@@theneef174 Why is Grevious so different from the 2003 clone wars to The clone wars and Episode III? In 2003 he's an unstoppable killing machine and then he turns into a coward. I'm going off what George Lucas said in an Interview!
*Fun fact:* Apart from Grievous, another important Kaleesh was Saes Rrogon, a Sith who served the Original Sith Empire during the Great Hyperspace War, who, along with the crew of a ship called "Harbinger", accidentally jumped 5041 years into the future (shortly after the death of Jacen Solo and the end of the Second Galactic Civil War) due to a hyperspace malfunction.
I've read that book at least twice and I'm about to go re-read it again after I finish the series I'm currently working on. It's a great book, does a really good job with horror closer to the end.
@@shadownightshade2420 Yeah. Shame the same cannot be said about the author himself. He said on his Twitter account that fans who criticized the sequels for having forced diversity were despicable beings and told them to f*ck off
The Rebels: we’re using guerrilla tactics against the empire but we’re vastly outgunned and out numbered things don’t look good. The Kaleesh: No blasters, No Beskar? No problem! 😎
Mace Windu: General Grievous will run and hide as he always does: He's a coward. Grievous: *Mauls down four or five Jedi at the same time with helicopter spinning lightsaber moves*
@@trololopez2437 Possibly. It seemed he carried a lot of weight on the council as well, as if he was a permanent member like Yoda. In some parts, he's condescending and acts very dismissive to Jedi below him and hell, even basically tells Anakin he never trusted him. I never liked how he was written. I really disliked his character.
Good lord, I knew the Kaleesh were impressive warriors. However, resisting the Empire for 10 years and getting some special treatment by empire standards when they had lost, now that is extremely impressive.
Let's not forget that Kaleesh not only manage to resist the empire for an entire decade long before the Resistence was a thing. No no no, the Kaleesh manage to beat and resist a galactic spawning empire for 10 years, with just regular standard ballistic weapons, these warriors are so badass, that they din't need any fancy or shining advance Sci-Fi high tech, THEY LITERALLY RESIST A GALATIC EMPIRE JUST WITH BALLISTIC AND KNIVES WEAPONS IN A GALAXY WHERE EVERYONE USES ENERGY WEAPONS. And admital Trawn, ADMIRAL TRAWN HIMSELF, was so baffle by the fact the Kaleesh had out manouver and outsmart him at every turn, that he literally had to nuke the crap out the planet to beat them. Good thing these guys din't have access to Blasters, energy or Veska or Corotosis blades or else they would single handely take out the empire
I mean,they litteraly had guns,you can't dodge bullets like you would with a blaster bolt.The stormtroopers also didn't have the right equipment to deal with bullets.
@@menancingsnom6221 Btw, in Thrawn's case, 'art' does mean conventional arts instead of fighting arts. This is a guy who sees straightforward tactics to be crude & stupid, saved only as a last resort while other options are exhausted. He's for actually studying the arts of many cultures, especially that of his enemies, be it out of genuine interest or to actually beat his enemies at their own game.
Kaleesh are prime examples of the republic’s corruption. Using them to fight a war that they kinda started by siting a coup and when invaders came to enslaved them they did nothing, and when they finally did something they fought with the invaders. In doing so they create one of their most feared and dangerous enemies. Grievous is definitely a hero in his story because in his mind and rightly so he was fighting against a corrupt government that only used and mistreated them. So honestly I don’t blame grievous or the kaleesh joining the Separatists they seemed like the better option
I mean it also comes down to the slavers stopping any of their voices from being heard and the jedi and republic only seeing one side in this conflict, the Jedi should have listened to the Kaleesh when they got involved
@@jdcrosier2682 I don't think that would have been a great loss, one less corrupted and slavery using species in the republic, it falls down to the Jedi and Republic not listening to the Kaleesh's side when they finally heard of what was going on.
Thrawn : Let them join the empire and let them govern themselves in any other preferable treatment they desire otherwise we don't want to piss them off again
As much as I love Lucas and Filoni. They were absolutely stupid and brain empty for turning him into a joke. Absolutely infuriating. Gendy Tartakovsky is the only one that did him justice.
Yeah, Grievous's portrayal in The Clone Wars is one of its few issues, but BOY is it a BIG ISSUE in my opinion. It really feels like they made Grievous so weak and pathetic that it's surprising he doesn't just die from tripping on a pebble or something
I never enjoyed that show because it only took the Republic point of view. Even though they show some parts of the separatist, they never try to show that the clones and the Jedi were also the bad guys. A war is a war. Both sides have their way of seen things and I was expecting one season with the Republic point of view and then other seasons with the separatist point of view
Grievous has always been my most favourite character and I always thought the Kaleesh were an absolute amazing species in Star Wars. Thanks for making this video! ^^
Thrawn: Despite extensive analysis of the enemies culture and artwork, I am left perplexed and my results are inconclusive. Therefore, I recommend we employ orbital bombardment Imperial officer: you got this… from artwork?
The Kaleesh manage to do all this with primitive weaponry and no help at all. These guys make a better resistance than the rebels! Now imagine what would happen if they did join?
@@z-man1237 Tbh if Grievous had that mask on the right pic any Jedi, Clone or any Republic soldier would be way too scared to even look at him. To the point they would stay in their ship in orbit
@@tomriddler1926 sudly we don't know and now the only thing in my mind is how much I want to see a story about a kaleesh who discover's that his is force sensitive and is trained by Luke all the while he managed to let of the hatred he had for the Jedi and then he teach that to his people as well
The art depicting the Kaleesh is very inconsistent, with either reptilian, bat like, or human like faces. They are also depicted as either digitigrade or plantigrade. What's canon?
@@thirdplanet4471 A highly unlikely case if Kalee is actually as hostile as depicted here. Diversity flourishes only when living conditions are conducive. The way their planet is out to fuck them like all the time & their people constantly at war with each other, not to mention their fanatical & rigid adherence to their respective martial cultures, such vast biological differences would have long been eliminated before the greater galaxy would even come into contact with them.
There is no Canon, in legends they were reptilian but once disney got their disgusting fingers into the SW franchise they can now change it as they see fit
Admiral Thrawn: “To understand and defeat your enemies you must understand their art and culture 🧐”.. Takes one look at Kaleesh art.. “WTF is this!!.. Screw it just bomb them into submission”😂
So wait, those were just skull masks? I thought their species was just so awesome they were just naturally had skulls for faces. I mean to be fair, we've seen a fair share of species with weird biology, so people with actual skeleton faces wouldn't be that surprising.
I thought it was there Genetics as well,but it became badass to me once i realized that they NEVER took them off to the point that we thought it was apart of them.
I would like to see some NonHuman Mandos, actually. Not that just ANY species would be seen as worthy of joining the warriors, though. Here is the best example of a species that would be awesome to get included.
The Kaleesh, Wookies, Trandoshan, Tusken Raiders, Yuuzhan Vong (I'm only adding them cause I'm kinda curious) would be the most badass and deadliest Mandolorians in the galaxy.
thrawn: *can't make heads or tails of Kaleesh art* ok...bomb them. kaleesh civilization: *proceeds to wage a 10 year long war with the whole empire* some bug man: first time?
I would really love to see the Kaleesh in the Rebellion and/or New Republic eras. How they feel about the New Republic, a new government or just a repeat of the one that abused them? How would Luke's new Jedi interact with them after what the old Jedi did? What did the Kalee do with their own force sensitives? Are there any Kalee colonies or populations still out there in the wider galaxy? Could be some interesting stories to tell.
Imagine if Grievous was force sensitive he would be so powerful even with out body enhancements like in the movies. Also I believe that the Kaleesh could have their own movie like for example Grievous being the demigod like figure in his society fighting the Yamrii and how he became a cyborg.
It's likely that Grievous _was_ Force Sensitive, seeing as he had prophetic dreams. Though with the loss of Ronderu and then later, like, 90% of his body his connection to the Force was likely severed or weakened severely.
This is why Grevious is one of my favorite characters. I hate how newer star wars media portrays him as such a wimp who relies on dirty tricks. He used to be such an unstoppable juggernaut that only Obi Wan could defeat.
FINALLY, someone recognizing the truth! I really want a series centering around Qymaen jai Sheelal's story. I have for a while. Like... It's frankly distressing how much I admire his character. And my distaste for his interpretation in the 2008 Clone Wars, especially compared to Genndy Tartakovsky's version in the 2003 Clone Wars series.
Bro Grievous in legends is such a GOAT and tragic character ol boy was just tryna take care of his people all while ripping through Jedi like a chainsaw.
I just realized. Had things turned out differently, Grievous could have been amazing friends with Anakin: -Both had their lives ruined by slavers. -Both struggled with anger issues growing up. -Both trained hard to become powerful fighters. -Both were considered the champions of their factions. -Both would slaughter their oppressors years later (the Huk and Tusken Raiders, respectively)
A few more things: -They both lost the woman they loved. -They both hated the Jedi deeply. -They both lost most of their organic body. -Both were defeated by Obi wan.
@@agostonpitlik8045 And those Siths in the same way that they used them for their dark plans, they also got rid of them the moment they were no longer useful.
Sadly we never got to see them in TCW... The only example we had was Grievous... But he wasn't that great of a representation, considering that he barely contained much left of his former life.... And also he just sucked, in TCW lol.
@@samuelebincoletto637 Like the video said, they came to respect the Empire in some way for their resilience and when they joined, they were allowed a degree of autonomy on themselves. So they probably saw no need for them to then join a Rebellion.
@@estebson Good point but i still love the idea of the Kaleesh joining the Rebel Alliance, i also find it kind of fitting since they have been opressed for so long.
Good lord, good thing thw Kaleesh don't have access to blaster technology or energy blades (Or whatever those electric Magna Guard Staff ares called) Imagine if the Kaleesh could produce their own blaster and energy balde weapons, they would single handely won the clone wars and wipe out the Huk species entirely. Nevertheless, I just love the fact that in a Galaxy where everyone uses energy weapons and blades, the most badass warrior race uses ballistic weapons and regular blades and is still able to go toe to toe with basically anybody, because my man, if a warrior race is so badass that you have to bssically gave them less technology to balance them out, then my Kaleesh homies are WAY too overpowered.
So I think it would be super awesome if Disney would allow for the major supporting characters to be explored in films or shows. Imagine watching a season or two of General Grevious's journey to the Grevious we see in the clone wars.
Yeah, but that movie failed more from the depiction of the story arc rather than the content itself. Poor selection of the majority of actors and too much of a new age feel alienated the fan base. I was thinking more along the lines of a gritty tv show similar to something like the Mandalorian than Han Solo
Don't underestimate slugthrowers! Most Star Wars tech has been developed to counter energy weapons, so a ballistic weapon has many advantages. Also can be suppressed and is much harder to counter with a lightsaber.
I had an Idea that Grievous dose have some surviving family like grandchildren, and one grandson was force-sensitive, the idea is Luke Skywalker ads the new-republic in liberating the Kaleesh home world and as Luke, Han and Leia negotiate with the ruler of the Kaleesh, the grandson attack Luke with a throwing disc weapon that he summons back with the force, Luke was scared in the back but it was not fate and he got back up fine, some Kaleesh bodyguards were ready to attack the grandson before Luke asked them to stand down and talked with him Luke: Who are you? Grandson: You will not know me but I know you, you are the apprentice of Obi-wan Kenobi, are you not. Luke: Yes, he was my first Master. Grandson: Good, then do you know of the one known as General Grievous? Luke: Yes, he was a cyborg Kaleesh that led the CIS during the clone wars and was killed by Obi-wan nearing its end, but what dose this have to do with us? Grandson: Before he was made a machine, he sired many children, some were believed to have been killed, but some survived and had children of their own, I am the grandchild of his seventh wife. Luke: So, this is about revenge? Grandson: It is, but not in the way you expect, Your master is dead, honour demands I kill his child or successor, as you were his apprentice, that is you, but your actions here today, you saved my people and drove the empire from our home, to kill you after helping us would be a disgrace, with that scar, the debt is paid. Luke: Your grandfather may not be seen favourably by the rest of the galaxy, but I understand the pride you put into your heritage, and I'm happy to see you can put it aside for the good of your people, I do sense great power in you, you have the force? Grandson: Yes, I have survived the empire's attempts to find me, even those Inquisitors could not capture me, I have lived with my power for many years, despite the history of my people and the jedi, I would he honoured to join your order. Luke: I leaned what the old republic and jedi did to your people, what they did that drove your Grandfather to become what he was, it was a disgrace, but hopefully with time, like the wounded you inflicted, things between us can heal. (offers his hand) Grandson: (takes the hand and shakes)
"Ok good news, I just took out one of their demi gods so their morale should be crippled." "Wait which one did you kill?" "The female, why?" "... God help us all."
I could just imagine Thrawn struggling to understand the Kaleesh's art, like some freshman cramming for finals week. "This isn't ART! THIS IS YOUR GRANDFATHER'S SHIN BONE TAPED TO THE CARAPACE OF A GIANT BUGS HAND!"
Hmm, you forgot about the reason as to how and why he became a cyborg: all it took was the recent addition to the Lost Twenty, the death of a certain Jedi several years back, a simple shuttle crash, and blood transfusions from said certain Jedi.
It’s just a big group of clannish warrior peoples who don’t like being told what to do by outsiders. I assume we can throw in the Togorians with the rest of the Mandalorians. Might as well toss in the Cathar while we’re at it
@@michaelangelomaimone3181 Not sure throwing in the Cathar with the Mandalorian is a good idea since the former might still have some grievances with the latter committing acts of genocide against them a long time ago.
I know this is strange but I have a head cannon that the Kaleesh can grab weapon and objects with there feet and fight like 2003 Grievous. Just sounds cool to me I guess
It's sad that grievous started out as a good guy hunting slavers. Only to be abandoned by the jedi (even if they didn't know it would feel like the people you helped now won't help you on return). Even after that he didn't give up his fight and met a kindred spirit only for her to be killed by the species the jedi should be helping him against. Then gets sabotaged manipulated and twisted into pure evil.
Kaleesh are absolutely rad! I have a few oc’s on stand by that love taking the piss out of mandalorians. Its strange how pretty much none of the other species that can rival a Wookiee and transdoshan strength get shown too often…cept maybe lassats?4:22 PFFT! The republic pulled a krogan maneuver with the kaleesh?? That’s priceless!
star wars doesnt seem to like orbital bombardment that much. because why make things easy when you can just wage war for 10 years against a bunch of damn savages when you could just obliterate them.
What good is capturing a planet if you reduce it to an irradiated hellhole in the process? What good is subjugating a race if you greatly reduce their population and planetary wealth? What good are they to you at that point? What good is winning a war if it cost you so much to win? They lost a lot while fighting the Kaleesh, and lost many spoils by bombarding Oden.
@@xenomang3149 it costs nothing. we have the whole galaxy and its endless resources. the war is not to defeat the enemy, it is not to get their resources or to subjugate them. it is solely to destroy them to the very last. do not be so weak as to count the dead, for billion more will take their place as worlds burn and stars fall.
So it was the Kaleesh Thrawn omega ordered! This is a tactician bar none, Sussed out Vader was Anakin by his space fighting pattern, a man who routinely out maneuvered enemy strategists as if walking across the room, so intelligent even Darth Sidious made him one of 13 grand admirals despite not being human, and only executed subordinates only when it was egregious incompetence. Mad props to the Kaleesh for stymieing the greatest tactical mind in millenia.
General Grievous is my favourite character in star wars because he looks cool and is a badass ( yeah Vader, Maul, Dooku and the Senate himself were too 😂), I have enjoyed so many of you're vids and often rewatch them and I yes I do hope you'll make more Grievous vids in the future 🤞🤞
Every villain has a story that explains why they did what they did. As a star wars fan, I didn't know a lot about General Grievous' backstory so this was nice to see!
Me: So how do you carry those big balls? Kaleesh: We sling them around like flails. Me: Doesn’t it hurt? Kaleesh: Yes. Very. Me: Don’t you lose testosterone that way? Kaleesh: Nope. Actually we get more.
If Grevious was once an excellent marksman, imagine if he'd gotten his robo-mitts on that weird lightsaber rifle that Jocasta in addition to his Cybernetics. Anti-Jedi Aim-bot.
You know Grievous isn’t even that evil yes he went overboard with the Huk but they started it! But the stuff that happened after he became a cyborg his mind was altered and he essentially became a slave.
They truly are badass! In fact, I'm trying to come up with a novel (or perhaps a trilogy) involving them some time after the Second Galactic Civil War.
The republic trying to assert their dominance over every species they come into contact with even if it means tricking other species into starting fights with each other. I want to see a movie about the Kaleesh.
Even the mighty Admiral Thrawn had to resort to straight forward tactics to beat the Kaleesh. With primitive weapons too, legendary
".. Ah fuck just bomb the place!"
@@cyrwynelius8221 i totally just read that in his voice lol
General Grevious and his people should get a prequel series
The 2003 clone wars portrayed him in such a good way!
They portrayed him as an absolute mad lad, wiping the floor with Jedi.
They did but George Lucas said he was too similar to Vader so they changed him to more of a coward!
@@michaelcarney6280 Which was ironic, because in an knterview lucas literally explained that greivous was an allegory to what anakin would become.
Yes, that would be such a cool story to see.
@@theneef174 Why is Grevious so different from the 2003 clone wars to The clone wars and Episode III? In 2003 he's an unstoppable killing machine and then he turns into a coward. I'm going off what George Lucas said in an Interview!
*Fun fact:* Apart from Grievous, another important Kaleesh was Saes Rrogon, a Sith who served the Original Sith Empire during the Great Hyperspace War, who, along with the crew of a ship called "Harbinger", accidentally jumped 5041 years into the future (shortly after the death of Jacen Solo and the end of the Second Galactic Civil War) due to a hyperspace malfunction.
I owned that book and was halfway through it when some moron stole it at my school like 6 years ago
@@Adam_Johns damn dude that sucks balls!! What sort of a douchebag does that shit 🤬
@@SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs I don't know. I had got it from a bookstore when I was visiting my grandma.
I've read that book at least twice and I'm about to go re-read it again after I finish the series I'm currently working on. It's a great book, does a really good job with horror closer to the end.
@@shadownightshade2420 Yeah. Shame the same cannot be said about the author himself. He said on his Twitter account that fans who criticized the sequels for having forced diversity were despicable beings and told them to f*ck off
General Grievous: A Star Wars Story. Who's with me, people?
Yes
Disney making a movie about the most brutal war criminal in the setting? Unlikely.
I agree
Anyone but Disney pls! I don't want Kathline Kennedy Being in this! Or jj Abrams
This would be an amazing fan film
The Rebels: we’re using guerrilla tactics against the empire but we’re vastly outgunned and out numbered things don’t look good.
The Kaleesh: No blasters, No Beskar? No problem! 😎
Hell yeah 🗣️
Mace Windu: General Grievous will run and hide as he always does: He's a coward.
Grievous: *Mauls down four or five Jedi at the same time with helicopter spinning lightsaber moves*
Mace was always wrong
@@TheEmpireAnimations Which was strange how he was on the council. He had an arrogance which was completely opposite the Jedi code.
@@cchavezjr7 maybe because he was so powerful, they wanted to make sure he wouldn’t become a sith? Idk
@@trololopez2437 Possibly. It seemed he carried a lot of weight on the council as well, as if he was a permanent member like Yoda. In some parts, he's condescending and acts very dismissive to Jedi below him and hell, even basically tells Anakin he never trusted him. I never liked how he was written. I really disliked his character.
Grevious was written to be a coward. Mace was correct, just like how he was correct about Anakin, the Simp.
Good lord, I knew the Kaleesh were impressive warriors. However, resisting the Empire for 10 years and getting some special treatment by empire standards when they had lost, now that is extremely impressive.
Nice fusion of Galaxy-Eyes Photon Dragon and Garchomp dude
@@akumaking1 Thank you, a friend did the artwork.
Yep, it sure is.
@@akumaking1 holy shit. That's like, my favorite yugioh archetype and gen IV pokemon combined into one! That's amazing
Let's not forget that Kaleesh not only manage to resist the empire for an entire decade long before the Resistence was a thing.
No no no, the Kaleesh manage to beat and resist a galactic spawning empire for 10 years, with just regular standard ballistic weapons, these warriors are so badass, that they din't need any fancy or shining advance Sci-Fi high tech, THEY LITERALLY RESIST A GALATIC EMPIRE JUST WITH BALLISTIC AND KNIVES WEAPONS IN A GALAXY WHERE EVERYONE USES ENERGY WEAPONS.
And admital Trawn, ADMIRAL TRAWN HIMSELF, was so baffle by the fact the Kaleesh had out manouver and outsmart him at every turn, that he literally had to nuke the crap out the planet to beat them.
Good thing these guys din't have access to Blasters, energy or Veska or Corotosis blades or else they would single handely take out the empire
Grievous in the afterlife: "Was I a good warrior, my love?"
Ronderu: "No. You were the best"
In fact the word Sheelal had a special meaning among the Kaleesh.
"The Dreamer & The Dreamt One."
😢
Yes
IM NOT CRYING YOU'RE CRYING
Oh God that hurt
'Thrawn couldn't make heads or tails of their art'
Me: Impossible.
I mean,they litteraly had guns,you can't dodge bullets like you would with a blaster bolt.The stormtroopers also didn't have the right equipment to deal with bullets.
@@menancingsnom6221 that's not what I meant, and it was a joke
@@derektoews5586 Oh,sorry
@@menancingsnom6221 Btw, in Thrawn's case, 'art' does mean conventional arts instead of fighting arts. This is a guy who sees straightforward tactics to be crude & stupid, saved only as a last resort while other options are exhausted. He's for actually studying the arts of many cultures, especially that of his enemies, be it out of genuine interest or to actually beat his enemies at their own game.
@@menancingsnom6221 but i thought that guns would be useless aganist plastoid unless it it was shot around neck area or visors.
Maul: loses his legs; survives
Anakin: loses his arms, legs, and gets burned; survives
Padme: Sad; dies
Grievous: loses almost everything.
Women am I right?
@@CataciousAmogusevic They are the greatest mystery in the universe
Padme: I have nothing to live for
Her newborns: What the hell
@@rmansfield6 Yeah XD
Kaleesh are prime examples of the republic’s corruption. Using them to fight a war that they kinda started by siting a coup and when invaders came to enslaved them they did nothing, and when they finally did something they fought with the invaders. In doing so they create one of their most feared and dangerous enemies. Grievous is definitely a hero in his story because in his mind and rightly so he was fighting against a corrupt government that only used and mistreated them. So honestly I don’t blame grievous or the kaleesh joining the Separatists they seemed like the better option
One other small fun fact: Qymaen Jai Sheelal's grandmother was one of the Kaleesh warriors who fought against the Bitthaevrians.
I mean it also comes down to the slavers stopping any of their voices from being heard and the jedi and republic only seeing one side in this conflict, the Jedi should have listened to the Kaleesh when they got involved
Great point, but it has to be said, if the Jedi hadn’t shown up when they did, grevious would have straight up genocided the huk.
@@jdcrosier2682 well the huk wanted to do the same to the kaleesh
@@jdcrosier2682 I don't think that would have been a great loss, one less corrupted and slavery using species in the republic, it falls down to the Jedi and Republic not listening to the Kaleesh's side when they finally heard of what was going on.
This...this is why I love star wars. The effort put into world building is amazing and draws me further into it every video I watch
🙂
Yes the universe goes so far and there is so much to talk about.
imagine when you get to know one piece
Imperial Officer: Any genius ideas against the Kaleesh admiral?
Thrawn: Uhh... Ah what the hell. Nuke em!
That will only piss them off more
Thrawn : Let them join the empire and let them govern themselves in any other preferable treatment they desire otherwise we don't want to piss them off again
As much as I love Lucas and Filoni. They were absolutely stupid and brain empty for turning him into a joke. Absolutely infuriating. Gendy Tartakovsky is the only one that did him justice.
Yeah, Grievous's portrayal in The Clone Wars is one of its few issues, but BOY is it a BIG ISSUE in my opinion. It really feels like they made Grievous so weak and pathetic that it's surprising he doesn't just die from tripping on a pebble or something
@@withiethewither1993 my biggest issue with the show personally is that the jedi consistently forget that the Force exists
I never enjoyed that show because it only took the Republic point of view. Even though they show some parts of the separatist, they never try to show that the clones and the Jedi were also the bad guys. A war is a war. Both sides have their way of seen things and I was expecting one season with the Republic point of view and then other seasons with the separatist point of view
@@mercury2157 ikr. "Oh no i cannot reach that or i cannot open this door" (litterally can use the force to unlock it)
@@AlechiaTheWitch or a lightsaber for that matter
Grievous has always been my most favourite character and I always thought the Kaleesh were an absolute amazing species in Star Wars. Thanks for making this video! ^^
Grievous is my favourate character too
Agreed 2004 is real gravous
Thrawn: Despite extensive analysis of the enemies culture and artwork, I am left perplexed and my results are inconclusive. Therefore, I recommend we employ orbital bombardment
Imperial officer: you got this… from artwork?
The Kaleesh manage to do all this with primitive weaponry and no help at all. These guys make a better resistance than the rebels! Now imagine what would happen if they did join?
The Empire would straight just give up everything cause their don't want to mess with them.
@@loganwhitney8471
Sounds about right. Who needs a Jedi when u got these warriors!
@@z-man1237 Tbh if Grievous had that mask on the right pic any Jedi, Clone or any Republic soldier would be way too scared to even look at him. To the point they would stay in their ship in orbit
Pretty sure the rebels favored old republic ideals to much for the kaleesh to ever want to fight with them.
That would be epic.
There we go much better. Grievous' people in general were rather violent.
I still remember my apprentice in SWTOR under the sith inquisitor.
I haven't played the games but I'm very sure that is a Jedi kaleesh as well, in the Jedi consular if I'm correct
@@NP3GA yap there is. I wonder if he as a jedi still had his kaleesh beliefs or if he completely abandoned that for the jedi code.
@@tomriddler1926 sudly we don't know and now the only thing in my mind is how much I want to see a story about a kaleesh who discover's that his is force sensitive and is trained by Luke all the while he managed to let of the hatred he had for the Jedi and then he teach that to his people as well
Speaking of SWTOR, why the Kaleesh species isn't an option when creating a new character?
@@wargamesmaster it would be silly to have a reclusive specie running around all over the place
General grievous species are so freaking cool I wish we seen more of his people
I just wished we seen more of grievous in general
@@dim-mantis-a1134 wait...
'saw'
Yes I 100% want to see some more of them!
Maybe see more of them as "AGENTS OF CRIMSON DAWN "
The art depicting the Kaleesh is very inconsistent, with either reptilian, bat like, or human like faces. They are also depicted as either digitigrade or plantigrade. What's canon?
I like to think its species diversity. For example, in our world we have skin color differences and ethnic background can influence our looks.
I’m pretty sure the look they had in Grievous’ story is canon, I just can’t see them with lizard like heads.
@@thirdplanet4471 A highly unlikely case if Kalee is actually as hostile as depicted here. Diversity flourishes only when living conditions are conducive. The way their planet is out to fuck them like all the time & their people constantly at war with each other, not to mention their fanatical & rigid adherence to their respective martial cultures, such vast biological differences would have long been eliminated before the greater galaxy would even come into contact with them.
There is no Canon, in legends they were reptilian but once disney got their disgusting fingers into the SW franchise they can now change it as they see fit
@codas Soundwave asking the hard facts.
Everyone's got to love the chief clanker himself! Grievous lost a pretty awesome body, to get an even cooler one.
Admiral Thrawn: “To understand and defeat your enemies you must understand their art and culture 🧐”.. Takes one look at Kaleesh art.. “WTF is this!!.. Screw it just bomb them into submission”😂
So wait, those were just skull masks? I thought their species was just so awesome they were just naturally had skulls for faces.
I mean to be fair, we've seen a fair share of species with weird biology, so people with actual skeleton faces wouldn't be that surprising.
I thought it was just an exoskeleton type thing
I thought it was there Genetics as well,but it became badass to me once i realized that they NEVER took them off to the point that we thought it was apart of them.
Vader when the helmet comes on: So do I get to have 4 spinny arms too?
Palpatine: Nope just loud breathing
Vader: NOOOOOOOO
I could definitely see some of these badasses becoming Mandolorians.
Forsure
Here's the comment I wanted to see.
I would like to see some NonHuman Mandos, actually. Not that just ANY species would be seen as worthy of joining the warriors, though. Here is the best example of a species that would be awesome to get included.
The Kaleesh, Wookies, Trandoshan, Tusken Raiders, Yuuzhan Vong (I'm only adding them cause I'm kinda curious) would be the most badass and deadliest Mandolorians in the galaxy.
@@loganwhitney8471 Wookies aren't even sentient. Report to your closest imperial re-education center as soon as possible
Imagine getting your ass kicked by a people who willingly go into battle with a technological handicap
thrawn: *can't make heads or tails of Kaleesh art* ok...bomb them.
kaleesh civilization: *proceeds to wage a 10 year long war with the whole empire*
some bug man: first time?
No the bombardment is what ended the war between the Empire and the Kaleesh
I would really love to see the Kaleesh in the Rebellion and/or New Republic eras.
How they feel about the New Republic, a new government or just a repeat of the one that abused them? How would Luke's new Jedi interact with them after what the old Jedi did? What did the Kalee do with their own force sensitives? Are there any Kalee colonies or populations still out there in the wider galaxy?
Could be some interesting stories to tell.
Yeah that's sounds awesome for a new story
Imagine if Grievous was force sensitive he would be so powerful even with out body enhancements like in the movies. Also I believe that the Kaleesh could have their own movie like for example Grievous being the demigod like figure in his society fighting the Yamrii and how he became a cyborg.
It's likely that Grievous _was_ Force Sensitive, seeing as he had prophetic dreams. Though with the loss of Ronderu and then later, like, 90% of his body his connection to the Force was likely severed or weakened severely.
This is what I mean they can do so much with the star wars universe besides ooo Jedi make object go woosh.
There is 2 part series that covers the story in detail.
He tried to make himself Force-sensitive by transfusing blood from Jedi Master Syfo Dias. That it didn't work he considered a major personal failing.
This is why Grevious is one of my favorite characters. I hate how newer star wars media portrays him as such a wimp who relies on dirty tricks. He used to be such an unstoppable juggernaut that only Obi Wan could defeat.
Obi Wan.. and apparently Gungans.
The mandalorians after watching this video: I would like to make an alliance
Imagine Grievous in a beskar body.
@@dalekrenegade2596 well then god help the jedi
@@neonbatteries4389 Worst part is, God doesn't technically exist in Star Wars, so...shit
@@derektoews5586 what about force? Oh wait i forgor 💀... The force would be satisfied cause there were too many light siders at the time.
damn grievous's species' story is kinda just sad, the corrupt republic just didn't give a shit about them.
FINALLY, someone recognizing the truth! I really want a series centering around Qymaen jai Sheelal's story.
I have for a while. Like... It's frankly distressing how much I admire his character. And my distaste for his interpretation in the 2008 Clone Wars, especially compared to Genndy Tartakovsky's version in the 2003 Clone Wars series.
Than I recommend the fanfiction "A single decision". A Grievous centered story with his past as Qymaen being one of the important plot points.
Bro Grievous in legends is such a GOAT and tragic character ol boy was just tryna take care of his people all while ripping through Jedi like a chainsaw.
I haven’t been able to find anything about the kalesh and I’m glad that u made this they truly are the most badass Star Wars species
I just realized. Had things turned out differently, Grievous could have been amazing friends with Anakin:
-Both had their lives ruined by slavers.
-Both struggled with anger issues growing up.
-Both trained hard to become powerful fighters.
-Both were considered the champions of their factions.
-Both would slaughter their oppressors years later (the Huk and Tusken Raiders, respectively)
A few more things:
-They both lost the woman they loved.
-They both hated the Jedi deeply.
-They both lost most of their organic body.
-Both were defeated by Obi wan.
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And they were both used by the Sith for the Sith selfish goals.
@@agostonpitlik8045 And those Siths in the same way that they used them for their dark plans, they also got rid of them the moment they were no longer useful.
Sadly we never got to see them in TCW... The only example we had was Grievous... But he wasn't that great of a representation, considering that he barely contained much left of his former life.... And also he just sucked, in TCW lol.
Grievous is extremely weak. The og clone wars version of grievous is his true power
Man, imagine if the Kaleesh had joined the Rebel Alliance instead? They would have destroyed the Empire much sooner.
The Alliance to Restore the Republic was only formally created in 2BBY, so about 7 years after the Kaleesh joined the Empire.
@@estebson So? They could have still joined the Rebel Alliance later, am I right?
@@samuelebincoletto637 Like the video said, they came to respect the Empire in some way for their resilience and when they joined, they were allowed a degree of autonomy on themselves. So they probably saw no need for them to then join a Rebellion.
@@estebson Good point but i still love the idea of the Kaleesh joining the Rebel Alliance, i also find it kind of fitting since they have been opressed for so long.
so basically... general grievous was a hero all along?
Before the clone wars:
"Hello there"
"Padawan Kenobi, your master is a chad one"
Good lord, good thing thw Kaleesh don't have access to blaster technology or energy blades (Or whatever those electric Magna Guard Staff ares called)
Imagine if the Kaleesh could produce their own blaster and energy balde weapons, they would single handely won the clone wars and wipe out the Huk species entirely.
Nevertheless, I just love the fact that in a Galaxy where everyone uses energy weapons and blades, the most badass warrior race uses ballistic weapons and regular blades and is still able to go toe to toe with basically anybody, because my man, if a warrior race is so badass that you have to bssically gave them less technology to balance them out, then my Kaleesh homies are WAY too overpowered.
Kaleesh: the Fremen of the Star Wars Universe.
This is why I understood Grevious and why he hated the Jedi. Don't blame him one bit.
So I think it would be super awesome if Disney would allow for the major supporting characters to be explored in films or shows. Imagine watching a season or two of General Grevious's journey to the Grevious we see in the clone wars.
they did that with Han Solo and it bombed so they stopped :P
Yeah, but that movie failed more from the depiction of the story arc rather than the content itself. Poor selection of the majority of actors and too much of a new age feel alienated the fan base. I was thinking more along the lines of a gritty tv show similar to something like the Mandalorian than Han Solo
The fact that Grievous is a God to his people satisfies me to heaven and beyond.
Don't underestimate slugthrowers! Most Star Wars tech has been developed to counter energy weapons, so a ballistic weapon has many advantages.
Also can be suppressed and is much harder to counter with a lightsaber.
I listened to the entire general grievous backstory and now this. Man ... huge respect to grievous.
He was the last Khaleesh slave.
I had an Idea that Grievous dose have some surviving family like grandchildren, and one grandson was force-sensitive, the idea is Luke Skywalker ads the new-republic in liberating the Kaleesh home world and as Luke, Han and Leia negotiate with the ruler of the Kaleesh, the grandson attack Luke with a throwing disc weapon that he summons back with the force, Luke was scared in the back but it was not fate and he got back up fine, some Kaleesh bodyguards were ready to attack the grandson before Luke asked them to stand down and talked with him
Luke: Who are you?
Grandson: You will not know me but I know you, you are the apprentice of Obi-wan Kenobi, are you not.
Luke: Yes, he was my first Master.
Grandson: Good, then do you know of the one known as General Grievous?
Luke: Yes, he was a cyborg Kaleesh that led the CIS during the clone wars and was killed by Obi-wan nearing its end, but what dose this have to do with us?
Grandson: Before he was made a machine, he sired many children, some were believed to have been killed, but some survived and had children of their own, I am the grandchild of his seventh wife.
Luke: So, this is about revenge?
Grandson: It is, but not in the way you expect, Your master is dead, honour demands I kill his child or successor, as you were his apprentice, that is you, but your actions here today, you saved my people and drove the empire from our home, to kill you after helping us would be a disgrace, with that scar, the debt is paid.
Luke: Your grandfather may not be seen favourably by the rest of the galaxy, but I understand the pride you put into your heritage, and I'm happy to see you can put it aside for the good of your people, I do sense great power in you, you have the force?
Grandson: Yes, I have survived the empire's attempts to find me, even those Inquisitors could not capture me, I have lived with my power for many years, despite the history of my people and the jedi, I would he honoured to join your order.
Luke: I leaned what the old republic and jedi did to your people, what they did that drove your Grandfather to become what he was, it was a disgrace, but hopefully with time, like the wounded you inflicted, things between us can heal. (offers his hand)
Grandson: (takes the hand and shakes)
Imagine being so outmatched by a bunch of angry guys with swords that you have to nuke just to win.
"Ok good news, I just took out one of their demi gods so their morale should be crippled."
"Wait which one did you kill?"
"The female, why?"
"... God help us all."
when your favourite RUclipsr posts a video about your favourite characters species: **Visable happiness**
You neglected to mention Gor, Grievous' emotional support roggwart.
I could just imagine Thrawn struggling to understand the Kaleesh's art, like some freshman cramming for finals week.
"This isn't ART! THIS IS YOUR GRANDFATHER'S SHIN BONE TAPED TO THE CARAPACE OF A GIANT BUGS HAND!"
Hmm, you forgot about the reason as to how and why he became a cyborg: all it took was the recent addition to the Lost Twenty, the death of a certain Jedi several years back, a simple shuttle crash, and blood transfusions from said certain Jedi.
Kaleesh are just the spiritual descendants of the Mando species
Bitch are you serious 😂 ? The mandalorian are like bobcats compared to the tigers that are the kaleesh.
And less genocidal
I wish General Grevious backstory made it onscreen show or movie. Especially show. HUGE missed opportunity in clone wars
the kaleesh are the most amazing badass spieces ever
Somehow, I can see the alliance made of the Kaleesh, the Mandalorians and the Geonosians work.
That my friend, would be the most fearsome force the galaxy has ever seen.
It’s just a big group of clannish warrior peoples who don’t like being told what to do by outsiders. I assume we can throw in the Togorians with the rest of the Mandalorians. Might as well toss in the Cathar while we’re at it
@@michaelangelomaimone3181 Not sure throwing in the Cathar with the Mandalorian is a good idea since the former might still have some grievances with the latter committing acts of genocide against them a long time ago.
Don't forget the wookies
@@alejandroelluxray5298 or the droids attacking them
some of the most honoured Jedi were Kaleesh
I know this is strange but I have a head cannon that the Kaleesh can grab weapon and objects with there feet and fight like 2003 Grievous. Just sounds cool to me I guess
Now I want to see the kaleesh throw down against the noghri. The wookees can referee.
General Grievous: Patriot, Jedi killer, great fighter.
In two words: total badass
It's sad that grievous started out as a good guy hunting slavers. Only to be abandoned by the jedi (even if they didn't know it would feel like the people you helped now won't help you on return). Even after that he didn't give up his fight and met a kindred spirit only for her to be killed by the species the jedi should be helping him against. Then gets sabotaged manipulated and twisted into pure evil.
Only rivaled by the Mandolorians in Badassness
Gotta disagree with your title, Geetsly. The most badass species in Star Wars is the Gen'Dai.
There's a reason the CIS had one of each.
When even Thrawn doesn't know how the frick he can perfectly beat a species.
EU Grievous >>> Banta Pudu >>> Disney Grievous
Kaleesh are absolutely rad! I have a few oc’s on stand by that love taking the piss out of mandalorians. Its strange how pretty much none of the other species that can rival a Wookiee and transdoshan strength get shown too often…cept maybe lassats?4:22 PFFT! The republic pulled a krogan maneuver with the kaleesh?? That’s priceless!
Damn grievous had a girl
Grievous was a Chad. The man had _ten wives_ and _thirty children_
Absolute Chad
star wars doesnt seem to like orbital bombardment that much.
because why make things easy when you can just wage war for 10 years against a bunch of damn savages when you could just obliterate them.
What good is capturing a planet if you reduce it to an irradiated hellhole in the process? What good is subjugating a race if you greatly reduce their population and planetary wealth? What good are they to you at that point? What good is winning a war if it cost you so much to win? They lost a lot while fighting the Kaleesh, and lost many spoils by bombarding Oden.
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it costs nothing. we have the whole galaxy and its endless resources.
the war is not to defeat the enemy, it is not to get their resources or to subjugate them.
it is solely to destroy them to the very last.
do not be so weak as to count the dead, for billion more will take their place as worlds burn and stars fall.
I'd love to hear more of the Kaleesh, if there is any more to tell. They are a very interesting and badass species
So it was the Kaleesh Thrawn omega ordered! This is a tactician bar none, Sussed out Vader was Anakin by his space fighting pattern, a man who routinely out maneuvered enemy strategists as if walking across the room, so intelligent even Darth Sidious made him one of 13 grand admirals despite not being human, and only executed subordinates only when it was egregious incompetence. Mad props to the Kaleesh for stymieing the greatest tactical mind in millenia.
How did the Yuuzhan Vong view the Kaleesh? With the Wookiees, they wouldn't invade Kashyyyk because they didn't want to fight them in their own turf.
We need one of these guys in a TV show
Mandalorians vs Kaleesh, hand on hand combat...oh boy
You know your winning when thrawn gets confused
General Grievous is my favourite character in star wars because he looks cool and is a badass ( yeah Vader, Maul, Dooku and the Senate himself were too 😂), I have enjoyed so many of you're vids and often rewatch them and I yes I do hope you'll make more Grievous vids in the future 🤞🤞
So there is 2 planets art that Trawn could not decipher? Kalee and a water planet I think from heir to the empire books.
He blasted both to oblivion.
Every villain has a story that explains why they did what they did.
As a star wars fan, I didn't know a lot about General Grievous' backstory so this was nice to see!
"Impregnable armor" I mean, it was pretty pregnable when he went up against Obi-Wan Kenobi right before Order 66
Not exactly. Kenobi pried the armour apart at the thorax to get a clean shot at the organ sac. The armour would have held.
Imagine if they became/Joined with Mandalorians. If both parties were not badass enough as it was, they would be after the fact.
Could the Khaleesh have become honorary Mandalorians?
Me: So how do you carry those big balls?
Kaleesh: We sling them around like flails.
Me: Doesn’t it hurt?
Kaleesh: Yes. Very.
Me: Don’t you lose testosterone that way?
Kaleesh: Nope. Actually we get more.
I want to see the Kaleesh and Dathomirian Zabraks go at it. It would be a good war
to answer the question at the end of the video...yes, more about the kaleesh!
grievous’s legends origin story is so much better!
If Grevious was once an excellent marksman, imagine if he'd gotten his robo-mitts on that weird lightsaber rifle that Jocasta in addition to his Cybernetics. Anti-Jedi Aim-bot.
My name is Xalek
You know Grievous isn’t even that evil yes he went overboard with the Huk but they started it! But the stuff that happened after he became a cyborg his mind was altered and he essentially became a slave.
I also thought it was pronounced "kaw-lee"
Wow, even Thrawn couldn't understand Kaleesh art?
This entire species was literally to angry to die
The kaleesh have always been my favorite species and always will be. They need to be featured on Disney plus in some way again.
They truly are badass!
In fact, I'm trying to come up with a novel (or perhaps a trilogy) involving them some time after the Second Galactic Civil War.
A mini series about Grievous' life would be great, too bad Disney is busy shitting itself instead.
Petition to find Grievous' mask and return it to the Kaleesh, where it belongs
the mask is located on the Thraw's oficce, i think it's possible to view in one of the Rebel's eps
Makes you wonder what became of the children of Grievous🤔
The republic trying to assert their dominance over every species they come into contact with even if it means tricking other species into starting fights with each other. I want to see a movie about the Kaleesh.
Even in the Old Republic era the Kaleesh would make the Taung blush with how absolutely testosterone filled they are.
Ah yes, the fearsome Kaleesh.
From the planet Caylee..