I'd rather play Cry Of Fear than this sad flat excuse for a SH remake, these rectconing everything that's fun idiots bring out the Bill Foster FALLINGDOWN in me.
Knowing Bloober Team's past bullsh*t like stealing games, assests and their general lack of any creativity. The Silent Hill 2 remake would be at best; subpar and at worst; piece of garbage.
@@LosMSR Yes I do Angela is one of the 1st denizens w a messed up background the main character James Sunderland encounters in Silent Hill 2 in search of her mother. What's that got to do with a bunch of morons reconting her original appearance for tourists nothing.
@@marcuskahn3783 She looked hideous in the original, and she wore the ugly turtleneck in the original. She only looks chubby in the graveyard shots, that could be lack of shadows, camera angle, or that it was recorded in a earlier build of the game because she looks great in other shots. You're expiation of her "story" sounds like a coppy paste of the first paragraph of the wiki explaining her introduction.
@@aidensnow5017 She's a broken women with a history of physical n psychological abuse anyone who played the original game knows that and yeah she wasn't super attractive but attractive enough like Nina Myers from 24 compared to what the 3D modelling dept have done to her facial design in the remake making her look like a bloke w bushy eyebrows. Ah forget it I'm just gonna play my favorite seinen horror series of Forbidden Siren RPCS3 instead.
@@aidensnow5017 Angela was never hideous she was attractive enough like Sarah Clark as Nina Myers in 24 and didn't have a bloated puffer fish blokes face n bushy eyebrows like the 3D modelling dept have done to her in the remake that looks as challenging as a bunch of brainlets failing to put shapes in the right cutouts. I'll just happily continue playing the seinen classics of Forbidden Siren on my ps3 n ps3 emulator.
@@AlexHonger-fj3nx I'm not a silent hill fan, never played a single game and have no interest in playing them, I was just giving my opinion on why some people dont like how remake changes things so much that the old fans cant enjoy them anymore, secondly I'm not say that remake are bad either, but some times people just want a higher graphics remaster over a reimagining of a old game, which is why some fans nope out of some games like final fantasy 7 rebirth or even silent hill remake, if you're getting ok that's fine but just try to understand the other sides opinions.
While Konami and the older developers seem to want to change things, I'm not convinced that the younger developers are so determined to preserve the original and not want to change things too. I think bloober wants to take less of the heat and push that onto Konami since they are already hated anyway. Easy scapegoat
It's literally Konami's IP and Ito the OG character designer is on the project as a director. Ito himself said he did not want to remake SH2 because he thought it would be boring to make the same game again, those where his words in an interview. If he has his way it would have been like shattered memories, or even more distant from the original then even that was, to the point it would have only been SH2 in name. That is what he wanted to do and he said Bloober pushed back. Bloober refused and said fans would be furious, that the demand for a real remake was there, and if they weren't making a more faithful SH2 that they wouldn't be interested in continuing work on the project. Their reputation was a bit scuffed going into this... Do you really think a company of over 200 people would be okay with heavily rewriting and warping something like SH2 when their reputation was already in question??? How would they get work after that!? In capitalism speak that's flat out not conducive to the long term heath of the company and sounds like a sht idea, so why would they ever. People are acting like because Bloober made one objectively bad game that the teams filled with idiot's incapable of doing anything right, meanwhile y'all line up for the next Ubisot, Bethesda, Square or Activision announcement as if they've never pssed the bed.
@AlexHonger-fj3nx At this point, I am done with remakes entirely. Just stop them. Whether it be games, movies, shows, etc. Just stop making them. Make something new and stop tarnishing what we all know and love
@@Chaso-1124 You say that but you/others hardly buy or show up for new IP... "Everything is woke, everything is racist, everything has an agenda, everything new is a sub par knock of of something we've seen half a dozen times before, I hate this new design, I don't like this new game mode I'm going back to the older one." -This is all publishers like Konami have herd as feedback for the last 10+ years, if they hear anything at all, as multi million dollar project after multi million dollar project fails... You wouldn't rub out a quick remake if you where in their position? We are approaching a depression, no studio is taking massive risks right now, there's closures and mass layoffs every other day. Over 90% of new IP flop, again you say you want it but do you and others actually show up for new IP? Not really, Y'all make Spider man a top seller while ignoring most of the other new IP! Even Stellar Blade had a hard time competing with the 28th spider man and 14th god of war.... Y'all hardly buy new IP, that go's for Xbox and PC too. Don't get worked up over the remake, play it or the OG, the OG literally isn't going anywhere. You're not forced to play it, and maybe we should hold off from judgment till its in people hands and real reviews come out.
@AlexHonger-fj3nx The only one getting worked up is you. Jesus christ, you don't even know me.....stop writing a whole novel as if you know me, know what I've purchased, know what I play, etc I have no interest in this remake, and that's that. Deal with it and move on
@@Chaso-1124 Buddy I'm not worked up at all, just trying to explain simple sht you seem to struggle to grasp in this situation. Enjoy you're PS2 game if you're so not bothered with the remakes mere existence bruv. Maybe it's not the remake's that are the issue, maybe your just hitting middle age and hate change... like my grandpa! :D
The smoking man was the best character with the best lines in the X-Files "Anybody who can appease a man's conscience so easily, can take away his freedom"
A reminder that the original FF7 was the result of compromise between Kitase (who wanted to kill off the whole cast) and Nomura (who staunchly stood his ground that Kitase's idea was too dark) and they ended up agreeing on killing off just one character (Aerith). Nomura - now an old guard - being given the reign with Remake, wanted to have his way and implement the story he had in mind in the 90s. Remake was initially reframed as a multiverse story to justify greater divergences from the original timeline. It was the new guards - young devs who loved the compromised story of the original - that pushed back against the old guard. That and player "feedback" (read: backlash) caused Rebirth development to repivot to avoid making "that" scene go completely differently. It's not always the new people that want to change the original.
It was not Kitase who wanted changes, it was Nomura. This lie needs to stop when Nomura didn't want to do the remake, but because Kitase assigned it to him, he decided he was going to not be restricted and make changes, along with the writer. That fact has been stated by Nomura, so it contradicts the fact he wanted to preserve things and it was all Kitase.
You reversed the 2. Angela was the younger abuse victim. Maria was the mirror image of Mary but the way James wished she was more proactive, she said she was a bartender at Heaven's Night bar and was hung over in hospital
Damn, that is a real shame that Konami themselves are to blame for these changes. I'm also worried that the game's mature and intelligent themes that deal with emotional manipulation, neglect and discard, and other relationship issues, will be diluted and severely played down.
Interesting, bloober somewhat sucks at writing, I feel. But if keeping "adjustments" to the minimum they should have had the technical skill to release a good remake. F Konami, replay the original.
Literally they have all the resources to make a good game, SH2 has some of the best writing in video game history, follow it and you're set, bloober games always looked good, it was the story that was terrible, and combat, but the combat In the game trailer actually looks good. If this manage to f this up too I doubt they'll remain in business for long
I remember George Lucas re-releasing the OG trilogy over and over again changing and adding things that flat out made the movies worse but, in his head he was "improving it" and he owned the IP back then, there were no suits or shareholders pushing him. I think these things may happen when development is done in a vacuum and there's not feedback from fans. The creator forgets fans loved the original art work the way it is and not the way they wish it was.
Get ready for her to be clothed and plain, if not beat up Snake. I've no idea what to expect from that other than Eva no longer using her body to get what she wants or Snake getting laid.
"Bloober" is a good name for the new fat Angela. Imagine if they used someone's real likeness for that, then just decided to make them "body positive" and dared the original model to call them out. Even worse if the model had gained weight or had problems with an eating disorder in the interim. What a miserable decision. I have zero intention to buy this. I beat Silent Hill 2 every way possible. There's nothing left here for me but disappointment, like most of modern society. I'm playing Astral Chain right now and really enjoying it.
and this situation also happened hilariously enough with the devil may cry series the DmC reboot happened because capcom wanted to change it to be more radical while the new team wanted to be more close to the original source material
Never just believe developers. They will blame the publisher fast as they can. Most Western studios naturally try and change (especially) foreign IPs, so I never believe they wanted to stay faithful. They did give that directive, but it was open season which they wanted. When do you hear them fight to preserve the games or refuse the job if they can't? Never.
In what way? FFVII Rebirth is literally the best FF game ever made. OG and New fans bought it Silent Hill 2 and MGS should learn from Rebirth on how a remake should be.
I think a serious debate needs to be held in the gaming industries as to how remakes , remasters etc are done. Games are art. Paintings , buildings , sculptures , music , movies , books have set standards as to not alter the original during restorations , reconstructions , conservations , etc. the main goal is to not disturb the authenticity of the art piece. We are demeaning our artform - videogames , by allowing this.
I don't see how the "original" developers have any say on Silent Hill 2. Most of the original devs have long since moved on to other companies including Bokeh Studio whose currently working on Slitterhead. Anyone still at Konami now would likely be a tiny fraction of the original dev team.
Great point about the original devs maybe not “understanding what they made” Mugen…but also I wonder exactly what they mean by modern in this particular case- like maybe the developers wanted better graphics, more action oriented gameplay or menu mechanics vs changing the character designs and dialogue?
I have a legit question for everyone who loves horror games and action games, is anyone really surprised that game companies remaking popular franchises hate you but love your money?
People have been wanting a decent new iteration in the Silent Hill series for a long time. Konami could have taken P.T. and expanded on that, if nothing else. Remakes have their place, but SH fans have been wanting something new for a while and the decision to do a remake of SH2 just seems strange. If they wanted to reboot interest in the IP by releasing a remake, I feel like remaking SH1 would have been a much better choice.
So Bloober lied when they said it would be faithful. They didn't say this in the first place, so they clearly played ball and can't just blame them when they would have done so anyway. They also had DEI consultants on board, so even more unlikely they wanted to preserve jack.
They have an SBI-like consulting firm. That's more than enough for me to want to avoid this game regardless. And shame on the old heads for wanting to do this. They've grown so out of touch with what their consumers and old fans want. If the bloober team are actually fans, then they've been screwed over twice in the same project and no I feel bad for them.
There was literally zero reason for a sh2 remake that game is still incredibly beautiful to this day. Making it more graphically realistic will not make it a better game. Now as much as I love sh1 that game really could benefit from a remake
Since it's the most popular entry they probably wanna test the waters and see if the game does well financially then go on to remake 1 and 3-4 if it does
Having Silent Hill be modernized takes away from its timeless qualities. It could have been in an American town in the 70s, 80s, 90s.... Shattered Memories had Harry use a smartphone for some reason.
Remakes never outdo the original. So much is lost trying to "remake" these games to where ultimately it is pointless to not just make a new game because that is what they end up doing anyway.
I'm definitely more cautious after seeing how Angela changed. I can get that they probably didn't want her to look pretty, as she is meant to be someone who looks unnaturally aged from her abuse, but it definitely feels like whoever modeled her face thought "bee sting allergy" is the same thing as "traumatic assault victim" or whatever. It's especially odd since her body doesn't seem to be all that larger, so it doesn't seem like Bloober or whoever suggested the change was trying to give her weight gain issues. The fact that they did listen to the feedback of the combat trailer does have me a bit hopeful that they'll tweak Angela's face so it it's not so comically puffy looking. And hopefully they'll also add some color to Maria's outfit. She doesn't have to be dressed quite like Christina Aguilera as she was before, but the outfit right now just feels drab and lifeless, lacking part of what makes her stand in contrast to Mary, who is the one that was meant to be "boring" due to her illness keeping her dressed in an unappealing way. Of course, only time will tell if they manage to turns things around or if this remake winds up being like the Resident Evil 3 remake; okay, but vastly inferior to the original game it was based on.
That's the problem most people weighing in are not true fans and they are easy to spot. You will never see a true fan of silent hill compare it to resident evil...they completely different franchises the only similarity is that they are survival horror games. That's all. Before silent hill was thing people started to compare both and the fans who really played both games knew the ones who didn't play were talking shit...the people now want silent hill to be a resident evil...but silent hill never were...the environment and the thread is there...they are on the right path.
Looking at The Medium, you can tell they wanted to put the dynamic camera view in SH2R. Konami, being Konami though, told them, "No, we want over the shoulder only." because, Resident Evil. I'm also starting to get the impression, they cut Eddie out. I suppose that's better than race swapping him, and calling him D-ed because he makes folk he don't like, DED- dead. Hit detection, most likely had him eating fried chicken, instead of pizza, and Bloober was like, "It's better if we just.....don't."
I have been waiting since 2001 for a proper SH2 remake. Unfortunately the are pandering to 0.00001% of the community who doesn't care about the series (mind you I've been a fan of SH games since the demo disk in 1998 from a PSX magazine, I still have the demo disc that has SH1 demo inside of it). Same with Resident Evil 2, I would've loved a proper RE2 remake made in the same style as RE1 rebirth (remake of Directors Cut for Gamecube in 2001/2002 with added extras and more lore to the story). This is why whenever they mention "For the Modern Audiences" they mean the normies/SJW's and Eternal Product Consooomers who don't give two shits about what made these games great.
Why am I 100% sure that money changed hands behind the scenes in order to provoke people to advocate for the destruction of their creation. In another 20 years, no one will remember Silent Hill after this abomination.
Im worried man; have you seen that weird pol chart with games saying which ones were trans right issue ones...? They had silent hill and other classics I love on there; it's like homie... how the hell... I analyzed the HELL out of these games and maybe because of my manly perception of things due to me building a chuck of TORONTO I am inclined to believe these people ate the propaganda numo fruit and have* devil fruit powers of their own. (Im half kidding but serious here)
I don't think I buy this. Maybe Konami corp execs but the actual team that made the original I highly doubt it. I need some evidence, not just words. If the original team that developed the game wanted to make changes I could only think of them wanting to make improvements to their original to utilize the updated tech. If they want to make something different, then use an original idea and don't bastardize an existing IP. I still won't buy it. If anything I'll wait until it's on sale if the impartial reviews are favorable not the reviews from these bought and paid for "gaming journalists". Were any of these consulting companies involved? If so why have they not disclosed that? Again if so they aren't getting my money. I will not supports a dev team that hates me openly or works with teams that openly hate me. Thanks for the break down it has informed me enough to want to look further into this.
It's a common trend among developers who regret certain decisions. For example, Guilty Gear's creator regrets not making Strive (the latest installment) easier. Regardless of what you might think of that sentiment and the fact that Strive is already inherently easier than previous installments, he would absolutely go back and completely change the game if it were possible/feasible.
@@Artician I understand that for sure. Like them wanting to fix any plot holes or add content they were forced to cut or like you said fixing a gaming mechanic they felt was wrong. I just don't see them wanting to add stuff that doesn't add to the story or making changes that actually take away from it in one way or another. It just seems like they're hedging their bets in case it doesn't receive such a warm reception after release and bloober can shift the blame to the original devs then they can shift the blame to the execs at komani. The blame train. But I still gotta read what the og devs actually said. That's just what it looks like to me.
I basically feel what you're saying but yes you did confuse Angela and Maria and you may wanna go back and finish the original game. It is fun, a classic and you can get several interesting endings. Maria was not a prostitute but a fantasy projected by James of his late Wife and Angela was the Young Woman who looked older due to the incessant abuse she experienced at the hands of her Father. The way they are changing things reminds me in a round-about way of how michael bay so drastically changed the source material when he adapated TRANSFORMERS: a ton of drastic surface cosmetic changes that convey a lack of understanding of the original concept and all the sigificant details that define it. Thanks.
I don't blindly trust everything Bloober Team writes. People write a lot when the heat is on. Also, when working with Japan, a lot can be lost in translation for westernern Studios, especially nuances. Heck even in a team where everyone speaks the same language sometimes people don't get their point across. I doubt Konami is self destructive enough to tell a studio to make their game worse - they want to make money after all.
5 Things: 1. It goes to show that Japanese developers don't always have perfect ideas either. But the difference is they are WAY more open to compromise and change than the west, who always just double down and immediately go into 'fight mode" with the audience. 2. But I can understand older devs wanting to do something new. That's natural for anyone creative who has done something they've already done before. The fact that remakes even happen is a demand from the publishers, not them. These are cash grabs that have made the industry stagnant. 3. Bloober Team, as superfans should hopefully help to preserve what we loved about SH2, but being a fan, and being talented are two different things. I bought The Medium and it's not great. Handing them Silent Hill feels like failing upward, and I liken it to giving someone the keys to a Ferrari, even though they didn't pass their driver's test. 4. You've got Maria and Angela backwards, but the point still stands. Even small alterations drastically change the point of why the characters were the way they were. The nurses, too, which they've decided to cover up and make less curvy. Everything in Silent Hill 2 had a meaning! 5. Playing FF7's currently. Chadley drives me nuts. Was he in the original? He's like your dweeby boss, and I want Cloud to beat him up, lol.
Nah, i don't trust Bloober as well. They are affiliated with Hit detect. Bloober could've pitched some bs to Konami as to why the designs need to change, and if they don't the "modern audience" won't be pleased, thus leading to the game failling in the west. Konami would easily bite on such a statement given how they were and still are stupid enough to outsource the ip, instead of going the MGS3 remake route which is a mainly in-house supervised remake.
Im right there with u @mugenlord. Im not gonna lie, i thought silent hill 2 was a poor man's resident evil😂😂😂. I really didn't get into silent hill until the room and homecoming. Those were the ones i got mad far in, but didn't beat. Ill probably take a look into the remake. RE was just everything to me and still is my #1 series. Ill put it like this. Ive play just about every RE game tht has come out on console(no handhelds except for the 3ds mercenaries game), tht even includes freaking dead aim(game was so damn good) and chonicles. I literally went on eBay as a yound lad and bought a gamecube just to play all the RE games on it, its definitely my most played series😂😂.
You say, "Silent Hill is a poor man's RE," then you proceed to say you weren't into it until you played THE WORST SH game ever made, Homecoming. Even Downpour had more redeeming qualities than Homecoming. That's how bad that game was. Also, you just confessed you've never beaten a single SH game in your life... so why should we take your word for it? I adore The Room just as much as 1-3, but don't speak as if know SH. They're not the same thing, and this is coming from an avid RE, SH, and survival horrors in general since the 90s.
@WildDogGamerBoy 🤣🤣🤣. bro, I was literally a kid when I played SH and thought that, and change my mind later down the line. U may not like those SH games, but I did. I can careless if u take my word or not, I dont seek validation🤣🤣. I know SH not re, literally why I didn't like them at first until later on. Its funny how i probably have the same time played as mugenlord with SH2. I thought it was like re and found out it wasn't and wasnt feeling it. It's not that serious🤣🤣🤣
Well silent hill DID start off being a RE rip-off. But I think Silent Hill has the better games (speaking purely on the first four) I'm currently re-playing RE3 lol
All the “ugly” controversies are so silly. Please look at it from the artist’s perspective, they seek to craft something that satisfies them artistically. Any new direction is working toward that, whether they are going for something new or grounded. Nothing to do with woke
I'm skeptical of this, Bloober's Medium was not good and very on the nose. I honestly have 0 interest, my interest is PS2 Silent Hill 3. My PS2 is connected to a Sony Trinitron PVM-CRT in my 1988-2005 classic Room.
the problem with your argument is that the game is being changed by sweet baby inc consulting. they are making the game more modern and woke. ff vill remake and rebirth were made woke too. there were lgbt elements in them both
@@HupCapNinja actually it does. Cloud cross dressing. There is a screenshot of lesbians in the background holding hands. You just ain't paying attention
@@leonarddement3432Cloud Cross dressed in the original game, what are you on about? Have you played the original or are you a tourist just like the woke who weigh in on topics they know nothing about? The original even had a suggestive homo erotic special bath scene as well.
But all this simps of wokeness told me that the "remake" is gonna be kept the same even that they changed almost everything from the original! And I'm not a real fan 😔
But it's not toxic to take an existing IP and completely ruin it through censorship or by inserting unnecessary political ideology which has no foundation in facts or reality and deceive people into supporting and purchasing it through false advertising and misrepresenting the content of the product and who is involved with the development? It seems a bit more toxic to me to do that than some people online criticizing their decision making, stories, and final product. Projection is a hell of a drug.
@happenstance7530 SH2 was originally was actually not well received by fans because it didn't connect to the first game, and SH3 was supposed to be a darker game much like the 2nd, and was considered to be a "better" version of SH2, it was too dark and deep for ppl so they scrapped the entire thing and we got what we have now aswell since fans still wanted a continuation of the first game. And SH4 was hated but now it's retro-actively considered a great game by fans and critics alike. But I still have my doubts on this game too
@@JesusGomez-ob2qt Oh, Ok I knew that but I don't remember it being toxic just fans complaining they weren't getting what they thought they were getting. It's not like they boycotted Konami and forced them into bankruptcy or spread malicious lies and slander to ruin their careers. They complained and the company tried to correct to maintain sales numbers. I don't think the devs had anything to do with the decision it probably came from the higher ups. Now did the complaints curtail the devs creativity or original ideas? Kind of I guess but the choice was ultimately made by the execs and the devs were subject to their whims because of contractual obligations. I think the first 4 were all great in their own right even though they were forced to change mid way through one or two of them. If all that didn't happen, we wouldn't have got the games we did.
For the love of god, just make a new game then! Make a side story or a spin off. I hate FF7R with a passion. I've been a fan of FF since 1987, and until recently FF13 was the one FF game I could not stand. Worst in the series! FF7 Remake/Rebirth blew that out of the water! I hate that it even exists because it will forever be a stain on the entire series. If they want to change Silent Hill so much, just make a different side story. That makes more sense than changing an established lore! If you don't maintain lore you don't have a franchise, and changing lore makes you lose customers!
So your saying that they should make a shitty game with a new story instead? Your saying you would rather that they put the final nail in the coffin for an entire game series? Because doing what you are implying they should do would likely mean that you would never see a rerelease of any prior game. You will never see a new game in the franchise ever again because you decided that changing the story was worse than killing the franchise. Had final fantasy 7 remake sold poorly, Square Enix would have gone bankrupt by now, just like the time they nearly went bankrupt by creating the movie final fantasy the spirits within. And by your own logic, your suggesting that Capcom should have risked cancelling the resident evil series instead of allowing a remake of both re 2 and re 4 to be made which did in fact change the lore. Spider man for the ps4 was a remake. DId you hear any one whining about how it wasn't related to the original spiderman on game cube or playstation? Look at at what happened to the front mission game series! It died because people like you insisted that they created a new game that for all intents and purposes, was completely unrelated to any prior game entries, containing no references to the prior games. Front mission evolved destroyed the franchise. It is a miracle that we even got a game that had any connection to it more recently, but that game didn't do all that well because you weren't allowed to get inside a wanzer and have some mech action. Had square enix just created a remake of the third game or the fourth game, it probably would have done better. Just because a game is a remake does not mean that there are not bigger stains on the series that you reference. Tomb raider angel of darkness was a disaster for the tombraider franchise. The remake did way better than it. And the remake changed the entire backstory! Soul caliber 6 is in fact a remake that essentially retcons the entire franchise and starts over. I get it, remakes can be problematic. The remake of Perfect Dark is a text book example of ruining absolutely everything that made the original so incredible. But on the other hand, some remakes end up being much better than their original release. God of war for the ps4 is a remake as it does in fact retcon a lot of the original titles while still providing some references to some of their plot points. A soft reboot is still by definition a remake. And sometimes a soft reboot is better than trying to correct the biggest F*** ups from preceding titles. Not all lore should be maintained. Not all story lines are perfect. And honestly, I am worried that the second remake of perfect dark is probably going to be as awful as the one that killed the series before it could even get a sequel. These god awful remakes wouldn't be as terrible if you people spent more time grouping together and requesting it be done properly. This silent hill 2 remake looks promising even if it does divert from its source material. My point being that it could be much worse. Castlevania lords of shadow 2 killed castlevania. If you do not speak up earlier on in the development period, this is how you end up with bad results. The silent hill 2 remake has likely been in development for more than 3 years. And only now do you choose to complain. People also talk about how silent hill P.T was a great game, despite the fact that it has spawned so many similar indie games to the point that is less silent hill and more of a new genre of game, which can be seen as good and bad depending on who you ask. I could go on and on but I think I have made my point here.
@@josephlh1690 Don't have time to read a wall of text, but based on your first sentence: No. Id prefer they make a new game with a new story instead of taking an old game with a good story and wrecking it.
@@snappertrx That was already tried with Origins, Homecoming, Downpour, Short Message, and look at their "amazing" sales and reception. Also, Silent Hill F, the latest mainline game for series is on the way. A new game will just get compared to older games anyway in terms of story quality and lore, so what difference does it make??? Might as well also reintroduce one of the better older games with a fresh coat of paint, since the Resident Evil Remakes set the tone for what is big business right now. So why pass up such an opportunity? The older games are always there for you to go back to if you don't like the remake.
@@mr.sinjin-smyth Because much like with FF7R, they won't do a 1/1 remake, they will modify it for the "modern audience" and still make it a bad game. Hence you piss off the majority of people who were waiting for a remaster. Is the better option to take an older game that people love and make it trash? If making a new game = trash and remaking an old game as trash then we will all end up with trash. Seems odd to pigeonhole yourself into pissing everyone off when you can just make a proper remaster. Old fans are happy, new fans get the experience and the developer makes money, but I guess I'm just old school like that. I like the option where everyone wins. Not sure why this suddenly is anathema to both developers and modern gamers.
@@snappertrx Honestly, they went overboard with the FF7 Remakes, but that's on the original developers who wanted to change story in a another direction, while the youngsters wanted to keep the core aspect of the game the same. It's very much the same in the case for SH2's remake in many ways. The positive in all of this is that it has led to now a growing demand to see older games get remastered with significant modern QOL aspect included, with the original Tomb Raider remasters being a perfect example. The Thing (2001 game) is now also getting a remaster along with Fear Effect also getting a remaster. There's a possibly Konami might consider giving original Silent Hill 1-3 remasters somewhere down the line, since there's also a possibility that Capcom might do the same for original RE 1-3. So you'll never know what comes next. Seeing 20-30 year old games getting QOL remasters might be the best thing for this current gaming era since most of the newer games just plain suck.
I have a legit question for everyone who loves horror games and action games, is anyone really surprised that game companies remaking popular franchises hate you but love your money?
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Could Silent Hill 2 Remake surprise us despite the concerning signs of development?
I'd rather play Cry Of Fear than this sad flat excuse for a SH remake, these rectconing everything that's fun idiots bring out the Bill Foster FALLINGDOWN in me.
Hey dude, we're friends on twitter, luckily our names are the same on here, I've subbed and I'll watch your big video tomorrow
@@AstralLaVista Woot! Yeah, it will be up Monday! Well I have two big videos coming, one on Monday and the other on Wednesday.
Knowing Bloober Team's past bullsh*t like stealing games, assests and their general lack of any creativity. The Silent Hill 2 remake would be at best; subpar and at worst; piece of garbage.
Good God they turned Angela Orosco into David Duchovney's chubby double in an ugly turtleneck sweater.
Did you at least know the story of Angela?
@@LosMSR Yes I do Angela is one of the 1st denizens w a messed up background the main character James Sunderland encounters in Silent Hill 2 in search of her mother. What's that got to do with a bunch of morons reconting her original appearance for tourists nothing.
@@marcuskahn3783 She looked hideous in the original, and she wore the ugly turtleneck in the original. She only looks chubby in the graveyard shots, that could be lack of shadows, camera angle, or that it was recorded in a earlier build of the game because she looks great in other shots.
You're expiation of her "story" sounds like a coppy paste of the first paragraph of the wiki explaining her introduction.
@@aidensnow5017 She's a broken women with a history of physical n psychological abuse anyone who played the original game knows that and yeah she wasn't super attractive but attractive enough like Nina Myers from 24 compared to what the 3D modelling dept have done to her facial design in the remake making her look like a bloke w bushy eyebrows. Ah forget it I'm just gonna play my favorite seinen horror series of Forbidden Siren RPCS3 instead.
@@aidensnow5017 Angela was never hideous she was attractive enough like Sarah Clark as Nina Myers in 24 and didn't have a bloated puffer fish blokes face n bushy eyebrows like the 3D modelling dept have done to her in the remake that looks as challenging as a bunch of brainlets failing to put shapes in the right cutouts. I'll just happily continue playing the seinen classics of Forbidden Siren on my ps3 n ps3 emulator.
🤔old isn't always bad, studios dont need to make games for modern times
@@AlexHonger-fj3nx I'm not a silent hill fan, never played a single game and have no interest in playing them, I was just giving my opinion on why some people dont like how remake changes things so much that the old fans cant enjoy them anymore, secondly I'm not say that remake are bad either, but some times people just want a higher graphics remaster over a reimagining of a old game, which is why some fans nope out of some games like final fantasy 7 rebirth or even silent hill remake, if you're getting ok that's fine but just try to understand the other sides opinions.
"Faithful and respectful to the original" my ass
While Konami and the older developers seem to want to change things, I'm not convinced that the younger developers are so determined to preserve the original and not want to change things too. I think bloober wants to take less of the heat and push that onto Konami since they are already hated anyway. Easy scapegoat
It's literally Konami's IP and Ito the OG character designer is on the project as a director. Ito himself said he did not want to remake SH2 because he thought it would be boring to make the same game again, those where his words in an interview.
If he has his way it would have been like shattered memories, or even more distant from the original then even that was, to the point it would have only been SH2 in name. That is what he wanted to do and he said Bloober pushed back. Bloober refused and said fans would be furious, that the demand for a real remake was there, and if they weren't making a more faithful SH2 that they wouldn't be interested in continuing work on the project.
Their reputation was a bit scuffed going into this... Do you really think a company of over 200 people would be okay with heavily rewriting and warping something like SH2 when their reputation was already in question??? How would they get work after that!? In capitalism speak that's flat out not conducive to the long term heath of the company and sounds like a sht idea, so why would they ever.
People are acting like because Bloober made one objectively bad game that the teams filled with idiot's incapable of doing anything right, meanwhile y'all line up for the next Ubisot, Bethesda, Square or Activision announcement as if they've never pssed the bed.
@AlexHonger-fj3nx
At this point, I am done with remakes entirely. Just stop them. Whether it be games, movies, shows, etc. Just stop making them. Make something new and stop tarnishing what we all know and love
@@Chaso-1124 You say that but you/others hardly buy or show up for new IP...
"Everything is woke, everything is racist, everything has an agenda, everything new is a sub par knock of of something we've seen half a dozen times before, I hate this new design, I don't like this new game mode I'm going back to the older one." -This is all publishers like Konami have herd as feedback for the last 10+ years, if they hear anything at all, as multi million dollar project after multi million dollar project fails... You wouldn't rub out a quick remake if you where in their position? We are approaching a depression, no studio is taking massive risks right now, there's closures and mass layoffs every other day.
Over 90% of new IP flop, again you say you want it but do you and others actually show up for new IP? Not really, Y'all make Spider man a top seller while ignoring most of the other new IP! Even Stellar Blade had a hard time competing with the 28th spider man and 14th god of war.... Y'all hardly buy new IP, that go's for Xbox and PC too.
Don't get worked up over the remake, play it or the OG, the OG literally isn't going anywhere. You're not forced to play it, and maybe we should hold off from judgment till its in people hands and real reviews come out.
@AlexHonger-fj3nx
The only one getting worked up is you. Jesus christ, you don't even know me.....stop writing a whole novel as if you know me, know what I've purchased, know what I play, etc
I have no interest in this remake, and that's that. Deal with it and move on
@@Chaso-1124 Buddy I'm not worked up at all, just trying to explain simple sht you seem to struggle to grasp in this situation. Enjoy you're PS2 game if you're so not bothered with the remakes mere existence bruv.
Maybe it's not the remake's that are the issue, maybe your just hitting middle age and hate change... like my grandpa! :D
So you're saying that Mulder would be joined by smoking man.
The smoking man was the best character with the best lines in the X-Files "Anybody who can appease a man's conscience so easily, can take away his freedom"
A reminder that the original FF7 was the result of compromise between Kitase (who wanted to kill off the whole cast) and Nomura (who staunchly stood his ground that Kitase's idea was too dark) and they ended up agreeing on killing off just one character (Aerith). Nomura - now an old guard - being given the reign with Remake, wanted to have his way and implement the story he had in mind in the 90s. Remake was initially reframed as a multiverse story to justify greater divergences from the original timeline. It was the new guards - young devs who loved the compromised story of the original - that pushed back against the old guard. That and player "feedback" (read: backlash) caused Rebirth development to repivot to avoid making "that" scene go completely differently.
It's not always the new people that want to change the original.
true; it's not even bad blood at the beginning too; just rivalling ideas.
Kitase must have reeeeeeeaaaaally been on that Berserk pack.
@@Andrew_TS lmaooooo true man; same timeframe.
It was not Kitase who wanted changes, it was Nomura. This lie needs to stop when Nomura didn't want to do the remake, but because Kitase assigned it to him, he decided he was going to not be restricted and make changes, along with the writer. That fact has been stated by Nomura, so it contradicts the fact he wanted to preserve things and it was all Kitase.
You reversed the 2. Angela was the younger abuse victim. Maria was the mirror image of Mary but the way James wished she was more proactive, she said she was a bartender at Heaven's Night bar and was hung over in hospital
Damn, that is a real shame that Konami themselves are to blame for these changes. I'm also worried that the game's mature and intelligent themes that deal with emotional manipulation, neglect and discard, and other relationship issues, will be diluted and severely played down.
Interesting, bloober somewhat sucks at writing, I feel. But if keeping "adjustments" to the minimum they should have had the technical skill to release a good remake.
F Konami, replay the original.
Literally they have all the resources to make a good game, SH2 has some of the best writing in video game history, follow it and you're set, bloober games always looked good, it was the story that was terrible, and combat, but the combat In the game trailer actually looks good. If this manage to f this up too I doubt they'll remain in business for long
now I feel relieved that they didn't remake the first game
destroying one legacy is more than enough
I remember George Lucas re-releasing the OG trilogy over and over again changing and adding things that flat out made the movies worse but, in his head he was "improving it" and he owned the IP back then, there were no suits or shareholders pushing him.
I think these things may happen when development is done in a vacuum and there's not feedback from fans. The creator forgets fans loved the original art work the way it is and not the way they wish it was.
The thing that I don't get is that MGS Delta is having the treatment the Silent Hill first 4 games is denied of... Why?
Because MGS made far more money.
I hope metal gear solid delta don't make eva ugly if they did this I gonna play orginal version and woke need to be illegal
Get ready for her to be clothed and plain, if not beat up Snake. I've no idea what to expect from that other than Eva no longer using her body to get what she wants or Snake getting laid.
My wallet still remains closed, grows more fatter and sealed shut.
I'm stick with the classic Konami games for PS1, PS2 & PS3.
I hear ya
I've still got all my old consoles and gaming rig w emulators to keep me fueled for lifetime no need for the fugly remakes, HAHA kuknami.
"Bloober" is a good name for the new fat Angela. Imagine if they used someone's real likeness for that, then just decided to make them "body positive" and dared the original model to call them out. Even worse if the model had gained weight or had problems with an eating disorder in the interim. What a miserable decision.
I have zero intention to buy this. I beat Silent Hill 2 every way possible. There's nothing left here for me but disappointment, like most of modern society. I'm playing Astral Chain right now and really enjoying it.
and this situation also happened hilariously enough with the devil may cry series the DmC reboot happened because capcom wanted to change it to be more radical while the new team wanted to be more close to the original source material
Never just believe developers. They will blame the publisher fast as they can. Most Western studios naturally try and change (especially) foreign IPs, so I never believe they wanted to stay faithful. They did give that directive, but it was open season which they wanted. When do you hear them fight to preserve the games or refuse the job if they can't? Never.
Well Konami were the ones who said "Modern audience"
that means WHITE'S with blue hair dye audience
I think and hope they meant more accessible and not more stupid.
Bloober says this while having a DEI consultation company and us seeing the DEI-ified Angela, Maria and the nurses
Lol
I wanna see Bloober under the sword
The Konami remakes are only economic projects. Don't expect to much from them.
Can't believe this is the company that made boktai and metal gear series 😢
When over this the Silent Hill 2 Remake with a diehard fan of the game on stream.
I think I heard someone say this.
Don't expect the original fans to buy it, Konami learned nothing from Square Enix.
You on crack been playing silent hill since ps1 buying this fasho
You're referring to Rebirth?
In what way? FFVII Rebirth is literally the best FF game ever made. OG and New fans bought it Silent Hill 2 and MGS should learn from Rebirth on how a remake should be.
@@HupCapNinja Rebirth was horrible Ubisoft repetitive open world slop
@@HupCapNinjatotally unbiased opinion about one of the most hated remakes ever. Kingdom hearts pfp checks out.
So there's some old heads messing things up.....SMH for real.
Well let us say this again, F Konami
What's the word goat
Silent Hill 2 Remake is where you play as Mangela annihilate every local buffet and fastfood you can find
I think a serious debate needs to be held in the gaming industries as to how remakes , remasters etc are done. Games are art. Paintings , buildings , sculptures , music , movies , books have set standards as to not alter the original during restorations , reconstructions , conservations , etc. the main goal is to not disturb the authenticity of the art piece. We are demeaning our artform - videogames , by allowing this.
I don't see how the "original" developers have any say on Silent Hill 2. Most of the original devs have long since moved on to other companies including Bokeh Studio whose currently working on Slitterhead. Anyone still at Konami now would likely be a tiny fraction of the original dev team.
sorry but you switch stories between maria and angela
and the ammo wasn't that scarce in the original tbh
Ok the ammo being more scarce is good tho in my opinion I'd rather have some challenge that's not a bad change
you flipped the names for maria and angela but otherwise you were spot on about the way they were presented
Might be a surprise to us but am waiting for the new movie
Some people says it looks legit.
Okamoto’s comment about James being older made me womder if a game set after SH2 (but still starring James) would work.
Great point about the original devs maybe not “understanding what they made” Mugen…but also I wonder exactly what they mean by modern in this particular case- like maybe the developers wanted better graphics, more action oriented gameplay or menu mechanics vs changing the character designs and dialogue?
That's a good question, no idea.
So much for a "remake" if they don't improve what is great from the original and add in new things that stand out in a positive way.
I don't believe they did that. What I think is they came up with a plan to save Bloober and the original team took the blame.
I have a legit question for everyone who loves horror games and action games, is anyone really surprised that game companies remaking popular franchises hate you but love your money?
People have been wanting a decent new iteration in the Silent Hill series for a long time. Konami could have taken P.T. and expanded on that, if nothing else. Remakes have their place, but SH fans have been wanting something new for a while and the decision to do a remake of SH2 just seems strange. If they wanted to reboot interest in the IP by releasing a remake, I feel like remaking SH1 would have been a much better choice.
Well the medium was a push to get the opportunity to do silent hill 2 remake then come to realise they want to compete with Resident Evil still
Dunno why, I dont think a bigger jaw for Angela was one of the changes that Konami wanted.
Lmao!
So Bloober lied when they said it would be faithful. They didn't say this in the first place, so they clearly played ball and can't just blame them when they would have done so anyway. They also had DEI consultants on board, so even more unlikely they wanted to preserve jack.
Or they could be damage controlling. I guess fans will have to find out once they get their hands on the game.
They have an SBI-like consulting firm. That's more than enough for me to want to avoid this game regardless. And shame on the old heads for wanting to do this. They've grown so out of touch with what their consumers and old fans want. If the bloober team are actually fans, then they've been screwed over twice in the same project and no I feel bad for them.
There was literally zero reason for a sh2 remake that game is still incredibly beautiful to this day. Making it more graphically realistic will not make it a better game. Now as much as I love sh1 that game really could benefit from a remake
Since it's the most popular entry they probably wanna test the waters and see if the game does well financially then go on to remake 1 and 3-4 if it does
Having Silent Hill be modernized takes away from its timeless qualities. It could have been in an American town in the 70s, 80s, 90s....
Shattered Memories had Harry use a smartphone for some reason.
Remakes never outdo the original. So much is lost trying to "remake" these games to where ultimately it is pointless to not just make a new game because that is what they end up doing anyway.
I'm definitely more cautious after seeing how Angela changed. I can get that they probably didn't want her to look pretty, as she is meant to be someone who looks unnaturally aged from her abuse, but it definitely feels like whoever modeled her face thought "bee sting allergy" is the same thing as "traumatic assault victim" or whatever. It's especially odd since her body doesn't seem to be all that larger, so it doesn't seem like Bloober or whoever suggested the change was trying to give her weight gain issues.
The fact that they did listen to the feedback of the combat trailer does have me a bit hopeful that they'll tweak Angela's face so it it's not so comically puffy looking. And hopefully they'll also add some color to Maria's outfit. She doesn't have to be dressed quite like Christina Aguilera as she was before, but the outfit right now just feels drab and lifeless, lacking part of what makes her stand in contrast to Mary, who is the one that was meant to be "boring" due to her illness keeping her dressed in an unappealing way. Of course, only time will tell if they manage to turns things around or if this remake winds up being like the Resident Evil 3 remake; okay, but vastly inferior to the original game it was based on.
Konami couldn't do a decent port to the ps3 and 360 and they expect a good remake? People will never learn!
That's the problem most people weighing in are not true fans and they are easy to spot. You will never see a true fan of silent hill compare it to resident evil...they completely different franchises the only similarity is that they are survival horror games. That's all. Before silent hill was thing people started to compare both and the fans who really played both games knew the ones who didn't play were talking shit...the people now want silent hill to be a resident evil...but silent hill never were...the environment and the thread is there...they are on the right path.
Angela is not a prostitute
It's more important to treasure the original game. the experience of these game will always be different compared to their remakes/remasters.
Konami also wanted to pivot from profitable IP to total insolvency.
Looking at The Medium, you can tell they wanted to put the dynamic camera view in SH2R. Konami, being Konami though, told them, "No, we want over the shoulder only." because, Resident Evil.
I'm also starting to get the impression, they cut Eddie out. I suppose that's better than race swapping him, and calling him D-ed because he makes folk he don't like, DED- dead.
Hit detection, most likely had him eating fried chicken, instead of pizza, and Bloober was like, "It's better if we just.....don't."
You're arguing on the basis that anything that you don't see in the trailer is automatically cut content.
@@Artician I'm pointing out that they showed every other character, but him.
Seems we need to be reminded that sometimes the developers are their own worst enemy.
We will see about 48 hours before normal release if it’s good or worth buying. All the people buying the digital deluxe will show us what’s happening.
I have been waiting since 2001 for a proper SH2 remake. Unfortunately the are pandering to 0.00001% of the community who doesn't care about the series (mind you I've been a fan of SH games since the demo disk in 1998 from a PSX magazine, I still have the demo disc that has SH1 demo inside of it).
Same with Resident Evil 2, I would've loved a proper RE2 remake made in the same style as RE1 rebirth (remake of Directors Cut for Gamecube in 2001/2002 with added extras and more lore to the story).
This is why whenever they mention "For the Modern Audiences" they mean the normies/SJW's and Eternal Product Consooomers who don't give two shits about what made these games great.
ummm thats angela. not maria...
Why am I 100% sure that money changed hands behind the scenes in order to provoke people to advocate for the destruction of their creation. In another 20 years, no one will remember Silent Hill after this abomination.
Im worried man; have you seen that weird pol chart with games saying which ones were trans right issue ones...? They had silent hill and other classics I love on there; it's like homie... how the hell... I analyzed the HELL out of these games and maybe because of my manly perception of things due to me building a chuck of TORONTO I am inclined to believe these people ate the propaganda numo fruit and have* devil fruit powers of their own. (Im half kidding but serious here)
Where's the list m lord?
That probably is more general and not about the uglification
I don't think I buy this. Maybe Konami corp execs but the actual team that made the original I highly doubt it. I need some evidence, not just words. If the original team that developed the game wanted to make changes I could only think of them wanting to make improvements to their original to utilize the updated tech. If they want to make something different, then use an original idea and don't bastardize an existing IP. I still won't buy it. If anything I'll wait until it's on sale if the impartial reviews are favorable not the reviews from these bought and paid for "gaming journalists". Were any of these consulting companies involved? If so why have they not disclosed that? Again if so they aren't getting my money. I will not supports a dev team that hates me openly or works with teams that openly hate me. Thanks for the break down it has informed me enough to want to look further into this.
Several former members of Team Silent worked on the Short Message, and thegamingmuse's video elaborates on that one.
@@mr.sinjin-smyth I'll check it out, thanks.
It's a common trend among developers who regret certain decisions. For example, Guilty Gear's creator regrets not making Strive (the latest installment) easier. Regardless of what you might think of that sentiment and the fact that Strive is already inherently easier than previous installments, he would absolutely go back and completely change the game if it were possible/feasible.
@@Artician I understand that for sure. Like them wanting to fix any plot holes or add content they were forced to cut or like you said fixing a gaming mechanic they felt was wrong. I just don't see them wanting to add stuff that doesn't add to the story or making changes that actually take away from it in one way or another. It just seems like they're hedging their bets in case it doesn't receive such a warm reception after release and bloober can shift the blame to the original devs then they can shift the blame to the execs at komani. The blame train. But I still gotta read what the og devs actually said. That's just what it looks like to me.
But didn't bloober do the same thing?
Man, SH2 is the most depressing story in a game ever.
Don't give your money to people who hate you, and don't expect good video games from a pachinko company.
Perfectly stated.
I basically feel what you're saying but yes you did confuse Angela and Maria and you may wanna go back and finish the original game. It is fun, a classic and you can get several interesting endings. Maria was not a prostitute but a fantasy projected by James of his late Wife and Angela was the Young Woman who looked older due to the incessant abuse she experienced at the hands of her Father. The way they are changing things reminds me in a round-about way of how michael bay so drastically changed the source material when he adapated TRANSFORMERS: a ton of drastic surface cosmetic changes that convey a lack of understanding of the original concept and all the sigificant details that define it. Thanks.
Yeah, I was younger at the time so I may revisit the series at some point.
I find it so funny when people like this get outraged and they clearly have no idea what they’re talking about 😂
SH Trilogy. Only ones that matter, and best played in order.
The fourth game is just as good. If anything it's not even the least-good game of the og 4
@JesusGomez-ob2qt it's good but I disagree it's as good as 1-3, but after 4 the series crashes without Konami's Team Silent
I don't blindly trust everything Bloober Team writes. People write a lot when the heat is on.
Also, when working with Japan, a lot can be lost in translation for westernern Studios, especially nuances.
Heck even in a team where everyone speaks the same language sometimes people don't get their point across.
I doubt Konami is self destructive enough to tell a studio to make their game worse - they want to make money after all.
You have a point.
5 Things:
1. It goes to show that Japanese developers don't always have perfect ideas either. But the difference is they are WAY more open to compromise and change than the west, who always just double down and immediately go into 'fight mode" with the audience.
2. But I can understand older devs wanting to do something new. That's natural for anyone creative who has done something they've already done before. The fact that remakes even happen is a demand from the publishers, not them. These are cash grabs that have made the industry stagnant.
3. Bloober Team, as superfans should hopefully help to preserve what we loved about SH2, but being a fan, and being talented are two different things. I bought The Medium and it's not great. Handing them Silent Hill feels like failing upward, and I liken it to giving someone the keys to a Ferrari, even though they didn't pass their driver's test.
4. You've got Maria and Angela backwards, but the point still stands. Even small alterations drastically change the point of why the characters were the way they were. The nurses, too, which they've decided to cover up and make less curvy. Everything in Silent Hill 2 had a meaning!
5. Playing FF7's currently. Chadley drives me nuts. Was he in the original? He's like your dweeby boss, and I want Cloud to beat him up, lol.
Fuck no, chadley was not in the original. I can't stand that little asshole lol.
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why would konami want drastic changes?
Good question.
That Chinese Monkey King game looks better than this woke remake 😂 and I'll be pre ordering the deluxe edition for Monkey King !
Nah, i don't trust Bloober as well. They are affiliated with Hit detect. Bloober could've pitched some bs to Konami as to why the designs need to change, and if they don't the "modern audience" won't be pleased, thus leading to the game failling in the west. Konami would easily bite on such a statement given how they were and still are stupid enough to outsource the ip, instead of going the MGS3 remake route which is a mainly in-house supervised remake.
Im right there with u @mugenlord. Im not gonna lie, i thought silent hill 2 was a poor man's resident evil😂😂😂. I really didn't get into silent hill until the room and homecoming. Those were the ones i got mad far in, but didn't beat. Ill probably take a look into the remake.
RE was just everything to me and still is my #1 series. Ill put it like this. Ive play just about every RE game tht has come out on console(no handhelds except for the 3ds mercenaries game), tht even includes freaking dead aim(game was so damn good) and chonicles. I literally went on eBay as a yound lad and bought a gamecube just to play all the RE games on it, its definitely my most played series😂😂.
You say, "Silent Hill is a poor man's RE," then you proceed to say you weren't into it until you played THE WORST SH game ever made, Homecoming. Even Downpour had more redeeming qualities than Homecoming. That's how bad that game was. Also, you just confessed you've never beaten a single SH game in your life... so why should we take your word for it? I adore The Room just as much as 1-3, but don't speak as if know SH. They're not the same thing, and this is coming from an avid RE, SH, and survival horrors in general since the 90s.
@WildDogGamerBoy 🤣🤣🤣. bro, I was literally a kid when I played SH and thought that, and change my mind later down the line. U may not like those SH games, but I did. I can careless if u take my word or not, I dont seek validation🤣🤣. I know SH not re, literally why I didn't like them at first until later on. Its funny how i probably have the same time played as mugenlord with SH2. I thought it was like re and found out it wasn't and wasnt feeling it. It's not that serious🤣🤣🤣
Well silent hill DID start off being a RE rip-off. But I think Silent Hill has the better games (speaking purely on the first four) I'm currently re-playing RE3 lol
This is confusing me, what do the OG developers want? They should just give the fans what they want. Also they should of kept the fixed camera angles.
Forget the fugly remake I've got the GZDOOM .pk3 script of Silent Mound to enjoy & Total Chaos to get my Japanese survival horror fix for a lifetime.
I hope the remake is good, silent hill mfs haven't ate good in a minute
Literally 10 years 😭
All the “ugly” controversies are so silly. Please look at it from the artist’s perspective, they seek to craft something that satisfies them artistically. Any new direction is working toward that, whether they are going for something new or grounded. Nothing to do with woke
They receive nothing but positive feedback when they stick to the original as much as possible, they should probably do something with that…
I don't trust NicheGamer
the japanese be coonin' for the west.
in all seriousness the gameplay of this remake looks alright but i rather play the original.
You haven’t played the game, bro. Ammo was not scarce. The problem is people are talmbout the one game you cannot be ignorant of.
What is the one game?
@@Hobolore silent Hill 2.
I am open mind , maybe this game are good , I finished many times the old games
I don't care whats happening behind the scenes, I don't like the final product and I'm not buying it.
Not buying rebirth and not buying this. HD collection or gtfo
Lol
This game will be crap. Way too many red flags.
I'm skeptical of this, Bloober's Medium was not good and very on the nose.
I honestly have 0 interest, my interest is PS2 Silent Hill 3. My PS2 is connected to a Sony Trinitron PVM-CRT in my 1988-2005 classic Room.
the problem with your argument is that the game is being changed by sweet baby inc consulting. they are making the game more modern and woke. ff vill remake and rebirth were made woke too. there were lgbt elements in them both
How?! Sweet baby Inc had no involvement in both games. FFVII has no woke stuff into it. What are you on about?
@@HupCapNinja actually it does. Cloud cross dressing. There is a screenshot of lesbians in the background holding hands. You just ain't paying attention
Lgbt people simply existing in media, isn't going "woke" btw, you're just a bigot
@@leonarddement3432Cloud Cross dressed in the original game, what are you on about? Have you played the original or are you a tourist just like the woke who weigh in on topics they know nothing about? The original even had a suggestive homo erotic special bath scene as well.
@@MugenLord calling me woke when you don't know me shows your ignorance. Sweet baby inc consults for square. I have seen the video reviews on RUclips
But all this simps of wokeness told me that the "remake" is gonna be kept the same even that they changed almost everything from the original! And I'm not a real fan 😔
This community is so toxic, bc they still believe they know more than the OG creators, not a big surprise, happened even on 2003.
But it's not toxic to take an existing IP and completely ruin it through censorship or by inserting unnecessary political ideology which has no foundation in facts or reality and deceive people into supporting and purchasing it through false advertising and misrepresenting the content of the product and who is involved with the development? It seems a bit more toxic to me to do that than some people online criticizing their decision making, stories, and final product. Projection is a hell of a drug.
@@happenstance7530 Read before comment, this happened even on 2003. This isn't about DEI, this SH2 is a cursed game.
@@LosMSR OK, that's the only type of toxic stuff I've seen in the community lately. What happened in 03?
@happenstance7530 SH2 was originally was actually not well received by fans because it didn't connect to the first game, and SH3 was supposed to be a darker game much like the 2nd, and was considered to be a "better" version of SH2, it was too dark and deep for ppl so they scrapped the entire thing and we got what we have now aswell since fans still wanted a continuation of the first game. And SH4 was hated but now it's retro-actively considered a great game by fans and critics alike. But I still have my doubts on this game too
@@JesusGomez-ob2qt Oh, Ok I knew that but I don't remember it being toxic just fans complaining they weren't getting what they thought they were getting. It's not like they boycotted Konami and forced them into bankruptcy or spread malicious lies and slander to ruin their careers. They complained and the company tried to correct to maintain sales numbers. I don't think the devs had anything to do with the decision it probably came from the higher ups. Now did the complaints curtail the devs creativity or original ideas? Kind of I guess but the choice was ultimately made by the execs and the devs were subject to their whims because of contractual obligations. I think the first 4 were all great in their own right even though they were forced to change mid way through one or two of them. If all that didn't happen, we wouldn't have got the games we did.
For the love of god, just make a new game then! Make a side story or a spin off. I hate FF7R with a passion. I've been a fan of FF since 1987, and until recently FF13 was the one FF game I could not stand. Worst in the series! FF7 Remake/Rebirth blew that out of the water! I hate that it even exists because it will forever be a stain on the entire series. If they want to change Silent Hill so much, just make a different side story. That makes more sense than changing an established lore! If you don't maintain lore you don't have a franchise, and changing lore makes you lose customers!
So your saying that they should make a shitty game with a new story instead? Your saying you would rather that they put the final nail in the coffin for an entire game series? Because doing what you are implying they should do would likely mean that you would never see a rerelease of any prior game. You will never see a new game in the franchise ever again because you decided that changing the story was worse than killing the franchise. Had final fantasy 7 remake sold poorly, Square Enix would have gone bankrupt by now, just like the time they nearly went bankrupt by creating the movie final fantasy the spirits within. And by your own logic, your suggesting that Capcom should have risked cancelling the resident evil series instead of allowing a remake of both re 2 and re 4 to be made which did in fact change the lore. Spider man for the ps4 was a remake. DId you hear any one whining about how it wasn't related to the original spiderman on game cube or playstation? Look at at what happened to the front mission game series! It died because people like you insisted that they created a new game that for all intents and purposes, was completely unrelated to any prior game entries, containing no references to the prior games. Front mission evolved destroyed the franchise. It is a miracle that we even got a game that had any connection to it more recently, but that game didn't do all that well because you weren't allowed to get inside a wanzer and have some mech action. Had square enix just created a remake of the third game or the fourth game, it probably would have done better. Just because a game is a remake does not mean that there are not bigger stains on the series that you reference. Tomb raider angel of darkness was a disaster for the tombraider franchise. The remake did way better than it. And the remake changed the entire backstory! Soul caliber 6 is in fact a remake that essentially retcons the entire franchise and starts over.
I get it, remakes can be problematic. The remake of Perfect Dark is a text book example of ruining absolutely everything that made the original so incredible. But on the other hand, some remakes end up being much better than their original release. God of war for the ps4 is a remake as it does in fact retcon a lot of the original titles while still providing some references to some of their plot points. A soft reboot is still by definition a remake. And sometimes a soft reboot is better than trying to correct the biggest F*** ups from preceding titles. Not all lore should be maintained. Not all story lines are perfect. And honestly, I am worried that the second remake of perfect dark is probably going to be as awful as the one that killed the series before it could even get a sequel. These god awful remakes wouldn't be as terrible if you people spent more time grouping together and requesting it be done properly. This silent hill 2 remake looks promising even if it does divert from its source material. My point being that it could be much worse. Castlevania lords of shadow 2 killed castlevania. If you do not speak up earlier on in the development period, this is how you end up with bad results. The silent hill 2 remake has likely been in development for more than 3 years. And only now do you choose to complain. People also talk about how silent hill P.T was a great game, despite the fact that it has spawned so many similar indie games to the point that is less silent hill and more of a new genre of game, which can be seen as good and bad depending on who you ask. I could go on and on but I think I have made my point here.
@@josephlh1690 Don't have time to read a wall of text, but based on your first sentence: No. Id prefer they make a new game with a new story instead of taking an old game with a good story and wrecking it.
@@snappertrx That was already tried with Origins, Homecoming, Downpour, Short Message, and look at their "amazing" sales and reception. Also, Silent Hill F, the latest mainline game for series is on the way. A new game will just get compared to older games anyway in terms of story quality and lore, so what difference does it make??? Might as well also reintroduce one of the better older games with a fresh coat of paint, since the Resident Evil Remakes set the tone for what is big business right now. So why pass up such an opportunity? The older games are always there for you to go back to if you don't like the remake.
@@mr.sinjin-smyth Because much like with FF7R, they won't do a 1/1 remake, they will modify it for the "modern audience" and still make it a bad game. Hence you piss off the majority of people who were waiting for a remaster. Is the better option to take an older game that people love and make it trash? If making a new game = trash and remaking an old game as trash then we will all end up with trash. Seems odd to pigeonhole yourself into pissing everyone off when you can just make a proper remaster. Old fans are happy, new fans get the experience and the developer makes money, but I guess I'm just old school like that. I like the option where everyone wins. Not sure why this suddenly is anathema to both developers and modern gamers.
@@snappertrx Honestly, they went overboard with the FF7 Remakes, but that's on the original developers who wanted to change story in a another direction, while the youngsters wanted to keep the core aspect of the game the same. It's very much the same in the case for SH2's remake in many ways. The positive in all of this is that it has led to now a growing demand to see older games get remastered with significant modern QOL aspect included, with the original Tomb Raider remasters being a perfect example. The Thing (2001 game) is now also getting a remaster along with Fear Effect also getting a remaster. There's a possibly Konami might consider giving original Silent Hill 1-3 remasters somewhere down the line, since there's also a possibility that Capcom might do the same for original RE 1-3. So you'll never know what comes next. Seeing 20-30 year old games getting QOL remasters might be the best thing for this current gaming era since most of the newer games just plain suck.
my rule is pretty simple: if your game has ugly women, I don't buy it.
I have a legit question for everyone who loves horror games and action games, is anyone really surprised that game companies remaking popular franchises hate you but love your money?