I recently bought the RP with the 24-240 lens and that is all I need for a full frame travel setup. Yes the lens is big and heavy but I only need that one and I am good. I got the kit for $1500 so it was a great deal. Thanks for the video.
24-240 is big and heavy... Things have certainly changed. I mostly use mine with the Sigma 150-600, and 70-200. Probably would help if I attached some kind of counter weight to the camera - the battery grip would be fine but they want $200 for it.
Im a firm believer in not investing in the 1st generation of a camera.Think how Fuji finally nailed the X-T3 after 3 tries, how Sony nailed the A7III after 3 tries. Theres really not much wrong with either of those unless you're getting super nitpicky. With the EOS R theres still so much to nitpick, but to me the R series will be the camera to beat in a couple years. RF lenses are the future for Canon, they are just way too good and I need a couple more years anyways to be able to afford any of them! haha
I’m not a professional, so to me all (most) cameras today take good photos. My comment is not about the camera, it’s about you, you're as honest as they come when reviewing a camera (or any other product), I don't want to sound condescending, but I’m really proud of you Omar.
I've only been doing photography seriously for the last year, so there are certainly people with more experience than me. That being said, I just did a shootout for the last couple of weeks between the EOS R and the a7iii, both equipped with Sigma ART 35mm f/1.4's, and finally decided to go with the Sony. For pure photography it was a very close battle. I'd give a slight edge to the Canon for colors, but with just a bit of tweaking I could easily get the Sony photos to look the way I wanted them. The three biggest advantages that the Sony has (in my opinion) are the low light performance. ISO 10,000 is completely usable! The autofocus on the Sony is still vastly better (especially in low light situation) even after the Canon firmware update. And lastly, the video features. Not even close. All that being said, I don't think anybody would go wrong to buy the Canon. It really does come down to what's important to you.
@@Jordan_Moore I agree with all your points. Let's note that Canon will get better, then Sony will get better, then Brand __ will get better. It's a great time for developments and consumers.
For us who can only afford 6d mark 1, we're used to it having 1 card slot. Its just a matter of being smart how you back up your files during the event. Been doing weddins and events professionally for 3 years now, I do "Same day Edit" weddings that's why I back up my photos time to time during the wedding. This is my solution for having a 1 card slot camera.
Just wait for the best value to buy. Nikon - Canon - Fuji - Sony are announcing so many camera and the price will drop insanely fast. I just bought a XH1 with Grip for 1000$ and after 1 month the price drop 100$. Remember we marry glasses and date camera.
Picked it up at $1499 with adaptor. Love it! I'm done listening to influencers when a camera comes out. They were wrong about the 6D II and the R. Great review!
For me and I imagine many others, being able to adapt Canon glass without losing any functionality was my number one reason I went with the R. I was very close to switching to Sony though.
@@tvchay that's what’s got me stopping from switching…but came close. I waited for the 1st Full frame to be anounced and when it was i was dissapointed... so that same day got the M50 instead. Waiting for Canon IBIS before I go FF.
I couldn't agree with you more. Sure it's got some great firmware updates recently which made it even better but what is the elephant in the room is that RUclipsrs who are getting sent cameras to test and review are getting them at pretty much ZERO cost and certain individuals are getting the cameras and some lenses at very little cost which of course they are going to make videos with them and "SWITCH" to this system. This whole tech industry has been super flooded with new gear and specs every 6-8 months and it's ridiculous. It's social media advertising at it's best. People buy X camera because they see a RUclipsr using it and they think they can have the same results. What they don't have or lack is "creativity" the "eye" and just knowledge of photography. They play the cameras short comings with some positives in a sales pitch. When the 1dxii was new it was the video and photographers go to camera for the DPAF and the photo speed, and the AMAZING mind blowing 120 fps and 60 FPS in 4k. Now of course the EOS R doesn't have that but hey who needs that when it has 24p LOG in 4k with a HUGE crop! It's all about how it's marketed to the consumer and I think there is just huge influence to drive sales. No there is not BEST camera out there, but specs and people sell the product, and if the specs on paper are not up to snuff then give it some time and people will come around to it. Prime example, Manny Ortiz. He is a DIE hard Sony shooter which is fantastic but lately he's been all over the EOS R. Wonder why? Sure it may fit his shooting style better but I think there is a little silver lining behind it. If I was given a EOS R with a brand new 85mm 1.2 I would make any video anyone wanted regarding the camera and the lens.
Finally a professional that speaks out loud... THAT YOU NEED TWO SLOTS. I Can't understand how a person can call yourself a Pro Wedding Photographer and defend the single slot just because he never had a card failure.
@@AcidicDelusion but they are built so well. I just migrated from Nikon to Fuji. Nikon has wonderful glass, but it always had a plastic kinda cheap feel to me. Fuji glass feels more robust and has phenomenal IQ.
In the last 2 months, the EOS-R has come down from $2299 to currently $1499. I realize it's the holidays and there are sales, but I get a weird feeling they're trying to push a bunch of these out before something new is introduced. If this cam works for you, then it's a great deal! But if you've been on the fence like me, wishing it had a few better features, then the drastic price drop is enough to tell me there may be something new coming and to wait.
You hit the nail on the head. After revisiting this camera in 2021 Canon really pulled a `Canon` and purposely didn't make it too "5d4ish" to prevent it from competing with the 5D4, and furthermore make people thirsty for the next gen R5/R6. Really waste of development with the multi function bar, and imo they purposely created friction by eliminating dials and ease of use which was not broken in their DSLR line up. However, considering they wanted to protect their DSLRs that they were still selling at the time and to make the next gen R5/R6 offerings more compelling, they crippled it. Some basic things that did not require any crazy R&D since it was already available in their DSLRs: button/dial placement, dual card slots, improved evf and overall response (no delay after taking pictures).
I just want to say - first of all this was helpful and very easy to follow, but wow I need to compliment you on your spirit. You just have such a calming, genuine presence and I highly appreciate it. You're funny and intelligent and kind. Thank you!
W Tattoo yea indeed, just waiting to see this version 2 of the EOS R that’s rumored to release in June. I can wait a couple months on making a decision that will be with me for 5+ years.
It's December 14, 2019 and this camera is currently on sale on all the camera sites for $1499, which has come down from $1799 since a few days ago (which initially came down from $2299 for the holidays). The new low price is why (once again) I'm researching this camera. I've been on the fence about getting this camera for a good 6 months now and I keep telling myself "No". I mainly do videography (on a Canon C200) but I've been doing a lot of still photography lately and have been shooting photos professionally this year on a Canon 7D Mark II. And after watching a few videos in my temptations to buy this camera at $1499, my final decision is still "No". I can't let a lower price make me decide to buy a camera that I know will only frustrate me in the end and make me wish I had just waited a little longer for possibly something better or even to finally decide to get the Sony I've been thinking about too. I also have to question why the price on these cameras have dropped so drastically from $2299 to $1499 in the last 2 months. I know it's the holidays and there are sales, but this new sale price of $1499 doesn't seem to be just a temporary sale price since it doesn't have a date or time when the sale ends. The funny thing is when you brought up the "multi function bar" and how it's a little annoying, that's when I finally just told myself, forget about this camera (along with other certain specs too of course)! Once again....... a solid NO for me! Anyway, thanks for the great honest review!
It’s funny to see everyone jumping on canon EOS R bodies stating that it’s a viable option and really amazing, but if you haven’t picked one up with in the last five months don’t bother because new EOS R bodies are coming out soon. it doesn’t make sense to buy something when it will be replaced with better features for the same price point within the next few months. Stating that I’ve had my EOS R body for a little over a year I was impressed with it when I first purchased it and have been even more amazed after the latest firmware updates
Wait for sure! If you purchase now and in 3 month there is an EOS R MkII with sensor stabilization you'll regret it. For me a mirrorless camera is not complete without sensor stabilization. I don't care about a 2nd card slot, but I want a joystick and IS.
that's what I am saying. everyone shoots with hand today. they didn't give it on purpose for first iteration because they will give it as selling point in second, or maybe third in 5 years...yeah, that's how this business works, they let u use mediocre product that frustrates u, then they keep u using it for a couple of years and then they give u incremental update so u r less frustrated and finally release something in 5 years but it will still miss something that they will keep for future upgrades. there is no one complete package camera on the market. let's say popular a7iii. where stupid sony frustrates their user base with no flippable screen for example even tho everybody uses it for vlogging....hahahaha, either their engineers are autistic or they do it on purpose....yet nobody calls them out or boycott's them, where I would because at the end it's not about image but content that we all know and even cheaper cameras do the same job as these high end prosumers, but again they never make a complete package
I love my EOS R, I upgraded from 5D M4 , and haven't looked back pretty much ever since, it of course isn't perfect, and hopefully the next version will sort stuff like crop factor..but there's just something so easy and useful about canon, a thing that's not talk about enough is also the way this camera connects to you phone or even computer, it's just so good and reliable, unlike my x-t3 which takes ages just to do one simple video hd file transfer for me to upload on instagram stories takes ages! Also I never worry about battery life unlike my fuji which I'm constantly bringing 4 batteries just in case, espec ially for video, with my canon I can just decide to bring one extra battery for my daily day to day home shoots!
Same here, my EOS-R is so much more fun than the 5D4. Here is a question: how do you find the image quality of the EOS-R vs 5D4? I never did any tests, but feel my 5D has slightly lower noise and I could push/pull my 5D files more and have less noise/banding than the EOS-R. You?
77dris strangely enough I felt that at times my pics did feel like it look sharper and better at times in the 5d4 and I think it may be because the fact tht with the 5d4 we were less aware of the final outcome via and evf so we weren’t just exposing based on the evf, when u expose on the evf i feel far too often u sometimes forget to look at the real exposure values before exposing cos everthing is based on how good the image already looks in the evf, so at times this may lead to not realising that I have used a slower shutter etc, so the final outcome may have micro shakes which we are unaware of untill we see the actual exposed image again thoroughly, well that’s my own personal opinion on it I guess, but if only there could be a really great hybrid system that can really marry optical and digital evf together that would be so awesome, so having the ability to go full on optical and full on evf on demand haha oh well
Martin Kulik clearly the original commenter is happy. You for your own internalized entitlement feel the need to try and give them a hard time over it. Again this person is happy. Let them be, why try and ruin that because you’re not?
@@martinkulik9466 all the same, it is worth starting with the fact that first of all it is a camera. and then the video. If you are serious about recording video, then you need a camcorder. not a camera with a camcorder function. if you don’t shoot commercials, advertising, etc. and don’t get decent money for it, but shoot for yourself - why overpay? With regards to ibis, it is strange, but in the cameras of previous years it was not and this did not prevent people from creating amazing photos. National Geographic generally accepted photographs taken with such cameras, which by today's standards are simply a shame. and you know, no one died. Of course, its presence would not hurt, but seriously, it does not really solve anything. if you decide to write a video, you will need a stabilizer anyway. plus the presence of internal stabilization gives a slight heating and the suspension mechanism is not so reliable. canon herself said that due to various reasons she did not put it in the p series, compensating for this with lenses with internal stabilization. and last. cameras at the moment at a price of 1500-2000 dollars shoot almost the same. everything else is tweaked for post-processing. you can engage in technodrocherstvo until death and look for "the very camera" and not find it. A professional camera is made not by its specifications, but by the one who has it in his hands. in the hands of a pro - any camera is professional. in the hands of an amateur - all cameras are amateur. give you a $10,000 camera - you won't be able to shoot what they want to put in magazines, etc. give a professional a $1,000 camera and he'll make masterpieces for you. so what you wrote is complete nonsense friend. I’ll tell you a secret - even on a crop without stabilization and other things - they make commercial projects and take pictures in magazines. Did you shoot a lot and how much did you earn?
I suspect Canon is making their new mirrorless bodies cheaper quickly so people step into the rf lens mount system amd that's where the money is going to be made. Like a printer manufacturer selling their printers really cheap and make profit on the cartridges. Akso If you consider the big price difference of the eos r and the 5d mark 4, which has the same sensor, that seems to be their strategy.
Hey man! Do you still think it was worth it? I've got the money to upgrade from 80d to Eos r or mk IV. Just confused on what I should go for? I plan to do video and photography and think Eos r would do that regardless of single card slot. Thanks in advance
Canon got it right with the 30 megapixel size. Not too small, not too big. They can introduce one or two very high megapixel cameras for those that want it. For video, Panasonic full-frame (L-mount) cameras (S1 & S1H) are great, and there are already many L-Mount lenses available from Sigma who are also part of the L-Mount alliance.
i agree for the dual card slot. Many people say 'back in the days, we shoot film and didn't have redondancy'... well back in film days, if there would have been a dual film slot, trust me ALL professionals photographer would have use it!
@Reuel T Well Canon is not the only one offering single card camera with the perofmance and the price of 'only' professionnal activity can justify. I would not be affraid to use a single card camera for any work, as long as I tell my customer that there is a risk that image can be lost or corrupted. But if i have the option i would definetly go for dual cards for redundancy. It just make sense.
@Reuel T Perhaps, but Canon will almost without doubt release the R successor with 2 slots. So clearly, even Canon understands the importance (unless you think the company will do so only to appease critics who won't shut up about it).
Jerome Chatillon Exactly. There was simply no way to do it back then. And, every photographer was in the same boat with no backup and customers understood that. It was a limitation of the hardware that had to be accepted.
I needed to get a new body so i bought the eos rp. I chose the rp body because of the price, firmware update, and it came with an ef mount adapter. i felt it was a better choice than the R since there isnt too much of a difference from the specs. i got extra wasabi power batteries and shot two weddings with it. the camera works great! since i didnt have dual card slots, i backed up files with a wd my passport wireless pro.... i upgraded from a 6d and it feels like a huge one.
The EOS R is a good camera [no perfect] but all this camera really needed was a second card slot. I'm holding off for a newer camera because the one slot is a deal breaker.
If I were to use this for a wedding what are some precautions I could take to make sure my images are safe. I've never had a card fail so I don't know what that entirely means. Is the entire data corrupted or does photos stop writing to it after it fails.
@@justmattgray Hey Matt, it depends, a card failure can result in the card just being dead and nothing can be done or corrupted in which the data can be recovered if you have the right tools. Sometimes it just can't be help if something does happen to the card. As far as precautions to prevent that, you really can't do much seeing that data is only going to one spot. Recently the SD slot on my 5D Mark Iv went bad and can longer write that slot, this also happened during a shoot, thankfully, I shoot in redundancy so I had the same data on both cards.
@@jamalgumbs7518 thanks for responding! You mentioned tools to recover. Are you talking about data recovery software? I've seen some mobile back up solutions like the Gnarbox. If I had something like that I could eject my card and create a copy quickly between scenes. Granted I have time to do so. I plan to tav team weddings with another shooter with the same camera so i don't think redundancy is super important. However, I do fear losing someone's wedding. That sounds like a nightmare. Thanks again!
@@justmattgray You're welcome! You can use software or recovery hardware, albeit they can cost thousands..., or have any card suspect of failure/corruption sent to a recovery specialist. As for the mobile back up solution, that is a good way to secure files on the go but the core issue is in that that 1 card or slot on the camera fails/becomes corrupted before you have the chance to get to the data. I would always want to have the second card slot as it greatly minimizes the chance of losing all the data. I was forced to do a wedding with only the CF card on my Mark IV and I was terrified of a card failure/corruption but I got through without any issue. Even if cameras are still released with only one card, I'd wish that they would use CF or CF express as it is a farm more secure, reliable and durable format over SD which I have had some issues with over the years.
Just bought a used EOS R as my b cam to my R6 after selling my M50 and all my EF-M lenses. I was tired of carrying two lens systems and two batterie types. For someone like me, who does RUclips and smaller corporate gigs on the side, having a second camera body was more important than owning something like the R5 or C70...
I just recently bought this camera and I absolutely love it. I can agree that there are some minor quirks about the camera, but nothing that makes me think or feel that it’s not worth getting. Also, I don’t really mind the Touch Bar. I just have it set to turn on and off the histogram and level. So even if I accidentally press it, which doesn’t happen that often, I’m still getting useful information.
great content omar! I have been a canon kid since 1983 I did jump ship in the late 90's early 2000 for a couple of RZ system. Since have my RZ I have had cards fail three times thank god for slot number 2 or 1 People are nuts when they argue about that I am holding until summer to see what comes out Thank you
The two worst things about the EosR are the low light performance (in video mostly) and rolling shutter (again in video) but it's a great all round cam for RUclips etc. When you bang an Atomos on there and record in ProRes, it becomes a beast!
I actually like the mode solution of the R, as someone who only shoots photo in pretty much aperture prio only. That way it isn‘t just sitting there wasting space but has another function
That's it , you said it right !! Canon , Canon & Canon initially everyone spoke negative about EOS R ... so much hype then now all returning to Canon. One more thing thanks for your video very very informative!!
Great honest statement as always. I was fooled by some other Reviewers who claimed the eye af is nearly as good as Sony, I rented one and it was exactly the same as you said. But main deal breaker for me is the continues shooting performance at a fast pace environment, it drops up to 1 or 2 fps in a soccer game . I wish my A7 3 has the same quality EVF and screen then I would never look back to EOS R
Yeah, I just got an R and am definitely nervous about how it will perform for basketball and birds, which is a lot of what I shoot these days. I will say that the exposure preview is nice. I shot some birds in the back yard and my exposure was a lot better than with my 6Dii. The EVF is just SO unresponsive in continuous. It is going to be tricky to keep anything in it at 600mm.
I have 450D and I've bough 200D a year ago. I love 200D, though I switched straps (450D had wider strap ;-)). I'm ready to throw more money on the thing, but not just yet. I'm glad Canon went into these "new waters" and it's actually doing well so far. But I'm waiting... I've got plenty of time after the recent upgrade (even though it was so cheap) and I'm waiting for things like IBIS, 4K no crop even if I don't need it, perhaps support for HEIC/HEIF/HEIV/H.265/however we call these. Nice video, BTW, I'm glad the Canon sentiment got so much better in the year after R release (for Canon's and consumer's sake as well).
Price drop again to $1500... Here's the thing though, if you're going to invest in a new ff mirrorless camera system the a7iii is just better, and the bulk of the cost is in the glass anyway. Just my $0.02. Personally prefer the fuji still because it's so small and light and fun to use. :)
One thing no one mentions - Internal Memory... there would be no need for a Second Card Slot! Many times have I walked out with my Cameras and forget to put back my SD Card in them... however with my Fuji X-20, which I still Enjoy using, has Internal Memory, and can still take Pictures without a Card.! 32, or 64 Gigs for Internal Memory, one would not need a second card slot, or even worry even with only one! And just simply transfer all the Pics from In Camera to SD Card, and not worry about SD Viruses, or Corrupted Cards!
I got the EOS R because the price dropped. I've always knew I wanted to get into the system because of those amazing RF lenses, so when the price dropped I jumped in. 5D mk IV and some EF lenses for sale now. I do want a better body so will probably get the 'pro' one that has the dual cards, faster FPS, joystick and dial and hopefully IBIS, 4K60, FullHD120 and uncropped 4K (I'll even take a slight crop). I'd probably just keep the R as a second body.
My SD slot on my 5D4 no longer works and it failed during a shoot at that. I practice redundancy when I shoot and that saved me because it allowed me to finish the shoot by having the data on the CF card.
Different audience IMO. Fuji offers best weight to image quality ratio. That’s why, like you , I switched from canon aps-c(t2i) to fuji for family and travel. Still use the canon for portraits with my nifty fifty. Not a pro photographer
After having the camera (two, actually) for several months now, first quickly realized that a big mistake early reviewers made was not realizing that this camera is simply a different animal from the Canon DSLRs. At this point, I don't trust the opinions of anyone who hasn't used it for a few months. It's kind of like the difference between a Brit and an American. The language seems the same at first, but the more you get to know them, the more differences you realize exist. Too many people expect this camera to act like a 5D4. It's just not a 5D4 and shouldn't be expected to act like one. After months, I'm still discovering, "Oh? This camera can do THAT?" One of the latest things I've learned is to put focusing back on the shutter release specifically to shoot stage productions. I've learned to do a finger dance: Left fingers are riding exposure with the control ring as the stage lighting changes in the EVF, right thumb is moving the focus point from performer to performer, right index finger is focusing and releasing the shutter. It's wonderful. I tried going back to a DSLR and hated it. The main thing I want in a new camera is more custom C-modes. The ability to configure this camera for different shooting situations is amazing.
I'm currently on a 7D Mk2, was considering a Sony + Metabones adaptor, but have decided to wait to see what the EOS R Mk2 offers (no hurry really). Currently the EOS R doesn't seem to be quite there for sports.
I've got a serious question. I own a X-PRO2 and a X-T3 with all the good glass (16mm f/1.4, 23mm f/1.4, 56mm f/1.2, and 50-140mm f/2.8). & I was wondering if you think it's worth it to jump ship over to Canon EOS R? I don't own any other camera systems besides the Fuji with all the lenses and I'm trying to get to a more professional level with my photography. I've definitely noticed that the Fuji doesn't perform well at all in low light situations, which has bit me in the ass before while working an event. With that being said I really do like my Fuji system but I'm torn on whether or not if I should jump over to full frame for professional work.
Big problem with on line reviewers is they read the spec sheets long before they touch the cameras. Their opinion is created by a spec sheet rather than actual use of the camera. Classic rater bias. Many reviewers have never used the camera before they review it. Some aren’t photographers and others are to lazy to read the camera manual. The worst are the Oracle of Delphi reviewers that tell you not to buy a specific camera. They presume they know how you are going to use it, rather than giving you the pros and cons and letting you decide what’s best for you.
Hi Omar, where have you been???? Man, this video is so practical and objective. Refreshing.... Couldn’t stop laughing at when you called out those who defends the 1 card slot because it has never happened to them. 100% agree with this but that’s being logical and not emotional or not thinking prevention. I use a A73 for stills and GH5 for video but as a hybrid shooter, I needed a one system setup and since the mythical A7s3 never showed up, I got the S1H and it’s a beast in real world use. It can do everything but as you mentioned when traveling with family or needing the Canon colors, the EOSR fits that need. From my POV, I consider two things when purchasing: buy what you need/want and what you can afford. Forget the marketing pitch on specs and being brand struck. I got a bargain I couldn’t resist on Ebay for $1150 for the EOSR (almost new, open box and the guy is moving to another system and needs the money) even though I know that the 1DX3 and EOSRS bodies are coming out in Feb and Mar’20 respectively. But for sure there is no way they will be priced at these levels. Besides worst case, I can always sell it and upgrade if it makes sense for my needs. The thing that doesn’t get talked much but you mentioned in this video are the prices of the rf lenses. They cost almost or more than the body for each lens except the 35/1.8 and the 24-105/4 kit lens. For pro work where you get paid, you don’t think about it as much but for consumers/prosumers, ef lenses seems like a good alternative and value for money. Would love to see you do a deep dive into how the modes and dials can have quick access on the EOSR. Btw, for the 4k crop, Kinotika talked about the new release of the metabones sb which reduces it down from 1.74-75x to 1.24x if you shoot in this mode. I missed out on the bashing of the EOSR, GH5, etc etc. If camera mfgs are listening, I think it’s more prudent for them to take some more months before releasing to works out the kinks then get pressured from marketing who are chasing consumers/prosumers/pros thirst for latest and greatest specs. I’ve noticed it takes them 1yrs (Canon) and 2yrs (GH5/5s/9) to fix all the things that makes people buy it. In the meantime, those that bought early are frustrated/angry/complain and others won’t touch it. Hurts the brand as there is a trust and reputation issue. Subbed and liked and looking forward to your contents, especially for the EOSR. Thank you and happy holidays!
Saying it's being accused that is bad on specs... it's a bad excuse. It's a mirrorless 5D, and a 5D is not a bad camera. This means besides coming late to the mirrorless party it didn't bring anything new agains't the competition. They cropped the 4k which is the worst/laziest sensor readout and no 1080 fps. For video 5D users wouldn't spend money for an almost equal camera, Sony users wouldn't change due to 4k crop, and Panasonic for lack of IBIS for instance, and there are a lot more reasons not to change. Like Caleb Pike said, this camera was designed for Canon.
Gabi S Oh, come on! You're no fun! Every 6-8 months one manufacturer leapfrogs or equals the others and the "Time to Switch???" videos and viewer comments come rolling out. You can almost mark your calendar to it. Some photographers seem to switch camera systems as often as some people change their socks. It's ridiculous.
It's not a serious option yet. The one thing that makes it a factor is that Canon obviously are going R mount. The lenses are already awesome. What eill happen with continuous development of EF? What donI invest in if I need to? Then again a new 1Dx coming up... Think I 'll just enjoy working knowing that everything available to me ( have / avaiable to buy) will not cripple my output at my (expected) skill level for at least ten years...
At the current price, it's worth considering. Since I photograph landscapes and architecture I do not need the eyes autofocus. A joystick is the only thing I really miss. With the adapter you can start with inexpensive lenses and then upgrate.
in February 2020 the mk2 version will be shown. It is better to wait and buy a newer or current cheaper one. 99% can really wait because the world will not change without a new camera.
Hi Omar Very thorough, detailed review of this new Canon EOS R...thank you! As a landscape and product photographer currently using the Fuji X-System, I'm strongly considering going FF because I print large posters, and though my X-T3 with some very sharp Fujinon XF lenses does give good results at 24" x 36", I believe that I could get even better (sharper) prints with a FF System. My big conundrum, is deciding between the Canon EOS R, R5 or R6 (with the RF 24-105 f/4 L and this RF 80 f/2 Macro, OR the Nikon Z7 System. My question is, have you tested/compared these 2 systems, and can you recommend one over the other, in terms of an improvement in sharpness/detail retention from my Fuji X-T3, in large poster prints? (Just not sure if going with the 20MP R6 would work for very large poster prints) Thank you,
100% agree. B&H is like Disneyland. My poor wife and kids have to deal with me window shopping if we are anywhere near the store. And yes the on/off as well as the menu button are in awkward place. OMG I miss the wheel!! The R is now $1500 at B&H, Adorama....
Even if it have just one card slot and is slow (2-3 pictures per second) it is good enough for me. It's starting to be rather cheap too. But the RF lenses are to expensiv. The only affordable lens is the 24-105 f/4.
I thought that way as well until I went mirrorless. I still have a Canon 7D and when I pick it up to dust it off I can’t imagine going back to the heavy clunky DSLRs.
What about all my high-end EF lenses? My 10D, 60D, 6D ? Those took quite nice photos. You can use many Canon DSLR's as a mirrorless by just using LiveView, no?
I'm still using my 5D!Had it since 2009 so time to upgrade. Looking at this EOS R. I still absolutely love the colours I get out of the camera on my 5D and guess whatever short comings of the EOS R, it will seem incredible compared to the old girl I'm still using lol
I shoot 5dmiii bodies for weddings, Ill be switching to mirrorless on the next model. Personally I was put of by the one card slot, but on second thoughts its okay, why? With the camera you can automatically bluetooth all images to your phone. I have friends who shoot weddings who do this with this camera, and they often do the odd "quick" edit, then text to bride the odd photo for live instagram posts. They actually charge extra for this service, but more importantly they have a back up.
Chris Iclickyou A question of true curiosity (not a challenge) but what size jpegs are sent to the phone? Could they be used as a reasonable finished product if the camera card were to die and the full-rez pictures on the card were lost?
@@anthonyc1883 HI Anthony, sorry for the late reply, happy holidays. Yes you can have the option to export to your iPhone in same resolution as capture ( in FULL ) or in a smaller resolution, your choice.
Just took advantage of the super sale going on now to grab an R with RF24-105 and free adapter. Oye, credit card shocker! But like many, i have a bunch of L lenses i love, have a 77D with flappy screen, and I'm coming from a Canon 6D FF, so expect to be wowwed by how much better the sensor performance will likely be. Now, where's that FedEx truck (face in window, staring out patiently...well, not completely patiently).
Peter Gregg was right everyone dissed him earlier this year for raving about this camera... Peter is the man
You right but Travis Harris a actual working wedding & portrait photographer put the camera to work. From day one said is was really good.
“It’s a Canon... goodnight” lmfao YES! Couldn’t agree more. Not even done watching this video and I’m cracking up 😂
john Biscuit You’re saying don’t buy Canon?
What do you shoot?
I recently bought the RP with the 24-240 lens and that is all I need for a full frame travel setup. Yes the lens is big and heavy but I only need that one and I am good. I got the kit for $1500 so it was a great deal. Thanks for the video.
24-240 is big and heavy... Things have certainly changed. I mostly use mine with the Sigma 150-600, and 70-200. Probably would help if I attached some kind of counter weight to the camera - the battery grip would be fine but they want $200 for it.
Im a firm believer in not investing in the 1st generation of a camera.Think how Fuji finally nailed the X-T3 after 3 tries, how Sony nailed the A7III after 3 tries. Theres really not much wrong with either of those unless you're getting super nitpicky. With the EOS R theres still so much to nitpick, but to me the R series will be the camera to beat in a couple years. RF lenses are the future for Canon, they are just way too good and I need a couple more years anyways to be able to afford any of them! haha
Well said!!!
Agree 100%. I want to get the xh-1, but I have faith that the xh-2 will be amazing. Hopefully...lol
I’m not a professional, so to me all (most) cameras today take good photos. My comment is not about the camera, it’s about you, you're as honest as they come when reviewing a camera (or any other product), I don't want to sound condescending, but I’m really proud of you Omar.
I switched from A7iii to EOS R 3 weeks ago. Couldn't be happier!
@barparildar
please develop .... why from a7III to R.
I'm glad to hear that. I own a crap load of Canon gears and have been debating between the a7iii and EOS R. Which makes you like the EOS R better?
I've only been doing photography seriously for the last year, so there are certainly people with more experience than me. That being said, I just did a shootout for the last couple of weeks between the EOS R and the a7iii, both equipped with Sigma ART 35mm f/1.4's, and finally decided to go with the Sony. For pure photography it was a very close battle. I'd give a slight edge to the Canon for colors, but with just a bit of tweaking I could easily get the Sony photos to look the way I wanted them. The three biggest advantages that the Sony has (in my opinion) are the low light performance. ISO 10,000 is completely usable! The autofocus on the Sony is still vastly better (especially in low light situation) even after the Canon firmware update. And lastly, the video features. Not even close. All that being said, I don't think anybody would go wrong to buy the Canon. It really does come down to what's important to you.
SwanSong How significant is the difference when it comes to low light performance. Thanks!
@@Jordan_Moore I agree with all your points. Let's note that Canon will get better, then Sony will get better, then Brand __ will get better. It's a great time for developments and consumers.
For us who can only afford 6d mark 1, we're used to it having 1 card slot. Its just a matter of being smart how you back up your files during the event. Been doing weddins and events professionally for 3 years now, I do "Same day Edit" weddings that's why I back up my photos time to time during the wedding. This is my solution for having a 1 card slot camera.
Just wait for the best value to buy. Nikon - Canon - Fuji - Sony are announcing so many camera and the price will drop insanely fast. I just bought a XH1 with Grip for 1000$ and after 1 month the price drop 100$.
Remember we marry glasses and date camera.
Picked it up at $1499 with adaptor. Love it! I'm done listening to influencers when a camera comes out. They were wrong about the 6D II and the R. Great review!
Influencers influenced, thats what happend. Thats why the EOS R is more popular now.
$800 price drop and multiple firmware updates helped the most….
ding ding ding!
For me and I imagine many others, being able to adapt Canon glass without losing any functionality was my number one reason I went with the R. I was very close to switching to Sony though.
@@tvchay that's what’s got me stopping from switching…but came close. I waited for the 1st Full frame to be anounced and when it was i was dissapointed... so that same day got the M50 instead. Waiting for Canon IBIS before I go FF.
I couldn't agree with you more. Sure it's got some great firmware updates recently which made it even better but what is the elephant in the room is that RUclipsrs who are getting sent cameras to test and review are getting them at pretty much ZERO cost and certain individuals are getting the cameras and some lenses at very little cost which of course they are going to make videos with them and "SWITCH" to this system.
This whole tech industry has been super flooded with new gear and specs every 6-8 months and it's ridiculous. It's social media advertising at it's best. People buy X camera because they see a RUclipsr using it and they think they can have the same results. What they don't have or lack is "creativity" the "eye" and just knowledge of photography.
They play the cameras short comings with some positives in a sales pitch. When the 1dxii was new it was the video and photographers go to camera for the DPAF and the photo speed, and the AMAZING mind blowing 120 fps and 60 FPS in 4k. Now of course the EOS R doesn't have that but hey who needs that when it has 24p LOG in 4k with a HUGE crop!
It's all about how it's marketed to the consumer and I think there is just huge influence to drive sales. No there is not BEST camera out there, but specs and people sell the product, and if the specs on paper are not up to snuff then give it some time and people will come around to it.
Prime example, Manny Ortiz. He is a DIE hard Sony shooter which is fantastic but lately he's been all over the EOS R. Wonder why? Sure it may fit his shooting style better but I think there is a little silver lining behind it. If I was given a EOS R with a brand new 85mm 1.2 I would make any video anyone wanted regarding the camera and the lens.
Finally a professional that speaks out loud... THAT YOU NEED TWO SLOTS. I Can't understand how a person can call yourself a Pro Wedding Photographer and defend the single slot just because he never had a card failure.
IMHO, canon needs to release some affordable native RF primes, they don't to be 1.2 or 1.4, just like fuji does (something everyone).
True. Maybe Tamron/Sigma will....
Fuji lenses are very expensive considering they're apsc. Canon EF equivalents are much cheaper.
@@AcidicDelusion but they are built so well. I just migrated from Nikon to Fuji. Nikon has wonderful glass, but it always had a plastic kinda cheap feel to me. Fuji glass feels more robust and has phenomenal IQ.
@@JoshuAhillyarD89 hard to find a bad fuji lens even their XC line
RF 50, RF 85, 24 1.8 pls
In the last 2 months, the EOS-R has come down from $2299 to currently $1499. I realize it's the holidays and there are sales, but I get a weird feeling they're trying to push a bunch of these out before something new is introduced. If this cam works for you, then it's a great deal! But if you've been on the fence like me, wishing it had a few better features, then the drastic price drop is enough to tell me there may be something new coming and to wait.
Apart of me wants a canon, but a larger part wants sony. I'll stick with my fuji since I can afford them.
You hit the nail on the head. After revisiting this camera in 2021 Canon really pulled a `Canon` and purposely didn't make it too "5d4ish" to prevent it from competing with the 5D4, and furthermore make people thirsty for the next gen R5/R6. Really waste of development with the multi function bar, and imo they purposely created friction by eliminating dials and ease of use which was not broken in their DSLR line up. However, considering they wanted to protect their DSLRs that they were still selling at the time and to make the next gen R5/R6 offerings more compelling, they crippled it. Some basic things that did not require any crazy R&D since it was already available in their DSLRs: button/dial placement, dual card slots, improved evf and overall response (no delay after taking pictures).
This guy makes me happy every time I watch his videos
This comment made me happy.
@@ogonzilla you make me happy ahaha thanks man.
I just want to say - first of all this was helpful and very easy to follow, but wow I need to compliment you on your spirit. You just have such a calming, genuine presence and I highly appreciate it. You're funny and intelligent and kind. Thank you!
I'm waiting for the new R so this one can go down in price and just snatch one hopefully with a RF Lens
ON sale for $1499 with an adaptor...but yes...wait and it will be sub $1000 some day.
$1214.00 refurbished body from Canon.
Romeo Espinoza I’m considering the same. If it drops another 300. That will be a amazing price for a full frame
1299 after $200 addition bh discount
I'm hoping they come out with more affordable 1.8 lenses like the 35mm. I'm just an amateur. I don't need the pro lenses
Agreed.
Also other non pro lenses like the 35mm needs weather sealing. Don’t understand why the 35mm doesn’t have it.
@@maxvain Nikon z may meet all your needs.
W Tattoo yea indeed, just waiting to see this version 2 of the EOS R that’s rumored to release in June. I can wait a couple months on making a decision that will be with me for 5+ years.
It's December 14, 2019 and this camera is currently on sale on all the camera sites for $1499, which has come down from $1799 since a few days ago (which initially came down from $2299 for the holidays). The new low price is why (once again) I'm researching this camera. I've been on the fence about getting this camera for a good 6 months now and I keep telling myself "No". I mainly do videography (on a Canon C200) but I've been doing a lot of still photography lately and have been shooting photos professionally this year on a Canon 7D Mark II. And after watching a few videos in my temptations to buy this camera at $1499, my final decision is still "No". I can't let a lower price make me decide to buy a camera that I know will only frustrate me in the end and make me wish I had just waited a little longer for possibly something better or even to finally decide to get the Sony I've been thinking about too. I also have to question why the price on these cameras have dropped so drastically from $2299 to $1499 in the last 2 months. I know it's the holidays and there are sales, but this new sale price of $1499 doesn't seem to be just a temporary sale price since it doesn't have a date or time when the sale ends. The funny thing is when you brought up the "multi function bar" and how it's a little annoying, that's when I finally just told myself, forget about this camera (along with other certain specs too of course)! Once again....... a solid NO for me! Anyway, thanks for the great honest review!
It's temporary, check the canon. com, it will end on December 24th 12pm, then will be 1799 again
Plus they just announced that they will make the mark ii soon.
It’s $1499 with accessories on B&H and Adorama now.
expensive for not having stabilization
It’s funny to see everyone jumping on canon EOS R bodies stating that it’s a viable option and really amazing, but if you haven’t picked one up with in the last five months don’t bother because new EOS R bodies are coming out soon. it doesn’t make sense to buy something when it will be replaced with better features for the same price point within the next few months. Stating that I’ve had my EOS R body for a little over a year I was impressed with it when I first purchased it and have been even more amazed after the latest firmware updates
Wait for sure! If you purchase now and in 3 month there is an EOS R MkII with sensor stabilization you'll regret it. For me a mirrorless camera is not complete without sensor stabilization. I don't care about a 2nd card slot, but I want a joystick and IS.
that's what I am saying. everyone shoots with hand today. they didn't give it on purpose for first iteration because they will give it as selling point in second, or maybe third in 5 years...yeah, that's how this business works, they let u use mediocre product that frustrates u, then they keep u using it for a couple of years and then they give u incremental update so u r less frustrated and finally release something in 5 years but it will still miss something that they will keep for future upgrades. there is no one complete package camera on the market. let's say popular a7iii. where stupid sony frustrates their user base with no flippable screen for example even tho everybody uses it for vlogging....hahahaha, either their engineers are autistic or they do it on purpose....yet nobody calls them out or boycott's them, where I would because at the end it's not about image but content that we all know and even cheaper cameras do the same job as these high end prosumers, but again they never make a complete package
well as of June 2020, I will wait for the eos R6, just to see price drop / diffrences
I love my EOS R, I upgraded from 5D M4 , and haven't looked back pretty much ever since, it of course isn't perfect, and hopefully the next version will sort stuff like crop factor..but there's just something so easy and useful about canon, a thing that's not talk about enough is also the way this camera connects to you phone or even computer, it's just so good and reliable, unlike my x-t3 which takes ages just to do one simple video hd file transfer for me to upload on instagram stories takes ages! Also I never worry about battery life unlike my fuji which I'm constantly bringing 4 batteries just in case, espec ially for video, with my canon I can just decide to bring one extra battery for my daily day to day home shoots!
Same here, my EOS-R is so much more fun than the 5D4. Here is a question: how do you find the image quality of the EOS-R vs 5D4? I never did any tests, but feel my 5D has slightly lower noise and I could push/pull my 5D files more and have less noise/banding than the EOS-R. You?
77dris strangely enough I felt that at times my pics did feel like it look sharper and better at times in the 5d4 and I think it may be because the fact tht with the 5d4 we were less aware of the final outcome via and evf so we weren’t just exposing based on the evf, when u expose on the evf i feel far too often u sometimes forget to look at the real exposure values before exposing cos everthing is based on how good the image already looks in the evf, so at times this may lead to not realising that I have used a slower shutter etc, so the final outcome may have micro shakes which we are unaware of untill we see the actual exposed image again thoroughly, well that’s my own personal opinion on it I guess, but if only there could be a really great hybrid system that can really marry optical and digital evf together that would be so awesome, so having the ability to go full on optical and full on evf on demand haha oh well
It a no go without dual-card slots, full sensor 4K. Rumour sites are saying a MK II is only around the corner.
Waiting on that like dog at door.
Love my EOS R, had it for around 10month now. Couldnt be more happy. The RF 35mm is also fantastic
cool enjoy your shaky cropped camera
Martin Kulik imagine being that immature over a camera
@@user-sp5ck4fs1n I am immature over engineers and production managers that always screw something on purpose and never make customers happy
Martin Kulik clearly the original commenter is happy. You for your own internalized entitlement feel the need to try and give them a hard time over it. Again this person is happy. Let them be, why try and ruin that because you’re not?
@@martinkulik9466 all the same, it is worth starting with the fact that first of all it is a camera. and then the video. If you are serious about recording video, then you need a camcorder. not a camera with a camcorder function. if you don’t shoot commercials, advertising, etc. and don’t get decent money for it, but shoot for yourself - why overpay? With regards to ibis, it is strange, but in the cameras of previous years it was not and this did not prevent people from creating amazing photos. National Geographic generally accepted photographs taken with such cameras, which by today's standards are simply a shame. and you know, no one died. Of course, its presence would not hurt, but seriously, it does not really solve anything. if you decide to write a video, you will need a stabilizer anyway. plus the presence of internal stabilization gives a slight heating and the suspension mechanism is not so reliable. canon herself said that due to various reasons she did not put it in the p series, compensating for this with lenses with internal stabilization. and last. cameras at the moment at a price of 1500-2000 dollars shoot almost the same. everything else is tweaked for post-processing. you can engage in technodrocherstvo until death and look for "the very camera" and not find it. A professional camera is made not by its specifications, but by the one who has it in his hands. in the hands of a pro - any camera is professional. in the hands of an amateur - all cameras are amateur. give you a $10,000 camera - you won't be able to shoot what they want to put in magazines, etc. give a professional a $1,000 camera and he'll make masterpieces for you. so what you wrote is complete nonsense friend. I’ll tell you a secret - even on a crop without stabilization and other things - they make commercial projects and take pictures in magazines. Did you shoot a lot and how much did you earn?
I suspect Canon is making their new mirrorless bodies cheaper quickly so people step into the rf lens mount system amd that's where the money is going to be made. Like a printer manufacturer selling their printers really cheap and make profit on the cartridges. Akso If you consider the big price difference of the eos r and the 5d mark 4, which has the same sensor, that seems to be their strategy.
Just traded my mark 4 for this. Pretty happy with it so far.
Hey man! Do you still think it was worth it? I've got the money to upgrade from 80d to Eos r or mk IV. Just confused on what I should go for? I plan to do video and photography and think Eos r would do that regardless of single card slot. Thanks in advance
Shah Rukh Ghumman wait for r5 / r6 if u can. Not much to photograph now.
@@ShahRukhGhumman I am in same dilemma , which one did you buy..?? or are you waiting for R5, R6..?
Canon got it right with the 30 megapixel size. Not too small, not too big. They can introduce one or two very high megapixel cameras for those that want it. For video, Panasonic full-frame (L-mount) cameras (S1 & S1H) are great, and there are already many L-Mount lenses available from Sigma who are also part of the L-Mount alliance.
I said it was great since day one in my videos. Love this camera!
i agree for the dual card slot.
Many people say 'back in the days, we shoot film and didn't have redondancy'... well back in film days, if there would have been a dual film slot, trust me ALL professionals photographer would have use it!
@Reuel T Well Canon is not the only one offering single card camera with the perofmance and the price of 'only' professionnal activity can justify.
I would not be affraid to use a single card camera for any work, as long as I tell my customer that there is a risk that image can be lost or corrupted. But if i have the option i would definetly go for dual cards for redundancy. It just make sense.
@Reuel T Perhaps, but Canon will almost without doubt release the R successor with 2 slots. So clearly, even Canon understands the importance (unless you think the company will do so only to appease critics who won't shut up about it).
Jerome Chatillon Exactly. There was simply no way to do it back then. And, every photographer was in the same boat with no backup and customers understood that. It was a limitation of the hardware that had to be accepted.
I have never watched a RUclips video like this one before, so informative and unbiased and fun to watch, keep up the good work buddy
I needed to get a new body so i bought the eos rp. I chose the rp body because of the price, firmware update, and it came with an ef mount adapter. i felt it was a better choice than the R since there isnt too much of a difference from the specs. i got extra wasabi power batteries and shot two weddings with it. the camera works great! since i didnt have dual card slots, i backed up files with a wd my passport wireless pro.... i upgraded from a 6d and it feels like a huge one.
Yes i should wait for iPhone 33
I don't need another camera, and am super busy, but somehow watched this...and enjoyed it. Must be that OMAR effect. You are a funny chap. Cheers
Thanks so much for watching!!
The EOS R is a good camera [no perfect] but all this camera really needed was a second card slot.
I'm holding off for a newer camera because the one slot is a deal breaker.
Jamal Gumbs agreed!! Same with me I need two card slots, the only reason why I didn’t get it.
If I were to use this for a wedding what are some precautions I could take to make sure my images are safe. I've never had a card fail so I don't know what that entirely means. Is the entire data corrupted or does photos stop writing to it after it fails.
@@justmattgray Hey Matt, it depends, a card failure can result in the card just being dead and nothing can be done or corrupted in which the data can be recovered if you have the right tools. Sometimes it just can't be help if something does happen to the card. As far as precautions to prevent that, you really can't do much seeing that data is only going to one spot.
Recently the SD slot on my 5D Mark Iv went bad and can longer write that slot, this also happened during a shoot, thankfully, I shoot in redundancy so I had the same data on both cards.
@@jamalgumbs7518 thanks for responding! You mentioned tools to recover. Are you talking about data recovery software? I've seen some mobile back up solutions like the Gnarbox. If I had something like that I could eject my card and create a copy quickly between scenes. Granted I have time to do so. I plan to tav team weddings with another shooter with the same camera so i don't think redundancy is super important. However, I do fear losing someone's wedding. That sounds like a nightmare. Thanks again!
@@justmattgray You're welcome! You can use software or recovery hardware, albeit they can cost thousands..., or have any card suspect of failure/corruption sent to a recovery specialist.
As for the mobile back up solution, that is a good way to secure files on the go but the core issue is in that that 1 card or slot on the camera fails/becomes corrupted before you have the chance to get to the data. I would always want to have the second card slot as it greatly minimizes the chance of losing all the data. I was forced to do a wedding with only the CF card on my Mark IV and I was terrified of a card failure/corruption but I got through without any issue.
Even if cameras are still released with only one card, I'd wish that they would use CF or CF express as it is a farm more secure, reliable and durable format over SD which I have had some issues with over the years.
Just bought a used EOS R as my b cam to my R6 after selling my M50 and all my EF-M lenses. I was tired of carrying two lens systems and two batterie types. For someone like me, who does RUclips and smaller corporate gigs on the side, having a second camera body was more important than owning something like the R5 or C70...
I just recently bought this camera and I absolutely love it. I can agree that there are some minor quirks about the camera, but nothing that makes me think or feel that it’s not worth getting. Also, I don’t really mind the Touch Bar. I just have it set to turn on and off the histogram and level. So even if I accidentally press it, which doesn’t happen that often, I’m still getting useful information.
Waiting for XT 4
Meeow Mee APSC...old Fuji lenses...no thanks.
Waiting for R2
Waiting for R2-D2
EOS R need FW 1.4 at least for a usable good EyeAF (!) - In my more or less daily photojournalism it works, even in sports photography on tele-lenses.
great content omar!
I have been a canon kid since 1983 I did jump ship in the late 90's early 2000 for a couple of RZ system.
Since have my RZ I have had cards fail three times thank god for slot number 2 or 1
People are nuts when they argue about that
I am holding until summer to see what comes out
Thank you
The two worst things about the EosR are the low light performance (in video mostly) and rolling shutter (again in video) but it's a great all round cam for RUclips etc. When you bang an Atomos on there and record in ProRes, it becomes a beast!
I actually like the mode solution of the R, as someone who only shoots photo in pretty much aperture prio only. That way it isn‘t just sitting there wasting space but has another function
Got mine new for $1519 and am so excited to dive into this thing when it arrives this week! Thanks for this helpful video!
That's it , you said it right !! Canon , Canon & Canon initially everyone spoke negative about EOS R ... so much hype then now all returning to Canon. One more thing thanks for your video very very informative!!
I’m a left eye guy. I’m worried about my nose changing the touch screen lol
Great honest statement as always. I was fooled by some other Reviewers who claimed the eye af is nearly as good as Sony, I rented one and it was exactly the same as you said. But main deal breaker for me is the continues shooting performance at a fast pace environment, it drops up to 1 or 2 fps in a soccer game . I wish my A7 3 has the same quality EVF and screen then I would never look back to EOS R
Yeah, I just got an R and am definitely nervous about how it will perform for basketball and birds, which is a lot of what I shoot these days.
I will say that the exposure preview is nice. I shot some birds in the back yard and my exposure was a lot better than with my 6Dii. The EVF is just SO unresponsive in continuous. It is going to be tricky to keep anything in it at 600mm.
This is a perfect casual camera...kick up the heat, though? It's scurred.
I have 450D and I've bough 200D a year ago. I love 200D, though I switched straps (450D had wider strap ;-)). I'm ready to throw more money on the thing, but not just yet. I'm glad Canon went into these "new waters" and it's actually doing well so far. But I'm waiting... I've got plenty of time after the recent upgrade (even though it was so cheap) and I'm waiting for things like IBIS, 4K no crop even if I don't need it, perhaps support for HEIC/HEIF/HEIV/H.265/however we call these.
Nice video, BTW, I'm glad the Canon sentiment got so much better in the year after R release (for Canon's and consumer's sake as well).
Price drop again to $1500... Here's the thing though, if you're going to invest in a new ff mirrorless camera system the a7iii is just better, and the bulk of the cost is in the glass anyway. Just my $0.02. Personally prefer the fuji still because it's so small and light and fun to use. :)
Good info. Very helpful. Still undecided what I should upgrade too
This is a wonderful video! Thank you very much for making it and sharing your thought in such an engaging way!
I have 1DX should I swith to R?
noo pictures are weak. no stabilization. smaller package, but hey I know almost nothing about cameras, so dont rely on me
I couldn’t stop laughing during this video 😂 dude you’re hilarious 🤣
One thing no one mentions - Internal Memory... there would be no need for a Second Card Slot!
Many times have I walked out with my Cameras and forget to put back my SD Card in them... however with my Fuji X-20, which I still Enjoy using, has Internal Memory, and can still take Pictures without a Card.!
32, or 64 Gigs for Internal Memory, one would not need a second card slot, or even worry even with only one! And just simply transfer all the Pics from In Camera to SD Card, and not worry about SD Viruses, or Corrupted Cards!
I got the EOS R because the price dropped. I've always knew I wanted to get into the system because of those amazing RF lenses, so when the price dropped I jumped in. 5D mk IV and some EF lenses for sale now. I do want a better body so will probably get the 'pro' one that has the dual cards, faster FPS, joystick and dial and hopefully IBIS, 4K60, FullHD120 and uncropped 4K (I'll even take a slight crop). I'd probably just keep the R as a second body.
Great video! I am sold on the EOS R! How do you light your videos? Natural light or do you use a lamp?
money shouts and not only a card fail i had a card slot fail, luckily i never use one camera and the pix were not affected
My SD slot on my 5D4 no longer works and it failed during a shoot at that. I practice redundancy when I shoot and that saved me because it allowed me to finish the shoot by having the data on the CF card.
"Sorry Squarespace" LOL
RUclips money baby! RUclips money
We actually mentioned "the color" on the same time... Wooooooh!!!
you're relatable. i trust you
just went for the RP, can't wait for a pancake RF lens... currently on EF 40mm 2.8 and EF 50mm 1.4
Different audience IMO. Fuji offers best weight to image quality ratio. That’s why, like you , I switched from canon aps-c(t2i) to fuji for family and travel. Still use the canon for portraits with my nifty fifty. Not a pro photographer
After having the camera (two, actually) for several months now, first quickly realized that a big mistake early reviewers made was not realizing that this camera is simply a different animal from the Canon DSLRs. At this point, I don't trust the opinions of anyone who hasn't used it for a few months.
It's kind of like the difference between a Brit and an American. The language seems the same at first, but the more you get to know them, the more differences you realize exist.
Too many people expect this camera to act like a 5D4. It's just not a 5D4 and shouldn't be expected to act like one. After months, I'm still discovering, "Oh? This camera can do THAT?"
One of the latest things I've learned is to put focusing back on the shutter release specifically to shoot stage productions. I've learned to do a finger dance: Left fingers are riding exposure with the control ring as the stage lighting changes in the EVF, right thumb is moving the focus point from performer to performer, right index finger is focusing and releasing the shutter. It's wonderful. I tried going back to a DSLR and hated it.
The main thing I want in a new camera is more custom C-modes. The ability to configure this camera for different shooting situations is amazing.
Thanks for the great review! I am heavily considering upgrading from my Rebel T6i to this for my first full frame!
Beware. Rumors show a new one may be announced. Wait for that and then pick this up for less.
I’m going to wait. At least until April.
Me too
I bet there wont be a fear of having to send it in for repair like exists in the Fuji ecosystem. That to me makes it worth a look.
Buy ..it...it is much more than its one card slot
I think the issue you have with flash is due to some processing after flash. I suspect red-eye reduction. Older Fuji cameras had this problem as well.
parshua you don't know about camera.
thanks for the review hope to get a new body been using my 400d until now hope to shoot more photos this 2020
I'm currently on a 7D Mk2, was considering a Sony + Metabones adaptor, but have decided to wait to see what the EOS R Mk2 offers (no hurry really). Currently the EOS R doesn't seem to be quite there for sports.
i am a fan of the 7Dmk2. a good value used body plus dpaf and fast AF tracking. still a relevant crop sensor camera. thumbs up.
I've got a serious question. I own a X-PRO2 and a X-T3 with all the good glass (16mm f/1.4, 23mm f/1.4, 56mm f/1.2, and 50-140mm f/2.8). & I was wondering if you think it's worth it to jump ship over to Canon EOS R? I don't own any other camera systems besides the Fuji with all the lenses and I'm trying to get to a more professional level with my photography. I've definitely noticed that the Fuji doesn't perform well at all in low light situations, which has bit me in the ass before while working an event. With that being said I really do like my Fuji system but I'm torn on whether or not if I should jump over to full frame for professional work.
Big problem with on line reviewers is they read the spec sheets long before they touch the cameras. Their opinion is created by a spec sheet rather than actual use of the camera. Classic rater bias. Many reviewers have never used the camera before they review it. Some aren’t photographers and others are to lazy to read the camera manual. The worst are the Oracle of Delphi reviewers that tell you not to buy a specific camera. They presume they know how you are going to use it, rather than giving you the pros and cons and letting you decide what’s best for you.
Hi Omar, where have you been????
Man, this video is so practical and objective. Refreshing....
Couldn’t stop laughing at when you called out those who defends the 1 card slot because it has never happened to them. 100% agree with this but that’s being logical and not emotional or not thinking prevention.
I use a A73 for stills and GH5 for video but as a hybrid shooter, I needed a one system setup and since the mythical A7s3 never showed up, I got the S1H and it’s a beast in real world use. It can do everything but as you mentioned when traveling with family or needing the Canon colors, the EOSR fits that need.
From my POV, I consider two things when purchasing: buy what you need/want and what you can afford. Forget the marketing pitch on specs and being brand struck.
I got a bargain I couldn’t resist on Ebay for $1150 for the EOSR (almost new, open box and the guy is moving to another system and needs the money) even though I know that the 1DX3 and EOSRS bodies are coming out in Feb and Mar’20 respectively. But for sure there is no way they will be priced at these levels. Besides worst case, I can always sell it and upgrade if it makes sense for my needs. The thing that doesn’t get talked much but you mentioned in this video are the prices of the rf lenses. They cost almost or more than the body for each lens except the 35/1.8 and the 24-105/4 kit lens. For pro work where you get paid, you don’t think about it as much but for consumers/prosumers, ef lenses seems like a good alternative and value for money.
Would love to see you do a deep dive into how the modes and dials can have quick access on the EOSR.
Btw, for the 4k crop, Kinotika talked about the new release of the metabones sb which reduces it down from 1.74-75x to 1.24x if you shoot in this mode.
I missed out on the bashing of the EOSR, GH5, etc etc. If camera mfgs are listening, I think it’s more prudent for them to take some more months before releasing to works out the kinks then get pressured from marketing who are chasing consumers/prosumers/pros thirst for latest and greatest specs. I’ve noticed it takes them 1yrs (Canon) and 2yrs (GH5/5s/9) to fix all the things that makes people buy it. In the meantime, those that bought early are frustrated/angry/complain and others won’t touch it. Hurts the brand as there is a trust and reputation issue.
Subbed and liked and looking forward to your contents, especially for the EOSR.
Thank you and happy holidays!
Saying it's being accused that is bad on specs... it's a bad excuse. It's a mirrorless 5D, and a 5D is not a bad camera.
This means besides coming late to the mirrorless party it didn't bring anything new agains't the competition. They cropped the 4k which is the worst/laziest sensor readout and no 1080 fps. For video 5D users wouldn't spend money for an almost equal camera, Sony users wouldn't change due to 4k crop, and Panasonic for lack of IBIS for instance, and there are a lot more reasons not to change. Like Caleb Pike said, this camera was designed for Canon.
Just Went down in price today in US - Now its 1499.99 Great Price. B&H / Best buy
The question is wrong from start. We (normal people) have to stick to one system. Switching systems is just a waste of money.
I'm talking to the abnormal people out there. Hands up!!
Gabi S Oh, come on! You're no fun! Every 6-8 months one manufacturer leapfrogs or equals the others and the "Time to Switch???" videos and viewer comments come rolling out. You can almost mark your calendar to it. Some photographers seem to switch camera systems as often as some people change their socks. It's ridiculous.
Well, actually, exactly at the release of this video, B&H had the EOS R up for 1299$ :D
How? Not 1499?
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It's not a serious option yet. The one thing that makes it a factor is that Canon obviously are going R mount. The lenses are already awesome. What eill happen with continuous development of EF? What donI invest in if I need to? Then again a new 1Dx coming up... Think I 'll just enjoy working knowing that everything available to me ( have / avaiable to buy) will not cripple my output at my (expected) skill level for at least ten years...
Just picked mine up with an EF adapter for $1499 - absolute steal at this price point!
Thanks a lot! I have the 5dmk3 and was thinking about to upgrade or switch to Sony A3.. makes my decision easier!
At the current price, it's worth considering. Since I photograph landscapes and architecture I do not need the eyes autofocus. A joystick is the only thing I really miss. With the adapter you can start with inexpensive lenses and then upgrate.
Moving the focus point using the touch screen whilst your eye is up to the viewfinder is not too bad actually.
Omar.. by the way , you should be a filmstar! Everyone would love you🍀
I have long fingers and I love that multi function bar.
in February 2020 the mk2 version will be shown. It is better to wait and buy a newer or current cheaper one. 99% can really wait because the world will not change without a new camera.
Hi Omar Very thorough, detailed review of this new Canon EOS R...thank you! As a landscape and product photographer currently using the Fuji X-System, I'm strongly considering going FF because I print large posters, and though my X-T3 with some very sharp Fujinon XF lenses does give good results at 24" x 36", I believe that I could get even better (sharper) prints with a FF System. My big conundrum, is deciding between the Canon EOS R, R5 or R6 (with the RF 24-105 f/4 L and this RF 80 f/2 Macro, OR the Nikon Z7 System. My question is, have you tested/compared these 2 systems, and can you recommend one over the other, in terms of an improvement in sharpness/detail retention from my Fuji X-T3, in large poster prints? (Just not sure if going with the 20MP R6 would work for very large poster prints) Thank you,
100% agree. B&H is like Disneyland. My poor wife and kids have to deal with me window shopping if we are anywhere near the store. And yes the on/off as well as the menu button are in awkward place. OMG I miss the wheel!!
The R is now $1500 at B&H, Adorama....
I believe someone said that the eos r was 1299 at one point on some quick sale. I dont live in the states so im not sure. Its 1700€ here in Finland.
Even if it have just one card slot and is slow (2-3 pictures per second) it is good enough for me. It's starting to be rather cheap too. But the RF lenses are to expensiv. The only affordable lens is the 24-105 f/4.
My understanding is that the data rate of the video is pretty damn high 300+ MB/s if I’m not mistaken
Yeah. Messed that up sorry
Hey Omar ! Would you recommend this camera for event photography? Thanks I’m advance. 😊
I can't help but I prefer much more that solid robust ook of dslr like eos 5D Mk4. Am I alone in that?
My wrist problems have gone away tbh. Lol
I thought that way as well until I went mirrorless. I still have a Canon 7D and when I pick it up to dust it off I can’t imagine going back to the heavy clunky DSLRs.
I’m thinking of getting a mark iv but now I’ve seen this one and I’m kind of torn. I wanna start a photography business
What about all my high-end EF lenses? My 10D, 60D, 6D ? Those took quite nice photos.
You can use many Canon DSLR's as a mirrorless by just using LiveView, no?
Oh yeah. I used my 5D4 that way.
I'm still using my 5D!Had it since 2009 so time to upgrade. Looking at this EOS R. I still absolutely love the colours I get out of the camera on my 5D and guess whatever short comings of the EOS R, it will seem incredible compared to the old girl I'm still using lol
I shoot 5dmiii bodies for weddings, Ill be switching to mirrorless on the next model. Personally I was put of by the one card slot, but on second thoughts its okay, why? With the camera you can automatically bluetooth all images to your phone. I have friends who shoot weddings who do this with this camera, and they often do the odd "quick" edit, then text to bride the odd photo for live instagram posts. They actually charge extra for this service, but more importantly they have a back up.
Chris Iclickyou A question of true curiosity (not a challenge) but what size jpegs are sent to the phone? Could they be used as a reasonable finished product if the camera card were to die and the full-rez pictures on the card were lost?
@@anthonyc1883 HI Anthony, sorry for the late reply, happy holidays. Yes you can have the option to export to your iPhone in same resolution as capture ( in FULL ) or in a smaller resolution, your choice.
I just ordered for my channel today because starting today B&H is selling with bundle for $1499
Just took advantage of the super sale going on now to grab an R with RF24-105 and free adapter. Oye, credit card shocker! But like many, i have a bunch of L lenses i love, have a 77D with flappy screen, and I'm coming from a Canon 6D FF, so expect to be wowwed by how much better the sensor performance will likely be. Now, where's that FedEx truck (face in window, staring out patiently...well, not completely patiently).
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