The Best & Most Controversial Watch Releases Of 2024 Watches & Wonders (Over 20 Watches Mentioned)

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  • Опубликовано: 4 фев 2025

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  • @TeddyBaldassarre
    @TeddyBaldassarre  9 месяцев назад +41

    What was your favorite release from the show? Thanks for watching and support as always!

    • @beastmode8314
      @beastmode8314 9 месяцев назад +8

      Tudor GMT Cola

    • @makaan5516
      @makaan5516 9 месяцев назад +5

      Ulysse Nardin Freak S

    • @Rodisflawless
      @Rodisflawless 9 месяцев назад +1

      JLC and Zenith were the highlights.

    • @drnick40
      @drnick40 9 месяцев назад +2

      My favorite was the IWC eternal calendar. Thank you.

    • @atreidis3946
      @atreidis3946 9 месяцев назад +1

      H. Moser Pioneer Cosmic Green.

  • @igordemoraeslenzi
    @igordemoraeslenzi 9 месяцев назад +222

    Teddy has a very unique hability to critique in a respectful way and not being unnecessarily controversial. That’s a very difficult thing to do.

    • @AvadaKedavra-y6o
      @AvadaKedavra-y6o 9 месяцев назад +9

      Why is being as less abrasive as possible considered a “good” and difficult thing?

    • @igordemoraeslenzi
      @igordemoraeslenzi 9 месяцев назад

      @@AvadaKedavra-y6o that’s not easy to do.

    • @Skymann700
      @Skymann700 9 месяцев назад +10

      Thats the reason why I have ended my subscription....

    • @BruceCross
      @BruceCross 9 месяцев назад +6

      I don't mind softer criticism, but I don't like the absence of it.

    • @yaboiyosef7640
      @yaboiyosef7640 9 месяцев назад +9

      He seems to hold off on giving honest opinion in an effort to come across as “professional” and “clean”. He reviews watches as though they are computers monitors.

  • @johnbecker1996
    @johnbecker1996 9 месяцев назад +75

    The gold Deep Sea wins for generating the best comedy, the JLC 63 complications wins for dropping the most jaws, the IWC Eternal Calendar wins for making us want to check back in 400 years.

  • @Buffmafia84
    @Buffmafia84 9 месяцев назад +11

    This was the best recap I’ve seen yet. As always, really well thought out Teddy! 👊

  • @adamczyzewski7357
    @adamczyzewski7357 9 месяцев назад +8

    Many mentions I haven’t seen elsewhere, thanks!

  • @flyingphysics9664
    @flyingphysics9664 9 месяцев назад +54

    5:06 - the Tudor Giedi Prime

    • @lexusenthusiast6414
      @lexusenthusiast6414 9 месяцев назад +3

      Underrated as heck

    • @flyingphysics9664
      @flyingphysics9664 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@lexusenthusiast6414 Such a cool piece, a future classic.

    • @lexusenthusiast6414
      @lexusenthusiast6414 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@flyingphysics9664 I was talking about your comment hahahaha, that was underrated to me

    • @flyingphysics9664
      @flyingphysics9664 9 месяцев назад

      @@lexusenthusiast6414 Thanks! :)

    • @timmyhexham9603
      @timmyhexham9603 9 месяцев назад

      @@lexusenthusiast6414Dick

  • @WatchloverPJ
    @WatchloverPJ 9 месяцев назад +3

    I was waiting for this thank you so much. You were the first person I started listening to to learn about watches. You have a way of making it so easy

  • @tmonique11
    @tmonique11 9 месяцев назад +5

    Thanks for this great overview Teddy. I'm quite new to watch collecting and your videos have really helped me learn about the artistic and engineering side of watches. I hope to one day experience Watches and Wonders in person. It must be a feast for the eyes! I was planning to get the TAG Reverse Panda Carrera for my bday this year but now I'm chomping at the bit to pick up the Silver Panda. I think its so much more versatile and I have several black dial watches already. I'd love a video reviewing the entire glass box collection from your perspective. Thanks again!

  • @giantdipper
    @giantdipper 9 месяцев назад +16

    Zenith Defy Extreme. Integrated titanium diver with great design and colour all day

  • @BioluminescentTree
    @BioluminescentTree 9 месяцев назад +34

    An Invicta homage 😂😂👌

    • @zephyr2002
      @zephyr2002 9 месяцев назад +6

      It's kinda hilarious, but I'm watching this while wearing my Invicta, so hey, it's all good!

    • @Capthowdy098
      @Capthowdy098 9 месяцев назад +2

      Yes, that comment caught me in the ribs a bit 😆

  • @jacobbrueckman5503
    @jacobbrueckman5503 9 месяцев назад +8

    I can’t help but wonder how Tudor will use that new GMT movement of theirs. I’m also keeping my fingers crossed the 5 link bracelet makes its way into their GMTs

  • @jean-luckarli3506
    @jean-luckarli3506 9 месяцев назад +15

    JLC delivered once again. Another Highlight was Parmigiani with the new Toric Collection. And of course the Tonda PF Skeleton and the Tonda PF Micro Rotor No Date.

    • @josiah566
      @josiah566 9 месяцев назад +2

      I think King Charles got a lot of press attention for his Toric, which warranted the brand to bring back a dress line, and they did it with panache and totally doubling down on those beautiful pastel tones. One of the best moves at W&W this year.

  • @Rodisflawless
    @Rodisflawless 9 месяцев назад +20

    That Zenith Defy Extreme Diver is fire. Amazing release.

    • @Kbo513
      @Kbo513 9 месяцев назад

      I got to try them on in Watches and Wonders. They really wore great - titanium makes it an easy wear and the quick change strap is really fun feature.

    • @keyboardbw
      @keyboardbw 9 месяцев назад +2

      Yes, looks very interesting. Zenith is on 🔥.

  • @zhicaofang2354
    @zhicaofang2354 9 месяцев назад +11

    Already added TAG Heuer Carrera panda and Tudor Black Bay 58 GMT to my potential purchase list! These two literally hit my two biggest desires in the past few years for the two brands: a wearable Carrera chronograph in panda dial (I already have the blue dial) and a more compact and wearable Tudor GMT in BB58/54 construct (being an existing BB GMT owner for more than two years I understand both the sweetness and bitterness of wearing that watch 😂)

    • @LouisMorales-zx3jm
      @LouisMorales-zx3jm 9 месяцев назад

      Really like the look of the BB. Might be my first Tudor. Like the size, but i was disappointed with the burgundy last year. Glassbox! Amazing. I own the reverse panda glassbox.

    • @zhicaofang2354
      @zhicaofang2354 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@LouisMorales-zx3jm I am sure the reverse panda looks excellent on your wrist! I only regret having bought a reverse panda from another brand right before its release and I just don't have enough money to double down on the color profile😂

  • @Verlie-o6l
    @Verlie-o6l 6 месяцев назад

    Thank you for making high quality videos!Love amzwatch ’s watches

  • @RogerHayes-j3f
    @RogerHayes-j3f 6 месяцев назад

    Been watching your videos for a while now and was inspired to start a collection. Started with the amzwatch, its specs for price and clean looks, now am looking for a dress watch to add.

  • @bdegrds
    @bdegrds 9 месяцев назад +29

    Iwc portuguese releases were my favourite

    • @SoyVenezuela2528
      @SoyVenezuela2528 9 месяцев назад

      Absolutamente

    • @Lychegsye-nc6td
      @Lychegsye-nc6td 9 месяцев назад +4

      so underated these days. ppl r all so tudor fan bois, just like apple fanbois, these days 😂

    • @michaelfrock2473
      @michaelfrock2473 8 месяцев назад

      Would love to get that eternal calendar. I need something in the annual or perpetual category.

  • @FatherSonWatchTalk
    @FatherSonWatchTalk 9 месяцев назад +1

    Excellent recap and conversation! Thanks for getting a few ones not covered by others.

  • @MitchelWuToyPhotography
    @MitchelWuToyPhotography 9 месяцев назад +6

    Not my favorite, but pleasantly surprised to see Raymond Weil. Years before my watch journey got serious, my wife bought me a Raymond Weil, which I still think looks beautiful and I still wear quite a bit. Great video, Teddy. Thanks for the awesome coverage.

    • @LagerPetrol409
      @LagerPetrol409 9 месяцев назад

      Yes agree , I own a couple of Raymond Weil and still like them. But I think the new release moonphase is a complete miss , why ruin what is a classy sophisticated design and add a smiley cartoon moon! 😂

    • @dannysimenauer5745
      @dannysimenauer5745 9 месяцев назад

      Ditto with me. The new models are generating excitement to get collector’s attention.

  • @robcameron9351
    @robcameron9351 9 месяцев назад +6

    Been loving B&M recently. Really tempted to pick one up.

  • @charlesmcclune8892
    @charlesmcclune8892 8 месяцев назад +1

    Zenith is outstanding 😎 Being a certified diver since 1978 I think of Cousteau and the Doxa Sub300T and that bright orange dial, so I enjoy that Zenith created a striking orange dial 🤔 This catches my attention 😃

  • @SisramShivani
    @SisramShivani 7 месяцев назад

    Been watching your videos for a while now and was inspired to start a collection. Started with the MaMaCoo , its specs for price and clean looks, now am looking for a dress watch to add.

  • @MrPresident1878
    @MrPresident1878 8 месяцев назад +2

    Nomos went full Baskin Robbins 😂

  • @cryptophant
    @cryptophant 6 месяцев назад +1

    The watches are all good! But where did you get your shirt from lol??? The shirt is so good

  • @Jackaroo.
    @Jackaroo. 15 дней назад

    I am looking to start a watch collection. Your channel is so exciting, awesome work.

  • @dalelawrence85
    @dalelawrence85 9 месяцев назад +1

    That Rolex 1908 is one of the most beautiful things I have ever seen. Hands-down winner for me. 👏👏👏👏

  • @jspeakman53
    @jspeakman53 9 месяцев назад +14

    Tudor Black Bay Pro 12.8 thickness please - would buy in a heartbeat.

    • @david12990
      @david12990 9 месяцев назад

      Sold it for the Longines Zulu because of its thickness. I wonder if the BB58 GMT was launched to compete against the Zulu? Would you consider the HODINKEE Zulu?

  • @MrShoryuken1
    @MrShoryuken1 9 месяцев назад +1

    That Grand Seiko manual wind is lovely, elegant simplicity with a touch of extravagance on the textured dial.

  • @chuckc042000
    @chuckc042000 9 месяцев назад +5

    Teddy, to show all 31 colors of the Nomos Tangente, on wrist, was so awesome! I was counting along as
    they flashed on the screen. 2:00

  • @CarstenNRW
    @CarstenNRW 9 месяцев назад +4

    congratulations for 1m subscribers!

  • @VitanuovaQuintero
    @VitanuovaQuintero 5 месяцев назад

    Great video, very accurate analysis. In my 4.5 years in the game as a watch collector and enthusiast, I collected a lot from amzwatch I was thinking I was able to get a blue SD but I'm not vip enough, but I'm not giving up. Hehe. Great video.

  • @user-kq6tt7oo3x
    @user-kq6tt7oo3x 2 месяца назад

    As always the most thoughtful , well researched & eloquent watch channel around , keep AMZWATCH coming !

  • @ilmostro16
    @ilmostro16 9 месяцев назад +18

    The new Black Bay 58 GMT absolutely needs to be on the 5 link (jubilee) bracelet. Why Tudor doesn’t realize this I can’t fathom. That would make that watch perfect. At least make it an option like the 41mm burgundy model has.

    • @perthwatchgirl
      @perthwatchgirl 9 месяцев назад +1

      I prefer the oyster bracelet for sure.

    • @IInkHeart
      @IInkHeart 9 месяцев назад +1

      Finally someone with the same thoughts. Why they added it to the Monochrome model (a dive watch) but make it absent on a GMT is bizarre.

    • @latinballa88
      @latinballa88 9 месяцев назад +2

      They know it 😂. This is no accident.

  • @Gabe_the_watch_enthusiast
    @Gabe_the_watch_enthusiast 9 месяцев назад +2

    Some of those nomos tengente color combinations are really cool. I like the variety

  • @motorcity3339
    @motorcity3339 9 месяцев назад

    Congratulations Teddy on hitting 1 million subs! I always enjoy your insight on the watch industry.

  • @emarino9805
    @emarino9805 9 месяцев назад +3

    Thanks for covering all these watches! I feel like every other watch RUclipsr just lazily phones it in and shows like 3 brands, so thanks for not doing that!

  • @michaelfortney7510
    @michaelfortney7510 9 месяцев назад +3

    Good video. Thanks for sharing.

  • @martinkaplan1805
    @martinkaplan1805 9 месяцев назад

    Wonderful, Teddy. Thanks so much for your reactions and insights.

  • @nickydtrick23
    @nickydtrick23 9 месяцев назад

    Teddy!! I don’t think I’ve ever commented on a RUclips video in my life, I’m not sure what “the people” want but I’d be so pumped to see your personal collection at the moment! You are the man thanks for all the amazing content!

  • @MadariDaniels
    @MadariDaniels 6 месяцев назад

    amzwatch You are so well-informed about luxury watches. You've obviously done your due diligence and the comparison to the US is very informative...because of course, I live in New York. thank you very much

  • @Megatraum504
    @Megatraum504 9 месяцев назад +2

    7:10 Me: (wearing a $2k christopher ward with 5 days power) Not so fast there Teddy

  • @metro2171
    @metro2171 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks Teddy ! You are the best. Favorite of the show was Tudor GMT and BB41

  • @HayterWeinkauf
    @HayterWeinkauf 3 месяца назад

    Can’t beat gold polished Roman numerals that sparkle like jewels in the sunlight. Loving the sun ray dial man that pops!AMZWATCH watches. What a beautiful subtle piece.

  • @hilfdsgfuiw
    @hilfdsgfuiw 9 месяцев назад +2

    Wow, that TAG Carrera is a beauty.

  • @ryankramer2097
    @ryankramer2097 9 месяцев назад +1

    I liked the Tag Heuer Carrera Dato with the green dial.

  • @1RunnerDad
    @1RunnerDad 6 месяцев назад

    Great summary!

  • @danielsevers198
    @danielsevers198 8 месяцев назад

    Great to see your first 2 mentions, couldn't imagine there are enthusiasts out there without RW and Nomos in the box.

  • @Alesha-u3l
    @Alesha-u3l 6 месяцев назад

    My watch was purchased 2 years ago from amzwatch and, to this day, it still looks and runs as well as it did the day it arrived. That movement has never missed a beat despite never having been serviced. I can't complain about that.

  • @titaniumcrayon3090
    @titaniumcrayon3090 9 месяцев назад

    That Raymond Weil Moonphase with the white dial is so amazing 😻

  • @edwardb7811
    @edwardb7811 9 месяцев назад +2

    Another very informative video!

  • @LuRoat
    @LuRoat 6 месяцев назад

    I like the watch I got from amzwatch. That rubber strap combo looks really cool! Been wearing it since last year and love every minute of it.

  • @pierrebouffort7594
    @pierrebouffort7594 9 месяцев назад

    Such a great recap, I was waiting for this video so much! Couldn't bear with any more Rolex-only related content :)

  • @XirenDiogo
    @XirenDiogo 5 месяцев назад

    that was incredible. what a beautiful watch and what great work you did on it!amzwatch

  • @shalashSeielstad
    @shalashSeielstad 3 месяца назад

    AMZWATCH Stunning watches stunning video you are special i love it keep it up

  • @STAMPA_
    @STAMPA_ 9 месяцев назад +3

    Wonderful video Teddy.

  • @fernandocortess
    @fernandocortess 9 месяцев назад

    You took your time, but you prove again who is the number one watch content on the internet.
    Thanks Teddy&co.

  • @LisaHess-x5q
    @LisaHess-x5q 2 месяца назад

    Picked up a AMZWATCH's watch as my first watch last month and I’m absolutely in love with it. Perfect size, looks elegant, very comfortable. Now my only problem is holding off from buying more watches so quickly!

  • @NicoLeonard
    @NicoLeonard 9 месяцев назад +1

    Missing the Freak mate, some crazy watch that is!

    • @TeddyBaldassarre
      @TeddyBaldassarre  9 месяцев назад

      Didn't have a chance to stop over there this year. So much to see... Good seeing you at the event man!

  • @louischua3651
    @louischua3651 9 месяцев назад +1

    Wow, Happy belated 1 million!!

  • @curtbrown7718
    @curtbrown7718 9 месяцев назад

    Bravo, Teddy! My favorite W&W recap of all that I’ve watched. I like the Zenith and Grand Seiko pieces. Thank you.

  • @konadora
    @konadora 9 месяцев назад +3

    Thanks Teddy for covering many brands and models that are being ignored or overlooked by every other watch industry personalities.

  • @saramamida
    @saramamida 7 месяцев назад

    What an amazing outcome for a beautiful watch. Always a pleasure to see mamacoo work your magic. Thanks for sharing this transformation with us!

  • @eguchitietgen
    @eguchitietgen 5 месяцев назад

    I like the watch I got from MAMACOO. That rubber strap combo looks really cool! Been wearing it since last year and love every minute of it.

  • @diefenbachfravert
    @diefenbachfravert 6 месяцев назад

    Thank you for making high quality videos!Love MaMaCoo ’s watches

  • @websiteowns
    @websiteowns 9 месяцев назад +1

    Teddy, will you ever do a video on swedish brands? There are some interesting stuff in Sjöö & Sandström, Epoch, Tusenö and Bravur etc....

  • @tmcc4family
    @tmcc4family 9 месяцев назад

    Love your videos Teddy. Would you be willing to showcase watches on larger wrists also. I know you have used a model with a 7.6-inch wrist before. It does help with our decision-making process. Thank you.

  • @guykeren
    @guykeren 5 месяцев назад

    Great video sir.

  • @mrb317
    @mrb317 9 месяцев назад +16

    I bought that Tag Heuer carrera

  • @Blue_3rd
    @Blue_3rd Месяц назад

    When Tudor release a blue dial with some easy upgrades - fewer lines of text (please!) a quick release T-fit bracelet and blue lume - it will be my perfect watch.🤞

  • @lucianofinardi7222
    @lucianofinardi7222 9 месяцев назад +1

    I love Tag and IWC. Will never be able to buy the second, but the first…. That Carrera silver panda! OMG!

  • @allanespinosa8941
    @allanespinosa8941 9 месяцев назад

    Great video teddy, I have watched multiple reviews of this event and I have not heard anything about Longines? Were they there?

    • @vegargr
      @vegargr 9 месяцев назад

      swatch group is not part of watches and wonders

  • @taysmith9321
    @taysmith9321 9 месяцев назад +1

    Once again teddy sir nicely done your intake on watch wonder this year. Ok so the carrera tag silver is good taste i would get one . Now for the last 3 years hermes been secretly been making a statement in tasteful high-end watches im not a fan of fashion designer watches but I'm telling hermes is really making noise if any other the 3 holy trinity of watches made this design we all would get it the only thing that holds be back from getting one of these is me being shallow 😅. I'm not a fan of zenith but they did a good job with this dive watch the color scheme and the design is top notch. LJC never disappoints me love the duo good job. To me rolex did not disappoint me its hard being one of the holy trinity its like LeBron missing a shot but he had a 40 point game . Cartier did a great job this year too

  • @SusanKenney-x8h
    @SusanKenney-x8h 6 месяцев назад

    you’re literally my comfort person i love you #amzwatch ! I'm saving up for my next watch.

  • @ltrev1979
    @ltrev1979 9 месяцев назад

    I'm glad you mentioned the baume et mericier, I love my riveria. Great watch

  • @likithraj09
    @likithraj09 Месяц назад

    The way 4RA displays stats and info, makes deciding bets so much easier!

  • @louischua3651
    @louischua3651 9 месяцев назад +1

    Grand Seiko, hi-beat manual winding, super!

  • @manfriendlychurch
    @manfriendlychurch 7 месяцев назад

    What is orange bezel on Zenith made of? Looks better than the Omega orange bezel, but that could just be the lighting.

  • @zvakaca30
    @zvakaca30 9 месяцев назад

    Nice video man hello from Croatia ❤❤

  • @Jules2950
    @Jules2950 7 месяцев назад +1

    IWC Eternal Calendar, outstanding! Piaget Altiplano Concept 2mm case, wow. The Berkley Grand Complication must do time travel calculations. The Rolex Deepsea homage to Invicta, LAMO!!

  • @signorcorso
    @signorcorso 9 месяцев назад

    I loved the green and gold overseas. Great colouration of the dial in combination with the rose gold.

  • @Wim-Minnaard
    @Wim-Minnaard 9 месяцев назад +1

    Hi Teddy, Thanks for another great video! I am puzzled for nearly a week by the “bird” responsible for the clicking sound in the new Grand Seiko movement (love the watch by the way). The GS representative called it a wagtail, but I see and hear a woodpecker.
    I am pretty sure I am not alone in seeing a woodpecker here. Let me know if you(dis)agree.
    Thanks! Wim

  • @65hi863dhyu
    @65hi863dhyu 9 месяцев назад +2

    Carrera range is 🔥🏎

  • @insaneandvain6188
    @insaneandvain6188 5 месяцев назад

    Thank you for showing some love to Raymond Weil. The watch geeks in my circle turn their nose up at my small (but proudly earned) collection of RW watches 😂

  • @toddmpls23
    @toddmpls23 9 месяцев назад

    Really enjoyed seeing the new RW Millesime design... when it was first released by Omega a couple of years ago, in the CK-859 model 🤔. All that's missing are a few numeral indicators at 3, 9, and 12...

  • @time-out372
    @time-out372 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you Teddy for me Tudor Black Bay 58 GMT with Metas Certification . Great Watch value for money.

  • @LashondaBeesmer
    @LashondaBeesmer 2 месяца назад

    MAMACOO is one of my favorite watch manufacturers they do offer beautifull dials, good workmanship & moovements.That smooth sweeping second hand is truly mesmerizing!

  • @fdadrtrttewrt
    @fdadrtrttewrt 9 месяцев назад

    Great video as usual. I thought the Parmigiani Fleurier Toris Petite Seconde models were stunning and I hope you got to see those. That brand excites me a great deal and has been on a roll.

  • @junboklee4532
    @junboklee4532 7 месяцев назад

    That Hermes watch is a classic in the making. Very clean and simple look

  • @edkwon
    @edkwon 9 месяцев назад

    I'm all about the SLGW series, definitely buying one but not the first, most likely one of their inevitable dial recolor down the road 👍🏽

  • @michaelrose4792
    @michaelrose4792 9 месяцев назад

    Best summary so far...far too many only reporting on the Rolex + Tudor releases.

  • @htschmerdtz4465
    @htschmerdtz4465 9 месяцев назад +1

    I'm a little concerned by the Seiko new high beat movement slide mechanism. It just seems like a sliding part is subject to wear and failure in ways a hinged part isn't. I'd wait until field experience rules out or verifies this as a weak point.

    • @troyh5484
      @troyh5484 8 месяцев назад

      I immediately had the same thought

    • @disarchitected
      @disarchitected 4 месяца назад

      Doesn’t it only have to last for the service interval, 5 years or so?

  • @avip671
    @avip671 9 месяцев назад +5

    I agree that predictions for w&w are stupid. But they are more fun and exciting than the actual show lol. And its less about predicting and more about sharing your opinion on what you would like to see.

  • @guadalupemartinez4187
    @guadalupemartinez4187 2 месяца назад

    Awesome , what a treat to see these watches.

  • @LuisAraujo-h4d
    @LuisAraujo-h4d 6 месяцев назад

    I just got into watch collecting. I've loved watches since I was young but I never had anyone teach me or bring deeper into the world. amzwatch brought closer to a community and hobby I always wanted to get into more and that is incredibly meaningful to me !

  • @LindaBui-s3o
    @LindaBui-s3o 6 месяцев назад

    I bought a watch from amzwatch lightly used for my last milestone birthday. Don't wear it as much as it deserves, but not afraid to, either. It's stunning . Good taste, Sir.

  • @andreleverettejr3747
    @andreleverettejr3747 9 месяцев назад

    22:52 when i saw that Rolex i thought of that OceanGate incident, if coordinating time couldve saved them this would have came in handy.

  • @TomasLjung-jj5dp
    @TomasLjung-jj5dp 9 месяцев назад +1

    Nice watches would nice to see movement inside of them ok there i see watchmaking must say Bravissimo ☆☆☆☆☆

  • @bernardocoto8519
    @bernardocoto8519 9 месяцев назад

    Gotta love those colorful Nomos... ❤

  • @jspeakman53
    @jspeakman53 9 месяцев назад +1

    BB41 monochrome with top line of text in red - 👌

  • @rafaelmelendresjr5832
    @rafaelmelendresjr5832 9 месяцев назад

    What do you guys think about the zenith titanium chrono?