I don't know why, but after you say "Hello and welcome to Joey's Retro Handhelds, I'm Joey", I always expect you to follow with "And these are my retro handhelds"
Nice rotation of devices! I have a 4 device setup (including PC): GB/GBC/GBA - IPS modded GBA SP with everdrive NES/SNES/N64/Dreamcast/DS/PSP - Modded Switch OLED with Android 3DS/GCN/Wii/Wii U/PS2/PS3/Xbox/Xbox 360/Streaming - ROG Ally
For me, one weaker portable handheld for easy stuff and one powerful less portable seems to get the job done (and probably will for most people). Easy stuff - Anbernic 405m. I don’t know why I love this one so much, but the aspect ratio, premium metal feel and Android flexibility just do it for me. Tried others and other options would be Anbernic 35XX or Retroid Pocket flip. But 405m for me for now. Hard stuff - ROG Ally. I started with the Steam Deck (and won’t hate on anyone who chooses it) but even with Emulation Station, I just didn’t find emulating with Linux as easy a setup as on a Windows machine. And while SD kills on battery life on lower TDP, for higher end emulation, the battery life differences start to flatten out between SD and Ally. But you could probably put any Windows/Linux handheld PC here and it’ll be great for you.
I have a similar setup with my RG351P + a hacked Switch and yes; playing GBC games on a 7" screen feels a bit redundant. You don't need a beast of a machine to play something so simple, so a small pocketable device + a powerful covers all bases.
Yep, you can't really go wrong with either an Ally or Steam Deck for higher end emulation and modern games, alongside a smaller Android handheld like a RG405M or Retriod Pocket 3+ for lesser emulation and portability. Both together will cover any 'on the go' gaming situation.
I've been going back and forth on what I was gonna get as my first foray into the handheld market (minus owning an original model switch) and you have convinced me of the Odin 2. We basically have the same computer and I like the idea of having an android device that can moonlight stream some beefy PC games as well.
For me the PSP is my all in one system for old consoles from NES to PS1 and PSP games ofcourse. For me it's the perfect system because of it's size and compact nature. I never play N64, GameCube and PS2 games on the go, only on my computer. Gameboy Advance is my favourite system to play on my PSP because it's form factor is very similar to the OG vertical GBA.
Thanks Joey. Currently I have most of my games running on my Retroid pocket flip. However once I receive my devices I plan to do the following setups: Retroid pocket flip: anything up to PS1, PSP, N64, and Dreamcast. Steam Deck OLED LE: PS2, Gamecube, Wii, Wii U, Switch, some PS3, 3DS, other high end consoles, steam games. Beelink Ser 6 Max for streaming games: PC, switch, PS3, Wii U,any other high end console. There’s some overlap in systems but it simplifies the number of devices but provides flexibility.
For me, one mini portable device (RG300X), and one powerful device (Odin 2) is enough. I may get some flavor devices in the future for specific systems (Arc for Sega, or RGB30 for Gameboy). I lso like playing 16bit systems on a more powerful device, so I can use shaders.
I've kinda just started playing everything on my Ally. Sure, it's kinda big and the battery life isn't great, but man what a versatile handheld it is! 🔥
after i got my odin2, i abandoned my rp3plus, which used to be my main device. the odin2 checked off basically all that i had wanted from a handheld, so after i finally received mine, it easily became my new main.
I'm working on my handheld collection. I have a pocket 2+ but I don't actually like it that much, thumb stick where I want the d-pad and the screen isn't great. Miyoo mini+ in the mail right now. I'm hoping for a ktr1 by the end of the year to fill in all the spots you were using the retroid flip, but I keep seeing different reviewers say how good the flip is and kt gets middling reviews. Also really wanted the loki mini pro to be good but it seems like they killed it since your video
I would honestly like a Miyoo Mini+ and Ayn Odin 2 setup but I already have a hacked 2DS and Vita that can emulate what the MM+ can. The idea of a small portable device like the MM+ sounds fantastic but being able to use bluetooth headphones playing those systems on my Vita is just too convenient to pass up on. What do you think Joey?
Hm, I haven't found Bluetooth headphones to be good on these devices honestly, but also the Miyoo is just fantastic and can usually be had for $30-40 USD. Not a lot of money for a really nice entry with a cool device. I think you might find it hits different than the Vita and 2DS.
@@JoeysRetroHandhelds Yea I like how convenient and portable the MM+ with Onion OS is compared to the Vita with just Retroarch. I'll definitely give some thought into it. Thanks!
I'm super happy with my White Odin 2 Max that was delivered to me on Monday. Maybe the only nit-picking is that vertical shooters using Mame in Retroarch with Integer scaling results in a small playing window. The RGB30 may be an option for this in the near future or just play them on the Steam Deck.
Nothing plays Mario Galaxy (or most of Gamecube) well under $200 in my opinion. You'd have to jump to the Odin 2 Base. The Lite will leave you wanting.
My favorite way to emulate DS is with my RP 2S. The screen is fantastic and the extra function button next to the back and home button is great to use as a screen swap button. And the system can more than handle any DS game I’ve thrown at it.
Great video! Makes me want an Odin 2 more so. I have a 405V. Great that I can play MK Double Dash on it, but so frustrating that I can't get the original looking GameBoy green screen that I could get on my 353V. I miss it!!!
Great list Joey! Tend to agree on almost every pick you had (except I don't have a couple of devices you have) Any particular R4 card you can recommend in 2023 links would be appreciated. I'm 100% in agreement on NDS and 3DS with playing them on original hardware like yourself! :) Thanks!
Ahhh, I wish I knew, I haven't followed that space since I got my R4 cart years ago. I believe twilight works now as a custom firmware option? The 3ds subreddit might be a good resource for that!
@@JoeysRetroHandhelds no clue what twilight custom firmware is but it does sound like I've got some research ahead of me. Reddit is a good call thanks for the idea. I'll head that way. 😎👍
from your video your number retro handheld is Odin 2 to play ps2,GameCube,Wii,3ds,PS1,Saturn. retroid 3plus pocket flip seem to come in second. honestly, older retro games system such as snes,megadrive,gba,nes,gbc and etc. will be good to play using r36s retro handheld or Rg35xx or miyoo mini plus. ps2 emulation only Odin 2 can handle most of the games.
I have a very mixed feelings about flip. First: not pocketable. Second: not comfy with stiff buttons and hard to use triggers and shoulders. Third: the screen angle and view angles. It's weird. It looks cool, Ill give it that. But those problems I listed are kinda making me regret buying one
@JoeysRetroHandhelds I don't know how you did it but in the video, you have basically no stutters at all! On my end, it does stutter every now and then.
Anybody have a good way to play Dance dance ps1 emulation with one of those cheap pads off of Amazon besides my lap top or steam deck on the living room tv for my kids?
@@jjwhy321y3 that depends on your means. I don't consider $400 to be ridiculous or a lot of money. That's also completely besides the point. The point was that he seems to have tons of different handhelds. If you add them all up, it's well over $400. It's infinitely smarter to spend $400 or more and get one handheld that can do everything than it is to buy 10 handhelds that can't do everything and cost well over $400 combined. Also, $400 is the going rate. I bought my Odin 2 Pro from AYN directly and it was $391 including tax and shipping.
@@lf2334 To most people over 400$ is a lot of $$$. Many people live paycheck to paycheck. They keep pumping out cheaper emulators every year. Eventually someone will get it right. The retroid pocket 3 (under 200$) comes close.
I don't know why, but after you say "Hello and welcome to Joey's Retro Handhelds, I'm Joey", I always expect you to follow with "And these are my retro handhelds"
Hah!
Same 😂
Well now he should always do this!
Dude exactly the same. I scripted it out in my head LOL
Nice rotation of devices!
I have a 4 device setup (including PC):
GB/GBC/GBA - IPS modded GBA SP with everdrive
NES/SNES/N64/Dreamcast/DS/PSP - Modded Switch OLED with Android
3DS/GCN/Wii/Wii U/PS2/PS3/Xbox/Xbox 360/Streaming - ROG Ally
For me, one weaker portable handheld for easy stuff and one powerful less portable seems to get the job done (and probably will for most people).
Easy stuff - Anbernic 405m. I don’t know why I love this one so much, but the aspect ratio, premium metal feel and Android flexibility just do it for me. Tried others and other options would be Anbernic 35XX or Retroid Pocket flip. But 405m for me for now.
Hard stuff - ROG Ally. I started with the Steam Deck (and won’t hate on anyone who chooses it) but even with Emulation Station, I just didn’t find emulating with Linux as easy a setup as on a Windows machine. And while SD kills on battery life on lower TDP, for higher end emulation, the battery life differences start to flatten out between SD and Ally. But you could probably put any Windows/Linux handheld PC here and it’ll be great for you.
I have a similar setup with my RG351P + a hacked Switch and yes; playing GBC games on a 7" screen feels a bit redundant. You don't need a beast of a machine to play something so simple, so a small pocketable device + a powerful covers all bases.
Yep, you can't really go wrong with either an Ally or Steam Deck for higher end emulation and modern games, alongside a smaller Android handheld like a RG405M or Retriod Pocket 3+ for lesser emulation and portability. Both together will cover any 'on the go' gaming situation.
Odin 2 win!
I've been going back and forth on what I was gonna get as my first foray into the handheld market (minus owning an original model switch) and you have convinced me of the Odin 2. We basically have the same computer and I like the idea of having an android device that can moonlight stream some beefy PC games as well.
For me the PSP is my all in one system for old consoles from NES to PS1 and PSP games ofcourse.
For me it's the perfect system because of it's size and compact nature. I never play N64, GameCube and PS2 games on the go, only on my computer.
Gameboy Advance is my favourite system to play on my PSP because it's form factor is very similar to the OG vertical GBA.
Thanks Joey. Currently I have most of my games running on my Retroid pocket flip. However once I receive my devices I plan to do the following setups:
Retroid pocket flip: anything up to PS1, PSP, N64, and Dreamcast.
Steam Deck OLED LE: PS2, Gamecube, Wii, Wii U, Switch, some PS3, 3DS, other high end consoles, steam games.
Beelink Ser 6 Max for streaming games: PC, switch, PS3, Wii U,any other high end console.
There’s some overlap in systems but it simplifies the number of devices but provides flexibility.
For me, one mini portable device (RG300X), and one powerful device (Odin 2) is enough. I may get some flavor devices in the future for specific systems (Arc for Sega, or RGB30 for Gameboy). I lso like playing 16bit systems on a more powerful device, so I can use shaders.
I use a Steam Deck and an RG35XX, as well as a modded 3DS and Vita. I'd look into getting an Odin 2 if I didn't have the Deck
Joey, your videos have been top-tier lately and have been unique in their topics. I am loving them plus the fire emblem content 😏.
Thanks my dude! I appreciate it :)
I've kinda just started playing everything on my Ally. Sure, it's kinda big and the battery life isn't great, but man what a versatile handheld it is! 🔥
Steam Deck or ROG Ally would work great for 3DS/DS. Screens are big enough and emulation is very good.
after i got my odin2, i abandoned my rp3plus, which used to be my main device. the odin2 checked off basically all that i had wanted from a handheld, so after i finally received mine, it easily became my new main.
I'm working on my handheld collection. I have a pocket 2+ but I don't actually like it that much, thumb stick where I want the d-pad and the screen isn't great. Miyoo mini+ in the mail right now. I'm hoping for a ktr1 by the end of the year to fill in all the spots you were using the retroid flip, but I keep seeing different reviewers say how good the flip is and kt gets middling reviews. Also really wanted the loki mini pro to be good but it seems like they killed it since your video
Yeah! They discontinued it unfortunately.
We really need a 3:2 device that's actually good.
Thanks Joey, very informative! I'm for sure going to get the Odin 2 Pro after my trip! (Scared it might arrive when I'm away if I ordered now...)
I would honestly like a Miyoo Mini+ and Ayn Odin 2 setup but I already have a hacked 2DS and Vita that can emulate what the MM+ can. The idea of a small portable device like the MM+ sounds fantastic but being able to use bluetooth headphones playing those systems on my Vita is just too convenient to pass up on. What do you think Joey?
Hm, I haven't found Bluetooth headphones to be good on these devices honestly, but also the Miyoo is just fantastic and can usually be had for $30-40 USD. Not a lot of money for a really nice entry with a cool device. I think you might find it hits different than the Vita and 2DS.
@@JoeysRetroHandhelds Yea I like how convenient and portable the MM+ with Onion OS is compared to the Vita with just Retroarch. I'll definitely give some thought into it. Thanks!
I'm super happy with my White Odin 2 Max that was delivered to me on Monday. Maybe the only nit-picking is that vertical shooters using Mame in Retroarch with Integer scaling results in a small playing window. The RGB30 may be an option for this in the near future or just play them on the Steam Deck.
Good video thanks for the info. I’m probably going to get that 140w UGreen, but it looks like the sale is going to start tomorrow
nice video idea 🙂 waiting on my odin 2 and once it comes I'll probably just use that and my rp2s for everything
Which one is the best to play Game cube under the 200$? If it can play Mario Galaxy, even better 😅 I heard the odin lite is pretty good.
Nothing plays Mario Galaxy (or most of Gamecube) well under $200 in my opinion. You'd have to jump to the Odin 2 Base. The Lite will leave you wanting.
My favorite way to emulate DS is with my RP 2S. The screen is fantastic and the extra function button next to the back and home button is great to use as a screen swap button. And the system can more than handle any DS game I’ve thrown at it.
Thank you for including Sega Saturn
I'm convincing myself hard I don't need an Odin 2. But excellent vids like this make it hard 😅
Do it.
Flip is my fav for DS too. But Powkiddy X55 is probably the most affordable option.
Great video! Makes me want an Odin 2 more so. I have a 405V. Great that I can play MK Double Dash on it, but so frustrating that I can't get the original looking GameBoy green screen that I could get on my 353V. I miss it!!!
Sounds like you just want the shader? Here you go www.reddit.com/r/miniSNESmods/comments/8n1hxd/green_shader_for_gameboy_in_retroarch
Great list Joey! Tend to agree on almost every pick you had (except I don't have a couple of devices you have) Any particular R4 card you can recommend in 2023 links would be appreciated. I'm 100% in agreement on NDS and 3DS with playing them on original hardware like yourself! :) Thanks!
Ahhh, I wish I knew, I haven't followed that space since I got my R4 cart years ago. I believe twilight works now as a custom firmware option? The 3ds subreddit might be a good resource for that!
@@JoeysRetroHandhelds no clue what twilight custom firmware is but it does sound like I've got some research ahead of me. Reddit is a good call thanks for the idea. I'll head that way. 😎👍
I have a suggestion what about a Modded dsi for snes/ds/gameboy/nes? You can get them pretty cheap. I’ve seen them for under $40.
from your video
your number retro handheld is
Odin 2 to play ps2,GameCube,Wii,3ds,PS1,Saturn.
retroid 3plus pocket flip seem to come in second.
honestly, older retro games system such as snes,megadrive,gba,nes,gbc and etc. will be good to play using r36s retro handheld or Rg35xx or miyoo mini plus. ps2 emulation only Odin 2 can handle most of the games.
Gba on the flip is amazing.
More importantly, what's your retro achievements username? Got madly into that over last few months. Senorsombrero is mine
It's just JoeysRetroHandhelds :)
@@JoeysRetroHandhelds softcore 😱 expected a man of your ilk to be a hardcore man
No chance at all, I like my save states and cheats wayyy too much.
Can't wait to get my X18s, while I realize the Flip is a far superior handheld, I'm still really excited to join Team Clamshell
No wonderswan color?
I know right? No Nokia n-gage, watara supervision, sharp 68000, or c64 either!
Didn't even cover the Game and Watch line
@@Admiral_Gonzo_III or the TI-83 even though we ALL had one growing up
I have a very mixed feelings about flip. First: not pocketable. Second: not comfy with stiff buttons and hard to use triggers and shoulders. Third: the screen angle and view angles. It's weird. It looks cool, Ill give it that. But those problems I listed are kinda making me regret buying one
Hm, Flip is super pocketable, don't agree on that one!
Can you do a review on the r43-pro its a rgb20 clone with left joystick on top and right joystick on bottom and it has xu10 back curves.
How about Anbernic Arc for classic Sega systems?
Also would like to see what do you play the most on each system.
Fire Emblem and Pokemon, lol
Hey Joey. What is your settings for NFS:MW?
Just default, I don't change anything on my Odin :)
@JoeysRetroHandhelds I don't know how you did it but in the video, you have basically no stutters at all! On my end, it does stutter every now and then.
Did you check my Odin 2 setup guide? Might solve the mystery!
Odin 2 is all you need, no need to buy multiple devices any longer
Also I have a flash cart for 3ds but the Odin 2 does it well enough to be worth emulating to me
what brand of SD card do you use or recommend?
Check my description!
But can the Odin 2 play Kof 95 sega Saturn version ?
Anybody have a good way to play Dance dance ps1 emulation with one of those cheap pads off of Amazon besides my lap top or steam deck on the living room tv for my kids?
Are you sick during the video? You don't sound as happy or loud like usual.
What is retro achievements?
Achievements for Retro Games! retroachievements.org/
No steam deck love?
Zero.
Deck is not "pocket", its like notebook portability.
I can't escape Odin 2 propaganda
Join us.
No Steam deck?
Nope.
Why waste money on all of these? Buy one that can emulate all of them. People have sereious spending problems.
Cause the Odin 2's ridiculous expensive. I just looked up Ebay prices. Half the sellers want 400$.
@@jjwhy321y3 that depends on your means. I don't consider $400 to be ridiculous or a lot of money. That's also completely besides the point. The point was that he seems to have tons of different handhelds. If you add them all up, it's well over $400. It's infinitely smarter to spend $400 or more and get one handheld that can do everything than it is to buy 10 handhelds that can't do everything and cost well over $400 combined. Also, $400 is the going rate. I bought my Odin 2 Pro from AYN directly and it was $391 including tax and shipping.
@@lf2334 To most people over 400$ is a lot of $$$. Many people live paycheck to paycheck. They keep pumping out cheaper emulators every year. Eventually someone will get it right. The retroid pocket 3 (under 200$) comes close.
I think original Hardware is the way to go! Nothing beats the OG. Your Pretend-O handhelds, while amusing, can't touch originals.
if you try to play a DMG gameboy in a dark room you're liable to be eaten by a grue
@@MitchK1989 A risk one must take if purity of gaming is your priority