So glad you making these, always looked at my divine casters as "those guys you have to bring along to fix the shit the bad guys break" and wasted space in a fight. Sort of a "No Damage, No Awesome" mindset. This series has made me excited about seing divine casters as powerhouses to be reconned with the same way the enemy divine casters seem to be to me and I could never duplicate.
Divine fasers in ad & d are summoning bots. The amount of clutter they can summon is crazy. And really, special cases aside that is their best use. Mages have other jobs than summoning, even though mage summons are great.
I never knew Entropy Shield was that good! I always saw the spell and passed it because I was always fixated on heal. Today, I just beat Neverwinter Nights 1. I made a Paladin with 1 level dip of Sorcerer and I created a monster :D haha! The joys of Divine Shield & Divine Might, quaffing a potion and using True Strike on your enemy is wonderful, especially since True Sight will always cast, no matter the armor that you're using.
Dual wield finesse mace cleric with one monk level, high wis and dex. Loads AC for free before buffs. All the ac after buffs. Add in clerical attack buffs.... Travel domain for haste, or get an item with perma haste..
1) Fire Seeds apply effects in AOE like Greater Deathblow, Poison Weapons, Smite, Power Attack, Wizard Slayer spell failure, Called Shot. There are quite a few enemies, even in TOB, that are actually level 12 (siren like Demons and others dangerous enemies). Example: Greater Malison a group, then have Fighter activate Power Attack and throw Fire Seed at enemy in middle of Group. All will save vs. Death at -8 or be stunned for 2 Rounds. Very nice! 2) Also, If you target enemies next to an enemy protected from fire and magical weapons, the AOE will still hit that immune enemy, making it great for disrupting casters. 3) They seem to last forever in some mods. You can travel 20 hours and still have them in inventory, so check the mod and try it out.
Hmm they didn't last on rest for me, yeah I heard you can give them away I don't do so because it doesn't feel like that should be the case tbh but to each his own. PFF should be fixed to where you dont get interrupted while taking fire damage if you're immune. That might be an A tweak im not sure now gotta do some more testing it seems without mods. Thanks for watching and commenting friend!
36:00 blade barrier is amazing if you abuse it with sanctury, sanctury + blade barrier then stand next to stuff and watch them die for free. It's WAY better than you're giving it credit for.
Anomen in BG2 is lawful neutral before his Order of the Radiant Heart trial (after which he either becomes LG or CN). So you do have a neutral npc cleric in BG2 and you can keep him that way if you want to.
@@Merknilash No. The only difference in gameplay is that if he doesn't become good, he doesn't get the WIS bonus but the WIS bonus is really irrelevant since he is basically a pure cleric and will have tons of spells anyway. You are not going to be amazed by a few extra level 1 and 2 spell slots.
Wondrous Recall: You can make yourself a Quasi-Sorcerer with this (I'm only exaggerating a tiny bit): You can basically fully control, which spells youll recover - even those currently not memorized! All you have to do, is un-memorize all spells you've used till last rest (left click on the greyed out used spells, if unclear what I mean) down to the tier/level you habe the 2 desired spells you want to (re)memorize. Wondrous Recall will recall only greyed out spells, no blanks. Example: you're a Druid and want to use a Call Lightning (level 3), cause you're in an outdoor area. Unfortunately you didn't memorize them. You've already used an Iron Skin (level 5) - and don't need another right now - and a Deathward (lvl 4), so usually WR would restore these first. Now left click on both of these, and don't fill these empty slots yet. Go to level 3 spells and un-memorize (or use) 2 spells, that you don't need right now - for example's sake: 2 Protection from Fire. Fill both level 3 blanks with Call Lightning, cast WR: Voila, you can use 2 CLs now without resting. Now you can also reapply the spells on level 4 and 5, so you won't miss them after next rest. This is pretty helpful even for Clerics, since you sometimes just need more Armors of Faith or another Remove Fear instead of an additional Aerial Servant or whatever in a drawn out fight. I actually used this strategy to get like 10 additional AoFs during Amelyssan fight on a F/C solo run - which was in the end the only spells that mattered
Couple points on Blade Barrier: 1. It stacks with Globe of Blades, forcing enemies to roll two saving throws in a row. 2. It works in same fashion as regenerate and poison effects, Hasted characters tick them twice as often. Same thing applies to Globe of Blades too. 3. It goes through MR. 4. Planetars can cast this. Make sure to cast it before running them in melee and see the gibs fly. 5. It's a 6th level spell, so at least in theory it has a chance to hit Liches. For practical purposes, I could see Aerie using it when she's mage tanking.
i've been replaying through vanilla IWD2 recently and have found your vids invaluable (especially at level up for the party sorcerer, and during the early parts of the game where the spell selections are more limited); there's some great little lessons on how to assess the utility of spells in general when reading through the spell descriptions which i've been able to try to apply myself thank you for taking all the time to make these, has made my IWD2 playthrough go a bit smoother than it might've otherwise!
I can't get enough of the comedic contrast between you drooling on and on about how great an S-tier spell is, only in the next breath do a complete 180 and say the next spell utter dogsh@t lol. Re-watches are King
Fireseeds work well for spreading greater deathblows effect as well. You can give the fireseeds to a warrior and have them use them with GB to spread the effect to wipe out lower level monsters.
I reckon one of the reasons Fire Seeds is so interesting a spell is because the fire seeds themselves and its AoE are compatible with various abilities, including Poison Weapon, Assassinate, Cleave, Deathblow, Greater Deathblow et al, along with lots of innate abilities such as a WS’s Miscast Magic and a Vampires level drain. This means that they can be situationally useful or at least interesting when played in combo with multiple classes either in the party or with a Dual or Multi Classed char. Again, lending to how interesting a spell it can be, it’s also quite easy to gain above 100 Fire Resistance on your frontline through various passive and active buffs, not only negating the non party friendly damage but also allowing for opportunities to heal the frontline. I reckon that Probably the reason that the number of people who say they rate Fire Seeds compared to how useful it is in most situations is that its one of a few spells in the game that veterans can play around with and get some effective or even just surprising results even after hundreds of hours play. Edit: typo
Yea really spreading the AOE with fighter abilities is about what its good for with the testing I did, but it feels like cheating to give them to pure fighters and I'd still rather use EET for my fighter druid XD. Still fun to play with i suppose, thanks for watching and commenting friend!
Putting them in ammo bags after casting some makes them permanent, after their duration runs out. I frankly love them, area effect bypasses many protections. I’m particularly a fan of using them with called shot. Multiple shots reduce magic resistance, allowing a fully buffed up dragon to take Abi-Dahzims, and get trashed.
I wonder what he would say if he saw himself today, other than "much love dude hope you're having a wonderful blessed day." That much is a given that we all love.
@@Batchibouzouk Nope, that's how the spell works in PnP but here's the thing, action economy matters in PnP and you have a /lot/ more options of summons.
Wasn't Ms. Blue Booty perma'd by a blade barrier in one of your TOB runs? George Michael I think, in Gromnir's dungeon. Great video sir, really enjoying this review series! Still hoping to see Buffalo Bill with his mancoat in a future run! ;) Conan is the one!
Conjure Fire Elemental was my saving grace for getting through Irenicus' dungeon with No Reloads and I think it's SCS denying you rests. Since going through SoD got enough exp to have Jahiera able to cast it. The duration and Immunity to Normal Weapons made the Duergar laughable. There actually is a really cool trick you can use with Heal. If you cast it on Raevilin Strathi (One of the Imprisonment Sphere victims in the Underdark), he'll give you the sword Albruin. Anomen failing his trial turns him Chaotic Neutral I believe.
I don't know what's wrong with Blade Barrier in your game, but I use it all the time(especially when soloing). I've had swarms of vampires converge on me and at least a few of them explode. Assassins try to backstab me and get ripped to shreds. basically any mid level enemy without MR can get wrecked by this. You can combine it with sanctuary, walk into a room and kill a bunch of enemies without them knowing what's going on. Very high level enemies do save against it quit often though.
@@Davaeornlol Try it with Haste. It should double the damage like how it does with poison or regeneration. Well it has been a long time since I did that combo. It used to do that in the original game years ago. It could also be used while you were invisible or in sanctuary. So you could run next to an enemy and it would slowly shred them while they would not be able to do anything. I think the mod spell revisions makes it more powerful so it strikes multiple times per round with a -6 vs breath penalty. What mod changes Conjure Animals to be able to summon werebears? That summon was absolute dogshit in normal game. It was about as good as Animal Summoning III.
Fireseeds is actually quite useful in ToB. The damage transfers directly, which means it bypasses protections. In addition, it can apply on-hit effects. So, either pass it to a fighter or be a f/d, then apply smite or in some cases greater deathblow and throw it at the mobs besides your well protected target. If there are non, you can even use your own summons
That is true for the base game which I should have mentioned, but with the changes to SCS (which are now quite old but predating this video) every mage in the game with the exception of irenicus in suldanessalar for some weird reason will have protection from fire, making them immune to not just the damage but pushback as well, nullifying the fireseeds completely.
blade barrier is usually ok with normal creatures where u collect them with Yan using staff of mage hit them with malice and just stand with some one invisible who will cast it. some how it does not break the invisibility so if you have alot in spell book it may be better before you run out of spell and switch to wands to finish off. its better to perform outdoors than indoors because lightning indoors is a god. so if you dont want to be touched and yet have the chance to do damage its a way to go. and the 7lvl spell version is much better just because of -2 penalty. also dont forget time stop does not prevent this spell from working even from devas. i remember one run where a solo cleric\mage took out 2 top left last seal guardians with 1 deva under time stop with no malice.
@@Davaeornlol maybe the save throws were modded up on insane im not sure. join the creatures and check it out. save vs spell tend to work better on fighters and clerics. works ok on normal, lets say 60% chance to hit for some named buddies bg2, goes up to 80% with malice thats 4 points for 5% each
@@Davaeornlol ive checked on normal difficulty saves vs spell of a goblin is 19 as a lvl 1 creature 7hp. on a legacy save is 20 (-4) lvl 13 and 101hp. no mods no scs
@@Davaeornlol i thought that save throws of 20 are considered of critical failer and are reserved for non existent 5% mr so there is always a chance to land something with a chance of 5%. that makes max possible mr=95. am i wrong?
Blade Barrier in an unmodded game can be considered S tier. If an enemy cannot inherently see invisible creatures then you can combine the Non-Detection cloak and a potion of invisibility after casting this and stand next to something to kill it. It's _really_ good in unmodded games. Spell Revisions nerfs it to auto-remove the caster's invisibiility but I'm not sure why it doesn't work for Dav. it's _supposed_ to proc on anything around you, not specifically something that attacks you like a Fireshield spell. Must be an SCS nerf.
English ain’t my first language, but to me it sounds as if you say Dolores Decay. Do-LO-res. I always thought it was pronounced DOLL-uh-r’s. But what do I know. Anyway, you’re always telling us to tell you when we think you’re wrong, and this is the best I could come up with. Thanks for a ton of useful videos.
In case you missed it, guys, from my comments on the High Level Abilities video, Greater Acuity works on abilities. You can with a fighter thief mage activate Greater Whirlwind, Assassinate and Critical Strike for one round. Here's another fun thing to do with Fireseeds. Give Fireseeds to a warrior and use Smite. Area effect Smite can blow all your enemies away. Your ranged fighters will have a field day. Can't be saved, if I recall correctly. Loved the video, love hearing about the spells I've never used. (I've only played the vanilla game)
The problem is you have to time it at the end of your alacrity, if you do it at the beginning it's not worth doing tbh over casting spells. FMT cant do it at all until 9mil xp, and that's only if you add a mod to break xp limit but if you did that would indeed be a ton of damage. The fireseeds and smite though is a classic combo for sure, It feels weird giving them to fighters though XD. Thanks for watching and commenting friend!
Truth be told, Shamans and all their 'bonus vs spectral undead spells' are insanely good in IWD! There are only two infinite ammo ranged weapons [Namely an axe and a dagger, other magical ammo is virtually non-existent] ; Shamans can use both. Spectral undead are super common, and serious trouble in IWD. On HoF Mode, your summons come with the same buffs as the AI, resting is severely limited so the Dancing thing is actually super useful, expendable summons [with poison immunity] for no spell slots is awesome. IWD doesn't have HLA's, so you don;t miss out on the best druid stuff, either. 10/10 Can't say enough good things about it for IWD.
Fire Seeds can be transferred to someone else in the party. The main use that I know of is handing them to an Assassin or Blackguard and having them chuck the Fire Seeds with Poison Weapon active, which poisons entire groups the way Arrows of Detonation does. That's not absolutely amazing (especially after EE Poison Weapon nerf), but it's ... something. EDIT: Oh yeah, also a Wizard Slayer/Druid dual can use Fire Seeds to inflict the Miscast on a group. Again, not great considering how bad the WS is on the whole, but something at least.
Fireseeds? I'll just get a Mage to cast Fireball. Heal is fantastic especially when I play a Cleric/Mage and put Heal into a Contingency for emergencies, the down side is it takes a long to to get LVL 18. Wondrous Recall I've often used when I don't want to rest in a dungeon and I recall hoping to get back Mass Cures and it usually works. Ariel Servants are very dangerous...found out that the hard way 😢. Sol's Searing Orb? I'll get a Mage to cast Melfs Minute Meteors.
Love your spell videos man, helped me look at spells I thought were garbage for consecutive playthroughs and really made the game fun again trying out new spell combos I never used before! Any thoughts on a tier list video featuring all the classes and kits and how they perform throughout the saga?
I really enjoy using Blade Barrier. The enemy doesn't need to be attacking you. I equip Anomen with Boots of Haste and then have him run around the battle field skewering enemies. It's so fun
@@Davaeornlol Thank you for your insight! I played these games for forever and only with your runthrough of the mage spells noticed the gem that is melf's minute meteors. How could I missed this gem!?
Doing a Legacy of Bhaal (vanilla) playthrough right now with a Totemic Druid and story companions, just finished Cloakwood. I have to say in Legacy of Bhaal summons are buffed significantly. Don't know how much it will affect the animal summoning spells though.
@@Davaeornlol Well I´m using Spirit Wolves/Lions mostly anyways so I guess I will stick with them until I get Fire Elementals (again, vanilla) in SoA...
Hey quick question… I’m playing bgee2 on Switch. Not sure if it includes Icewind Dale content for conjure animals spell. I don’t think it summons ware-bears; just normal brown bears. Does this change in later levels for Druid, or are the brown bears considered ware bears? Ps. Love ur videos man! Ur the BG GOAT Dav! Woot woot!
Do you think we could get a companion tier list? Maybe with their stats/special ability/quest rewards/best gear in mind! I know you play more evil but it’d be nice to hear your thought on all of them. Anyway keep it up! I love this content!
Hey man, brand new BG player and subscriber here, these guides have been super helpful, thanks. I was wondering what you think of BG3 based on what we know so far? I decided to play through the old BG games in preparation for 3, but it honestly looks so different from the classic games, I’m not sure how I feel about it. Was just curious what a veteran like yourself thought, thanks
Its divinity original sin 3 and won't be like bg1 or 2 in any way shape or form. I still think it will be fun to play, new rpgs aren't nearly as popular as shooters or mobas etc but I think every new rpg has a chance to really give you that powerful feel, the feel that you're in control an the only limitation is your imagination, we're nowhere near that, and lets be honest BG was nowhere near that, but it was still fun as hell, and I hope bg3 will be fun as hell in its own way, but it's going to be so different from the original games that the point of comparing them will be completely moot. Beamdog made an attempt and failed miserably (although their heart was in the right place for certain things, but for the most part the story, writing, characters, and dialogue were very poorly done)
Davaeorn yeah, damn, that’s pretty much what I thought. Ah well. Any suggestions for other RPGs similar to BG? There’s just something so captivating about the BG experience. I just feel like no modern RPGs can compare. Of course, like you said, there are still limitations to BG, but it’s the first RPG I’ve played in a long time that really pulled me in and had my full attention and enthusiasm until I finished it.
it summons usually 2 GARBAGE animals like leopards or mountain lions. I SWEAR I saw horses before but it's been so long I can't say for sure. Either way, non magical weapons, shit ac thaco and hp. Terrible summons all around.
About Fire Seeds, if I recall, Mivsan used it in his playthrough by giving them to a fighter and using the Deathblow? (death fighter HLA) so the explosion could kill multiple target
Versions of SCS changes some of the Icewind Dale spells. Unchanged (or using IWDalification without SCS), Entropy Shield just improves saves by 2 and gives resistances to elemental damage and that's it. And its duration is too short to justify a level 6 slot and it can be brought down by Breach or dispelled, so probably C tier. Impervious Sanctity of Mind, the level 7 spell, is basically Chaotic Commands, but self only and needs a level 7 slot. Completely redundant, RP tier. Chaotic Commands wasn't in Icewind Dale, It was replaced by this. The enhanced edition of Icewind Dale adds BG spells, but doesn't correct how redundant it makes ISoM. And neither does IWDalification for BG. In the version of SCS that Dav plays, Entropy Shield and ISoM were improved to function like Spell Immunity: Abjuration and Spell Shield, which allows you to protect your buffs. The level 5 spell, Shield of Lathander, was changed to Divine Protection and improved from a casting time of 8 to 1, and made to last 3 rounds instead of 2, which makes you immune to physical damage, like the spell Protection from Magical Weapons from mages. Unchanged, it takes almost 5 seconds to cast it and only lasts 12 seconds, which makes it harder to time when to cast it, since you really want it as an oh shit button. These are great guides, but there are some differences that radically changes the ranking of certain spells. Even the companion guide, Anomen isn't quite as good without these changes. Still best Cleric in the game, but not S+ tier.
32 HP, 15 dex and base AC 6 on the leopards, what a bunch of hot garbo. Those things would quickly become obsolete in BG1, let alone as a sixth level spell.
The mod(s) that changes conjure animals to summon greater werebears really changes things... Those bears suddenly carry the first half of SoA if you want to.
Definitely, dunno if its gonna suck ass or not but should be fun regardless I hope. Hopefully larian realizes what a HUGE DEAL I am and invite me to play early. I wont hold my breath though.
@@Davaeornlol from what I've seen so far it looks very different to bg2 but still very good, that might just be cos I was a fan of dos2 though. As far as I'm concerned ur a baldur's gate expert(gameplay wise at least) so they'd be silly not too, unfortunately I'm not with larion but will for sure be keeping my fingers crossed for ya. Keep up the awesome videos mate and looking forward to the level 7 guide 😄
Interesting you rank Aerial Servant so highly, I used to think they were amazing (before I started playing SCS), now I rely on Fire Elementals more because they have the fire resistance and seem much tankier for that reason only. And their bonus fire damage against mages that use Stoneskin. I don't really use summons for damage, mainly as lightning rods for enemy spells, even if it forces a spell caster to waste a Death Spell during a Time Stop, that's time that they aren't casting some Incendiary Cloud at me. And because they're invisible you can't even target them with any spell buffs like protection from fire.
Late and I don't know if it's relevant but fey are basically magic creatures in forest. So, pixies, fairies, petals, I'm pretty sure nereids, sirens, and nymphs are supposed to be fey but I'm not sure if the game codes them as such and not just blue elves.
ב"ה Anomen start as lawful neutral and can become either lawful good or chaotic neutral in his quest , so he can be a neutral cleric if you need him to be so.
The conjure animals spell can glitch rarely summoning one of the bears as a 18/18/18 fighter mage cleric with all the spells in the game only happens in like 3. Out of the hundred times I've casted it after it first happened to me. So keep an eye on your summoned bears they might break your game
Old school bladed barrier (curse of the azure blades D&D computer game) spell did massive damage. But ya I couldn’t make it proc or seen it proc on attack either.
I'm a bit late to the party, but what's the deal with conjure animals? I'm not getting werebears, only mountain ones like the spell description says. I have SCS, but no werebears!
Greater Werebears sounds like just the summons to boost with blood rage.😳. Let them get close to the enemy line, and cast blood rage. If they attack you, use Death Fog to dismiss. D, are you planning to cover the IWD added arcane spells? Some look pretty tasty…
@@Davaeornlol I’m betting one of the things that would help in terms of interest in these videos would be the interplay between spell protections and spell protection removal spells…for example… Improved Invisibility and spell immunity divination: This means you’re too late with khelben’s warding whip/spell thrust. Your target’s spell protections cannot be dispelled, and if they have protection from magic weapons up, you cannot breach them. Start paying attention to the messages, turtle up your party. When PfMW runs out, send in your fighters to attack, and hope to interrupt their spell casting. When spell immunity divination runs out, use true sight, and attack with spell thrust, to drop spell shield, and follow up with Khelbens to keep them from stacking spell protections. 🤓 Or have Jan Jansen. Detect traps thief ability at 100% ignores spell immunity divination. You just have to ignore turnip jokes…🤓 (Jan has those glasses of his which has a significant boost..)
Conjure Animals….somebody posted their stats on the wiki. ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Now, it turns out these Greater Werebears are from the werewolf rebalance mod from SCS. Otherwise, you get brown bears. Also, they have three attacks per…improved haste, and blood rage when they hit the enemy lines…have death fog ready after they’re done eating Firkraag. 🤣 160 hp, Thaco -3, 3 attacks per round, regen 5 hp per second, 50% resistance to cold/fire/magic/acid/ etc... level 20, strenght 22...
Can u make tutorial how to make perfect fighter, mage etc when tak secound class what weapon ale the best. I always play kensay with 2h sword or warrior/mage with sejmitars, but want to try something else
24:15 you know ho harm can be fun?:D Cleric rouge time stop tram where you STILL have to role to hit for some reason but the ads to hit is high :D or you can just use "all item use" Holly avenger-ing or Heaven Fury katana , your time frozen Lich or any opponent :D. BUT Heal is still so damn good....i kinda stuck with it. As for summon i like fire elemental because thy look badass (and do the job) I know its not meta i just like to lead an army of fire elemental's ans skeleton titans lead by my Shadow Tempes ork-rouge-cleric as it detecs and disable traps while leading a monster army :D summoned by my left behind wizard and cleric or druid aloes :D because ...that just how my team ended (with my monk next to her just in case wee need a stunning trike :D) doom is so much more fun with a monk ally :D Fun fact its looks even more epic that grater fire elemental lead the charge with normal smaller fire elemental :D as they fire-fist down anything that gets in the way :D "exploding punches are the bestXD"
@ 37:48 Blade Barrier is IMHO a "A" tier spell. Anomen used it against the Vampires and Mummys in Firkraags lair. Blade Barrier dished out 529 points of damage and Anomen single handedly killed them all.
I've played five thousand hours of baldurs gate online and more offline and I've seen it proc a combined total of 3 times for me and against me. Idk what the deal is but yeah.
@@Davaeornlol Anomen stood still and was completely surrounded by 11 enemies. All were attacking Anomen. I use BG2EE v2.3 like you. I could imagine it would be good against drow bypassing their magic resistance and high AC.
@@Davaeornlol It has to be bugged or something because I use Blade Barrier and Globe of Blades all the time, and it wrecks face every time. Procs every round, no problem.
DEVA or aeial? Aerial. Because its L6. DeVas are 7. You get devas as hla for paladins. Mages rather call down a planetar. Mage clerics get to spell trigger a tripple summon of aerials. Chain contigency it with 2 mordenkainens and a haste... Chop chop....
I know in AD&D 2e that Elf and gnomes are fey creatures, and still are in the next editions but I don't know if that is true for BG at all, that's the only fey I can think of that is in the game, so maybe spirit lock works on them or not
Conjure animals in vanilla EE is a lot worse. The bears have no regen, 70 hp and 1d12+6 damage 3 apr. They are ok as a bit of dps only because of 3 apr but aerial servant is better probably. Also servant lasts much longer.
Hay! Why am I a weirdo if I have Hexxat on my party? I played BG long time ago and now I'm back playing BG EE and was thinking about playing with her when I get to BG2EE. Also, do you include Siege of Dragonspear in your runs? I don't think I've seen you playing that, do you have any comments on SoD? I'm playing it just to know about the story.
It's pretty poorly done, the exploration aspect isn't bad at all, but it's a modern take on a classic, and the writing/plot/characters/story are way under par from what one would expect from a bg game. They changed so much crap around the story made more sense before than after. I could talk at length about what needed to be fixed tbh, most of it are quick and easy, re writing the main story could take weeks but it's all doable but its whatever. I find hexxat weird because her dialogue is so awful. If you're good, you kill her, shes an evil vampire, if you're evil you kill her, because nobody talks down to you (edwin knows his place), and if you're neutral you could go either way but her dialogue is such cringe sophistry bullshit I ended up murdering her on the spot in my first playthrough because I couldn't stand her. I've taken her in the past when we need a thief or xp but it's pretty weird tbh.
@@Davaeornlol well, i guess maybe i missed up something when i was a kid, but i dont remember having an explanation for why we kill Sarevok and end up in a lab/cell in bg2, so im just giving it a try, at least im having some fun in those siege fights, but the story seems out of place, maybe only at the end i will really know the conection between bg 1 and 2. Well, i wanted to try Hexxat when arriving at bg2, but i often dont take npcs' bullshit, so ill probably just end up killing her hahaha lets see how much of a bitch she is. Anyways thanks for the info man, God bless. Looking forward for those guide videos, im not watching your runs because i dont want to be spoiled on how to win thought fights, but once i finish bg2 im likely to watch quite a few of those.
Awesome timing on this, I'm running with a Fighter/Cleric for the very first time, about to hit cloakwood mines, and you just made me realize that critical strike guarantees that harm hits. I've never managed to endure Anomen long enough to get his HLAs I guess, because I wasn't even aware that was a thing but it's so obvious now. So once I get that unlocked, I can be harming fools all day. Noice! EDIT: Didn't Viconia get perma'd by a blade barrier in your George Michael run, below Gromnir's castle in Saradush?
I heard somebody else say that too im not sure now maybe, either way that makes 2 XD Thanks for watching and commenting friend! Also anomen doesnt get warrior hlas that's only for multis so careful with that.
@@Davaeornlol Oh, that thing about Anomen being dual-classed instead of a multi probably goes even further towards explaining why I had never noticed this interaction before, haha. First time rolling a fighter/cleric, I just kicked your namesake's butt and headed to the big city tomorrow for more adventures!
Animal Summoning is useful in one place in BG 2. In the Underdark, the Kua Toa dungeon, you need an animal to sacrifice to activate the Demon Knights so you can get Soul Reaver and the Girdle of Frost Giant Strength. Other than this niche situation, the spell is as useful as tips on a boar.
That’s really funny I’m playing BG for the first time I have vicoonia summon the air servent and was like what is this little shit and I had it attack Nerra and got Nerra permanently killed with one shot
Her dialogue when you pick her up is just so awful and she's so damn buggy. Everytime I've ever played with her I have to reload because she bugs out in someway preventing us from playing the game XD
S tier
- Conjure Animals 7:09
- Entropy Shield 15:31
- Heal 24:54
A tier
- Dolorous Decay 12:33
- Harm (S rank in base game) 21:59
- Aerial Servant 34:09
- Bolt of Glory (great for Demiliches) 38:53
- Spiritual Wrath (C tier for evil party) 51:46
B tier
- Conjure Fire Elemental 10:56
- Wondrous Recall 30:49
- False Dawn 41:59
C tier
- Spiritual Lock 1:55
- Animal Summoning III 6:07
- Fire Seeds 18:40
- Whirlwind 27:58
- Blade Barrier 36:10
- Sol’s Searing Orb 43:53
- Spiritual Wrath (A tier for good/neutral party) 51:46
Thank you, that is really comprehensive!
@Vinicius Ataide Only with the IWD version from the newest SCS. Since you get 2 greater werebears, which are extremely powerful.
@@squashedeyeball Greater Werebears comes from Druid rebalance (Tweaks Anthology), not SCS
@@fredericdaviaud4306 Ahh, thanks man. Isn't it included with the newest version of scs though? I'm running an older version, so I have no idea.
Thanks a ton buddy I'll add it to the list!
look at those 4 handsome bald men
Right said fred get @ me
So glad you making these, always looked at my divine casters as "those guys you have to bring along to fix the shit the bad guys break" and wasted space in a fight. Sort of a "No Damage, No Awesome" mindset. This series has made me excited about seing divine casters as powerhouses to be reconned with the same way the enemy divine casters seem to be to me and I could never duplicate.
They're a lot stronger with SCS for sure. Thanks for watching and commenting friend!
Divine fasers in ad & d are summoning bots. The amount of clutter they can summon is crazy. And really, special cases aside that is their best use. Mages have other jobs than summoning, even though mage summons are great.
I never knew Entropy Shield was that good! I always saw the spell and passed it because I was always fixated on heal.
Today, I just beat Neverwinter Nights 1. I made a Paladin with 1 level dip of Sorcerer and I created a monster :D haha!
The joys of Divine Shield & Divine Might, quaffing a potion and using True Strike on your enemy is wonderful, especially since True Sight will always cast, no matter the armor that you're using.
Nice! Thanks for watching and commenting buddy!
Dual wield finesse mace cleric with one monk level, high wis and dex.
Loads AC for free before buffs.
All the ac after buffs.
Add in clerical attack buffs....
Travel domain for haste, or get an item with perma haste..
1) Fire Seeds apply effects in AOE like Greater Deathblow, Poison Weapons, Smite, Power Attack, Wizard Slayer spell failure, Called Shot. There are quite a few enemies, even in TOB, that are actually level 12 (siren like Demons and others dangerous enemies). Example: Greater Malison a group, then have Fighter activate Power Attack and throw Fire Seed at enemy in middle of Group. All will save vs. Death at -8 or be stunned for 2 Rounds. Very nice!
2) Also, If you target enemies next to an enemy protected from fire and magical weapons, the AOE will still hit that immune enemy, making it great for disrupting casters.
3) They seem to last forever in some mods. You can travel 20 hours and still have them in inventory, so check the mod and try it out.
Hmm they didn't last on rest for me, yeah I heard you can give them away I don't do so because it doesn't feel like that should be the case tbh but to each his own. PFF should be fixed to where you dont get interrupted while taking fire damage if you're immune. That might be an A tweak im not sure now gotta do some more testing it seems without mods. Thanks for watching and commenting friend!
I just wanted to thank Davaeorn for this whole series and the arcane spells and all that, and say it's done SO MUCH GOOD for my mental health.
36:00 blade barrier is amazing if you abuse it with sanctury, sanctury + blade barrier then stand next to stuff and watch them die for free. It's WAY better than you're giving it credit for.
Eh it's good but really only on melee clerics
Anomen in BG2 is lawful neutral before his Order of the Radiant Heart trial (after which he either becomes LG or CN). So you do have a neutral npc cleric in BG2 and you can keep him that way if you want to.
Yeah I realized that afterwards LOL. Thanks for commenting friend!
I believe you can romance Viconia and turn her TN as another option.
Doesn't he suck bad if he fails his quest though and becomes CN?
@@Merknilash No. The only difference in gameplay is that if he doesn't become good, he doesn't get the WIS bonus but the WIS bonus is really irrelevant since he is basically a pure cleric and will have tons of spells anyway. You are not going to be amazed by a few extra level 1 and 2 spell slots.
Wondrous Recall: You can make yourself a Quasi-Sorcerer with this (I'm only exaggerating a tiny bit):
You can basically fully control, which spells youll recover - even those currently not memorized!
All you have to do, is un-memorize all spells you've used till last rest (left click on the greyed out used spells, if unclear what I mean) down to the tier/level you habe the 2 desired spells you want to (re)memorize.
Wondrous Recall will recall only greyed out spells, no blanks.
Example: you're a Druid and want to use a Call Lightning (level 3), cause you're in an outdoor area. Unfortunately you didn't memorize them.
You've already used an Iron Skin (level 5) - and don't need another right now - and a Deathward (lvl 4), so usually WR would restore these first.
Now left click on both of these, and don't fill these empty slots yet.
Go to level 3 spells and un-memorize (or use) 2 spells, that you don't need right now - for example's sake: 2 Protection from Fire.
Fill both level 3 blanks with Call Lightning, cast WR: Voila, you can use 2 CLs now without resting.
Now you can also reapply the spells on level 4 and 5, so you won't miss them after next rest.
This is pretty helpful even for Clerics, since you sometimes just need more Armors of Faith or another Remove Fear instead of an additional Aerial Servant or whatever in a drawn out fight.
I actually used this strategy to get like 10 additional AoFs during Amelyssan fight on a F/C solo run - which was in the end the only spells that mattered
YES! Been waiting for this my guy! My cleric just got level 6 spells! Thank you!
Thanks for watching and commenting friend!
Nice, was looking forward to this!
Thanks for watching and commenting friend!
Couple points on Blade Barrier:
1. It stacks with Globe of Blades, forcing enemies to roll two saving throws in a row.
2. It works in same fashion as regenerate and poison effects, Hasted characters tick them twice as often. Same thing applies to Globe of Blades too.
3. It goes through MR.
4. Planetars can cast this. Make sure to cast it before running them in melee and see the gibs fly.
5. It's a 6th level spell, so at least in theory it has a chance to hit Liches.
For practical purposes, I could see Aerie using it when she's mage tanking.
i've been replaying through vanilla IWD2 recently and have found your vids invaluable (especially at level up for the party sorcerer, and during the early parts of the game where the spell selections are more limited); there's some great little lessons on how to assess the utility of spells in general when reading through the spell descriptions which i've been able to try to apply myself
thank you for taking all the time to make these, has made my IWD2 playthrough go a bit smoother than it might've otherwise!
I'm surprised but glad it help you in IWD friend, thanks for watching and commenting!
"Being a fury in Baldurs Gate. That's gotta be evil."
Where did my sides go?
Thanks for watching and commenting friend!
Love the content Dav! Very minor point on cleric alignment but Anomen actually starts out as LN then turns either LG or CN.
Yeah this completely slipped my mind somehow lol
I can't get enough of the comedic contrast between you drooling on and on about how great an S-tier spell is, only in the next breath do a complete 180 and say the next spell utter dogsh@t lol.
Re-watches are King
Fireseeds work well for spreading greater deathblows effect as well. You can give the fireseeds to a warrior and have them use them with GB to spread the effect to wipe out lower level monsters.
Ah that must have been what I was thinking of I knew there was some use for it. Brutal though. Thanks for watching and commenting friend!
@@Davaeornlol you can give it to an assassin with poison weapon to make it AOE
well, again big thanks for the new video.
and I kinda feel redeemed that I wasn't only one who stock heal/harm only for level 6 spell for base game :)
Yeah there really wasnt too much there without mods and even with its a healers job to heal aint it XD. Thanks for watching and commenting friend!
I reckon one of the reasons Fire Seeds is so interesting a spell is because the fire seeds themselves and its AoE are compatible with various abilities, including Poison Weapon, Assassinate, Cleave, Deathblow, Greater Deathblow et al, along with lots of innate abilities such as a WS’s Miscast Magic and a Vampires level drain.
This means that they can be situationally useful or at least interesting when played in combo with multiple classes either in the party or with a Dual or Multi Classed char.
Again, lending to how interesting a spell it can be, it’s also quite easy to gain above 100 Fire Resistance on your frontline through various passive and active buffs, not only negating the non party friendly damage but also allowing for opportunities to heal the frontline.
I reckon that Probably the reason that the number of people who say they rate Fire Seeds compared to how useful it is in most situations is that its one of a few spells in the game that veterans can play around with and get some effective or even just surprising results even after hundreds of hours play.
Edit: typo
Yea really spreading the AOE with fighter abilities is about what its good for with the testing I did, but it feels like cheating to give them to pure fighters and I'd still rather use EET for my fighter druid XD. Still fun to play with i suppose, thanks for watching and commenting friend!
Putting them in ammo bags after casting some makes them permanent, after their duration runs out. I frankly love them, area effect bypasses many protections. I’m particularly a fan of using them with called shot. Multiple shots reduce magic resistance, allowing a fully buffed up dragon to take Abi-Dahzims, and get trashed.
I wonder what he would say if he saw himself today, other than "much love dude hope you're having a wonderful blessed day." That much is a given that we all love.
Gold, appreciate all the input you provide in your videos. Thanks! Even years later they're helping me on my revisit.
The long awaited, much anticipated and down right coveted, Divine spell Guide, Level 6. Woot!
YUGE
animal summoning doesn't summon animals /with/ 12 hd, they summon 2-3 that add up to it.. OR LESS. THAT is why it's so bad.
Interesting, I wondered why they were so weak, strange that not all summons are like that. Thanks for watching and commenting friend!
Has to be a bug right? Because it's really dumb
@@Batchibouzouk Nope, that's how the spell works in PnP but here's the thing, action economy matters in PnP and you have a /lot/ more options of summons.
Animal Summoning III Description: Summons 2 or 3 animals with 12 hit dice or less.
Narrator: *regrettably, it was less*
Wasn't Ms. Blue Booty perma'd by a blade barrier in one of your TOB runs? George Michael I think, in Gromnir's dungeon. Great video sir, really enjoying this review series! Still hoping to see Buffalo Bill with his mancoat in a future run! ;) Conan is the one!
Conan is gonna do it buddy I can feel it. I don't think she was but who knows maybe you're right. Either way it's super rare.
I thought she face checked a planetar?
Conjure Fire Elemental was my saving grace for getting through Irenicus' dungeon with No Reloads and I think it's SCS denying you rests. Since going through SoD got enough exp to have Jahiera able to cast it. The duration and Immunity to Normal Weapons made the Duergar laughable.
There actually is a really cool trick you can use with Heal. If you cast it on Raevilin Strathi (One of the Imprisonment Sphere victims in the Underdark), he'll give you the sword Albruin.
Anomen failing his trial turns him Chaotic Neutral I believe.
You're absolutely right about anomen I somehow forgot. Thanks for comenting and watching friend!
I don't know what's wrong with Blade Barrier in your game, but I use it all the time(especially when soloing). I've had swarms of vampires converge on me and at least a few of them explode. Assassins try to backstab me and get ripped to shreds. basically any mid level enemy without MR can get wrecked by this. You can combine it with sanctuary, walk into a room and kill a bunch of enemies without them knowing what's going on. Very high level enemies do save against it quit often though.
It's so weird I used it even on low levels and it's just insane how it never ever works. Maybe I'm bugged, but it did the same shit for me as a kid
@@Davaeornlol I also manage to do tons of damage with blade barrier especially with a cleric tanking many melee enemies
@@Davaeornlol Try it with Haste. It should double the damage like how it does with poison or regeneration. Well it has been a long time since I did that combo. It used to do that in the original game years ago. It could also be used while you were invisible or in sanctuary. So you could run next to an enemy and it would slowly shred them while they would not be able to do anything. I think the mod spell revisions makes it more powerful so it strikes multiple times per round with a -6 vs breath penalty. What mod changes Conjure Animals to be able to summon werebears? That summon was absolute dogshit in normal game. It was about as good as Animal Summoning III.
Fireseeds is actually quite useful in ToB. The damage transfers directly, which means it bypasses protections. In addition, it can apply on-hit effects. So, either pass it to a fighter or be a f/d, then apply smite or in some cases greater deathblow and throw it at the mobs besides your well protected target. If there are non, you can even use your own summons
That is true for the base game which I should have mentioned, but with the changes to SCS (which are now quite old but predating this video) every mage in the game with the exception of irenicus in suldanessalar for some weird reason will have protection from fire, making them immune to not just the damage but pushback as well, nullifying the fireseeds completely.
blade barrier is usually ok with normal creatures where u collect them with Yan using staff of mage hit them with malice and just stand with some one invisible who will cast it. some how it does not break the invisibility so if you have alot in spell book it may be better before you run out of spell and switch to wands to finish off. its better to perform outdoors than indoors because lightning indoors is a god. so if you dont want to be touched and yet have the chance to do damage its a way to go. and the 7lvl spell version is much better just because of -2 penalty. also dont forget time stop does not prevent this spell from working even from devas. i remember one run where a solo cleric\mage took out 2 top left last seal guardians with 1 deva under time stop with no malice.
It's weird I've used it in irenicus dungeon and I couldn't even hit goblins with it.
@@Davaeornlol maybe the save throws were modded up on insane im not sure. join the creatures and check it out. save vs spell tend to work better on fighters and clerics. works ok on normal, lets say 60% chance to hit for some named buddies bg2, goes up to 80% with malice thats 4 points for 5% each
@@Davaeornlol ive checked on normal difficulty saves vs spell of a goblin is 19 as a lvl 1 creature 7hp. on a legacy save is 20 (-4) lvl 13 and 101hp. no mods no scs
@@александрдозоров-г3б Yeah it's definitely different with my mods then, like i said ive seen it once or twice out of many many runs.
@@Davaeornlol i thought that save throws of 20 are considered of critical failer and are reserved for non existent 5% mr so there is always a chance to land something with a chance of 5%. that makes max possible mr=95. am i wrong?
Great video series! I didn't know conjure animals is that good. Jaheira can clear half Athkatla with this spell, crazy.
spell trigger 3xbolt of glory, spell trigger holy power, DupHM or RM, harm for c/m main or aerie :P;
That too! Thanks for watching and commenting friend!
These are awesome! But what happened to the Level 5 guide?
Blade Barrier in an unmodded game can be considered S tier. If an enemy cannot inherently see invisible creatures then you can combine the Non-Detection cloak and a potion of invisibility after casting this and stand next to something to kill it. It's _really_ good in unmodded games. Spell Revisions nerfs it to auto-remove the caster's invisibiility but I'm not sure why it doesn't work for Dav. it's _supposed_ to proc on anything around you, not specifically something that attacks you like a Fireshield spell. Must be an SCS nerf.
I've heard from other people using SCS that it works fine for them, I'm not sure what the deal is for me XD
English ain’t my first language, but to me it sounds as if you say Dolores Decay. Do-LO-res. I always thought it was pronounced DOLL-uh-r’s. But what do I know. Anyway, you’re always telling us to tell you when we think you’re wrong, and this is the best I could come up with.
Thanks for a ton of useful videos.
In case you missed it, guys, from my comments on the High Level Abilities video, Greater Acuity works on abilities. You can with a fighter thief mage activate Greater Whirlwind, Assassinate and Critical Strike for one round.
Here's another fun thing to do with Fireseeds. Give Fireseeds to a warrior and use Smite. Area effect Smite can blow all your enemies away. Your ranged fighters will have a field day. Can't be saved, if I recall correctly.
Loved the video, love hearing about the spells I've never used. (I've only played the vanilla game)
The problem is you have to time it at the end of your alacrity, if you do it at the beginning it's not worth doing tbh over casting spells. FMT cant do it at all until 9mil xp, and that's only if you add a mod to break xp limit but if you did that would indeed be a ton of damage. The fireseeds and smite though is a classic combo for sure, It feels weird giving them to fighters though XD. Thanks for watching and commenting friend!
Truth be told, Shamans and all their 'bonus vs spectral undead spells' are insanely good in IWD! There are only two infinite ammo ranged weapons [Namely an axe and a dagger, other magical ammo is virtually non-existent] ; Shamans can use both. Spectral undead are super common, and serious trouble in IWD. On HoF Mode, your summons come with the same buffs as the AI, resting is severely limited so the Dancing thing is actually super useful, expendable summons [with poison immunity] for no spell slots is awesome. IWD doesn't have HLA's, so you don;t miss out on the best druid stuff, either. 10/10 Can't say enough good things about it for IWD.
woohoo! great job man
Thanks for watching and commenting friend!
Bless you Dav!! A new epic chapter.
The bards will carry your tales all across the earth!
7:18 IWD Bears
Yeah shits crazy man, thanks for watching and commenting buddy!
Another great guide, still learning and this helps a lot!
Thanks for watching and commenting friend!
Fire Seeds can be transferred to someone else in the party. The main use that I know of is handing them to an Assassin or Blackguard and having them chuck the Fire Seeds with Poison Weapon active, which poisons entire groups the way Arrows of Detonation does. That's not absolutely amazing (especially after EE Poison Weapon nerf), but it's ... something.
EDIT: Oh yeah, also a Wizard Slayer/Druid dual can use Fire Seeds to inflict the Miscast on a group. Again, not great considering how bad the WS is on the whole, but something at least.
Ah fun idea, thanks for watching and commenting friend!
Fireseeds? I'll just get a Mage to cast Fireball.
Heal is fantastic especially when I play a Cleric/Mage and put Heal into a Contingency for emergencies, the down side is it takes a long to to get LVL 18.
Wondrous Recall I've often used when I don't want to rest in a dungeon and I recall hoping to get back Mass Cures and it usually works.
Ariel Servants are very dangerous...found out that the hard way 😢.
Sol's Searing Orb? I'll get a Mage to cast Melfs Minute Meteors.
Yeah some spells are a shame :( thanks for watching and commenting friend!
You shaved your head! I like it man, looks good. My head looks like a entire family of birds could take roost in there man #lockdowndoo
I feel ya man mine was looking pretty bad
Love your spell videos man, helped me look at spells I thought were garbage for consecutive playthroughs and really made the game fun again trying out new spell combos I never used before!
Any thoughts on a tier list video featuring all the classes and kits and how they perform throughout the saga?
Yeah we're gonna do that and a companion guide after we finish divine series. Thanks for watching and commenting friend!
@@Davaeornlol Awesome. Looking forward to it.
I really enjoy using Blade Barrier. The enemy doesn't need to be attacking you. I equip Anomen with Boots of Haste and then have him run around the battle field skewering enemies. It's so fun
For the love of god, can we get IWD2 Heal in BG2? It seems all cleric spells have casting time of 9.
Yeah it's pretty painful. Thanks for watching and commenting friend!
@@Davaeornlol Thank you for your insight! I played these games for forever and only with your runthrough of the mage spells noticed the gem that is melf's minute meteors. How could I missed this gem!?
@@Tumasch imp haste on top of it. Double the dakka. Have several mages do it. Dakka down half the game.
Davaeorn monk comfirmed
Careful with such insults, or he might hit you....4 times per round.
Balthazars portrait makes him look like a badass too, such a shame...
Doing a Legacy of Bhaal (vanilla) playthrough right now with a Totemic Druid and story companions, just finished Cloakwood. I have to say in Legacy of Bhaal summons are buffed significantly. Don't know how much it will affect the animal summoning spells though.
They'll have more hp but still be shit.
@@Davaeornlol Well I´m using Spirit Wolves/Lions mostly anyways so I guess I will stick with them until I get Fire Elementals (again, vanilla) in SoA...
Jaheira appears to have a spell called Physical Mirror, which seems to be missing from this guide.
Hey quick question… I’m playing bgee2 on Switch. Not sure if it includes Icewind Dale content for conjure animals spell. I don’t think it summons ware-bears; just normal brown bears. Does this change in later levels for Druid, or are the brown bears considered ware bears? Ps. Love ur videos man! Ur the BG GOAT Dav! Woot woot!
Do you think we could get a companion tier list? Maybe with their stats/special ability/quest rewards/best gear in mind!
I know you play more evil but it’d be nice to hear your thought on all of them. Anyway keep it up! I love this content!
Bro you did it and i gotta say, YOU’RE A STRAIGHT G. Thank you for listening to those who listen to you
I never knew entropy shield protected from imprisonment all those times i could have used it against demi liches man.
I know they changed it more than once during SCS so check your version too friend, thanks for watching and commenting!
What is beter fighter sedound class mage, druid or cleric? And on witch lvl u take secound class? At 9?
fighter mage is bis, then fighter dual to cleric, fighter dual druid, fighter dual thief is last. Always 9 yeah.
Heal all the way!
I'm gonna HEEEEALLL
Davaeorn I can hear Oprah now “You get a Heal, You get a Heal, Everybody gets a Heal!”
Hey man, brand new BG player and subscriber here, these guides have been super helpful, thanks. I was wondering what you think of BG3 based on what we know so far? I decided to play through the old BG games in preparation for 3, but it honestly looks so different from the classic games, I’m not sure how I feel about it. Was just curious what a veteran like yourself thought, thanks
Its divinity original sin 3 and won't be like bg1 or 2 in any way shape or form. I still think it will be fun to play, new rpgs aren't nearly as popular as shooters or mobas etc but I think every new rpg has a chance to really give you that powerful feel, the feel that you're in control an the only limitation is your imagination, we're nowhere near that, and lets be honest BG was nowhere near that, but it was still fun as hell, and I hope bg3 will be fun as hell in its own way, but it's going to be so different from the original games that the point of comparing them will be completely moot. Beamdog made an attempt and failed miserably (although their heart was in the right place for certain things, but for the most part the story, writing, characters, and dialogue were very poorly done)
Davaeorn yeah, damn, that’s pretty much what I thought. Ah well. Any suggestions for other RPGs similar to BG? There’s just something so captivating about the BG experience. I just feel like no modern RPGs can compare. Of course, like you said, there are still limitations to BG, but it’s the first RPG I’ve played in a long time that really pulled me in and had my full attention and enthusiasm until I finished it.
How does Conjure Animal work in the base game for BGEE? Or did I misinterpret that the one discussed here was the IWD variant?
it summons usually 2 GARBAGE animals like leopards or mountain lions. I SWEAR I saw horses before but it's been so long I can't say for sure. Either way, non magical weapons, shit ac thaco and hp. Terrible summons all around.
@@Davaeornlol Fire Elemental for me then.
About Fire Seeds, if I recall, Mivsan used it in his playthrough by giving them to a fighter and using the Deathblow? (death fighter HLA) so the explosion could kill multiple target
Yeah in my game deathblow doesn't do shit because there are no enemies at that level (mind flayers are buffed specifically to avoid this etc)
"Been a furry in bg has to be evil" Good one!
I still get dispelled with remove magic with entropy shield up? Pit fiend dispels me, Irenicus dispels me with sequencer, I don't get it?
Versions of SCS changes some of the Icewind Dale spells. Unchanged (or using IWDalification without SCS), Entropy Shield just improves saves by 2 and gives resistances to elemental damage and that's it. And its duration is too short to justify a level 6 slot and it can be brought down by Breach or dispelled, so probably C tier. Impervious Sanctity of Mind, the level 7 spell, is basically Chaotic Commands, but self only and needs a level 7 slot. Completely redundant, RP tier. Chaotic Commands wasn't in Icewind Dale, It was replaced by this. The enhanced edition of Icewind Dale adds BG spells, but doesn't correct how redundant it makes ISoM. And neither does IWDalification for BG.
In the version of SCS that Dav plays, Entropy Shield and ISoM were improved to function like Spell Immunity: Abjuration and Spell Shield, which allows you to protect your buffs. The level 5 spell, Shield of Lathander, was changed to Divine Protection and improved from a casting time of 8 to 1, and made to last 3 rounds instead of 2, which makes you immune to physical damage, like the spell Protection from Magical Weapons from mages. Unchanged, it takes almost 5 seconds to cast it and only lasts 12 seconds, which makes it harder to time when to cast it, since you really want it as an oh shit button.
These are great guides, but there are some differences that radically changes the ranking of certain spells. Even the companion guide, Anomen isn't quite as good without these changes. Still best Cleric in the game, but not S+ tier.
At least without those new spells, feels like only level 5 is stacked for Clerics.
Yeah there are a lot of lackluster spells, keep in mind tho divine magic was always supposed to be inferior to arcane.
32 HP, 15 dex and base AC 6 on the leopards, what a bunch of hot garbo. Those things would quickly become obsolete in BG1, let alone as a sixth level spell.
It's 3 am in my country & just when I thought I could catch some sleep...
7 coming soon! Thanks for watching and commenting friend!
Entropy Shield gives protection to remove magic, what about dispell magic?
Or do all enemy spell casters use remove magic?
The mod(s) that changes conjure animals to summon greater werebears really changes things... Those bears suddenly carry the first half of SoA if you want to.
Yeah, we're actually removing it because it's too strong tbh. We make an effort not to abuse it but still. Thanks for watching and commenting friend!
Not sure what mods you are using, but in bg2ee a lot of these spells aren’t in my available spell lists…
Great video bro! You gonna be doing videos on Baldurs gate 3 when it's out?
Definitely, dunno if its gonna suck ass or not but should be fun regardless I hope. Hopefully larian realizes what a HUGE DEAL I am and invite me to play early. I wont hold my breath though.
@@Davaeornlol from what I've seen so far it looks very different to bg2 but still very good, that might just be cos I was a fan of dos2 though. As far as I'm concerned ur a baldur's gate expert(gameplay wise at least) so they'd be silly not too, unfortunately I'm not with larion but will for sure be keeping my fingers crossed for ya. Keep up the awesome videos mate and looking forward to the level 7 guide 😄
Interesting you rank Aerial Servant so highly, I used to think they were amazing (before I started playing SCS), now I rely on Fire Elementals more because they have the fire resistance and seem much tankier for that reason only. And their bonus fire damage against mages that use Stoneskin. I don't really use summons for damage, mainly as lightning rods for enemy spells, even if it forces a spell caster to waste a Death Spell during a Time Stop, that's time that they aren't casting some Incendiary Cloud at me. And because they're invisible you can't even target them with any spell buffs like protection from fire.
Late and I don't know if it's relevant but fey are basically magic creatures in forest. So, pixies, fairies, petals, I'm pretty sure nereids, sirens, and nymphs are supposed to be fey but I'm not sure if the game codes them as such and not just blue elves.
Yeah the coding is the real issue sadly.
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Anomen start as lawful neutral and can become either lawful good or chaotic neutral in his quest , so he can be a neutral cleric if you need him to be so.
It's ironic because I always make him fail his quest if i can and i totally forgot about this, thanks for watching and commenting friend!
What a nose
The conjure animals spell can glitch rarely summoning one of the bears as a 18/18/18 fighter mage cleric with all the spells in the game only happens in like 3. Out of the hundred times I've casted it after it first happened to me. So keep an eye on your summoned bears they might break your game
wtf lol
any idea what the stats on the greater bearweres are?
Thank you for the video
You bet!
Old school bladed barrier (curse of the azure blades D&D computer game) spell did massive damage. But ya I couldn’t make it proc or seen it proc on attack either.
It's weird as hell, ive seen it hit once out of heaven knows how many hours of playing this game.
If Anomen screws up his test, doesn't he go neutral?
Yeah I totally forgot that somehow lol.
I'm a bit late to the party, but what's the deal with conjure animals? I'm not getting werebears, only mountain ones like the spell description says. I have SCS, but no werebears!
I think it's a tweak component, sorry about that buddy!
@@Davaeornlol Ahhh ok. Thanks! I’ll keep that in mind for next run
@@Davaeornlol Know this is 3 months late, but I'm also able to put this on viconia, even though you said it was druid/shaman only?
fey creatures are dryads and yes they are in bg 1 and 2
Nice, thanks for watching and commenting friend!
Spiritual Wrath timestamp is wrong, its beyond the end of the video, sure others have pointed that out already
A question is it possible to do an effective elemental build on dnd settings so only fire ice storm poison spells?
Definitely but you're going to have a hard time against mages who use protection from elements spells unless you allow yourself to use those too.
Greater Werebears sounds like just the summons to boost with blood rage.😳. Let them get close to the enemy line, and cast blood rage. If they attack you, use Death Fog to dismiss.
D, are you planning to cover the IWD added arcane spells? Some look pretty tasty…
Yes I'll be re doing the arcane series here in a bit.
@@Davaeornlol I’m betting one of the things that would help in terms of interest in these videos would be the interplay between spell protections and spell protection removal spells…for example…
Improved Invisibility and spell immunity divination: This means you’re too late with khelben’s warding whip/spell thrust. Your target’s spell protections cannot be dispelled, and if they have protection from magic weapons up, you cannot breach them. Start paying attention to the messages, turtle up your party. When PfMW runs out, send in your fighters to attack, and hope to interrupt their spell casting. When spell immunity divination runs out, use true sight, and attack with spell thrust, to drop spell shield, and follow up with Khelbens to keep them from stacking spell protections. 🤓
Or have Jan Jansen. Detect traps thief ability at 100% ignores spell immunity divination. You just have to ignore turnip jokes…🤓 (Jan has those glasses of his which has a significant boost..)
Conjure Animals….somebody posted their stats on the wiki. ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Now, it turns out these Greater Werebears are from the werewolf rebalance mod from SCS. Otherwise, you get brown bears. Also, they have three attacks per…improved haste, and blood rage when they hit the enemy lines…have death fog ready after they’re done eating Firkraag. 🤣
160 hp, Thaco -3, 3 attacks per round, regen 5 hp per second, 50% resistance to cold/fire/magic/acid/ etc... level 20, strenght 22...
Can u make tutorial how to make perfect fighter, mage etc when tak secound class what weapon ale the best. I always play kensay with 2h sword or warrior/mage with sejmitars, but want to try something else
I plan to yes!
24:15 you know ho harm can be fun?:D Cleric rouge time stop tram where you STILL have to role to hit for some reason but the ads to hit is high :D or you can just use "all item use" Holly avenger-ing or Heaven Fury katana , your time frozen Lich or any opponent :D. BUT Heal is still so damn good....i kinda stuck with it. As for summon i like fire elemental because thy look badass (and do the job) I know its not meta i just like to lead an army of fire elemental's ans skeleton titans lead by my Shadow Tempes ork-rouge-cleric as it detecs and disable traps while leading a monster army :D summoned by my left behind wizard and cleric or druid aloes :D because ...that just how my team ended (with my monk next to her just in case wee need a stunning trike :D) doom is so much more fun with a monk ally :D
Fun fact its looks even more epic that grater fire elemental lead the charge with normal smaller fire elemental :D as they fire-fist down anything that gets in the way :D "exploding punches are the bestXD"
Conjure animals maybe needs a little nerf? 30hp/round?
@ 37:48 Blade Barrier is IMHO a "A" tier spell. Anomen used it against the Vampires and Mummys in Firkraags lair. Blade Barrier dished out 529 points of damage and Anomen single handedly killed them all.
I've played five thousand hours of baldurs gate online and more offline and I've seen it proc a combined total of 3 times for me and against me. Idk what the deal is but yeah.
@@Davaeornlol Anomen stood still and was completely surrounded by 11 enemies. All were attacking Anomen. I use BG2EE v2.3 like you. I could imagine it would be good against drow bypassing their magic resistance and high AC.
@@Max_Mustermann_ Yeah on paper its solid for sure I just seem to have awful luck with it or its bugged to shit from a mod im using.
@@Davaeornlol I don't use mods (exept my own). It sounds like your Blade Barrier is bugged.
@@Davaeornlol It has to be bugged or something because I use Blade Barrier and Globe of Blades all the time, and it wrecks face every time. Procs every round, no problem.
DEVA or aeial?
Aerial. Because its L6.
DeVas are 7.
You get devas as hla for paladins.
Mages rather call down a planetar.
Mage clerics get to spell trigger a tripple summon of aerials.
Chain contigency it with 2 mordenkainens and a haste...
Chop chop....
I know in AD&D 2e that Elf and gnomes are fey creatures, and still are in the next editions but I don't know if that is true for BG at all, that's the only fey I can think of that is in the game, so maybe spirit lock works on them or not
Someone posted that dryads count but those are so damn few and far between and even then XD
Conjure animals in vanilla EE is a lot worse. The bears have no regen, 70 hp and 1d12+6 damage 3 apr. They are ok as a bit of dps only because of 3 apr but aerial servant is better probably. Also servant lasts much longer.
The wiki says Bolt of Glory doesn't affect demiliches
Anomen can be neutral if you fail his quest if I recall correctly. I mean if you let him revenge his family.
Correct I totally forgot at the time, thanks for commenting and watching friend!
Damn, Icewind Clerics have way more buffs for their party and themselves than Baldur's Gate Clerics do!
Yeah it's actually insane.
I know his sounds boring but to me heal is just too good its the firs descent healing magic you get your hands on :D so its puts the bar high
I think bolt of glory works because it is not a spell, you are basically asking god to do it. I believe the same goes for smite
Yeah maybe so, thanks for watching and commenting friend!
Hay! Why am I a weirdo if I have Hexxat on my party? I played BG long time ago and now I'm back playing BG EE and was thinking about playing with her when I get to BG2EE.
Also, do you include Siege of Dragonspear in your runs? I don't think I've seen you playing that, do you have any comments on SoD? I'm playing it just to know about the story.
It's pretty poorly done, the exploration aspect isn't bad at all, but it's a modern take on a classic, and the writing/plot/characters/story are way under par from what one would expect from a bg game. They changed so much crap around the story made more sense before than after. I could talk at length about what needed to be fixed tbh, most of it are quick and easy, re writing the main story could take weeks but it's all doable but its whatever. I find hexxat weird because her dialogue is so awful. If you're good, you kill her, shes an evil vampire, if you're evil you kill her, because nobody talks down to you (edwin knows his place), and if you're neutral you could go either way but her dialogue is such cringe sophistry bullshit I ended up murdering her on the spot in my first playthrough because I couldn't stand her. I've taken her in the past when we need a thief or xp but it's pretty weird tbh.
@@Davaeornlol well, i guess maybe i missed up something when i was a kid, but i dont remember having an explanation for why we kill Sarevok and end up in a lab/cell in bg2, so im just giving it a try, at least im having some fun in those siege fights, but the story seems out of place, maybe only at the end i will really know the conection between bg 1 and 2.
Well, i wanted to try Hexxat when arriving at bg2, but i often dont take npcs' bullshit, so ill probably just end up killing her hahaha lets see how much of a bitch she is.
Anyways thanks for the info man, God bless. Looking forward for those guide videos, im not watching your runs because i dont want to be spoiled on how to win thought fights, but once i finish bg2 im likely to watch quite a few of those.
Awesome timing on this, I'm running with a Fighter/Cleric for the very first time, about to hit cloakwood mines, and you just made me realize that critical strike guarantees that harm hits. I've never managed to endure Anomen long enough to get his HLAs I guess, because I wasn't even aware that was a thing but it's so obvious now. So once I get that unlocked, I can be harming fools all day. Noice!
EDIT: Didn't Viconia get perma'd by a blade barrier in your George Michael run, below Gromnir's castle in Saradush?
I heard somebody else say that too im not sure now maybe, either way that makes 2 XD Thanks for watching and commenting friend! Also anomen doesnt get warrior hlas that's only for multis so careful with that.
@@Davaeornlol Oh, that thing about Anomen being dual-classed instead of a multi probably goes even further towards explaining why I had never noticed this interaction before, haha. First time rolling a fighter/cleric, I just kicked your namesake's butt and headed to the big city tomorrow for more adventures!
where is physical mirror?
Animal Summoning is useful in one place in BG 2. In the Underdark, the Kua Toa dungeon, you need an animal to sacrifice to activate the Demon Knights so you can get Soul Reaver and the Girdle of Frost Giant Strength. Other than this niche situation, the spell is as useful as tips on a boar.
That’s really funny I’m playing BG for the first time I have vicoonia summon the air servent and was like what is this little shit and I had it attack Nerra and got Nerra permanently killed with one shot
If we are weirdos and have Hexxat?? Sir what do you have against the beautiful vampire??
Her dialogue when you pick her up is just so awful and she's so damn buggy. Everytime I've ever played with her I have to reload because she bugs out in someway preventing us from playing the game XD
I loathe how hef portrait is replaced. She ugly now. Get back into the cute one.
For some reason I find it funny you didnt know what Fey Creatures are :D
For example Dryads are Fey
So are elves, but i doubt the game's engine consider them so.
In vanilla conjure animals is just as useless as animal summoning III. just take summon fire elemental as a druid for this level playing unmodded
Yeah theyre pretty terrible for sure.
Dude, where's your hear at? At least you still have your beard...
It was getting to be a mess. Balding af it had to go.
Dragonspear worst expansion only played it for leveling up my cleric,man having raise dead at the begging of BG2 is a must.