That’s a difficult one because you can truthfully use any division in any fashion that you would like. Eugens categorization of divisions as offensive or not is pretty widely innaccurate
@@atkpwrgaming I can agree with that assessment. What about doing lists for the best maps in your opinion? Nevertheless, some divisions are excellent defensive formations but lack an offensive punch (especially those with late stage tanks).
Koruck, 9Kav, Vyborg, 52sicherungs, Strachwitz, 7Esti, Nov, 9Infanterie, 16pz, 15scots Is the list almost uncontested I believe I can say that for four reasons : - they are almost never picked in league, we didn’t see some for three seasons - they are in the bottom of the sd league tierlist made with the answers of 34 competitive players - they have the worst winrates in the one year monthly stats that i pulled out on my Twitter account - and the best argue i think that they are the worst so it s true 😂
@@justvid366 can be usable nowadays more than before thanks to multiple buffs But it is still hard to play. I would not recommend it for new players. And not seem to be a competitive choice in a league setting. So not in the 10 worst divs but not on the better 50 for sure 😉
@@atkpwrgamingyes sure ! 😅 I would say that i can understand the Monterosa view but the 19th Tankovy is better than lot of thought. It was good for slutsk’s maps already, before the ppsh buff and the tank rider. So now it s a competitive pick, in league i mean not in qp 😉 And for Rossel i will let ReeF, Mintjellyman, Khers or konos tell you why it s strong 😂
As a bad player i have to say that double KT start is broken in 1v1. Also i played enough koruk and i have seen glorious schuma destroying virgin goumiers. And btw NOV borci spam is hilariously stronk power of chad communism is with him.
So, you bring 2 tigers, and like 5 infantry squads? Sound extremely easy to counter. Any sort of bazooka unit or at plane will destroy 1 of them and you have lost half of the map
@@GrandSnow469 Underthesea is undisputibly the worst player in the hostory of SD2 but give him two King Tigers at deployment & he will storm the gates of hell ;)
Funny enough I played a game 3v3 with two friends and one choose a Panzer Division, me the 16th Panzer and my other friend the 4th Monterosa and funny enough 16th and 4th comolemented really well. Since we play on a blitzkrieg tactic where I choose heavy divisions to receive the enemy head on while my friends punch through the lines. In the end when my friend of the 4th started to face heavy soviet tanks I deploy the konigs and PIV and AT's to cover the advance since I am more of a defensive player myself.
@@atkpwrgaming I introduce Steel Division 2 to them and since then they love it especially when we play matches combining Divisions. We love to try different Divisions and try to select Division that try to compensate for their weaknesses. In that match I help him deal with the enemy tanks while he supported me with infantry and recon. My only minor complain is that I would love an option to transfer command of units to other players. Granted we just started bur sometimes one of us need help and other has the perfect stuff to help us and it because of this is really tricky to do combine divisions operations.
Good work another amazing video!! Keep it up man i always look forward to ur videos and dont let the hate get to you. Your commenting on games is amazing never change!!!
Lets gooo. I enjoy these lists because I always play memes. In every game. It hurts my soul to see so many air slots empty. Is it bad mid because mid or because you dont spam aircraft.
Atk, i've been wondering, is there going to be a video outlining Task Force Butler? It's division I really like, and I want to know a better way to use what my friend describes as "the only bad American division"
Since u put NOV at the worst place i can't complain. I feel the same about it. Onely Luna can find something to work with in this deck. Imagine play this deck agains Stan & his tanck ruch...What a nightmare.
The only reason is why Unternehmen Rosel is bad, because men of steel exists. While other decks have their entire infantry tab filled with commandos who are not any how exeperience cap. Like yo can take 1 vet forcemen??? But brandenburgergs only come in 2 vet 4 in a card. Its a great showcase how unbiased developer certainly don’t release OP pay to win decks.
@@atkpwrgaming No it’s just not fair. While one commando unit in one deck has a vet cap at 2 vet, other full commando decks like Ab paras, forcemen etc etc don’t have any and you can pick what 20 forcemen in 2 cards.
So do you think they would ever release mirror maps that are not historical. Just maps that mirror or something so it's truly down to division and player.
Mfw two of my most liked divs on the list... But to be fair good points. Italians really ain't as good as they used to be now that there's better CQB infantry and 53rd sicherungs requires a very specific playstyle to survive despite the phase locking
I think you dont need to disclaimer as hard as you do. PPl will always complain anyway but you are right. There are divisions that are bad. Bad doesnt mean unusable or useless. The world is relative so if we have a hundred divisions some of them have to be the worst and thats fine. We can try to help them but when you have as many divs you have its fine if some are thougher to play as it might be something a player wants to do. Trying to play a division that is harder to pull off. They are not impossible to win with they are an uphill battle. Usually these divs dont suck at everything but have something they are good at, its just that they are very bad at too many things to make up for it. Or the thing they are good at isnt important enough in the game. Often what they are good at they also arent good enough at compared to other divisions that are bad in the category. dont agree on Rossel and think maybe 352nd and 6th SA can make the list.
I think it'd be cool if we got some sort of Wargame Red Dragon system with naval units included and personally I'd still play the Japanese even if they didn't have a lot of great tanks, AA, or AT, but I can still see why we don't get a Pacific SD game. What I'm really wondering is why we haven't gotten a Japanese faction in Company of Heroes.
@@atkpwrgamingTo be fair, with divisions like Italy or Yugoslavia who also had pretty lackluster tank, AT, and AA capabilities, I could see a Japanese division working, although I think you'd have to make a new game centered on island maps with naval units and naval landings. A pretty bit different than classic SD, but sounds really fun to me. Plus, if you were to add some Chinese divisions and maps, I think they'd be on par with Japan's capabilities. It'd also be representation for an EXTREMELY unrepresented front of the war.
@@fischyfischy7532You have to be SUPER aggressive with this div to make it work. It can be very effective but the lack of inf means Van or Mav work way better than Bal.
@@atkpwrgaming you're welcome. german is a weird language, like english. sometimes 'ch' is pronounced like a "khhh" and sometimes it's a 'sh' sound. just depends on the word
7 estii has bombers with 3x 1000kg bombs. Iirc thats the largest in the game. Not worth it obviously given the rest of the division, but its a major plus
5:00 you know AtkPwr never played a division for a very long time when you see off map in the deck
Hahahaha facts. Very real facts
You forgot Vyborg, it is worse than several of those.
There’s so many divs that fall in cracks and I forget about anymore
I like the top 10 lists but would love to see you make a top 10 list of the best defensive and offensive divisions
That’s a difficult one because you can truthfully use any division in any fashion that you would like. Eugens categorization of divisions as offensive or not is pretty widely innaccurate
@@atkpwrgaming I can agree with that assessment. What about doing lists for the best maps in your opinion? Nevertheless, some divisions are excellent defensive formations but lack an offensive punch (especially those with late stage tanks).
Koruck, 9Kav, Vyborg, 52sicherungs, Strachwitz, 7Esti, Nov, 9Infanterie, 16pz, 15scots
Is the list almost uncontested I believe
I can say that for four reasons :
- they are almost never picked in league, we didn’t see some for three seasons
- they are in the bottom of the sd league tierlist made with the answers of 34 competitive players
- they have the worst winrates in the one year monthly stats that i pulled out on my Twitter account
- and the best argue i think that they are the worst so it s true 😂
Well I wasn’t completely off the mark then 😜
@@justvid366 can be usable nowadays more than before thanks to multiple buffs
But it is still hard to play. I would not recommend it for new players. And not seem to be a competitive choice in a league setting.
So not in the 10 worst divs but not on the better 50 for sure 😉
@@atkpwrgamingyes sure ! 😅
I would say that i can understand the Monterosa view but the 19th Tankovy is better than lot of thought. It was good for slutsk’s maps already, before the ppsh buff and the tank rider. So now it s a competitive pick, in league i mean not in qp 😉
And for Rossel i will let ReeF, Mintjellyman, Khers or konos tell you why it s strong 😂
Not my beloved 15th scots! 😢
As a bad player i have to say that double KT start is broken in 1v1. Also i played enough koruk and i have seen glorious schuma destroying virgin goumiers. And btw NOV borci spam is hilariously stronk power of chad communism is with him.
So, you bring 2 tigers, and like 5 infantry squads? Sound extremely easy to counter. Any sort of bazooka unit or at plane will destroy 1 of them and you have lost half of the map
you are talking to top div 1 player, pay respect@@GrandSnow469
That’s only for you. And you aren’t bad stop misleading people hahaha
Only noobs play the double KT opener. Did you see my 4 panther opener ? I destroyed a pro player with it 😅
@@GrandSnow469 Underthesea is undisputibly the worst player in the hostory of SD2 but give him two King Tigers at deployment & he will storm the gates of hell ;)
Funny enough I played a game 3v3 with two friends and one choose a Panzer Division, me the 16th Panzer and my other friend the 4th Monterosa and funny enough 16th and 4th comolemented really well.
Since we play on a blitzkrieg tactic where I choose heavy divisions to receive the enemy head on while my friends punch through the lines. In the end when my friend of the 4th started to face heavy soviet tanks I deploy the konigs and PIV and AT's to cover the advance since I am more of a defensive player myself.
Well if you can mix divs to cover their weaknesses then there are a lot of bad division combos that are actually quite good
@@atkpwrgaming I introduce Steel Division 2 to them and since then they love it especially when we play matches combining Divisions. We love to try different Divisions and try to select Division that try to compensate for their weaknesses.
In that match I help him deal with the enemy tanks while he supported me with infantry and recon. My only minor complain is that I would love an option to transfer command of units to other players. Granted we just started bur sometimes one of us need help and other has the perfect stuff to help us and it because of this is really tricky to do combine divisions operations.
Good work another amazing video!! Keep it up man i always look forward to ur videos and dont let the hate get to you. Your commenting on games is amazing never change!!!
Thanks so much I appreciate your support!
Lets gooo. I enjoy these lists because I always play memes. In every game.
It hurts my soul to see so many air slots empty. Is it bad mid because mid or because you dont spam aircraft.
60% of everything I play is on this list XD
I am surprised the skyjaeger division wasnt on this list.
Skijager is solid these days. No reason to be in the bottom. It’s not A tier but it definitely has some play with mp44 spam
Atk, i've been wondering, is there going to be a video outlining Task Force Butler? It's division I really like, and I want to know a better way to use what my friend describes as "the only bad American division"
It is one of the only bad American divs haha I’ll see what I can do!
If NOV isn't in Vanguard mode, you're doing it wrong🎯
If you are playing nov you are doing it wrong 😜
@@atkpwrgamingskill issue bro
Rosselsprung thing is that, I believe, it gets a lot of the best throwables in the game
It’s just never a div I would want to blind pick into the queue
Since u put NOV at the worst place i can't complain. I feel the same about it. Onely Luna can find something to work with in this deck. Imagine play this deck agains Stan & his tanck ruch...What a nightmare.
thanks for the review btw.
I legitimately think that nov gets the best airforce there is
Yeah I would be terrified running this into the queue
The only reason is why Unternehmen Rosel is bad, because men of steel exists. While other decks have their entire infantry tab filled with commandos who are not any how exeperience cap. Like yo can take 1 vet forcemen??? But brandenburgergs only come in 2 vet 4 in a card. Its a great showcase how unbiased developer certainly don’t release OP pay to win decks.
Yeah it could move up if every div didn’t have monstrous infantry these days
@@atkpwrgaming No it’s just not fair. While one commando unit in one deck has a vet cap at 2 vet, other full commando decks like Ab paras, forcemen etc etc don’t have any and you can pick what 20 forcemen in 2 cards.
big thank you from me that you fullfill my wish taht quick great list
You're welcome!
So do you think they would ever release mirror maps that are not historical. Just maps that mirror or something so it's truly down to division and player.
Very unlikely. The fact that we are getting new maps at all is miraculous. Orsha north is the closest we will ever get to mirror
Mfw two of my most liked divs on the list... But to be fair good points. Italians really ain't as good as they used to be now that there's better CQB infantry and 53rd sicherungs requires a very specific playstyle to survive despite the phase locking
Yeah the infantry scaling already left 4th behind which is nuts cause it’s pretty new all things considered
I think you dont need to disclaimer as hard as you do. PPl will always complain anyway but you are right. There are divisions that are bad. Bad doesnt mean unusable or useless.
The world is relative so if we have a hundred divisions some of them have to be the worst and thats fine. We can try to help them but when you have as many divs you have its fine if some are thougher to play as it might be something a player wants to do. Trying to play a division that is harder to pull off. They are not impossible to win with they are an uphill battle.
Usually these divs dont suck at everything but have something they are good at, its just that they are very bad at too many things to make up for it. Or the thing they are good at isnt important enough in the game. Often what they are good at they also arent good enough at compared to other divisions that are bad in the category.
dont agree on Rossel and think maybe 352nd and 6th SA can make the list.
But I do need the disclaimer because otherwise people absolutely lose it in the comments as if I’m sayin these divs are actually terrible
Also I know tanks were not dominant in the pacific but why can't we get japanease and marine divisions
Because the have been very clear it’s staying in Europe. Japan would have no tools to realistically stand up to European nations
I think it'd be cool if we got some sort of Wargame Red Dragon system with naval units included and personally I'd still play the Japanese even if they didn't have a lot of great tanks, AA, or AT, but I can still see why we don't get a Pacific SD game. What I'm really wondering is why we haven't gotten a Japanese faction in Company of Heroes.
@@atkpwrgamingTo be fair, with divisions like Italy or Yugoslavia who also had pretty lackluster tank, AT, and AA capabilities, I could see a Japanese division working, although I think you'd have to make a new game centered on island maps with naval units and naval landings. A pretty bit different than classic SD, but sounds really fun to me.
Plus, if you were to add some Chinese divisions and maps, I think they'd be on par with Japan's capabilities. It'd also be representation for an EXTREMELY unrepresented front of the war.
Are the decks in Quick Battle auto-build?
Absolutely not. You build them yourself and and go into the queue
There are lots of soviet divisions Attackpwr completely forgot existed that are much worse than most on this list.
Probably true. It’s hard to keep track anymore
You did miss out the best infantry unit in your NOV build.
The recon flamers?
Which one? And I’m not surprised I don’t use the div
@@atkpwrgamingberetta, shock with molotovs. Begins with J
Where's group morskya? Also, the alpina division has such slow transports 🐌
The transports are very painful. Still feel like Morkaya can have its moments
Strachwitz my beloved
I want it to be good. It’s not haha
@@atkpwrgaming i won once with them because its so bad my enemy never fought against them and didnt knew what i had
@@fischyfischy7532You have to be SUPER aggressive with this div to make it work. It can be very effective but the lack of inf means Van or Mav work way better than Bal.
I like it too. Normally it's the airforce, who does big work 😅
Next top 10 best Division in game
Already posted 5 days ago.
Already in here :)
I basically only play those.
You enjoy misery then haha
Good list. Might have considered Rhyma Raappana, Armia Krajowa, and 3-ya VDD.
3rd has the upgraded ppsh units now so they aren’t the worse anymore. Armia could have been a choice as well
AK is a mess since update. Was hit hard when new traits came into play.
Where is my Morskaya Gruppa?
I always feel like the div can still do something good
Befor watching: it's 10 tank divs^^
Hahaha no actually they are all meh. Not necessarily bad
Are all bad divisions axis or soviet?
No. But minor factions tend to be stronger
Rosselsprung in top10 worst? 1v1 me bro!
I was sure you will upset by that 😂
I agree with you, This is not the place of Rossel.
I will say that it is the same for Alpina Monterosa.
@@colonelkoenig42birhakeim424th Alpina Is upthere with 17ss and 4th FJ 😁
Figured I’d be hearing from you hahaha
no Group besugliogo???
I don’t think it’s the worse. Just never better than anything else
Sicherungs is pronounced "Zish-eh-roongs"
Thank you!
@@atkpwrgaming you're welcome. german is a weird language, like english. sometimes 'ch' is pronounced like a "khhh" and sometimes it's a 'sh' sound. just depends on the word
7 estii has bombers with 3x 1000kg bombs. Iirc thats the largest in the game. Not worth it obviously given the rest of the division, but its a major plus
Too slow.
Very expensive and slow unfortunately. Very fun though haha
No VDD and no Gorno? Fr?
I don’t like them but that doesn’t mean I think they are the worst haha
@@atkpwrgamingI play them (I genuinely hate myself) and I can say, they are an absolute trash
@@grzegorzhimselfGorno is certainly not trash. VDD has fallen off a little but is still strong with its shock factor. Neither are trash.