It was one scream. That’s all it took. The thing is if this happened today, he’d immediately be the front runner for having such passion and enthusiasm Edit: well Kamala Harris and Tim Walz tried this strategy and it didn’t work as they lost in a landslide. I was wrong
Now you can mock the disabled, have racial insensitivity, talk of grabbing women, love-whoo Putin, and incite a riot......You may the the White House again.....We are doomed!!!!
@@Talisguy buddy I went to an extremely liberal arts university. I even started to unknowingly entertain some of the progressive ideologies. Ive cared not for politics for the entirety of my life and was actually on the Dems side during the first impeachment trial. I believed wholeheartedly that such high figures of authority would never make such accusations without KNOWING they had concrete evidence to support the Russia collusion allegations. But when that entire trial slowly unraveled and showed me the truth of the matter, thats when my interest was piqued and i began closely following his accomplishments and objectives as president. And objectively he had some of the most sound fiscal policies offered up by any politician since... honestly from what i hear from Gen x and what Ive read.. Bill Clinton.
He realized they crowd cheered every time he listed a state, so he just kept doing it, then he did it over. That's more like watching a monkey do a lab test then do it again because the result was positive. It wasn't him being "genuine", it was him working the crowd. I'm shocked that people can't recognize this from the clip. The "speech" is mainly him listing off states so he doesn't have to keep talking, kind of a cheap move but I guess some people just love to be manipulated.
That was my thought at the time. Dean had energy and knew how to rile up the base. Kerry never came close to that and got the nomination for being "safe." Didn't work out too well, did it?
zecraw I agree, Dean had the best shot at ousting Bush in 2004. I am not in anyway anti-media but it was a shame that the media manipulated it's coverage of this speech to make Dean seem like a mad man. He had an injustice done to him there
I'm completely outside of American politics and the ideals within- but I'm shocked that a man's career was ruined for a scream and a hoarse voice. That says volumes- absolute volumes- about the American political psyche.
It's been around for a long time. They say that one reason why John F. Kennedy won the election in 1960 is because when they appeared on TV together for the first ever televised Presidential debates, Richard Nixon looked ill while Kennedy looked strong and vibrant. (Richard Nixon WAS ill at that time. He had the flu.) It's probably also one reason that it wasn't widely known at the time of his presidency that Franklin Delano Roosevelt was in a wheelchair. It's nothing new.
Hallie Harker also, Nixon’s PR team didn’t know how to cosmetically prep Nixon the way most candidates today are prepped before going on TV every time. Hell, even before going on stage: stage make-up, for example. They didn’t understand that TV magnifies everything and images are lasting. So Nixon just looked super old and out of date next to a young, handsome, vibrant and smooth skinned JFK. Nixon actually went on TV with zero make-up. Ronald Reagan was probably the first President to really understand how everything on TV matters and that presentation goes a long way. His acting background went a long way. Knowing something and SEEING something are two completely different things in America
@@youtubecommenter37 I didn't help that he was ill during that debate, either. He had the flu or something like it. If you're not feeling well, I don't know that cosmetics are going to mask that.
Nah, taking money from wall street, big pharma, insurance companies, oil companies, military industrial complex, etc. and then doing their bidding instead of representing the people is what is wrong with politics
It was already over for him. He was expected to win Iowa, and he came in third. This speech was just him trying to downplay the results and re-hype his supporters.
@@TheJman2600 This isn't true. He was in the lead all the way up until Iowa, and he only lost Iowa 38% to 18%. Hardly out of the race. I don't know if you lived through this, but I did, and it was shocking how his campaign just basically ended after being the favorite the entire time. The scream, and more realistically, the negative news coverage, led to him losing a few more primaries before he finally dropped out, but it killed any recovery he could have had after a poor showing in the first state.
@@joedunphy5064 Agreed. I was kind of bummed the American public didn't give him a chance after that. He had some really good stuff on deck I really liked.
@@vectorhold6489 He was also the first politician that embraced smaller contributions and online footprint that Obama later harnessed for his ascendence.
A lot of wise people believe that individuals need to earn a voice, only because there’s a lot of power in it. But at the same time it’s like, we don’t want to just silence people... it’s always complicated haha. Two opposites and we’re trying to find the middle
Even at the time, I didn't understand what was so bad about this. A dude got excited and passionate, let out a harmless 'yell' no different than millions do every week watching a sports game, and yet somehow he was deemed "unhinged" and "inappopriate for office"? What a load of shit.
Democrats have a standard for decor, professionalism, and manor. Had he been running as a Republican, I've no doubt he would have been elected President.
I don’t think he would’ve had a chance anyways, Bush was able to win the popular vote and the electoral college by exploiting peoples’ fears, post-9/11
THIS! I remember it when it happened. The MSM freaked out and flushed him down and I was asking myself why was his screaming a big deal lol. MSM was more powerful back then because people trusted it. Trump, however, couldn't be flushed despite multiple attempts.
Bustersword88 it's actually interesting - the kind of media scrutiny that killed Howard Dean actually made Trump far stronger. In their attempts to hit Trump's credibility, they accidentally gave him millions of dollars worth of advertising. It's forgotten that there was actually quite a lot of bipartisan catharsis in watching Trump smack around the establishment candidates back in the primaries. I
Be N S O N yeah. Turned out so well, huh? He sure is doing a great job kicking around those establishment chronies... As they literally are now in power and dividing up our country's public land and structure for themselves.
The more states he named, the more aggressive he was getting; it's like he was going from human to Hulk. Poor guy, and he seemed so enthusiastic and happy at the end. 😩🥺
"We're going to South Carolina! And Oklahoma! And Arizona! And North Dakota! And New Mexixo!..." "Ok dude, calm down now" "...AND CALIFORNIA! AND TEXAS!" "Oh"
The worst part is that they deemed him "Un-presidential" because of that scream. Yet it is one of those examples that show what passion really is. But people seem to be so narrow minded and misguided to even think.
Xian that because you're a brainwashed moron. You've never been so excited about something as to let out some kind of cheer? Lol go back to letting the media think for you.
I doubt very much the scream was what "ended" his run. He only came third in the caucuses to begin with - he just wasn't that popular of a candidate. Of course it makes a good story to blame it on the scream but that's baloney, he's actually exciting to watch or they wouldn't have him featured at the DNC.
It was a slightly different time back then, media talking heads were taken way more seriously when they talked about "presidential behaviour" and limited the options to just soulless automatons that performed according to a script and never acted out of line. ..not that anyone learned from it and applied to current elections.
Howard Dean has contended that it was not the 'Dean scream' that caused him to lose, but rather more his campaign was disorganized that he lossed to John Kerry in 2004. On top of the momentum Kerry had after defeating Dean in Iowa. Some in the media have also admitted they blew the scream out of proportion, which they did.
No one would elected this fool for anything,, The scream had nothing to do with it.. If he was black like Obola,, he would have been elected solely because of his race... Libturds are such idiots
Because CNN made it a huge story, killed his campaign dead. Dean wasn't establishment enough for them. Notice that just like Bernie that Dean was from Vermont? Apparently this is a problem for CNN.
@@labrocca there is a great YT video about Trump using memes,confidence and overall controversial remarks to appeal to the voters and win the presidental race. Maybe if Dean had created a more rowdy persona for himself after that "Yee-haw",he would have won,who knows?
the news networks just took that scream, sliced out the whole buildup and crowd noise, and basically played it non stop every day for weeks until his capaign was dead. Kerry ended up the DNC frontrunner, and Bush legit beat him on election day.
In context Dean had expected to do better in Iowa than he did. And there was a runup of weird Dean comments like what he'd said to the LGBTs, "Clinton was acclaimed as the first black president - I'll be the first GAY president!". National Review had a full cover issue "please nominate this man" because those conservatives smelled a weirdo whom Shrub could beat. This looked like a meltdown because - it was a meltdown. Dean sobered up later and was a competent DNC leader, as 2006 proved.
@@Blaqjaqshellaq That was true for the Republicans as well … until Trump. If the traditional media had been as powerful as they used to be even a few elections before, it would've been Jeb Bush, who would have politely lost to Hillary Clinton without putting up a fight, like Romney and McCain before him.
Man, when this happened I was in 4th grade and had no idea about anything, I thought 'thats politics I guess' Now it honestly breaks my heart, this guy actually looked happy and enthusiastic, and it's pretty obvious that the media just decided he's done, and took anything they could find and decided that it was embarrassing, even though no one cared before the media told them it was embarrassing. Poor guy. The treatment he got is disgusting.
WOW I was in 5th grade and I wasn't into politics at the time but I remember this vividly and thought wow that was cringe. (I guess because that's how the media portrayed it to be at the time) Looking back I see nothing wrong with this he was just enthusiastic and passionate.
I’m a little older than you, my mom was a big supporter of his though and I was perhaps too political as a kid looking back. My opinions have changed much over the years, but neither then nor now do I understand why so many people turned on him over this.
Stop blaming the media. It’s the retarded US populace that’s the problem. If Americans weren’t so fucking dumb they wouldn’t just follow what the media says. The media is a product of capitalism, profits are god so we have to look at the people who buy into it
So odd that the media tried this with Trump a thousands times harder and with much more damning stuff and it didn't affect him negatively in the slightest. But this guy one silly scream and it was over. Makes no sense.
this was the only time Howard showed emotion, he was all business up til this point, very popular, with the same momentum as Bernie Sanders. Here he finally starts to feed off the crowd, and lets out that yell that is literally nothing. But the news networks isolated the scream, cut out everything that came before. Inserted the scream everywhere they could, every promo, commercial, played it non-stop every day for weeks until his campaign was over. And now it's like the only thing people remember him for.
That's what I was going to say. I came here from a reddit politicssub bc a bunch of folks were talking about the scream that did him in. I can't help but be very confused?
Using today’s jargon, the media painted him as “crazy” using alternative facts. Same way they make Bernie seem crazy for wanting a decent standard of living for people in the wealthiest nation on the planet.
@@SFO14 Low income families do have a great standard of living in the US. Bernie is just a talking head that socialists like you vote for because he promises handouts. Has nothing to do with helping other people. Nothing is stopping him from giving one of his houses to a needy family.
@@razzendahcuben Giving away all of one's own wealth doesn't solve (or even come close to solving) systemic issues like wealth inequality and class disparity. Reform is necessary, and asking people to ruin their own lives before they're allowed to advocate for that reform is extremely lazy, and you already know that it's not an intelligent point to make so please stop making it.
I’m a life long Republican. And I remember watching this in 2004, and for the life of me, I still cannot figure out why this ended his campaign. He was excited trying to rally his supporters. 20 years later, still can’t figure that one out.
People don’t get it. He wasn’t the most popular one to begin with. He just placed third in Iowa and dealing with it like this wasn’t effective. People saw an already losing candidate look like a freak
This was one of the most manufactured events (and shameful) in American media history (and that's saying something). If a person is attempting to be heard over a jet engine and you cut the sound of the engine so the listener only hears the person yelling like a maniac, that's exactly what they did. Then after playing it 700,000 times, they then went "Oops, we didn't include the fact that Dean couldn't even be heard in the room over the roar of the audience!". They needed something to destroy Dean's campaign. If this happened today, corporate media would have been busted after the minute or so it took someone upload the complete video from their phone. Instead, we're 20 years down the road and the truth still is unknown to most. The presence of context is essential to understanding anything.
The media attending weren’t aware of the scream becoming a meme until the next day because there was nothing remarkable to report. Something about an omnidirectional microphone that doesn’t pick up crowd noises (?). It is a damn shame because Howard Dean is a good man.
@@datsnuffydude5460 They knew. A great cameraperson I knew said that producers on the ground were calling their bosses that night to warn them they were playing the audio without the full sound mix, just the isolated mic. Dean was calling out Dems and the Iraq war and that had to be stopped. They knew.
This is a really interesting point, the advancement of technology isn't all positives but the fact that people have recording devices at all times means we can avoid situations like this
The media smeared him because he was a lot more progressive than a lot of the Democratic Party. Remember this was all over the news. You’re right, it wasn’t that bad, but the media made him look crazy.
Absolutely mind blowing that something like this actually sank his campaign. To me, his scream showed me that he had genuine enthusiasm for his campaign. In a political landscape where putting on an act whenever you're in public is the norm, of course someone showcasing their authenticity was a threat to other people in power! I don't know his political positions, but at the very least I can tell that his heart was in his presidential campaign... which is more than I could say for most people. Bernie Sanders comes to mind. Like him or not, it is really REALLY hard to argue that the guy is not authentic and honest.
This didn’t sink his campaign. This came after he finished 3rd in the Iowa primary (watch the beginning of the video) which was a big disappointment to his campaign. The reality is that his support was mostly among young adults and that wasn’t enough. The idea that the scream killed his campaign is just a rationalization.
[?] Question Block yeah, it's a politically stupid country. That year was my first chance to vote and he was the candidate I should've been voting for. Such a benign thing and it became a mocked moment. That's when I learned how idiotic this country is. That's what happens when it's a two party system that really represents two sides of the same coin. They couldn't risk this guy's rhetoric (and still can't) so they get candidates (rep or dem) who always sell out to the banks and wall street or just character assassinate you.
I'm a right leaning libertarian and I see nothing at all wrong with the scream. Hell, his speech made him look like a fine candidate that I'd consider swing voting for. Certainly better than anything the Democrats have run in a long time. Then again, I thought Dukakis was an alright guy and the media ruined him after his tank foray.
And guess who went on to win the nomination? John Kerry, member of the Skull and Bone Society along with the guy he ran against, George Bush. Isn't that ironic?
I wish Howard would come to this video and see all the support he has here. I can’t even imagine the embarrassment this man had to go through just from being genuinely excited. If you ever see this Howard, we salut you!
Different times my friend. If you were to take Bob's burgers and play it in 2004, it would only be on late night cable and even then it would be controversial. And remember I'm talking about Bob's burgers. That's what anytime before 2010 was like.
In 2004, I was in my early 20s when I watched Howard Dean screamed and I was puzzled why is everyone make a big deal out of it in the following days. In 2019, I am in my second half 30s and again I watched Howard Dean scream replay and I *STILL* can't figured out why it is such a big deal.
it's the leadup. his bizarre listing of states, with his voice losing coherence. this was a man who had come in #3 after pinning so much of his hopes on at least #2. He knew he was going to lose New England to Kerry (that phony) and that he couldn't run a campaign outside it. The media then, as now, was tight with the D party and the media knew that Dean was a nutball. They were just being quiet about it up to then because, hey, he might actually be the nominee. This scream couldn't be covered up, so it wasn't. It gave the media cover to attack a Democrat and to appear impartial, when they were really in the tank for ANY democrat. Even that phony Kerry. t. Lieberman Democrat in 2004. yeah, my guy lost too.
Also then believe it or not it was considered unpresidential for a candidate to get crazy or curse or be mean to another politician! Times have drastically changed
@@zimriel bizarre listing of states? He was talking about the next caucus stops and all the places he was campaigning heavily. He wasn't a "nutball", but he was considered "too young" and the big boys hadn't gotten their chance ( Kerry, Hillary, etc ) . How confident the Democrats were that they could beat George Bush Jr.
@@cherokeeconcrete1986 He didn't fuck up at all. The media generally favors right-wing candidates because the media stations are owned by rich people and Republicans favor deregulation, tax breaks for the rich, and so on. So when he shouted like that -- which really wasn't a big deal at all -- all the news stations started saying "is he fit to be President?" like he did something wrong. He did nothing wrong at all. In a sane country with a sane news media it would have passed as a non-event.
John yeah. They want someone who's a reality tv star with questionable mental state and a trust fund baby. Grab 'em by the pussy and a small loan of a million dollars. Haha.
The fact that he lost the election due to a half a second sound byte show that we got what we deserved in terms of a president and the direction the country went/is going.
The media destroyed him. They can destroy anybody they want to except Donald Trump. But that's just because everybody has caught on that they have been selecting "world leaders" for decades.
Ah yes, 'cause the media (Fox news) easily destroyed Obama- oh wait. Selecting leaders my ass lol, you guys just want a scapegoat to throw all your problems on. Newsflash, the world is more complicated than that!
i was waiting for the bad part but it never came. I guess big media just tells us that this dude "screamed" and "ruined his career" and we are expected to go along with it enthusiastically because he is not established as an insider
Josh Briere) the scream didnt ruin him. The media did. That scream was played repeatedly across all news stations and analyzed and made fun of (you know how 24-hour news is). This scream turned him into a joke in the eyes of many americans. Its unfortunate, but thats how easily someone can lose credibility in the eyes of the public if the media teams up against them. (Disclaimer: I was only 9 during this election and only heard this all recently so i could be completely wrong)
@@SuperKeyifier You're not wrong. I was in my 40s and it never made sense to me either. The reason the media targeted him was because he was relatively *_progressive,_* and people were loving it. They had to make up something to criticize him for, just like later with Bernie Sanders. And now Kamala Harris (who isn't even all that progressive) is being criticized by Fox News weirdos for how she *_laughs,_* which is what brought me looking for this.
My dad was a big Dean supporter, and was at that rally. He said that Dr. Dean was preceded by, among others, a very flamboyant black preacher who totally got the crowd going.
Lol...I would like to think Dean was black in a past life..he is just himself..he does not have to be black to be ready to put people in jail like I am. It is the heart. He is a human being you recognize people of color all the time..not when it benefits you.
So what? Are you saying the "flamboyant" black guy is to blame for Dean getting a little dose of stupid? From where I stand (and stood at the time) looks like Dean poured a shot of stupid for himself. Whatever happened after that, he can eat.
The irony that by today's standards. His scream would've been the most tame thing any politician could ever do on live television. Now we have people in office who act like total jackasses or just plain assholes on public television,the people don't demand for the resignation of said politician
Me too. I came looking for this after Fox News weirdos argued that Kamala shouldn't be elected because of how she laughs. I hope she gets the *_last_* laugh!
Ike Okereke the fact that a campaign was ended by a yell that had nothing to do with policy or the candidate, and in no way showed that the candidate would be a non effective president
So I was 11 years old when this happened, and I never really understood why this sank Howard Dean's campaign. He gets a little excited and hypes the crowd up after a somewhat disappointing finish in the primary, lets out a "YEAH!" at the end of his speech, and that somehow makes him un-electable? Nothing to do with his stances on issues or anything? Regardless of his politics, something as insignificant as saying "YEAH" or "BYAAW" if you're a Chappelle's Show fan should not ruin a presidential campaign.
I know that it's stupid but the media controls a lot more than you think and late night shows and news broadcasters constantly made fun of it so Howard Dean slowly faded away into a joke
+BJMcB92 agreed. This is the first time I've seen this clip and it doesn't seem odd at all. If THIS is why he lost popularity, that's pretty fucking shallow. The Trumps, Carsons, Bachmans, etc. of the world make this clip seem benign.
+BJMcB92 i was eight going on nine then, and remember this too and I found it pretty funny. It's also pretty funny that I'm from Iowa, so here was something that went down in my home state. I also remember the 2004 election representing the first time I really understood politics on any level, being against Bush and being bummed out when he stole an election for the second time. I voted for Kerry in the Nickelodeon kid's pick mock election deal, and he actually won the kids' vote.
The corporate news stations wanted to destroy Howard Dean's chances of winning. It wasn't a real controversy it was a fake one generated by the media stations. Read between the lines.
+JokuRandomPoju ruined it? he didn't have a snowballs chance in Arizona of winning anyway. he did that to get attention and it didn't work such is life
I agree it was a huge deal by then when politicians tried to be perfect but in today's climate the exact opposite is true. Now they say and do anything and no one cares
For those who don't know: Howard Dean said in an interview with one of the mainstream media programs in 2003 that he was not going to feed or kneel before corporations, and that didn't sit well with the establishment. So, the first opportunity they got, they destroyed Howard Dean.
***** So I saw an interview Dean did with Abby Martin, and let me tell you, I was wrong about the guy. He was admitting that the things he supports were unconstitutional.. I was speechless. I thought I found a moderate Democrat. Boy was I wrong
I watched this on TV as it happened in 2004, from my couch in Austin, TX. If you’d ever watched Howard Dean before this, you’d have been well familiar with his habits of becoming impassioned and loud. I wasn’t even a supporter of his, and I thought it to be nothing I hadn’t heard before. Over the next few days, I was astounded that this was a big deal. More surprising at the time was the fact that he only came in third in Iowa. In October/November of 2003, he was the Dem front-runner.
@@TravelinBand747 Yeah, I'm one of countless Republicans who regrets voting for Bush. Gore is a globalist wacko, but I doubt he would have turned the world upside down like Bush did. There comes a point where you have to disregard partisanship and acknowledge objective reality.
2004: this guy made a scream? cant have that as president 2016/2024: a president who's xenophobic, racist, narcissistic, habitual liar and frequent cheater on his wives? sounds like my kind of guy, got my vote!
So in 2028 when a candidate lights farts at rallies and wears the North Korea flag as a cape, and can still get elected POTUS, we'll long for the days of normal candidates like Trump and Hillary
People exaggerate this. He came in third in Iowa… he was not the popular candidate to begin with. He pulled this and everyone who didn’t know about him were like “what a freak!”
Exactly! Whenever I heard this talked about, you would have thought that he had a crazed, murderous look in his eyes and screamed as if possessed. WTF's the big deal, he was excited and energetic, so what?
+Noah Borthwick he came in 3rd place in the DNC later that year and pretty much got shut out because of his little girly scream. It ruined him. Then Kerry vs Bush happened. And Bush won. If you're going to feel the bern like a punk bitch at least research your political party. You can feel my nuts on your face. #feelthejohnson
I...don't see what's wrong with this. I don't know much about Howard Dean but he just seems like a passionate and viable candidate and this clip is what screwed him over?
Niuniu Lai , the radio shows morphed the scream. Made it sound really weird. Then that morphed scream was played over and over. Pretty soon thats all every news station was talking about.
One man shows excitement and loses his career, another man talks about migrants eating cats and dogs. We have lost our way and are in the stupidest timeline. The ignorance of the general population will be the ruin of this nation.
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observing from 2020, this seems such a stupid, innocuous thing for a politician's career to end over..
I thought so, even then but in 2020 he sounds quiet and reserved.
They’re dumb as fuck for hating on this it’s pretty dope
Revisionist history at it's finest
Shame we can't end the career of Republicans for treason.
Truth lol
If he done that in 2016 He would be memed into the Office
Patrick Bateman 😂😂😂😂😂
Patrick Bateman BUT HEY THATS JUST A THEORY,A MEME THEORY
Mindblow, but he would have actually been good.
You know something? You know something? Ordinary Americans.
Patrick Bateman just like trump
It was one scream. That’s all it took. The thing is if this happened today, he’d immediately be the front runner for having such passion and enthusiasm
Edit: well Kamala Harris and Tim Walz tried this strategy and it didn’t work as they lost in a landslide. I was wrong
There’s a way to express Passion and enthusiasm without being over the top outlandish unserious fool.
Now you can mock the disabled, have racial insensitivity, talk of grabbing women, love-whoo Putin, and incite a riot......You may the the White House again.....We are doomed!!!!
We would’ve absolutely loved the guy nowadays we have to choose from a quiet old man or an orange
@@Ch4rlz_ThA_Princ3 He objectively did not.
@@Talisguy buddy I went to an extremely liberal arts university. I even started to unknowingly entertain some of the progressive ideologies.
Ive cared not for politics for the entirety of my life and was actually on the Dems side during the first impeachment trial.
I believed wholeheartedly that such high figures of authority would never make such accusations without KNOWING they had concrete evidence to support the Russia collusion allegations.
But when that entire trial slowly unraveled and showed me the truth of the matter, thats when my interest was piqued and i began closely following his accomplishments and objectives as president.
And objectively he had some of the most sound fiscal policies offered up by any politician since... honestly from what i hear from Gen x and what Ive read.. Bill Clinton.
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The scream didn't doom him. The news media making it out like it was a big deal doomed him. It was pure propaganda to help the other candidate win.
BINGO! the scream was a 'nothing burger'!
Dumb. Bush money doomed him...
But he such a fucking douchebag who gives a shit? The "news media" > yeah cuz they always out to make DEMOCRATS look bad, right? LOL
Let me guess.... Fox News?
@@randolphmantooth5324 This was during a primary against a more establishment backed democrat.
Back when having enthusiasm and energy were disqualifying attributes for a presidential candidate.
:(
2020 and the winner has negative energy in his body
@@Lucas-rl1wt Trump lost my dude, just accept it.
@@rhino7915 not even from the US
@Tom Nye wtf just touching your beloved leader makes me Trump supporter/obsessed. You really are snowflakes aren´t you lol
Imagine having a presidential candidate that could like.. get amped up without a heart attack and remember so many states in a row in the year 2020
Oof that hit way too hard
Fucking hilarious lmao
Remember so many states in a row 😆
im gonna cry
that would be lit.
You can genuinley hear the passion and determination in his voice throughout the speech
You can hear the low testosterone pansyism in his voice. No thanks.
He realized they crowd cheered every time he listed a state, so he just kept doing it, then he did it over. That's more like watching a monkey do a lab test then do it again because the result was positive. It wasn't him being "genuine", it was him working the crowd. I'm shocked that people can't recognize this from the clip.
The "speech" is mainly him listing off states so he doesn't have to keep talking, kind of a cheap move but I guess some people just love to be manipulated.
@@syberphish This guy gets it.
@@syberphishsemi-related, but I hate it when rappers and rock-n-rollers list off cites in their songs.
All I heard was gravel
God forbid someone actually show genuine emotion.
That was my thought at the time. Dean had energy and knew how to rile up the base. Kerry never came close to that and got the nomination for being "safe." Didn't work out too well, did it?
zecraw I agree, Dean had the best shot at ousting Bush in 2004. I am not in anyway anti-media but it was a shame that the media manipulated it's coverage of this speech to make Dean seem like a mad man. He had an injustice done to him there
God forbid somebody gets horse from talking a lot.
I'm completely outside of American politics and the ideals within- but I'm shocked that a man's career was ruined for a scream and a hoarse voice. That says volumes- absolute volumes- about the American political psyche.
The dude was on-edge of psycho, and his policies were almost as cancerous as Obama's. I'm no fan of the bushes, but their rot was slower at least.
The fact that this is a problem is whats wrong with politics.
It's been around for a long time. They say that one reason why John F. Kennedy won the election in 1960 is because when they appeared on TV together for the first ever televised Presidential debates, Richard Nixon looked ill while Kennedy looked strong and vibrant. (Richard Nixon WAS ill at that time. He had the flu.)
It's probably also one reason that it wasn't widely known at the time of his presidency that Franklin Delano Roosevelt was in a wheelchair.
It's nothing new.
Hallie Harker also, Nixon’s PR team didn’t know how to cosmetically prep Nixon the way most candidates today are prepped before going on TV every time. Hell, even before going on stage: stage make-up, for example. They didn’t understand that TV magnifies everything and images are lasting. So Nixon just looked super old and out of date next to a young, handsome, vibrant and smooth skinned JFK. Nixon actually went on TV with zero make-up. Ronald Reagan was probably the first President to really understand how everything on TV matters and that presentation goes a long way. His acting background went a long way. Knowing something and SEEING something are two completely different things in America
@@youtubecommenter37 I didn't help that he was ill during that debate, either. He had the flu or something like it. If you're not feeling well, I don't know that cosmetics are going to mask that.
Nah, taking money from wall street, big pharma, insurance companies, oil companies, military industrial complex, etc. and then doing their bidding instead of representing the people is what is wrong with politics
Wouldn't call it a "problem." It's just funny is all..
Aww, he was so excited and got ridiculed so harshly for being genuine :(
@Anthony Tucker creepy? Like Joe Biden creepy or what?
Anthony Tucker you’re creepy bruh
@Danny Mt ehh not really
Danny Mt cant take a meme
@Danny Mt i dont see anything creepy-
I still dont get how this did so much damage
It didn't. Some high up group decided that's what they'd latch onto, to make everyone think it was bad.
@@Mattened so it kinda did, even though it never should've
His campaign wasn't doing well at this point. This was just the nail in the coffin.
It was already over for him. He was expected to win Iowa, and he came in third. This speech was just him trying to downplay the results and re-hype his supporters.
@@TheJman2600 This isn't true. He was in the lead all the way up until Iowa, and he only lost Iowa 38% to 18%. Hardly out of the race. I don't know if you lived through this, but I did, and it was shocking how his campaign just basically ended after being the favorite the entire time. The scream, and more realistically, the negative news coverage, led to him losing a few more primaries before he finally dropped out, but it killed any recovery he could have had after a poor showing in the first state.
2004: Awkward and out of character
2020: Perfectly acceptable
Lol.
Right? If this happened today he’d be a front runner and trending for actually having some passion.
@@joedunphy5064 Agreed. I was kind of bummed the American public didn't give him a chance after that. He had some really good stuff on deck I really liked.
@@vectorhold6489 He was also the first politician that embraced smaller contributions and online footprint that Obama later harnessed for his ascendence.
Nope when everything was regular and now everything has to be over the top and outlandish
I legit do not see how a mildly awkward low-volume yell is a big deal for people looking at who to choose for a political leader. WTF, people?
The reason why democracy is retarded lol. Nothing better, so just roll with the punches I guess.
I agree, it was pretty cringe admittedly but candidates have made worse gaffes.
But keep in mind this was a different time (early 00's)
That’s liberal America where the way you drink your water from a bottle is a reason to be impeached
A lot of wise people believe that individuals need to earn a voice, only because there’s a lot of power in it.
But at the same time it’s like, we don’t want to just silence people... it’s always complicated haha. Two opposites and we’re trying to find the middle
@@dennisbrown2106 lol swing and a miss
If he runs in 2020 and just does this scream he’ll win by a landslide
Because memes tbh
Unfortunately 2004 Democrats are no longer welcome in the Democratic party
harryantino 😂😂
Doubt it
Jelly Donut probably true. Classic liberalism is perceived as right wing insanity by 2020 standards of the DNC.
Even at the time, I didn't understand what was so bad about this. A dude got excited and passionate, let out a harmless 'yell' no different than millions do every week watching a sports game, and yet somehow he was deemed "unhinged" and "inappopriate for office"? What a load of shit.
His campaign was doomed anyway. This was just the nail in the coffin
You act like this little bro and you are finished.
I'm sure his opponents just dumped a ton of cash into the media to play this nonstop and slander him over it.
They did it because Dean isn't part of the establishment. The media comes after everyone that isn't part of their circle.
Dave chappelle
I don’t see how passion for one’s job translates into “bad candidate”
Kingwaffleton Agreed!! Motivation and being self-driven is so rare and wonderful!! Hard-working kind of guy!!
Final solution fantasy.
Democrats have a standard for decor, professionalism, and manor. Had he been running as a Republican, I've no doubt he would have been elected President.
Haroldbeavis1969 that’s the funniest thing I’ve read all year. Thanks for the laugh
Jimmulator A Republican President can shoot someone on 5th Avenue and Republicans won't care.
As a kid I never understood what was wrong with this......I still don't.
+Aj007cool That probably explains your profile picture...
+rich m K.
+rich m Best reply I've seen in a long time. Kudos sir.
As a kid I never knew what politics were, I only knew what being a kid was. I miss 2004
+Worldraven .Nevar Cool story bro.
Society owes this man an apology.
No
@@lotharlundgren9509yes
@@lotharlundgren9509aw, did him having a different opinion than you hurt your feelings?
@audellaroque4730 Did you eat paint chips as a baby or something?
Modern society is bad
In 2004 people thought that he had a public mental breakdown after this speech. I would take this over what we have today.
He seems to know many states.
Lmao most underrated comment ever
howard we get it, you mastered US geography in third grade
@@spencerjohnson7103 lmao still better than most Americans tho
I think he made a couple up and nobody noticed
Wait, people don’t know the states?
this guy should be a commentator for the WWE
lollll
I first heard this as an audio file somewhere and thought that it was from a wwe match.
haaa.........
YEAHH
BY GOD MANKIND IS BROKEN IN HALF YEEEAAAAAH
The fact this effected his campaign is actually disgusting and shows were our priorities lay
*affected *where
*lie
It is.
I don’t think he would’ve had a chance anyways, Bush was able to win the popular vote and the electoral college by exploiting peoples’ fears, post-9/11
Has nothing to do with priorities. It's about the power of media and the money they make. That's it.
Someone said this was Dean's "I Have A Scream" speech and I laughed so friggin hard
LMAO
@@forlostnfound perfect 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Jesus Christ. 😂😂😂 This made me literally lol.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
_"The scream that doomed Howard Dean"_
No. The media *character assassinated him.*
What year were you born?
THIS! I remember it when it happened. The MSM freaked out and flushed him down and I was asking myself why was his screaming a big deal lol. MSM was more powerful back then because people trusted it. Trump, however, couldn't be flushed despite multiple attempts.
Bustersword88 it's actually interesting - the kind of media scrutiny that killed Howard Dean actually made Trump far stronger. In their attempts to hit Trump's credibility, they accidentally gave him millions of dollars worth of advertising.
It's forgotten that there was actually quite a lot of bipartisan catharsis in watching Trump smack around the establishment candidates back in the primaries. I
Be N S O N yeah. Turned out so well, huh? He sure is doing a great job kicking around those establishment chronies...
As they literally are now in power and dividing up our country's public land and structure for themselves.
Trump was constantly in the news in the 2016 election. Even bad publicity is free publicity. And he drowned out everyone else.
The more states he named, the more aggressive he was getting; it's like he was going from human to Hulk. Poor guy, and he seemed so enthusiastic and happy at the end. 😩🥺
So do I. Howard Dean will always have my support..Hillary Clinton and Al Gore.
I think he might have forgot Alaska. That’s what did it
Don't make me name states, you won't like me when I name states
A local morning radio show put his speech along side recordings of Randy Savage. Hilarity
"We're going to South Carolina! And Oklahoma! And Arizona! And North Dakota! And New Mexixo!..."
"Ok dude, calm down now"
"...AND CALIFORNIA! AND TEXAS!"
"Oh"
Absolutely love the energy coming from this guy. It sucks that this damaged his career
I don't
@@warpigsheals you are massively gay
*Sad raptor noises*
That's called cocaine, my friend.
Should have never dropped outta that race. In retrospect this is not embarrassing at all compared to our modern shameless politicians.
he went goblin mode for one second and that’s all he’s known for
Yes
The worst part is that they deemed him "Un-presidential" because of that scream. Yet it is one of those examples that show what passion really is. But people seem to be so narrow minded and misguided to even think.
i remember this moment and i dont remember anyone saying that. we just thought it was weird in context
Xian that because you're a brainwashed moron. You've never been so excited about something as to let out some kind of cheer? Lol go back to letting the media think for you.
It was more of a squeal. Very unmasculine.
Exactly and look where we are now
He was an awful candidate. Full of anger and empty inside.
I still don't see how this could ruin his career. I'd probably blame the journalists for not having anything better to write about.
I doubt very much the scream was what "ended" his run. He only came third in the caucuses to begin with - he just wasn't that popular of a candidate. Of course it makes a good story to blame it on the scream but that's baloney, he's actually exciting to watch or they wouldn't have him featured at the DNC.
It was a slightly different time back then, media talking heads were taken way more seriously when they talked about "presidential behaviour" and limited the options to just soulless automatons that performed according to a script and never acted out of line. ..not that anyone learned from it and applied to current elections.
Howard Dean has contended that it was not the 'Dean scream' that caused him to lose, but rather more his campaign was disorganized that he lossed to John Kerry in 2004. On top of the momentum Kerry had after defeating Dean in Iowa.
Some in the media have also admitted they blew the scream out of proportion, which they did.
davcar35 Dean's own explanation makes way more sense.
he lost because no one wanted him.
He was so proud of his scream😂 I feel like he was practicing that scream for a week, I feel so bad
carlos8gomez59 nail on the head.
No one would elected this fool for anything,, The scream had nothing to do with it.. If he was black like Obola,, he would have been elected solely because of his race... Libturds are such idiots
grow up clark racist like yourself still did not stop Obama from being elected twice read a book or something # your an idiot.
Clark Air Base pathetic troll
cool story bro. I laugh when republican voters say libtard, seeing as how educated people vote left and morons vote right
Damn he had so much passion in his voice. It’s really sad how they treated him
Passion? It was clearly manufactured. The reason it was so "cringe" is because he was half-hearted, like most Dems. Go all in or don't. Weak.
He lost the election... because... of... a scream... Thank you America.
Your welcome
+Hyperkinmario 4 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Hyperkinmario 4 those noodle arms looks like you lift
+Hyperkinmario 4 YA!!!!!
Hyperkinmario 4 daaaaaaaaang
How did that ruin him? Thats damn near half a "yee-haw", the most American thing he could have done!
Because CNN made it a huge story, killed his campaign dead. Dean wasn't establishment enough for them. Notice that just like Bernie that Dean was from Vermont? Apparently this is a problem for CNN.
@@labrocca there is a great YT video about Trump using memes,confidence and overall controversial remarks to appeal to the voters and win the presidental race. Maybe if Dean had created a more rowdy persona for himself after that "Yee-haw",he would have won,who knows?
the news networks just took that scream, sliced out the whole buildup and crowd noise, and basically played it non stop every day for weeks until his capaign was dead. Kerry ended up the DNC frontrunner, and Bush legit beat him on election day.
@@mysoncrumphaseveryinjury3853 I wonder what lemony scented emperor you could be talking about?
@CornPop Was A Bad Dude Come on Maaan
DumpChump2020 for a better tomorrow.
I can't believe that scream doomed him. The scream is hilarious and it just seemed like was really into it. I loved it.
In context Dean had expected to do better in Iowa than he did. And there was a runup of weird Dean comments like what he'd said to the LGBTs, "Clinton was acclaimed as the first black president - I'll be the first GAY president!". National Review had a full cover issue "please nominate this man" because those conservatives smelled a weirdo whom Shrub could beat.
This looked like a meltdown because - it was a meltdown.
Dean sobered up later and was a competent DNC leader, as 2006 proved.
@@zimrieloh shit u know ur shit
People were naturally more based back then, social media hadn’t ruined everything yet
Yeah,ruining everything, such as using the word based.
@@mm860 your comment seems like something from an edgy 12 year old
Nowadays this would win him an election
are you kidding me? this scream should have guaranteed him the presidency!
Jeffrey Bird Screw you
Unfortunately, the Democrats were (and are) afraid to think outside the box and nominate a candidate the MSM puts beyond the pale...
This is looked down upon more than a President grabbing people by the pussy.
@@Blaqjaqshellaq That was true for the Republicans as well … until Trump. If the traditional media had been as powerful as they used to be even a few elections before, it would've been Jeb Bush, who would have politely lost to Hillary Clinton without putting up a fight, like Romney and McCain before him.
Man, when this happened I was in 4th grade and had no idea about anything, I thought 'thats politics I guess'
Now it honestly breaks my heart, this guy actually looked happy and enthusiastic, and it's pretty obvious that the media just decided he's done, and took anything they could find and decided that it was embarrassing, even though no one cared before the media told them it was embarrassing. Poor guy. The treatment he got is disgusting.
WOW I was in 5th grade and I wasn't into politics at the time but I remember this vividly and thought wow that was cringe. (I guess because that's how the media portrayed it to be at the time) Looking back I see nothing wrong with this he was just enthusiastic and passionate.
I’m a little older than you, my mom was a big supporter of his though and I was perhaps too political as a kid looking back. My opinions have changed much over the years, but neither then nor now do I understand why so many people turned on him over this.
Stop blaming the media. It’s the retarded US populace that’s the problem. If Americans weren’t so fucking dumb they wouldn’t just follow what the media says. The media is a product of capitalism, profits are god so we have to look at the people who buy into it
I love it.... he deserved it 😂
So odd that the media tried this with Trump a thousands times harder and with much more damning stuff and it didn't affect him negatively in the slightest. But this guy one silly scream and it was over. Makes no sense.
“BYAHHH!”
-Dave Chapelle
Exactly what brought me here lmao 😂
Lol damn u
That's what brought me here. I'm deadddddddd. 😂😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Loved it
I want this guy hyping up my daily life. “He’s going to the bedroom, and the bathroom, and the shower, and the breakfast table. YEAHHH”
😭😭😭😭😭
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Funk yea pupa. I gotta get that mojo or I'm dead soon.
I'm fucking dying
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Seriously, that’s it? It’s literally nothing.
Michael Price this was 2004 bro, the time you didn’t wanna be a meme
this was the only time Howard showed emotion, he was all business up til this point, very popular, with the same momentum as Bernie Sanders. Here he finally starts to feed off the crowd, and lets out that yell that is literally nothing.
But the news networks isolated the scream, cut out everything that came before. Inserted the scream everywhere they could, every promo, commercial, played it non-stop every day for weeks until his campaign was over. And now it's like the only thing people remember him for.
@@wdkaye Anything is possible when you open your heart to hatred and boredom from endless repetition by the electron mediaverse
Precisely.
That's what I was going to say. I came here from a reddit politicssub bc a bunch of folks were talking about the scream that did him in. I can't help but be very confused?
I really don't see why it was controversial.
Honestly, I appreciate the apparent enthusiasm and authenticity.
Using today’s jargon, the media painted him as “crazy” using alternative facts. Same way they make Bernie seem crazy for wanting a decent standard of living for people in the wealthiest nation on the planet.
@@SFO14 Low income families do have a great standard of living in the US. Bernie is just a talking head that socialists like you vote for because he promises handouts. Has nothing to do with helping other people. Nothing is stopping him from giving one of his houses to a needy family.
@@razzendahcuben You are criticizing “socialists” and in the same breath asking Bernie to give away a house 😂
@@razzendahcuben Giving away all of one's own wealth doesn't solve (or even come close to solving) systemic issues like wealth inequality and class disparity. Reform is necessary, and asking people to ruin their own lives before they're allowed to advocate for that reform is extremely lazy, and you already know that it's not an intelligent point to make so please stop making it.
I’m a life long Republican. And I remember watching this in 2004, and for the life of me, I still cannot figure out why this ended his campaign. He was excited trying to rally his supporters. 20 years later, still can’t figure that one out.
People don’t get it. He wasn’t the most popular one to begin with. He just placed third in Iowa and dealing with it like this wasn’t effective. People saw an already losing candidate look like a freak
This was one of the most manufactured events (and shameful) in American media history (and that's saying something). If a person is attempting to be heard over a jet engine and you cut the sound of the engine so the listener only hears the person yelling like a maniac, that's exactly what they did. Then after playing it 700,000 times, they then went "Oops, we didn't include the fact that Dean couldn't even be heard in the room over the roar of the audience!". They needed something to destroy Dean's campaign. If this happened today, corporate media would have been busted after the minute or so it took someone upload the complete video from their phone. Instead, we're 20 years down the road and the truth still is unknown to most. The presence of context is essential to understanding anything.
The wrote all of that to not say shit.
Ryan Palmer you missed “The presence of context is essential to understanding anything”.. you’re the idiot here Jack
The media attending weren’t aware of the scream becoming a meme until the next day because there was nothing remarkable to report. Something about an omnidirectional microphone that doesn’t pick up crowd noises (?). It is a damn shame because Howard Dean is a good man.
@@datsnuffydude5460 They knew. A great cameraperson I knew said that producers on the ground were calling their bosses that night to warn them they were playing the audio without the full sound mix, just the isolated mic. Dean was calling out Dems and the Iraq war and that had to be stopped. They knew.
This is a really interesting point, the advancement of technology isn't all positives but the fact that people have recording devices at all times means we can avoid situations like this
God forbid we have someone this passionate and enthusiastic nowadays.
@user-mg3wg5yx7n true. Can’t have strong men in this society.
@user-mg3wg5yx7n That's about the most ignorant thing I've ever read. Second only to the Bible and Amy Schumer's subtitles in her shitty videos.
if howard dean made that scream in 2020 no would care
Blame SNL
Now yuo see...
Does that say more about Howard Dean or more about America in 2020?
@@timothygalvin3021 we've gotten less judgemental
@@CrowClouds another way to say that is we've lowered our standards
Crazy this was a major blow in the minds of the public, just shows what 20 years really is.
seriously? that "scream" really wasn't that bad.
Lord Altros... Yeah but it was a very primal, "I'm the man" scream. He was trying to lead the people into battle but all it did was turn them off.
The media smeared him because he was a lot more progressive than a lot of the Democratic Party. Remember this was all over the news. You’re right, it wasn’t that bad, but the media made him look crazy.
MetaL BraiN \m/Extreme Metal Enthusiast \m/ Liberal media's favorite tactic
You think that's bad? You should read about what happened to ed Miliband because of a picture of him eating a sandwich
Apokolips Lord "of the whole world"
I actually feel bad,he looks so excited and happy
Absolutely mind blowing that something like this actually sank his campaign. To me, his scream showed me that he had genuine enthusiasm for his campaign. In a political landscape where putting on an act whenever you're in public is the norm, of course someone showcasing their authenticity was a threat to other people in power! I don't know his political positions, but at the very least I can tell that his heart was in his presidential campaign... which is more than I could say for most people. Bernie Sanders comes to mind. Like him or not, it is really REALLY hard to argue that the guy is not authentic and honest.
That's what makes it even more funny... it ruined his career 😂
Bernie sanders the millionaire socialist is authentic?
The scream made him look like a bumbling foo which is why it ruined him
@@socallawrenceBoth Biden and Trump and have acted far worse than this botched war cry. This politician seem genuine.
This didn’t sink his campaign. This came after he finished 3rd in the Iowa primary (watch the beginning of the video) which was a big disappointment to his campaign. The reality is that his support was mostly among young adults and that wasn’t enough. The idea that the scream killed his campaign is just a rationalization.
In the USA something like that is enough to ruin a career? Lol, man
[?] Question Block In 2004 it was. We have fallen a long way from whatever standards we had then sadly.....
[?] Question Block yeah, it's a politically stupid country. That year was my first chance to vote and he was the candidate I should've been voting for. Such a benign thing and it became a mocked moment. That's when I learned how idiotic this country is. That's what happens when it's a two party system that really represents two sides of the same coin. They couldn't risk this guy's rhetoric (and still can't) so they get candidates (rep or dem) who always sell out to the banks and wall street or just character assassinate you.
Presence Go fuck yourself
[?] Question Block How dare u !
Oh, fuck off.
He literally just screamed and then news outlets just ruined him for no reason
he wasn't the media elites anointed choice.
I'm a right leaning libertarian and I see nothing at all wrong with the scream. Hell, his speech made him look like a fine candidate that I'd consider swing voting for. Certainly better than anything the Democrats have run in a long time. Then again, I thought Dukakis was an alright guy and the media ruined him after his tank foray.
And guess who went on to win the nomination? John Kerry, member of the Skull and Bone Society along with the guy he ran against, George Bush. Isn't that ironic?
Yeah...Karma..Kellin the room is here now. Redemption for the USA is coming.
They did ruin him for a reason: he was progressive, that was the reason.
I wish Howard would come to this video and see all the support he has here. I can’t even imagine the embarrassment this man had to go through just from being genuinely excited. If you ever see this Howard, we salut you!
Hell I might come back to this comment section when I’m feeling like crap.
He hasn't left his room since then...
@@wolfgabriel we shall be here waiting bro. We are here 24/7. Stop by anytime! Yee haw!
At least he got a Chapelle show skit in his honor and is in the into to the podcast "Abe Lincoln's Top Hat" i hope he gets royalties.
The way they buried him for this is crazy. Howard is one of the best candidates that the dnc has ever had.
before the scream he sounded like a wrestling promonter
Lol! I was thinking the same thing!
He had a stone cold rasp
+Ibrahim Jnah
You need a pair of sunglasses to look as cool as your reply.
+Ibrahim Jnah He started naming the different states and people started chanting WHAT?! after every single one LOL!!
And his name is...
I don't understand how even in 2004 this could Doom someone's career? This was freaking funny & fun
Simple: The media had it out for him. They spun up a ridiculous narrative about him and repeated it over and over again.
Different times my friend. If you were to take Bob's burgers and play it in 2004, it would only be on late night cable and even then it would be controversial. And remember I'm talking about Bob's burgers. That's what anytime before 2010 was like.
@jygb7092 : That he was unstable and out of control.
That's especially ironic, since people who knew him said he was a low drama person.
@jygb7092 You're calling ex-governor, physician, author and consultant Howard Dean dumb. I wonder which people a numbskull like you think are smart.
@jygb7092 a yell confirms someone is dumb? That's a pretty dumb comment.
This was actually a dope speech. I laughed at it as a kid but didn't understand why people didn't vote for him due to this
a dope speech? my man said how happy he was to come third and then just started listing states
@@imamoronand9199I heard, that he's never gonna give up, and do what he can. What did you watch
I just remember Chappelle....BYAHHH
Even as a KID, @wabdih, you had more sense than an awful lot of adults today!!
Howard Dean made a fool out of himself!
this man was treated unfairly
In 2004, I was in my early 20s when I watched Howard Dean screamed and I was puzzled why is everyone make a big deal out of it in the following days.
In 2019, I am in my second half 30s and again I watched Howard Dean scream replay and I *STILL* can't figured out why it is such a big deal.
it's the leadup. his bizarre listing of states, with his voice losing coherence. this was a man who had come in #3 after pinning so much of his hopes on at least #2. He knew he was going to lose New England to Kerry (that phony) and that he couldn't run a campaign outside it.
The media then, as now, was tight with the D party and the media knew that Dean was a nutball. They were just being quiet about it up to then because, hey, he might actually be the nominee.
This scream couldn't be covered up, so it wasn't. It gave the media cover to attack a Democrat and to appear impartial, when they were really in the tank for ANY democrat.
Even that phony Kerry.
t. Lieberman Democrat in 2004. yeah, my guy lost too.
Also then believe it or not it was considered unpresidential for a candidate to get crazy or curse or be mean to another politician! Times have drastically changed
@@zimriel bizarre listing of states? He was talking about the next caucus stops and all the places he was campaigning heavily. He wasn't a "nutball", but he was considered "too young" and the big boys hadn't gotten their chance ( Kerry, Hillary, etc ) . How confident the Democrats were that they could beat George Bush Jr.
It wouldn’t be a big deal today
same
I'm confused? Just sounds like he just really wanted to be the President and got very excited!!
How the media ended his chances
And that's Where he Fucked up at...He even knew it
@@cherokeeconcrete1986 He didn't fuck up at all. The media generally favors right-wing candidates because the media stations are owned by rich people and Republicans favor deregulation, tax breaks for the rich, and so on. So when he shouted like that -- which really wasn't a big deal at all -- all the news stations started saying "is he fit to be President?" like he did something wrong. He did nothing wrong at all. In a sane country with a sane news media it would have passed as a non-event.
Way to emotional for a man. People don’t respect emotional men
John yeah. They want someone who's a reality tv star with questionable mental state and a trust fund baby. Grab 'em by the pussy and a small loan of a million dollars. Haha.
The fact that he lost the election due to a half a second sound byte show that we got what we deserved in terms of a president and the direction the country went/is going.
And racist Republicans with hidden agendas that love Europe more and Putin.
We didn't deserve this, mainstream media did this to him because he wasn't part of the establishment like John Kerry was
He lost before this. Then he screamed like a crazy person.
Crazy how back then this was controversial but now it’s super tame
It really wasn’t that controversial… people just saw a losing candidate act like a freak
2020 and the scream honestly doesn’t seem like anything anyone would’ve remembered an hour later
What's wrong with this?
The media destroyed him. They can destroy anybody they want to except Donald Trump. But that's just because everybody has caught on that they have been selecting "world leaders" for decades.
See this was before Trump was a thing so you had to be a perfect politician and not show any emotion.
Ah yes, 'cause the media (Fox news) easily destroyed Obama- oh wait. Selecting leaders my ass lol, you guys just want a scapegoat to throw all your problems on. Newsflash, the world is more complicated than that!
Lmao dude ur dumb if you don't think the news plays a critical role in selecting our presidents and politicians
Xtreme Anime I agree, media has been playing a role in presidential elections since (at least) the third election for president.
0:34 for your replay pleasure
Martin Hall EEYYAAAAAAAAAHHH!!!
Sounds likes a karate chop he shoulda won cause of this scream
Oh yea yea
0:35
Martin Hall thank you, not all heroes wear capes
0:35
OMG this was 20 years ago as of today!
i was waiting for the bad part but it never came. I guess big media just tells us that this dude "screamed" and "ruined his career" and we are expected to go along with it enthusiastically because he is not established as an insider
I was thinking the same exact thing
Josh Briere) the scream didnt ruin him. The media did. That scream was played repeatedly across all news stations and analyzed and made fun of (you know how 24-hour news is). This scream turned him into a joke in the eyes of many americans. Its unfortunate, but thats how easily someone can lose credibility in the eyes of the public if the media teams up against them.
(Disclaimer: I was only 9 during this election and only heard this all recently so i could be completely wrong)
No, that's a male acting like an ass
@@SuperKeyifier You're not wrong. I was in my 40s and it never made sense to me either. The reason the media targeted him was because he was relatively *_progressive,_* and people were loving it. They had to make up something to criticize him for, just like later with Bernie Sanders. And now Kamala Harris (who isn't even all that progressive) is being criticized by Fox News weirdos for how she *_laughs,_* which is what brought me looking for this.
My dad was a big Dean supporter, and was at that rally. He said that Dr. Dean was preceded by, among others, a very flamboyant black preacher who totally got the crowd going.
Lol...I would like to think Dean was black in a past life..he is just himself..he does not have to be black to be ready to put people in jail like I am. It is the heart. He is a human being you recognize people of color all the time..not when it benefits you.
@@katrinaellis2378 What is this comment?
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Amazing, accepted by one and judged by another
So what? Are you saying the "flamboyant" black guy is to blame for Dean getting a little dose of stupid? From where I stand (and stood at the time) looks like Dean poured a shot of stupid for himself. Whatever happened after that, he can eat.
The irony that by today's standards.
His scream would've been the most tame thing any politician could ever do on live television. Now we have people in office who act like total jackasses or just plain assholes on public television,the people don't demand for the resignation of said politician
Especially if it's trump.
The current political climate brought me back here and we definitely owe this man an apology. We need this enthusiasm now.
Me too. I came looking for this after Fox News weirdos argued that Kamala shouldn't be elected because of how she laughs. I hope she gets the *_last_* laugh!
The fact that this actually ruined his campaign is just testament to how shallow and superficial American society is.
YAHHH
OutlawStarkiller
How? Please explain.
Ike Okereke the fact that a campaign was ended by a yell that had nothing to do with policy or the candidate, and in no way showed that the candidate would be a non effective president
Ani Nair
People blamed it on the scream, but it was more than that.
OutlawStarkiller i know looooogic
superficial?
So I was 11 years old when this happened, and I never really understood why this sank Howard Dean's campaign. He gets a little excited and hypes the crowd up after a somewhat disappointing finish in the primary, lets out a "YEAH!" at the end of his speech, and that somehow makes him un-electable? Nothing to do with his stances on issues or anything? Regardless of his politics, something as insignificant as saying "YEAH" or "BYAAW" if you're a Chappelle's Show fan should not ruin a presidential campaign.
I know that it's stupid but the media controls a lot more than you think and late night shows and news broadcasters constantly made fun of it so Howard Dean slowly faded away into a joke
The truth is he was already sinking in the polls; the scream definitely didn't help...
+BJMcB92 agreed. This is the first time I've seen this clip and it doesn't seem odd at all. If THIS is why he lost popularity, that's pretty fucking shallow. The Trumps, Carsons, Bachmans, etc. of the world make this clip seem benign.
+BJMcB92 That's brain-dead America for you. To the average voter, politicians have to act like composed robots without any sense of sincerity.
+BJMcB92 i was eight going on nine then, and remember this too and I found it pretty funny. It's also pretty funny that I'm from Iowa, so here was something that went down in my home state. I also remember the 2004 election representing the first time I really understood politics on any level, being against Bush and being bummed out when he stole an election for the second time. I voted for Kerry in the Nickelodeon kid's pick mock election deal, and he actually won the kids' vote.
This guy reminds me so much of Andy Bernard from the office for whatever reason
Oh I can so just sit here and cry!
i'm dying..lol
Same, I think this inspired the andy character
David Niemynski yes
@David Niemynski. So true. Damn, you nailed it.
It wasn’t even that weird tbh
I don't know why this was a issue. He was just feeling the energy from the crowd. I admire his passion.
The corporate news stations wanted to destroy Howard Dean's chances of winning. It wasn't a real controversy it was a fake one generated by the media stations. Read between the lines.
I'll take the Dean Scream over "Pokemon Go to the polls" any day.
Facts
or the "i always got hot sauce in my bag" one
Hillary was straight up cringe
Exactly
LOL They will never live that down as far as I'm concerned
@@hamadaj8081 the hot sauce quip sends chills down my spine to this day. Painfully out of touch.
If he had only shouted "Unlimited power!!!" after that scream...
I am the senate.
LMAO
Lol
Have you ever heard of the tragedy of Howard Dean?
I thought not.....
It's not a story the politians would tell you.
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It honestly wasn’t a bad speech.
It’s called jumping the shark
who's here straight from Joe Rogan/Andrew Yang?
@@matdan2 Definitely very tame lol, I was not paying attention to the news cycle at this time so this is new to me.
Not being from the US I had no idea what they were talking about... now Im even more confused... was that it?!?
Are you a psychic?
Who's here straight from Joe Rogan/Andrew Yang AND this Hiro Beats comment is the first comment you see?
Me too
That really doesn't sound that crazy anymore. Not in 2020
Big facts lol
Not crazy at all, very racial, I might say
It was never crazy to begin with even in 2004. I never understood why it is such a problem.
It wasn't bad at all... Just sounded like he got a little excited.
Anyone watching in 2024?😅 Geez
He was pretty pationate, and a fitting candidate. I despise the people who ruined his career.
+JokuRandomPoju ruined it? he didn't have a snowballs chance in Arizona of winning anyway. he did that to get attention and it didn't work such is life
Any other country: “hehe that was funny...”
USA: “your life is over...”
Pretty sure everyone was making light of it in the USA and laughing. That was the problem though, he became a joke in people's eyes.
Sounds like he's from a wrestling ring
He will get that intercontinental belt ...eeeaahhhh
@@_baller if bruce buffer ran for president he would get it
@@_baller He's after the US title lmao
@Bruce Wayne Id love to see that
ILL TELL YA WHAT MEAN GENE
Now there's a candidate that yelled "THEY'RE EATING THE PETS" at a nationally televised debate.
Interesting times we live in.
Given today's climate, I gotta say, that looks like absolutely nothing 😂. Maybe I'm a little desensitized.
not a little we are all very desensitized
We all are, lol.
redelgado99 he was ahead of his time 😂
You probably are desensitized, but this is nothing.
I agree it was a huge deal by then when politicians tried to be perfect but in today's climate the exact opposite is true. Now they say and do anything and no one cares
For those who don't know: Howard Dean said in an interview with one of the mainstream media programs in 2003 that he was not going to feed or kneel before corporations, and that didn't sit well with the establishment. So, the first opportunity they got, they destroyed Howard Dean.
***** So I saw an interview Dean did with Abby Martin, and let me tell you, I was wrong about the guy. He was admitting that the things he supports were unconstitutional.. I was speechless. I thought I found a moderate Democrat. Boy was I wrong
lmao. you people still think Dean is a viable human being, I mean candidate for anything. woohoo.
Grey Winters did you see where I said I was wrong about the guy?
Erik Munoz
Missed it sorry. Good move. but is their such a thing as a moderate democratic politician alive any longer.
Grey Winters Sure there is. And there is such a thing as a moderate Republican also. The question I think you're asking is, can moderates get elected?
I watched this on TV as it happened in 2004, from my couch in Austin, TX. If you’d ever watched Howard Dean before this, you’d have been well familiar with his habits of becoming impassioned and loud. I wasn’t even a supporter of his, and I thought it to be nothing I hadn’t heard before. Over the next few days, I was astounded that this was a big deal. More surprising at the time was the fact that he only came in third in Iowa. In October/November of 2003, he was the Dem front-runner.
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I remember that too. I was in FL at the time. Dean is probably the only Democrat I've ever felt bad for.
@@Maxvansteel Al Gore comes to mind, who needed a presidential candidate’s brother and the US Supreme Court to make sure he lost the state of Florida.
@@TravelinBand747 Yeah, I'm one of countless Republicans who regrets voting for Bush. Gore is a globalist wacko, but I doubt he would have turned the world upside down like Bush did. There comes a point where you have to disregard partisanship and acknowledge objective reality.
2004: this guy made a scream? cant have that as president
2016/2024: a president who's xenophobic, racist, narcissistic, habitual liar and frequent cheater on his wives? sounds like my kind of guy, got my vote!
Add in the simulated microphone bj.
Are you saying that Trump only beats women! Bahaha! Funny and true….. hmmm but are they actually women
just a friendly reminder that 2004 is to 2016 what 1988 was to 2000
holy shit. haha, that puts it into perspective
Mr. 2004, I worked with 1988. I knew 1988. 1988 was a friend of mine. Mr. 2004, you are no 1988.
So in 2028 when a candidate lights farts at rallies and wears the North Korea flag as a cape, and can still get elected POTUS, we'll long for the days of normal candidates like Trump and Hillary
By then the US will be a banana dictatorship. No more elections.
Whoa...
this is a lovely scream it's pure joy and motivation
ikr.. fuck humanity
IK!!!! i feel so bad for him
That was pure cringe nothing more
"Howard, would you like me to pick up some dairy queen?" "YEEEAAAHHH!"
Why hello Martin Garrix. Fancy seeing you here and not on Spinnin'.
This was WAAAY overblown. Can't watch this without dying inside at that Dave Chappelle skit though. BYAAAAHHH!
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That Black Bush sketch is HILARIOUS!
BYAAAAAH!
Learn from this kids…This was considered unhinged in 2004. In 2024, we’re completely off the rails. 🤦🏼♂️
People exaggerate this. He came in third in Iowa… he was not the popular candidate to begin with. He pulled this and everyone who didn’t know about him were like “what a freak!”
Wait, where's the crazy scream that caused him to lose? All I saw is him getting excited!
+Noah Borthwick 0:35
Apparently if your voice cracks when you say "yeah!" your campaign is doomed.
Exactly! Whenever I heard this talked about, you would have thought that he had a crazed, murderous look in his eyes and screamed as if possessed. WTF's the big deal, he was excited and energetic, so what?
+Noah Borthwick We lived in different, more polite times then. the bar has been lowered, and lowered and lowered with Trump.
+Noah Borthwick he came in 3rd place in the DNC later that year and pretty much got shut out because of his little girly scream. It ruined him. Then Kerry vs Bush happened. And Bush won. If you're going to feel the bern like a punk bitch at least research your political party. You can feel my nuts on your face. #feelthejohnson
I...don't see what's wrong with this. I don't know much about Howard Dean but he just seems like a passionate and viable candidate and this clip is what screwed him over?
Niuniu Lai , the radio shows morphed the scream. Made it sound really weird. Then that morphed scream was played over and over. Pretty soon thats all every news station was talking about.
cliff elgin That is such friggin bullshit. I mean the radio shows doing that, not you saying it.
Niuniu Lai It was all media. They only focused on the "yeah", made him sound strange, etc.
+Verbin Weaver he is a strange libtard, he still thinks Hillary is going to be president...lol. Heard him say that today.
+Niuniu Lai Check out Breaking bad watch?v=sGN3SBVIjjA haha at 1:07 you will hear "Howard Dean's" Scream :D
2004: Scream kills office election
2020: Best meme of the year and is President.
@The Bounty Hunters right about what?
This doesn't make sense
@@TacosYBurritos8P went he went BYAHH.. so did his chances to be president.. but now meme culture made trump
One man shows excitement and loses his career, another man talks about migrants eating cats and dogs. We have lost our way and are in the stupidest timeline. The ignorance of the general population will be the ruin of this nation.
That's a scream? And it doomed his candidacy? Seriously?
How stark raving insane is this in the era of Donald Trump!!
Leftist are all NPC and have no sense of humour.
@@smug1798 He was a democrat.
Kcuf Hctib exactly....... they’re the ones who stopped voting for him.......
iCourtZ democrats aren’t leftists lmao
@@saschahoupt6177 Who in your opinion are the leftists?
I never understood why this ruined his campaign
@Skippy the Alien How are average Americans getting fucked by Trump's presidency?
@@jdl41 Yeah because having jobs and paying less taxes is Skippy's definition of getting fucked lol
Same with “the Helmet” from Dukakis’s Campaign.
@@sensationaldenny I don't think trump is perfect but he is a hell of a lot better than the last 2 POTUS
@Skippy the Alien it actually didn't crash. everything you're saying is bullshit. The economy is fine and trump will win again and you'll still get to stay angry so congratulations