2022 Toyota Tundra Capstone Towing Review - So How Does The Most Expensive Tundra Ever Tow?
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Andrey, you have been busting out the content while the boss is on vacation. I hope he realizes what a great find he has in you. It’s comforting when the boss can go out of town and know someone like an Andrey can really step up. Therefore, TFL doesn’t miss a beat. Good job sir.
Roman is kind of annoying lol, sometimes he acts like he knows everything even when he’s wrong
@@calisthenicsforlife177 Amen
The trans temp is on a different page to the right of the tach. Shows up in place of the boost and hybrid gauge.
Andre working hard, cranking out the content! Great review as always.
73K for a hybrid 1/2 ton is crazy, you could get a 3/4 ton diesel and still have room for some comfort.
These prices are similar to the domestics, with less power
you also dont get the big discounts on tundras like you can with domestics. Tundra will probably cost more out the door
@@ForTehNguyen unfortunately for the past 12-18 months, there is no such thing as a discount at a dealer. New cars are selling over msrp, and used values are up 30%. Dealers have no incentive whatsoever to give discounts when they’re making more money than ever.
@@LoboLakerGaming There are still plenty of dealers at least here in the south that are selling trucks under msrp, just don't expect to get a raptor, trx, or other extremely desireable trucks to be sold under msrp.
@@InvestBetter. do u have a truck? The highest tq number in the 1/2 ton segment is the Tundra. It beats out the current leader the f150. It truck is a solid and well built
Didn’t expect 30mpg but 21 leaves me to wonder what the point of getting the hybrid is. At least with Ford there are features that accompany the hybrid
Agreed - expected much better city number with the hybrid
Yea the ram ecodiesel get 32 mpg highway and 22 city
the mpg gets better once broken in, like with TFL's personal tundra, after breaking in they got something like 26 mpg
@@kaseyc5078 I would say only slightly better but I would assume in real world testing around the city you could get much better than EPA. I’ve noticed they tend to low ball the city number with hybrid trucks
You have to drive a hybrid like a hybrid... if you drive on electric only your mpg is basically infinity
I'll already looking forward to the new game changing 2036 Tundra. My 2008 should last till then just fine.
They’ll change the engine option and everyone will complain about losing the “bulletproof” twin turbo.
@@gdub350 compared to the 5.7 the 3.4 TT will never be bullet proof, not exactly a fair comparison though I'd suggest.
At the rate they increase prices, the 2036 tundra should be just under a million dollars and with a 36 year loan, it will still be too much to afford.
I had an 08 Tundra, wasn't impressed at all with the quality control...rather the lack of. Must have gotten one built on a Monday by a bunch of drunk monkeys. Front differential replaced at 87k (TSB for Front Differential howl/growl), both rear wheel bearings at 48k and again at 77k...Max I ever towed with it was 6700lbs and that was very seldom and well within the 10k towing capacity that Toyota claimed...when I sold it at 104k the front differential needed replaced again for bad bearings, and the rear wheel bearings were growling again as well.
My 05 Tundra just keeps on going only issue with it was the AC and most of that was caused by the dealer's service department failing to listen to someone with far more AC experience than their service techs ever had. The AC compressor was bad, leaking oil all over the place, they kept charging the system and couldn't figure out why it wasn't working...they put in a new condenser, replaced the compressor clutch, and not exactly sure how they missed all the refrigeration oil all over the place under the engine bay. My 05 Tundra just feels much more solid than my 08 did.
@@wildbill23c mine must have been built on a Wednesday after the hangovers dissipated. I get the front diff whine when it's cold, not a huge annoyance. Just clocked over 210K hopefully it has 20 years left in her.
I towed a fairly heavy flat bed trailer with a light load last week with my 2023 Capstone last week. It was the first tow with Tundra and I was a bit apprehensive, as my previous pickup was a 2019 GMC Denali 3/4-ton with the 6.6 Duramax. As he said in video, and I will wholeheartedly agree, it is very diesel-like. I’ve been very pleased with my Tundra Capstone choice!
I'd like to see a towing comparison between the hybrid Tundra, hybrid F150, and the GMC 3.0 diesel, and see what the fuel economy difference would be. I read elsewhere that the hybrid system in the F150 no longer works while towing. It's gas engine only. Would be interesting...
Why they are all out classed by cheaper 3/4 ton diesels well at least the tundra is more than f250 3/4 tons. Also I believe both ford and gm make 3.0 diesels that will get better mpg than gas but to be fair the ford and tundra are in a different class as they are 13k tow rated 4d trucks while the Chevy 3.0 is only rated at 8.5k ish in 4d trucks lol some mid size trucks are rated higher then the 1/2ton 3.0 in towing. I don’t know why it’s so low with the 3.0 as the same platform has 12k rated gas builds
@@mddunlap03 the only way youre towing 13k with an f150 is if you get a stripped down base model XL single cab long bed, 2wd 3.5 ecoboost with the max tow and max haul package. Literally nobody will buy this becauze they want all of the bells and whistles. Those king ranches, higher teimed lariats, and limiteds wont tow anywhere near 13k. Those numbers are just bragging rights that literally no f150 on the lot will actually do.
Thank you for towing this Airstream! This answers my question of needing towing-mirrors. The majority of Airstreams are 8 feet wide. It's really hard to find a new hybrid Tundra with towing mirrors. Looks like I won't need them!
I think the non-hybrid power numbers are plenty for the majority of towing that Tundra owners will do and therefore the hybrid should have been designed to add fuel efficiency. I currently tow a 10,000lb trailer with a truck that has 300hp and 450ft-lbs of torque and it does fine. The non-hybrid engine has those numbers beat and I don't believe too many people will be towing more than 10K with a truck that has such limited payload.
Best find a new name. If they plan on selling any. Cause that name is just silly.
The Toyota Hybrid SUVs and Trucks have never been about fuel economy, rather they have used the electric motors for the power and torque starting with the original Hybrid Highlander. They simply use a smaller engine and compensate for the lower power numbers with the electric motors.
Hope you enjoyed your time in Carmel valley! It’s where I live and grew up. Wonderful place
I think this is a mistake making the hybrid engine exclusive to the luxury models. There are many people, like myself, who would want that engine in an SR5 model.
It would raise the MSRP of the SR5 though, as with all technology, will eventually be an option for all trims/models. But I agree, would be cool if it was an option.
Could be on the way in the coming years.
Pueb
Thinking the f-150 xlt hybrid might be the best option.
@@robertshunter hybrid option starts with the limited model. Can’t get it on SR or SR5
Andre, great review. As a fan of TFL truck, I always shake my head at how lucky you are to make a living driving, testing, torturing, and 4 wheeling trucks! Why didn’t my high school counselor tell me this could have been an option for me 25 years ago!? Lol! Keep the videos coming. It really helps as I’m leaning more and more towards Tundra!
So with the hybrid option, you gain 1mpg combined but lose about 300lbs of payload capacity and your under-seat storage...doesn't really seem worth it. Plus that 1mpg difference will slowly disappear as the batteries age.
And a higher price on the truck.
Andre thank you for everything you and your team do to keep us up to date. I have a feeling that you are not to excited about these numbers. In summary, other than the luxury its not worth it to by the Hybrid when it tows less, payload capacity is less and the difference in fuel is 1 gallon compared to the none Hybrid. Really? All this wait time and secret from Toyota to put the same numbers as the Ram with the etorque engine, cost more and pull less? Completely disappointed.
Overall its looks like they did a pretty good job. However payload is still a concern. Does the payload number include a full tank of gas? So if you take payload minus the tongue weight, then subtract say 200 lbs each for driver and passenger (realistic now a days), what are you left with? Seems to me all the 1/2 ton trucks are inflating their capacity numbers. But I ask, do you really want to be towing at or near max? I just think about coming down a mountain road in a windy rain storm, near max load, and having the tail wag the dog. Talk about a white knuckle experience!
Payload includes a tank of gas and a 150 lb driver. Anything more has to be subtracted
With these trucks you will always max out your payload long before towing capacity. The Tundra has always and continues to be just a bloated toy...was far from impressed with my 08 Tundra...engine was great the rest of the truck was far from Toyota quality.
@@nerdyeevideos1879 pretty sure your payload rating from the factory doesn't already include a passenger. Fuel, yes.
@@XploreAz I think you're right about passengers, I was thinking of the SAE tow standard. I'm pretty sure a full tank of fuel is included from I can tell. The Tundra is pretty decent as a tow vehicle with a 1820 lb payload rating in the SR5 (up to). We just ordered a F350 to get a larger camper, but have used our Toyota Sequoia to pull our 5,000 lb travel trailer for the past three years and it has done well. Everything has a purpose and so long as it is used for that purpose, it should be alright. I will say that that shopping for 3/4 ton trucks really opened my eyes to how very little people even ask whether what they have is appropriate or not. About every 2500 ram we found had a tow rating of around 2,400 lbs..... That is pitiful IMO, but I see them running around pulling 5th wheels with a pin weight of 2,200 or more! You pay 76k for this truck while the SR5 would likely go around 50k. Sure the diesel would be nice, but all that for 400 lbs of payload.
Example:
www.autonationchryslerdodgejeepramjohnsoncity.com/new/Ram/2022-Ram-2500-fb2a3e9b0a0e09af4c14b9236c8ce9ac.htm
@@nerdyeevideos1879 it all depends on the trim level too. For instance my Dad’s 2500 RAM with the 6.4l HEMI has a payload capacity of right around 4k lbs. If you take that same truck but with the 6.7l Cummins, the payload capacity is a lot lower, like the one you linked.
Damn Andre has been working overdrive lately.
Love that trailer! But some of these videos are becoming increasingly unrealistic for most of us who will never have anywhere close to enough money to afford this stuff. Would love to see these balanced with vids that have some more realistic options.
I’m sure it’s a great truck but I don’t know why Toyota advertised it as a “world beater”.
Because it’s virtually nonexistent marketing overhype. It’s as believable as “Lexus Driving Signature”
Yeah i was expecting alot more for the hype. World beater isn't what I'd call it. Id say it just caught up and that's about it.
@@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix it’s Toyota Lexus marketing at its stupidest 😆
Also it’s not caught up to its rivals. It’s still quite behind
@@naveenthemachine right! Saying world beater i wpuld habe expeced best in class something.
I was wanting a hybrid because I had hoped for better than 1mpg difference in combined, but now I’d just rather save $3600 and get the non-hybrid and at least keep the underseat storage and less complicated hybrid system
Dont buy hybrid,,its junk bro
Love your videos. Very thorough review. 9:41 from what I''ve been told by the Toyota rep, you can't (so far) add those powered towable mirrors to the TRD Pro in Canada. I need those so I'm hoping we can add them. Very important.
This is a hybrid tuned for towing not for max MPG while under cutting diesel upgrade costs. You have to look at the cost of ownership of a diesel vs Toyota hybrid. This is excluding Ford however that will give you a hybrid on an XL trim, best bang for your buck.
I like this more than the Rivian.. especially for towing my boat.
That iForce Max Is A Rocket To Tow Like 8000 LBS Trailer Going Up The Hill, So Amazing!! I Wanna See That Motor On The Ike Gauntlet.
New Tundra doesn't have the payload to tow 8000lbs. You are maxed out just with your tongue weight. This truck is not made to tow 8k
I really like the truck but the mpg’s are a little disappointing.
2 mpgs over the non hybrid version is "a little disappointing"?
With those numbers there's no reason to even release a hybrid. The only benefit is the increased performance which isn't worth all the extra tech to break 5 years down the road.
@@optimusprime3484 sure, but assuming that this vehicle spends 70% of it's life cycle withouht a trailer, the hybrid is the best solution. Even when it's only used for towing, over lets say 250k miles, 2mpg saved per gallon is a huge improvement!
@@optimusprime3484 lol…. Toyota hybrids are the absolute best on the market hands down. Nothing is going to brake in 5 years.
@@vj8452 totally agree with you, when going downhill or cruising in cities the mph is even better.
The hybrid system is very high tech and probably not easy to work on ,when it’s time to take it to the dealer I just wonder how many mechanics will know how to work on it plus the fuel mileage is not that good
Can you tow something closer to max capacity? That would be really helpful.
Very nice truck. I test drive the 1794 4x2 and I drove it in Eco Mode. The RPM drops in that mode which will save gas because at 75 mph. I turned 1500 rpm vs about 2000 rpms in standard mode. I was also on Cruise Control. I can't wait until my 4x4 comes in to do my own mileage test. I currently use non-ethanol gas in all of my family cars and noticed a much greater mpg. I will test non-ethanol and ethanol on my new Tundra and see what happens. Eco Mode and cruise control may be the answer I guess I will see. Keep Living Keep Giving
was hoping for better mpg on the 4x4
Nice review Andre! I was thinking the mpgs would be a little better towing, but it is what it is.
Andre, thanks for the towing look!
Interesting that Toyota chooses one of the lightest Airstream trailers, an ~20 foot class (4000 ish unladen, 450 on hitch tops). And still the Tundra, with air rear is sagging bed slightly lower than front and trailer is a little nose down.
Good to see the truck can handle an easy job well, I guess.
With the lack of payload, 5000 pounds will be all you can realistically pull with this turd.
I was also wondering why it looked to be sagging the rear of the truck.
Yep, with all these towing tests the manufacturers really skimp on the weight being towed
At least this time they left the sticker on the trailer haha When Toyota debuted the 2022 Tundra the test trailer's GVWR sticker was mysteriously scraped off
Truth. Saw the single axle and that was it… a ford ranger could tow this.
TFL is my favorite automotive channel at the moment, you guys do an awesome job. one little asterix I would add about pricing, and maybe all manufacturers are the same right now, who knows. I went to toyota yesterday, looking for a 4x4 tacoma trd off road. buit one on their website, came to about 37k. 5k down, excellent credit score, 300/mo lease. same truck at the dealer, 41k, 5k down, excellent score, 450/mo. so the price they tell you here, Id take with a grain of salt. that entry 55k hybrid will probably be closer to 65 when you can actually buy one. in contrast, you can get a 3 year old lease return f350 diesel with 50k miles for about 60k. still 20mpg combined, and 18k towing capacity. sooo yeah. and there might be rumours of a super duty hybrid from ford? hell, if they make a hybrid diesel, its game over for the competition.
With all new diesel problems with URÉE,the end of small diesel truck is coming……
Nice truck but let’s be honest, you’re scraping the bottom of the content barrel when you are demonstrating the power mirrors in the premiere of the vehicle
My favorite part was when he explained the power mirrors
No way I was buying this $90k truck if it didn’t have power mirrors, so I’m glad he demonstrated the power mirrors. no power mirrors was a deal breaker
@@messagefamilystyled1101 🤣
If the Limited has 1400 payload and this hybrid has 1330 are we saying the battery is only 70 pounds or less? By the way my 2013 Honda Pilot has more payload. I was hoping for 1700 or higher in any trim.
Yes, there’s something fishy going on here
With a 2 mpg difference, driving 15,000 miles a year 55% city, at my current fuel price of 3.47, after 10 years the hybrid saves $2600. It costs $3400+tax.
Who engineered this and why?
Maybe you didn’t notice it has significantly more power and torque as well…🤔
Also the fact that you are now lugging around the weight (and maint) of two powertrain systems all the time. How does that effect the payload and total GVW. Likely run into an overload situation earlier that with simply one powertrain.
Yeah people will buy this for the hp/torque gains over the standard motor.
Watch the video agin and pay more attention. Andre answered all of your questions
It's for those that tow lighter trailers.
No hybrid for us plebs who want SR5 and 8 foot bed. Wonderful. The 5.5 foot bed isn't even a truck to me. I guess I hold onto my 2016 Tundra for the foreseeable future.
It's a funny trend we're in with Toyota:
1- Smaller rear end drivetrain
2- more complexity
3- higher stressed small block twin-turbo 3.4L
4- no full-time 4WD (I don't mean 4 auto)
5- 5% increase in highway fuel economy (25% better in the city)
6- likely (but still TBD) worse long term reliability than 5.7L V8
All of this and you're paying $11K more (2022 TRD Pro vs 2021 TRD Pro)
Nuts
nice truck. but not priced for us regular guys who need to be around $50 out the door 4x4 hybrid and that s al I need
I really like this drivetrain, great review 👍
Great job as always.
Should have an eco mode that enables much better fuel efficiency and tow mode that basically does what already does. With today’s technology, I don’t see why they couldn’t build it to run 100% battery for a work commute through the city. I guess they’ve only done that with the “prime” Toyota models, but why not do that here? Maybe in a few years.
The battery would have to be massive to enable any reasonable amount of pure EV mileage. The RAV4 Prime has over double the battery size of a Prius Prime, so a theoretical Tundra Prime would likely near double that figure again making for a battery bigger than many subcompact pure EVs.
Good, can’t wait to pick up my 1794 hybrid.
I expected a lot better from Toyota with their hybrid engine. I think GMs diesel is a much better option if you want a half ton.
but its a GM!
Agreed. And you can get the diesel in almost all trims now.
@@Chuckles527 The new tundra is having a ton of issues. I’d take the GM diesel and I’m a Toyota guy. Really wish they would bring a diesel here.
GM products are garbage dude ......Everybody knows to stay away from the junk GM/CHEVY builds
Cummins > duramax
Nice review Andre.
With having Toyotas in our family, it’s funny to see Toyota offering towing mirror features that my ‘15 F-150 has had for the last 7 years.
I had a 2010 Tundra Platinum and loved it until I needed to tow my 7k lbs boat on a regular basis and I was getting about 7mpg towing. I traded for a 2018 Ram 2500 diesel because I couldn’t wait for the Tundra redesign. This test confirmed I made the right decision for my towing and mileage needs. I was hoping for much better from Toyota.
So in other words you needed a truck
Toyota wouldn't put a diesel engine in it, but you get the upcharge for the hybrid just like a diesel. Diesel torque in a gas powertrain...I like that, but driving range is still going to be a priority for me. If I can get more range and payload with just the standard 3.5L over the hybrid power when towing, then I'd question why the hybrid.
Hybrid twin turbo diesel😉
If the f150 hybrid vs regular 3.5l towing tests are any indication, then when towing anything significant the hybrid drops down to par with the regular drivetrain. Regular driving is where the gains are, but under load the engine has to do the work
Great video..
I have a question
When does the electric motor stop in which speed and switch to fuel?
Thank you in advance 🙏🏻
"...Chevrolet Silverado1500 Hybrid is the only hybrid in the full-size truck segment. Compared with comparable, non-hybrid models, it delivers 33-percent greater city fuel economy and a 23.5-percent improvement in overall fuel economy, all with the capability customers want in full-size truck - including a 6,100-pound (2,767 kg) trailering capacity.
Estimated fuel economy for both 2WD and 4WD models is 20 mpg in the city and 23 on the highway...." GM Media with a larger 300-volt battery and 6.0l V8 circa 2012!
Nice initial video. Were all waiting for your true Ike gauntlet test drive and longer mpg run with the heavier, double axle trailer that this was made to tow. You mentioned something about a variable suspension or something that sounded different than the air suspension on the rear - any details????
Great video! Are you able to feel a significant difference in towing power and start/passing acceleration compared to your non-hybrid tundra? I only tow a 4000 pound boat/trailer on weekends in Wisconsin, therefore I’m trying to figure out if I should wait a year for the hybrid to become available or get the tundra like yours now.
Idk if this is to late but from a dead stop Toyota pulls so much power that they feel the same. But rolling and passing power and towing hybrid walks the normal one all day
What do you think of the waste gate problems on the new tundras?
So, the Tundra hybrid starts at the Limited trim level, I believe you can get the F150 hybrid at the XL trim level (yes, both seem to only offer the hybrid setup for crew cab models), towing works just like the F150 hybrid (not surprising, didn't Ford and Toyota work on the hybrid setup together, then, decided to part ways), that Capstone price, Toyota realize where the profit are, you can sale all the small vehicles you want, but full-size pickups and SUVs is where the money is
Buddy has 2022 Tundra he's having Turbo problems also there seems to be internal engine problems with these trucks possibly the camshafts
Not surprised at all.
When i heard the V8 was going away, i got my new Tundra in 2020. I want nothing to do with turbos and or a hybrid system. I feel the 5.7 is a maligned engine. It is actually not that bad on fuel. If you set the cruise at 110 km hr or 65 mph...it gets decent fuel economy.
@@mikefoehr235 I had an 08 Tundra, that must have been built on a Monday after they spent a weekend at the bar LOL. Front differential had to be replaced in it twice for bearing failures, rear wheel bearings twice as well, and at 104k I sold it and was needing both issues addressed again. Sad because other than those problems I loved the truck, had plenty of power for everything I needed a truck for...the only other issues I had that weren't nearly as major was the front end never seemed to maintain an alignment, and the CD player quit giving CD's back LOL.
I had the base model 4x4 extended cab with the 6.5 foot bed and 5.7L V8....had 2 feet of snow a few years back and it went through it like nothing. I had the BFG TA KO2's on it and never had traction issues once the tires warmed up...they were 8 ply tires it turned out, bit heavy but held up pretty well.
@William Sevier I had a 13 Tacoma. I traded it in with 170 000 kms. Only major repair was one hub/bearing. I chose to replace the rear springs because one was cracked. Overall, best truck I ever owned. To early to tell on my Tundra. Only issues were a bad 12 volt battery at 6 months and one bad Michelin tire at 12 months. I have 23 000 kms on it now.
@@mikefoehr235 I had my 08 Tundra for 9 years, sold it with the original battery still in it LOL.
The Tacoma just seemed quite cramped to me and lacking in power, especially living in the mountains. The factory Michelin's lasted about 47k and that was with a lot of camping trips on backroads. I wouldn't mind another Tundra, or possibly a Nissan Titan....I know they had a bad run with bearings for a couple of model years it seemed, but must have replaced them with more bad bearings ugg.
Probably be another year or so before I jump back into full size truck territory and might go 3/4 ton this time as my 88 F250 is getting pretty rough around the edges, and at 721k on the old 460 and C6, it needs a lot of gaskets and seals replaced in the engine, as well as I'm sure new bearings, rings, etc.
Which is better capstone or ram trx? 🤔 worth of buying???
Did anyone else see the boost gage go to 15psi on regular gasoline? Wonder what this thing will boost on E85!?
I guess one cannot have it all, towing, 0-60, payload and gas mileage. A bit disappointed by these numbers nonetheless.
Diesel usually has it all.
Looks good, I would like the TRD Pro review, please.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the new tundra is missing the mirror defrost feature from the last generation tundra.
What is the apples to apples price jump for the HV? As in what is the jump from a 1794 4WD to a 1794 4WD HV??
Are those tow numbers for the truck being tested or is that the stripped down 2wd,standard cab?
A nice truck I’m thinking about a platinum for 2023
Wonder when we will see V8's with electric motors added on?
Andre, can you confirm max towing on the TRD Pro 4x4 and payload
Appreciate the review; so the Tundra Hybrid tows in Hybrid mode and you find the Hybrid fuel saving features working, meaning running on electric motor while towing? This was never actually mentioned in this review. But assuming the electric motor was working by the video but still fully clear. I'm under the understanding that the Ford F150 Hybrid; the eletric motor / hybrid features don't work in Tow Mode.
No, he said the opposite at the beginning. The motor NEVER shuts off when towing. So it is always burning gas.
In the Ford the electric motors work with tow/haul but it won’t go to all electric when in tow/haul. Same as the Tundra. I believe. So you get all the power from the motor and battery when towing a load.
So which one tows better this powertrain or your PowerBoost?
For such a long wait to see the hybrid mpgs I have to say this isn’t as impressive when compared to the non hybrid and is quite a let down
exactly! Toyota screwed up on this truck IMHO. Horrible looking body, meager MPG gains, and more expensive If they screw up the rumored hybrid Tacoma, I am done with Toyota
@@glock19gen3 done with Toyotas. But will always come back to one. Lol
@@glock19gen3 The truck being ruined isn't an honest opinion... It's an honest fact that Toyota ruined the Tundra...... As a 4Runner buyer, I'm terrified to see my favorite SUV ruined with the 6th gen unveiled with a turbo charged, 4 cylinder engine, hybrid.. That's the route Toyota is going, with all this.
This hybrid, as stated by Toyota, designed for more power
Capstone is nice but it's not worth the extra. It will be close to 90k here in Canada. 1794 is still the luxury trim.
What are the white lines under the speedometer? Does it indicate lane position? Pretty cool
You say what do I think?
If your buying it for power and towing then the I-Froce Max is a fine truck to buy.
Is not top numbers, but it is a competitive number and more then the previous Tundra.
But if your buying it for better Gas then I'll say NO and just go with the regular I-Force or some other brand.
To me I'm all about that range distance and that's what I look for personally.
I don't care if a truck gets 14MPG or 17MPG or 22MPG or 25MPG as long as you have a competitive enough Gas tank size for your MPG for distance then I'm fine with it.
To me I'm all about that range.
Is the same reason why I back out of the NIssan Titan XD Gasoline.
I drove it and the power was impressive enough to me for what I do.
I love the payload numbers on the Titan XD it was impressive.
I love that I can get standard size 6.5 bed on the Nissan Titan Crew Cab.
The MPG was not impressive but I was fine with it regardless, but what drove me off was the fact that it was only avaliable in a 26 Gallon gas tank and that made me back off because it lack the range.
The same reason why I can't stand my sister 2013 Corolla.
Yes it was getting 30MPG to 34MPG but it only had like 11 Gallon gas tank.
Yes your paying less at the pump but your gonna be visiting the gas station more also.
is that paint flake or dirt above the exhaust on the TRD Pro at 5:04?
I was going to ask the same thing. Looks like paint flaked off. The truck looks rather clean so it probably isn't dirt.
During this test did you use 87 octane or 91 octane gasoline?
Not as bad price wise as some had feared I think. Ignoring dealer markups that is.
One question I have about towing with regen braking, does it proportionally control the trailer brakes in regen mode even without your foot on the brake? I would be concerned about that in slippery conditions if it doesn’t.
I want y’all to get an 01-06 Silverado HD with the 8.1L and test it on the Ike guantlet
That would be entertaining for sure.
Hello, does anyone know why Toyota hasn’t announced the price for the hybrids/pro on their website? Is it in march now that they will announce it and produce?!
Tie onto a 30 footer,tandem axle no aerodynamic airstream and take it out on an interstate with big rigs coming up by you.Then,tell us about the sway and suck.I have a 2021 5.7 and am moving up to either a Ram2500 or Gmc,Chevy 2500.For stability reasons.
I think this truck could safely tow up to 7,000 lb, 26 ft trailer, but I wouldn't push it more than that.
Tundra Capstone - I am the most luxurious truck of the lot....Ram 1500 Big Horn (fully loaded) - Hold my beer. 😹😹😹
Let’s see a 2022 comparison of the highest trim level half ton trucks Toyota Ram Ford Chevy GMC Nissian
can the capstone tow a 11,000 Lbs 37ft trailer? my trailer is a 2022 Grand Design Reflection 312BHTS. can you do a video of the capstone towing something within that capacity or share your thoughts on how it would pull such trailer?
You need a one ton.
I like the Tundra but don't like turbo charged six cylinders and sure don't want a hybrid. Good job on review though.
I feel like it was a massive mistake not to squeeze more mpg out of a hybrid system. Their base engine was doing just fine without the hybrid's extra 'help'. Why not make the mpg the cherry on top instead of just extra muscle.
Great review, Andre. I think the 3.0 duramax GMC Sierra just won out over this for my next truck. I know the hybrid Tundra wasn't intended to be going for fuel economy, but wished it would have. The 3.0 duramax is a similar price, similar towing, yet 30+ mpg per gallon. I think Toyota would generally win out on reliability, but being a new gen and the waste gate problems that have been emerging, that might be a stretch for a few years. It's too bad. I was really looking forward to this new Tundra.
Good choice. The tundra is a disappointment before it even goes on sale
I have the 6.6 Duramax and as much as I love it, the DEF and emissions are a pain. Research really well before getting into it.
I am thinking the same thing. I was waiting for 2 years for this after my Tundra got totalled. Big disappointment with the MPG. I am looking at the 3.0 duramax too.
I own a 2020 pre covid Chevy 3.0 z71. I love it! 37k miles no recalls no issues to this point. Jus recently upgraded wheels to 20x11’s with 305/50’s n Im still getting 30+ mpg’s hwy. I love the torque on the truck so foot gets pretty excited around town n still average about 20+ mpg’s. Only thing that sux is they have stopped production on the 3.0’s for right now. Was thinking to trade in for the refreshed interior but I’m not to sure about vehicles being built no thru covid.
Same boat. Been in the hunt since 2018-19ish. Didn't care for any of the stuff out. Waited patiently for the new Tundra which should have been out long ago but as I was waiting for the GM refreshed interior I had time. Overall this is a disappointing effort. I need the truck for the bed more than anything and Toyota seems to have paid the least attention to the bed of any of the OEMs (haven't considered a Titan as I don't see Nissan firmly planted as a going concern). So GM it will be. Have driven a lot of bug 3 vehicles for work and prefer the GM stuff so far so hopefully they don't disappoint too much. Wish Honda would make a proper body on frame 1/2 ton.
The only good news with my long wait is I have saved enough to buy whatever I want. Kinda like the upcoming AT4X but pretty sure I'd be happier with the standard bed and the diesel. Make it happen GMC. Anyway I hear the refreshed GMs go into production next week so maybe I'll have a truck by the end of the year if I can find a place not gouging the prices here on the west coast.
What are the specific differences in features between the TRD Pro and Capstone?
Hope one day you can show us a 22 crew cab SR ... CHEAPEST they make ...
How do you get tow mirrors? I want tow mirrors on the one I ordered but my dealership won't sell them to me. Does anyone know why?
Yeah, toyota is going to start backing off the mpg claims. We are seeing real world numbers now that everyone on utube has a tundra. Funny how everyone was saying the hybrid was going to improve the mpg until the numbers were released, then it is tuned for power. All sales hype!
The mpg isn't with a tow load apparently.
@@smallbusinessdreams will be interesting to see what the towing numbers are with the hybrid. Since the old tundra gets 11 towing 7k pounds im guessing this one will get 12.
Roman you weren't excited at all with the new Tundra lol
No mention of a generator built in like F150 Hybrid..That would definitely make it a perfect truck for me. Limited 4WD, with 6.5ft bed.
1:02 A major perk of a hybrid truck should be to run in electric mode when pulling a trailer through a campground, garage, etc. Power requirements in those use cases should be modest. Is there any way to defeat the engine automatically kicking on when towing a trailer on the Tundra hybrid or F-150 hybrid?
Don’t put it in tow/haul
Great video. I'm considering trading in my 2015 1794 Tundra on this new Tundra. Your video was very informative.
It would be interesting to compare the outgoing 5.7 liter V8 with a Magneson supercharger to the new hybrid Tundra going up Ike gaunlet towing. The torque rating is nearly the same.
This dude knows his Trucks. He answered questions I didn't even know I had.
I'm trying to get a SR5 4x4 but one can always dream
So... Going to be awfully difficult towing that 10,340 pound trailer with a 1,330 pound payload capacity.
Ion think you understand how those things work
@@aus5405 I understand that tow rating is worthless.
@@robertshunter Lol ,,already posted the same comment ,,trailer and very skinny driver , no cargo !
@@craigroosa9321 Deduct the weight of the necessary hitch and hardware, and they better look like a bean pole! 😂
Why are the side mirror functions in two different places? Not the most intuitive system. But then again, other that that I like this truck a lot
Hey TFL. Please do a drag race between the Hybrid Toyota and the standard truck. I have a suspect that torque figure is largely marketing BS. It's only going to make that torque boost at very low RPM. With the added weight of the battery, these trucks aren't going to be any faster.
Did they not want to strain it too much with 5k? Seems like an overkill to me. Love the look of that new Capstone though.
So we lost the v8 for alot more complexity and about 4 mpg gain?
Limiting the hybrid to the premium models was a preposterously terrible idea.
This truck was so close to being a home run, unfortunately it’s just missing in a few key areas.
You got to admit, that’s a lot of trailer for a single axle Airstream. I wouldn’t want to tow with anything smaller or risk it wagging the dog on the tow vehicle.
And with no redundancy, having one tire blow could result in a wild ride.
Nice truck. No question about it. But it does not dispel my concerns about overall usefulness of all these new technologies, like downsizing, turbocharging and hybrid assist.
11 mpg on rural roads is nothing special. If I put this Airstream behind my TNG Durango, it will be doing same or better. Because with 7k lb plus Imagine at highway speed it gives around 9mpg and off highway is 10 or slightly above.
Lots of complications and added cost is only to satisfy EPA tests and regulations.
LGB!
Will it take a canopy?
So looks like I force max is around 3k extra,
Seems like Toyota designed the Capstone trim to be an even bigger cash grab than the Pro. Dissapointing how bad the value is in selecting the Capstone and Pro trim levels.