On the whole it did get me excited and definitely helped sell Matt Smith as Daemon a bit more. However still. I like the fact they're trying to make the throne more lore accurate. Corlys and the Velaryon didn't look as bad as i thought they would. However, the wigs still seemed questionable. I'm still concerned how they will handle the race swap and the wider lore implications but i'm open to seeing how they handle it. One this that caught my eyes is Rhaenys hair. What always found the Black Baratheon hair with the purple eyes quite striking, so her hair color was a bit disappointing. But i guess it's not clear if its supposed to be Targaryen silver or her hair is just grey. On that note, the lack of purple eyes, in general, was something im sad they didn't try and do. So yeah i like it, still, a lot that worries me but a good start. They will have a hard time winning people back after season 8 i think but it vital they get the pace of the show right. It can't move through the timeline too slow, but it can't move to quick like the Witcher did. Going to be a fine balance to get right. I plan on making a more detailed video about the trailer in the next week
@@WorldOfWesteros Well they probably didn't give them purple eyes for continuity reasons. Since the main series already established the Targaryens had green or blue eyes. You would have to explain why Daenerys, Viserys, and Rhaegar didn't have purple eyes but the Targaryens on HOD does.
@@20PINKluvr but dany only burned kings landing… This was a war crime beyond war crimes. Men and children laaughtered, any female at ALL young, old, silent sister anll dragged out and raped repeatedly
Considering hotd season one ending, it might actually been just the dragons that suddenly decided to change sides, and Alf and Hughes just went with it cause they were scared.
Nah, that's a different story. Vhagar disobeyed cause she was upset with Arrax blasting her in the face with dragonfire. In this case, the riders wouldn't have issue with deciding which enemies were the ones worth burning.
One thing is the dragon having a "change of mood" on the middle of a pursuit. Anther is the treason of two pieces of sh*ts riders that shouldnt ve been trusted on the first place
@@joaop4585 Perhaps, though it's food for thought in regards to whether they sided with Aegon II since they felt slighted by Rhaenyra, like how Corlys and Daemon left Viserys' court without his leave to fight in the Stepstones. That said, yeah you may have a point as well but, I suppose there's more ways to speculate, perhaps But yeah, the Dragons here definitely weren't just choosing who to burn on a whim, as they've never done so before. What happened with Vhagar against Arrax was a different matter entirely.
@@thalmoragent9344 Agreed, furthermore in the books it was definitely the riders as they are unashamed afterwards and expect rewards, and remember in the books Vhagar didn't disobey, Aemond actually wanted to kill Rhaenyra's son. They changed it so that the greens don't look too nasty.
Glad you like it, love your content. I made it myself based on the version from The Lands Of Ice And Fire. It's a ongoing project. The file size is getting s bit hard to work with honestly. Right now i'm reworking Westeros a bit, adding missing places, tidying up the place names and colour blending a bit.
Alicent really chose the wrong choice of words when she said 'bastards blood' like she had to know saying that wasn't going to convince Rhaenyra to pardon Alicent's son's. She could've kept that particular part to herself.
@@Captain_Insano_nomercy Lmao facts Still, it's a shame for Team Green fans too, cause of what's to come. RIP Vermithor, Tessarion and Seasmoke. As well as Daeron.
@@Captain_Insano_nomercyIt definitly will be. Im curious to see how they present there betrayals when they arrive at Tumbleton. It will be more shocking if the audience doesn't know that they will betray Rhaenyra. But they have to give some kinda of hint that might lead the audience to suspition
I still don’t get why they would turn when they did. The Greens were all but finished. This was one of their last armies and they had lost most of their leadership after the Butcher’s Ball and Aemond’s death.
@Nicholas Evan Sirait So basically, they saw the Black's history of assassinations (and Daemon killing whoever he wanted) and the fact the Black's weren't gonna repay their loyalty/favor for their troubles and decided "yeah, we'll go with the Greens instead"? Seems reasonable.
They both wanted to become higher in position. Ulf wanted to be a lord and Hugh wanted to be the king, and so far Rhaenyra wasn't granting them any lands or anything so they were probably thinking that maybe Aegon would reward them with higher positions whereas Rhaenyra would not.
See, I think dividing the dragons was a bad idea, Ulf and Hugh were clearly not to be trusted, but even so they should have had supervision encase Vhagar was there, Dividing your forces weakens them and dragons are the most mobile weapon in Westeros. Honestly, we need a Napoleon at times like this to explain the principles of divide and conquer.
Exactly, have Daemon been there he could ve watched those two. And Nettles at the capital just in case (Vaeghar is too strong) And yes, it was very d*mb to just divide the forces like that. Even if Tessarion was the smallest, neither Ulf or Hugh were new riders. Darion already ride into battle (even if few times). 4 at King's Landing and 3 at Tumbleton would ve been better
@@joaop4585were Daemon and Nettles still at Kingslanding though? I thought they had already gotten in bed with each other and left, leaving only Addam of Hull
If they had someone like Napoleon the Dragons wouldn't rule for wrong, he will explain to them how the dragons damage is more to the moral than anything physical and they will grow to deal with them,
I really enjoyed this videos of your bro. Are you just gonna cover the Targaryen Dynasty? or do you plan to continue into the Baratheon Dynasty as well?
thanks a lot. I plan on covering the whole of Westeros history and lore including events in the main books at some point. So naturally after i'm done with the Targaryen dynasty moving on to the Baratheon makes sense. I also plan on covering Essoss as well at some point
I love how Alicent suggests to Rhaenyra that Westeros be split: Aegon would get the Stormlands, the Reach and the Westerlands while Rhaenyra gets the rest. However, most of the Reach was not fighting for Aegon but for Rhaenyra; the only Houses from the Reach that were on Aegon's side were Hightower, Redwyne, Peake and a couple very minor Houses the rest of the Reach were loyal to Rhaenyra minus the Tyrells who remained Neutral since their Lord was still very young with his mother acting as Regent. I will say I don't blame Rhaenyra for refusing to give Hugh Hammer & Ulf White so many castles and Lordships, but the Blacks (namely Daemon) should've waited till the war was done completely before offering any Lordships and castles to the dragon seeds.
@@barronbarron6784 bruh Aegon II is one of the shittiest and most idiotic Targaryens and that's saying something. He's not even shitty in a badass way like Daemon, Aemond or Maegor. How in the hell is he anyone's favourite Targaryen? He was such a PoS
@@georgeeast5502 Not only that, his entire tenure as king was spent being crippled. The man could not walk and was bed side for all of his reign. His dick didnt even work. He paid to watch other people have sex... How could he be anyones favorite Targ lol
Tyrells were neutral but Hightowers, redwynes, peacks, rockstane, oakarth, fossaway, amarose and many other houses supported aegon as did in reverlands house strong, brakchen, vance of altaria and butterwell and many other support aegon as well Lord grover tully also wanted to fight for aegon but his grandson doesn't take any part until he force by adam the bastard in reach only tyrells and some minor houses supported rhanyra
I think this will be another case of riders losing control of the dragons, they will say "dracarys" at the wrong moment and the dragons will attack the city instead of the enemy army
One thing is the dragon having a "change of mood" on the middle of a pursuit. Anther is the treason of two pieces of sh*ts riders that shouldnt ve been trusted on the first place
Not in the books its not. They did it and then expected accolades and rewards. Hugh Hammer actually wanted to become King. Hugh Hammer was particularly horrid, up there with Larys Clubfoot.
Nah this is not comparable to what Vhagar did. Vermithor and Silverwing could have bathed the Hightower army in dragon flame. But they decided to fly over them and turn back to set flame to the River land army and Tumbleton
I got to give it too the Greens 3 times they offered a peaceful resolution. 1. Allow Rhaenyra to keep Dragonstone and for her sons to inherit it and Driftmark. 2. Purposed a Great Council decision. 3. Split the Realm in half. A possible future marriage alliance could’ve reunited it too. Rhaenyra though was bloodthirsty to listen
@@Mcherri yeah admittedly the whole cupbearer and squire thing isn’t a position of honor especially when they are toddlers. They should’ve refused that but offered instead to Wed Jaehara to Aegon
Yet the Greens were also the ones who started the war by going against King Viserys' decree and the established succession. Also the first deal is shit for Rhaenyra, and the second would result in a win for the Greens, so those can hardly be called 'fair' offerings. The third deal is the only marginally realistic one, and it was made by Alicent(not Aegon) who had no real power to make that offer. Plus she only did it because Rhaenyra had the upper hand at that point. Rhaenyra was bloodthirsty for good reason. Do you also expect Maegor and Daemon Blackfyre to be treated like equals and split the realm? No they were usurpers who got a shit ton of people killed for their own greed and ambition. Aegon and the Greens were no different.
I get your points but she was bloodthirsty because she lost her son's, had she pardoned her half brothers they'd just kill her and her remaining son's regardless. And the splitting the realm most likely wouldn't have worked because of trade and lord's could have family on the other side of the continent that's split up. Once Aemond killed Lucerys, peace was out the window.
@@georgeeast5502 Maegor and Daemon Blackfyre stole the throne, Aegon the Second is the rightful heir by all laws. Viserys made war inevitable the day he decided to disinherit his eldest son.
Interesting this where the tides of the war changed the two betrayals really hurt the black cause. Had the stayed loyal the ending would of been quite different it cost the black 3 dragons. What makes this more interesting what was there motive seem like there own lust for power. Alicent was a fool to really think talking was going to change the queen mind they were beyond that also that little comment didn’t help her cause too..
Raised in fleabottom meaning their allegiance should have always been seen as up to chance. Flea bottom isn't known for being a place of great renown. That is unless renown means getting your guts spilled open for a few coppers. Guess it would depend on the person
I am starting to not emphasize with Rhaenyra indeed. I am still for the Blacks but man. There are some different accounts in fire and blood and princess and the queen. She was raised to be queen by her father, she participated in small council meetings, she knew her lords, why she failed ? Mistake on mistake
I think losing her sons definitely changed her, and i think Daemon being away in the Riverlands didn't help. I think i first started to question her a bit when she had Jaehaerys killed, yes Aemond killed Lucerys but sending him off like that was always a risk. They were in a war after all. Killing Jaehaerys in the way she did was kinda messed up. But the loss of Jacaerys and Lucerys really made her paranoid and lose trust in people like Corlys for me that is they day she lost the war. But thats what i like about the Dance. No one really won. Unless you count the faith and citadel
@@WorldOfWesteros still the idea about killing Jaehaerys wasn’t hers. Don’t forget that it’s not just war, it’s a family dispute, no one wanted that bloody war but they were ready for that especially the greens. I like the story and the adaption that HBO is bringing but maaan , I will be really sad to watch Targaryens and their dragons die, it’s so tragic. I was very upset after reading the princess and the queen and Fire and blood dance chapters.
Spoiler Warning... Without the betrayal of Hugh and Ulf, Queen Rhaenyra's victory would have been certain and other important characters, such as Daemon, would still be alive. When Hugh and Ulf turned to the Greens, Queen Rhaenyra could no longer trust the Dragonseeds and as such her whole end game strategy crumbled; an attempt to capture and kill Nettles left Daemon to face off against Aemond and Vhagar alone which meant a narrow chance for Daemon to succeed and live. Moreover, the Treason at Tumbleton resulted to the needless death of many Dragons which would soon lead to the demise of the Dragon species and of the power of the Targaryn bloodline. In many ways the Treason of Tumbleton was a necessary plot line to develop the conditions for the events in Game of Thrones...
I do think people tend to overlook how vital Hugh and Ulf swapping sides is. If they had stayed loyal things probably would have turned out very different. The way she treated Adam was harsh, but given the context and her mental state i can kinda see why she might have felt how she did
If she suspected treachery from them then she should've kept them with her in King's Landing to be monitored. They would've also make her grip over King's Landing Iron clad. That would been the winning move.
Rhaenyra's victory would not have been assured. The Traitors Two are probably not great dragonriders and the Hightower army was certainly prepared to face dragons.
I would say it was the 2nd battle that killed a good chunk of the dragons. I hope in the show they explain why they didn't continue towards Kingslanding after the sack. Was it cause the betrayers weren't getting their demands met in time or at all?
@@smithatkinson9962 well, I don't think so, in my view Rhaenyra takes King's landing in s2ep9, everything is good for the blacks, the viewers think Rhaenyra already won, but in ep10 the Two Betrayers betray her and the final shot is Rhaenyra is reported about that and she looks shocked and angry
Well rhenyera did forget to fulfill her end of the deal that was promised before dragon seeds sided with her. Oh wait, team black fulfilling promises that’s never going to happen
Come on I know you saw the teaser what are your thoughts
On the whole it did get me excited and definitely helped sell Matt Smith as Daemon a bit more. However still. I like the fact they're trying to make the throne more lore accurate. Corlys and the Velaryon didn't look as bad as i thought they would. However, the wigs still seemed questionable. I'm still concerned how they will handle the race swap and the wider lore implications but i'm open to seeing how they handle it. One this that caught my eyes is Rhaenys hair. What always found the Black Baratheon hair with the purple eyes quite striking, so her hair color was a bit disappointing. But i guess it's not clear if its supposed to be Targaryen silver or her hair is just grey. On that note, the lack of purple eyes, in general, was something im sad they didn't try and do. So yeah i like it, still, a lot that worries me but a good start. They will have a hard time winning people back after season 8 i think but it vital they get the pace of the show right. It can't move through the timeline too slow, but it can't move to quick like the Witcher did. Going to be a fine balance to get right. I plan on making a more detailed video about the trailer in the next week
@@WorldOfWesteros Well they probably didn't give them purple eyes for continuity reasons. Since the main series already established the Targaryens had green or blue eyes. You would have to explain why Daenerys, Viserys, and Rhaegar didn't have purple eyes but the Targaryens on HOD does.
imagine the horrors the people of tumbleton felt. Going from feeling optimistic to utter fear
It is no wonder people say the place is haunted
before the burning of kings landing by dany ever happened..
@@20PINKluvr but dany only burned kings landing…
This was a war crime beyond war crimes. Men and children laaughtered, any female at ALL young, old, silent sister anll dragged out and raped repeatedly
Treason
The blacks lost this battle, but the winter wolves won
“Yet so Drunk with battle…” Bruh the adrenaline rush that Roddy the Ruin was going through must’ve been crazy!
2:30 lets not forget alicents GRANDCHILDREN(& their mother) were the literal DEFINITION of innocence
Considering hotd season one ending, it might actually been just the dragons that suddenly decided to change sides, and Alf and Hughes just went with it cause they were scared.
Nah, that's a different story. Vhagar disobeyed cause she was upset with Arrax blasting her in the face with dragonfire. In this case, the riders wouldn't have issue with deciding which enemies were the ones worth burning.
One thing is the dragon having a "change of mood" on the middle of a pursuit. Anther is the treason of two pieces of sh*ts riders that shouldnt ve been trusted on the first place
@@joaop4585
Perhaps, though it's food for thought in regards to whether they sided with Aegon II since they felt slighted by Rhaenyra, like how Corlys and Daemon left Viserys' court without his leave to fight in the Stepstones.
That said, yeah you may have a point as well but, I suppose there's more ways to speculate, perhaps
But yeah, the Dragons here definitely weren't just choosing who to burn on a whim, as they've never done so before. What happened with Vhagar against Arrax was a different matter entirely.
@@thalmoragent9344 agreed
@@thalmoragent9344 Agreed, furthermore in the books it was definitely the riders as they are unashamed afterwards and expect rewards, and remember in the books Vhagar didn't disobey, Aemond actually wanted to kill Rhaenyra's son. They changed it so that the greens don't look too nasty.
dude WHAT is this gorgeous map you are using? Can't find it anywhere
Glad you like it, love your content. I made it myself based on the version from The Lands Of Ice And Fire. It's a ongoing project. The file size is getting s bit hard to work with honestly. Right now i'm reworking Westeros a bit, adding missing places, tidying up the place names and colour blending a bit.
@@WorldOfWesteros why id the eastern part darker?
David what do you think about devide the kingdom
Alicent really chose the wrong choice of words when she said 'bastards blood' like she had to know saying that wasn't going to convince Rhaenyra to pardon Alicent's son's. She could've kept that particular part to herself.
one of the battles i really look forward seeing the show .. its gonna be glorious
It's gonna be hilarious when Team Black viewers think they won only for this to happen
@@Captain_Insano_nomercy
Lmao facts
Still, it's a shame for Team Green fans too, cause of what's to come. RIP Vermithor, Tessarion and Seasmoke. As well as Daeron.
@@Captain_Insano_nomercyIt definitly will be. Im curious to see how they present there betrayals when they arrive at Tumbleton. It will be more shocking if the audience doesn't know that they will betray Rhaenyra. But they have to give some kinda of hint that might lead the audience to suspition
My favourite part of the Dance truly goes to show the ferocity of the winter wolfs
Men who are wanting to die and deadly in battle, it adds a relentless fury to them
They were the Spartans!
I LOVE how they are bears but they are called Wolfs because of the Stark alliance i guess
I still don’t get why they would turn when they did. The Greens were all but finished. This was one of their last armies and they had lost most of their leadership after the Butcher’s Ball and Aemond’s death.
Bad writing lol.
The Greens still had the Baratheon army.
Oldtown was also specifically mentioned in the book as capable of fielding another army.
@@For_the-Emperor hah! Hardly
@Nicholas Evan Sirait
So basically, they saw the Black's history of assassinations (and Daemon killing whoever he wanted) and the fact the Black's weren't gonna repay their loyalty/favor for their troubles and decided "yeah, we'll go with the Greens instead"?
Seems reasonable.
They both wanted to become higher in position. Ulf wanted to be a lord and Hugh wanted to be the king, and so far Rhaenyra wasn't granting them any lands or anything so they were probably thinking that maybe Aegon would reward them with higher positions whereas Rhaenyra would not.
See, I think dividing the dragons was a bad idea, Ulf and Hugh were clearly not to be trusted, but even so they should have had supervision encase Vhagar was there, Dividing your forces weakens them and dragons are the most mobile weapon in Westeros.
Honestly, we need a Napoleon at times like this to explain the principles of divide and conquer.
Exactly, have Daemon been there he could ve watched those two. And Nettles at the capital just in case (Vaeghar is too strong)
And yes, it was very d*mb to just divide the forces like that. Even if Tessarion was the smallest, neither Ulf or Hugh were new riders. Darion already ride into battle (even if few times).
4 at King's Landing and 3 at Tumbleton would ve been better
@@joaop4585were Daemon and Nettles still at Kingslanding though? I thought they had already gotten in bed with each other and left, leaving only Addam of Hull
If they had someone like Napoleon the Dragons wouldn't rule for wrong, he will explain to them how the dragons damage is more to the moral than anything physical and they will grow to deal with them,
I really enjoyed this videos of your bro. Are you just gonna cover the Targaryen Dynasty? or do you plan to continue into the Baratheon Dynasty as well?
thanks a lot. I plan on covering the whole of Westeros history and lore including events in the main books at some point. So naturally after i'm done with the Targaryen dynasty moving on to the Baratheon makes sense. I also plan on covering Essoss as well at some point
Should have given them lands as they where promised.
Long leaf the lion slayer did Cole dirty asf
I love how Alicent suggests to Rhaenyra that Westeros be split: Aegon would get the Stormlands, the Reach and the Westerlands while Rhaenyra gets the rest.
However, most of the Reach was not fighting for Aegon but for Rhaenyra; the only Houses from the Reach that were on Aegon's side were Hightower, Redwyne, Peake and a couple very minor Houses the rest of the Reach were loyal to Rhaenyra minus the Tyrells who remained Neutral since their Lord was still very young with his mother acting as Regent.
I will say I don't blame Rhaenyra for refusing to give Hugh Hammer & Ulf White so many castles and Lordships, but the Blacks (namely Daemon) should've waited till the war was done completely before offering any Lordships and castles to the dragon seeds.
Aegon ii is my favorite Targaryen also sunfyre is my favorite dragon because he kills Rhaenyra in ends the war
@@barronbarron6784 it didn’t end the war… not even close. He got killed immediately after lol
@@barronbarron6784 bruh Aegon II is one of the shittiest and most idiotic Targaryens and that's saying something. He's not even shitty in a badass way like Daemon, Aemond or Maegor. How in the hell is he anyone's favourite Targaryen? He was such a PoS
@@georgeeast5502 Not only that, his entire tenure as king was spent being crippled. The man could not walk and was bed side for all of his reign. His dick didnt even work. He paid to watch other people have sex... How could he be anyones favorite Targ lol
Tyrells were neutral but Hightowers, redwynes, peacks, rockstane, oakarth, fossaway, amarose and many other houses supported aegon as did in reverlands house strong, brakchen, vance of altaria and butterwell and many other support aegon as well Lord grover tully also wanted to fight for aegon but his grandson doesn't take any part until he force by adam the bastard in reach only tyrells and some minor houses supported rhanyra
amazing content as always
Where can I find this picture of the video
I think this will be another case of riders losing control of the dragons, they will say "dracarys" at the wrong moment and the dragons will attack the city instead of the enemy army
One thing is the dragon having a "change of mood" on the middle of a pursuit. Anther is the treason of two pieces of sh*ts riders that shouldnt ve been trusted on the first place
Not in the books its not. They did it and then expected accolades and rewards. Hugh Hammer actually wanted to become King. Hugh Hammer was particularly horrid, up there with Larys Clubfoot.
Nah this is not comparable to what Vhagar did. Vermithor and Silverwing could have bathed the Hightower army in dragon flame. But they decided to fly over them and turn back to set flame to the River land army and Tumbleton
I got to give it too the Greens 3 times they offered a peaceful resolution.
1. Allow Rhaenyra to keep Dragonstone and for her sons to inherit it and Driftmark.
2. Purposed a Great Council decision.
3. Split the Realm in half. A possible future marriage alliance could’ve reunited it too.
Rhaenyra though was bloodthirsty to listen
U do realise they wanted to take her children as hostages daemon knew that to and wanted to slaughter otto on the spot.
@@Mcherri yeah admittedly the whole cupbearer and squire thing isn’t a position of honor especially when they are toddlers. They should’ve refused that but offered instead to Wed Jaehara to Aegon
Yet the Greens were also the ones who started the war by going against King Viserys' decree and the established succession. Also the first deal is shit for Rhaenyra, and the second would result in a win for the Greens, so those can hardly be called 'fair' offerings. The third deal is the only marginally realistic one, and it was made by Alicent(not Aegon) who had no real power to make that offer. Plus she only did it because Rhaenyra had the upper hand at that point. Rhaenyra was bloodthirsty for good reason. Do you also expect Maegor and Daemon Blackfyre to be treated like equals and split the realm? No they were usurpers who got a shit ton of people killed for their own greed and ambition. Aegon and the Greens were no different.
I get your points but she was bloodthirsty because she lost her son's, had she pardoned her half brothers they'd just kill her and her remaining son's regardless. And the splitting the realm most likely wouldn't have worked because of trade and lord's could have family on the other side of the continent that's split up. Once Aemond killed Lucerys, peace was out the window.
@@georgeeast5502 Maegor and Daemon Blackfyre stole the throne, Aegon the Second is the rightful heir by all laws. Viserys made war inevitable the day he decided to disinherit his eldest son.
Interesting this where the tides of the war changed the two betrayals really hurt the black cause. Had the stayed loyal the ending would of been quite different it cost the black 3 dragons. What makes this more interesting what was there motive seem like there own lust for power. Alicent was a fool to really think talking was going to change the queen mind they were beyond that also that little comment didn’t help her cause too..
Raised in fleabottom meaning their allegiance should have always been seen as up to chance. Flea bottom isn't known for being a place of great renown. That is unless renown means getting your guts spilled open for a few coppers. Guess it would depend on the person
Alicent is so much more of a villain in fire and blood than they make her out to be in house of the dragon.
Tell me again about Criston Cole's head on a Pike.
I am starting to not emphasize with Rhaenyra indeed. I am still for the Blacks but man. There are some different accounts in fire and blood and princess and the queen. She was raised to be queen by her father, she participated in small council meetings, she knew her lords, why she failed ? Mistake on mistake
I think losing her sons definitely changed her, and i think Daemon being away in the Riverlands didn't help. I think i first started to question her a bit when she had Jaehaerys killed, yes Aemond killed Lucerys but sending him off like that was always a risk. They were in a war after all. Killing Jaehaerys in the way she did was kinda messed up. But the loss of Jacaerys and Lucerys really made her paranoid and lose trust in people like Corlys for me that is they day she lost the war. But thats what i like about the Dance. No one really won. Unless you count the faith and citadel
@@WorldOfWesteros still the idea about killing Jaehaerys wasn’t hers. Don’t forget that it’s not just war, it’s a family dispute, no one wanted that bloody war but they were ready for that especially the greens. I like the story and the adaption that HBO is bringing but maaan , I will be really sad to watch Targaryens and their dragons die, it’s so tragic. I was very upset after reading the princess and the queen and Fire and blood dance chapters.
@@WorldOfWesteros I disagree she always was a bit of an ashole it’s just she just had a pretty face for people to ignore her bad acts
@@hclw3589 thank you
Because George wanted her to fail and couldn't think of a better way to make it happen.
Spoiler Warning...
Without the betrayal of Hugh and Ulf, Queen Rhaenyra's victory would have been certain and other important characters, such as Daemon, would still be alive. When Hugh and Ulf turned to the Greens, Queen Rhaenyra could no longer trust the Dragonseeds and as such her whole end game strategy crumbled; an attempt to capture and kill Nettles left Daemon to face off against Aemond and Vhagar alone which meant a narrow chance for Daemon to succeed and live. Moreover, the Treason at Tumbleton resulted to the needless death of many Dragons which would soon lead to the demise of the Dragon species and of the power of the Targaryn bloodline. In many ways the Treason of Tumbleton was a necessary plot line to develop the conditions for the events in Game of Thrones...
I do think people tend to overlook how vital Hugh and Ulf swapping sides is. If they had stayed loyal things probably would have turned out very different. The way she treated Adam was harsh, but given the context and her mental state i can kinda see why she might have felt how she did
Princess rhanyra lost she is no queen
If she suspected treachery from them then she should've kept them with her in King's Landing to be monitored. They would've also make her grip over King's Landing Iron clad. That would been the winning move.
Rhaenyra's victory would not have been assured. The Traitors Two are probably not great dragonriders and the Hightower army was certainly prepared to face dragons.
I would say it was the 2nd battle that killed a good chunk of the dragons. I hope in the show they explain why they didn't continue towards Kingslanding after the sack. Was it cause the betrayers weren't getting their demands met in time or at all?
So hugh hammer just went ahead and burnt tumbleton anyway.
So did Ulf the White and Daeron
@Thrawn23. yes you are right
@@jayson1geek479 I hope we get to see who/what convinces them to betray Rhaenyra since there are conflicting accounts. I think it'll probably be Larys
@Thrawn23. I'm guessing you are right. I hope they don't betray her though.
@@jayson1geek479 they have to. It's 1 of the most crucial plot points during the dance that changes a lot of characters fates
They should devide the kingdom
That is shocking enough to be in HotD s2 finale
reanerya taking the iron throne will be the final shot on s2 in hotd
@@smithatkinson9962 well, I don't think so, in my view Rhaenyra takes King's landing in s2ep9, everything is good for the blacks, the viewers think Rhaenyra already won, but in ep10 the Two Betrayers betray her and the final shot is Rhaenyra is reported about that and she looks shocked and angry
@@ГригорийКузярин-т1ъ Will probably happen in season 3
@@smithatkinson9962 do you think the battle of rooks rest will be season 2 episode 9
@@barronbarron6784 episode 6
Showed their bastard nature
Well rhenyera did forget to fulfill her end of the deal that was promised before dragon seeds sided with her. Oh wait, team black fulfilling promises that’s never going to happen
@@arunsingla3452Rhaenyra liked making deals and then not following through on her end at all lol