An update to my comment. I ended up buying the Audio Technica AT-LPW40WN. Main 2 reasons are the ability to update/change and the MM Pre-amp built in. I was looking to connect the turntable to my Sonos system and this works really well.
this video was exactly what i was looking for! thank you for making vinyl more accessible, I feel super confident in buying my sony TT and starting my vinyl collection!
I got the Sony for my birthday last year and while I'm really enjoying the hobby and keep telling myself that I'll one day upgrade to something bigger and better, at the moment I really don't need to. Super easy to use and sounds great. I'm gonna keep using this thing until it gives me a reason not to.
Hi Erik! I think you shouldn’t “upgrade” either! We’re used to having the latest and greatest and I think it’s cool you’d only purchase something more if it fails you someday.
I have had the Sony turntable for 2 weeks and I am very happy with it. I bought it mainly because it has bluetooth and I can use my headphones or a bluetooth speaker.
He probably doesn't even know the real price, it's a free review unit with usb and all the good stuff. We can only watch this ad and buy the overpriced one with half of the features missing.
Sony always delivers very stylish designed products. This is another one of them.The tonearm of the Sony TT is absolutely stunning. Never seen such stylish tonearm. I think all Sony TT must have such. And interesting on that particular model it has automatic start and stop, but on the higher model PS HX500 its all manual. Actually I went with the PS HX500, cause of the Hi Res audio and better overall look and ability to rip vinyls in DSD. It would be great if Sony incorporated the tonearm of this mdoel into ps HX500 and made it fully automatic, then it would be a top seller for sure.
Loved your review. The fact that its cheap, automatic and bluetooth, even though price is not a factor for me, I still wanna get the LP60. Its smaller (small apartment) and a great starting point. I was considering getting a Technica MK70 or even the 1500c... but I may wait for another model down the line.. and If I upgrade, I can always keep my LP60 as a portable.
I've owned my Sony for close to two years. I'm happy with it. So easy to use and changing the stylus is so easy (only had to change it once and I play records ALOT)
Hey, did you use the ATN3600L? I’m so upset I think I might have messed up my stylus (I’ve barely owned the player for a year) and I keep seeing this as a recommendation replacement. It’s my first turntable and I am so lost. Thanks!
@@Steph-qh6fg Yes. That's the stylus I used. I replaced it a year ago and it's still going strong. I bought a backup just in case though. hehe. Best Buy sells them for 25 bucks.
Video was great. I personally went with the Sony because I heard a lot of negative things about the lp60’s quality control on Reddit and reviews on other websites.
Just discovered Vinyl, thought it was only for old music until I saw vinyl for Eminem, K Dot, J Cole and other rappers and my brain lit up. I've never bought physical items from my favorite rap artists and didn't feel like getting CDs as I grew up with those and they feel whatever and never felt motivated to get some random cd player when I could stream so I've been streaming my whole life. But I ran into vinyl somehow looking up stuff to buy from my favorite artist since I realized I've never bought anything from them to have as memorabilia at least. Vinyl I feel is the coolest way to connect with them and get to own a physical copy that looks awesome. Also vinyl just looks like a unique connection to music compared to throwing CDs into a player. Going to get the Sony as my first turntable as I need bluetooth living with family. Going to rock some nice speakers when I'm alone but with family around I can't be blasting loud records so I need to at least listen to it over bluetooth and I'm a cable freak so I can't stand cables so bluetooth speakers will be my go to for speakers. This comparison and the video solely on the Sony has sold me on the Sony. Looks sleek and easy to operate. Also ordered 3 vinyl to arrive tomorrow can't wait to jam to some tunes via vinyl. I feel this will be an addicting hobby lol.
As someone who has used higher end turntables I owned the LP 120 and have listened to and played with some 2-3k turntables I can assure you that 90% of people aren't going to notice the difference. When you get to the higher end turntables you also need great speakers and a great pre-amp or receiver to really get the benefit out of them and even then the difference isn't that large. Even though I own a higher end turn table I still use an old Kenwood automatic turntable that was my grandpa's and was made in the 1970s it is very similar to these just older and heavier. I may be able to tweak and play with the LP120 and get a slight edge out of it but i much prefer being able to just pop on a record and hit play while I'm working around the apartment.
Great video, really high production value. I opted for the Sony as my first turntable. I’ll use it Bluetooth mainly as I have a soundbar and surround speakers, but will also pair it with some Edifier active bookshelf speakers
I don't really see hard wired rca cables as a problem. If I need them to be longer I can always just plug them into a double female ended connector and then add whatever length RCA cables I want from there. If they ever fail just open up the cabinet, unsolder them and solder new ones in. Easy Peasy.
Ability to change stylus and cables were important for me. Also the price difference meant I could buy several more records or a phono pre-amp with the money saved buying the AT. Also my AT has a usb port to transfer the music to computer.
The LP60X cannot be upgraded to a different cartridge. You can find upgraded stylus variations, though. They would fit the Sony as well, they have the same cartridge body.
@@E_Rico Because the tonearm is physically molded to accept only that cartridge, and all of the other parameters (tracking force, alignment, anti-skate, etc) are set with that in mind and aren't really adjustable.
Hey! I just posted a video about some of the best starting speakers for vinyl records! Feel free to check it out on my channel! Also, one correction for the video content: I apologize for the incorrect information. The cartridge on the LP60X cannot be changed, but you CAN replace the stylus needle.
If you have an old receiver or amp with a phono-input, then with any of the plastic record spinners, the cartridge is what determines sound. MOST of them come with the same exact cartridge, the Audio Technica AT3600 (now the world's VW Beetle of cartridges, it is EVERYWHERE), so no difference between the Sony and the Audio Technica players. The other big factor is the turntable's built in phono-preamp, if you don't have an old amp or receiver. The Audio Technica and the Sony are about equal there. USB output is NOT needed to digitise your records. Just plug the audio cable into your computer's or smart phone's or digital recorder's audio line input, and then use the software of choice. Audacity is a very neat and free software for the purpose, and has been proven and developed for decades now!
I believe your AT TT is running slightly faster than the Sony. The pitch of the music of the Sony seems more correct. You should check the speed of your AT turntable.
They seem to play at a different pitch though, the sony is slower and the LP60 is faster. Also you cant upgrade to any stylus on the AT, just a few since the whole cart body is fixed to the tonearm. Switching carts is also essential for a proper turntable in my book.
You’re right, there is a way to adjust that pitch, I measured the lp at 34 and the sony at 33.3. I fixed it after recording this video (and couldn’t include more complex) but the analysis still stands. And yes, you can only replace the stylus but that’s still more options that the Sony. I wish the sony made it easier to replace.
@@nloop : It's perfectly easy to replace the stylus on the Sony; it's the same AT3600L cartridge as used in the LP60X/BT, and uses the exact same stylus. Sony only tell you not to use a replacement (in the manual - page 18) from another company because they want you to buy their more expensive part!!
precisely. the OE Sony stylus is black, but otherwise identical to the Audio-Technica. Both 'tables use the AT3600 cartridge. In fact, the mechanisms of both turntables are actually the same,, and both are manufactured by Hanpin.
I love how you used Muse as your "rock" comparison for the two turntables. Muse is fantastic and The 2nd Law is their most underrated album in my opinion. My 4th favorite after Origin of Symmetry, Absolution, and Black Holes and Revelations.
2nd Law is SOOO good, Supremacy is such an amazing song with so many layers of instrumentation and vocals. It was a perfect album to test out for this!
I'm a bit confused as it seems like you said that the AT doesn't allow for converting records to digital audio files, when it appears that model does. I'm referring to the Audio-Technica AT-LP60XBT. Could it be that you're referring to the AT-LP60X which is stated in the title of your vid, or are you actually reviewing the AT-LP60XBT as shown at the 7:00 mark in the "results" section of your video? Am I missing something?
Thanks for the review! Very helpful and detailed. I think I will choose Sony. I have an LG soundbar with a bluetooth Do you think it will pair with the turntable?
They both have the same inside as they are made in the same factory in China, this also includes the Panasonic version same stylus, so really it's all cosmetic.
Yeah, they’re all manufactured by an OEN called Hanpin. The preamp on the Sony is slightly different, but other than that, yes they are the same, and also the exact same as the old lx300usb and LP60 players, which even had identical tone arms. That exact design was also used by Aiwa back in the 90s, so it’s certainly tried and tested!!
Sure that's how he set it up here. He connected the Audio Technica BT turntable via its phono preamp to an external amp which is connected to the passive speakers.
i think lp60x packs more at a lower price tag. However if it was me I would choose the Sony over lp60x, because I love Sony so that's the brand I want to use my money on.
Is it me or Sony was better in the short sound test?! I heard more details (e.g. congos) and midrange focus in Sony. AT was more compressed and muffled.
The Sony PS-LX310BT audio produced is lacking in detail, can’t reach the highs and lows. Amp used is Cambridge Audio AM10. Is this to be expected of the default stylus or do I need the stylus to run in?
Im sorry but you talked as if the LP120X has a replaceable cartridge but it does NOT - only the stylus is replaceable and AT only offers ONE replacement stylus and its the same conical stylus thats already on it. However pfanstheil and LPGear do make an Elliptical stylus upgrade for it, but the LPGEAR stylus costs almost half as much as the whole turntable the Pfansteil is around $26. I like the LP60X as a starter table but I personally will not buy any turntable without a counterweight or replaceable cartridge as it offers no upgrade path whatsoever, its a way to make you want another table down the road.
Thanks for your great channel. I have question please. Now this comes with built in phono amp, does my future reciver need built in phono amp or not? Kind regards
Interesting, I can hear a difference in pitch in your samples. Seems that the speed is slightly different, or you had to manipulate that for copyright purposes?
Many of these do, indeed, come out of the box at an imperfect pitch. There are little adjustment holes on the bottom labeled 33 and 45. They fit flat head jeweler type screwdrivers. So it’s certainly fixable.
i have the sony PS-LX310BT and i noticed that the rpm is a little fast. On 33, it goes 34.56 and on 45 it reads 47.34. Does anyone know how to adjust it or slow it down? Please let me know.
Yes. There's a video on how to do this, but basically you can just insert a small screwdiver into the holes at the bottom of the TT. ONe is marked 33, the other is marked 45. Turn the screwdriver slightly to the left to slow it down. Here's the video where they demonstrate it. Pro-tip, make sure you have your stylus set to the UP position so it doesn't swing around wildly while fiddling with the TT. ruclips.net/video/XL-LRQh2Hf8/видео.html&ab_channel=Ryanbrio
Can I use an Audio Technica (or any other brand) stylus to replace the original stylus on my Sony PS-LX310BT turntable? After a lot of playing records over the last 2 years, I think the stylus might need to be replaced but I’m having trouble sourcing a genuine Sony replacement stylus.
Yes, the Sony LX310BT uses an Audio Technica AT3600L cartridge fixed in place; just like the AT-LP60X turntable... Even though the Sony stylus (needle) has a black plastic surround, it's just a Sony custom version of the ATN3600 stylus; the replacement item will clip in exactly where the 'Sony' black plastic one does....It's the same thing. 😃
Why not the ATLP60XBT? I have the ATLP60BT in red, which seems to operate just fine and the needle drop isn't too fast. That being said, I'm still getting ready to buy a Pioneer DJ PLX-500 even though I do prefer an automatic turntable. But I'll still have my vintage BSR MA65 automatic changer for when I just want to listen to a stack of albums uninterrupted. It's an earlier BSR made for The Fisher 125 and has a metal plinth, metal eccentric wheel and metal platter and uses a Pickering V-15 MM cartridge. Funny thing is, even though my AT turntable is the BT model, I've never used that feature. I've always had it wired up to a receiver/amp (currently an Onkyo TX-8220) and using Fluance SX6W's on the A speakers with the B speaker terminals wired to the high gain audio inputs of a 10" Polk Audio powered sub.
Heres my question, i have the audiotech one already, i was looking at the sony one cause people said the volume output is louder. Aka when i listen to my tv thru my yamaha system, volume 40 is pretty loud, but when i put a record on my audiotech, i need it to be somewhere between vol 60-70 just to be room volume. Does the sony fix this issue by making the music louder so i dont have to crank my receiver up so loud
Hey there! Nice video. Just one quick question... Is it possible to pair this turntable to a dual sync or more the one bluetooth speaker? Lets say a pair of Sonos Roam 2 or Apple Home Pods. Thanks!!
I'm looking for a turntable for my wife, we are both beginners, but she really wants to be able to listen on Bluetooth headphones. Can these both do that? and pair with Bluetooth speakers? If so, which one would you recommend?
Good review, BUT the Sony has the ability not just to record via USB-B but just listen it too! the blueooth quality is good and for line and phono too, but listening with good monitors via USB is real a change in sound....I recommended 100%
@@shawngiese ohhh I didn't know that......for the budget and versatility, I recommend Sony, although this version doesn't have anti-skating and manual switch RPM.....
Do I need a system or anything else like an additional amp to connect it via Bluetooth or just unpack it and let’s go? If I understand correctly I don’t need anything else right?:) Thanks for the comparison !
The Sony is definitely the better turntable, it just has a bit better build quality and beyond that in terms of sound quality it comes across as more exciting and more fun to listen to, and it also makes your records something that you want to listen to
Record players don’t damage records. It’s the handing of records and work out or damaged styluses. In saying that, I did read this “Just make sure the stylus tracking force is set to the cartridge manufacturer's recommendation. A force setting that's too high or too low can accelerate record wear and noise.” Is this possible on either of these turntables?
The tracking force is all preset by the manufacturer, so it’s made to be correct. Only higher end turntables that ask the user to adjust it manually are (theoretically) at risk for damage.
Assistance ! I bought the ps-lx310bt and have connected it to my Bluetooth speaker. But raising the volume on my Bluetooth device does nothing, is the device defective or just lacks support ?
Could you make a video on how to replace the stylus on the Audio Technica one? For the love of everything I can't figure it out... Also, there seems to be no manual how to do that on the web. Just for the old LP60. Pleaaaaaaaase help me...
Almost any Bluetooth speaker will do! Some good brands include JBL, Sony, Edifier. I can work on a video this year about some good options in various budget ranges if that’s something people would be interested in!
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These are the 2 turntables i had narrowed down and really appreciate the comparison. Going with the Sony, mainly for the cleaner look. Thanks!
Glad it helped!
An update to my comment. I ended up buying the Audio Technica AT-LPW40WN. Main 2 reasons are the ability to update/change and the MM Pre-amp built in. I was looking to connect the turntable to my Sonos system and this works really well.
@@amars4555 how did you connect it to your sonos?
@@amars4555 curious about this as well!
this video was exactly what i was looking for! thank you for making vinyl more accessible, I feel super confident in buying my sony TT and starting my vinyl collection!
I'm glad it was helpful! Hope you enjoy your Sony TT!
I got the Sony for my birthday last year and while I'm really enjoying the hobby and keep telling myself that I'll one day upgrade to something bigger and better, at the moment I really don't need to. Super easy to use and sounds great. I'm gonna keep using this thing until it gives me a reason not to.
Hi Erik! I think you shouldn’t “upgrade” either! We’re used to having the latest and greatest and I think it’s cool you’d only purchase something more if it fails you someday.
I have had the Sony turntable for 2 weeks and I am very happy with it. I bought it mainly because it has bluetooth and I can use my headphones or a bluetooth speaker.
It’s awesome!
I love how they say "budget turntables" when either one will sting like a mutha when I purchase it.
😄🐝🐝🐝
He probably doesn't even know the real price, it's a free review unit with usb and all the good stuff. We can only watch this ad and buy the overpriced one with half of the features missing.
I’m playing w/ a $3000+ turntable…
So $200 is defo budget😉
@@rvcasa who tf asked u?
@@vhateg
Welcome to social media boy🙄
Sony always delivers very stylish designed products. This is another one of them.The tonearm of the Sony TT is absolutely stunning. Never seen such stylish tonearm. I think all Sony TT must have such. And interesting on that particular model it has automatic start and stop, but on the higher model PS HX500 its all manual. Actually I went with the PS HX500, cause of the Hi Res audio and better overall look and ability to rip vinyls in DSD. It would be great if Sony incorporated the tonearm of this mdoel into ps HX500 and made it fully automatic, then it would be a top seller for sure.
Loved your review. The fact that its cheap, automatic and bluetooth, even though price is not a factor for me, I still wanna get the LP60. Its smaller (small apartment) and a great starting point. I was considering getting a Technica MK70 or even the 1500c... but I may wait for another model down the line.. and If I upgrade, I can always keep my LP60 as a portable.
I've owned my Sony for close to two years. I'm happy with it. So easy to use and changing the stylus is so easy (only had to change it once and I play records ALOT)
Does the sony one only work with bluetooth speakers? Or does wired ones work too
Hey, did you use the ATN3600L? I’m so upset I think I might have messed up my stylus (I’ve barely owned the player for a year) and I keep seeing this as a recommendation replacement. It’s my first turntable and I am so lost. Thanks!
@@Steph-qh6fg Yes. That's the stylus I used. I replaced it a year ago and it's still going strong. I bought a backup just in case though. hehe. Best Buy sells them for 25 bucks.
@@thatdudeuhate6649 Awesome! Thank you so much! :)
@@wetsocks5055 yes you can use speakers
Video was great. I personally went with the Sony because I heard a lot of negative things about the lp60’s quality control on Reddit and reviews on other websites.
How’s it holding up? I’m considering it
I really like this guy hes my go to when it comes to these kinda things. He just describes things really well and doesn't bore me.
Just discovered Vinyl, thought it was only for old music until I saw vinyl for Eminem, K Dot, J Cole and other rappers and my brain lit up. I've never bought physical items from my favorite rap artists and didn't feel like getting CDs as I grew up with those and they feel whatever and never felt motivated to get some random cd player when I could stream so I've been streaming my whole life. But I ran into vinyl somehow looking up stuff to buy from my favorite artist since I realized I've never bought anything from them to have as memorabilia at least. Vinyl I feel is the coolest way to connect with them and get to own a physical copy that looks awesome. Also vinyl just looks like a unique connection to music compared to throwing CDs into a player.
Going to get the Sony as my first turntable as I need bluetooth living with family. Going to rock some nice speakers when I'm alone but with family around I can't be blasting loud records so I need to at least listen to it over bluetooth and I'm a cable freak so I can't stand cables so bluetooth speakers will be my go to for speakers. This comparison and the video solely on the Sony has sold me on the Sony. Looks sleek and easy to operate. Also ordered 3 vinyl to arrive tomorrow can't wait to jam to some tunes via vinyl. I feel this will be an addicting hobby lol.
As someone who has used higher end turntables I owned the LP 120 and have listened to and played with some 2-3k turntables I can assure you that 90% of people aren't going to notice the difference. When you get to the higher end turntables you also need great speakers and a great pre-amp or receiver to really get the benefit out of them and even then the difference isn't that large. Even though I own a higher end turn table I still use an old Kenwood automatic turntable that was my grandpa's and was made in the 1970s it is very similar to these just older and heavier. I may be able to tweak and play with the LP120 and get a slight edge out of it but i much prefer being able to just pop on a record and hit play while I'm working around the apartment.
Great video, really high production value. I opted for the Sony as my first turntable. I’ll use it Bluetooth mainly as I have a soundbar and surround speakers, but will also pair it with some Edifier active bookshelf speakers
bluetooth kills the sound qualiy man
I don't really see hard wired rca cables as a problem. If I need them to be longer I can always just plug them into a double female ended connector and then add whatever length RCA cables I want from there. If they ever fail just open up the cabinet, unsolder them and solder new ones in. Easy Peasy.
Ability to change stylus and cables were important for me. Also the price difference meant I could buy several more records or a phono pre-amp with the money saved buying the AT. Also my AT has a usb port to transfer the music to computer.
with Sony you can change the stylus and it has a USB port
The LP60X cannot be upgraded to a different cartridge. You can find upgraded stylus variations, though. They would fit the Sony as well, they have the same cartridge body.
Why can you not upgrade? Is it not removable or is there some chip inside that would not read a different type of cartridge?
@@E_Rico Because the tonearm is physically molded to accept only that cartridge, and all of the other parameters (tracking force, alignment, anti-skate, etc) are set with that in mind and aren't really adjustable.
@@jeremy_h thanks!
@@E_Rico Happy to help! You can do a lot worse than one of these tables, they sound great.
That comment that the cartridge cannot be upgraded should be pinned, to crret that awful misinformation in the video.
Hey! I just posted a video about some of the best starting speakers for vinyl records! Feel free to check it out on my channel!
Also, one correction for the video content: I apologize for the incorrect information. The cartridge on the LP60X cannot be changed, but you CAN replace the stylus needle.
Thanks for the advice. Keep up with this editing and reviewing skills!
Thank you!
I bought the LP60XUSB last week, a great starter turntable. I would certainly recommend one to anyone.
I’m getting the Sony one for Christmas and I’m very excited!
You’re going to be very happy with it!
Good stuff and thank you! I just ordered the AT last night. Clear and concise you are. Thanks again! ~ :)
If you have an old receiver or amp with a phono-input, then with any of the plastic record spinners, the cartridge is what determines sound. MOST of them come with the same exact cartridge, the Audio Technica AT3600 (now the world's VW Beetle of cartridges, it is EVERYWHERE), so no difference between the Sony and the Audio Technica players.
The other big factor is the turntable's built in phono-preamp, if you don't have an old amp or receiver. The Audio Technica and the Sony are about equal there.
USB output is NOT needed to digitise your records. Just plug the audio cable into your computer's or smart phone's or digital recorder's audio line input, and then use the software of choice.
Audacity is a very neat and free software for the purpose, and has been proven and developed for decades now!
This helped me out alot! I was double thinking that usb and the sony is bigger too
When i saw the Cowboy Bebop and Goodbye to a World vinyls i had to drop a like and a subscription, awesome video btw :)
I believe your AT TT is running slightly faster than the Sony. The pitch of the music of the Sony seems more correct.
You should check the speed of your AT turntable.
They seem to play at a different pitch though, the sony is slower and the LP60 is faster.
Also you cant upgrade to any stylus on the AT, just a few since the whole cart body is fixed to the tonearm. Switching carts is also essential for a proper turntable in my book.
You’re right, there is a way to adjust that pitch, I measured the lp at 34 and the sony at 33.3. I fixed it after recording this video (and couldn’t include more complex) but the analysis still stands. And yes, you can only replace the stylus but that’s still more options that the Sony. I wish the sony made it easier to replace.
@@nloop I changed my Sony stylus with a AT one after a week. It sounded much better than the Sony one.
@@nloop : It's perfectly easy to replace the stylus on the Sony; it's the same AT3600L cartridge as used in the LP60X/BT, and uses the exact same stylus. Sony only tell you not to use a replacement (in the manual - page 18) from another company because they want you to buy their more expensive part!!
@@hoffone it’s exactly same stylus on both
precisely. the OE Sony stylus is black, but otherwise identical to the Audio-Technica. Both 'tables use the AT3600 cartridge. In fact, the mechanisms of both turntables are actually the same,, and both are manufactured by Hanpin.
I love how you used Muse as your "rock" comparison for the two turntables. Muse is fantastic and The 2nd Law is their most underrated album in my opinion. My 4th favorite after Origin of Symmetry, Absolution, and Black Holes and Revelations.
2nd Law is SOOO good, Supremacy is such an amazing song with so many layers of instrumentation and vocals. It was a perfect album to test out for this!
Straight and to the point. I appreciate these videos and people like you. Great video. I’ve made up my mind. I’m going with the Sony.
Apparently Sony’s current model has detached RCA cables and uses the same Stylus as AT !
On the AT-LP60x You can replace the needle not the Cartridge
Top quality video mate good work
Thank you for this video! I'm just deciding whether to buy the Sony PS-LX310BT or the Audio-Technica AT-LP60XBT.
I'm a bit confused as it seems like you said that the AT doesn't allow for converting records to digital audio files, when it appears that model does. I'm referring to the Audio-Technica AT-LP60XBT. Could it be that you're referring to the AT-LP60X which is stated in the title of your vid, or are you actually reviewing the AT-LP60XBT as shown at the 7:00 mark in the "results" section of your video? Am I missing something?
Thanks for the review! Very helpful and detailed. I think I will choose Sony.
I have an LG soundbar with a bluetooth
Do you think it will pair with the turntable?
Top tier video!!!! Also Noah bestie please consider do a video on your fav speakers and headphones 😗
I got the audio Technica. Since Sony is more expensive, and also have delivery issues. And the at was a lot more cheaper
I got the audio t... I'm just getting started with collecting vinyl.. should I have gotten the Sony one instead?
It has a slightly better pre amp😉
Great video! How come you don't have at least couple thousands of subs is beyond me 😅 Keep it up!
They both have the same inside as they are made in the same factory in China, this also includes the Panasonic version same stylus, so really it's all cosmetic.
…and Pioneer!
@@rvcasa ...yes that one too, I forgot.
Yeah, they’re all manufactured by an OEN called Hanpin. The preamp on the Sony is slightly different, but other than that, yes they are the same, and also the exact same as the old lx300usb and LP60 players, which even had identical tone arms. That exact design was also used by Aiwa back in the 90s, so it’s certainly tried and tested!!
probably a stupid question but does anyone know if you can use the Bluetooth models with an analog connection to speakers...
Sure that's how he set it up here. He connected the Audio Technica BT turntable via its phono preamp to an external amp which is connected to the passive speakers.
Really nice video! Thank you so much!
i think lp60x packs more at a lower price tag. However if it was me I would choose the Sony over lp60x, because I love Sony so that's the brand I want to use my money on.
Dont you need a phono pre amp to connect it to the reiceiver?
Was just looking at the technica, I think it’s for me.
Is it me or Sony was better in the short sound test?! I heard more details (e.g. congos) and midrange focus in Sony. AT was more compressed and muffled.
The Sony PS-LX310BT audio produced is lacking in detail, can’t reach the highs and lows. Amp used is Cambridge Audio AM10. Is this to be expected of the default stylus or do I need the stylus to run in?
You can’t change the cartridge on the AT, just the needle itself.
Thank you for pointing this out. I’ve updated the description to note this error.
Right now I don't know what to do 😅 Used Technics SL-BD3 or new Audio Technica AT-LP60X 😓
Technics, but depends if it's in good condition 'cause Is a 80's TT. I got one and recommend.
Im sorry but you talked as if the LP120X has a replaceable cartridge but it does NOT - only the stylus is replaceable and AT only offers ONE replacement stylus and its the same conical stylus thats already on it. However pfanstheil and LPGear do make an Elliptical stylus upgrade for it, but the LPGEAR stylus costs almost half as much as the whole turntable the Pfansteil is around $26. I like the LP60X as a starter table but I personally will not buy any turntable without a counterweight or replaceable cartridge as it offers no upgrade path whatsoever, its a way to make you want another table down the road.
LP120X has replaceable cartridge, LP60X does not,,,,,,,
Thank you!!! Just got my Sony - keep up the good work !!!
Thanks for your great channel.
I have question please. Now this comes with built in phono amp, does my future reciver need built in phono amp or not?
Kind regards
Think I'm going with the Sony
Would you recommend getting Sony PS-LX310 or Teac TN 180 BT?
I’ve never tried the Teac, but I’ve loved the Sony for the last 2 years of owning and feel no reason to change - even after trying the ATLP
How does the Sony compare with the Fluance rt81 in the same price bracket?
Interesting, I can hear a difference in pitch in your samples. Seems that the speed is slightly different, or you had to manipulate that for copyright purposes?
Many of these do, indeed, come out of the box at an imperfect pitch. There are little adjustment holes on the bottom labeled 33 and 45. They fit flat head jeweler type screwdrivers. So it’s certainly fixable.
Instant sub for your rating of R.A.M, thanks for the polished and super informative video
nice video!!
How do you change the needle in the sony turntable tho?
The same way you do on the AT! (w/ a ATN3600L stylus)
i have the sony PS-LX310BT and i noticed that the rpm is a little fast. On 33, it goes 34.56 and on 45 it reads 47.34. Does anyone know how to adjust it or slow it down? Please let me know.
Yes. There's a video on how to do this, but basically you can just insert a small screwdiver into the holes at the bottom of the TT. ONe is marked 33, the other is marked 45. Turn the screwdriver slightly to the left to slow it down. Here's the video where they demonstrate it. Pro-tip, make sure you have your stylus set to the UP position so it doesn't swing around wildly while fiddling with the TT.
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@@nloop thanks. i appreciate it.
Can I use an Audio Technica (or any other brand) stylus to replace the original stylus on my Sony PS-LX310BT turntable? After a lot of playing records over the last 2 years, I think the stylus might need to be replaced but I’m having trouble sourcing a genuine Sony replacement stylus.
Yes, the Sony LX310BT uses an Audio Technica AT3600L cartridge fixed in place; just like the AT-LP60X turntable... Even though the Sony stylus (needle) has a black plastic surround, it's just a Sony custom version of the ATN3600 stylus; the replacement item will clip in exactly where the 'Sony' black plastic one does....It's the same thing. 😃
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An excellent review. Thanks
Fantastic! Thank you!!
So my receiver has phono rca inputs, am i not supposed to use that on the back of the turntable rather than choosing the Line setting?
Why not the ATLP60XBT? I have the ATLP60BT in red, which seems to operate just fine and the needle drop isn't too fast. That being said, I'm still getting ready to buy a Pioneer DJ PLX-500 even though I do prefer an automatic turntable. But I'll still have my vintage BSR MA65 automatic changer for when I just want to listen to a stack of albums uninterrupted. It's an earlier BSR made for The Fisher 125 and has a metal plinth, metal eccentric wheel and metal platter and uses a Pickering V-15 MM cartridge. Funny thing is, even though my AT turntable is the BT model, I've never used that feature. I've always had it wired up to a receiver/amp (currently an Onkyo TX-8220) and using Fluance SX6W's on the A speakers with the B speaker terminals wired to the high gain audio inputs of a 10" Polk Audio powered sub.
Heres my question, i have the audiotech one already, i was looking at the sony one cause people said the volume output is louder. Aka when i listen to my tv thru my yamaha system, volume 40 is pretty loud, but when i put a record on my audiotech, i need it to be somewhere between vol 60-70 just to be room volume. Does the sony fix this issue by making the music louder so i dont have to crank my receiver up so loud
Hey there! Nice video. Just one quick question... Is it possible to pair this turntable to a dual sync or more the one bluetooth speaker? Lets say a pair of Sonos Roam 2 or Apple Home Pods. Thanks!!
thx im still debating the sont model and im new to this so does look good me.
In your review you indicated you could connect the Sony to your smsl ad18 via Bluetooth. I’m assuming that’s not the case ?
I'd be curious to see a Fluance TB added to this comparison
I’m actively interested right now in trying out the Fluance RT 81 or 82. It’s definitely a video I plan to make in the new year
I’ve heard the Sony wont work with my Bose soundtouch 10 speakers. Something to do with the firmware in the Bose. Has this been resolved
what we should do if we broke the sony stylus if it is unreplaceable?
Thank you for this review! Going with the Sony. Subscribed!
I'm looking for a turntable for my wife, we are both beginners, but she really wants to be able to listen on Bluetooth headphones. Can these both do that? and pair with Bluetooth speakers? If so, which one would you recommend?
So how do you change cartridge+stylus on Sony?
Hi very helpful have you a video on how to change the styles thanks
Good review, BUT the Sony has the ability not just to record via USB-B but just listen it too! the blueooth quality is good and for line and phono too, but listening with good monitors via USB is real a change in sound....I recommended 100%
Unfortunately not all Sony PS-LX310BT have USB. You won't know until you open the box.
@@shawngiese ohhh I didn't know that......for the budget and versatility, I recommend Sony, although this version doesn't have anti-skating and manual switch RPM.....
@@felmac83 for manual RPM adjustment:
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Which bluetooth player is best at connecting to headphones ?
You didn’t end up talking about the slip mat. What do you recommend?
I’m going to make a video soon covering this, but I ultimately recommend a rubber slip mat
@@nloop thank you for your replies.
Have you tried an acrylic slip mat with the Sony one? I want to get the Sony one but want a white slipmat for aesthetics :) thanks
Do I need a system or anything else like an additional amp to connect it via Bluetooth or just unpack it and let’s go?
If I understand correctly I don’t need anything else right?:)
Thanks for the comparison !
You just need Bluetooth speakers/headphones
Great video, thanks bud
Super helpful really good vid I got the Sony and I really enjoy vinyl
The Sony is definitely the better turntable, it just has a bit better build quality and beyond that in terms of sound quality it comes across as more exciting and more fun to listen to, and it also makes your records something that you want to listen to
So how do you replacet he Sony Stylus?
do you know how much is the tracking force on each turntable?
They both use the Audio Technica AT3600L cartridge/stylus and it's rated between 2.5-3.5 grams.
does it affect the pitch? I don't know the song but I heard two different pitches from that section you recorded.
True. I heard it too.
Does it make sense to buy a Sony PS-LX310BT if the AT LP120X costs the same money (let's say, BT feature is not important)?
Thnx!!
is the technica easy to use for beginners
Yes, both are dead simple to setup and use!
Does the Sony one damage the records?
Nope!
Record players don’t damage records. It’s the handing of records and work out or damaged styluses.
In saying that, I did read this “Just make sure the stylus tracking force is set to the cartridge manufacturer's recommendation. A force setting that's too high or too low can accelerate record wear and noise.” Is this possible on either of these turntables?
The tracking force is all preset by the manufacturer, so it’s made to be correct. Only higher end turntables that ask the user to adjust it manually are (theoretically) at risk for damage.
thanks man
what is the difference between the audio technica model AT-LP60X vs AT-LP60XBT?
The one with "BT" has black teeth! ... Just kidding, it has Bluetooth output
Assistance ! I bought the ps-lx310bt and have connected it to my Bluetooth speaker. But raising the volume on my Bluetooth device does nothing, is the device defective or just lacks support ?
Read the manual, it tells you how to adjust the volume (at the back)
Could you make a video on how to replace the stylus on the Audio Technica one? For the love of everything I can't figure it out... Also, there seems to be no manual how to do that on the web. Just for the old LP60. Pleaaaaaaaase help me...
can someone recommend some speakers for the Audio Technica one? Thanks In Advance!
Do you have a recommendation for Bluetooth speakers with the audio-technica?
Almost any Bluetooth speaker will do! Some good brands include JBL, Sony, Edifier. I can work on a video this year about some good options in various budget ranges if that’s something people would be interested in!
@@nloop I would def be interested in that!
Do you know where/how you would go about getting a replacement needle for Sony?
Most likely through the manufacturer. There should be resources on Sony’s support website
eBay: ATN3600L stylus
hi. do you know if the sony's stylus is diamond?
can the soony stylus be replaced with a same one? (i don't mean upgrade, just replacement)
I believe the Sony can be replaced through the manufacturer directly, or a repair shop may be able to do it.
ATN3600L for both TT
Is the mentioned custom part (I mean the cartrige) available really at sony shops? I would by sony, but this is a really crucial point for me...
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not sure the at has an amp?? Thx
The Sony litteraly uses the same needle it’s just painted black lol 😂