02:22 Strange how the poc has shadow projection and the version of the trailer that was supposed to be the final one doesn't have any. The nurse's shadow in this part has no distortion regardless of the angle of the flashlight. It looks like they put a hardcoded shadow on the 3D model itself, which is a bit weird when they promoted, produced the game in UE5 which has global illumination lumen.
Next scene has though ruclips.net/video/lUMvWG_M2PQ/видео.html&ab_channel=PlayStation min 7:58 the ceiling light is casting a shadow beneath her and James's flashlight is casting shadows on the wall
@@santinodurizzotto2372 You're right, this scene has dynamic lighting. I'm noticing an inconsistency in this lighting issue. In the same trailer that you sent at min 10:15, if you notice the table has a shadow edge attached to the table and instead of it moving as James approaches, in fact the shadow it suffers a transparency effect, that is, it is not dynamic. It may be that some objects have dynamic light treatment and others do not.
@@wagnerabrantes4034 Oh now that I think about it there may be a clear reason. The trailer footage is 30fps so maybe the demonstration is running on a PS5 instead of a PC and some shadows are lacking as a result of performance compromises
I know we haven't seen the final product from Bloober yet, but I wonder how it would've turned out if Konami chose HexaDrive to make it instead. They have a decent list of projects they've worked on. Konami's decisions are baffling.
I think these are great finds. I always questioned if the leaks from back then really came from a Bloober Team Prototype and was quite sure, after HeyaDrive released their footage, it came from their Mock-Prototype. But looking the comparison screens here now, we know for sure that this material came from the Bloober Team Prototype. Kinda surprised how much they sticked to this Prorotype in the final build that will be released.
I am disappointed that Hexadrive had to cancel their take on SH2 Remake. While I didn't like The Short Message I do think that seeing that footage of their game could have led to a better game possibly. Then again the team behind the Metal Gear Solid 3 Remake is showing that they're giving Delta the exact treatment Silent Hill 2 Remake should have be getting.
Did you watched this video ruclips.net/video/VLAZGnGNSCk/видео.htmlsi=fJ_Od2NZRLvujc2C ? It looks like a better version than what was shown in the gameplay video of sh2 remake. I think that the gameplay video shows beta content,the same thing happened in the combat trailer
The only good thing coming from hexadrive's demo is James' look. Everything else looks off, the lighting of the apartment, the environment looking too clean making the blood splatters seem unsurprising. You could dismiss it as "oh its just a demo of course it looks bad" but its a pitch, a proof of concept, yes the graphics can be bad but at least bloober's pitch got the look right, the cold atmosphere and rough environment. Bloober had a way better reputation in terms of sales, the genres they were doing and relations. Though this doesn't make me trust konami in any way I still hate them, but I have hope in bloober.
This is the first time I saw any footage of the Bloober and Hexadrive demos. Good job and thanks for sharing! Hexadrive seem to have missed the point of the environment though, it doesn't give the right SH2 vibes. In this case I say Konami did right not to entrust SH2 with them.
i like these other sh2 versions compared to the slop were getting..seeing how their ruining sh2 makes me no longer want a silent hill 3 remake as i've seen what they've done to the female characters injecting woke into it....i'd rather not have a ugly heather mason.. heather and sh3 is one of my favorite games of all time. but i'd rather not see a cursed remake of it.
I actually think that The Short Message was rock solid, just made to appeal to a different generation of gamers and maybe not especially for the Silent Hill fanatics. But the designs were top notch and the otherworld was one of the best since the older games. Saying that, the story did not come von HexaDrive but was created internaly at Konami and was directed by the new Silent Hill producer Motoi Okamoto, working for Konami. The material for a Silent Hill 2 Remake pitch was created by HexaDrive in a very short time during a time Konami already had a deal with Bloober Team. I would love to see if Konami is giving HexaDrive some ressources, what they might be able to do with their very own project.
@@theangrygamer1232 I'm 37 and always open for new stuff. It wasn't P.T. (not even the slightest) but an improvement over crap like Homecoming and Downpour. It's free, no one was hurt by the game.
I heard about and saw this early demo footage before, I was very sad when all talk of it disappeared as I love silent hill and not only want the old games remastered/remade on current platforms but also new games. I thought the short message was good(as different as it was it was definitely a tragedy and felt like silent hill in tone, it was pretty hardcore really)I hope more people actually play and finish it to see that(some people were turned off by the gameplay but as a person who has played all the games I feel the difference was ok for a side title and I also didn't mind the "shattered remake of silent hill one that nintendo got and later ps. I just want more silent hill and I am glad it is finally coming around 😎👌 I remember how excited I was when I read about the first game in psm and pre ordered the game at software etc. And then finally getting it and playing, good times. I also waited in line to get silent hill 2 when it released and was blown away again...I hope thos remake sells(ugly faces or not)cuz we need silent hill back in a big way 🙏
Angela and Maria need more work, their heads are too big compared to the rest of their bodies. The combat needs to be toned down... This isn't an action game. Otherwise the graphics look absolutely amazing and it's how I would imagine a real-life Silent Hill town would look like.
Dust Golem is really an amazing guy. Who has an awesome talent of tracking down beta game development. Really goes to show how much they delivered for this remake. Got me excited to play this on Halloween month.
Ok boomer. Its too early to tell but from the trailers it looks fantastic. Remaking the worst of the core four first was a weird choice but I'm optimistic.
@@Benzona I didn't understand shit about the games when I was young but they gave me nightmares for months and I've been obsessed with psychological horror since then. I saw the action gameplay in the trailers for the remake and it really didn't feel like the same game anymore...
@@iroquoiskaram8639 Have you ever seen the original 2001 trailers for Silent Hill 2? It's pretty normal to focus on the combat system same as they did back then, it doesn't necessarily mean its going to be an RE4 level departure from horror to be a big dumb action game
@darkdude4125 the current build is missing a lot of the charm of the original like the army patches on the jacket, and the nurses seem to be more based on the post sh3 sexy nurses. Fuck this game.
@@Bigdumbidiotguy Have you played the original? If you did you'd see the remake nurse is almost 1:1 of it, and Masahiro ito the monster designer for 2 is making it sooo..?
Man, James model in the cancelled version was so nice and loyal to the original game... Why they change? The things they do right they cancel... Very sad!!! Why do they put this Angela in the game we saw in the last Silent Hill Transmission??? The wrong things they maintain. Never understand KONAMI's "mind"... 🥲
Every now and then i get on a Silent Hill kick and it can last for months lol. Here i am again.
I'm happy to hear I'm not the only one c,:
Word brother 😏
you just like me fr!
Me too, this time I played through the original silent hill 2 with my gf watching, she's now deep into SH2 iceberg and analysis vids
@@jaxaaz6469 Couple goals fr
This is very interesting, never heard of any of this before - thanks for sharing!
02:22 Strange how the poc has shadow projection and the version of the trailer that was supposed to be the final one doesn't have any. The nurse's shadow in this part has no distortion regardless of the angle of the flashlight. It looks like they put a hardcoded shadow on the 3D model itself, which is a bit weird when they promoted, produced the game in UE5 which has global illumination lumen.
Next scene has though ruclips.net/video/lUMvWG_M2PQ/видео.html&ab_channel=PlayStation min 7:58 the ceiling light is casting a shadow beneath her and James's flashlight is casting shadows on the wall
@@santinodurizzotto2372 You're right, this scene has dynamic lighting. I'm noticing an inconsistency in this lighting issue. In the same trailer that you sent at min 10:15, if you notice the table has a shadow edge attached to the table and instead of it moving as James approaches, in fact the shadow it suffers a transparency effect, that is, it is not dynamic. It may be that some objects have dynamic light treatment and others do not.
@@wagnerabrantes4034 Oh now that I think about it there may be a clear reason. The trailer footage is 30fps so maybe the demonstration is running on a PS5 instead of a PC and some shadows are lacking as a result of performance compromises
I know we haven't seen the final product from Bloober yet, but I wonder how it would've turned out if Konami chose HexaDrive to make it instead. They have a decent list of projects they've worked on. Konami's decisions are baffling.
I'd take BlooberTeam over HexaDrive any day. After Shart Message and Turd Birthday they need to stay far away from Silent Hill.
@@SpookyDollhouse😭😭😭😭😭
Woow the footage james from other looks legit af
I think these are great finds. I always questioned if the leaks from back then really came from a Bloober Team Prototype and was quite sure, after HeyaDrive released their footage, it came from their Mock-Prototype. But looking the comparison screens here now, we know for sure that this material came from the Bloober Team Prototype. Kinda surprised how much they sticked to this Prorotype in the final build that will be released.
Actually looks like James.
fr, remake james looks perfect
@@therealhomelanderfd6kj
I think he meant the other one.
Tripping
Blobber Remake James looks perfect. Dont know what the fuck your on about. Constant annoying silent hill fan negativity.
@@IvoryiGoLDeNBlobber remake James looks amazing, but he reminds me a little to much of Leon from RE 2 Remake😂
I am disappointed that Hexadrive had to cancel their take on SH2 Remake. While I didn't like The Short Message I do think that seeing that footage of their game could have led to a better game possibly. Then again the team behind the Metal Gear Solid 3 Remake is showing that they're giving Delta the exact treatment Silent Hill 2 Remake should have be getting.
Probably because it's made by people who worked on the OG game (mgs3)
I still wish this game sells well.
I want a Silent Hill 3 remake.
Its my favourite Silent Hill game and the very first PS2 game I played.😢
Cool video! A cool thing you might not know is that WayForward did a Silent Hill 2 proof of concept for the Nintendo DS way back in 2006.
Where can I look at this Silent Hill 2 Nintendo DS?
@thepressotm5048 just look up wayforward slient hill
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@@thepressotm5048 ruclips.net/video/SQ4Htc-gwRg/видео.htmlsi=ppVktR44QdOLCjqR
It was actually proof of concept for a silent hill game using James model
Hadn't seen any of this before but I'm not one to follow leaks to be honest ha
Did you watched this video ruclips.net/video/VLAZGnGNSCk/видео.htmlsi=fJ_Od2NZRLvujc2C ? It looks like a better version than what was shown in the gameplay video of sh2 remake. I think that the gameplay video shows beta content,the same thing happened in the combat trailer
konami's downfall might be not pursuing hexadrive to do the remake, what a weird monkeys paw
The only good thing coming from hexadrive's demo is James' look. Everything else looks off, the lighting of the apartment, the environment looking too clean making the blood splatters seem unsurprising. You could dismiss it as "oh its just a demo of course it looks bad" but its a pitch, a proof of concept, yes the graphics can be bad but at least bloober's pitch got the look right, the cold atmosphere and rough environment. Bloober had a way better reputation in terms of sales, the genres they were doing and relations. Though this doesn't make me trust konami in any way I still hate them, but I have hope in bloober.
@@Xuffy0904 And yet I still like it more than Blooberteam's trash.
@@Kageryushin good on you man 👍
@@Kageryushin who hurt you?
@@casbinwat Blooberteam. I thought that was obvious?
This is the first time I saw any footage of the Bloober and Hexadrive demos. Good job and thanks for sharing! Hexadrive seem to have missed the point of the environment though, it doesn't give the right SH2 vibes. In this case I say Konami did right not to entrust SH2 with them.
The original characters had a unique charm. They were elegant yet exuded an unsettling, almost eerie presence. In REMAKE, they just look... goofy.
I have the ps2 version and og xbox they both have way more fog in the town
I cant get enough of
bloopers version of silent hill 2 remake is still good idc what people say
I would love to see a Shattered Memories-like remake of SH2.
lmao this version is more faithful than the supposed faithful bloober version
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I live in this town that has taken over my dreams
No way, I started renting a place in blue creek, we just meet in heaven night for a drinkiepoo
SH can only be Japanese. We don’t need a polish bootleg
Silent Hill hasn't been Japanese since 2004.
@@symphony137 yes, that’s the point.
@@mihaelkennedythe American ones were good lol
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i like these other sh2 versions compared to the slop were getting..seeing how their ruining sh2 makes me no longer want a silent hill 3 remake as i've seen what they've done to the female characters injecting woke into it....i'd rather not have a ugly heather mason.. heather and sh3 is one of my favorite games of all time. but i'd rather not see a cursed remake of it.
I can’t find the outro song anywhere and it’s making me go crazy 💀
Link to the Music will always be in the descreption!
@@silenthillarchives The artist is linked but you might have mistitled the song name, can't find a "Room 13" anywhere on their channel
@@static7579seconding this, what song is it?
found it its called [FREE] silent hill x cry of fear type beat - "room13" on a channel called myss
@@type.silver thank you 💯
THANK GOD they changed devs. Having the guys who made Silent Message make the REMAKE would have ACTUALLY been a disaster
I actually think that The Short Message was rock solid, just made to appeal to a different generation of gamers and maybe not especially for the Silent Hill fanatics. But the designs were top notch and the otherworld was one of the best since the older games. Saying that, the story did not come von HexaDrive but was created internaly at Konami and was directed by the new Silent Hill producer Motoi Okamoto, working for Konami. The material for a Silent Hill 2 Remake pitch was created by HexaDrive in a very short time during a time Konami already had a deal with Bloober Team. I would love to see if Konami is giving HexaDrive some ressources, what they might be able to do with their very own project.
@@TheAufziehvogelI'm really glad you liked that garbage people my age who actually like the series thought it was fkn 🗑️.
@@theangrygamer1232 I'm 37 and always open for new stuff. It wasn't P.T. (not even the slightest) but an improvement over crap like Homecoming and Downpour. It's free, no one was hurt by the game.
@@theangrygamer1232 name checks out
I live in hell there is no hell oxymoron
Isn’t it supposed to look scary 😂 they ruined it.
I heard about and saw this early demo footage before, I was very sad when all talk of it disappeared as I love silent hill and not only want the old games remastered/remade on current platforms but also new games. I thought the short message was good(as different as it was it was definitely a tragedy and felt like silent hill in tone, it was pretty hardcore really)I hope more people actually play and finish it to see that(some people were turned off by the gameplay but as a person who has played all the games I feel the difference was ok for a side title and I also didn't mind the "shattered remake of silent hill one that nintendo got and later ps. I just want more silent hill and I am glad it is finally coming around 😎👌 I remember how excited I was when I read about the first game in psm and pre ordered the game at software etc. And then finally getting it and playing, good times. I also waited in line to get silent hill 2 when it released and was blown away again...I hope thos remake sells(ugly faces or not)cuz we need silent hill back in a big way 🙏
The canceled vr still not different than the new RE4 style
whenever yoy say "silent" sounds like youre saying "sih ent"
Odd that I actually miss James patches logically it doesn’t matter it’s just my expectations lol
Every time I saw it silent hills 2 remake game I remember broken sword games
Angela and Maria need more work, their heads are too big compared to the rest of their bodies.
The combat needs to be toned down... This isn't an action game.
Otherwise the graphics look absolutely amazing and it's how I would imagine a real-life Silent Hill town would look like.
I live in this town silent hill it's life our personal hell our personal life our personal nothing
ahs
in a dlc driven time. can't wait till a dlc of the original model for the characters ends up coming out.
well it wouldve been better than the short message anyway
Dust Golem is really an amazing guy. Who has an awesome talent of tracking down beta game development. Really goes to show how much they delivered for this remake. Got me excited to play this on Halloween month.
The short message was garbage and ascension was absolute trash. My faith in Konami and bloober is on thin ice
I read the title and thought the remake got cancelled.
I wish anyway. They're gonna massacre everything good about the original.
Ok boomer. Its too early to tell but from the trailers it looks fantastic.
Remaking the worst of the core four first was a weird choice but I'm optimistic.
@@Benzona bruh I'm 21 but I started playing these games since I was 5
@@iroquoiskaram8639 Oh well I'm 22 and first played the games back in around 2014, I just finished replaying 1-4 in preparation for the remake .
@@Benzona I didn't understand shit about the games when I was young but they gave me nightmares for months and I've been obsessed with psychological horror since then.
I saw the action gameplay in the trailers for the remake and it really didn't feel like the same game anymore...
@@iroquoiskaram8639 Have you ever seen the original 2001 trailers for Silent Hill 2? It's pretty normal to focus on the combat system same as they did back then, it doesn't necessarily mean its going to be an RE4 level departure from horror to be a big dumb action game
neat.
"builds our ambitions"?
That is absolutely not a proper use of the word.
Please edit your scripts, they sound scrambled.
The images look 1 to 1 with the remake absolutely no difference
1:05 looks a lot more authentic to the original, then DEI came into the picture.
Nope, Ito san probably wanted it to be more in line with the sh3 and onwards design.
You use DEI unironically. Yikes
@@Imxel21 people who do that scare me.
the nurses even have the red square, that motif is probably going to be completely gone
They still have it
@darkdude4125 the current build is missing a lot of the charm of the original like the army patches on the jacket, and the nurses seem to be more based on the post sh3 sexy nurses.
Fuck this game.
@@Bigdumbidiotguy the fuck are you talking about? Masahiro Ito is back on monster design and the nurses are the fucking same
@@Bigdumbidiotguy Have you played the original? If you did you'd see the remake nurse is almost 1:1 of it, and Masahiro ito the monster designer for 2 is making it sooo..?
@@Bigdumbidiotguythe OG monster designer is consulting on it, what reason would he have to change it.
Man, James model in the cancelled version was so nice and loyal to the original game... Why they change?
The things they do right they cancel... Very sad!!!
Why do they put this Angela in the game we saw in the last Silent Hill Transmission??? The wrong things they maintain. Never understand KONAMI's "mind"... 🥲