Cleric/Rangers are very similar to Fighter/Clerics, but gain a couple of additional goodies: Unlike Fighter/Clerics, they,get Favoured Enemy and access to lvl 1-3 Druid spells. Importantly, they cast these Druid spells with their Cleric Caster Level. This means that Call Lightning does very substantially more damage than when cast by a pure Ranger. Cleric/Rangers also get Stealth, which can be combined with Turn Undead, so you can sneak right into a horde of undead and stay there permanently with Turn Undead switched on. The downside is that, compared eith a Fighter/Cleric, you cannot be a Dwarf, and thus do not get shortie saves. Also, the Cleric/Ranger levels slightly slower, but eventually reaches the same maximum combat stats as the Fighter/Cleric. (Btw, in previous versions of the game, Cleric/Rangers actually got access to ALL Druid spells, including higher-level spells such as Insect Plague or Creeping Doom, This made Cleric/Rangers exceptionally powerful. Beamdog switched this off with Version 1.3 of the Enhanced Edition, but the code still contains an option for switching this back on if you want to.)
If I have a blind spot for any of the strongholds, its the Ranger Cabin. I've tried having the Ranger's Cabin several times and I've ended up failing someway through because I don't get any quests or indication that something needs to be done. That being said, I can absolutely respect the fluff of a Cleric/Ranger since I can seem them with a wide variety of divine spells to use.
Cleric/ranger can use spells exclusive for druids and rangers. In the pass was a bug and that granted that class access to all druid spells. But that was fix and now you are restricted like a ranger. But i see somewhere the information of a twek for turn the bug on. Sorry for my english.
All is good and well said. I was wondering about that regarding the casting of both sets but I suppose that makes sense in regards to the Druid spells only coming into effect when a Ranger would get those spells. I'm still not a fan of this particular combo but it does have that accessibility going for it.
I do get the analysis paralysis point regarding cleric/mages, however what I like about them is they serve as an excellent repository of spells which did not make the cut for the main cleric and main mage in the team. Like - having the main cleric heal and buff and cleric/mage debuff and damage , and have mage use invocation and summons and have cleric/mage use enchants and illusions as a decoy.
That's a good point, this can make them pretty tanky. I'm not a huge fan of the limited weapon selection nor the limits to their weapon specialization, but I appreciate having Iron Skins right there, along with the useful early game Divine spells.
@@Redjoy123 I think I made a clerk ranger (Stalker) doing also backstabbing and having acces to haste since you get till 3 levels of mage spells...it was a very strong character with righteous magic the damage was always predictable. Anyway I prefer playing FMT and in combo with a FMC . I now pay on LOB so it seems more challenging...
@@Redjoy123 ...however I like to get a big map to get all the isometric games accessible as 1 game...like the old big world mod but for BGEE I do not find this yet so it still need to be made or I did not search enough. If so let me know there is such a thing.Thanks for all the work and advice you give...:))
@@TheSilvergwarf Thank you so much! Off the top of my head, I'm not sure if there are any isometric games that have one large world BUT I would say that the Diablo games (particularly Diablo II) actually come pretty close if you squint a bit and get that they are large open maps with a few breaks in certain areas.
@@Redjoy123 I mean a big map of the whole world of fearun where you can visit every place as it is for baldur's gate. Apparently they made something that includes also even icewind dale. That game gotto work but not yet for enchanced edition
cleric ranger gives you charm animal and racial enemy. I suppose you could make an undead slayer of some type. Also chart animal can be strangely effective early game with all of the wandering wolves and bears. Still, it's one of the poopiest multi/dual classes. =(
Sad but true. I can see a Stalker combined with a Cleric as a Dual-Class with the skeleton slaying theme but that would be a pretty bad one trick pony.
Cleric spells in sequencer/contingency is absolutely broken. 25% hp? Contingency Heal. About to do a major battle? Sequencer cleric buffs. Enemies spotted? Contingency DUHM.
Cleric/Rangers are very similar to Fighter/Clerics, but gain a couple of additional goodies: Unlike Fighter/Clerics, they,get Favoured Enemy and access to lvl 1-3 Druid spells. Importantly, they cast these Druid spells with their Cleric Caster Level. This means that Call Lightning does very substantially more damage than when cast by a pure Ranger. Cleric/Rangers also get Stealth, which can be combined with Turn Undead, so you can sneak right into a horde of undead and stay there permanently with Turn Undead switched on. The downside is that, compared eith a Fighter/Cleric, you cannot be a Dwarf, and thus do not get shortie saves. Also, the Cleric/Ranger levels slightly slower, but eventually reaches the same maximum combat stats as the Fighter/Cleric. (Btw, in previous versions of the game, Cleric/Rangers actually got access to ALL Druid spells, including higher-level spells such as Insect Plague or Creeping Doom, This made Cleric/Rangers exceptionally powerful. Beamdog switched this off with Version 1.3 of the Enhanced Edition, but the code still contains an option for switching this back on if you want to.)
Insect plague was overpowered in the old version. Jaheira was absolutely the MVP of any party when facing casters.
I liked playing Cleric/Ranger for the fluff and the Cabin in Umar Hills, since I've never had that Stronghold questline before
If I have a blind spot for any of the strongholds, its the Ranger Cabin. I've tried having the Ranger's Cabin several times and I've ended up failing someway through because I don't get any quests or indication that something needs to be done.
That being said, I can absolutely respect the fluff of a Cleric/Ranger since I can seem them with a wide variety of divine spells to use.
Cleric/Ranger is the elf version of " we have Druid at home" since Druid is restricted to human and half-elf.
That's a good way to put it.
Cleric/ranger can use spells exclusive for druids and rangers. In the pass was a bug and that granted that class access to all druid spells. But that was fix and now you are restricted like a ranger. But i see somewhere the information of a twek for turn the bug on.
Sorry for my english.
All is good and well said. I was wondering about that regarding the casting of both sets but I suppose that makes sense in regards to the Druid spells only coming into effect when a Ranger would get those spells.
I'm still not a fan of this particular combo but it does have that accessibility going for it.
Also to add cleric weapons are not actually all that bad you still get staff, maces, and fails one of the most powerful weapon sets in game.
True, although I still feel that war hammers should be a bit more powerful that 1d4+1, jmho
@Redjoy123 Agree for sure warhammers are weak sauce overall.
I do get the analysis paralysis point regarding cleric/mages, however what I like about them is they serve as an excellent repository of spells which did not make the cut for the main cleric and main mage in the team. Like - having the main cleric heal and buff and cleric/mage debuff and damage , and have mage use invocation and summons and have cleric/mage use enchants and illusions as a decoy.
The clerk ranger also have Iron skins that is basicly the same as stone skin !
That's a good point, this can make them pretty tanky. I'm not a huge fan of the limited weapon selection nor the limits to their weapon specialization, but I appreciate having Iron Skins right there, along with the useful early game Divine spells.
@@Redjoy123 I think I made a clerk ranger (Stalker) doing also backstabbing and having acces to haste since you get till 3 levels of mage spells...it was a very strong character with righteous magic the damage was always predictable. Anyway I prefer playing FMT and in combo with a FMC . I now pay on LOB so it seems more challenging...
@@Redjoy123 ...however I like to get a big map to get all the isometric games accessible as 1 game...like the old big world mod but for BGEE I do not find this yet so it still need to be made or I did not search enough. If so let me know there is such a thing.Thanks for all the work and advice you give...:))
@@TheSilvergwarf Thank you so much!
Off the top of my head, I'm not sure if there are any isometric games that have one large world BUT I would say that the Diablo games (particularly Diablo II) actually come pretty close if you squint a bit and get that they are large open maps with a few breaks in certain areas.
@@Redjoy123 I mean a big map of the whole world of fearun where you can visit every place as it is for baldur's gate. Apparently they made something that includes also even icewind dale. That game gotto work but not yet for enchanced edition
cleric ranger gives you charm animal and racial enemy. I suppose you could make an undead slayer of some type. Also chart animal can be strangely effective early game with all of the wandering wolves and bears. Still, it's one of the poopiest multi/dual classes. =(
Sad but true. I can see a Stalker combined with a Cleric as a Dual-Class with the skeleton slaying theme but that would be a pretty bad one trick pony.
@@Redjoy123Maybe made slightly better by going vampire as favored enemy? In BG2, obviously.
Cleric/mage sequencers should be illegal.
Ooooooh! Juicy AND Spicy! What leads you to suggest that?
Cleric spells in sequencer/contingency is absolutely broken. 25% hp? Contingency Heal. About to do a major battle? Sequencer cleric buffs. Enemies spotted? Contingency DUHM.