Time Markers: 1:28 - Overview 2:14 - The 6D II 2:46 - Why Two Cameras? 4:27 - What I Needed 6:18 - Canon Options 7:24 - Why the EOS R? 8:00 - 1080p Comparison 8:52 - R Pros 12:20 - R Cons 14:44 - 4K Test 20:57 - What Surprised Me Most 22:18 - The Getaway
Thanks! I love your channel, and have really been enjoying the XA50 comparison videos. We use several for live streaming at work, and I do wonder why they aren’t more popular in the RUclips world.
The opening to your video is pure magic. The music is perfect and your synching with the frames (along with the seamless panning and acrobatics) is great!
I’m amazed on your ability to gather your thoughts and express all your points straight forward without the need of many cuts. Amazing. Just today I spent 3 hours doing a very quick video
It’s tricky, and sometimes people can definitely go overboard with it. It took me a long time to be comfortable with a few cuts here and there on RUclips, but jump cuts are such a norm for the platform that I don’t mind them (within reason).
Lovely and helpfull review! You are actually the first one I could listen to a whole review without getting bored or furstrated. Loved the way you explained, but also you have a calm and honest voice, thanks for the help!
You're, right! People did give a bad review on this camera, but, I looked at the specs and made my own decision to buy it, anyway. I didn't care that it didn't have 4k and a head phone jack for audio. It works, well, for me:)
Great overview. I think your opening comment of "there isn't such a thing as a bad camera these days" is bang on. I've been thinking of buying this cam for a while now and have watched heaps of reviews with a lot of the reviewers bitching about 4K crop, nano differences in bitrate etc etc. In my opinion it's all hot air. A lot of the results of what you get out of a camera is down to the person behind it not what it does or doesn't have. A new camera on the market is "the best thing since sliced bread" to a lot of reviewers... until the next best thing comes along, ad infinitum. Thanks for this review and not dwelling on the nano negatives on this particular model. I may just make the purchase now.
Thanks Andy! Real world usage vs online spec comparisons are often two very different things. I love using the R every time I pick it up- regardless of any “shortcomings” it has.
Really smart how you found a way to make the most of the cropped 4k. My mind instantly went to shooting close ups in documentaries. Great video review 👍🏾
Thanks! I still use the cropped 4K all the time. Of course, most of the in rolled 4K cameras have an option to crop in too, but this works great for me 👍
From what I've seen in some other eos r videos, you don't need to press mode and select video etc to switch to video; if you're in photo mode and press the video record button, it will automatically switch to video and use the latest video settings that you had selected :) edit: aaaand I just saw you addressed this right afterwards hahaha
I like the positive input you give on this camera. So many reviewers talk bad about it but yet keep it which is confusing. Your reviews are amazing, great!
New subscriber, EOS R owner, replaced my 5D mk2. Really enjoyed your review, especially after watching way too many others over time. Bought mine when it came out. Touch bar: right touch - histogram, left touch - level, the swipe: after too many unwanted changes I shut it off recently, will replace it in time w/ something, but I enjoy the touch bar availability. I do love this camera. I did get the kit 24-105, and I really highly recommend it, the RF lenses are stunning, and the 24-105, for me, is my always on lens, and it's just beautiful. O, I'm a photographer, never so far a videographer though I can't think of a simpler set up - the 5D seemed more complicated, might just turn that corner some day soon.
I love the flip screen on my 6Dmii. I’m 6’ tall and when the need of a group picture, I just flip the screen, hold the camera high in the air as far and high posible while looking at the screen in live view, take click the shutter and Voila, the magic comes when I see the group picture images taken at 45degrees angle. The quality and the camera handle, along with the flip screen is a game changer. I own1Ds mark2 5Dmii 7D 80D and my favorite is the 6Dmii.
Terrific video, Enthusiasm Project :)!! I watched the EOS R Short on the Features You Love. And now this! Very informative, very entertaining (loved how you ditched us at the end!!!), and very inspiring. I plan to buy the EOS R! This will be a huge step up from my trusty Canon 6D, which I also love. Thanks for your good work! And I agree with a poster below: you deserve way more followers! You are doing a fabulous job! Please keep making videos for us :)! Scott
This was so helpful!! Thanks man! Came across this searching for a 6D vs EOS R comparison and this was just what I needed haha 😄 Also the ending was hilarious. Good stuff bro!!
Interesting- I’ve always gone by the rule of turning sharpening down to allow for more flexibility in post. But now I’m wondering if they’ve improved the sharpening process in recent years...
One thing that I love about my EOS R that some hate is using the touch screen to change focus points. For me it's more tactile than a joystick would be. I switched from an entry level DLSR (D3300) so it's a huge change either way, but that option is my favorite.
Interesting stuff - thanks - but I have to comment - If you only shoot from behind the screen I prefer a tilt screen like the A73 and Z6 because your aligned perfectly with your subject - not pointed at one angle while looking at about angle.
Maybe the best review for these great cameras. Love how you ignore all these overhyped opinions of people not thinking about what to use the camera for. Thanks!
I just got it as my b cam to my R6 and I absolutely love it. Such a great and fun camera to use. The video specs might be rather unimpressive, but the pictures are super detailed and the camera is so, so easy to use. This is something where Canon excells!
That seems to be the Canon way: boring specs on paper but great results in the really world. This is an awesome companion to the R6, which really does seem to be the R MarkII in many ways.
Been using the EOS R for assignments and so far, the "press record button" to record video has been extremely useful but I do shoot predominantly photos with some video clips occasionally.
That can happen for sure. For me, it turned out that the video bitrate/codec didn't give the results I wanted, even though it could still deliver darn good results and it's ultra reliable. This time of year is perfect for spotting deals on new gear, if you've got the budget.
I totally agree with you about the Touch Bar. I don’t have an EOS R, but I see the usefulness of it. Much like the Touch Bar on the newer MacBook Pros that everyone complains about it, I find it really useful.
It’s funny because I actually really like the Touch Bar in my new MacBook, and I know many people dislike it. I have the touch pad on my R set to control audio levels, which is pretty useful.
@@ReformationsGlassArt No real negatives. Because the 4K crops 1.6, if you use an EF-S lens it "gets rid of the crop" a normal EF would have. Because APS-C sensors have a 1.6 crop compared to full frame. For example if you used the EF 50mm using 4K it would be similar to using a 70mm~, if you used an EF-S 50mm it would remain 50mm using the 4K on the EOS R. This only applies to 4K, you would have major vinette using a EF-S outside 4K function.
'"This only applies to 4K, you would have major vinette using a EF-S outside 4K function" is it possible to use 35mm crop setting in the camera for other settings using APS-C lenses? If so there would be no vignette.
Great video! Having just acquired a 1DX mark II and 5D Mark IV, i'd consider investing in a EOS R for sure. First two cameras run our Wedding and Portrait photography/videography business. I'd invest in an EOS R for recreational use. I'm still waiting for you to come back. haha
I've had the 6d mark i before upgrading to the 5d mark iv and I gotta say 6d models are awesome! haven't had a shot to try out the eos r yet, but great review
A great video and comparison! I'm currently a D800 shooter but looking to get more into video. All the new mirrorless cameras are out of my budget at the moment, which left me with the 6D II. You have confirmed that this could be the perfect camera for my needs.
@@tombuck.... Struggle? Those are the best thumbnails on the entire RUclips platform. Trust ME those aren't just thumbnails that's 100% ART. Way to go. I subbed!!!
Excellent explanation, I have a 6DM2 but in a few months buy the R with the 24-105, with the Canon that the specifications are one thing but in the real world they are wonderful cameras. Muchas gracias desde Argentina.
I didn't try the Canon EOS 6D mark II, but I did use the Canon EOS 6D extensively. I recently bought a Canon EOS R for shooting my RUclips videos, and I must say I have no idea why it's been hated on so much. It's an amazing camera. Yes, it does have a crop in 4k, but that's just a question of what glass you put on it :)
Love my 6D mkII as well. It does the photo part well and other than missing 4k (still decent 1080p with dual pixel AF) its a solid option. The cropped 4k is a disappointment which was one of the main sticking points to not go to EOS R just yet.
Hi Tom, I’m back again 🤣 The EOS R is in a weird market situation here in my region. The Canon official have been doing nothing, but offload its own shopping links from its platform, and the dealers who have the goods increased the selling price, even no gaps between EOS R6... What could I do? Buy R6 instead of R? Afraid of overheating issues on R6
If prices are the same, I think the R6 might be the way to go. You'll have the same great 1080 recording that never overheats, and from what I understand, the regular 4K on the R6 doesn't have issues. It also seems as though the new cameras have gotten better with firmware updates, and there are supposed to be some pretty big updates coming in early 2021.
@@tombuck thanks, Tom. The firmware is a wishful thinking, not the reality. And there’re some reviews on R6, mentioned the image sharpness is not the same as R when filming, even in regular 4K. Makes me wondering perhaps it’s caused by the lower resolution? Hard to imagine R6 is a model for R’s upgrade, as the M1 MacBook Pro situation, only two ports but called itself Pro🤣🤣
I like the touch bar too. I also have mine set to iso - it's amazing! Especially using the adapters. The left touch set to auto iso doesn't always want to work for me though. But the right iso 100 does, so I'm okay. I think I'm using it wrong. I've had lots of Canon cameras and still do have them. But this is my favorite camera by far. I'm happiest with this camera, and glad I went with the r vs. the rp. For the battery... ditto ditto ditto.
I’ve rented the EOS R twice and I LOVE the bar that everyone hates. I have my bar set up for ISO and i love that I don’t have to press an ISO button to use it. I shoot 100-1200 iso all the time and it did change on accident because of my face but it wasn’t something that made a problem for me. This camera has been crazy so far
I'm torn between the two. On eBay, used 6D II's are going for $1,200 while the EOS R is going for $1,800. Do you think the EOS R is worth the extra $600 for making RUclips videos? My concern with the 6D II is that all of the 1080p sample footage I've seen looks unacceptably soft for a camera of that price.
For me personally, the R is worth the extra price. BUT, the 6D really is incredible. Pretty much all of my videos from the end of 2017 through the past month have been filmed with it, so you can judge the image quality for yourself and see if it suits your needs. I would recommend checking out Canon Price Watch for deals. They change all the time, but you can often find brand new versions of each camera for those prices from legitimate stores. Hope that helps!
Hi, I have a theory about the EOS R and why Canon seemed to miss the mark slightly with it - [cropped 4k, single SD card slot, only 30 & 60 fps in 4k & 1080p, M-fn bar... etc]. I believe the EOS R, was built as a test bed for Canon's RF lenses, to ensure they worked and produced the quality of image they wanted; which the reviews of the RF lenses support.
I'll have to disagree. I think Canon could have put amazing specs in the Eos R but decided to limit them like they have done with almost every camera in order to protect the higher cost they'll put on the next camera. Canon has the technology to put 99 percent of all their amazing features in a single camera but refuses to do so because they're more concerned with 💸
I've been considering getting a Sony A7R IV, but I've always used Canon and something is drawing me to the EOS R. It has its flaws, but they really don't seem significant to me. I'm currently still using my 10 year old Canon 7D and am still perfectly happy with it, but really any modern full frame camera is going to be a MONSTER step up. My 7D still gets amazing results and I will always keep it and always use it, but just need to get a more modern full-time camera. Yeh... I think I'll probably end up with the EOS R and spend the extra money on a 16-35 or a 70-200 on top of it. Not buying until mid next year so we'll see what comes out or is announced then, but definitely leaning EOS R now.
The thing that’s toughest to convey with the R is how enjoyable it is to use. It’s definitely not a perfect camera by any means, but now that I’ve had mine for a good 5 or 6 months I still get genuine joy every time I pick it up to use it. And the more I use it, the more I’m impressed with the results I get. There can be such a difference between tech specs on paper and real world experience.
@@tombuck Having a camera that is enjoyable to use is easily more important to me than its raw specs. Of course specs help, but this is why people still use old and outdated film cameras, and Polaroids, and other specialty cameras because of how fun they are. And when you're having fun taking photos, and are comfortable with that tool you're using, it really shows in the results and it seems like people are realizing that about the EOS R, and I'm buying into this second wave of hype haha
I just got a 6D Mk2, and although I love all its functions and find it to take great pictures, it turns out that it's way too heavy for me. Holding it and pressing buttons hurts my hands and fingers very quickly. So I guess I have to look into the R series as they're full frame too but way lighter in weight.
It's definitely a big camera. I think the R5/R6 are about the same size as the 6DII, but the R and RP are smaller. The new R7 and R10 are also compact, but they're not full frame.
@@tombuck I actually got to hold an RP today, it was as if someone had taken a mould of my hands and designed the camera to never have to leave my hands. Pure bliss! I'm definitely replacing the 6D with this one.
It is true that there are no bad cameras these days, there are those with decent spec and those that should have decent spec. Unfortunately canon is the later ! Comparing the 6Dii to eos R is little bias as the eos RP is the mirrorless version of 6Dii and eos R is really a hybrid 5Div. I agree having the same batteries throughout the range is a big bonus. Being a canon DSLR eos 7Dii owner who upgraded from 7D. I invested in large number of decent compact flash cards. The uDii can use both CF and SD I have good choice of cards. If I purchased eos R or RP they are only SD which makes my collection of CF cards redundant. I am looking for LED light panels which are pwered by EP-E6 which I lots off !
It can be so tricky to find something that checks all the boxes we each need! The RP is probably closer to the 6D, but yep, it was the battery difference that turned me away. Seems like an incredible camera though.
@@tombuck Besides difference of battery, no C Log and no 120fps at 720, does the RP feel similar to the eos R or do you see any better image quality or faster focus...
Sold my backup (6Dii today).. My 5Div is miles better, specially in low lights. So I really don’t agree with the 6Dii being good in low lights. Shadows gets really noisy even in mid day. I liked the simplicity and the flippyscreen tho. Thinking of getting a R but I’m not sure yet.
No! No no no! dont leave me bro... NO! Wait, unless you want to give me money to buy an EOS R, then its all good. PS: Intro had a Stranger Things vibe to it, I dig!
Haha, I was actually thinking of you while making this, but don’t worry, I’m still very much on board with the 6D. I mean, even this video was filmed with it 😎
Not every camera is right for every person. But wow, I LOVE the R. I remember getting my first iMac in 2006 and for years I was always so excited to turn it on and use it because it made everything better. I have the same feelings about the R 😮
Woo! I love my 6dmk II as well!! I have rented a 5D MkVi but I actually didn't prefer it! The battery life was really a hindrance to me on an elopement day and the image quality seemed pretty much the same. BUT I just bought a EOS R so I have a second body! Glad to hear I probably made the right choice!
Great video I had similar experience with the eos r. I ended up selling my 6d mk ii mainly because I found myself trying to use swipe focus on my 6d mk ii when I switching between the two during events. So going to either wait for another eos r for xmas or possibly the the "pro" version (price will be a factor).
I had canon 6d, 5d2,5d3,6d2 and selling my 6d2 and keep my 5d3. Why because its better, in low light uncan push the shadows and get all the details and 6d2 is missing, for dailybuse or taking family photos dont have time to change the settings so the photo might be under exposed and here come 5d3 its easy to recover shadows in photoshop and if u do in 6d2 details are notvthere under sdadows, under shadows thre are more shadows. However over all the photos look very good and colorful but try to lift the shadows of 6d2 and 5d3. U will see the difference
You really can’t got wrong with either option. Obviously sticking with one lens mount makes things simpler (and I’m trying to subdue my Canon favoritism as much as I can).
I’ve rented both and loved the Z6 but the XQD memory card, lack of flip out screen, different batteries, and losing the use of my 70-200mm EF lens make it hard to switch.
Great video Tom! I would love to get the EOS R because I am currently running a Canon 40D so the upgrade will be massive. But at the same time think that the EOR R v2 would include 120p video which I would like to use. Certainly, a camera is a big investment for me at this point so would like to pay a bit more but have that in. Otherwise, I'd have to shoot 120p on DJI Osmo Action :D
Wow the good ole 40D! If 120 is what you’re after, I think the rumored “pro” R body will have it, but the price will probably be quite high. Knowing Canon’s release schedule, I can’t imagine them introducing an R II sooner than 1.5 or 2 years from now. We can always hope for a magical firmware update 🤷🏻♂️
@@tombuck haha, yes and, honestly, if they release a fw update with 120fps (what I meant to right, not "p"), I'd buy it immediately. I guess I am waiting for a development in either direction. The 40D is a beast and still works but should upgrade pretty soon :D
Great video! I’ve been using a Canon 7D pretty much since the day it came out, also all around the world never letting me down, and I’m now thinking of upgrading to one of these two purely for photography. I’m more inclined for the 6D MkII because of everything you mention, and the only reason I see of purchasing the R is for its AF capabilities (taking into account the fact that I won’t be using it for video). But seeing that there is a $500 difference in price between the two, I might just stick with the 6D II, as I have plenty of existing glass and wouldnt plan on buying RF lenses any time soon. What do you think?
Oh wow, I really lusted over the 7D when it was released, but never got one. Since the R's price has come down, I'd recommend going for it if you can. Especially heading in to the holiday season, there will probably be some pretty decent discounts happening. Sometimes Canon sells refurbished models on their website for under $1500. Keep an eye on canonpricewatch.com for changes.
Hi Tom! Just discovered your channel. Wondering if you use the Canon EOS R with your ATEM Mini or not for "live" streaming. I have a 6D, but I discovered it does not have clean HDMI output into the ATEM Mini Pro. Just starting to dip my toes into using a video switcher to up my game in ZOOM conferences.
That was a very good review I have the exact same camera and I was thinking about getting the EOS R. My main concern is usability compared to the 6D Mark two. The 16 or two has been very very reliable to me when I do my cinematic broll in my videos. So it makes me somewhat skeptical To switch to another camera even though the EOS R is starting to get a lot of rave reviews. Thank you for sharing your opinion and making this video. I definitely subscribe. Maybe someday we can collaborate.
Even though you bought the eos r the sharpness is just too much it looks too sharp. You have to lower the sharpness all the way down for a more natural look. Try some different settings and see for yourself. Not a hater just another filmmaker. Great video btw❤️
the question i had, has answer through this video, preticulary the battery part, i use 6Dii for about 2 years now and want second camera ... i'm a wedding photographer, before i had the first 6D, reason i upgrade, i'm just want a fast AF during Live View mode, coz i think, Live View AF is more accurate, and when live view, u know the exposure that u want ... That's why 6Dii i called a Hibryd camera, its have the mirrorless Good's and a durability of a DSLR ... Thx very great video
Thx for the reply, And 6Dii causing me become a hibryd shooter too, a fotographer and a videographer, because i learn so much about video settings with 6Dii is a super easy ... the flaw is, the ring dial in the front, next to the shutter release button, its become rough, hard to turn, because the rubber on tip of the ring is loose over time, and if over used, same flaw with 6D mk 1, solution is, when i bought 6Dii, i remapped the shutter speed to the thumb dial, and the ring dial is for apeture settings, coz i change a lot SS than change appeture ... this problem, not just 6D series, but 5Diii too, my friend have 5Diii, and have same issue ... but, its never happen to my 5Dmk2. Thx, sorry if i type too long 😁, i just want to share my experience.
Time Markers:
1:28 - Overview
2:14 - The 6D II
2:46 - Why Two Cameras?
4:27 - What I Needed
6:18 - Canon Options
7:24 - Why the EOS R?
8:00 - 1080p Comparison
8:52 - R Pros
12:20 - R Cons
14:44 - 4K Test
20:57 - What Surprised Me Most
22:18 - The Getaway
I didn't really like the EOS R when I first started using it. But I tried it out again recently and absolutely over the moon about it.
Great video!
Thanks! I love your channel, and have really been enjoying the XA50 comparison videos.
We use several for live streaming at work, and I do wonder why they aren’t more popular in the RUclips world.
Intro music gave me Stranger Things Vibe ☺️
😬 I did find it on Artlist’s “Stranger List” collection.
me too :)
@@tombuck I'm with Artlist - is that a collection - how would I search it.
My main camera for everything I do is the EOS R, and I use the 6D Mark II has a B cam. Perfect combo.
Yes! It’s a dream team for sure. 😎
The opening to your video is pure magic. The music is perfect and your synching with the frames (along with the seamless panning and acrobatics) is great!
Thank you! I was so proud of this one. 😁
I’m amazed on your ability to gather your thoughts and express all your points straight forward without the need of many cuts. Amazing. Just today I spent 3 hours doing a very quick video
Haha, some days it’s easier than others 😬
I hate those who use cuts like that. Not professional at all. That means you're not putting in the working to do so.
It’s tricky, and sometimes people can definitely go overboard with it. It took me a long time to be comfortable with a few cuts here and there on RUclips, but jump cuts are such a norm for the platform that I don’t mind them (within reason).
Lovely and helpfull review! You are actually the first one I could listen to a whole review without getting bored or furstrated. Loved the way you explained, but also you have a calm and honest voice, thanks for the help!
Wow, thank you! That really means the world to hear, I'm glad you liked the video/review!
You're, right! People did give a bad review on this camera, but, I looked at the specs and made my own decision to buy it, anyway. I didn't care that it didn't have 4k and a head phone jack for audio. It works, well, for me:)
What works for you is absolutely what matters most 😎
Great overview. I think your opening comment of "there isn't such a thing as a bad camera these days" is bang on. I've been thinking of buying this cam for a while now and have watched heaps of reviews with a lot of the reviewers bitching about 4K crop, nano differences in bitrate etc etc. In my opinion it's all hot air. A lot of the results of what you get out of a camera is down to the person behind it not what it does or doesn't have. A new camera on the market is "the best thing since sliced bread" to a lot of reviewers... until the next best thing comes along, ad infinitum. Thanks for this review and not dwelling on the nano negatives on this particular model. I may just make the purchase now.
Thanks Andy! Real world usage vs online spec comparisons are often two very different things. I love using the R every time I pick it up- regardless of any “shortcomings” it has.
You should watch 'Camera Conspiracies'. They are ALL bad 😂
(Yes, it's a comedic channel)
This is such an underrated channel. Subscribed!
Really smart how you found a way to make the most of the cropped 4k. My mind instantly went to shooting close ups in documentaries.
Great video review 👍🏾
Thanks! I still use the cropped 4K all the time. Of course, most of the in rolled 4K cameras have an option to crop in too, but this works great for me 👍
This is the first time I’ve told a RUclips to STAY a teacher.
The school system needs you man. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Thanks Cody! I really appreciate that. It’s a pretty terrific job. Exhausting...but terrific.
The Enthusiasm Project 🙏🏼🙏🏼
The new generation is here!
Man, the intro makes me fly. That was some beautiful work!
Thanks so much Josh!
Solid review!! One of the best reviews I've ever seen!! Outstanding job
Thank you very much! I still use the R as my main camera, and in fact bought a second one last summer 👍
Myself is using a 6D2, for photos and videos, I love it so much ! Just do not understand why there are so many negativity towards it.
I don’t get it either, it’s a 100% awesome camera.
Your lighting is dead on. Good work👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Thank you! I appreciate you telling me this truth 🙏
From what I've seen in some other eos r videos, you don't need to press mode and select video etc to switch to video; if you're in photo mode and press the video record button, it will automatically switch to video and use the latest video settings that you had selected :)
edit: aaaand I just saw you addressed this right afterwards hahaha
I like the positive input you give on this camera. So many reviewers talk bad about it but yet keep it which is confusing. Your reviews are amazing, great!
Unfortunately, negativity can sometimes get more clicks, so people lean into it.
The Enthusiasm Project never thought about it like that, very true now you put that in perspective!
New subscriber, EOS R owner, replaced my 5D mk2. Really enjoyed your review, especially after watching way too many others over time. Bought mine when it came out. Touch bar: right touch - histogram, left touch - level, the swipe: after too many unwanted changes I shut it off recently, will replace it in time w/ something, but I enjoy the touch bar availability. I do love this camera. I did get the kit 24-105, and I really highly recommend it, the RF lenses are stunning, and the 24-105, for me, is my always on lens, and it's just beautiful. O, I'm a photographer, never so far a videographer though I can't think of a simpler set up - the 5D seemed more complicated, might just turn that corner some day soon.
I think I’m going to borrow your Touch Bar settings- those are SUPER useful. 👍
I love the flip screen on my 6Dmii. I’m 6’ tall and when the need of a group picture, I just flip the screen, hold the camera high in the air as far and high posible while looking at the screen in live view, take click the shutter and Voila, the magic comes when I see the group picture images taken at 45degrees angle.
The quality and the camera handle, along with the flip screen is a game changer.
I own1Ds mark2 5Dmii 7D 80D and my favorite is the 6Dmii.
Yes! It’s so useful for photography. Absolutely necessary feature in my book 👍
Terrific video, Enthusiasm Project :)!! I watched the EOS R Short on the Features You Love. And now this! Very informative, very entertaining (loved how you ditched us at the end!!!), and very inspiring. I plan to buy the EOS R! This will be a huge step up from my trusty Canon 6D, which I also love. Thanks for your good work! And I agree with a poster below: you deserve way more followers! You are doing a fabulous job! Please keep making videos for us :)! Scott
Thanks Scott! I’m glad the video helped, and I’ll gladly keep making more! 😎👍
Best review yet. I'm looking for my first full-frame camera. I currently have the Canon 7D.
Ahh, nice! There are quite a few options. The R is still a great value unless you're looking for full frame 4K video.
This was so helpful!! Thanks man! Came across this searching for a 6D vs EOS R comparison and this was just what I needed haha 😄 Also the ending was hilarious. Good stuff bro!!
Haha, glad you stumbled across it! Hopefully the quest for a 1D replacement is going well 👍
CLOG is fantastic, be sure to turn your sharpening up in camera, the factory setting gives you a more soft look.
Interesting- I’ve always gone by the rule of turning sharpening down to allow for more flexibility in post. But now I’m wondering if they’ve improved the sharpening process in recent years...
Hilarious ending :)!! Great video, Tom! Very helpful! Thank-you!
One thing that I love about my EOS R that some hate is using the touch screen to change focus points. For me it's more tactile than a joystick would be. I switched from an entry level DLSR (D3300) so it's a huge change either way, but that option is my favorite.
I love that too! I never had a camera with a joystick, so I didn’t get used to it. Love touch and drag AF!
your video is so crisp and colorful. love the vibe of it. Great review!
Thanks! I’m really happy with how this one came out 👍
Interesting stuff - thanks - but I have to comment - If you only shoot from behind the screen I prefer a tilt screen like the A73 and Z6 because your aligned perfectly with your subject - not pointed at one angle while looking at about angle.
Maybe the best review for these great cameras. Love how you ignore all these overhyped opinions of people not thinking about what to use the camera for. Thanks!
I’m glad you appreciated it, thanks for the kind words!
Thanks for giving me such incredible advice to buy my new camera ! In fact The EOS R !!!
I'm so glad it helped! Still my favorite camera, and I still use it every day. In fact, I actually got a second one last summer because it's so good!
@@tombuck Yeah well done ! Tha,k U so much again :p ! See you soon !
I just got it as my b cam to my R6 and I absolutely love it. Such a great and fun camera to use. The video specs might be rather unimpressive, but the pictures are super detailed and the camera is so, so easy to use. This is something where Canon excells!
That seems to be the Canon way: boring specs on paper but great results in the really world. This is an awesome companion to the R6, which really does seem to be the R MarkII in many ways.
Been using the EOS R for assignments and so far, the "press record button" to record video has been extremely useful but I do shoot predominantly photos with some video clips occasionally.
Love the 6D2, would love an EOS-R. One day maybe...
You’re so relatable and love your honest content! I have the 6d Mark 2 and just feel like I’ve outgrown it
That can happen for sure. For me, it turned out that the video bitrate/codec didn't give the results I wanted, even though it could still deliver darn good results and it's ultra reliable. This time of year is perfect for spotting deals on new gear, if you've got the budget.
I totally agree with you about the Touch Bar. I don’t have an EOS R, but I see the usefulness of it. Much like the Touch Bar on the newer MacBook Pros that everyone complains about it, I find it really useful.
It’s funny because I actually really like the Touch Bar in my new MacBook, and I know many people dislike it.
I have the touch pad on my R set to control audio levels, which is pretty useful.
Wow! Like one of the coolest intro's ever!!! and that music!!!!! sooooo goood :D
Thank you! I was so proud of this one. 😁
One way to "get around" the 4K crop would be to use EF-S lens since they are made for APS-C sensors.
what are the good and bad points of doing it this way ?
@@ReformationsGlassArt No real negatives. Because the 4K crops 1.6, if you use an EF-S lens it "gets rid of the crop" a normal EF would have. Because APS-C sensors have a 1.6 crop compared to full frame.
For example if you used the EF 50mm using 4K it would be similar to using a 70mm~, if you used an EF-S 50mm it would remain 50mm using the 4K on the EOS R.
This only applies to 4K, you would have major vinette using a EF-S outside 4K function.
@@anthony2507 thank you for the informative reply.
'"This only applies to 4K, you would have major vinette using a EF-S outside 4K function" is it possible to use 35mm crop setting in the camera for other settings using APS-C lenses? If so there would be no vignette.
@@davidward4045 I'm unsure of this.
Great video! Having just acquired a 1DX mark II and 5D Mark IV, i'd consider investing in a EOS R for sure. First two cameras run our Wedding and Portrait photography/videography business. I'd invest in an EOS R for recreational use. I'm still waiting for you to come back. haha
Ha! Just checking my notes...
But man, the R would be a great addition to that already fantastic setup. 👍
A great review. One of the best ” realistic” reviews I have seen. Thanks.
Thanks Terry!
I have those two exact cameras!! I love them both I love my 6D mkii, I don't care who gave it a bad review . It takes amazing photos.
I've had the 6d mark i before upgrading to the 5d mark iv and I gotta say 6d models are awesome! haven't had a shot to try out the eos r yet, but great review
Thanks! I definitely think the 6 Series is underrated.
Nice to hear your thoughts on the EOS R, it looks like a really good camera. Hope you have lots of fun using it and take some great pictures!
Yep, it’s great, I’m having a ton of fun getting to know it, and the image quality is outstanding (it’s very much a 5D IV in that regard).
Best xplanation on Eor camera so far.tnk you
You’re welcome! 👋
Thanks Tom for this video!! I’m buying my first personal camera and this is the best comparison video I’ve seen on youtube! Great job 👏🏾
A great video and comparison! I'm currently a D800 shooter but looking to get more into video. All the new mirrorless cameras are out of my budget at the moment, which left me with the 6D II. You have confirmed that this could be the perfect camera for my needs.
The 6D II is WILDLY underrated, and the price just keeps getting better.
WHOAAAAA!!!!!! Your videos are FABULOUS!!!!!! Not to mention the thumbnails
Thank you!! I always feel like thumbnails are a struggle, so I really appreciate that!
@@tombuck.... Struggle? Those are the best thumbnails on the entire RUclips platform. Trust ME those aren't just thumbnails that's 100% ART. Way to go. I subbed!!!
I need to frame this.
Wow nice set up. I started watching your video just because the colors of your studio looks cool. Great info also
Glad you liked it (the info and the colors)!
Great video man! Just what I needed!!
EOS R is my dream camera. I've been shooting with my Canon Rebel T3i for 13 years now... Its holding me back lol
Wow! I’m sure you know that camera inside and out and can do some incredible work with it. The R absolutely lives up to the hype!
The T3i was my first camera and I loved it! I'm quite impressed if you've had it for 13 years though, given it only came out in 2011 ;)
I love my 6D and 6D mark2. Fun fact: 6D has the all I but without the auto focus. So good on sticks
I had the original 6D also, but really wanted the flip out screen and autofocus. Otherwise it’s a killer camera for sure.
great vid buddy.. i loved your practical breakdown of the EOS R
Appreciate it! It's an awesome camera and the price has only gotten better.
Very honest and well done review thanks I’m looking for eos r and you just help me on my choice.
I’m glad it helped! I enjoy the R more and more every time I use it.
Excellent explanation, I have a 6DM2 but in a few months buy the R with the 24-105, with the Canon that the specifications are one thing but in the real world they are wonderful cameras. Muchas gracias desde Argentina.
It’s all about the real world performance! Hello in Argentina! 🙏
I didn't try the Canon EOS 6D mark II, but I did use the Canon EOS 6D extensively. I recently bought a Canon EOS R for shooting my RUclips videos, and I must say I have no idea why it's been hated on so much. It's an amazing camera. Yes, it does have a crop in 4k, but that's just a question of what glass you put on it :)
It’s so hard to find a bad camera, and yes, as usual the glass plays a major role in the final result.
I love the Stranger Themes vibe in this video! Great job on this one!
Thanks so much! I was excited to find that music!
Love my 6D mkII as well. It does the photo part well and other than missing 4k (still decent 1080p with dual pixel AF) its a solid option. The cropped 4k is a disappointment which was one of the main sticking points to not go to EOS R just yet.
The 6D is SUPER solid. I still use mine all the time, even with the R (they complement each other nicely).
Metabones speedbooster if you absolutely need it. Or go wide lens.
Great video! I’m switching tomorrow! Btw with the quality of the content that you produce you deserve WAY more followers.
Thanks Emil! I really appreciate that. 😎
Hey Tom Great video, just found your channel because I was lookig at getting EOS R as well
Glad you’re here! The R is outstanding, and now it’s priced really well n
Going for EOS-R mainly for the high quality video output and compatibility with EF-S lenses as i have a bunch of them and the price drop significant
The quality is amazing 🤩
Hi Tom, I’m back again 🤣
The EOS R is in a weird market situation here in my region. The Canon official have been doing nothing, but offload its own shopping links from its platform, and the dealers who have the goods increased the selling price, even no gaps between EOS R6...
What could I do? Buy R6 instead of R?
Afraid of overheating issues on R6
If prices are the same, I think the R6 might be the way to go. You'll have the same great 1080 recording that never overheats, and from what I understand, the regular 4K on the R6 doesn't have issues. It also seems as though the new cameras have gotten better with firmware updates, and there are supposed to be some pretty big updates coming in early 2021.
@@tombuck thanks, Tom.
The firmware is a wishful thinking, not the reality. And there’re some reviews on R6, mentioned the image sharpness is not the same as R when filming, even in regular 4K. Makes me wondering perhaps it’s caused by the lower resolution?
Hard to imagine R6 is a model for R’s upgrade, as the M1 MacBook Pro situation, only two ports but called itself Pro🤣🤣
I like the touch bar too. I also have mine set to iso - it's amazing! Especially using the adapters. The left touch set to auto iso doesn't always want to work for me though. But the right iso 100 does, so I'm okay. I think I'm using it wrong. I've had lots of Canon cameras and still do have them. But this is my favorite camera by far. I'm happiest with this camera, and glad I went with the r vs. the rp. For the battery... ditto ditto ditto.
It’s tough to explain, but there’s something about the R that just makes it FUN to use.
I’ve rented the EOS R twice and I LOVE the bar that everyone hates. I have my bar set up for ISO and i love that I don’t have to press an ISO button to use it. I shoot 100-1200 iso all the time and it did change on accident because of my face but it wasn’t something that made a problem for me. This camera has been crazy so far
Love that you have at least 2 Aquabats posters in the back!
I think there are 8 total throughout the house 😬
Great review. I’m trying to sell my 5d3 and am leaning toward getting the EOS R, this review helped a lot!
Great! Best of luck getting your new camera!
Love my 6DII. It takes beautiful photos but for the work I do the small AF area is frustrating. I hope the EOS R will resolve that issue.
I have definitely noticed a major improvement in AF with the R. And the eye AF is really strong.
just shoot in live view man
Nice review..... that R really grows on you, its fun to use
i find myself going out more
You're exactly right. There's something about it that's just...fun.
I'm torn between the two. On eBay, used 6D II's are going for $1,200 while the EOS R is going for $1,800. Do you think the EOS R is worth the extra $600 for making RUclips videos? My concern with the 6D II is that all of the 1080p sample footage I've seen looks unacceptably soft for a camera of that price.
For me personally, the R is worth the extra price. BUT, the 6D really is incredible. Pretty much all of my videos from the end of 2017 through the past month have been filmed with it, so you can judge the image quality for yourself and see if it suits your needs.
I would recommend checking out Canon Price Watch for deals. They change all the time, but you can often find brand new versions of each camera for those prices from legitimate stores.
Hope that helps!
@@tombuck Awesome, thanks for the reply! I've been following you for a while now.
Your welcome, glad you’re here 👍
That's a great video review!! I'm definitely looking for a new camera in the future - but also, what's your microphone? You sound really good! Cheers
Thank you sir (and thanks for your awesome tutorials)! For sound, I mostly use the Rode Videomic Pro + 👍
The Enthusiasm Project no worries man, thank you - I’ve found a new channel over here to binge on content 👍✨
Hi, I have a theory about the EOS R and why Canon seemed to miss the mark slightly with it - [cropped 4k, single SD card slot, only 30 & 60 fps in 4k & 1080p, M-fn bar... etc]. I believe the EOS R, was built as a test bed for Canon's RF lenses, to ensure they worked and produced the quality of image they wanted; which the reviews of the RF lenses support.
That could be the case. Canon is clearly going all in on RF lenses now, so the experiment must have paid off!
I'll have to disagree. I think Canon could have put amazing specs in the Eos R but decided to limit them like they have done with almost every camera in order to protect the higher cost they'll put on the next camera. Canon has the technology to put 99 percent of all their amazing features in a single camera but refuses to do so because they're more concerned with 💸
ALWAYS WANTED TO KNOW THIS! I HAVE A CANON SL2 AND IDK WHAT TO UPGRADE TO
I've been considering getting a Sony A7R IV, but I've always used Canon and something is drawing me to the EOS R. It has its flaws, but they really don't seem significant to me. I'm currently still using my 10 year old Canon 7D and am still perfectly happy with it, but really any modern full frame camera is going to be a MONSTER step up. My 7D still gets amazing results and I will always keep it and always use it, but just need to get a more modern full-time camera. Yeh... I think I'll probably end up with the EOS R and spend the extra money on a 16-35 or a 70-200 on top of it. Not buying until mid next year so we'll see what comes out or is announced then, but definitely leaning EOS R now.
The thing that’s toughest to convey with the R is how enjoyable it is to use. It’s definitely not a perfect camera by any means, but now that I’ve had mine for a good 5 or 6 months I still get genuine joy every time I pick it up to use it.
And the more I use it, the more I’m impressed with the results I get. There can be such a difference between tech specs on paper and real world experience.
@@tombuck Having a camera that is enjoyable to use is easily more important to me than its raw specs. Of course specs help, but this is why people still use old and outdated film cameras, and Polaroids, and other specialty cameras because of how fun they are. And when you're having fun taking photos, and are comfortable with that tool you're using, it really shows in the results and it seems like people are realizing that about the EOS R, and I'm buying into this second wave of hype haha
Exactly. It’s stuck around even after the hype.
I absolutely love my R. I wouldn't even trade it for an R5. Maybe an R5 mk II.
The R is R-ock solid reliable! Absolutely a great camera.
0:36 epic visual!!!
😬 thanks!
I just got a 6D Mk2, and although I love all its functions and find it to take great pictures, it turns out that it's way too heavy for me. Holding it and pressing buttons hurts my hands and fingers very quickly. So I guess I have to look into the R series as they're full frame too but way lighter in weight.
It's definitely a big camera. I think the R5/R6 are about the same size as the 6DII, but the R and RP are smaller. The new R7 and R10 are also compact, but they're not full frame.
@@tombuck I actually got to hold an RP today, it was as if someone had taken a mould of my hands and designed the camera to never have to leave my hands. Pure bliss! I'm definitely replacing the 6D with this one.
It is true that there are no bad cameras these days, there are those with decent spec and those that should have decent spec. Unfortunately canon is the later !
Comparing the 6Dii to eos R is little bias as the eos RP is the mirrorless version of 6Dii and eos R is really a hybrid 5Div.
I agree having the same batteries throughout the range is a big bonus.
Being a canon DSLR eos 7Dii owner who upgraded from 7D. I invested in large number of decent compact flash cards. The uDii can use both CF and SD I have good choice of cards. If I purchased eos R or RP they are only SD which makes my collection of CF cards redundant.
I am looking for LED light panels which are pwered by EP-E6 which I lots off !
It can be so tricky to find something that checks all the boxes we each need! The RP is probably closer to the 6D, but yep, it was the battery difference that turned me away. Seems like an incredible camera though.
@@tombuck Besides difference of battery, no C Log and no 120fps at 720, does the RP feel similar to the eos R or do you see any better image quality or faster focus...
I haven’t used the RP yet, but I’d expect it to be excellent.
Great review thank you.
You’re super welcome!
Sold my backup (6Dii today).. My 5Div is miles better, specially in low lights. So I really don’t agree with the 6Dii being good in low lights. Shadows gets really noisy even in mid day. I liked the simplicity and the flippyscreen tho. Thinking of getting a R but I’m not sure yet.
No! No no no! dont leave me bro... NO! Wait, unless you want to give me money to buy an EOS R, then its all good. PS: Intro had a Stranger Things vibe to it, I dig!
Haha, I was actually thinking of you while making this, but don’t worry, I’m still very much on board with the 6D. I mean, even this video was filmed with it 😎
love your details!! what lens are you using for this video?
This was filmed with the Sigma 24mm 1.4 Art lens- it’s really incredible!
Every time I feel frustrated with my eos r I watch this video to make myself feel better 🤣 convince myself to keep it
Not every camera is right for every person. But wow, I LOVE the R. I remember getting my first iMac in 2006 and for years I was always so excited to turn it on and use it because it made everything better. I have the same feelings about the R 😮
Woo! I love my 6dmk II as well!! I have rented a 5D MkVi but I actually didn't prefer it! The battery life was really a hindrance to me on an elopement day and the image quality seemed pretty much the same. BUT I just bought a EOS R so I have a second body! Glad to hear I probably made the right choice!
Really useful, thank you
You're welcome! If it's any help, I have two R's now and still use them every day.
CANON is KING! 💪
Great video I had similar experience with the eos r. I ended up selling my 6d mk ii mainly because I found myself trying to use swipe focus on my 6d mk ii when I switching between the two during events. So going to either wait for another eos r for xmas or possibly the the "pro" version (price will be a factor).
I’m definitely still struggling to retrain muscle memory for the buttons when switching between the two. The pro model should be VERY interesting...
Also the flip out screen is able to protect itself
Nice studio and lighting!!!!
Thank you 🙏
I had canon 6d, 5d2,5d3,6d2 and selling my 6d2 and keep my 5d3. Why because its better, in low light uncan push the shadows and get all the details and 6d2 is missing, for dailybuse or taking family photos dont have time to change the settings so the photo might be under exposed and here come 5d3 its easy to recover shadows in photoshop and if u do in 6d2 details are notvthere under sdadows, under shadows thre are more shadows. However over all the photos look very good and colorful but try to lift the shadows of 6d2 and 5d3. U will see the difference
The 5D series are some incredible cameras! But I have had good luck shooting RAW in my 6D 👍
Absolutely fantastic review! I have the 6D Mkii and am struggling between choosing the EOS R or the Nikon Z6.
You really can’t got wrong with either option. Obviously sticking with one lens mount makes things simpler (and I’m trying to subdue my Canon favoritism as much as I can).
I’ve rented both and loved the Z6 but the XQD memory card, lack of flip out screen, different batteries, and losing the use of my 70-200mm EF lens make it hard to switch.
It’s silly, but I can’t get anything without a flip out screen. It has zero effect on image quality, but a huge impact on usability.
Great video Tom! I would love to get the EOS R because I am currently running a Canon 40D so the upgrade will be massive. But at the same time think that the EOR R v2 would include 120p video which I would like to use. Certainly, a camera is a big investment for me at this point so would like to pay a bit more but have that in. Otherwise, I'd have to shoot 120p on DJI Osmo Action :D
Wow the good ole 40D! If 120 is what you’re after, I think the rumored “pro” R body will have it, but the price will probably be quite high. Knowing Canon’s release schedule, I can’t imagine them introducing an R II sooner than 1.5 or 2 years from now.
We can always hope for a magical firmware update 🤷🏻♂️
@@tombuck haha, yes and, honestly, if they release a fw update with 120fps (what I meant to right, not "p"), I'd buy it immediately. I guess I am waiting for a development in either direction. The 40D is a beast and still works but should upgrade pretty soon :D
I remember drooling over the 40D when it came out. It’s a good one!
Great video! I’ve been using a Canon 7D pretty much since the day it came out, also all around the world never letting me down, and I’m now thinking of upgrading to one of these two purely for photography. I’m more inclined for the 6D MkII because of everything you mention, and the only reason I see of purchasing the R is for its AF capabilities (taking into account the fact that I won’t be using it for video). But seeing that there is a $500 difference in price between the two, I might just stick with the 6D II, as I have plenty of existing glass and wouldnt plan on buying RF lenses any time soon. What do you think?
Oh wow, I really lusted over the 7D when it was released, but never got one. Since the R's price has come down, I'd recommend going for it if you can. Especially heading in to the holiday season, there will probably be some pretty decent discounts happening. Sometimes Canon sells refurbished models on their website for under $1500. Keep an eye on canonpricewatch.com for changes.
Hi Tom! Just discovered your channel. Wondering if you use the Canon EOS R with your ATEM Mini or not for "live" streaming. I have a 6D, but I discovered it does not have clean HDMI output into the ATEM Mini Pro. Just starting to dip my toes into using a video switcher to up my game in ZOOM conferences.
I do uise the R with my ATEM. You can use the 6D with Canon EOS Utility for a clean output though.
I felt you love Canon so so much.
Yes.
Hi ,great video, 👍
I have an option to buy R, very well maintained and very cheap but with the shutter count 90k, is this a lot f9r Canon R?
The R is rated for a shutter count of 200K, but if you're using it primarily for video that doesn't matter at all.
That was a very good review I have the exact same camera and I was thinking about getting the EOS R. My main concern is usability compared to the 6D Mark two. The 16 or two has been very very reliable to me when I do my cinematic broll in my videos. So it makes me somewhat skeptical To switch to another camera even though the EOS R is starting to get a lot of rave reviews. Thank you for sharing your opinion and making this video. I definitely subscribe. Maybe someday we can collaborate.
Honestly, as much as I love the 6D, after 7 months, I love the R even more. It’s an unbelievable camera.
The Enthusiasm Project well thank you for that review. It helps me to decide what’s the next best move brother.
First time in the comments section of your channel I loved it
Awesome, I’m glad you’re here! 👍
@@tombuck tnx brother 👊
Even though you bought the eos r the sharpness is just too much it looks too sharp. You have to lower the sharpness all the way down for a more natural look. Try some different settings and see for yourself. Not a hater just another filmmaker. Great video btw❤️
I personally love the crispness, so I’ve been happy with it. I suppose for more color grading/flat profiling it’d be smart to lower the sharpness.
the question i had, has answer through this video, preticulary the battery part, i use 6Dii for about 2 years now and want second camera ...
i'm a wedding photographer, before i had the first 6D, reason i upgrade, i'm just want a fast AF during Live View mode, coz i think, Live View AF is more accurate, and when live view, u know the exposure that u want ...
That's why 6Dii i called a Hibryd camera, its have the mirrorless Good's and a durability of a DSLR ... Thx very great video
I’m glad it helped! The battery life on both cameras is pretty awesome.
Thx for the reply,
And 6Dii causing me become a hibryd shooter too, a fotographer and a videographer, because i learn so much about video settings with 6Dii is a super easy ... the flaw is, the ring dial in the front, next to the shutter release button, its become rough, hard to turn, because the rubber on tip of the ring is loose over time, and if over used, same flaw with 6D mk 1,
solution is, when i bought 6Dii, i remapped the shutter speed to the thumb dial, and the ring dial is for apeture settings, coz i change a lot SS than change appeture ... this problem, not just 6D series, but 5Diii too, my friend have 5Diii, and have same issue ... but, its never happen to my 5Dmk2.
Thx, sorry if i type too long 😁, i just want to share my experience.
6dII its a great camera, i owned one of them but unfortunately poor dynamic range made me sell it.
Love the movie like theme... So unique
Thank you!
I love the ending! lmao
HEAVILY inspired by early Simpsons episodes. 😬