2022 Toyota Tundra TRD Off-Road vs. TRD Pro - You Pay More BUT Do You Really Get More?

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  • Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
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    ( tfl-studios.com/ ) Which off-road version of the brand new 2022 Toyota Tundra is right for you? Andre compares both the TRD Off-Road Package (on a Limited Hybrid) and the TRD Pro side-by-side to find out!
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    TIMESTAMPS:
    0:00 Intro
    0:24 "Silent" 2WD Comparison
    2:01 TRD Off-Road: Articulation
    5:30 TRD Off-Road: Ground Clearance
    7:23 TRD Off-Road: Mud & Speed
    8:36 Acceleration Tests
    9:50 TRD Pro: Articulation
    11:50 TRD Pro Pricing
    12:41 TRD Pro: Articulation (continued)
    16:09 TRD Pro: Ground Clearance
    17:17 TRD Pro: Mud & Speed
    18:28 TRD Pro: A note on its payload...
    19:06 Wrap-up: Which would I pick?
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Комментарии • 401

  • @dalephillips8250
    @dalephillips8250 2 года назад +50

    These new trucks...ALL of Them are being priced out of the market of most people. None of them are worth what they are asking anymore.

    • @joshp6024
      @joshp6024 Год назад +6

      Yeah they are slowly getting rid of the middle class

  • @marcoamorales2297
    @marcoamorales2297 2 года назад +76

    I feel that Toyota needs to set the TRD Pro apart more by adding a different bumper with more clearance and tow hooks and maybe larger more aggressive tires

    • @lordofreason549
      @lordofreason549 Год назад +9

      They need to have tow hooks on all trucks.

    • @Pippinm7
      @Pippinm7 Год назад +1

      Totally agree!

  • @markos9751
    @markos9751 2 года назад +98

    I think Toyota dropped the ball with that low hanging front bumper, and no front recovery hooks.

    • @Mycameron2323
      @Mycameron2323 2 года назад +8

      They know that anyone who actually off-roads doesn't run stock anything. There's literally already 3-4 bumper's

    • @davec.3198
      @davec.3198 2 года назад +15

      @@Mycameron2323 Sometimes you off road accidentally and need the tow hooks. :-)

    • @Stuka87
      @Stuka87 2 года назад +35

      @@Mycameron2323 No excuse for no front tow hooks on a "TRD PRO".

    • @markos9751
      @markos9751 2 года назад +6

      @@Mycameron2323 true, however it would’ve been nice if they did something with the front end of the TRD Pro, similar to that of the new ZR2 Silverado.

    • @Eddy-09
      @Eddy-09 2 года назад +8

      And the price

  • @mini2nut67
    @mini2nut67 2 года назад +20

    19/20/21 for the hybrid Tundra Pro is LESS than I expected. The $68,500 price tag is MORE than I expected.

  • @bellasky83
    @bellasky83 2 года назад +13

    Andre, I just love your reporting/reviewing. You are so down to earth and realistic about your tests, as well as being entertaining. Thank you!

  • @treborheminway3814
    @treborheminway3814 2 года назад +20

    20" rims on those off road package trucks is like Bugs Bunny eating a cucumber when asking Elmer what's up Doc. ...

  • @marcraymond7741
    @marcraymond7741 2 года назад +70

    It is interesting that the Canadian TRD Off road package includes 18’’ wheels rather than the 20’’ US versions has. I much prefer the 18’’ option for off roading.

    • @lunamaria1048
      @lunamaria1048 2 года назад

      Yup lol

    • @cuspin12
      @cuspin12 2 года назад +11

      SR5 TRD offroad is 18" wheels, Limited is 20"

    • @Ben_Pede
      @Ben_Pede 2 года назад

      And they are not even TRD wheels, just a black and machined face with a chrome Toyota emblem. Haven't seen a TRD Sport yet here, only SR5 and Limited so far

    • @dougreed736
      @dougreed736 2 года назад

      @@Ben_Pede do you get the 360' off road view from cameras on the Canadian off road version?

    • @Ben_Pede
      @Ben_Pede 2 года назад +1

      @@dougreed736 yes in the TRD Off Road package you get the Multi Terrain View monitor.

  • @michaelpeterson5396
    @michaelpeterson5396 2 года назад +9

    Reasons to not spend the bigger bucks on a TRD Pro and get a TRD Off Road instead...the Off Road can do 90% (I'd wadger up to 95%) of what the Pro is capable of for much less. Plus, you know the dealer mark-ups on the Pro will likely be nuts. So, if you're not going to be doing the faster desert running, just like the Pro was designed for, get the Off Road 👍🏻

  • @caviman2202
    @caviman2202 2 года назад +51

    I'd love to see a 2022 vs 2021 TRD OR test... wonder just how much difference the new platform makes.

  • @rayrussell6064
    @rayrussell6064 2 года назад +30

    Personally if they are going to call it a off road truck they need to put better tires on it and tow hooks. Keep up the good content and God bless you guys and as always be safe 👍

  • @coreybatorski9626
    @coreybatorski9626 2 года назад +35

    Andre working hard cranking out the content! Love the reviews great job 👏

    • @dancross3340
      @dancross3340 2 года назад

      lol working hard !!
      driving around the woods
      in a borrowed truck.
      talking about 2wd vs 4wd
      he must have to go
      home and sleep
      for days to recover

  • @alexaguilar6446
    @alexaguilar6446 2 года назад

    Just got my 2022 Tundra sr5 trd off road with the premium package and I love it

  • @useryggfdcc
    @useryggfdcc 2 года назад +46

    My pick will be the TRD offroad model. Get the Toyota lifted kit , install the aluminum skid plate and BFG KO2 tires.

    • @jbw5485
      @jbw5485 2 года назад +6

      Good choice. I’m leaning that way also. I’m on my second tundra now. I had the K02’s. They performed amazing in snow and dirt. But when I was towing my boat or side by side, if the roads were wet, they would break traction easily from a start. I almost couldn’t be in tow mode because the tundra wants to go. And I tried my hardest to really really ease on the throttle. But they still spun. I’ve got trail grapplers now and I don’t have that issue.

    • @ramrider1453
      @ramrider1453 2 года назад +5

      Don’t forget the tow hooks 😃😃

    • @jbw5485
      @jbw5485 2 года назад +9

      @@ramrider1453 what’s everybody’s hang up on tow hooks? Looks? Seriously. When do you need tow hooks on the front? How often?

    • @ramrider1453
      @ramrider1453 2 года назад +10

      @@jbw5485 Where I live it is a must. Right now I have over four feet of snow here in 🇨🇦. I do use mine a few times a year to help pull out people that are stuck. Also when I go to my lake where roads are not plowed regularly.It helps. So ya it is very important to me and others with my kind of climate. Plus in summer in certain off road areas it’s a must. That’s why so many people are frustrated with Toyota not having them. Wether it’s for looks or practicality.

    • @xspower21
      @xspower21 2 года назад +10

      Don't forget to buy a real truck while you're at it, cause you would have to be gullible or completely ignorant to buy this sub par outdated truck that has zero innovation and literally went backwards in many areas, like now being worst in class in almost every category. Worst in class turning radius now, worst in class interior dimensions, worst in class in head room, visibility is worse due to the rake. So between the poor visibility and much larger turning radius this thing is noticeably harder to maneuver in every environment. Add in the seats are too short so they are uncomfortable, the entry handles are to small and prettyuch unusable. The interior lighting is still super dim, the tail gate is harder for egress/ingress then every other truck on the market include the previous gen Tundra, the iforce motor was already out paced by Fords, granted the difference was nominal, but think about that, it's a brand new truck that they had 15ys to make, but it can't compete with last yrs model, and overall this truck barely competes against 2020 models from the big three. Why did they put the crawl control right next to the cup holders where we all spill drinks and food, they had a ton a dash real-estate, so literally zero common sense there. The Sienna mini van has a 1500w inverter, but the premiere work truck from Toyota has only 400w that will barely power basic tools. That's just asinine! How about the poor payload capacity, nothing greT here, in fact the Ford Ranger has a ayload of 1904 and Tundras best is 1940, but most Tundra models are around 1600lb, that damn near the same as my 11 yr old Tundra, that just embarrassing. Why did they take all the storage space in the most capable off road version the TRD PRO, space is a premium when off road/camping and weight also an issue, but apparently these idiots didn't even bother to try and be innovative by putting the batteries under the bed like Rivian or be innovatiove and find a different place like between the cab and bed, or under the bed, but nope. Hell they didn't even bother to try and design extra storage like the ram power boxes. They could have at least give us the TRD PRO with the base model engine so it would be lighter and have plenty of storage space, but I guess that was way to complicated for the engineers to figure, but mostly likey they just didn't give a shit....I could keep going on as this piece of shit truck has an absurd amount of miss fires. Toyota should be embarrassed and only a gullible tool would buy one of these....and this is coming from a die hard fan who owns a Tundra and wanted to buy a TRD PRO in 2019, but wait 3yrs for this, only to be let completely let down

  • @stevieray1828
    @stevieray1828 2 года назад

    Love these Tay-oh-taz!! Great work Andre!

  • @ALMX5DP
    @ALMX5DP 2 года назад +6

    6:36 I wonder who will be the first to put 2 cameras up front to try and provide/simulate depth perception. With the 3D displays being brought out, I think only time until we see that type of feature.

  • @OSkyFireO
    @OSkyFireO 2 года назад +6

    it's actually a really easy choice to make since the odds of actually acquiring a TRD Pro will be *VERY* difficult.

  • @alexadamson1322
    @alexadamson1322 2 года назад +1

    I can't wait for this the review with this new TRD Pro, Chevy Silverado ZR2, GMC Sierra AT4X, and Ford F150 Tremor.

  • @highplainsdrifter9849
    @highplainsdrifter9849 2 года назад +25

    Still think Toyota needs to put the front end of the Sequoia on the Tundra. Looks way better.

    • @primalj_2a433
      @primalj_2a433 2 года назад +7

      The sequoia is looking great. I will agree the tundra should have sequoia front end

    • @robertoramos8257
      @robertoramos8257 2 года назад +2

      Idk why I can't seem to tell the big difference everyone is talking about looks basically the same to me

    • @allenbrandon1031
      @allenbrandon1031 2 года назад +1

      It looks close to the old tundra… defeats the point

    • @ethanspruill7539
      @ethanspruill7539 2 года назад +1

      kinda looks like a big tacoma

    • @ravensfootball52
      @ravensfootball52 2 года назад

      @@robertoramos8257 it’s basically the same thing but they color match the trim and bottom bumper. The grill isn’t as big as everyone thinks but it looks bigger because they black out the bumper where it meets the grill

  • @nickknee3515
    @nickknee3515 2 года назад

    0:25 Okay Elmer Fudd. LOL Keep up the great work Andre, you deserve a vacation nice long soon.

  • @LifeBeginsOnTheWater
    @LifeBeginsOnTheWater 2 года назад +3

    Great content, thanks for sharing. Both are beautiful & worthy trucks from the looks of at it.
    Billy D

  • @ryandoyle4344
    @ryandoyle4344 2 года назад +9

    TRD Pro 6260 = 7615 - 1355
    Raptor 5750, F150 hybrid 5400-5580, F150 Lightning 6171. Is weight not the enemy of efficiency??

  • @ChopperChad
    @ChopperChad 2 года назад +31

    These new Tundras are really growing on me, but, they really need recovery hooks, auto 4wd, and a more appropriate tire/wheel package for the TRD Off Road version. Maybe another 1 or 2 inches of lift as well. I mean, it’s the Off Road model, right? Ford, Chevy and Ram all offer that. My F150 FX4 has the auto 4wd which I use whenever it’s rainy or not enough snow to go normal 4x4 high. Also when just casual cruising on dirt roads. Really enjoy your vids Andre!

    • @red6743
      @red6743 2 года назад +2

      Not having Auto-4wd and the locker only being available in 4-Lo has been a deal breakers for me regarding Yota Trucks

    • @OscarSchneegans
      @OscarSchneegans 2 года назад

      @@red6743 : Why would you lock the differential in 4 high?

    • @red6743
      @red6743 2 года назад +2

      @@OscarSchneegans Makes for a much more...lively off-road experience when you're at speed. Breaking the rear loose etc.

    • @Skruteas
      @Skruteas 2 года назад +3

      @@red6743 Sounds like a recipe for broken parts. You can mod it if you want. I don't bother because repairing ruins the day.

    • @OscarSchneegans
      @OscarSchneegans 2 года назад +1

      @@red6743 : Got it. I just want a locking differential for getting unstuck, preventing from getting stuck, so I'd only use it in 4 low anyway.

  • @scotturich
    @scotturich 2 года назад +7

    People will buy this because they buy Toyota but these trucks just don’t separate themselves from the competition

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 2 года назад +1

      And that begs the question, is there really any way for any of the 1/2 tons to stand out anymore, it's down to hair splitting in the segment. If they push the tech or features too much they get too expensive even for what is already a very expensive segment.

    • @scotturich
      @scotturich 2 года назад

      @@mrvwbug4423 I think Ford and Ram have done well to separate themselves, TRX, Rebel, 1500, Wt, Ford Raptor, Tremor, Wt; it just seems like Toyota and Chevy don’t won’t to cover the gamut like the others

    • @kain9407
      @kain9407 2 года назад +2

      @@scotturich
      Toyota is primarily a car company. They don't sink anywhere near the r&d into the trucks that Ford or Ram do but they still make a great truck. Honestly Ford and Ram should be miles ahead of Toyota and they are not.

  • @satsitter
    @satsitter 2 года назад +2

    I have an ‘05 Tundra with just over 100k miles. Love it and wish Toyota still made a smaller model Tundra like the first gen.

    • @Qfty
      @Qfty 10 месяцев назад

      U mean like a tacoma?

  • @mak450
    @mak450 2 года назад +11

    That was some very interesting silent running...because it wasn't silent at all

    • @rondail5675
      @rondail5675 2 года назад +1

      I don't like the fake electric noise. I feel I need some cheese with the whine! Quiet should be quiet.

    • @-Jethro-
      @-Jethro- 2 года назад +4

      Yes, between the EV warning sound and the constant beeping from proximity sensors it destroys any sense of being in nature. Seems like these should be disabled in 4-low.

  • @hmong_keeb_kwm
    @hmong_keeb_kwm 2 года назад +1

    TRD OFFROAD for me if I had to choose.
    Is a better price especially if you get it in the SR5 platform.
    It gets all the same off road system from the locking diff to craw control.
    You can get it with a proper standard 6.5 size bed.
    The last reason I don't purposely go offroad as a hobby like some people.
    The only time I would go off road is when I'm going hunting season or go ice fishing driving on the frozen lake.
    But most of the time I'm driving on normal road.

  • @justinkraft6933
    @justinkraft6933 Год назад

    I really like most of the new interior. I can foresee dirt, food, and grime getting into that transfer case selector switch however.

  • @scottsong20
    @scottsong20 2 года назад +4

    I love the look of the TRD Pro!

  • @markrode7331
    @markrode7331 2 года назад +1

    Awesome Andre.
    Andre : I’m going downhill with no pedal and pulls both hands off the wheel 😂👍🏼

  • @dragongrips8095
    @dragongrips8095 2 года назад +14

    Andre, completely miffed it bro. The line is, “I’m going to be very, very quiet…I’m hunting wabbits…”

    • @ROBinJVILLE
      @ROBinJVILLE 2 года назад +1

      Haha I thought it was coming as well

    • @Cghv-88
      @Cghv-88 2 года назад +2

      @@ROBinJVILLE Unless Andres parents were Soviet Diplomats stationed in the West , his upbringing was deprived from Elmer Fudd and company .

    • @ROBinJVILLE
      @ROBinJVILLE 2 года назад

      @@Cghv-88 ahhh true. That's too bad lol

  • @jza80king
    @jza80king 2 года назад +1

    Curious to know your thoughts on the turbo wastegate actuator issue going on. I've been following it closely on tundra forums.

  • @stioarfi1933
    @stioarfi1933 2 года назад +4

    Good video. One thing you didn't mention is the road drive quality between Off Road and TRD Prod. You did an acceleration test, but which vehicle handled road bumps, road noise, pot holes the best? In addition to off roading, these will be used for daily commutes so how are they on the road? I heard that the TRD Pro may be noiser on the road due to the tires?

    • @kevinduong771
      @kevinduong771 2 года назад

      Than you I want to k ow this also

  • @redracerproductions
    @redracerproductions 2 года назад

    Did you show the payload for the the TRD Off-Road or just the TRD-Pro? I saw the TRD-Pro was 1,355. I would also likely choose the TRD Off-Road because it likely has more payload and tow capacity.

  • @gatordunn
    @gatordunn 2 года назад +5

    ill buy the one that comes with tow hooks

  • @dillonpritchett9594
    @dillonpritchett9594 2 года назад +28

    Both seem hardly like off roaders. No suspension travel, low ground clearance and a long wheel base. Good for long highway drives and a dirt path to a cabin but I can’t picture this going up right logging roads for secluded camping. I’ll stick with my manual Tacoma

    • @useryggfdcc
      @useryggfdcc 2 года назад

      A smaller narrow Tacoma helps a lot for tight trails. My 2021 Tacoma TRD 4X4 Premium with only 50 miles on it when off road and I end up on a very tight trail. The scratching noise was killing me but now I don't care anymore.
      Amazing that those Tacomas can do. The weight helps a lot too.

    • @vlad9999
      @vlad9999 2 года назад +1

      Any inch (excluding ground clearance) or pound added is definitely a disadvantage, except if you actually need it

    • @smrtguy77777
      @smrtguy77777 2 года назад +7

      This is true of any full size truck.

    • @bigslacker666
      @bigslacker666 2 года назад +2

      OTOH you're not gonna put two dirt bikes in the bed and hook up a 6k lb travel trailer in your Taco to get to a desert staging area to set up basecamp and then go rip. No matter what the Tundra was never gonna be a midsized truck. It might not fit your use case, but it's nice to have the option.

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 2 года назад

      @@bigslacker666 Get the long bed on the Taco and it will do exactly that, will fit 2 dirt bikes, and tow a 6000lb trailer

  • @jecaron
    @jecaron 2 года назад

    im leaning towards ordering.. Platinum with trd offroad package and Toyota factory 3" lift.. if i cant do platinum with 1794.. and trd running boards.. hybrid engine as well. cant wait to hear more.. BUT ZR2 is damn temping...

  • @DR-UTAH
    @DR-UTAH 2 года назад

    These videos are so helpful

  • @turdferguson2839
    @turdferguson2839 2 года назад +4

    Lol, pretty pathetic "off road" package, highway tires, plastic bumpers and skid plates and no recovery hooks. Only off roading this thing can handle is hitting the curb in the taco bell drive thru.

  • @farmerjoebrown2189
    @farmerjoebrown2189 2 года назад

    Offroad models should offer better 18” wheel options. Cmon toyota were trying to be loyal customers! Looking forward to durability tests of the new drivetrain! Thanks guys

  • @huntershorizon1671
    @huntershorizon1671 2 года назад

    Please drop the link in comment section,, in one of the video TFL guys says Jeep wrangler Rubicon doesn't have central differential lock, it's blinks on screen but in reality hasn't....
    Thanks 👍👍

  • @jcc9925
    @jcc9925 2 года назад

    My TRD Offroad has 18-inch wheels. Not sure why it's difficult other than regional? I recall prior years TRD Offroad meant 18-imch and TRD Sport is 20-inch.

  • @rightlanehog3151
    @rightlanehog3151 2 года назад +1

    Andre, Can you get the TRD Off-Road package with an 8 foot bed?

  • @ndm8447
    @ndm8447 2 года назад

    Will the 2.6 inch lift kit with 35s be available on the TRD Pro models as well?

  • @hoodieman04
    @hoodieman04 2 года назад +5

    ill be looking for all the used Tundras being traded in. zero interest in a hybrid or turbo 6 truck

  • @WW-wf8tu
    @WW-wf8tu 2 года назад +9

    Silent mode is not silent at all! I would rather hear the engines. Which sound great. To answer the question, yes you get more, but you don't need what the PRO offers over the OR. The extra $$$$ for the PRO to do the same thing the OR can do is a waste for those wanting to save $ and customize to personal tastes. The flashy logos and the bilstein is not worth it for me. I will take an OR with the KDSS and call it good. :)

    • @bettysmith4527
      @bettysmith4527 2 года назад

      I had a hybrid Highlander and it would emit that noise when the engine was off, just so people can hear you coming, otherwise you could easily run someone over because they wouldn't hear your car coming.

  • @alt9874
    @alt9874 2 года назад

    Are you able to turn-off the beeping of the proximity sensors?

  • @CraigSmith568
    @CraigSmith568 2 года назад +4

    I'd go with the Tacoma Off-Road.

  • @twoweeledsoto6072
    @twoweeledsoto6072 Год назад

    When you buy a TRD Pro, does a spotter come included with the truck to help with ground clearance checking?😅 At a quick glance, it looks like there's only about a $4K difference between a TRD Pro and a Limited equipped like a TRD? I think I'd pay the $4K for the wheels and suspension, as well as resale value.

  • @sven_the_giant
    @sven_the_giant 2 года назад

    I would immediately replace the front bumper on the trd pro and get an ADD bumper when it's released

  • @michaeljordan6090
    @michaeljordan6090 2 года назад

    I am looking at a limited with the TRD off road package

  • @Bigbillyrayfan
    @Bigbillyrayfan 2 года назад

    Can the beeps be turned off? Those alerts make me more nervous than anything.

  • @lewiswatchorn7239
    @lewiswatchorn7239 2 года назад +3

    Did I miss the tow rating on the Pro? According to Toyota specs, the payload of the pro is much higher than listed in the door, so are they also overstating the tow rating on their website? People who want to tow a little heavier than a Raptor or TRX might be OK with a Pro if it has closer to 10k capacity but likely not if it is comparable.

    • @shazmodeus2795
      @shazmodeus2795 2 года назад +1

      The payload capacity on the spec sheet is for a bone stock version with the absolute best suspension springs. When the truck gets built, it might get some mid-tier springs based on luck of the draw. Then you start throwing on modern vehicle options: your giant infotainment screens, your enormous heavy plates of glass on your roof, your powered everything, etc, etc. And thus your trucks remaining cargo capacity goes from 1800 to 1355.

  • @lunamaria1048
    @lunamaria1048 2 года назад +1

    Silverado ZR2 is coming?... Wow looks great!

  • @larh0379
    @larh0379 2 года назад

    I think you meant for Ford tremor not raptor for off-road but admit really like the TRD PRO

  • @PeakDecline
    @PeakDecline 2 года назад +15

    Toyota has a loyal buyer base who are going to eat these up... but frankly it feels like Toyota is lagging behind the competition off-road. 20" wheels on the TRD Off-Road must be Toyota's idea of a sick joke. The TRD Pro not having either a front LSD or front locker puts it behind Ford and GM (a real shame since Toyota offers a front locker in the LC300, which shares the same platform as the Tundra). The approach angle is poor due to the new Tundra's chin... and apparently Toyota can't be bothered to design a high clearance front bumper for its off-road trucks... a thing every other brand does. The ground clearance seems behind Tremor, Raptor, ZR2, etc. as well. No recovery hooks on an off-road trucks? See to me this tells the story... off-road was not a top priority, they were still designing with MPG in mind for the TRD Pro... The new Tundra seems like a great on-road option... but these off-road trims are not competitive.

    • @fritty9927
      @fritty9927 2 года назад +4

      I think your right. But keep in mind 95% of the peps who get that kinda truck don’t go off road, they just like the look. Toyota may have taken that into consideration

    • @PeakDecline
      @PeakDecline 2 года назад +4

      @@fritty9927 Seems to lag the competition from the perspective too. No high clearance bumper, no visible skid plates, no recovery hooks, etc. which are all hallmarks of the modern "off-road truck." Toyota has changed the grill pattern and color matched some bumper pieces but its otherwise the same exterior shape as the lower trims. Plus since the TRD Pro will only be available with the hybrid and a top spec interior its going to be priced near a base F-150 Raptor. Which it can't compete with in either off-road performance or sheer street presence. Honestly my feeling is that Toyota simply knows they have more than enough brand loyalist to sell every TRD Pro (usually with a mark up) they can build and therefore the costs to actually compete in off-road performance isn't worth it.

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 2 года назад +4

      For the type of off roading you will do with a stock 1/2 ton they're fine. Full size trucks are too big to fit on jeep trails, and anyone serious about a pre-runner type truck for desert wheeling is not going to use a stock suspension, they're going to install a long travel aftermarket setup and likely go up to 37 inch tires. Though I do agree the pro should have a front locker or LSD, frankly the pro is a rip off just like it's always been, $10,000 premium for $1500 in parts, but if you care about resale you pony up anyway since TRD pros appreciate

    • @fritty9927
      @fritty9927 2 года назад

      Being the largest and most reliable auto manufacturer in the world has its advantages. Seems their strategy is a good one. I don’t remember them asking for a bail out from the govt likecGM and the now defunct Chrysler.

    • @PeakDecline
      @PeakDecline 2 года назад

      @@fritty9927 This is hilarious. The Japanese government pours billions into it's auto industry as a national policy.

  • @Nosaj-dt1ij
    @Nosaj-dt1ij 2 года назад

    Andre needs a cowboy hat with the theme music and terrain. It may be in California, but I think it’s NorCal, so the hat still works. Lol.
    Also, spec sheet for Pro released today says something different than what you read off the door panel for payload etc. Is it possible that’s because those are pre-production models?

  • @luisfont6140
    @luisfont6140 Год назад

    What about the TRD Sport vs TRD Off Road?

  • @krasnaludek298
    @krasnaludek298 2 года назад +2

    If we factor Chevy & GMC as separate products, then the Tundra will be 5th place in sales (in the full-size segment). I’m amazed that you guys are giving the Tundra so much air time, given it’s lack of competitiveness. Almost leads me to believe that these are paid promotions & that’s fine - you guys deserve whatever income streams you can field.
    All these videos confirm that Ford & Ram will outsell Toyota by significant margins; the GM twins too.

  • @emorse912
    @emorse912 Год назад

    The Pro interior looks better than the limited/platinum with TRD option. I prefer the darker dash paneling.

  • @crisbalzano4578
    @crisbalzano4578 2 года назад +1

    Did I miss something? The TRD Pro doesn’t have front hooks?

  • @djkly1
    @djkly1 Год назад

    I notice that Toyota TRD Pro does not give the Hard Tonneau Bed cover accessory like they do on all the other trims, does anyone know why this is? Or is it because they think that if I could spend $70k+ on a truck that I can buy my own hard tonneau cover which is actually more expensive aftermarket wise..?

  • @World.Explorer101
    @World.Explorer101 2 года назад +6

    I was really rooting for the 22 TRD Pro but I think I'm leaning towards a Raptor now we will see I guess

    • @Eddy-09
      @Eddy-09 2 года назад +2

      I’m on the same boat. I didn’t think it would even be close to Raptor pricing, since it’s not even close to Raptor status, and they decided to charge MORE than the Raptor? Toyota v screwed up big on pricing.

    • @gerritvonholt2330
      @gerritvonholt2330 2 года назад +3

      @@Eddy-09 Huge tundra fan, but not sure why I wouldn't by a Raptor instead

    • @Eddy-09
      @Eddy-09 2 года назад +1

      @@gerritvonholt2330 There’s legit NO reason other than slightly better MPGs. To me personally, that’s not even close to enough. Even $60k starting would’ve been too much for the Tundra TRD pro, it can’t even keep up with a $53k Tremor.

    • @MichaelOrton
      @MichaelOrton 2 года назад +1

      I was waiting for the new Tundra but lucked upon a like new 2018 with 20k miles, still under extended factory warranty even. I have zero regrets about not waiting. The Raptor really is in another league.

  • @sersan1317
    @sersan1317 2 года назад +4

    My 21 trd pro lr just went up in value after seeing the 22 trd pro. Not impressed with the price tag, mpgs, towing, and or payload, hybrid was suppose to better the mpgs, all that extra horsepower and torque for what reason to go 2 mph off road, if i wanted to race I would buy a sports car. Nothing to see here, let's wait for the next generation.

  • @hawk3331
    @hawk3331 2 года назад

    Can you fit a 35" in the Trd Pros wheel well ?

  • @duggydo
    @duggydo 2 года назад

    That beeping would drive me insane.

  • @kevinduong771
    @kevinduong771 2 года назад

    Which tundra model has the best on road comfort ride?

  • @brettmichael9570
    @brettmichael9570 2 года назад

    Witch one is Best?? 2021...next question!

  • @ghostchicken69
    @ghostchicken69 2 года назад +2

    If you have the money then the TRD pro is the way to go.

  • @mattdagger1480
    @mattdagger1480 2 года назад +3

    No front locker makes it a hard pass for me

  • @normt430
    @normt430 2 года назад

    "...Chevrolet Silverado1500 Hybrid is the only hybrid in the full-size truck segment. Compared with comparable, non-hybrid models, it delivers 33-percent greater city fuel economy and a 23.5-percent improvement in overall fuel economy, all with the capability customers want in full-size truck - including a 6,100-pound (2,767 kg) trailering capacity.
    Estimated fuel economy for both 2WD and 4WD models is 20 mpg in the city and 23 on the highway...." GM Media with a larger 300-volt battery and 6.0l V8 circa 2012!

  • @Silverback_GMT410
    @Silverback_GMT410 2 года назад +3

    It blows my mind why Toyota has an issue with giving people a locking diff.

  • @morningdrums
    @morningdrums Год назад

    I had thought possibly of getting the tundra but not sure what trim. but I don't care about the high speed of the vehicle. Just a good hunting, camping rugged truck

  • @mr2gud2u
    @mr2gud2u 2 года назад

    Look at that flex with the sway bars still attached!

    • @KeithKacanek
      @KeithKacanek 2 года назад +3

      Lol, what flex?

    • @mr2gud2u
      @mr2gud2u 2 года назад

      @Keith Kacanek haha it's not that bad for the stay bar still being attached. Look how the rear wheel tucks up into the bed.

  • @jeffreycuellar241
    @jeffreycuellar241 2 года назад +1

    I would def go with the TRD OR, pro is a waste of money, it’s only good for resale value, it’s a nice truck, but the TRD OR has all the capabilities the pro has, would love to have the 1794 with the TRD OR package

  • @LX450_Adventure
    @LX450_Adventure 2 года назад +9

    I appreciate the effort but these synthetic "off-road" courses do nothing for me and prove very little. 6:11 shows how they put gravel down in their "rock" section to maximize traction. The entire course is groomed.

  • @ohioguy4326
    @ohioguy4326 2 года назад

    It's not terrible but it needs 4wd auto, tow hooks and swap the front end for the new Sequoia front end.

  • @chauncey_vw5015
    @chauncey_vw5015 2 года назад +4

    Would the Ford F-150 tremor be a better comparable to than the Raptor? Really enjoy Andre comparison videos!

    • @Eddy-09
      @Eddy-09 2 года назад +1

      Raptor is the big boy while Tremor is the little brother, and this TRD pro can’t even keep up with the Tremor, much less Raptor. Can’t even hang with the Tremor in pricing.

  • @Georgejoseph74
    @Georgejoseph74 2 года назад +1

    surround cameras are becoming very common..do they work well at night??do they have any night time illumination??towing or attaching trailer at night, any chance you can make a video,plzzz???

    • @jbw5485
      @jbw5485 2 года назад

      I’m really liking that feature also. I noticed some lights in the rear bumper at the hitch area. I’m serious if those are to aid in hooking up a trailer at night.

  • @RoyAcosta
    @RoyAcosta 2 года назад +1

    I'm somewhat sad that technology is taking the fun out of old school 4x4 daily use. Rock crawling was not a daily use nor a concern in my days. Just get out and enjoy the fun on having to do it all with friends.

  • @SJDJFJFSKSXNDJWJQI
    @SJDJFJFSKSXNDJWJQI 2 года назад +2

    Or just wait for gmc at4x and get a front locker as well and a v8.

  • @jay34183
    @jay34183 2 года назад

    Sounds pretty good for a v6

  • @jonathansandoval5858
    @jonathansandoval5858 2 года назад

    Love me some TFL videos but as a midwesterner hearing "tAyota" is painful! Andre, youre still awesome tho

  • @veasnakoy
    @veasnakoy Месяц назад

    58k for the hybrid limit with Panoramic moon roof and TRD package? Where can i find that in S. California? That is a steal.

    • @veasnakoy
      @veasnakoy Месяц назад

      I would be lucky to find a simple limited with either the TRD package or Panoramic moon roof for 64K

  • @alexpuls8219
    @alexpuls8219 2 года назад +4

    6200 lbs?! That’s a heavy truck!

  • @Offroad_Outdoors
    @Offroad_Outdoors 2 года назад

    If you had $65,000 dollars and were looking for a do it all truck (work: drive around 2,000 miles a month, hunting/camping, other hobbies) and wanted a 4 door with 6.5ft bed, which truck would you be purchasing????
    Ford with powerboost or 2022 Toyota Tundra???
    Or is there another truck you would prefer?!
    Thank you for your time! I am looking forward in hearing your opinion!

    • @Eddy-09
      @Eddy-09 2 года назад +1

      The Ford Tremor is priced MUCH better than this and is also more capable. Let’s not even talk about how much more capable the Raptor is, it’s even cheaper too.. Toyota is crazy for pricing this so high.

  • @KTMcaptain
    @KTMcaptain 2 года назад

    I’d would be nice if someone would make electric motor kits for existing vehicles.

  • @HANS-tb4me
    @HANS-tb4me 2 года назад

    Is there a noticeable difference between HV power plant and naturally aspirated power plant power wise?

    • @HANS-tb4me
      @HANS-tb4me 2 года назад

      I guess my question is it really worth additional $3.5

  • @chiosaeteurn9790
    @chiosaeteurn9790 2 года назад

    How many pound does the SR-5 model weigh ?

  • @bobbygriffin5658
    @bobbygriffin5658 2 года назад +8

    Surely I'm not the only one that wishes they had 6.5 bed on the trd pro....

    • @ughmas
      @ughmas 2 года назад +3

      Kind of defeats the purpose and hurts all your departure angles and turning radius off roading

    • @primalj_2a433
      @primalj_2a433 2 года назад

      No you aren't

    • @bobbyb.1743
      @bobbyb.1743 2 года назад

      Yep, I’d very much like to see the 6.5 as an option

  • @user-cg5yp7pi3e
    @user-cg5yp7pi3e 2 года назад

    A question: Do you make this Andra's pickup in America? Is there a company in America? Answer me, my love 🌹♥️

  • @lutomson3496
    @lutomson3496 2 года назад

    what about gas mileage between the 2? inquiring minds want to know

  • @ivanalandzak2521
    @ivanalandzak2521 2 года назад

    What’s the point of the locker if you can’t use it unless in 4 low. Just another miss.

  • @user-tw8ov
    @user-tw8ov 2 года назад +6

    Wtf is the wine

    • @Torsee
      @Torsee 2 года назад

      Manufacturers are not allowed to make silent vehicles.

    • @rondail5675
      @rondail5675 2 года назад

      Put the fake noise outside when driving under 30mph.
      I am going to need some cheese with that whine. :)

    • @channelnamehere4065
      @channelnamehere4065 2 года назад

      for blind people to hear there's a vehicle running next to them.

    • @WW-wf8tu
      @WW-wf8tu 2 года назад +1

      I did not see Andre drinking any wine. Would be a bad deal if he was. lol

  • @dancross3340
    @dancross3340 2 года назад

    is the limited as pricey as the Pro ?

  • @kennyordonez2326
    @kennyordonez2326 10 месяцев назад

    The prices in California for these trucks are very expensive, I saw 3 Limited ones and they didn't have panoramic sunroof, they didn't have crowl control and they were priced around $65,000 I only saw one with crowl control and panoramic sunroof but it had a price of $ 72,000 same as a 1794 EDITION.
    and the TRD PRO are not cheaper than $78,000 some dealers have them priced for $85,000 plus taxes and fees. 😀

  • @Eddy-09
    @Eddy-09 2 года назад +10

    $66k starting for the TRD Pro??? Hahaha Toyota is crazy for that!! This does not compete with the Raptor in performance and in my opinion neither in looks. I really was liking the Tundra but no way would I pay $66k for it. It’s about $15k more than the previous TRD pro model…. They messed up with that price.

    • @wongchai807
      @wongchai807 2 года назад

      New from the ground up us the hybrid...I think its expensive but not over priced for everything your getting.

    • @Eddy-09
      @Eddy-09 2 года назад +3

      @@wongchai807 You’re getting more with these other competitors and those are also priced much better. You get way more with the Raptor and even that is priced better than this

    • @wongchai807
      @wongchai807 2 года назад

      @@Eddy-09 the raptor starts at 65k.. 450hp 🤣

    • @Eddy-09
      @Eddy-09 2 года назад +3

      @@wongchai807 What’s your point? Raptor starting price is cheaper and can do a lot more than the tundra. This heavy truck isn’t really going to be any faster if that’s what you’re implying. If you want power go for the TRX otherwise you’re just splitting hairs with power for these two.

    • @wongchai807
      @wongchai807 2 года назад +1

      @@Eddy-09 the tundra starts at 36k , the raptor starts at 65k🤷‍♂️ Compare pro to the raptor lol thats what I'm saying. Pro 66k 437 hp to raptor 65k 450hp what more can the raptor do? The pro is loaded at 66k. Im not talking about speed i could care less they're big trucks.

  • @mckinney6059
    @mckinney6059 2 года назад

    Oh we all know the after market bumpers are gonna have some

  • @Snappydadshoes
    @Snappydadshoes 2 года назад +3

    66 grand and the same MPG as a tacoma (in 4x4)? What the actual hell, Toyota?

    • @Eddy-09
      @Eddy-09 2 года назад +1

      Agreed. Way over priced.

  • @JH-mt3pp
    @JH-mt3pp 2 года назад

    We rent Jeeps in the Ouray, Colorado area for off road trails. This truck or any others in it's class are way too big to have fun on those trails.

  • @MiguelPalaviccini
    @MiguelPalaviccini 2 года назад

    Wait, the SR5 w TRD off-road package comes with hybrid power train option? I don’t see it on the Toyota site. Game changer.