I'll give you x5 from Axis: 122nd, Harteneck (top 10 div really), Tattau (ridiculously under appreciated), Hadosztaly and Skijager (CQC) and Allies: 43rd, Purtata, 3rd Canadian, TF45 and 8th Indian. NOTE: 715 would be a possibility ... I would never put it near top 10. Honourable mentions: Lovas, 14th Infantry, 29th (for some long range fun), 3GTC, 2nd Tank and Kessel. I also rate 1st Pancelos higher than 2nd due to better inf ... the only weaker point is lack of panthers (but not a big deal on many maps). I COMPLETELY forgot about 44th too! Very solid division and often overlooked in pick and ban.
@@PhilosophyNascent 44 is not that good compared to other soviet decks. Severe lack of AT and long range inf. Skijaeger really suffers with cqc and long range inf, only good in yellow cover. Harteneck and Kessel should be in top 10, extremely strong divs but always banned
2. Pancelos gets a limited number of 70kmh krupp transports for the infantry and support guns that you didnt take, so it isnt even that slow in the deployment at least.
I played 17 SS yesterday and dominated the map. Absolutely love the ju87G which kills an IS 2 in 4 hits. The ju88 cluster is also super fun. Very strong division, but I feel it lacks late game good recon. That's the only thing I can say I don't like about it. Amazing Arty tab and airplanes.
i think they should give some rework for 5th Gebirgs and 28.Jäger cause i think jägers used alot of snipers. Also Russians i think used them more than western allies. so maybe nerf the amount of snipers for allies in men of steel. if they want to be historically more correct. Also brandenburgers could be like having more variation like specal forces brigade.
For Brit AB paras, the snipers change is historically more correct at least. In their ToE they had on average 1 sniper per standard rifles section in 44. When 6th AB first came out they ahistorically reduced this, but with all the other divisions getting snipers they did a 180 and gave them their accurate loadout.
@@atkpwrgamingnot oonly factor is the thing you dont have to cover a lot of ground so on some places. Divisons like unthernemeng slaps in the right situations but becuse not a lot of ground to cover. air is not so good since aa doesent have to cover as much. Players divide the map into there sectors and the sectors are often not so big.
-doesn't have 2k he -doesn't take half of 2k he that is in 1SSB. The fact that they moved it to the much cheaper arty tab doesn't mean that it's not 2k he
@@justvid366 yeah I can imagine, definitely open maps are a nightmare for most infantry dependent divisions but thankfully if you can sneak the 57mm up to range most armor can be dealt with.
2000 m range or 2 kilometres. it is the longest range in the game available for direct fire. its very helpful to have and very difficult to work around not having it
What I like about it is that Warno is much more about combined arms than SD2. You can't just rush with armored cars which is ridiculous from the historical viewpoint but is somehow SD2 meta.
@@jaapaasa Kv-8S are great. Su-76 kinda meh. I really don't see the strong points of this div. Barely any tanks (even if there are IS-2s). Somewhat good but mostly just many infantry and a barely used arty and Air tab. Alot of mediocre tabs.
Here me out. Top ten divisions that can sneak through bans.
Now we're talking! 5 geb definitely
@@tedarcher9120Lol it is must ban
I'll give you x5 from Axis: 122nd, Harteneck (top 10 div really), Tattau (ridiculously under appreciated), Hadosztaly and Skijager (CQC) and Allies: 43rd, Purtata, 3rd Canadian, TF45 and 8th Indian. NOTE: 715 would be a possibility ... I would never put it near top 10.
Honourable mentions: Lovas, 14th Infantry, 29th (for some long range fun), 3GTC, 2nd Tank and Kessel. I also rate 1st Pancelos higher than 2nd due to better inf ... the only weaker point is lack of panthers (but not a big deal on many maps).
I COMPLETELY forgot about 44th too! Very solid division and often overlooked in pick and ban.
@@PhilosophyNascent 44 is not that good compared to other soviet decks. Severe lack of AT and long range inf. Skijaeger really suffers with cqc and long range inf, only good in yellow cover. Harteneck and Kessel should be in top 10, extremely strong divs but always banned
@@maciejsztrauch7974 many players don't ban it because the aa is so bad
My experience with DLC multiplayer games is that, the profitable move is to release overpowered DLCs to incentivice purchases and then nerf them later
That's what everyone does these days.
Yeah, it is the standard these days, I am sure they will work it out eventually
War thunder players be like: "first time?"
2. Pancelos gets a limited number of 70kmh krupp transports for the infantry and support guns that you didnt take, so it isnt even that slow in the deployment at least.
This is true, but it doesn't mean that its painfully slow the rest of the time haha
Audio comes out good for me
Thank you!
Very interesting rundown even though I don't play alot and haven't got all the DLCs.
Glad you enjoyed it!
5th Gebirsjager is the new talk of the town in SDL.
As in up there with 4th Falls, ABT, and SSB talk.
Yeah that division does keep coming up in conversation, apparently something else these days
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Faction tier list when?
Factions would be fun
I played 17 SS yesterday and dominated the map. Absolutely love the ju87G which kills an IS 2 in 4 hits. The ju88 cluster is also super fun. Very strong division, but I feel it lacks late game good recon. That's the only thing I can say I don't like about it. Amazing Arty tab and airplanes.
Oh yeah it’s got it all! There’s really not much to complain about!
i think they should give some rework for 5th Gebirgs and 28.Jäger cause i think jägers used alot of snipers. Also Russians i think used them more than western allies. so maybe nerf the amount of snipers for allies in men of steel. if they want to be historically more correct. Also brandenburgers could be like having more variation like specal forces brigade.
For Brit AB paras, the snipers change is historically more correct at least. In their ToE they had on average 1 sniper per standard rifles section in 44. When 6th AB first came out they ahistorically reduced this, but with all the other divisions getting snipers they did a 180 and gave them their accurate loadout.
i see@@riyoriyote
Yeah, a review of the sniper wielding units in the game would likely be beneficial for the overall balance at this point
Atkpwr you should do like subscriber games maybe even consider using that as video content as well.
I try to do that with patreons when possible, life is just very busy
I think 26th Soviet should be on here probably
Yeah it was between them and 84th
when speaking of balance in 3v3 4v4 anydivison is pretty much viable depending on the map ofc.
Oh yeah cause you have other divs to make up for weaknesses
@@atkpwrgamingnot oonly factor is the thing you dont have to cover a lot of ground so on some places. Divisons like unthernemeng slaps in the right situations but becuse not a lot of ground to cover. air is not so good since aa doesent have to cover as much. Players divide the map into there sectors and the sectors are often not so big.
You're very good at this game
Thank you!
-doesn't have 2k he
-doesn't take half of 2k he that is in 1SSB. The fact that they moved it to the much cheaper arty tab doesn't mean that it's not 2k he
True true oops
Every multiplayer game has always juiced their DLC on first patch😌
Yeah its not actually that weird, but people still get really pissed about it haha
Morskaya gruppa Bakhtina is still a really solid and cool division to me.
I love it, except for when I get on the open against the 2K armor, lol.
@@justvid366 yeah I can imagine, definitely open maps are a nightmare for most infantry dependent divisions but thankfully if you can sneak the 57mm up to range most armor can be dealt with.
ITs a fun division, but its infantry really dont stand up these days, and for a division all about the infantry thats pretty rough
More divisional guides!! I love this stuff. Pls 15 scots
I'll be my best! Thanks for watching!
, Off to make a 17th SS Deck
Oh you do want one of those haha
one thing i dont understand is only the hungarien bofors for some reason gets ap while the rest dont.
Maybe they are the only ones who developed armor piercing rounds for it?
Why is the 20th Panzer not included in the top-10? It was S-tier in your September overview -_-
And 26th Strelki is arguably much better than 84th
I dont think 20th is as broken on any map as these. 84th is more well rounded in my opinion, both are very good
Just got My ST2 copy but My Divions are EMPTY! When I chose one is not "ready" like yours! Why??
I keep seeing you mention, "2k this, 2k that," but what does it mean? I can't find any info searching for it.
2000 m range or 2 kilometres. it is the longest range in the game available for direct fire. its very helpful to have and very difficult to work around not having it
@@atkpwrgaming Thank you!
could you please make a10 worst divisions ? or could anyone give me his opinion
NOV for me is the worst.
Tartalek, probably
I will see what I can do :)
@@atkpwrgaming thank you really love your videos
2 id definitely doesn't go that high anymore
That was the one I was kinda on the fence about honestly. I still think its very good though
Why do you have the A and B phase so heavily stacked and no c phase units?
Cause in 1v1 you don’t need more than a few cards to get through a game, especially with leagues time limit
@@atkpwrgaming makes sense. Thank you
the developers ruined the game, I switched to Warno after 2.5 thousand hours in SD2, there is no such thing there yet
Basically all divisions are great in Warno. At least it's not like 50% of them are unplayable
What I like about it is that Warno is much more about combined arms than SD2. You can't just rush with armored cars which is ridiculous from the historical viewpoint but is somehow SD2 meta.
Well they have a lot less divisions there which is why it's still balanced. I promise you if they get to even 50 divs only half will be playable haha
only 1 division that comes with the game and the rest all DLC. Sad
yea this is pay to win game...imagine trying to be competitive in this game but youre poor
@@opie_candoit78Well I mean buy the DLC's when they're on sale, you get them really cheap.
@@opie_candoit78would be easy if not for the bans
also imagine if your opponent knows you dont own any DLC and they can just ban the best base vanilla divisions ROFL new strat for 2024
Apparently they are looking into older divisions with this next patch to start bringing them up to standard
Top ten for 10 v 10? 😎
Anything with lots of 2k range and efficient arty.
I dont really play it so my opinion would be terrible haha
84th Strelki with only 3 tank cards? No way the infantry can balance that out and justify a place on this list.
You get more armor in support and AT tab. It's a very versatile deck.
@@jaapaasa Sure the card of ISU is nice but he has no tanks in the AT tab.
@@steffent.6477He doesn't have them, but there is a card of su76 in at tab and kv-8s in support.
26th Rifles has similar but better package in almost every category except maybe AA
@@jaapaasa Kv-8S are great. Su-76 kinda meh. I really don't see the strong points of this div. Barely any tanks (even if there are IS-2s). Somewhat good but mostly just many infantry and a barely used arty and Air tab. Alot of mediocre tabs.
No 5th Gebirgs. BUHHHHHH
I know secret number one haha
i will keep my opinions to myself ahahhahha
hahaha that is abnormal amount of restraint