shame that it is so expensive. Here in the US we do not have many choices, I think that once the electric car manufacturers stop marketing these cars as luxury items, more people will actually buy them.
@@christopherguzzi1316 Er, what?... With the full US Federal Tax Credit ($7,500) a base Tesla Model 3 ($40,240) is $6,320 (24%) more than a base model Toyota Camry ($26,420). But most people (like me) that complain about EV prices also don't qualify for the full tax credit, which means a Model 3 can be as much as $13,820 (52%) more than a Camry. You could almost buy a Toyota Camry and a Nissan Versa for that amount. Even with fuel savings and the full Federal Tax Credit the Camry is still cheaper than the Model 3. However, the Tesla Model 3 can indeed become nearly the same price a Camry in states like Colorado that add on state incentives IF you qualify for both the full state incentive as well as the full federal tax credit. In Colorado that incentive is $5,000, making the Model 3 only $1,320 (5%) more expensive IF you qualify for all EV incentives in that state.
I think there is a market in older generations for the electric Abarth because it's sentimental. I knew a 70+ year old who bought a petrol Abarth 10 years ago. The 500 is a iconic car.
Most new cars are going to be bought/leased by older drivers. That market demographic will continue to age and shrink until automakers eventually get hit with the reality that a sea of crossovers and premium-performance vehicles ends up pricing most people out. Hence the hot demand for second hand where there is not enough plugins. China's electric cars are going to wreak havoc on the auto industry and that's the consequences of western automotive executives.
It’s so nice to see the fun being built into these compact EVs , once the price drops down and more used ones come available, then it a no-brainer for the younger generation …
We had the 1st generation 500E that we bought used here in the states. My kids learned to drive in it and loved it. Unfortunately the AC broke and no one in the area would work on it. It was only sold on the west coast and we bought it used on the east coast, and all the fiat dealers paniced when they saw it instead of just replacing the compressor. Traded it in on an ID.4 when we heard the 500 E wasn't coming to the us anymore. It's a great little car, hope they ship it here.
Agree, engine noise needs gear change simulation. Alternate engine noise would be cool. How about add a handbrake, a fake clutch and fake gear lever, all software mapped?😂
Great review again, love the non serious but informative content, I want this car the sound projection is a great idea at low speeds to assist us cyclists in awareness, most electrics are close to silent and surprise the cyclists at last minute.
Great fun review. I have a 500e and love it but I will be considering getting something with a bit more range soon. I had an ICE Abarth previously and it was great fun. However this, at this price, is not for me. I think you would have to love the badge and look of the car to pay 2k more for this than the MG4 X Power. The MG performance will leave this trailing.
Love it! One of the first electric cars I would consider! The Mini e, the Pugeoet 208 even the Corsa. Makes so much sense if?? Electric is the future. As for the likes of Tesla, Kia etc and yes VW and Audi producing SUV EVs at well over £60 grand! Forget it!
Agree. Cars have stopped being fun. They're now too big, too expensive - and yes, too boring. People have become obsessed with SUV's, and the 'mine's bigger than yours' syndrome that it encourages. Our roads are not shrinking.....the cars now are just too b****y big!! Councils are now having to spend unnecessary amounts of money widening roads so as to accommodate these 'tanks' or 'metal blobs'; and are ruining the streetscape and look of areas as a result. This is money that could (and should) be spent on more important things - like weekly bin collections, instead of bi-weekly which most Councils now have. Because the money is being diverted to road widening. 'Electric' doesn't have to mean 'boring' or joyless - as the current Fiat 500 shows (even though it's a tad on the pricey side); but the car industry are basically not imaginative enough to realise this ....and so churn out ever bigger, and ever blander, sterile cars with each passing year. Maybe the entire car industry needs a total rethink of how cars are designed and marketed....and why we even need such huge cars. Do we? ....I don't think so.
Thanks Guys best electric car review I have seen. Great laugh and you 2 captured the feel of the car😊. I would buy this car after watching this video but I just ordered a EV6 .
I am 60 live in the US we have owned 3 Abarth and love the vehicles. The part of this vehicle that makes me concerned is that it will not have the power and acceleration that the Gas version had. it was a fast, loud, fun vehicle to own. Looking at this vehicles specs, the electric motor seems very under powered to match the gas version. Fit and finish are great, but it it is a turtle, i will have to pass on owning another one. The other problem here in the US is that all of the Fiat dealers closed up so I would have to drive SEVERAL hours to buy one and even worse, get it serviced. That too is a concern.
Looks like a great little car for tight roads and European cities, yet nimble and sporty enough for quick jaunts out of the city... I drove an early (small) honda civic hatchback for years and really enjoyed it for getting about, this would probably do fine as a replacement. A bit out of my price range now, but I could see doing a fractional purchase or it being part of a "electric club car fleet". It got me thinking that it would be kind of fun to have an Electroheads club, perhaps with a club card(visa) that offered deals/discounts on eProducts and an App to help find the right gear. Might be a way to help some customers make payments on bikes as well.
Don't leave her in the boot. Because I like to watch all the e-bike reviews. I watched the Eskuta review that you did. I have a good friend who took me to Nuneaton where they are assembled. I had a test drive in there car park. And because I liked it so much, I have paid for it in full I'm waiting for delivery soon. The Eskuta sx250 series iii is a brilliant piece of kit. For your reference I'm 71 but look and act like I'm 51. All the best to the team. 😀👍
Brilliant little car but like all EVs expensive. Having read that now they are saying that EVs are not going to deliver zero emissions and if the UK was to meet all its targets the difference globally will be 0.044%. Thus at the age of 73.5 my last car purchase will be petrol.
I’m in the same boat at 64.5. Just got an Odyssey (petrol) to carry teens and elderly family across the ‘States from Iowa to Florida and back, and this week Iowa to Seattle then back via Missoula - and all five of us plus luggage barely fit!!! Would love an electric passenger van, but none are readily available in the US, and I honestly shudder at the potential cost. We’re only poor artists and teachers, and $200,000 used to be the price of a pretty fancy house across the lake from Prince’s place.
Interesting review of a fun car, Abarth is pulling in their favours, reputationally in charging (ha!) so much for this tiny machine. No, no, thrice no, no external loudspeaker-driven fake ICE engine noises to pollute the environment, keep the speakers inside to entertain the driver (like the Fiesta ST). One good thing about EVs is their motor silence, which will benefit society, big time. Love the boot test- this is a classic, so impressive to see you fold into that tiny space.
In Australia the mg4 cost from 39k, other Chinese base models are mid 40k. So pretty exy here compared to the UK. Could still be worth it for petrol and service savings.
34k for this thing is insane, given that despite how cool it is, its still small, it only has a 42kwh battery and 160ish hp. It takes alot of work to design a fun car but to mass produce one with such limited specs is not expensive.
Loved your unique presentation... i own and love my Abarth 595 Scorpioneoro and was really looking forward to eventually replacing it with this new model, BUT with an ICE engine, i get the idea of a sporty town car EV and it could work for me but not at over 10k more than a petrol equivalent..
It's a slap in the face for common sense not the car industry. Stupidly expensive novelty items have been around for years but most people live in the real world.
Yes, we're having fun! :D And stop calling this not a review! It's a great review! I'd rather watch you review all different Abarth colours in separate videos than watch another SUV "review", i.e. commercial. Oh, it's proper expensive... I understand that electric cars are lighter on maintenance costs, but you can't explain this to your bank manager when you can't afford a bigger loan...
No desire to get one of these (even if I had the money) but Loved the review. I feel the music should be from BAND-MAID though. Cute on the outside, heavy on the inside.
Hmm. A bit like buying an exact copy made by Fender of Rory Gallagher's battered Stratocaster guitar. It looks like and (if you're skilled enough) sounds like Rory Gallagher's guitar. But it's not the real thing. But hey, back to the Abarth 500e. Can't deny. It does look way cool.
I personally won't be buying an electric until its way more affordable and I don't think they should ever add a sound. If it was my car it would be turned off I love my vivaro-e work van because of how quiet it is
Hmm, I like it. Not at that price though. Still, all of my friends (and my girlfriend and me too) are over 6 ft ... But come on, that price! And 154 hp is still a bit meh? The Fiat 500 Abarth petrol was 180+ bhp and it's lighter... Such a pity....
The video should have ended with Eilis in there and we would see her come out of a different car at the beginning of the review of that different car. I suppose my comment is a suggestion for a new video idea: continuity across (some) videos.
For 70%? Of ev buyers this sounds like a joke. But: JP, the most seen tuner on YT in Germany and Porsche fan tested a prototype of the Ioniq 6N. It has sound and artificial gears and he had a blast...
Love the idea of the car. Personally dont need or want the sound…and if it brings some ICE drivers into the car as they would otherwise miss the sound then bring it on!
😅 I'm old love the look of it love small fun cars ... but rwd or AWD and zoooom I would need more zooom and definitely would change the noise for more. something like a spaceship noise. not a stinky toxic ice car noise yuk 😂😂✨😂
The last thing this world needs is more noise. It creates stress in people and animals. People are already having a difficult time coping with current levels of noise pollution. The world would benefit from small, affordable, non-polluting cars. Unnecessary vehicle noise should be banned, because it impacts everyone forced to be in the vicinity of the car, not just its driver.
shame that it is so expensive. Here in the US we do not have many choices, I think that once the electric car manufacturers stop marketing these cars as luxury items, more people will actually buy them.
A Tesla Model 3 is about the same price as a Toyota Camry if you consider the $7,500 tax incentive.
@@christopherguzzi1316 Er, what?... With the full US Federal Tax Credit ($7,500) a base Tesla Model 3 ($40,240) is $6,320 (24%) more than a base model Toyota Camry ($26,420). But most people (like me) that complain about EV prices also don't qualify for the full tax credit, which means a Model 3 can be as much as $13,820 (52%) more than a Camry. You could almost buy a Toyota Camry and a Nissan Versa for that amount. Even with fuel savings and the full Federal Tax Credit the Camry is still cheaper than the Model 3.
However, the Tesla Model 3 can indeed become nearly the same price a Camry in states like Colorado that add on state incentives IF you qualify for both the full state incentive as well as the full federal tax credit. In Colorado that incentive is $5,000, making the Model 3 only $1,320 (5%) more expensive IF you qualify for all EV incentives in that state.
I think there is a market in older generations for the electric Abarth because it's sentimental. I knew a 70+ year old who bought a petrol Abarth 10 years ago. The 500 is a iconic car.
Most new cars are going to be bought/leased by older drivers. That market demographic will continue to age and shrink until automakers eventually get hit with the reality that a sea of crossovers and premium-performance vehicles ends up pricing most people out. Hence the hot demand for second hand where there is not enough plugins.
China's electric cars are going to wreak havoc on the auto industry and that's the consequences of western automotive executives.
Great little car. I wish the US would get more vehicles like this. So tired of seeing big SUVs and pickups all over the place.
Totally agree. We need some more diversity up in here!
Loved the review!! First time I've come across your channel!! Great energy and charisma!! Great car!! I want one... in Acid Green!!👍🙂
It’s the first time I have felt even the remotest feeling of interest in an EV. Possibly just because I like Fiat and Italian cars generally.
It’s so nice to see the fun being built into these compact EVs , once the price drops down and more used ones come available, then it a no-brainer for the younger generation …
Nice to see Eilis reviewing more cars, especially compacts.
nah, it's just always nice to see Eilis regardless 😅
Beautiful little jewel.
The ideal daily drive for wealthy customers.
Hilarious review of a gorgeous looking machine. I nearly killed it when the price tag came up, omg! Thanks for a fun review, molto bene, ciao ciao.
grazie mille!!!
Lovely and I want one! 😍All I need now is the cash! BTW, I'm 76 so it's not just for you youngsters. 😁
Abarths for all!!!
It is ridiculous. £34K for something like that🤯. No way. MG4 for the win and it's almost £10k cheaper with a better range.
Just had a look on auto trader now 37,794 or a nice Cabriolet version is nearly 42k, there having a laugh lol
We had the 1st generation 500E that we bought used here in the states. My kids learned to drive in it and loved it. Unfortunately the AC broke and no one in the area would work on it. It was only sold on the west coast and we bought it used on the east coast, and all the fiat dealers paniced when they saw it instead of just replacing the compressor. Traded it in on an ID.4 when we heard the 500 E wasn't coming to the us anymore.
It's a great little car, hope they ship it here.
Agree, engine noise needs gear change simulation.
Alternate engine noise would be cool. How about add a handbrake, a fake clutch and fake gear lever, all software mapped?😂
ooh, that would been cool.
I wait for the Fiat Panda E 4x4. 😎
I don’t think the sound is gimmicky,in fact it gives the car “realness” ,borla have a sound generator for the gt that sounds like a real muscle car.
Great review again, love the non serious but informative content, I want this car the sound projection is a great idea at low speeds to assist us cyclists in awareness, most electrics are close to silent and surprise the cyclists at last minute.
You guys are definitely a trip! Funny and love how you present your content. Never boring thats for sure
Thanks so much!! It means a lot
I previously owned a petrol Abarth which I loved. Just got the new 500e Abarth and it’s a fantastic car. Love it
1:24 god please get rid of fake engine noise and fake engine braking. It drives me up the wall.
Great fun review. I have a 500e and love it but I will be considering getting something with a bit more range soon. I had an ICE Abarth previously and it was great fun. However this, at this price, is not for me. I think you would have to love the badge and look of the car to pay 2k more for this than the MG4 X Power. The MG performance will leave this trailing.
Thank you! Yeah the price is a tough pill to swallow. If the fiat 500e can get grants maybe Stellantis can wrangle the same with the Abarth?! 🙏
Love it! One of the first electric cars I would consider! The Mini e, the Pugeoet 208 even the Corsa. Makes so much sense if?? Electric is the future. As for the likes of Tesla, Kia etc and yes VW and Audi producing SUV EVs at well over £60 grand! Forget it!
No one buys an Abarth cause it make sense. You buy it cause you love it!
Agree. Cars have stopped being fun. They're now too big, too expensive - and yes, too boring.
People have become obsessed with SUV's, and the 'mine's bigger than yours' syndrome that it encourages. Our roads are not shrinking.....the cars now are just too b****y big!!
Councils are now having to spend unnecessary amounts of money widening roads so as to accommodate these 'tanks' or 'metal blobs'; and are ruining the streetscape and look of areas as a result.
This is money that could (and should) be spent on more important things - like weekly bin collections, instead of bi-weekly which most Councils now have. Because the money is being diverted to road widening.
'Electric' doesn't have to mean 'boring' or joyless - as the current Fiat 500 shows (even though it's a tad on the pricey side); but the car industry are basically not imaginative enough to realise this ....and so churn out ever bigger, and ever blander, sterile cars with each passing year.
Maybe the entire car industry needs a total rethink of how cars are designed and marketed....and why we even need such huge cars. Do we? ....I don't think so.
Thanks Guys best electric car review I have seen. Great laugh and you 2 captured the feel of the car😊. I would buy this car after watching this video but I just ordered a EV6 .
Aww thank you!! That means a lot
I am 60 live in the US we have owned 3 Abarth and love the vehicles. The part of this vehicle that makes me concerned is that it will not have the power and acceleration that the Gas version had. it was a fast, loud, fun vehicle to own. Looking at this vehicles specs, the electric motor seems very under powered to match the gas version. Fit and finish are great, but it it is a turtle, i will have to pass on owning another one. The other problem here in the US is that all of the Fiat dealers closed up so I would have to drive SEVERAL hours to buy one and even worse, get it serviced. That too is a concern.
Looks like a great little car for tight roads and European cities, yet nimble and sporty enough for quick jaunts out of the city... I drove an early (small) honda civic hatchback for years and really enjoyed it for getting about, this would probably do fine as a replacement. A bit out of my price range now, but I could see doing a fractional purchase or it being part of a "electric club car fleet". It got me thinking that it would be kind of fun to have an Electroheads club, perhaps with a club card(visa) that offered deals/discounts on eProducts and an App to help find the right gear. Might be a way to help some customers make payments on bikes as well.
Great video 🎉 and a fantastic little car ….. love it ❤❤❤❤❤
Thank you 🤗
Don't leave her in the boot. Because I like to watch all the e-bike reviews.
I watched the Eskuta review that you did.
I have a good friend who took me to Nuneaton where they are assembled. I had a test drive in there car park. And because I liked it so much, I have paid for it in full I'm waiting for delivery soon. The Eskuta sx250 series iii is a brilliant piece of kit.
For your reference I'm 71 but look and act like I'm 51. All the best to the team. 😀👍
Amazing!! If you bought through us we massively appreciate the support ❤️ you’ll be pleased to hear I am out the boot and a free woman once again ✨
Brilliant little car but like all EVs expensive. Having read that now they are saying that EVs are not going to deliver zero emissions and if the UK was to meet all its targets the difference globally will be 0.044%. Thus at the age of 73.5 my last car purchase will be petrol.
I’m in the same boat at 64.5. Just got an Odyssey (petrol) to carry teens and elderly family across the ‘States from Iowa to Florida and back, and this week Iowa to Seattle then back via Missoula - and all five of us plus luggage barely fit!!! Would love an electric passenger van, but none are readily available in the US, and I honestly shudder at the potential cost. We’re only poor artists and teachers, and $200,000 used to be the price of a pretty fancy house across the lake from Prince’s place.
Brilliant fun review for a fun car.
Thank you! ❤
I want an electric car that sounds like those pod racers in Star Wars! 🙂
I'm having fun. Enjoyed your review 👍
Nice big sunroof there but I’m not sure whether the cabriolet (or convertible) version would be even more fun.
Interesting review of a fun car, Abarth is pulling in their favours, reputationally in charging (ha!) so much for this tiny machine. No, no, thrice no, no external loudspeaker-driven fake ICE engine noises to pollute the environment, keep the speakers inside to entertain the driver (like the Fiesta ST). One good thing about EVs is their motor silence, which will benefit society, big time. Love the boot test- this is a classic, so impressive to see you fold into that tiny space.
In Australia the mg4 cost from 39k, other Chinese base models are mid 40k. So pretty exy here compared to the UK. Could still be worth it for petrol and service savings.
I love this EV. It is one of the only 2door cars with a decent range of 3300km. It also comes in cabriolet. I dont need the sound.
That’s just begging for eyelashes 😂
😂
i remember years ago the ceo of fiat was complaining they were loosing over $10K an electric 500. what is different now?
34k for this thing is insane, given that despite how cool it is, its still small, it only has a 42kwh battery and 160ish hp. It takes alot of work to design a fun car but to mass produce one with such limited specs is not expensive.
Fun and most energetic Video 👍
1:15 - That sound is necessary. It will be welcomed well by the public.
7:45 - Actually, I don't care how I go from A to B 😂😅
6:12 The only proper song to test a premium sound system with! 😆
You know it!!
Would be interesting to compare this to the MG4 X-Power!
THIRTY-EIGHT THOUSAND POUNDS - crazy! However, GREAT review - thank you
I love this car, in this color!
Loved your unique presentation... i own and love my Abarth 595 Scorpioneoro and was really looking forward to eventually replacing it with this new model, BUT with an ICE engine, i get the idea of a sporty town car EV and it could work for me but not at over 10k more than a petrol equivalent..
Thank you! It is a frightening amount of money isn't it?
“Engine sound”? Nope. Nope nope nope. Cute car, though. I’d buy it. Looks fun! (38K price tag?!?)
It's a slap in the face for common sense not the car industry. Stupidly expensive novelty items have been around for years but most people live in the real world.
Add fake exhaust pollution too and maybe optional horse trotting sound..
Definitely want options of different sounds, including Brian Blessed shouting "I am reversing"
To be fair that would be incredible
Divide the price by 10, and that's what most youngsters spend when buying a car 🚗
Right... 😢
Best car video ever!🥳
😭 best comment ever!!!
It's lovely, but then at that price point, that's my expectation. Still, something to look forward to once that elastic curve bends my direction.
Yes, we're having fun! :D And stop calling this not a review! It's a great review! I'd rather watch you review all different Abarth colours in separate videos than watch another SUV "review", i.e. commercial.
Oh, it's proper expensive... I understand that electric cars are lighter on maintenance costs, but you can't explain this to your bank manager when you can't afford a bigger loan...
Hehe thank you!!
Please review the MINI electric too!
No desire to get one of these (even if I had the money) but Loved the review.
I feel the music should be from BAND-MAID though. Cute on the outside, heavy on the inside.
For NVHers the behind is your primary sensory organ.
Thinking of getting one for "Her indoors" and she is 68
I don't know about the sound. I'm very sceptical.
I think if I can switch it off and if I can customise it I would dig it.
Should have v8 noise on all electric cars. Would be fun.
I Love you guys!
I Love the car.
Cheers Gray
Australia
We love you, Gray!
Crazy crazy price😵💫😵💫🙄 Fun to watch though.
The noise is horrific. The lack of noise pollution from EVs is one of their major advantages. The car is expensive too. A noisy toy for rich people.
Hmm. A bit like buying an exact copy made by Fender of Rory Gallagher's battered Stratocaster guitar. It looks like and (if you're skilled enough) sounds like Rory Gallagher's guitar. But it's not the real thing. But hey, back to the Abarth 500e. Can't deny. It does look way cool.
I don't recall any mention of the most important figure = range!
We chucked it down in text - 164 miles WLTP
To people with money £38 thousand is nothing.
Beautiful car
Great car! BUT: way too expensive and too few range.
I’ve a 500e and since my son-in-law described it as having a resting bitch-face, I can’t unsee it.
I can already see people having EV cars make various fart sounds when they accelerate.
That is some adorable luggage 😉
I enjoyed this video but completely missed the cars stats! what was Is the driving range?? I got its top speed!
164 miles (WLTP) on one charge 😊
I wasn't sure this was a british channel until 7:58
Yeh indeed
yeh
yeh.
I feel seen 😂
I personally won't be buying an electric until its way more affordable and I don't think they should ever add a sound. If it was my car it would be turned off I love my vivaro-e work van because of how quiet it is
Love it to bits
She's a beauty!
"Engine" noises on an EV are dumb. Just make it fast and fun to drive
2:22 What has driving a bus got to do with it?
2:47 I've never driven in a bath either.
I give it (I mean you 😁 a 10/10!
Hmm, I like it. Not at that price though. Still, all of my friends (and my girlfriend and me too) are over 6 ft ... But come on, that price! And 154 hp is still a bit meh? The Fiat 500 Abarth petrol was 180+ bhp and it's lighter... Such a pity....
Please no. One of the advantages of electrics is the lack of noise.
40 thousand for that = wow should be called the comedy car.
So it makes the sound of the engine but not the sound of the gear change, wonder what's the point
Something to improve on for the next model for sure
Inspiring the younger generations to inspire their rich parents with that price tag lol.
Abarth should be light, fast n fun.
That awful clearly synthetic noise will be turned off after a day
The video should have ended with Eilis in there and we would see her come out of a different car at the beginning of the review of that different car. I suppose my comment is a suggestion for a new video idea: continuity across (some) videos.
Oh damn that is some mad inception right there
For 70%? Of ev buyers this sounds like a joke. But: JP, the most seen tuner on YT in Germany and Porsche fan tested a prototype of the Ioniq 6N. It has sound and artificial gears and he had a blast...
I hate the idea of making an 'engine noise' on an EV. It's just infantile.
@@FFVoyagerThe elderly appreciate it when crossing the street.
@@ianmangham4570 how is a fake exhaust sound at the back of the car going to help? 🙄
@@FFVoyagerBadinga do !
@@FFVoyager may be its 95% ;-)
Very funny video ... thanks
At this price, absolutely no chance :(
Screw that, will take an mg4 xpower over this any day of the week
Love the idea of the car. Personally dont need or want the sound…and if it brings some ICE drivers into the car as they would otherwise miss the sound then bring it on!
The sound of a gas nah turn that off make it silent 😂
Needs to be half the price
The external speaker should be on all EV, as they are too quiet and people, bicycle and pedestrians, don't hear you coming.
RUclips subtitles cannot translate a British accent.
I don't do much better.
Above
A bath
A bar?
My daughter would wet herself! Want one and I am an old git (big kid). x
Big kids only on this channel!! 😁
I like Eilis!
We are not amused. Perhaps they should use 'Eyre' and 'Richard' as performing names.
😅 I'm old love the look of it love small fun cars ... but rwd or AWD and zoooom I would need more zooom and definitely would change the noise for more. something like a spaceship noise. not a stinky toxic ice car noise yuk 😂😂✨😂
The last thing this world needs is more noise. It creates stress in people and animals. People are already having a difficult time coping with current levels of noise pollution. The world would benefit from small, affordable, non-polluting cars. Unnecessary vehicle noise should be banned, because it impacts everyone forced to be in the vicinity of the car, not just its driver.
It sounds: Like a kid bubbling his milk shake with a straw 🥤
It’s not a “tiny” car. We have the ICE 500 and the EV is slightly bigger. If you want to find tiny just turn the clock back fifty years!
Fan
Of It. Be nice 25k in 2/3 years. 😅