Sony ZV-E10 II Review: Exceptional Value... But There’s a Catch!
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
- Review of the Sony ZV-E10 II mirrorless camera, an intriguing entry point to the FX30 sensor, but with some overheating caveats.
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Review of the Sony ZV-E10 II mirrorless camera, an intriguing entry point to the FX30 sensor, but with some overheating caveats.
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0:00 - Intro & Disclosure
0:35 - The Sensor
1:03 - Improvements
2:12 - Streaming
2:49 - ZV Features
4:28 - Overheating
8:51 - Final Thoughts
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Hey! You used my intro, thanks Gerald!
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@@CoalitionGaming I can only count to four!
the wisdom imparted in the final thoughts. it should be a staple of every reviewer and consumer. The endless discussions we have outside of that, produce nothing but a waste of time. Respect.
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Glad I switched my main cam to the A6700 back in December. It’s worth the extra $400, and at the same time you get a better hybrid camera with the A6700. And as much as I’ve seen things about that camera overheating, I’ve never actually been able to get it to overheat. The A6700 is a better buy.
Bro can you suggest me a good camera and piece of glass for photography majorly and little bit video graphy.
Budget is 800-1000$.🙂
Big Gerald, did I miss the section on stabilisation? The lack of IBIS and only cropped digital stabilisation are big negatives, surely? Also, a better comparison when talking about price is the A6700, which is much cheaper than the FX30 but has 4K 120p, an EVF and IBIS. I think that it's $400 more than this camera but what you get for it seem worth it.
Still overheats, but this camera is aimed at vlogging and content creating. I’d say the A6700 is probably the best value camera with the most features. I’d personally get an FX30 with an A6700 for stills and AI features and the fan is so important for reliability.
I’d also guess the A6700 also overheats like crazy too. Gerald should test with external batteries to see if the issue can be improved.
@@ags911 dummy batteries are the solution
@@ags911 what can this camera do that the a6700 can’t?
It simply has a faster readout than the A6700
You're always the first review that I watch. Now you are even ahead Sony. Fantastic!
same here
I'm so glad you still do these reviews in this style. While I appreciate your other video content I was really worried this format was going away. I know it's a lot of work, but we sure love it.
As an owner of two zve-10 I can really champion this form factor/model variant. Nowadays, I use them for streaming, although they have been used to film various corporate projects with no hesitation. Realistically, the mark 1 is still great, warts and all. If I was being asked to recommend a camera to someone I wouldn't hesitate in mentioning this for most users, as most people over imagine their use of cameras.
I mean, I know this isn't a camcorder, but if I'm buying a video-centric camera, I would expect it to not overheat, which is why I would go for the FX30. If your just looking for a social media camera where you probably aren't recording for extended periods, awesome buy. Essentially what you summarized at the end. Thanks for the vid.
Thats what thr ev10 lineup is for. Quick photos, quick videos and compact for capturing candid moments on vacations. I prefer not to use my smartphone because the battery gets drain quickly so using a dedicated camera like an ev10 works best
If the FX30 had Smooth Skin effect I would get rid of my 3 ZV-E1 and replace all of them with FX3/30
@@simoz78learn how to use davinci resolve. There’s an automatic tracking beauty feature
@@simoz78 That would be nice. I mean you can do that in post, but yeah, one more step not needed and go straight to your media platform. Especially since you can import your LUT etc.
Well Smallrig has a fan for this.
Thanks a lot for the extended overheating review. Would be great if you could come up with a chart comparing different camera systems according to sensor size that you have tested over the years :D
Great overview! Thanks for going into such detail.
Great video Gerald! I still love the OG intro ... lets keep it ;)
I own the original ZV-E10, and it's still a solid camera that I have used to film hours upon hours of A roll, B roll, and behind the scenes content for my college course (film student). I also have it plugged into a camlink and mounted on my desk when I'm on discord calls, outputting 4K25 S-Log2 for hours on end, in a room that depending on the time of year and how long my PC's been running can vary from 17C to 27C. Not once has this thing ever overheated in its almost 2 years of continuous use.
I've also got an FX30, not used as much cause I got it later on, but when I have used it, admittedly not in massively taxing conditions yet, the cooling system worked, and that camera has not overheated for me either.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that the ZV-E10 II is a disappointment.
Great job on the video Gerald! Thanks for making it. That audio is totally usable using just the built-in pick-ups.
I like seeing you're back in the workshop environment. Nice!
Noice, Sonys announcement stream is still on the countdown xD
they waitinf for the cameras to cooldown
link?
The review i was waiting on 🔥
Very comprehensive overheating tests!! Well done. So, to avoid direct sun, gotcha!
Yes. Sony will soon start selling a mini umbrella to attach it in to the hot shoe😂
Gerald which codec and settings did you film your Overheating tests in? And was it all done in 10-bit 4:2:2? Thanks for making this video homie!
I literally watched your Mark I review this morning and pulled out of pulling the trigger haha
How can he post before the official announcement 😂
Well official announcement on the website was quoted at 16:00 CEST which was 6 minutes ago
Hi's crazy ❤🤗
Things got undone quick
how can she slap!
Illuminati confirmed
The outro is really sick, man. I can’t stop dancing
Thorough review as always! Also you were amazing in Dark Matter. Can’t wait for season 2
LOVE the new heating test
great review as always
I love that music at the end. Sometimes, I'll have a craving for it, and I'll search it out.
LOVE the vertical mode!
so its a "worse 6700"
Sony: Lets put a 2h battery on it.
- Overheats in 11 min.
Remember that the overheating times is with the camera on. if you start /stop recording and just record 10 sec clips, but the camera stays on between, it will still overheat in those 15-60min.
I have never seen a review like this, Thank u
Way too overpriced. A6700 is way better value with IBIS and AI
And also don't forget to a6700 has a EDF is weather sealed it has a mechanical shutter and it has the same dynamic range as a Sony a7r 5 in crop mode
That outro was soo weirdly satisfying
They are so good! What is the name of that effect ? :)
UNDONE! I saw this before the RUclips notification dropped.
Cool! Thanks for sharing it. ✌️
Thank you for the great video. The overheating tests are very helpful! the ZVE10 II won't work for me in summer as I stream for at least 90min. I guess I will just upgrade to the FX30. Thank you!
Another grat review from Gerald,
Not a camera for me (but I'm sure some will love it). Just dropped in to say you are the best, Gerald. You're analysis is second to none.
would be interested in the overheating comparison with the a6700 as mine overheats in a 25C indoor (4K/24) setup in just 35-40 minutes (with USB-power attached, battery door opened). I have to use the ulanzi cooler attached to it to have an unlimited runtime. It looks like this ZV-E10II does better.
how is the electronic stabilization compared to the IBIS of a6700?
The vertical menu needs to come to a6700!!
Thanks for the thorough review for the overheating test! This mark II cuts the IBIS, the heat dissipation in exchanging the extreme lightweight body, which is ridiculous. Without effective IBIS, the gimbal contributes a significant in weight, defeat the purposes of holistic lightweight 😅
Vertical Info Display is cool! Hope it will be also available with firmware update to other models like ZV-E1, FX3 or A7Siii
U wish 😢
Hands Down - thee best reviewer. 👍😎
Great moment to grab a cheap ZV-E10!
Good thing to see this device!
Great job on the overheating tests! It is a somewhat odd combination of features with the good internal MIC but no IBIS for vloggers.
The biggest issue people had was overheating. It still overheats. I’ll wait for MKIII lol 😂
Nice Gerald, always trusting your insights, especially around the ZV-E10 ;) Can you confirm the Sony ZV-E10II has the function auto ISO/Min SS? The original ZV-E10 didn't have this for some reason. Thanks!
Yo! Can you please do a review of the DJI focus pro. With certain equipment, your reviews are the only ones that I trust.
This feels like a good intro to Sony camera system. The last camera I bought was the Canon 6D. Mark 1.
The chances of me looking at this camera and you reviewing this 24 hours ago is insane
Is the overheating table testing 4:2:2 10-bit mode? Can you get similar results to mk1 if you use 4:2:0 8-bit in warmer envs?
This looks like a great feature set and the image looked good, but the handheld clips not so. As a vlogging camera I'd expect that to be buttery smooth. Thanks for the excellent review, especially the overheating breakdown.
Thanks for this. It sounds like an ideal camera for me: I am always working indoors for video (I might also take this camera on holiday, frankly, it looks handy for that, but won't be shooting video clips longer than a minute or two) and really fancy a camera that is small and light, gets a good runtime off the battery, and - obviously - turns in good image performance. I seldom record anything longer than 10 minutes in one shot so in my worst-case scenario can't see overheating being an issue. Horses for courses and all that.
Love this video! Quick question that no one is addressing. Does the sony zv-e10 cage fit the new sony zv-e10ii?
Not a sandwich? Now you tell me! *BRRRRrrrrap!* :) Excellent review as always.
With the a6500 I noticed the overheating only happens with picture profiles turned on. Fun fact what I used to do is put one of those cooling gel pads on it to get through a wedding ceremony 😅
Thank you, great review into the overheating issues. I might just get the A7iv, it's full frame, it has an EVF, it has IBIS, it has dual memory card slots and I believe the overheating issue is less of a problem, all for $500 more.
Mediocre value. Shouldn't have removed IBIS. Better get a6700 or FX30.
EV10 mark I is the camera that my workplace use, and while we only shoot 1080p30 on it, the fw50 still drains pretty quickly, we got at most 1 Hour 15 minutes of continues recording. it's nice to see the Mark II uses the bigger and better battery! :D
can't wait for E10 mark I to get a huge discount so i can finally buy it for my personal camera LOL
Thanks for the video! helped a lot!
How's the ZV-E10ii vs iPhone 15 Pro? considering upgrade now to a real camera for youtube videos.
Is it possible to test it for Timelapse overheating? I managed to overheat my A6700 while TL for about 1.5 hours in direct sunlight. I am wondering if ZVE10ii can even handle it. Could you please shed some light on that?
I live in Thailand so most of year, the temp is about 33-40C. So, do you think I should get this for travel vlogs and photography including time lapse.
Since being under the sun has such a huge impact on overheating and recording times, I'm wondering if the white colored version will perform better! It would be great if you could do all the same testing with both versions and see if the results vary. Thanks.
Overheating can be solved via the dummy (or firmware I guess), so no biggie for me as I rig my current ZV-1 mk1 anyway.
For the price tho it's an insane upgrade and great offering that will help me with my content tremendously (my current A7 III is too bulky and not as feature-rich in video). Good job, Sony. And thank you for finding out quirks with this camera, Gerald!
so turn a small camera into a big camera with external power, great! also, would still have to prove that the dummy battery actually solved the problem. for pro shoots, overheating is 100% no no and would never risk the embarrassment.
Your review's are always helpful you helped with the a6600 we use 3 for filming weddings, I don't like the over heating the a6600 does not .
Thank you for this review. This is probably a dumb question (and maybe I missed you mentioning it), but did you do any tests on just the camera operation without recording? Looking at these for secondary cameras for a streaming environment. Is it just in the recording where these cameras are overheating?
With such an overheating difference in direct sunlight, I'd be very interested to learn if the white body option would perform better.
No Ibis, no EVF, removed the mechanical shutter, but gets a $200 price jump from ZVE10. Exceptional value indeed. /s
It goes 4k10bit 422, change in newest menu, better AF, change in better battery. I believe youre low in inteligence if you makin jokes of it.
Uh hence the “But with a catch.” Reading comprehension must be hard…
@@yoginwidhi6676And S cinetone
The first version was like one of the worst cameras Sony ever made. All the reviews footage I saw from it was Jello'd out of control and it looked horrible. This thing is actually usable as long as you don't need to record for more than an hour at a time.
idk how fast this sensor is but pretty sure its not fast enough to be a 100% replacement of mechanical shutter.
also you cant expect ibis on an entry level APS-C camera but i agree that there shouldn’t be a price jump. its still gonna sell like hot cakes cause there is a blind following of sony by the youtubers.
Hi Gerald, can you heat test cameras using dummy batteries to keep the battery heat away from the camera? There are dummy batteries available for just about any camera, so this is a legitimate way for any camera to extend recording times before overheating.
its the sensor that overheats, not the battery.
No mechanical ibis, big crops. I know, intended market but intended market would like to shoot well stabilised footage at 60fps without a 50% crop.
You might as well buy the excellent Nikon Z30 and save 40%.
Or save up and get the superlative ZVE1 or if you can’t afford that really try to save $400 as others say and get the MUCH better A6700.
I feel Sony went behind with this camera. As stated, the Nikon Z30 I’d rather have, and suspect the new Nikon and Canon cameras in the line will really blow this away.
This makes the Sony A6700 more attractive to be honest..
i was just looking at the original zv-e10 as a downscale for me so i can focus more on myself, and with the e10II it might be the right one
6:26 Which camera do I need if I live in a place with a summer temperature of 45 C?
I really wish they set the HDMI output at 10-bit, that would make it a no-brainer for studio stuff. What a strange but functional lil’ guy. 😂
Great review - thanks!
Great video 😎 can the ZV-E10 II accepts external timecode ?
Next introduction: I’m Gerald undone and potato jet looks like the boy from up
For social media where most videos are within the 1 minute mark, this camera is unbeatable.
Hi Mark, this is a great review, Definitely gonna order it. I have a question though. Which Picture Profile would you recommend is the best suited for this camera (as well as ZV-E10 Mark I)? I've been shooting in HLG3 & 2 with the old one....
Who is Mark?
Embargo but not, RESPECT! 🔥 Love the info in these.
Just saw another youtuber's video and they had no overheating issues. Makes me wonder if there's a drastic variability between models. Definitely feels like one will need an aftermarket fan for the zve10 ii though.
"I'm Gerald Undone, and *insert camera pun here*"
interestingly, when you know exactly your use case - I would argue that you are using the equipment professionally and thus you can spend more (unless you have to buy, say, 10 or 100 of these cameras and then every penny counts).
Otherwise, if you are just using your camera for fun - it is no fun when it stops working.
I'm shooting k-pop cover dance performances, they are usually (99%) are done in public and about 50% happen at 2-4 PM
My a7 iv stopped working after second take (it was +31C I think) at 4k60p, had to switch to 30p
Not sure what I wanted to say, but I'd say I really respect Gerald for being so thorough. I've seen other reviews and yes, at 23C it runs forever, but come on, billions of people live in places where 21C is considered cold, lol
Would it be possible to use a dummy battery to help with overheating?
Right now. A used A6700 costs 200-300 more than the launch price of this one and gives you mechanical shutter, mechanical is, evf, a weather sealed body and twice the framerates.
It’s neat, no doubt, but it doesn’t beat the 6700 for value imo. Especially as you can get deals or buy used.
Facts
And don't forget that the Sony a6700 has the same dynamic range as a Sony A7R V in crop crop mode
I bought a6700 used for $1075 last year. It'd be even cheaper now.
@frankfeng2701 It jumps up and down on ebay. Funny thing I paid that same price for my a6400 4 years ago. Still uses it too
Should I go for this one or the a6700?
So it’s a 1000$ webcam that overheats, nah I’m good. I’ll take the fx30 any day if it means I don’t have to be paranoid about temperature.
Thank you for your video. I'm looking for a camera option for streaming through Streamyard or directly onto RUclips. I was able to use my Canon 90D until I updated my apple software. Canon hasn't come out with software that works with the new update. My setting is always in my studio and my livestreams can run long. Is this a camera you would recommend? I'm streaming beauty content and would like my viewers to see details. Can you recommend a lens and camera you think would be best for my needs? Thank you.
I should mention I have basic knowledge when it comes to cameras. I wish I had help with settings. OH, and I would use a dummy battery.
Apparently they launched it at 1850 AUD in Australia. Now down a smidge but still a price that makes no sense compared to the 1000 USD in the US.
Hm. This is the first zve10 ii review that says it overheats. Other reviewers said it lasted 3+ hours until they got bored and quite. Never overheated. Hmmm. It very rarely hits as low as 88° here. Sounds like the camera was not designed for outdoor use? We got as cold as 103° at 2:00am a few days ago. I appreciate the more honest review with a fair comparison. I think I'll hold onto my ZV-E10 for a while longer (it's barely a month old).
What is the name of the effect at the end of your videos please sir? :) it’s like a vynal record turns into a trippy LSD milky chocolate sauce haha
I REALLY appreciate the overheating tests. Example: we are currently looking for a camera for our youth group and we are in Texas shooting summer camp. Our direct sunlight is going to be 100F and above in very normal circumstances. Seeing an 11 minute time frame between 70-80F just tells me this thing will cook like an egg in our world 😂
I often see people state “but you won’t see that in normal temperatures” but if you live basically anywhere in the south or along the equator normal temperatures are like an oven.
So docs, outdoor weddings, camps, you name it, it’s a daily occurrence to film outside in the summer for some of us. Thanks for including overheating info because for us it’s one of the most critical parts of the camera. Fans create issues as well because of dust and rain, here in TX weather can go from flood to hot summer day in the same day. Literally just had it happen with the hurricane
Well your problem isn’t the camera it’s Texas!
@@2424rocket 😂 some problems are worth having
FX30 is your only option.
It’s such a great cam, you get FX30 image for a price of 1000€… awesome! I’m gonna buy it for sure, don’t want the EVF, I’m not a photographer! Ibis is sad, but I use gimbal anyway for smooth image, 10 bit is great and the new screen. Great upgrade from last version which I own aswell, well 3 of them even :p
Very nice
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I am considering this as an upgrade on my 12y/o Canon SL1 for street photography and sort videos.I was hoping canon would rev the R10 but that doesn't look to be on the menu for this year. My primary camera is now my phone (I expect this to continue with the iPhone 16) since an iPhone is somewhat more stealthy in crowd environments. Having this as a secondary when I need some flexibility in lens choice or need to use an ND filter this is a goto choice.
Its crazy how the a6400 and a6600 can do 4k 30fps and not overheat or last way longer than the new cameras. But the new cameras has better NR, DR and more bells and whistles
Its a 4K60 Ski vlog camera!
Awesome video and charts. You put so much work into this. I'm just surprised at how extremely bad the picture quality looked in the short test. I know it's shut on a mediocre kit lens - but still... looks way worse than a modern smartphone.
Can it do the aspect marker crop like a7cii?
And what about using a ulanzi cooler on it? Would it help to not overheat?
the thing is, what happen if you have to shoot a los of mini clips like 50 videos of 2min, will you affcted by the overheating issues anyway?