecurities would be fearing he's becoming like the defective models of old and his worst trait is being a manipulative bastard. In the case he's corrupted, I hypothesize that it would involve him using this, such as luring the player into trusting him and when Gregory is at his most vulnerable and all the other Glamrocks are shattered and we go to Freddy Fazbear's Pizza Place. There's nothing. No Burntrap. No Shattered Glamrocks. No Blob No one. Just Gregory and Freddy. Then Vanessa tries to communicate with Gregory on the Fazwatch "GREGORY, RUN AWAY FROM FREDDY, HE'S GLIT- and she's cut off.(Sidenote, Vanessa's cut line of "I have the second key could've tied into Vanessa freeing herself from Afton's control to be Gregory's ally) Afton played the longcon. Freddy is not fully glitched. So what will it take to get him under his control? The upgrades. The upgrades of Monty, Chica and Roxy are what led them to being susceptible to being glitched. Freddy's upgrade used to be enough, but his incident on stage ruined Afton's plan, so he had to wait until Gregory would be desperate enough to upgrade Freddy with the other Glamrock's parts and there Glitchtrap would work his magic. Tell Freddy "he killed them. Chica, Monty and Roxy are broken because of Gregory" Gregory would find discarded notes in the pizzaplace. About Freddy's chest upgrade. Then incidents about missing children being last seen entering Freddy's stomach hatch. One more note that says "Freddy has a disturbing pattern of finding lost and scared children, lull them into a false sense of security and then they just disappear." Suddenly, Freddy's eyes turn red. “G-Gregory. D-don't be af-fraid. I-it's just a g-g-glitch. Gregory? Come back. I thought we were friends. Where are you? Why do you hide? Where are you Gregory? Supersta-sta-sta-sta-ory? Where are you supersta-sta-sta-sta-3rr0R…Don't run away from me.“ Gregory would then be forced to shatter Freddy. After being Shattered, we would then get a chase between the Shattered Glamrocks and Gregory. Gregory would then be forced to flee the Pizzaplace. If done so in the correct amount of time, Freddy and the Glamrocks burn with the Pizzaplace and Vanessa saves Gregory. If not done in time. Freddy and the Glamrocks surround Gregory and the last thing Gregory sees is what we'd see as the Halloween sale image.(nice troll move, SW)
They did a great job of setting up a plot line where freddy gets more corrupted with every upgrade too, but just never follow through on it. Adding the upgrades feels genuinely creepy and wrong on a first playthrough, especially Chica’s with the voice, but then there are no consequences so it becomes just another menial task you have to do to get through the game Love the idea of freddy’s upgrade being the stomach hatch all along though. Super creepy, and it calls back to the older games in a fun way
Honestly that "Suuuuper starrr" sent chills down my spine. Super star was the one phrase that made us feel safe throughout the entire game because of Freddy, now that safety is hunting us down
That exactly the kind of detail that would've made it so good! Part of good horror is always about removing the viewer/players sense of safety. People felt like this game wasn't scary in no small part because of how effective Freddy was at being a safe and protective ally that, in the end, was stronger than all of the other animatronics. Imagine getting through 3/4 of the game as it is, thinking "It's not that scary because Freddy is so OP" and then having the loving papa bear torn apart before your eyes. Not only do you realize that your only safe place (Freddy's stomach hatch) is now gone, but you also have that dawning realization that the OP Freddy that's made the game sooooo easy up until now... is now hunting you down, all while calling you by the name that you used to make you feel so safe. That's terrifying! It would've been an extremely well executed and terrifying version of "your biggest sense of safety suddenly becoming your biggest threat" and it will forever be a tragedy that this is not the story we ended up with
I always thought the "Free Vanessa" ending was the true one, because it has 3 stars and overall the happiest ending image. The afton ending only had 2.
theres also a firewall bunny in Ruin...that I just cant imagine Gregory had the INT to even make...only Vanessa could have done that...then again..she doesnt die in the "true ending" either...so hmmm...
Tbh, I actually like the idea of Freddy being a threat to Gregory later on. Not betraying him, of course, but being controlled by the Afton virus. I mean, that did happen, but it wasn’t really executed the greatest in my opinion.
@@kaiserreichempireofohio834 But pretty much impossible with SB's setup, as he could just hand Gregory over to Vanessa in the first minute and boom, Afton wins. No need for the long con. *Unless* Freddy has his own agenda independent of Afton. What that could be, I don't know, and the only thing that comes to mind is escaping, which is just Sister Location again.
@@damkylan3 Fair point. Maybe they could have just wanted to torment Gregory in their hubris? Like have him trust Freddy only to be betrayed or whatever. Or like you said he could have his own plan to escape, which even if it’s like sister location would make perfect sense, since like the funtimes the Glamrocks show very sentient qualities, and naturally being locked up all day isn’t something any sentient would care much for. And while the idea of animatronics with a sense of self trying and succeeding to break out of their facility would be shared, what they do with their new freedom could be different, like instead of sewer dwelling for like 36ish years, Glam Freddy could do something else, which could work as a basis for the next game.
@@damkylan3 i feel like long con could work if Vanessa was more developed as a character. Maybe she was deviating from Aftons control, making him use Freddy instead bc he wasn't sure if Vanessa could be trusted anymore. As for the Vanny reveal i feel like it would have been better if it was someone/something else trying to frame her. The Vanny=Vanessa plot was genuenly so boring imo
I actually think this could've been a very cool storyline for SB, but goodness that audio string of Gregory crying absolutely broke my heart. Whatever people might feel about him, this is a kid. A clever and curious, but lonely and understandably scared, kid. And while it hurts to hear that audio, as Security Breach is now, I think it's easy for people to forget that.
Totally agree! He really is just a kid. I think being the player- and being a little rougher on the edges- makes it harder for some audiences to connect. Which is a shame.
I feel the same way, when RUclipsrs play the cut audio of Gregory crying I always skip it because it makes me feel bad. I do like Gregory quite a bit, I'm really disappointed that the books made him a villain.
@@sophitiaofhyrule ;; Yeah I find that choice kind of strange. On one hand, I think that sort of loneliness could be a really interesting motive for a villain, but on the other hand I personally wouldn’t say Gregory is the right fit for that role.
@@fIorapetals I agree, i don't understand why he gets so munch hate. While i do like the animatronics in the game, i can't blame Gregory for destroying them, they were literally hunting him and he did what he had to do to get out alive. I didn't knew that they were making him a villain in the books, a pretty strange choice Indeed.
I feel like people lean too much on the “evil Gregory” hc too hard and the books really didn’t help that. I really liked Gregory when he was just a little shthead who f*cked around and found out with the Pizzaplex, all this meta theory around how he’s secretly the main antagonist because he shattered the animatronics (who can get fixed anyways, see the spoof ending where Freddy is replaced with Mr. Hippo) just kinda screams edgy and “f*ck them kids” rhetoric. When it turned out he really was an orphan I decided that I really liked Gregory as a character in Fnaf. He’s the perfect target for Afton who “got away”, not the secret twist villain 🤣🤣🤣
It’s wild because they could have easily incorporated Freddy as a threat and also giving the story a happy ending, make him bad and have Gregory had to scape and destroy him, maybe using the skills the player has learned through the entire game, at his last moments he comes back and tells gregory to open his brain or wherever his id chip are and took them, and have an ending where he finds spare animatronic parts that he uses to make Freddy a new body, or he can even just find another Freddy shell already in working order, the end
I feel like in a lot of ways Security Breach was neutered of the horror element and even though I do have a soft spot for the characters there is no denying that shattered Freddy would've been an absolutely amazing plot point that could've....maybe not SAVED the game, but done a lot of good for its reception. For example having an ending where at the very last minute shattered Freddy is able to break through the control of the virus and save Gregory but in the process sacrificing himself could've been incredibly impactful. More so than the 'run away in the cave we're on a hill now??????' ending :P I guess I just see so much potential in Security Breach and I wanted to see it succeed.
For me as a lover an observer of FNAF for its entire lifespan- Security Breach is great because it encompasses how the other games feel. Not scary. The gameplay itself is not meant to be scary, ever- I’m convinced of it. It’s the story material and the characters that is meant to scare us.
@@OrochimarusPanties Except it doesn’t feel like how the other games do at all. While some of them didn’t age as well, some of the other FNAF games still are scary. FNAF 4 will never NOT be terrifying. Pizzeria Simulator always gives me an uneasy feeling. Help Wanted being VR makes its jumpscares extra special and get me quite often, even if I’m not using the VR. And Security Breach’s story is not scary, and it’s also just… not there at all. So, no, it’s doesn’t represent what the other games feel like. It’s just a disappointment.
Freddy becoming the “boss battle” only makes sense. As I’ve said before in horror/thriller, the media is traditionally named after the main villain/threat, not a protagonist. You’re completely right that having him effectively switch sides would only help the story. In other news Gregory having Vanny “”disassembled”” by the staff bots in that one ending is grizzly af even if it’s off screen. Only other deaths that compare in the series are the Springlock failure on William Afton and maybe Mike getting his innards ripped out and getting stuffed back up like a friggin’ turkey.
something about the vanny ending that makes me think is that gregory had to watch it. this 10 year old had to stand there and watch vanny get torn to shreds because of what he did. with the other animatronics getting shattered i dont think it would feel the same to him, he sees them as just robots who dont feel. honestly i think it would be interesting to see how this would affect him long term since he could excuse it to himself with “oh she was trying to hurt me first, i was just defending myself” or he could internalize it and blame himself or maybe im just a freak, idk man
honestly if the community was just like it was in 2016 you know someone's gonna draw or animate a very grizzly depiction of that scene. And honestly that'd be an amazing fan animation
@Goblinoiddoof I remember seeing fanart of that scene actually, with Vanny's body collapsed in front of several Staff bots and one of them holding her head... still connected to her spine, tearing it out of her body. It was pretty brutal, but also pretty cool.
Honestly I wish they had the balls to just retcon all of Security Breach and just try again. They’ve got the budget to, fnaf is huge, but there’s no way they’ll do it.
I don't think it's a question of "they had the balls". It's never that easy, you can't remake something that huge from the start. They could always add little things and stuff but nothing more. Not to mention, it would be taking the easy way. You have to learn from your mistakes, let them be the way they are, and get better.
SteelWool can’t just retcon an entire game that’s THIS popular, even with how flawed it is. It’s not about what they have the balls to do, it’s about what’s feasibly possible.
That's not a good idea. The game is relatively recent, people paid for it, you can't just go "Uh sorry guys ignore this one. We're gonna start from scratch". That stuff never happens, you have to work with what you have.
I think what would’ve worked with Shattered Freddy, while keeping the Afton ending intact, is giving the player the choice to either destroy Freddy or attempt to save him, leading to an encounter where Gregory tries his hardest not to destroy freddy while dodging attacks from a rampaging Ursine, (Unlike the other animtronics who Gregory has no remorse about destroying, by the time this happens in the story Gregory really bonded with Freddy) if you go the easy route of destroying freddy.. you get the bad ending, Gregory escapes the pizzaplex in tears about what he just did before Vanny finds him and presumably kills him. If you manage to save Freddy, he’s horrified about what he almost did to Gregory, and realizes that the only way to stop this is to get to the source of the problem, which he now knows where it is due to his possession. It would feel great for both characters to have a darkest hour and give them a reason to go to the Afton ending because of what happened.
I think Freddy coming back to his senses wouldn't be as effective, of course having Afton just appear to remind us that he "came back" would be super lame. But if the Afton bossfight was like a Night 6 section with all the animatronics including Freddy are even more aggressive because of Afton it would be great. At least for me. (Sorry for my bad English)
I honestly want to know what went through the developers minds as they got closer to the deadline, I know it's not their fault that they were rushed, but I can't help but imagine that it looked like the SpongeBob mind when he forgot his name
I guess they weren't ready to be AAA developers then, because that's pretty much what they do. XD They work on a game until it's released, release it... and unfortunately tend to have to patch it later. >.< But some games actually come out in a complete state!... N-Not as many anymore, but uh...
Just imagine the crying is on loop while you had to hide from Freddy. Hearing Freddy try to lure Gregory out while he is crying would have been so impactful.
I hope that shattered freddy does appear in Ruin, but there's many things I think are more important to see there. Specifically, as I said in a comment on a previous video, I hope Ruin makes sense of the absolutely terrible plan of building the Pizzaplex over a sink hole. Shattered Freddy has a really good design too, which makes it an even bigger shame that it isn't in the base game.
One of the biggest untapped potential in Security Breach, in my opinion, was the animatronics actually being people. Like, Freddy's always worrying about his friends to Greggory and just seeing everyone all shattered and not connecting the dots. It would have been neat to have some sort of scene where he at least talks to him about it, not necessarily betraying him over it. Plus, there was that line about Freddy getting his shell slapped on a new endo. It might have been neat to see him with what's basically his entire identity stripped from him, with some imposter wearing his skin.
Even if we couldn’t have shattered Freddy, that doesn’t mean that Gregory’s emotional arc couldn’t be with someone else. The twist of Freddy betraying Gregory could’ve fitted perfectly with Vanessa. Instead of Gregory and Vanessa being strangers, they’re related, which also provides an explanation of why Gregory is at the pizzaplex. Vanessa is the security guard at the pizzaplex and unfortunately, couldn’t get a babysitter for Gregory. So she had to bring him along. Instead of Vanessa randomly locking Gregory up in the middle of the game, it happens during the beginning. Gregory is excited to come to the pizzaplex, only to get disappointed when he gets locked up in lost and found. Vanessa tells him that it’s for his safety, but of course he doesn’t believe her. Gregory escapes through the vents and happens to catch a glimpse of Vanny, which makes Gregory want to explore the pizzaplex even further. By chance he ends up in Freddy’s room. However, around the same time, Vanessa returns to lost and found and is furious when she finds out that Gregory escaped. This could explain why Vanessa is trying desperately to look for him throughout the game, while also being a bit aggressive. Not only did Gregory disobey her, but the stress of turning into Vanny, and catching Gregory as Vanny adds onto this. It also gives motivation of why Gregory wants to confront Vanny, after he realizes that Vanny and Vanessa are the same, he figures out that Vanessa is being controlled and wants to save her, because she is his only family. I feel like Vanessa being related to Gregory in some way could’ve been great story potential and fits with security breaches’ theme with family connection, like Gregory and Freddy.
I love that Freddy was so helpful and kind, but I agree that a Shattered Freddy would have been a really interesting thing to do with him, especially keeping the idea of him fighting Afton off, leaving Shattered Freddy with 2 endings- the one where he does completely fight off Afton, and the one where he does not. I wish we could have gotten the SB they wanted us to have.
Honestly security breach was so confusing and not what I expected that I started writing my own rewritten au version just to satisfy myself, it’s has my own original ideas and characters and it’s inspired by both games/books as well as similar genres.
Oh my god the possible parallel of “The one you should not have killed” and Gregory would have been bomb as hell! What a wonderful way of starting a new chapter of FNAF while still having a connection to the older series. I am so impressed and somehow even MORE MAD that Steel Wool didnt do something 🤣🤣🤣
I remember how in a game theory video regarding how fan theories online could be causing game devs to change their games, MatPat mentioned how a certain dev team emailed him after the GT theories came out about their game, “jokingly” asking if he had a mole inside the team. He was excited because it meant the community was possibly on the right track. He then followed this up with mentioning how a few months later when the game came out it was completely different and felt incredibly rushed and broken. How it felt like the original story had been scrapped in favor of attempting to somehow “surprise” the fans. He expressed how irritating it was to see devs clearly trying to prioritize shock value over just letting the community get something right. Now, he didn’t specify exactly who it was in that video- and to be fair there were a handful of candidates it could possibly have been. But, in an off handed comment, he let it slip on a GTLive video not even related to fnaf that it was, in fact, Steel Wool had been the ones who emailed him. That only makes the plot of security breach that we got even more frustrating because it confirms the fact that there was a story there that made sense, a story that was interesting and fit into what the previous games were leading us to believe. And Steel Wool chose to change it last minute. That’s why when you play Security Breach it feels like it was a completely different game at one point, because it was. That’s why all those voice lines were cut and why, if you go to the main stage on the final countdown before even attempting to get out of the pizzaplex and get killed by Moon, a new mission pops up called “Plan A”. There was something else there to the game - of course that’s only one example but it’s one that I don’t hear a lot of people talk about. It seems that Steel Wool - in an attempt to not have their game seem “predictable” or “boring” because so many fan theories were far too close to the original plot - scrapped everything and quickly tried to put something else together, and the whole game suffered for it. Some of their mistakes were indeed things like making too much content for their studio to handle - like apparently the third floor of the pizzaplex was an accident that their art team modeled completely without knowing - but so much was just trying to recreate the surprises Scott was able to pull in the earlier games. It sucks that we lost out on content like this. That’s the true tragedy of Security Breach: the loss of potential.
Firstly, please never call him Glam Daddy again. Secondly, while I do agree that it's a sweet ending to end the story on, I feel like it'd be more on brand for FNAF to have something more bittersweet for the "true ending". But hey, can't change it now.
They could have made his body be an enemy and Gregory keeping the head like on one of the endings, making the game a little bit scarier without completely losing him as a friend
I hipe Steelwool are taking their time for the DLC (and it looks like it's the case) because they had the best of intentions with SB and the game as it is, is great yet somewhat unsatisfying: passionate but flawed unfortunately. The missing third act is truly what is missing the most in my opinion and the way you present it, I think it could have fixed quite a few flawed aspects of SB current ending(s).
I don’t even agree with that I think the game was pretty awful. The setting is fantastic, but it’s a glitch ridden mess with cheap difficulty and a practically nonexistent story because for whatever reason they cut the entire story out
This just makes me realize how much better it all could have been. How much more fun we all could have had. How much better the scrapped content was. And after recently learning that apparently the early and unfinished release of the game wasn't for ex by some higher ups and was entirely the Steel Wool's decision, I just feel disappointed. This is a good video. Honestly I've been watching your channel for I think over a month now and I do have to say all your videos are good.
Thank you so much! Yikes, they came out and said that? Well, that supports my 'needed to get the game out to move onto other projects' approach... Scott has got to start shopping around. A VR studio likely shouldn't have been the ones working on this game anyways, it should've been a team with experience.
And don’t forget that The Door that’s out of order in Vanny’s Hideout leads to Bonnie Bowl….it seems we originally meant to go through it to escape from Vanny and The Shattered animatronics….what would happen next….I have no idea.
Were did they confirm it was Steel Wool's fault? If it ends up being the case, then there's a chance that some of these errors won't happen again in whatever the franchise does next (though the whole family friendly censorship stills worries me).
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 I mean, I just remember someone saying that about Steel Wool. But it was from a semi credible youtuber ( that I couldn't remember the name of even if my life depended on it ) and with some logic behind it. Scott probably had enough money for the game to stay in development for a longer time and enough money to keep outside influence from any investors to a minimum. They probably could've released a better game. But on the other hand, if they took more time, there's a high chance that even more of the things in the game would be scrapped. I mean, there already was a lot, who knows if they wouldn't get more ideas again and take the game apart to fit those ideas in just to deliver an even more broken game. And yeah, I can agree that a VR studio making a first person horror stealth game does sound like it would have been a better idea to just get a different studio to make it.
I think it was scrapped due to the rush to get it out because fnaf fans and their theories predicting the game and the outrage of the game not being out yet, obviously it’s out so that’s good
There's a lot of interesting things this game could've had, but didn't. As much as I love Glamrock Freddy being a friend, I think Shattered Freddy would work well. Interesting video, and it made me love Security Breach's potential!
but it'd ruin the friendship between the two, not everything needs to be horror all the time. In fact I'm hoping for a guardian Chica in the dlc too, especially if Freddy isn't around.
When it comes to the GGY story, I don’t necessarily think of Gregory as the next villain. I see it as this child being used by Afton. And he’’s unaware of it by the time he’s actually himself again by SB. Like that’s so interesting! But the problem comes in when.. it’s not really relevant in the plot of the game. And we don’t really find this out at all. There was nothing that leads to it. With what you’re saying on shattered Freddy, that definitely would’ve turned the tide of the reception of SB. And the idea of Freddy turning on ( not intentionally) on Gregory is heart wrenching. But it didn’t pan out as we would’ve liked. And I won't lie and say that I'm not sad about it. 😭 The way SB came out truly did do its story a disservice. Cause we might never know what story we could’ve gotten. It’s honestly pretty sad. But it is what it is now. I just hope this is just more of reason for the FNAF team to improve on what happened with SB. Besides the whole Freddy thing here. But besides that, great video. It was as insightful as always!
i personally think that the virus should have had a sort of slow start. After freddy comes out of safe mode in the beginning he says that he feels that something is wrong with him and that he doesn't feel right, but he pushes that away because a child's safety is more important, like what his programming says. I think this would make it more heartbreaking to see that freddy was putting off his health and eventual mind control off to keep gregory safe. Especially with the upgrades that gregory puts in freddy, it would make it extremely saddening but also terrifying to think that freddy would come after you but also sad because you've spent so much time with him and now he's going to kill you. But that's just me
I am glad that there's a no nonsense ally animatronic though, that IS kind of cool in its own right, but yeah this game's narrative would've held up better if freddy became a threat, I've never seen a horror game give you such a huge safety bubble just to never pop it
i really hope future fnaf titles are given the time they need to be properly made. the series has always had a weird thing with early releases, but with as large a game as security breach is it needed more development time. crunch is easily the biggest problem with triple a gaming for a multitude of reasons, but when it comes to security breach's in game content specifically, i think the story is what suffered the most. i dont think steelwool are bad developers, they're clearly very passionate about their work and have really big ideas, they were just rushed. i hope theyve been given the time they need for ruin, because it has so much potential and i really wanna see more of what they have to offer.
I love how every review of Security Breach i've at least seen. Dances around the story and blames the environment for not being scary. (Bugs not withstanding of course) You're straight up are one of the only peeps that acknowleges the story flaws and how those are the biggest problem with the game. It's all about the context of the setting rather than dark brooder atmospheres and Security Breach lacks an emotional gutpunch to bring more tension into the game. sidenote: I feel like capcom should take a note of this as well aside from steel wool
I remember posting my take in a different YT video discussing cut content and what Security Breach could've been. I think it's just as relevant here. First off, we bring back 'Nights', with Gregory attempting to figure out what's going on with the Pizzaplex, and as a result taking place in different areas as he investigates deeper into the Pizzaplex and its secrets. I say nights but really it's just 7 different acts over the course of 2/3 nights. Doesn't seem realistic for all this to occur over the course of 6 hours at least. 'Night 1' is pretty much the same, Gregory attempting to escape the animatronics hunting him down, before getting caught by Vannessa and taken into the Playcenter, with her not believing his words about the animatronics trying to harm him, which then plays out as normal, but instead of Sun calling the animatronics, they've come on their own, expecting you to be inside as they throw open the doors, barely missing you escape with the help of Freddy. Night 2 has us play as Vanessa trying to track down who she thinks is responsible for the tampering of the animatronics, finding Gregory and locking him in the security room this time Gregory tries to warn her that something is off with the animatronics, but she ignores him, playing it off as a kids imagination, or just an excuse to get out of trouble. So, she heads to the security office to check on the security cameras, but on the way she hears Vanny's voice, before suddenly blacking out. Then the perspective shifts back to Gregory, and it's the same as it was in 2 PM, but without the Vannessa chat since she's well... not capable of doing so now. We manage to escape through the vents, and have to escape back to one of our hideouts without being spotted by the animatronics. Nights 3 and 4 would be mostly the same as the base game, sneaking around, finding out more about the disappearances, having Freddy get broken, and then trying to track down parts to repair him with. During this time we get a message from Vannessa saying she believes us finally. She saw the footage of what occured on Night 2, and knows we aren't the culprit, but the target, and says she'll try and help us. We encounter Chica and get into a fight, ending with her getting crushed, this time in self defense, but also we hear her crying out in pain, and this time, she doesn't survive. However we still get the sewer sequence. With who? The Prototype Endos. They'll be located here instead. Discarded, falling apart. Angry. With the lack of light and piles of junk the only true way to spot them is via their red eyes. It turns out after being in Night vision mode for so long, they can't stand the light, which Gregory will use to his advantage to escape. He'll head back to parts and services to find Freddy, but get Jumpscared by Roxy, only to be saved last minute by Vannessa, who manages to temporarily disable them using her Tazer. She escorts us to Freddy, and helps us repair him. After repairing him, Freddy says 'he feels a little off, but it's probably due to the new parts.' He asks Gregory where he got them from, and we get the same lie sequence involving Chica 'being alright'. This time it's framed more like Gregory being in denial about 'killing' her. He's just a kid after all. Night 5 is where things change. This takes place straight after Night 4. Vannessa will be trying to help Gregory escape since 'this place isn't safe for a kid', telling him about the Security Badges and where to locate them, the closest one being the Security room near Roxy Raceway. What follows is the same as the Head Fetch Quest, with us restarting the power while having to dodge the animatronics and Music Man. The next Security Badge is in the room up above Monty Golf, which Gregory can access through a vent from Mazercise. Again this follows the same story beats as the Monty Quest, but with a twist. For Mazercise you'll be playing as Vannessa at the controls, moving the walls around to get Gregory through while also blocking off the Animatronics closing in. Then Gregory gets the security badge, and encounters Monty. Vannessa tells Gregory how to defeat him using the Bucket. Monty still gets his lower half bisected off, and falls, but the impact of the bucket causes the walkway to collapse, and Gregory lands in one of the ponds below. Now you need to navigate your way out of the golf course while the still active Monty tries to find you, his new destroyed form hard to spot in the foliage and other decorations, but the same goes for you. You must navigate past security bots patrolling the pathways, while also keeping an eye out for movement in nearby bushes. Once you escape Freddy will be waiting for you. However Freddy is acting... off. He's not acting like his normal goofy innocent self. His friendliness feels fake. His movement lifeless and robotic. Figuring something is wrong, Gregory flees, while Freddy yells out for him to 'get back here!'. Gregory escapes, before the night ends. Night 6 has you trying to collect the last couple security badges, while having to hide from Freddy, who is now actively hunting you down, in a twisted game of hide and seek. Unused Voicelines imply something like this would've occured in the original game, and it was just too good to not use here. Once you collect all the security badges, you have the ability to bypass the security shutters and leave. But just as you're about to leave you get a message from Vannessa saying she's figured out what's happened to the Animatronics, and that she can save Freddy. You'll need to meet her in her Security Office and bring the security badges with you. The Animatronics won't be able to get them due to it being marked as 'off limits'. Leaving plays the normal bad ending, but if you choose to stay... It's strangely easy to make your way across the Pizzaplex. Outside of the security bots, there doesn't seem to be anyone attempting to capture you. If you can make your way through without triggering one you won't even see a single animatronic. Vanessa explains what's going on as soon as you arrive at the security office, explaining that she's discovered a secret area below the Pizzaplex. Something the Fazbear Company tried to bury, right below this very area. There's a strange signal coming from there. It must be the source of whatever is controlling the animatronics. But then her voice and words start to become unstable as she questions how it's possible for someone to access the programs of the animatronics. After all, she's the only one capable of such a thing, and she didn't do it, right? She starts to ramble, talking about blackouts and how she'd wake up in a different location. And then... silence. Vanny is in control now. She claps her hands as Freddy comes in through the door and restrains you. She explains that she was the one behind Freddy's change. During the stage performance, he was supposed to have been hacked, much like the others, but instead he suffered a glitch that somehow freed him of 'their' control. But, then you came along, and gave her the perfect chance to 'fix' him, free access to his internals. All it took was installing the corrupted drives and parts of the other animatronics to bring him to her side, like all the rest. 'The Game is over'. Or... it would've been. The same 'Glitch' occurs within Freddy, as he manages to break out of her control and run off with you as you make your way into the Lazertag Maze, while Vanny Chases after you. You have to make your way through the maze while trying to avoid Vanny, who toys with you all the while. You eventually figure out where the entrance is, breaking through a gate marked off limits and descending down into the unknown, while Vanny pursues. Night 7 involves Gregory and Freddy (who is struggling to resist the signal as they get closer to the source) making their way into the fake Pizza Restaurant of Pizza Simulator. Having to navigate its charred and destroyed remains, the vents and maze-like corridors, attempting to get the security doors open and access the office while Vanny attempts to stop you. While doing so you get attacked by Roxy, and Freddy, his safety protocols disabled by the virus, ends up attacking her to protect Gregory, accidentally leaving her broken and disabled. Gregory and Freddy reach the source of the Virus, a computer containing Glitchtrap, connected to the Pizzaplex Network. But before they can disable it, Vanny attacks. But a human in a bunny costume is no match for a animatronic bear. As a final resort, Vanny reactivates the 'Final Protocol' seem at the end of PS, to burn you, Freddy, and all evidence of her tampering to the ground. You flee, while she chuckles manically from her spot in the office. It's now that you encounter Roxy, blind, and without the virus disabled, still hunting for you. Same as in the original game, you trick her into helping you escape by breaking wooden boards or knocking down doors. A cutscene similar to the Afton Ending plays, with the duo escaping as the building collapses, also taking the lazertag maze down with it. Freddy collapses from a mixture of damage, lack of power, and exhaustion from fighting off the virus. As the smoke clears, Vanny's arm breaks out from the rubble, the Bunny Costumed antagonist staggering towards Gregory, before hugging him tightly, taking off her mask to reveal its Vannessa. Again the fire has purged Afton from this world, freeing her mind along with the other animatronics. But now she'll have to explain everything when people show up The screen cuts to black , before fading to a image of Vannessa's Desk, with the classic pink slip and other Freddy's memorabilia, a VR headset off to one side, as the camera zooms in on a photo. A photo of her, Gregory, and Freddy sitting on a hill eating Ice cream. Then the credits roll.
I'm torn. On one hand, it was nice to get a happy ending for Gregory and Freddy, since it's the first ever relationship in the series we actually cared about...but on the other hand, I can't deny how impactful and tragic it would have been to lose our companion like that. But if they're set on Freddy surviving the game, then they better use him. Otherwise what was the point? To be honest, at first I was glad Freddy and Gregory survived, that it wasn't another Boris situation where they give the player someone to get attached to then kill them in the cruelest and most predictable way possible
As someone who is very much a fan of the friendship between Gregory and Glam.Freddy, I still wish it hadn't come at the expense of the horror elements of the game. It feels more like a self-insert fanfic with elements of FNAF sprinkled into a roblox map. It had some genuinely scary moments (the early chase scenes with all three corrupted bandmates out for your blood nearly made me wet myself) but they were quickly taken over by stuff that was either outright cheesy, goofy, or just plain frustrating.
The amount of work you put in to rehabilitating this broken series, especially this entry, is astonishing and probably more than it's earned. Please tell me you're working on something of your own!
I agree! It really felt to me like the whole game was building up to Freddy eventually turning against Gregory (whether while under Vanny's control or not). There are so many story beats and voice line deliveries that seemed to hint at it. And him becoming corrupted as you upgrade him would also make sense, since the lore of the series places TONS of importance on animatronic pieces and endos having the soul bits (if possession is still relevant but at this point Steel Wool seems to want to abandon the supernatural and go more sci-fi). I wish they had just postponed the game long enough to animate a shattered Freddy ending. They almost did. The Vanny ending could've been exactly the same just with Shattered Freddy's presence, a short cutscene of Greg running/hiding from all 4, and then it plays out like usual. I also like the theory that Gregory and Freddy got smooshed in the true ending. Shocked I haven't heard others theorize about it tbh. But you're right; idk if Steel Wool has the gonads to commit to it lol.
This is going to be very long, so please hear this out: I was going to say that I don't think it's too late to add this. I mean, I agree with Gregory becoming... delusional in his anger through trauma. You have William, who's son died. Vanessa who's seen her mother die. And now Gregory who sees the one person there for him become shattered. William finally broke the only two good characters: Gregory and Freddy. If you're playing as a kid for DLC, it makes perfect sense for another kid to lure you. Just how William uses his bunny suit to lure you in. As for Freddy becoming shattered. I mean, in the DLC, all of them will be shattered. I think that it'd be perfect that Freddy is now evil, and Chica would be the ally. You see Chica just standing there. Also, she's the only other animatronic that seems to care about her fellow band members, checking on Freddy and keeping a bowling ball in memory of Bonnie. You hear her crying, and she's more glitchy than the other two. She would have to be more forced to comply with the hack, as Roxy and Monty both already have a motive to attack Gregory and Chica doesn't. Sorry this is long, bear with me: Roxy and Monty are both replacements for Glamrock Foxy (he is shown in DLC trailer) and Glamrock Bonnie. The only "original" characters is Freddy and Chica. The only ones who seem to care. Bonnie seemed to also be portrayed as caring, hints why William is so eager to destroy him. Chica is also a very important character in the FNAF lore. She's one of the first to die in the hands of William, she has her own novella solely about her journey from a human child to an animatronic. It seems like the DLC main character is a little girl. And from the DLC tailers, the original Glamrocks are coming back. AND, part of it shows CHICA and FREDDY. The ONLY ONES to show any empathy and fighting the influence of William Afton! So, why did I write this hellishly long comment that I doubt anyone will read? Well, as I said, I don't think it's too late for what the video says. Freddy is smashed and hacked. The only other animatronic that seems to have good in them is Glamrock Chica. So, I think it's a perfect follow up theme that Gregory joins Vanny and William (as Vanny does kidnap him in one of the endings) through his anger and trauma (like Vanessa and William have experienced). Freddy will now hunt the female child. and Chica, the only other animatronic that seems to carry empathy becomes out new ally. And lastly, the original Glamrocks come back to see Chica smashed and their valued friend, Freddy, shattered and hacked.
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 Oh, do you want me to show you some links? They aren't official, but they don't seem fan made, sense they all have the same clips.
i like the idea of freddy actually being good, like the “soul” of the robot is good, but that getting overpowered by aftons programming. i think it would’ve been a cooler idea to have shattered freddy than just afton coming back. while you’re playing the game, you’re suspicious at first that freddy is being kind bc, yknow, it’s a fnaf game. but then you start to get comfortable around him and you start trusting him, and then all of a sudden that thought in the back of your brain saying “don’t trust freddy” is right. and also like you pointed out, this would’ve given motive for gregory to be “evil”. i have a theory that scott cawthon just doesn’t understand that pretty much everything anyone does has a motive. ESPECIALLY murder. afton having no canon motive has always bugged me, and it seems like scott has just been following that trend
They should have kept shattered freddy. It's such a cool concept that Gregory's "Upgrades" to Freddy, caused the Feral/angry and shattered animatronics to tear apart their friend in search for the part that was stolen from them. Also Minor Greggy-boy thoughts: Gregory always walks a fine edge between "realistic child character" and... "not realistic at all there's something wrong with him" .... And like... Idk... I weirdly like both sides of his character on that... but I feel it wasn't consistent, cause I think certain things were changed in development, so some sections you have an early version of Gregory who is quiet, and scared, and then other sections he flips on a dime to sassy and annoyed and a manipulative shit lol (but manipulative/lying as a child would)
Same with Vanessa. In the final game she's a real piece of work, but in the cut lines and trailer lines, she was initially supposed to be 'sweet and helpful'. So, likely some part of this is because of a change of plans.
Wholeheartedly agree with Shattered Freddy being the gutpunch all the build up of safety and security this game NEEDED to stick the landing AS a horror title. TBH, the unfinished portions of the Pizzaplex, the signs of a scrapped and reworked storyline, and the BRILLIANT early game character development we get to see screams to me that What Could Have Been was... well, Shattered By Crunch. Someone said "Deadline's Next Month" without consulting anyone who ACTUALLY KNEW how much longer they needed to finish, and came with a list of If You Don't Remove X, Y, and Z your game is gonna get an M rating and have its sale to people under 16 years old resticted. So now you gotta Finish The Game and Make A Laundry List Of Content Changes to secure a T rating from the ESRB. With the same resources you already had. And a Looming Deadline. When devs need more time, they should get more time. If Security Breach had gotten a year more? GOD I wish I could play THAT game. Crunch is the fault of bad management and cost cutting; resulting in impossible demands against a deadline that could not realiatically be reached. I hope management improves. This team clearly is SKILLED, and when it works? IT *WORKS!* But that means someone over at Steel Wool / whatever management layer exists needs to show up to make a GAME, not a PRODUCT. Otherwise we'll probably get more endings that land with a *thud.*
Words cannot express how much I wish we could know what Steel Wool intended the full plot for Security Breach to be. So many small strings and details that would make sense connected but were lost to the cuts leaving only broken remains. It's actually almost poetic that the plot ended up just like the animatronics.
I personally don't see why they even bother trying to make the game kid friendly. Even kids are able to tell that the animatronics brutally kill you if you get caught.
A shattred GlamRock Freddy chasing Gregory around the Pizza Plex with the intent to kill would of made a thrilling boss battle, akin to the DJ MM chase, but it's more haunting because Freddy's cracked voice begs you to come back to him. It's a dam shame, and would really re direct the game back to horror, coz holy heck, those unused voices are horrifying.
This reminds me of the video of a re-imagined alternate ending of Security Breach where William actually took control of G.F. and it clearly showed he was in pain as he fought against being forced to kill Gregory.
Fuck yeah new NotRealName video!!! I've been looking forward to this, as I'm not nearly as involved in the fandom as i used to be and the Shattered Freddy stuff went right under my radar lmao Side note: you're actually the reason i finally watched 9 a few weeks ago, i loved it!
That's great! 8D Y'know, there was actually supposed to be not just a sequel, but more movies. Alas, those plans ended up getting scrapped. I would've liked to see what the plan was from there on.
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 I had no idea! As much as i think the film works pretty well as a stand-alone, i now mourn what we could've gotten lol Who knows, maybe one day something could get picked back up (as hopeless as it may seem), at least the fanbase seems to still be going strong :D
I really wish there was an evil Freddy moment. Maybe he says something like "oh no Gregory I can't control myself" and then all the lights turn off coming towards you then you see a mouth and eyes light up and hear the iconic Toreador March....
I find it kinda stupid that steel wool cesnored the word blood meanwhile they practically make us watch vanny get brutally torn apart by staff bots. We see what they did to freddy and we know they did it to vanny too
Well, given that it’s April 3rd, we’ve got a little bit of time to see what the ruin dlc brings about, comes I’m really hoping they bring back not only cut areas but also the cut story sequences
Although I like the take on Freddy being our ally in Security Breach, it would have been fun to allow the player to pick which animatronic character they could have for an ally to help us, with their capabilities and shortcomings. We can ride only in Freddy, Chica can use her voice box to make the others back off, Monty can fight them with his claws, and Roxy can spot things and guide Gregory to safety (for Chica, Monty, and Roxy we can switch between being able to control them Vs Gregory who would also be controlled by the game.
I'm working on a SB rewrite, and major thing I did was to have all the animatronics start friendly. Basically use Sun and Moons mechanic for them so they would still be threats at points. The main gist is that the story starts out as a Nancy Drew like mystery. With Gregory staying after hours because of rumors he heard. Through out the game by interacting with the animatronics and even Vanessa. He would find out more about the plex. Then the game would slowy merge from Mystery Comedy to Tradedgy Horror. All the while the animatronics would become more and more corrupt. To a point where they never turn back again, or the glitch puppeting them is smart and can act friendly. Forcing Gregory to shatter them when he's put into peril. Eventually making Gregory reliant on the one ally who has been immune. Freddy. Now originally I wanted to challenge myself to make it so that it could still work with the Ruins DLC. (Which is why I still have is use afton and the blob despite hating them). Mainly turn SB ending from a sharp left turn. To something that was actually foreshadowed and a satisfying end to the mystery. With Ruins being the epilogue. Now I'm about to say f*ck that and make Freddy shattered at the end too. Cause to start the game with a whole cast of friends. Then end it utterly scared and alone. That would make the tradegy of the ending hit even harder. You ate right. Freddy as a suprise villian hits hard because we spent most of the game trusting him. Being with him. I've seen people admit that even though they hated the idea of Freddy being an ally. He did grow on them and became one of the few parts of SB they liked. I think it would be funny if the people wishing for a more traditional FNAF horror. Had this monkey paw wish happen. Where they do get that old FNAF horror of Freddy being a threat. At the cost of a character they had learned to love.
S. Freddy is probably the highest concept thing this franchise has seen since…Ennard, probably. It works on multiple levels, and it’s a wonderful demonstration of Cerebus Syndrome. That’s a whole thing with Afton, isn’t it? The player rarely firsthand experiences how heartless he is. First time where we, as the player, experience on-site the repercussions of his monstrous actions and see how much damage he leaves in his wake. This…almost feels more fit for an RPG sort of plot twist, especially with using old bosses techniques that you used to use all the time against a less capable player character, causing you to hate the villain and feel for the characters more. An ACTUAL RPG based off these games that gave 0 fucks about lore would go hard, really. If Robo-Gregory happens to be real, it may possibly be the dumbest thing this franchise has pulled since the FNAF 4 box.
I predicted this plot point would happen way back when the trailer came out, and expressed how awesome it would be if he was a trusting companion turned uncontrollable robotic villain, and the mental anguish that had the potential to cause. But noooooo, ofc not.. i really wish they kept it.
It's funny how both gregory and Cassie have voice lines of prolonged crying after their animatronic friend is harmed, I wonder if steel wool took inspiration from the cut Gregory crying for Cassies own sad girl segment. It is also interesting that notrealnameatall mentioned that it would be cool to have Shattered freddy appear in fazerblast for a final confrontation, as ruin has something very similar to whatever that protype dude is.
They must’ve cut Shattered Freddy because of Gregory’s crying track. It’s awful. 😂 Can the mess that was Security Breach possibly be cleaned up by Ruin? I have some hope since it’s been development almost as long as the original game. Himbo Freddy is a fan favorite and will probably be somehow brought back for that reason alone. Excellent content as usual, you really illustrated the lost potential here.
Watching all these videos about all of the cut content in Security Breach really makes it feel like it was so rushed that they didn’t even have time to finish anything substantial. Like there seems to be an unfinished story, unfinished gameplay, unfinished environments, etc… Was there anything finished in Security Breach?
The problem is that it sounds like only one voice screaming. So, that could've been the intention, but they should've maybe laid a few more voices over it.
Hm. I imagine that Shattered freddy would still want to protect Gregory, in a warped way. He'd try to force Gregory into his stomach hatch... Despite that hatch being broken, with wires and sharp metal sticking out
the only "scary" and redeeming part of freddy from what we got is how much he breaks the game, like when he ran right past markiplier in his playthrough big bear is famous bc he is kind and a meme cuz he's a game breaking character, i WISH we got the shattered freddy plotline ughhhhhh it would have been so wonderfully painful and terrifying
Personally I believe that the shattered design for Monty is based on his pride he believed that he could stand on his own two feet and now a child has left him with not even a toe
I just wanna say that this video and your content in general are absolutely amazing and really high quality. The theories you talk about and how you try to make sense of the story have introduced me to new view points of all the mess FNAF's lore is that I never even thought about. You are doing great work for this community and I just want you to know that I appreciate that.
Being real, I think why they didn't do it is cause our last animatronic companion, at least to me, was Circus Baby, and of course we know how much of a superstar Michael was to her. I do understand Freddy and Baby are different, I just think steel wool didn't understand that, and that might be why they pushed himbo wholesome freddy as much as possible, to make him his own thing, unlike anyone before him.
With all the buildup the did through the game, giving him the pieces that made him more dangerous, making the player feel safe when protected by Freddy, I have to assume him turning was part of the plot until some higher up complained that since it’s a fnaf game the bad guy has to be springtrap again or the game wouldn’t sell. Pizzeria simulator was clearly meant to be an ending for the afton storyline and a chance Scott created to have new villains and they chose to go back to springtrap again
Having the shattered animatronics in game was a little like seeing the withereds along with the toys in fnaf 2. What, this new look isn't scary? Bam! How's that?
I'm always super happy when you upload. You're not as loud as other FNAF RUclipsrs so your videos are calming to me, and you're not afraid to say what you think instead of blindly agreeing with whatever popular theorists say. Honestly you're my favorite FNAF RUclipsr, thank you for the banger content ❤️
I wish this happened but I understand why they didn't add it. Did we want more delays? Scott literally made fury's rage because the game got delayed so much.
Well, yeah. The game was only in development for about two years. Those 'delays' were actually the bear minimum for a game of this size, which explains why they were still changing maps. AAA games with full maps and models simply can't be made in the same time as the original thirty minutes to an hour FNAF titles. If we would've gotten full development time, we would've gotten the full game.
The only reason the game got rushed out in the first place was because they got intimidated from the possibility of the game most likely never coming out and trimmed off as much as they could to make it fit for a holiday release
Just hearing those voice lines made me shiver and tear up a little. Imagine actually having played through the whole game and then having this plot twist dropped in. Would have been amazing and even if everything else about the game was the same, I would have forgiven it if this plot was in there.
It’s so weird how much story clearly was planned for the game and how the final product has basically zero story at all. Wander around the mall for hours, a bunny girl appears for about 10 seconds, Afton is back again, there’s a big animatronic blob aaaand before you have time to ask what’s going on here the game is over.
The big problem I have with discussions of Shattered Freddy is the assumption that it would "be better". Bear Dad is a huge part of the experience, and it would have required an enormous amount of time, material, and luck to make taking him away at all satisfying to most players. You can't just have a "scary twist"; large changes like that need to be engaging on their own, and just throwing out dual protector dynamic would have lowered the narrative stakes. It definitely _could_ work (my ideal would be it leading into the Parts and Services section), but "could" is often not strong enough when you only have so much time and space for your story.
Agree, but the alternative is that there's just not really a third act, y'know? There could've been an alternative- like instead of Shattered Freddy, having a Shattered Bonnie replacing that core emotional moment- but there had to be something.
Honestly, I feel that a lot of the groundwork required to make the twist work was already laid down pretty well. Most people have theorised and would have accepted the possibility of Freddy becoming corrupted by the upgrades. There's also the fact that every animatronic in every other game has been hostile to you, making a twist like this feel just at home (after all, Baby pretty much just betrayed us in Sister Location). Just throw in some foreshadowing in the environment and dialogue and they're golden
@@hanhong2267 i feel like freddy being unnerved seeing endoskeletons foreshadows this pretty well. Doesnt he have a whole crisis about being replaced and his memories being wiped? Or he at least implies that’s an uncomfy thought for him. It’s been a while lol. But it seems like it fits this storyline rlly well
Incredible. Only after watching your edit at the end the emptional weight of this scene hit me like a truck. Freddy's desperately fighting an uphill battle for sanity of his friends "Don't listen to her! Resist!" Only for the hope to be shattered (hehe) by Vanny's cold "Disassemble Freddy" right after. Brilliant!
With all of the info prior to release, I was under the impression that Gregory was to be Vanessa's first kill. Her right of initiation as it were and proof to Afton of her loyalty. Which would've easily explained his presence in the pizzaplex and his need to escape, as well as his overall mistrust of Vanessa. She picked him out from all of the other candidates and abducted him off site to avoid unwanted scrutiny. Stashed him away in the pizzaplex, awaiting an appropriate time to release him in order to hunt him down to complete her initiation without interference or witnesses.
So much about the game is bittersweet. It's a very interesting game and story with TONS of potential and it's just..... the absolute bare basics of what was required, with everything possible that could make it have depth taken out of it. I love the context of the fatal flaws for each of the characters, and the concept of "constructing a monster". The game made it very clear that the upgrades given to the other animatronics were an element in their corruption, and it seemed clear throughout the game that giving them to Freddy would likely make him corrupted too. He gets uglier and dirtier as the night progresses, clearly leading to something. And then it just... ends? He's just his same old self but kinda uglier? It's a complete fumble
This has happened to me quite a bit with this channel but this especially felt like I was watching a RUclipsr video written by me, I really enjoyed watching this, keep up the great work!
If I could turn back time I would tell steelwool to take as much time as they need to fully realise their original vision for this game. I would also warn the community that they will live a life of emptiness if security breach isn't given the time it needs to be perfect.
Man I wish we have the story damn this part of the story is tragic and sad poor Freddy he had the witnesses friends get damaged from this kid and he still stays by him and then gets torn apart in the end by his torn apart friends damn this is kind of sad and tragic.
after not seeing security breach gameplay in a long time, the shattered animatronic renders are actually pretty scary. freddy in particular is terrifying to imagine in-game. I’d love nothing more than to see these characters used in a game that deserves them
4:11 I remember in MatPats play through he mentioned something about "idk how comfortable I am upgrading Freddy so much, what if he turns on me?" and he would've predicted one of the biggest plot twists in the game… if the game was finished Edit : Great video btw, your point about the story being un-emotional and un-inspired especially to a new FNaF fan was really good and really well said, despite it being unscripted
Shattered Freddy sure had a great potential. Also thank you for reconstructing the voice lines, they are bone-chilling! What do you think of the Princess Quest ending, where Vanessa is freed from the virus? You didn't mention it here, so I was wondering.
I like the ending! Though because of the popularity of Vanny, I don't really imagine any chance of it being canon. I wish it was though. I think bringing Vanessa back as a playable character could be a really neat opportunity.
God that Shattered Freddy plot line with Gregory becoming GGY would have been so good!!! I don’t want Gregory to be a secret scumbag! I want him to be secretly getting his friend back! It would also explain why he’s so good at hacking, because he’s trying to fix Freddy and the others band mates!
Great vid as always, I wasn't aware of all the implications the shattering of Freddy could've had on the plot "Gregory being evil and all that." Also in terms of "True ending", im also surprised the Burntrap one is real and not the "Free Vanessa" one, but hey, more potential for Vanny in Ruin so I ain't complaining. Also, I still think Shattered Freddy could return in Ruin, but the impact it would have would be lessened, yeah (especially if you don't play as Gregory) Also wait, is 12:52 really from the graphic novel? Bc "I'm the whole ham sandwich" sounds way too funny to be real ngl.
If this was a cutscene it would probably be after we disassembled vanny while we’re STILL in her room and then we would hear Shattered Freddy saying “Gregory…” while he walks towards vanny’s hideout, then gregory tries to hide in the corner of the room but Freddy finds him and all the glamrocks corner him (it would kind of look like the halloween sale art of SB but all the animatronics would be facing gregory) and the camera would focus on gregory with tears in his eyes. [Cuts off to black]
I kind of wish that Freddy was always glitched from the start and he was just playing the long con.
Imagine instead of the Burntrap ending, we instead get Possessed Glamrock Freddy.
Originally Vanessa was meant to be an ally of Gregory's and Freddy was meant to be possessed by Afton.
The upgrades of Monty, Chica and Roxy are what led them to being susceptible to being glitched. Freddy has no upgrade of his own. Or does he?
What if I told you the upgrade of Freddy's is his stomach hatch?
I have a theory that Freddy had a history of killing kids like the other Glamrocks. Vanessa's cut line suggests it
"I don't know how to fix it. What am I going to do? If Freddy was working, we'd have him by now."
As for how the upgrade would amplify his worst personality traits? Basically, Freddy would be like a Silent Hill antagonist.
Freddy would be the most intelligent of the band and most advanced model of Freddy Fazbear. In cut content, Freddy says "I hear what some guests say about me. Bad things happened in the past. But that was not me. Those were older models-Flawed. I would never hurt anyone. You know that. Right?"
His insecurities would be fearing he's becoming like the defective models of old and his worst trait is being a manipulative bastard.
In the case he's corrupted, I hypothesize that it would involve him using this, such as luring the player into trusting him and when Gregory is at his most vulnerable and all the other Glamrocks are shattered and we go to Freddy Fazbear's Pizza Place. There's nothing. No Burntrap. No Shattered Glamrocks. No Blob No one. Just Gregory and Freddy.
Then Vanessa tries to communicate with Gregory on the Fazwatch "GREGORY, RUN AWAY FROM FREDDY, HE'S GLIT- and she's cut off.(Sidenote, Vanessa's cut line of "I have the second key could've tied into Vanessa freeing herself from Afton's control to be Gregory's ally)
Afton played the longcon. Freddy is not fully glitched. So what will it take to get him under his control? The upgrades. The upgrades of Monty, Chica and Roxy are what led them to being susceptible to being glitched. Freddy's upgrade used to be enough, but his incident on stage ruined Afton's plan, so he had to wait until Gregory would be desperate enough to upgrade Freddy with the other Glamrock's parts and there Glitchtrap would work his magic. Tell Freddy "he killed them. Chica, Monty and Roxy are broken because of Gregory"
Gregory would find discarded notes in the pizzaplace. About Freddy's chest upgrade. Then incidents about missing children being last seen entering Freddy's stomach hatch. One more note that says "Freddy has a disturbing pattern of finding lost and scared children, lull them into a false sense of security and then they just disappear."
Suddenly, Freddy's eyes turn red.
“G-Gregory. D-don't be af-fraid. I-it's just a g-g-glitch. Gregory? Come back. I thought we were friends. Where are you? Why do you hide? Where are you Gregory? Supersta-sta-sta-sta-ory? Where are you supersta-sta-sta-sta-3rr0R…Don't run away from me.“
Gregory would then be forced to shatter Freddy. After being Shattered, we would then get a chase between the Shattered Glamrocks and Gregory. Gregory would then be forced to flee the Pizzaplace. If done so in the correct amount of time, Freddy and the Glamrocks burn with the Pizzaplace and Vanessa saves Gregory. If not done in time. Freddy and the Glamrocks surround Gregory and the last thing Gregory sees is what we'd see as the Halloween sale image.(nice troll move, SW)
They did a great job of setting up a plot line where freddy gets more corrupted with every upgrade too, but just never follow through on it. Adding the upgrades feels genuinely creepy and wrong on a first playthrough, especially Chica’s with the voice, but then there are no consequences so it becomes just another menial task you have to do to get through the game
Love the idea of freddy’s upgrade being the stomach hatch all along though. Super creepy, and it calls back to the older games in a fun way
Wasn’t Vanessa helping meant to be a red hearing (idk how to spell that)?
The stoumach hatch upgrade makes the most sense
@@azimuddin1890 red herring
Hippity Hoppity
This is now a headcannon
And it is my property
In all seriousness tho, i wish this was in the game
it's a real shame they cut the whole, "Freddy creates a pipe bomb and puts it in burntrap's mailbox" scene.
The... what?
@@ZirconiaGacha that's what I was gonna ask😂
last chance to look at me, afton
Literally Freddy Kaczynski
Freddy had enough of afton
Honestly that "Suuuuper starrr" sent chills down my spine. Super star was the one phrase that made us feel safe throughout the entire game because of Freddy, now that safety is hunting us down
That exactly the kind of detail that would've made it so good! Part of good horror is always about removing the viewer/players sense of safety. People felt like this game wasn't scary in no small part because of how effective Freddy was at being a safe and protective ally that, in the end, was stronger than all of the other animatronics. Imagine getting through 3/4 of the game as it is, thinking "It's not that scary because Freddy is so OP" and then having the loving papa bear torn apart before your eyes. Not only do you realize that your only safe place (Freddy's stomach hatch) is now gone, but you also have that dawning realization that the OP Freddy that's made the game sooooo easy up until now... is now hunting you down, all while calling you by the name that you used to make you feel so safe. That's terrifying! It would've been an extremely well executed and terrifying version of "your biggest sense of safety suddenly becoming your biggest threat" and it will forever be a tragedy that this is not the story we ended up with
I always thought the "Free Vanessa" ending was the true one, because it has 3 stars and overall the happiest ending image. The afton ending only had 2.
You were correct
@@cosmicgrub360possibly
Yup, Ruin Dlc confirms it
@@coatrak1357 no, not possibly the dlc confirms it
theres also a firewall bunny in Ruin...that I just cant imagine Gregory had the INT to even make...only Vanessa could have done that...then again..she doesnt die in the "true ending" either...so hmmm...
Tbh, I actually like the idea of Freddy being a threat to Gregory later on. Not betraying him, of course, but being controlled by the Afton virus. I mean, that did happen, but it wasn’t really executed the greatest in my opinion.
I gotta say the idea of it being a long con job of Freddy’s part would have been interesting.
@@kaiserreichempireofohio834 But pretty much impossible with SB's setup, as he could just hand Gregory over to Vanessa in the first minute and boom, Afton wins. No need for the long con. *Unless* Freddy has his own agenda independent of Afton. What that could be, I don't know, and the only thing that comes to mind is escaping, which is just Sister Location again.
@@damkylan3 Fair point. Maybe they could have just wanted to torment Gregory in their hubris? Like have him trust Freddy only to be betrayed or whatever. Or like you said he could have his own plan to escape, which even if it’s like sister location would make perfect sense, since like the funtimes the Glamrocks show very sentient qualities, and naturally being locked up all day isn’t something any sentient would care much for. And while the idea of animatronics with a sense of self trying and succeeding to break out of their facility would be shared, what they do with their new freedom could be different, like instead of sewer dwelling for like 36ish years, Glam Freddy could do something else, which could work as a basis for the next game.
I agree
@@damkylan3 i feel like long con could work if Vanessa was more developed as a character. Maybe she was deviating from Aftons control, making him use Freddy instead bc he wasn't sure if Vanessa could be trusted anymore.
As for the Vanny reveal i feel like it would have been better if it was someone/something else trying to frame her. The Vanny=Vanessa plot was genuenly so boring imo
I actually think this could've been a very cool storyline for SB, but goodness that audio string of Gregory crying absolutely broke my heart. Whatever people might feel about him, this is a kid. A clever and curious, but lonely and understandably scared, kid. And while it hurts to hear that audio, as Security Breach is now, I think it's easy for people to forget that.
Totally agree! He really is just a kid. I think being the player- and being a little rougher on the edges- makes it harder for some audiences to connect. Which is a shame.
I feel the same way, when RUclipsrs play the cut audio of Gregory crying I always skip it because it makes me feel bad. I do like Gregory quite a bit, I'm really disappointed that the books made him a villain.
@@sophitiaofhyrule ;; Yeah I find that choice kind of strange. On one hand, I think that sort of loneliness could be a really interesting motive for a villain, but on the other hand I personally wouldn’t say Gregory is the right fit for that role.
@@fIorapetals I agree, i don't understand why he gets so munch hate. While i do like the animatronics in the game, i can't blame Gregory for destroying them, they were literally hunting him and he did what he had to do to get out alive. I didn't knew that they were making him a villain in the books, a pretty strange choice Indeed.
I feel like people lean too much on the “evil Gregory” hc too hard and the books really didn’t help that. I really liked Gregory when he was just a little shthead who f*cked around and found out with the Pizzaplex, all this meta theory around how he’s secretly the main antagonist because he shattered the animatronics (who can get fixed anyways, see the spoof ending where Freddy is replaced with Mr. Hippo) just kinda screams edgy and “f*ck them kids” rhetoric. When it turned out he really was an orphan I decided that I really liked Gregory as a character in Fnaf. He’s the perfect target for Afton who “got away”, not the secret twist villain 🤣🤣🤣
It's such a shame shattered Freddy never turned up in the actual game. It would have been kinda like Re7's alternative ending.
It’s wild because they could have easily incorporated Freddy as a threat and also giving the story a happy ending, make him bad and have Gregory had to scape and destroy him, maybe using the skills the player has learned through the entire game, at his last moments he comes back and tells gregory to open his brain or wherever his id chip are and took them, and have an ending where he finds spare animatronic parts that he uses to make Freddy a new body, or he can even just find another Freddy shell already in working order, the end
I feel like in a lot of ways Security Breach was neutered of the horror element and even though I do have a soft spot for the characters there is no denying that shattered Freddy would've been an absolutely amazing plot point that could've....maybe not SAVED the game, but done a lot of good for its reception. For example having an ending where at the very last minute shattered Freddy is able to break through the control of the virus and save Gregory but in the process sacrificing himself could've been incredibly impactful. More so than the 'run away in the cave we're on a hill now??????' ending :P I guess I just see so much potential in Security Breach and I wanted to see it succeed.
For me as a lover an observer of FNAF for its entire lifespan- Security Breach is great because it encompasses how the other games feel.
Not scary.
The gameplay itself is not meant to be scary, ever- I’m convinced of it.
It’s the story material and the characters that is meant to scare us.
@@OrochimarusPanties Except it doesn’t feel like how the other games do at all. While some of them didn’t age as well, some of the other FNAF games still are scary. FNAF 4 will never NOT be terrifying. Pizzeria Simulator always gives me an uneasy feeling. Help Wanted being VR makes its jumpscares extra special and get me quite often, even if I’m not using the VR.
And Security Breach’s story is not scary, and it’s also just… not there at all. So, no, it’s doesn’t represent what the other games feel like. It’s just a disappointment.
@@OrochimarusPanties bro is hooked up to copium life support
@@OrochimarusPanties ...you do not understand this series at all, do you?
Freddy becoming the “boss battle” only makes sense. As I’ve said before in horror/thriller, the media is traditionally named after the main villain/threat, not a protagonist. You’re completely right that having him effectively switch sides would only help the story.
In other news Gregory having Vanny “”disassembled”” by the staff bots in that one ending is grizzly af even if it’s off screen. Only other deaths that compare in the series are the Springlock failure on William Afton and maybe Mike getting his innards ripped out and getting stuffed back up like a friggin’ turkey.
something about the vanny ending that makes me think is that gregory had to watch it. this 10 year old had to stand there and watch vanny get torn to shreds because of what he did. with the other animatronics getting shattered i dont think it would feel the same to him, he sees them as just robots who dont feel. honestly i think it would be interesting to see how this would affect him long term since he could excuse it to himself with “oh she was trying to hurt me first, i was just defending myself” or he could internalize it and blame himself
or maybe im just a freak, idk man
*Like a friggin' turkey*
honestly if the community was just like it was in 2016 you know someone's gonna draw or animate a very grizzly depiction of that scene. And honestly that'd be an amazing fan animation
@Goblinoiddoof I remember seeing fanart of that scene actually, with Vanny's body collapsed in front of several Staff bots and one of them holding her head... still connected to her spine, tearing it out of her body. It was pretty brutal, but also pretty cool.
The "freedy's fatal flaw" chapter always reminds me of the best and worse of each character. That is something SB nailed in doing, their characters.
Freddy's fatal flaw is a tragedy, his heart is taken from him, making him this zombie like creature, no thought, no soul, a wild animal.
They made the good choice to not make chica a valley girl lol
Security Breach nailed the animatronics.
Honestly I wish they had the balls to just retcon all of Security Breach and just try again. They’ve got the budget to, fnaf is huge, but there’s no way they’ll do it.
I don't think it's a question of "they had the balls". It's never that easy, you can't remake something that huge from the start. They could always add little things and stuff but nothing more. Not to mention, it would be taking the easy way. You have to learn from your mistakes, let them be the way they are, and get better.
@@wafagdplqs4421 but at the same time, some mistakes are best left forgotten, preferably burned to the ground
@@maverickdarkrath4780 but they always come back ;)
Sorry that was a stupid joke haha
SteelWool can’t just retcon an entire game that’s THIS popular, even with how flawed it is. It’s not about what they have the balls to do, it’s about what’s feasibly possible.
That's not a good idea. The game is relatively recent, people paid for it, you can't just go "Uh sorry guys ignore this one. We're gonna start from scratch". That stuff never happens, you have to work with what you have.
For anyone that knows about Freddy’s voice actor, it’s a shame they cut out the scream where he brings out a little bit of Fiddlesticks
I think what would’ve worked with Shattered Freddy, while keeping the Afton ending intact, is giving the player the choice to either destroy Freddy or attempt to save him, leading to an encounter where Gregory tries his hardest not to destroy freddy while dodging attacks from a rampaging Ursine, (Unlike the other animtronics who Gregory has no remorse about destroying, by the time this happens in the story Gregory really bonded with Freddy) if you go the easy route of destroying freddy.. you get the bad ending, Gregory escapes the pizzaplex in tears about what he just did before Vanny finds him and presumably kills him. If you manage to save Freddy, he’s horrified about what he almost did to Gregory, and realizes that the only way to stop this is to get to the source of the problem, which he now knows where it is due to his possession. It would feel great for both characters to have a darkest hour and give them a reason to go to the Afton ending because of what happened.
Agreed, afton just kinda shows up, and Freddy and Gregory are like "Oh no, old person."
I think Freddy coming back to his senses wouldn't be as effective, of course having Afton just appear to remind us that he "came back" would be super lame. But if the Afton bossfight was like a Night 6 section with all the animatronics including Freddy are even more aggressive because of Afton it would be great. At least for me. (Sorry for my bad English)
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I honestly want to know what went through the developers minds as they got closer to the deadline, I know it's not their fault that they were rushed, but I can't help but imagine that it looked like the SpongeBob mind when he forgot his name
I guess they weren't ready to be AAA developers then, because that's pretty much what they do. XD They work on a game until it's released, release it... and unfortunately tend to have to patch it later. >.< But some games actually come out in a complete state!... N-Not as many anymore, but uh...
I learnt that they changed the story twice when Matpat's theories got too close to the dev's plans.
@@SuperSeasonChannel2003 source?
@@moon4236 I believe it was a GT live video
@@SuperSeasonChannel2003 But were the developers the one who said that?
Just imagine the crying is on loop while you had to hide from Freddy. Hearing Freddy try to lure Gregory out while he is crying would have been so impactful.
Freddy explodes afton
Afton gets exploded by Freddy
Explodes Freddy with mind
Afton goes boom by Freddy
Fredaddy uses Boom boom booty on asston
Max from where the wild things are clocks Gregory, explodes Freddie's head, and then shoves afton into a meat grinder.
I'm so sad they scrapped the part where Shattered Freddy said "It's shatterin' time!" and then shattered Gregory's heart
Oh I thought he shattered his entire frontal lobe
@@CreamCakes420WAS THAT THE BITE OF 87!
I hope that shattered freddy does appear in Ruin, but there's many things I think are more important to see there. Specifically, as I said in a comment on a previous video, I hope Ruin makes sense of the absolutely terrible plan of building the Pizzaplex over a sink hole.
Shattered Freddy has a really good design too, which makes it an even bigger shame that it isn't in the base game.
Jokes on you we got amogus imposter freddy
@@lazyliongames6660personally I always thought the prototype thing was a explanation of why he acted different
One of the biggest untapped potential in Security Breach, in my opinion, was the animatronics actually being people. Like, Freddy's always worrying about his friends to Greggory and just seeing everyone all shattered and not connecting the dots. It would have been neat to have some sort of scene where he at least talks to him about it, not necessarily betraying him over it. Plus, there was that line about Freddy getting his shell slapped on a new endo. It might have been neat to see him with what's basically his entire identity stripped from him, with some imposter wearing his skin.
Even if we couldn’t have shattered Freddy, that doesn’t mean that Gregory’s emotional arc couldn’t be with someone else. The twist of Freddy betraying Gregory could’ve fitted perfectly with Vanessa. Instead of Gregory and Vanessa being strangers, they’re related, which also provides an explanation of why Gregory is at the pizzaplex. Vanessa is the security guard at the pizzaplex and unfortunately, couldn’t get a babysitter for Gregory. So she had to bring him along. Instead of Vanessa randomly locking Gregory up in the middle of the game, it happens during the beginning. Gregory is excited to come to the pizzaplex, only to get disappointed when he gets locked up in lost and found. Vanessa tells him that it’s for his safety, but of course he doesn’t believe her. Gregory escapes through the vents and happens to catch a glimpse of Vanny, which makes Gregory want to explore the pizzaplex even further. By chance he ends up in Freddy’s room. However, around the same time, Vanessa returns to lost and found and is furious when she finds out that Gregory escaped. This could explain why Vanessa is trying desperately to look for him throughout the game, while also being a bit aggressive. Not only did Gregory disobey her, but the stress of turning into Vanny, and catching Gregory as Vanny adds onto this.
It also gives motivation of why Gregory wants to confront Vanny, after he realizes that Vanny and Vanessa are the same, he figures out that Vanessa is being controlled and wants to save her, because she is his only family. I feel like Vanessa being related to Gregory in some way could’ve been great story potential and fits with security breaches’ theme with family connection, like Gregory and Freddy.
That’s exactly what I was thinking and someone even made a comic designed to look like one of the endings that can be interpreted as this
I love that Freddy was so helpful and kind, but I agree that a Shattered Freddy would have been a really interesting thing to do with him, especially keeping the idea of him fighting Afton off, leaving Shattered Freddy with 2 endings- the one where he does completely fight off Afton, and the one where he does not. I wish we could have gotten the SB they wanted us to have.
Honestly security breach was so confusing and not what I expected that I started writing my own rewritten au version just to satisfy myself, it’s has my own original ideas and characters and it’s inspired by both games/books as well as similar genres.
That's excellent! 8D I mean, not that SB was a let down, but that it got you into making your own AU!
Exactly buts it not a comic or anything i just write it for fun and to make a better and more understandable story.
Ps. It’s also longer and works more like a tv series than a game.
Where can I see your work?
drop the link op!
Oh my god the possible parallel of “The one you should not have killed” and Gregory would have been bomb as hell! What a wonderful way of starting a new chapter of FNAF while still having a connection to the older series. I am so impressed and somehow even MORE MAD that Steel Wool didnt do something 🤣🤣🤣
I remember how in a game theory video regarding how fan theories online could be causing game devs to change their games, MatPat mentioned how a certain dev team emailed him after the GT theories came out about their game, “jokingly” asking if he had a mole inside the team. He was excited because it meant the community was possibly on the right track.
He then followed this up with mentioning how a few months later when the game came out it was completely different and felt incredibly rushed and broken. How it felt like the original story had been scrapped in favor of attempting to somehow “surprise” the fans. He expressed how irritating it was to see devs clearly trying to prioritize shock value over just letting the community get something right.
Now, he didn’t specify exactly who it was in that video- and to be fair there were a handful of candidates it could possibly have been. But, in an off handed comment, he let it slip on a GTLive video not even related to fnaf that it was, in fact, Steel Wool had been the ones who emailed him.
That only makes the plot of security breach that we got even more frustrating because it confirms the fact that there was a story there that made sense, a story that was interesting and fit into what the previous games were leading us to believe. And Steel Wool chose to change it last minute. That’s why when you play Security Breach it feels like it was a completely different game at one point, because it was. That’s why all those voice lines were cut and why, if you go to the main stage on the final countdown before even attempting to get out of the pizzaplex and get killed by Moon, a new mission pops up called “Plan A”. There was something else there to the game - of course that’s only one example but it’s one that I don’t hear a lot of people talk about.
It seems that Steel Wool - in an attempt to not have their game seem “predictable” or “boring” because so many fan theories were far too close to the original plot - scrapped everything and quickly tried to put something else together, and the whole game suffered for it. Some of their mistakes were indeed things like making too much content for their studio to handle - like apparently the third floor of the pizzaplex was an accident that their art team modeled completely without knowing - but so much was just trying to recreate the surprises Scott was able to pull in the earlier games. It sucks that we lost out on content like this.
That’s the true tragedy of Security Breach: the loss of potential.
I thought that was hello neighbor?
@@hexelssyeah it was, this comment is wrong but it is true that the developers did that. not cuz of matpat tho
I couldn't do that to Glam Daddy! I'm personally glad that the true ending let us escape with him instead of him becoming just another enemy.
Agreed!
Firstly, please never call him Glam Daddy again. Secondly, while I do agree that it's a sweet ending to end the story on, I feel like it'd be more on brand for FNAF to have something more bittersweet for the "true ending". But hey, can't change it now.
I agree. The reason I liked Security Breach was because it WASNT like most FNAF endings, and it didn’t make me depressed.
They could have made his body be an enemy and Gregory keeping the head like on one of the endings, making the game a little bit scarier without completely losing him as a friend
@@crizmeow8394 That could potentially have worked.
I hipe Steelwool are taking their time for the DLC (and it looks like it's the case) because they had the best of intentions with SB and the game as it is, is great yet somewhat unsatisfying: passionate but flawed unfortunately. The missing third act is truly what is missing the most in my opinion and the way you present it, I think it could have fixed quite a few flawed aspects of SB current ending(s).
I hipe so too
I don’t even agree with that I think the game was pretty awful. The setting is fantastic, but it’s a glitch ridden mess with cheap difficulty and a practically nonexistent story because for whatever reason they cut the entire story out
@@ftrwrwbg exactly.
Great???
This just makes me realize how much better it all could have been. How much more fun we all could have had. How much better the scrapped content was.
And after recently learning that apparently the early and unfinished release of the game wasn't for ex by some higher ups and was entirely the Steel Wool's decision, I just feel disappointed.
This is a good video. Honestly I've been watching your channel for I think over a month now and I do have to say all your videos are good.
Thank you so much!
Yikes, they came out and said that? Well, that supports my 'needed to get the game out to move onto other projects' approach... Scott has got to start shopping around. A VR studio likely shouldn't have been the ones working on this game anyways, it should've been a team with experience.
And don’t forget that The Door that’s out of order in Vanny’s Hideout leads to Bonnie Bowl….it seems we originally meant to go through it to escape from Vanny and The Shattered animatronics….what would happen next….I have no idea.
Were did they confirm it was Steel Wool's fault? If it ends up being the case, then there's a chance that some of these errors won't happen again in whatever the franchise does next (though the whole family friendly censorship stills worries me).
@@notrealnamenotatall2476
I mean, I just remember someone saying that about Steel Wool.
But it was from a semi credible youtuber ( that I couldn't remember the name of even if my life depended on it ) and with some logic behind it. Scott probably had enough money for the game to stay in development for a longer time and enough money to keep outside influence from any investors to a minimum. They probably could've released a better game.
But on the other hand, if they took more time, there's a high chance that even more of the things in the game would be scrapped. I mean, there already was a lot, who knows if they wouldn't get more ideas again and take the game apart to fit those ideas in just to deliver an even more broken game.
And yeah, I can agree that a VR studio making a first person horror stealth game does sound like it would have been a better idea to just get a different studio to make it.
I think it was scrapped due to the rush to get it out because fnaf fans and their theories predicting the game and the outrage of the game not being out yet, obviously it’s out so that’s good
oh my god the crying gregory audio broke my damn heart 😭
It's so sad that they scrapped the "Gregory quick pull out your fazglock and shoot Vanny"scene
There's a lot of interesting things this game could've had, but didn't. As much as I love Glamrock Freddy being a friend, I think Shattered Freddy would work well.
Interesting video, and it made me love Security Breach's potential!
but it'd ruin the friendship between the two, not everything needs to be horror all the time.
In fact I'm hoping for a guardian Chica in the dlc too, especially if Freddy isn't around.
@@prufan
This is FNAF, it's on-brand for this series to have bittersweet endings.
This is very well done and honestly I'm glad you made this video, the work and effort is immaculate.
Oh, thank you! 8D
When it comes to the GGY story, I don’t necessarily think of Gregory as the next villain. I see it as this child being used by Afton. And he’’s unaware of it by the time he’s actually himself again by SB. Like that’s so interesting! But the problem comes in when.. it’s not really relevant in the plot of the game. And we don’t really find this out at all. There was nothing that leads to it.
With what you’re saying on shattered Freddy, that definitely would’ve turned the tide of the reception of SB. And the idea of Freddy turning on ( not intentionally) on Gregory is heart wrenching. But it didn’t pan out as we would’ve liked. And I won't lie and say that I'm not sad about it. 😭
The way SB came out truly did do its story a disservice. Cause we might never know what story we could’ve gotten. It’s honestly pretty sad. But it is what it is now. I just hope this is just more of reason for the FNAF team to improve on what happened with SB. Besides the whole Freddy thing here.
But besides that, great video. It was as insightful as always!
i personally think that the virus should have had a sort of slow start. After freddy comes out of safe mode in the beginning he says that he feels that something is wrong with him and that he doesn't feel right, but he pushes that away because a child's safety is more important, like what his programming says. I think this would make it more heartbreaking to see that freddy was putting off his health and eventual mind control off to keep gregory safe. Especially with the upgrades that gregory puts in freddy, it would make it extremely saddening but also terrifying to think that freddy would come after you but also sad because you've spent so much time with him and now he's going to kill you. But that's just me
I am glad that there's a no nonsense ally animatronic though, that IS kind of cool in its own right, but yeah this game's narrative would've held up better if freddy became a threat, I've never seen a horror game give you such a huge safety bubble just to never pop it
i really hope future fnaf titles are given the time they need to be properly made. the series has always had a weird thing with early releases, but with as large a game as security breach is it needed more development time. crunch is easily the biggest problem with triple a gaming for a multitude of reasons, but when it comes to security breach's in game content specifically, i think the story is what suffered the most. i dont think steelwool are bad developers, they're clearly very passionate about their work and have really big ideas, they were just rushed. i hope theyve been given the time they need for ruin, because it has so much potential and i really wanna see more of what they have to offer.
I love how every review of Security Breach i've at least seen. Dances around the story and blames the environment for not being scary. (Bugs not withstanding of course) You're straight up are one of the only peeps that acknowleges the story flaws and how those are the biggest problem with the game. It's all about the context of the setting rather than dark brooder atmospheres and Security Breach lacks an emotional gutpunch to bring more tension into the game.
sidenote: I feel like capcom should take a note of this as well aside from steel wool
I remember posting my take in a different YT video discussing cut content and what Security Breach could've been. I think it's just as relevant here.
First off, we bring back 'Nights', with Gregory attempting to figure out what's going on with the Pizzaplex, and as a result taking place in different areas as he investigates deeper into the Pizzaplex and its secrets. I say nights but really it's just 7 different acts over the course of 2/3 nights. Doesn't seem realistic for all this to occur over the course of 6 hours at least.
'Night 1' is pretty much the same, Gregory attempting to escape the animatronics hunting him down, before getting caught by Vannessa and taken into the Playcenter, with her not believing his words about the animatronics trying to harm him, which then plays out as normal, but instead of Sun calling the animatronics, they've come on their own, expecting you to be inside as they throw open the doors, barely missing you escape with the help of Freddy.
Night 2 has us play as Vanessa trying to track down who she thinks is responsible for the tampering of the animatronics, finding Gregory and locking him in the security room this time Gregory tries to warn her that something is off with the animatronics, but she ignores him, playing it off as a kids imagination, or just an excuse to get out of trouble. So, she heads to the security office to check on the security cameras, but on the way she hears Vanny's voice, before suddenly blacking out. Then the perspective shifts back to Gregory, and it's the same as it was in 2 PM, but without the Vannessa chat since she's well... not capable of doing so now. We manage to escape through the vents, and have to escape back to one of our hideouts without being spotted by the animatronics.
Nights 3 and 4 would be mostly the same as the base game, sneaking around, finding out more about the disappearances, having Freddy get broken, and then trying to track down parts to repair him with. During this time we get a message from Vannessa saying she believes us finally. She saw the footage of what occured on Night 2, and knows we aren't the culprit, but the target, and says she'll try and help us. We encounter Chica and get into a fight, ending with her getting crushed, this time in self defense, but also we hear her crying out in pain, and this time, she doesn't survive.
However we still get the sewer sequence. With who? The Prototype Endos. They'll be located here instead. Discarded, falling apart. Angry. With the lack of light and piles of junk the only true way to spot them is via their red eyes. It turns out after being in Night vision mode for so long, they can't stand the light, which Gregory will use to his advantage to escape. He'll head back to parts and services to find Freddy, but get Jumpscared by Roxy, only to be saved last minute by Vannessa, who manages to temporarily disable them using her Tazer. She escorts us to Freddy, and helps us repair him. After repairing him, Freddy says 'he feels a little off, but it's probably due to the new parts.' He asks Gregory where he got them from, and we get the same lie sequence involving Chica 'being alright'. This time it's framed more like Gregory being in denial about 'killing' her. He's just a kid after all.
Night 5 is where things change. This takes place straight after Night 4. Vannessa will be trying to help Gregory escape since 'this place isn't safe for a kid', telling him about the Security Badges and where to locate them, the closest one being the Security room near Roxy Raceway. What follows is the same as the Head Fetch Quest, with us restarting the power while having to dodge the animatronics and Music Man.
The next Security Badge is in the room up above Monty Golf, which Gregory can access through a vent from Mazercise. Again this follows the same story beats as the Monty Quest, but with a twist. For Mazercise you'll be playing as Vannessa at the controls, moving the walls around to get Gregory through while also blocking off the Animatronics closing in. Then Gregory gets the security badge, and encounters Monty. Vannessa tells Gregory how to defeat him using the Bucket. Monty still gets his lower half bisected off, and falls, but the impact of the bucket causes the walkway to collapse, and Gregory lands in one of the ponds below. Now you need to navigate your way out of the golf course while the still active Monty tries to find you, his new destroyed form hard to spot in the foliage and other decorations, but the same goes for you. You must navigate past security bots patrolling the pathways, while also keeping an eye out for movement in nearby bushes. Once you escape Freddy will be waiting for you. However Freddy is acting... off. He's not acting like his normal goofy innocent self. His friendliness feels fake. His movement lifeless and robotic. Figuring something is wrong, Gregory flees, while Freddy yells out for him to 'get back here!'. Gregory escapes, before the night ends.
Night 6 has you trying to collect the last couple security badges, while having to hide from Freddy, who is now actively hunting you down, in a twisted game of hide and seek. Unused Voicelines imply something like this would've occured in the original game, and it was just too good to not use here. Once you collect all the security badges, you have the ability to bypass the security shutters and leave. But just as you're about to leave you get a message from Vannessa saying she's figured out what's happened to the Animatronics, and that she can save Freddy. You'll need to meet her in her Security Office and bring the security badges with you. The Animatronics won't be able to get them due to it being marked as 'off limits'. Leaving plays the normal bad ending, but if you choose to stay...
It's strangely easy to make your way across the Pizzaplex. Outside of the security bots, there doesn't seem to be anyone attempting to capture you. If you can make your way through without triggering one you won't even see a single animatronic.
Vanessa explains what's going on as soon as you arrive at the security office, explaining that she's discovered a secret area below the Pizzaplex. Something the Fazbear Company tried to bury, right below this very area. There's a strange signal coming from there. It must be the source of whatever is controlling the animatronics. But then her voice and words start to become unstable as she questions how it's possible for someone to access the programs of the animatronics. After all, she's the only one capable of such a thing, and she didn't do it, right? She starts to ramble, talking about blackouts and how she'd wake up in a different location. And then... silence. Vanny is in control now. She claps her hands as Freddy comes in through the door and restrains you. She explains that she was the one behind Freddy's change. During the stage performance, he was supposed to have been hacked, much like the others, but instead he suffered a glitch that somehow freed him of 'their' control. But, then you came along, and gave her the perfect chance to 'fix' him, free access to his internals. All it took was installing the corrupted drives and parts of the other animatronics to bring him to her side, like all the rest. 'The Game is over'. Or... it would've been. The same 'Glitch' occurs within Freddy, as he manages to break out of her control and run off with you as you make your way into the Lazertag Maze, while Vanny Chases after you. You have to make your way through the maze while trying to avoid Vanny, who toys with you all the while. You eventually figure out where the entrance is, breaking through a gate marked off limits and descending down into the unknown, while Vanny pursues.
Night 7 involves Gregory and Freddy (who is struggling to resist the signal as they get closer to the source) making their way into the fake Pizza Restaurant of Pizza Simulator. Having to navigate its charred and destroyed remains, the vents and maze-like corridors, attempting to get the security doors open and access the office while Vanny attempts to stop you. While doing so you get attacked by Roxy, and Freddy, his safety protocols disabled by the virus, ends up attacking her to protect Gregory, accidentally leaving her broken and disabled. Gregory and Freddy reach the source of the Virus, a computer containing Glitchtrap, connected to the Pizzaplex Network. But before they can disable it, Vanny attacks. But a human in a bunny costume is no match for a animatronic bear. As a final resort, Vanny reactivates the 'Final Protocol' seem at the end of PS, to burn you, Freddy, and all evidence of her tampering to the ground. You flee, while she chuckles manically from her spot in the office. It's now that you encounter Roxy, blind, and without the virus disabled, still hunting for you. Same as in the original game, you trick her into helping you escape by breaking wooden boards or knocking down doors. A cutscene similar to the Afton Ending plays, with the duo escaping as the building collapses, also taking the lazertag maze down with it. Freddy collapses from a mixture of damage, lack of power, and exhaustion from fighting off the virus. As the smoke clears, Vanny's arm breaks out from the rubble, the Bunny Costumed antagonist staggering towards Gregory, before hugging him tightly, taking off her mask to reveal its Vannessa. Again the fire has purged Afton from this world, freeing her mind along with the other animatronics. But now she'll have to explain everything when people show up
The screen cuts to black , before fading to a image of Vannessa's Desk, with the classic pink slip and other Freddy's memorabilia, a VR headset off to one side, as the camera zooms in on a photo. A photo of her, Gregory, and Freddy sitting on a hill eating Ice cream. Then the credits roll.
I'm torn. On one hand, it was nice to get a happy ending for Gregory and Freddy, since it's the first ever relationship in the series we actually cared about...but on the other hand, I can't deny how impactful and tragic it would have been to lose our companion like that.
But if they're set on Freddy surviving the game, then they better use him. Otherwise what was the point? To be honest, at first I was glad Freddy and Gregory survived, that it wasn't another Boris situation where they give the player someone to get attached to then kill them in the cruelest and most predictable way possible
As someone who is very much a fan of the friendship between Gregory and Glam.Freddy, I still wish it hadn't come at the expense of the horror elements of the game. It feels more like a self-insert fanfic with elements of FNAF sprinkled into a roblox map. It had some genuinely scary moments (the early chase scenes with all three corrupted bandmates out for your blood nearly made me wet myself) but they were quickly taken over by stuff that was either outright cheesy, goofy, or just plain frustrating.
The amount of work you put in to rehabilitating this broken series, especially this entry, is astonishing and probably more than it's earned. Please tell me you're working on something of your own!
I wrote a couple of fantasy books, but my true passion is obsessing over animatronic bears. XD But thank you!
I agree! It really felt to me like the whole game was building up to Freddy eventually turning against Gregory (whether while under Vanny's control or not). There are so many story beats and voice line deliveries that seemed to hint at it. And him becoming corrupted as you upgrade him would also make sense, since the lore of the series places TONS of importance on animatronic pieces and endos having the soul bits (if possession is still relevant but at this point Steel Wool seems to want to abandon the supernatural and go more sci-fi).
I wish they had just postponed the game long enough to animate a shattered Freddy ending. They almost did. The Vanny ending could've been exactly the same just with Shattered Freddy's presence, a short cutscene of Greg running/hiding from all 4, and then it plays out like usual.
I also like the theory that Gregory and Freddy got smooshed in the true ending. Shocked I haven't heard others theorize about it tbh. But you're right; idk if Steel Wool has the gonads to commit to it lol.
This is going to be very long, so please hear this out:
I was going to say that I don't think it's too late to add this. I mean, I agree with Gregory becoming... delusional in his anger through trauma. You have William, who's son died. Vanessa who's seen her mother die. And now Gregory who sees the one person there for him become shattered. William finally broke the only two good characters: Gregory and Freddy.
If you're playing as a kid for DLC, it makes perfect sense for another kid to lure you. Just how William uses his bunny suit to lure you in. As for Freddy becoming shattered. I mean, in the DLC, all of them will be shattered. I think that it'd be perfect that Freddy is now evil, and Chica would be the ally.
You see Chica just standing there. Also, she's the only other animatronic that seems to care about her fellow band members, checking on Freddy and keeping a bowling ball in memory of Bonnie. You hear her crying, and she's more glitchy than the other two. She would have to be more forced to comply with the hack, as Roxy and Monty both already have a motive to attack Gregory and Chica doesn't.
Sorry this is long, bear with me:
Roxy and Monty are both replacements for Glamrock Foxy (he is shown in DLC trailer) and Glamrock Bonnie. The only "original" characters is Freddy and Chica. The only ones who seem to care. Bonnie seemed to also be portrayed as caring, hints why William is so eager to destroy him. Chica is also a very important character in the FNAF lore. She's one of the first to die in the hands of William, she has her own novella solely about her journey from a human child to an animatronic.
It seems like the DLC main character is a little girl. And from the DLC tailers, the original Glamrocks are coming back. AND, part of it shows CHICA and FREDDY. The ONLY ONES to show any empathy and fighting the influence of William Afton!
So, why did I write this hellishly long comment that I doubt anyone will read? Well, as I said, I don't think it's too late for what the video says. Freddy is smashed and hacked. The only other animatronic that seems to have good in them is Glamrock Chica. So, I think it's a perfect follow up theme that Gregory joins Vanny and William (as Vanny does kidnap him in one of the endings) through his anger and trauma (like Vanessa and William have experienced). Freddy will now hunt the female child. and Chica, the only other animatronic that seems to carry empathy becomes out new ally. And lastly, the original Glamrocks come back to see Chica smashed and their valued friend, Freddy, shattered and hacked.
That took me TOO LONG to type. :'D Well, that is my thought. I think it's definitely not too late.
Agree, but what DLC trailers? I don't think Ruin's had any trailers.
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 Oh, do you want me to show you some links? They aren't official, but they don't seem fan made, sense they all have the same clips.
i like the idea of freddy actually being good, like the “soul” of the robot is good, but that getting overpowered by aftons programming. i think it would’ve been a cooler idea to have shattered freddy than just afton coming back. while you’re playing the game, you’re suspicious at first that freddy is being kind bc, yknow, it’s a fnaf game. but then you start to get comfortable around him and you start trusting him, and then all of a sudden that thought in the back of your brain saying “don’t trust freddy” is right. and also like you pointed out, this would’ve given motive for gregory to be “evil”. i have a theory that scott cawthon just doesn’t understand that pretty much everything anyone does has a motive. ESPECIALLY murder. afton having no canon motive has always bugged me, and it seems like scott has just been following that trend
They should have kept shattered freddy. It's such a cool concept that Gregory's "Upgrades" to Freddy, caused the Feral/angry and shattered animatronics to tear apart their friend in search for the part that was stolen from them. Also Minor Greggy-boy thoughts: Gregory always walks a fine edge between "realistic child character" and... "not realistic at all there's something wrong with him" .... And like... Idk... I weirdly like both sides of his character on that... but I feel it wasn't consistent, cause I think certain things were changed in development, so some sections you have an early version of Gregory who is quiet, and scared, and then other sections he flips on a dime to sassy and annoyed and a manipulative shit lol (but manipulative/lying as a child would)
Same with Vanessa. In the final game she's a real piece of work, but in the cut lines and trailer lines, she was initially supposed to be 'sweet and helpful'. So, likely some part of this is because of a change of plans.
Wholeheartedly agree with Shattered Freddy being the gutpunch all the build up of safety and security this game NEEDED to stick the landing AS a horror title.
TBH, the unfinished portions of the Pizzaplex, the signs of a scrapped and reworked storyline, and the BRILLIANT early game character development we get to see screams to me that What Could Have Been was... well, Shattered By Crunch.
Someone said "Deadline's Next Month" without consulting anyone who ACTUALLY KNEW how much longer they needed to finish, and came with a list of If You Don't Remove X, Y, and Z your game is gonna get an M rating and have its sale to people under 16 years old resticted.
So now you gotta Finish The Game and Make A Laundry List Of Content Changes to secure a T rating from the ESRB. With the same resources you already had. And a Looming Deadline.
When devs need more time, they should get more time. If Security Breach had gotten a year more? GOD I wish I could play THAT game.
Crunch is the fault of bad management and cost cutting; resulting in impossible demands against a deadline that could not realiatically be reached.
I hope management improves. This team clearly is SKILLED, and when it works? IT *WORKS!* But that means someone over at Steel Wool / whatever management layer exists needs to show up to make a GAME, not a PRODUCT. Otherwise we'll probably get more endings that land with a *thud.*
Words cannot express how much I wish we could know what Steel Wool intended the full plot for Security Breach to be. So many small strings and details that would make sense connected but were lost to the cuts leaving only broken remains. It's actually almost poetic that the plot ended up just like the animatronics.
I personally don't see why they even bother trying to make the game kid friendly. Even kids are able to tell that the animatronics brutally kill you if you get caught.
A shattred GlamRock Freddy chasing Gregory around the Pizza Plex with the intent to kill would of made a thrilling boss battle, akin to the DJ MM chase, but it's more haunting because Freddy's cracked voice begs you to come back to him. It's a dam shame, and would really re direct the game back to horror, coz holy heck, those unused voices are horrifying.
This reminds me of the video of a re-imagined alternate ending of Security Breach where William actually took control of G.F. and it clearly showed he was in pain as he fought against being forced to kill Gregory.
Turns out the Shattered Freddy scene was the One Scene They Should Not Have Killed.
Good pun. And that's coming from an Undertale fan.
Fuck yeah new NotRealName video!!! I've been looking forward to this, as I'm not nearly as involved in the fandom as i used to be and the Shattered Freddy stuff went right under my radar lmao
Side note: you're actually the reason i finally watched 9 a few weeks ago, i loved it!
That's great! 8D Y'know, there was actually supposed to be not just a sequel, but more movies. Alas, those plans ended up getting scrapped. I would've liked to see what the plan was from there on.
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 I had no idea! As much as i think the film works pretty well as a stand-alone, i now mourn what we could've gotten lol
Who knows, maybe one day something could get picked back up (as hopeless as it may seem), at least the fanbase seems to still be going strong :D
God those shattered Freddy voice lines are GREAT. It’s such a shame we never got to see them in the actual game
I really wish there was an evil Freddy moment. Maybe he says something like "oh no Gregory I can't control myself" and then all the lights turn off coming towards you then you see a mouth and eyes light up and hear the iconic Toreador March....
I find it kinda stupid that steel wool cesnored the word blood meanwhile they practically make us watch vanny get brutally torn apart by staff bots. We see what they did to freddy and we know they did it to vanny too
Well, given that it’s April 3rd, we’ve got a little bit of time to see what the ruin dlc brings about, comes I’m really hoping they bring back not only cut areas but also the cut story sequences
Although I like the take on Freddy being our ally in Security Breach, it would have been fun to allow the player to pick which animatronic character they could have for an ally to help us, with their capabilities and shortcomings.
We can ride only in Freddy, Chica can use her voice box to make the others back off, Monty can fight them with his claws, and Roxy can spot things and guide Gregory to safety (for Chica, Monty, and Roxy we can switch between being able to control them Vs Gregory who would also be controlled by the game.
Gregory is one of my favorite characters, so the crying audio hurts SO MUCH. aargh
I'm working on a SB rewrite, and major thing I did was to have all the animatronics start friendly. Basically use Sun and Moons mechanic for them so they would still be threats at points. The main gist is that the story starts out as a Nancy Drew like mystery. With Gregory staying after hours because of rumors he heard. Through out the game by interacting with the animatronics and even Vanessa. He would find out more about the plex. Then the game would slowy merge from Mystery Comedy to Tradedgy Horror. All the while the animatronics would become more and more corrupt. To a point where they never turn back again, or the glitch puppeting them is smart and can act friendly. Forcing Gregory to shatter them when he's put into peril. Eventually making Gregory reliant on the one ally who has been immune. Freddy.
Now originally I wanted to challenge myself to make it so that it could still work with the Ruins DLC. (Which is why I still have is use afton and the blob despite hating them). Mainly turn SB ending from a sharp left turn. To something that was actually foreshadowed and a satisfying end to the mystery. With Ruins being the epilogue.
Now I'm about to say f*ck that and make Freddy shattered at the end too. Cause to start the game with a whole cast of friends. Then end it utterly scared and alone.
That would make the tradegy of the ending hit even harder.
You ate right. Freddy as a suprise villian hits hard because we spent most of the game trusting him. Being with him. I've seen people admit that even though they hated the idea of Freddy being an ally. He did grow on them and became one of the few parts of SB they liked. I think it would be funny if the people wishing for a more traditional FNAF horror. Had this monkey paw wish happen. Where they do get that old FNAF horror of Freddy being a threat. At the cost of a character they had learned to love.
S. Freddy is probably the highest concept thing this franchise has seen since…Ennard, probably. It works on multiple levels, and it’s a wonderful demonstration of Cerebus Syndrome.
That’s a whole thing with Afton, isn’t it? The player rarely firsthand experiences how heartless he is. First time where we, as the player, experience on-site the repercussions of his monstrous actions and see how much damage he leaves in his wake. This…almost feels more fit for an RPG sort of plot twist, especially with using old bosses techniques that you used to use all the time against a less capable player character, causing you to hate the villain and feel for the characters more. An ACTUAL RPG based off these games that gave 0 fucks about lore would go hard, really.
If Robo-Gregory happens to be real, it may possibly be the dumbest thing this franchise has pulled since the FNAF 4 box.
I predicted this plot point would happen way back when the trailer came out, and expressed how awesome it would be if he was a trusting companion turned uncontrollable robotic villain, and the mental anguish that had the potential to cause.
But noooooo, ofc not.. i really wish they kept it.
The reason Freddy is actually friendly is that he is in Safe Mode. Which could be the mode the animatronics are put on during parties and shows.
WHY DID THEY CACEL THIS MASTERPIECE? Freddy getting ruined by his peers and becomign evil is the perfect finally!
It's funny how both gregory and Cassie have voice lines of prolonged crying after their animatronic friend is harmed, I wonder if steel wool took inspiration from the cut Gregory crying for Cassies own sad girl segment. It is also interesting that notrealnameatall mentioned that it would be cool to have Shattered freddy appear in fazerblast for a final confrontation, as ruin has something very similar to whatever that protype dude is.
They must’ve cut Shattered Freddy because of Gregory’s crying track. It’s awful. 😂 Can the mess that was Security Breach possibly be cleaned up by Ruin? I have some hope since it’s been development almost as long as the original game. Himbo Freddy is a fan favorite and will probably be somehow brought back for that reason alone. Excellent content as usual, you really illustrated the lost potential here.
Watching all these videos about all of the cut content in Security Breach really makes it feel like it was so rushed that they didn’t even have time to finish anything substantial. Like there seems to be an unfinished story, unfinished gameplay, unfinished environments, etc… Was there anything finished in Security Breach?
I thought those screams were from the Staff Bots shattering Freddy and not him lmao
The problem is that it sounds like only one voice screaming. So, that could've been the intention, but they should've maybe laid a few more voices over it.
Hm. I imagine that Shattered freddy would still want to protect Gregory, in a warped way. He'd try to force Gregory into his stomach hatch... Despite that hatch being broken, with wires and sharp metal sticking out
That is terrifying and excellent.
the only "scary" and redeeming part of freddy from what we got is how much he breaks the game, like when he ran right past markiplier in his playthrough
big bear is famous bc he is kind and a meme cuz he's a game breaking character, i WISH we got the shattered freddy plotline ughhhhhh it would have been so wonderfully painful and terrifying
Personally I believe that the shattered design for Monty is based on his pride he believed that he could stand on his own two feet and now a child has left him with not even a toe
Nothing clever to say just happy you uploaded :)
I just wanna say that this video and your content in general are absolutely amazing and really high quality. The theories you talk about and how you try to make sense of the story have introduced me to new view points of all the mess FNAF's lore is that I never even thought about. You are doing great work for this community and I just want you to know that I appreciate that.
D'aww, thank you so much! 8D It really means a lot to me to hear, and I'm going to keep going!
Being real, I think why they didn't do it is cause our last animatronic companion, at least to me, was Circus Baby, and of course we know how much of a superstar Michael was to her.
I do understand Freddy and Baby are different, I just think steel wool didn't understand that, and that might be why they pushed himbo wholesome freddy as much as possible, to make him his own thing, unlike anyone before him.
With all the buildup the did through the game, giving him the pieces that made him more dangerous, making the player feel safe when protected by Freddy, I have to assume him turning was part of the plot until some higher up complained that since it’s a fnaf game the bad guy has to be springtrap again or the game wouldn’t sell. Pizzeria simulator was clearly meant to be an ending for the afton storyline and a chance Scott created to have new villains and they chose to go back to springtrap again
Having the shattered animatronics in game was a little like seeing the withereds along with the toys in fnaf 2. What, this new look isn't scary? Bam! How's that?
i really love that freddy is friendly, but its a horror game, this fits super well!
I'm always super happy when you upload. You're not as loud as other FNAF RUclipsrs so your videos are calming to me, and you're not afraid to say what you think instead of blindly agreeing with whatever popular theorists say. Honestly you're my favorite FNAF RUclipsr, thank you for the banger content ❤️
I wish this happened but I understand why they didn't add it.
Did we want more delays? Scott literally made fury's rage because the game got delayed so much.
Well, yeah. The game was only in development for about two years. Those 'delays' were actually the bear minimum for a game of this size, which explains why they were still changing maps. AAA games with full maps and models simply can't be made in the same time as the original thirty minutes to an hour FNAF titles.
If we would've gotten full development time, we would've gotten the full game.
The only reason the game got rushed out in the first place was because they got intimidated from the possibility of the game most likely never coming out and trimmed off as much as they could to make it fit for a holiday release
Just hearing those voice lines made me shiver and tear up a little. Imagine actually having played through the whole game and then having this plot twist dropped in. Would have been amazing and even if everything else about the game was the same, I would have forgiven it if this plot was in there.
It’s so weird how much story clearly was planned for the game and how the final product has basically zero story at all. Wander around the mall for hours, a bunny girl appears for about 10 seconds, Afton is back again, there’s a big animatronic blob aaaand before you have time to ask what’s going on here the game is over.
The big problem I have with discussions of Shattered Freddy is the assumption that it would "be better". Bear Dad is a huge part of the experience, and it would have required an enormous amount of time, material, and luck to make taking him away at all satisfying to most players. You can't just have a "scary twist"; large changes like that need to be engaging on their own, and just throwing out dual protector dynamic would have lowered the narrative stakes.
It definitely _could_ work (my ideal would be it leading into the Parts and Services section), but "could" is often not strong enough when you only have so much time and space for your story.
Agree, but the alternative is that there's just not really a third act, y'know? There could've been an alternative- like instead of Shattered Freddy, having a Shattered Bonnie replacing that core emotional moment- but there had to be something.
Honestly, I feel that a lot of the groundwork required to make the twist work was already laid down pretty well. Most people have theorised and would have accepted the possibility of Freddy becoming corrupted by the upgrades. There's also the fact that every animatronic in every other game has been hostile to you, making a twist like this feel just at home (after all, Baby pretty much just betrayed us in Sister Location). Just throw in some foreshadowing in the environment and dialogue and they're golden
@@hanhong2267 i feel like freddy being unnerved seeing endoskeletons foreshadows this pretty well. Doesnt he have a whole crisis about being replaced and his memories being wiped? Or he at least implies that’s an uncomfy thought for him. It’s been a while lol. But it seems like it fits this storyline rlly well
Incredible. Only after watching your edit at the end the emptional weight of this scene hit me like a truck. Freddy's desperately fighting an uphill battle for sanity of his friends "Don't listen to her! Resist!" Only for the hope to be shattered (hehe) by Vanny's cold "Disassemble Freddy" right after. Brilliant!
With all of the info prior to release, I was under the impression that Gregory was to be Vanessa's first kill. Her right of initiation as it were and proof to Afton of her loyalty. Which would've easily explained his presence in the pizzaplex and his need to escape, as well as his overall mistrust of Vanessa.
She picked him out from all of the other candidates and abducted him off site to avoid unwanted scrutiny. Stashed him away in the pizzaplex, awaiting an appropriate time to release him in order to hunt him down to complete her initiation without interference or witnesses.
Been hyped for this
So much about the game is bittersweet. It's a very interesting game and story with TONS of potential and it's just..... the absolute bare basics of what was required, with everything possible that could make it have depth taken out of it. I love the context of the fatal flaws for each of the characters, and the concept of "constructing a monster". The game made it very clear that the upgrades given to the other animatronics were an element in their corruption, and it seemed clear throughout the game that giving them to Freddy would likely make him corrupted too. He gets uglier and dirtier as the night progresses, clearly leading to something. And then it just... ends? He's just his same old self but kinda uglier? It's a complete fumble
This has happened to me quite a bit with this channel but this especially felt like I was watching a RUclipsr video written by me, I really enjoyed watching this, keep up the great work!
they kinda repurposed the emotional factor to this in ruin with the roxy deactivation thing
A very good video, one of your best with that ending put together, and doubly impressive considering the change-of-plans thing.
I LOVE this video great job
If I could turn back time I would tell steelwool to take as much time as they need to fully realise their original vision for this game. I would also warn the community that they will live a life of emptiness if security breach isn't given the time it needs to be perfect.
Man I wish we have the story damn this part of the story is tragic and sad poor Freddy he had the witnesses friends get damaged from this kid and he still stays by him and then gets torn apart in the end by his torn apart friends damn this is kind of sad and tragic.
after not seeing security breach gameplay in a long time, the shattered animatronic renders are actually pretty scary. freddy in particular is terrifying to imagine in-game. I’d love nothing more than to see these characters used in a game that deserves them
What a shame that we didn’t get to see it ingame.
4:11 I remember in MatPats play through he mentioned something about "idk how comfortable I am upgrading Freddy so much, what if he turns on me?" and he would've predicted one of the biggest plot twists in the game… if the game was finished
Edit : Great video btw, your point about the story being un-emotional and un-inspired especially to a new FNaF fan was really good and really well said, despite it being unscripted
Shattered Freddy sure had a great potential. Also thank you for reconstructing the voice lines, they are bone-chilling!
What do you think of the Princess Quest ending, where Vanessa is freed from the virus? You didn't mention it here, so I was wondering.
I like the ending! Though because of the popularity of Vanny, I don't really imagine any chance of it being canon. I wish it was though. I think bringing Vanessa back as a playable character could be a really neat opportunity.
God that Shattered Freddy plot line with Gregory becoming GGY would have been so good!!! I don’t want Gregory to be a secret scumbag! I want him to be secretly getting his friend back! It would also explain why he’s so good at hacking, because he’s trying to fix Freddy and the others band mates!
Great vid as always, I wasn't aware of all the implications the shattering of Freddy could've had on the plot "Gregory being evil and all that."
Also in terms of "True ending", im also surprised the Burntrap one is real and not the "Free Vanessa" one, but hey, more potential for Vanny in Ruin so I ain't complaining.
Also, I still think Shattered Freddy could return in Ruin, but the impact it would have would be lessened, yeah (especially if you don't play as Gregory)
Also wait, is 12:52 really from the graphic novel? Bc "I'm the whole ham sandwich" sounds way too funny to be real ngl.
Nah, I edited the ham sandwich line. XD But it's close enough.
Man I just clicked and I gotta say, I love these videos. I'm glad I subbed to you
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Freddy should've thrown hands with the others tbh
If this was a cutscene it would probably be after we disassembled vanny while we’re STILL in her room and then we would hear Shattered Freddy saying “Gregory…” while he walks towards vanny’s hideout, then gregory tries to hide in the corner of the room but Freddy finds him and all the glamrocks corner him (it would kind of look like the halloween sale art of SB but all the animatronics would be facing gregory) and the camera would focus on gregory with tears in his eyes. [Cuts off to black]
It is nice to see someone critical of the fnaf lore on youtube.