Not true, melee weaving will be even better in wotlk because you have huge gaps in your rotation after all of the instant cast shots. The lower level of static haste will also make it even easier and more free to benefit from weaving.
Would Tauren be more or less helpful with melee range ? Or the reverse being a gnome? You can alt f4 the engineer transporter till you get the race you want ???!
Doesn't matter. It just changes the distance you'll have to take from the boss. There might be bosses where it's marginally more beneficial to be either closer or further but that's all just about timing the mechanics right, which you should do anyway of you care about such marginalities.
mouse macro is cheap as fuk, there could be a good case for getting Enthozz banned....even if its not detectable, the guy runs a discord with a channel dedicated to it and more than implied he would be using it Suddenly he starts weaving on stream with pin point accuracy, having never weaved in the expansion before...cheap
@@brucefly3612 because it is automating gameplay. Its automated movement to gain performance because obviously no one is going to be as precise as a macor thta has the exact miliseconds hard coded in to it for the most minimal amount of movement needed to weave...the exact same, every single weave, no variance. Blizz have already said they don't agree with it / would consider it breaking ToS but have no way to detect it
as much hate as sarthe gets..i will give him credit for not going the scumbag macro route. I know he learned to manually weave, you could see it on his stream...he was slow as shit initially and it gradually got better / his distance got tighter and he'll still occassionally miss a weave (similar to also watching someone like Varmos weaving who has a very solid manual weave but does at time miss weaves)
@@lwqyt acutally ther isn't Thats why blizz can't ban for the macro There are some obscenely good manual weavers that have VERY fast weaves to where it could LOOK like they have it macro'd thats the issue Just like in any game there are those that are stupidly good at a particular thing and get accused of cheating.....to the point that you can't distinguish them from the actual cheaters. But there is an easy case to be made against say Enthozz...who implied he would use the macro, has a discord about it and suddenly appeared on stream doing pin point perfect weaves out of no where Vs say Sarthe who's early weaves were sooo bad ^^ but it was fun to watch him learn and get better at it. That was my point, he gained respect for not going down the route of Enthozz and those that followed suit.
@@Rev0UK1 you can with the tool that sarthe showed at the end because a macro will always weave after the same time. It doesnt matter how good you are, you can't perfect weave every e.g. 250ms with no variance over several bosses. A human will always be +- a bit. Like a human would be weave after 244 240 250 260 240 260 ms meanwhile a macro will straight up show weave after 250 250 250 250 250
@@lwqyt you do hae a point there. I guess if you can legit show that a persons weave constantly land within the typical 'timings' of those mouse macros then that would be a good case for said person being a cheap mouse macro cuck... I wonder how accurate the tool is though in terms of fluctuations based around ping/latency which might make it look like weaves are varying in times at certain points
Using arcane shot before a weave is not an "advanced tip", it's more of a beginner technique to ease yourself into weaving. Arcane and serpent sting are the 2 worst ways to use your GCDs during a normal rotation.
This is taking tryhard to a new level, I'm happy with 90-95% parses and not having to do this shit. I didn't pick the 1 button class to suddenly have to move my character in boss fights. That's asking too much.
This video is incredibly bad for viewers to watch, but incredibly good for Sarthe, as every huntard will have to watch this whole video over 10 time to understand half of it. I don't know if it's genius or very dumb
Updated Disc link: discord.gg/JqZGtAuXqY
Hey curious if you could share your swing timer WA or addon ty
you waited till the last couple months of the expansion to do a melee weaving guide?
Yes, now you can enjoy it for like 2 days
Awesome guide, what percentage of your total damage comes from meele hits? Thx!
So many fools refused to believe weaving was good in TBC. Who's laughing now?
was like the hesitation around it in classic (vanilla)...except worse
Also please stop strafe weaving so fast.
just got my felspine and it's time to weave!! thanks for the tips
Hey I see a lot of harbingers blades, would you say it's just flat out better than halberd of desolation?
Does Anyone know what weak aura Dhars uses at 5:22 ? The melee range icons looks pretty useful
Discord link not working
why not put the macros in the description? ffs
In wrath you basically only use steady shot as mm so have fun using this for a month or two ?
Nah, at first patches if you want max your dps as surv hunter you need to do something similar and drop traps at same time
@@theOG2109 frost traps procs lock n load on bosses?
@@BreackTheHeat idk im talking about explosive traps
@@theOG2109 that's not really a dps increase, the idea is to proc lock n load more often with frost trap
Not true, melee weaving will be even better in wotlk because you have huge gaps in your rotation after all of the instant cast shots. The lower level of static haste will also make it even easier and more free to benefit from weaving.
What weak aura is that for the time swinger and the circle in the middle?
the one he won't give us
@@potence2032 I can find out, I do have the proximity one and I did find a time winger I didn't like
good to see my boy zeroji showing how to melee weave :')
Would Tauren be more or less helpful with melee range ? Or the reverse being a gnome? You can alt f4 the engineer transporter till you get the race you want ???!
Doesn't matter. It just changes the distance you'll have to take from the boss. There might be bosses where it's marginally more beneficial to be either closer or further but that's all just about timing the mechanics right, which you should do anyway of you care about such marginalities.
@@mojolotz
It's much more important rolling orc to top metters than tauren hitbox.
@@brucefly3612 well obviously but the question was about the hotbox.
Hey look! i'm on TV! (dudeimgreen, resto shaman)
Anyone got link to the keyboard macro?
mouse macro is cheap as fuk, there could be a good case for getting Enthozz banned....even if its not detectable, the guy runs a discord with a channel dedicated to it and more than implied he would be using it
Suddenly he starts weaving on stream with pin point accuracy, having never weaved in the expansion before...cheap
Why would a mouse macro be banned?.
@@brucefly3612 because it is automating gameplay. Its automated movement to gain performance because obviously no one is going to be as precise as a macor thta has the exact miliseconds hard coded in to it for the most minimal amount of movement needed to weave...the exact same, every single weave, no variance.
Blizz have already said they don't agree with it / would consider it breaking ToS but have no way to detect it
OMG ITS FINALLY HERE I SOLD MY FIRST BORN FOR THIS GUIDE
as much hate as sarthe gets..i will give him credit for not going the scumbag macro route. I know he learned to manually weave, you could see it on his stream...he was slow as shit initially and it gradually got better / his distance got tighter and he'll still occassionally miss a weave (similar to also watching someone like Varmos weaving who has a very solid manual weave but does at time miss weaves)
i mean there is a really easy way via logs to check if someone uses a macro or not and you can clearly see sarthe doesnt use it
@@lwqyt acutally ther isn't
Thats why blizz can't ban for the macro
There are some obscenely good manual weavers that have VERY fast weaves to where it could LOOK like they have it macro'd thats the issue
Just like in any game there are those that are stupidly good at a particular thing and get accused of cheating.....to the point that you can't distinguish them from the actual cheaters.
But there is an easy case to be made against say Enthozz...who implied he would use the macro, has a discord about it and suddenly appeared on stream doing pin point perfect weaves out of no where
Vs say Sarthe who's early weaves were sooo bad ^^ but it was fun to watch him learn and get better at it. That was my point, he gained respect for not going down the route of Enthozz and those that followed suit.
@@Rev0UK1 you can with the tool that sarthe showed at the end because a macro will always weave after the same time. It doesnt matter how good you are, you can't perfect weave every e.g. 250ms with no variance over several bosses. A human will always be +- a bit. Like a human would be weave after 244 240 250 260 240 260 ms meanwhile a macro will straight up show weave after 250 250 250 250 250
@@lwqyt you do hae a point there. I guess if you can legit show that a persons weave constantly land within the typical 'timings' of those mouse macros then that would be a good case for said person being a cheap mouse macro cuck...
I wonder how accurate the tool is though in terms of fluctuations based around ping/latency which might make it look like weaves are varying in times at certain points
Thanks dad!
some 1 link a good mouse macro
Using arcane shot before a weave is not an "advanced tip", it's more of a beginner technique to ease yourself into weaving. Arcane and serpent sting are the 2 worst ways to use your GCDs during a normal rotation.
so where can we download the melee weave script? :)
Cant wait for Sarthe to reroll and metachase again in wrath
So what
1lov Sarthe !
imma be honest this does not look fun to incorporate
Just bonk the boss and do more DPS
why would you show footage of Steadyx/Enthozz etc? they're known mouse macro-users..
Because he wanted to show people using macros
@@AfghanxxLame call
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Ahem, Why are z2u advertisements everywhere? ay!
CBA weaving
lol! I hate z2u. It‘s everywhere yes!
This is taking tryhard to a new level, I'm happy with 90-95% parses and not having to do this shit. I didn't pick the 1 button class to suddenly have to move my character in boss fights. That's asking too much.
If you're one buttoning hunter, you're not 90-95ing
"ultimate" guide in 9 minutes 🤣
Not late at all
This video is incredibly bad for viewers to watch, but incredibly good for Sarthe, as every huntard will have to watch this whole video over 10 time to understand half of it. I don't know if it's genius or very dumb
?? im not even a hunter and its quite straight forward lmao
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