Cheap Ferrari 328 Project - Narrowly Escapes Disaster !
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What do you think of the engine guys, have I got a bargain or money pit on my hands here ?
With these new details about the engine, the car itself...and the dimension change you'd need to make a 288 GTO clone...I've decided to go easy on you, mate.😆🤣Regardless of these "low miles", I'd say you have a very lovely stock of excellent parts you could sell on to fund whatever project YOU FEEL PASSIONATE about and really want to make. Aloha!👍
I couldn’t believe you got the car for the price to begin with and what a surprise to see that the engine is turning, seems like you’re halfway there already, I would dream about a situation like that
Scott, a year ago over here in the state of Maine right in my town at coPart There was a Monty out eight that went up for a bid, I was too late to figure out which of my friends was eligible to bed for me one of them actually did try for it and he stopped at 10,000 so it’s all for 10,000 went to a breaker in Michigan and a friend who works at corporate said they tried to start it and when they put the battery in the tray the battery fell right through the bottom it was so rusty it had been left out for 20 years in the New England weather so seeing the deal you got on that car is mind blowing, I’m sure whoever got that Mondeo will probably get $30,000 or more out of the parts, I would be gutted to see that done to you at 3:28 but it just goes to show what an amazing deal you got
Depending on the casting material that engine is totally worth repair. and as i said in my last comment survivors to me are worth way more than mods or clones. Just my opinion. But to be honest like you said you can get paid big in parting it. I also said what some of your other commenters have that gear box locked upo and exploded taking everything with it.. I do however dont think that car was ever wrecked. i think something was dropped on that front clam and they just cut the rest off.
someone put a new clutch in and did not use all the fly wheel bolts...the ones used sheared and that fly wheel tore up the transmission case and hatch cover.....
At first I thought a GTO conversion would be good but I didn’t realise you would have to stretch the car, now I would beg you to restore it to original condition especially after seeing the success of this new video, well done Scott
Glad you liked it!
Yep, when Scott started explaining what’s needed to make it a 288, my heart sank. Too many other major commitments already. It would just sit. lean into your expertise and restore it to standard.
Yep, totally agree. The stretching of the chassis changed my perspective on it too (even though the 288 is my bedroom poster car). Restore it to stock seeing as it’s such a low mileage car. Failing that, break it for parts to contribute to the other projects.
Hmm, now that the engine is in ok shape, restore it.
Doesn’t need to do all that to make it into a tribute. Just add the cosmetic pieces.
Strip the motor, magnaflux the crank (she's had abnormal loading), new bearing,rod bolts ,seals,belts, inspect the bores, lap valves and reset clearances. You'll sleep easier and enjoy driving if you know know all is good inside.
Also some better EFI, headers and a tune bringing the engine to life
I think the value has gone up enough to fix it. 10 years ago it wasn't worth it but now it is.
I agree on values for sure
Just a bit of a safety suggestion, because none of us want you hurt! In the future, when pulling an engine, don't be digging around in the engine compartment while the engine is dangling above it. Get the engine out of the way and in the clear first.
Congratulations on the shop! One more vote for restoring the 328 to the original spec. Looking forward to more great contents!
That's the plan!
Get a security system asap, get some nice LED lighting too.
Yeah have to agree looks super easy to break into, those doors aren't going to stop anyone with a crowbar for more then 2-3 seconds!
Install, trunk monkeys.
@@centurion262 dont he normally park his Ferrari’s on the street though lol
@@riderzinc he probably sleeps in them as well haha, just kidding, scotts da man
@@thedude4795 BBi stands for Bed Breakfast included
Get yourself an A frame hoist that fits the height of the unit, no more messing about with that engine hoist on full extension, accident waiting to happen as you nearly found out!
I sure did
I'm voting to keep it original now. You made alot of valid points on it being mostly original and decent condition. Also, idk if you remember, but Freddy had to have bolt holes on his McLaren block fixed by adding material and retapping it, so it's definitely possible to fix this engine.
No question. FIX IT. Get this superb car back on the road 👍👍👍
Love the new space! Went to another level seeing the F40 build next door. Those engine hoists are always sketchy! I do NOT like taking engines out with them at all. 100% it will be cheaper to restore the 328 and sell it on. Would make a nice profit also. Get all these side projects done so we can finish the BBi and start the F40 build. Hope your new neighbor gets the fire burning for that build!
The hoist was fine. The problem was 100% the user. Too busy filming instead of thinking.
Great new shop! The engine is showing some potential! Rebuild it to stock, and sell it. Use the money for the F40 project. Love the channel! Thanks Ray 🇨🇦
cheers ray
I was in the 288 GTO camp, but after hearing some of you comments about what's required, now support a "sympathetic restore". Not a BBi level restoration, but (almost) a bare minimum restore. It was so cheap, I say maximise the profit by spending as little as you can to make it presentable for someone to take on. Having said all that, *PLEASE* don't start it yet! Crack on with the BBi and finish the 308.... please don't become another channel with half a dozen projects on the go that never get finished! You've still got the 348 lurking somewhere too... and an old 911! 🙂
Restore restore restore! These cars are a masterpiece from a time we will never be able to go back to, they should be preserved
I think the GTO option is more outlaw/ "On Brand" for you Scott. Nut and bolt was def most appropriate for the BBI, It's in the name Ratarossa. Also seeing you work with space around you gives me a sigh of relief although if you had that lift issue back home your tight working space probably would have saved you !
Best Ferrari engineering show on earth. Thank you!
Well Scott from another old Canadian to your old Canadian, I suggest you rebuild it close to factory and flip to use the funds elsewhere ! 👍🇨🇦
Thanks buddy
Got to love the easter eggs you leave love lying around........
Great move!!
You need to have that crank checked for true. It may turn over, but the slightest twist at high rpm could kill it
Very good new accomodation! But please be aware of thieves!
Prancing horses are very appreciated by thieves!
Install some goood alarm system.
I was in camp 288, but if you need to turn the engine and extend the chassi it sounds though - perhaps if you fix up the engine and exchange it for a Monadial T, 348, 355 or 360 unit it will be easier...
On the otherhand the 328 are nice car, the interior seems gold in this one and I want to see the BBi done...
I am in a current relationship with a Mondial T cab., And it is so much more reliable than my old 308 is considerably faster and though it isn’t as pretty, I always trust it to run and take a beating so I would say the 348 engine would be a great sweetheart if the 328 did not work out
Flywheel could well have shattered, I have had it happen and it causes huge destruction. Look around the engine bay to see if any bits have gone into the surrounding areas at speed and caused damage.
Well as cool as a 288 GTO tribute would be, I think if you ever really want to get the F40 project going, it would probably be better to restore the 328 and then sell it to fund the F40 project. If that 328 engine can be saved, then the 328 would be a great candidate for restoration.
I’m sure also if you built a 288 GTO tribute, you would probably want to keep it.
If the 328 was a GTB then it would be less work but because it’s a GTS with the targa top, that would be a lot more work, especially if you have to lengthen the chassis another 100mm also.
With the 328 market sky high right now, I imagine you would have a line of guys excited to own one at a fair down to earth price. might be worth restoring to a nice daily driver to flip for some cash flow to use on your sexier projects...
Repairing broken stud bosses in alloy is no problem for a good welder with a proper TIG machine or even a spool gun) and the repaired boss can be drilled out and thread inserts installed. In the past I've done jobs like this for customers for less than $250 USD, including installing the thread inserts (parts supplied by customer of course).
Great to know mate. Thanks for the info
Great new unit, Scott. Ideal for the winter months. Have you checked the engine bay for evidence of a rouge flywheel? If it let loose there should be plenty of damage as evidence. I’d say repair the car and sell it on. Will make a great project for us all the follow, and you should make a nice profit to prime the next project.
Engine looks pretty good, and certainly worth fixing. To get the bolts out of the crank, just weld some bolts to them, and undo them. The heat will loosen any locktite off and it wil save drilling them and getting swarf everywhere.
As for the ally casings. I have repaired aluminum casings like that before. There are lots of different approaches to it, depending on the load bearing of the threads that have been pulled and whether you are stripping the engine completelty or not.
Love it - 388 tribute is brilliant.
But for goodness sake, finish the BB bit also the Testarossa - the latter has done nothing but sit patiently - help her out! 😊
Rolling rack for parts as you go, each shelf for a different portion of work, wheel racks are always handy, mobile flat top bench, wall straps to hold engine lids and so on. Daylight spectrum LED bulbs tons too and no camera flicker like the fluorescent.
Hydraulic cart to move heavy items up and down to bench height is a huge help on the old back
It's how I had my shop setup and made a huge difference
Hi Scott great to see some content from you been missing seeing what you’re up to. I would keep the 328 standard it’s a big enough job as it is I wouldn’t make it any more difficult than it is already. Keep the vids coming mate love watching them take care 👍🏻
Those snapped bolts in the crank confirm what I said in the unveil video, the flywheel made a bid for freedom, also it's impact damage on the intermediate casing that is stopping it from sliding off the gearbox input shaft, in fact I thought I saw ring gear marks on the damaged bit of that boss, well worth rebuilding, those snapped bolts will come out easily with an eze-out due to the shearing and not being seized, those broken block holes are another easy fix, TIG weld up with a steel bolt screwed into the good bit of thread, the Ali weld won't stick to a steel bolt so it will build the missing casing up accurately enough to then re-drill and helicoil (much stronger helicoil thread in Ali anyway), it's a shame you are so far away from me ( Cheshire) as I'd love to tackle both those in my workshop 👍
I had no idea that was transverse mounted.
Everyday is a school day! Makes sense on reflection.
Do a proper GTO conversion with period correct engine and lengthened chassis. Way to go!
The Ferrari 388 looks really cool. You need to put the cars you're working on on your t shirts. You are a hell of a mechanic. Quality works stands out.
Congratulations on your new workspace. It looks great and should really help you a lot! As for the car, I'm relieved that the engine seems fine; that's really good news 🙂. Like other commenters though, upon hearing what would be required to make a GTO tribute, I have changed my mind and think you should restore the 328 to its former glory. It should be worth a nice sum once done, and you can use the cash on your other projects.
You might want to invest in an air-brush sandblaster. They've become cheap and available over the years. They're really good for cleaning SMALL areas (like for welding), or just cleanup of small parts/hard to reach detail areas. Of course it's dusty, so you have to factor that in.
Though the 288 GTO thing is a cool idea on one hand, changing all of that is going to be such a headache!
*Plus* the fact that it never came as a Spider, will always make it seem awkward...
Best bring it back to original! 👍
Congrats on the new spot!!
Dude, you are the realistic bro! Amazing you've listened to your fans of your channel and many things can be done not just in a faster manner, but you don't have to deal with the weather anymore and you have more room to get your projects done. You could just restore and flip the car for a quick profit. Get going on the F40 for real or finish the BB finally. Both of those been going on 2 years, I'm sure you wanna finish those
Scott, congratulations on the new shop! So happy for! Keep up the great content!
JEOPARDY!!! Brilliant video 👍🏻
I’d love to see this staying stock, TBH. It’s too low-mileage and too nice to mod, IMO.
This car is destroyed. How’s it too nice? lol
@@PaintGuy we have differing opinions on what 'destroyed' means. You might see a pile of parts, but I see hope 🤷♀
@@AlisonCassidyThe trans had a catastrophic event and the front is completely torn off haha. I’m with you though and like to see things get rebuilt :)
Yes! go for it!
Congratulations on the new shop! I have to say, however, that I will miss watching the driveway engine pulls.
Don’t worry I’ll still be doing driveway stuff on the channel
Please do a nuts and bolts restoration factory original! Too good for a tribute with the mileage.
Well done Scott, perfect size unit, easier to heat but best of all out of the rain👍👍Changed my mind now and reckon 288 or restomod conversion would be good. Reckon from initial view that block could be cleaned thoroughly, welded, dressed and re tapped…. Old studs in crank should be fine as no longer under load…. should easy out okay… keep the great vids coming…. 👍
If Tavarish can weld an ally engine block to rebuild bolt holes on a mclaren, why not do so on a Ferrari? Also if your keeping it then definitely do the GTO.
Congratulations on the Ratcave! I hope it fits all your needs.
Congrats! It is about time you got a larger space to work in!😀👍👍👍👍
Thanks 👍
Really recommend TwinBusch if you're after a lift , they do a low version of a 2 post for home garages which may work nicely there or a nice scissor lift. Had my 2 post for two years now and no issues at all, even though it's spent most of that time with a Silver Shadow on! Congrats mate on the shop, looks excellent!
cheers dude Ill check it out
Great workshop just in time for winter 👍
Great spot Scott! Restore the 328! Bring the ol girl back
Loved that Scott 👍🏻
Scott, don’t worry about background noise when you’re filming. Life has background noise. We don’t care.
Paint the garage space walls white, then do the Italian flag colours along the walls, put up some Ferrari banners, bang in a kettle and a mini fridge for cold drinks. Then add a bit of shelving and call your Uncle Bob, its done. Something nicer to workshop in!
Love it
Broken bolts: on a aluminium block, you can use a solution of alum powder to dissolve them (and not the block)
Your neighbours will be very happy. No more working on the driveway!🔧🛠️
Keep up the good work 👍
Made me laugh
Great upgrade, your new garage Scott. Great thing coming also, looking really forward to it.
Cool new spot !
Well done Scott on getting a bigger workshop you needed it. Might need a bit of heat in there for the winter.
I am really enjoying this build, great work 👍
Loving this style of video. Congrats on the cave
Restore it! Great RUclips content to show how is done!👍
Wow. When I was 16 I bought my first car with a blown engine. I bought an engine and swapped it in my driveway with a borrowed lift. I had a similar situation arise, but I was only 115 pounds at the time. There were no mobile phones. I had no help. I ended up pulling it off on my own, but it was not graceful. LOL! Thanks for bringing back some memories.
Happy to follow and see you restore older Ferraris, restore it, you got my support
Much appreciated!
Really happy you got a new workshop! Long time coming I think.
.. and this is where the F40 will be born. Love the new shop!
You are my absolute favourite car guy here on youtube! 💥
288 GTO conversion Please, they always looked incredible one of the prettiest Ferrari's , liked a pimped out 308.....
Great works , keep those videos coming! Well done with the crane wrestling match!!!
Congrats on the new workspace😊
Hands down best car channel ever
Tiny UK garages are a pain. I do my maintenance in my double garage, and there’s barely enough room between wall and wing mirror each side. I have a small scissor lift, which has been fantastic. Great for engine outs on my 911s, subframe removals, and so on.
Scott - When have you ever done easy with your restorations? You take on the tough ones and make great cars out of them. Go for the 288!!!
LOL
Oh and as a retired Tech. I would not have worried about turning the engine over by hand because you can feel it tighten and stop. After all that is what you need to know.
The people who pile on an air gun and whizz an unknown engine over just make me wince and then laugh.
The shop looks bigger in video! That’s definitely cool having a place like that
It is really good to see you in a larger shop 🙌🏻 Much needed upgrade. I can imagine your wife is just as excited. Gain some space infront of the house 🤣
288 conversation aounds harder than i first thought, I think a restoration would be a better plan now
Woah! Sketchy is a word that is'nt always nice. Huge fan, great job mate!
Great new Video, congrats on the new workshop.
What about some kind of storage system or racking for the panels you remove?
Watching you stand the engine cover against the wall brought this to mind.
Congratulations for being the most deserving RUclipsr of a great unit. If GTO really demands that much slicing and dicing. Wait until your ready for creating an F40 clone. Fully restored. This baby beast is still worth a very nice piece of change.
Great idea getting a Rat cave. We'll done. All of those snapped bolts look ok. Small tap and a reverse drill bit. Be sure you get a high quality bit.
Amazing video, Scott, !!!!
Paint the walls, white, smooth over the floor or get rubber matting. I think restore it myself.
Too many options Scott 😂. Love the new shop dude, it's about time 👍🏻
thanks dude
Make a brother to Ratarossa..shop the top off. I miss seeing work on the Ratarossa.
You’ll probably never be able to afford a GTO and you’ll never find a cheaper base car, so this might be the only chance to do the tribute. A tribute f40, GTO and convertible testarossa seems like the ultimate trio for the ratarossa legacy.
Slick, this will be great, congratulations.
The 288 GTO tribute would be a great project, but if my dream was an F40 of some description id probably go for the quickest option of restore and move on. But if you are considering doing a 288 tribute with it, would it be better to go straight to doing an F40 tribute instead?
Regardless which route you takee it will undoubtedly be great content👍
I have the F40 already covered .. the 328 is a bonus to use
So looking forward to this .....
make it original.........restore this cult-car! Magnum will love this too see it, back on the road. Keep up the good work!
I really like your attitude, very best to you
Mmm, a 288GTO and an F40 on the way. I can think of 3 more models that would keep your channel going for a while😂
288 all the way, hands down, no question for me. Cool content, just as I like it!
thanks buddy
I've loved this chanel, and work on my cars on my tight driveway, with limited tools, know how, with inspiration from like minded individuals like yourself, if you can do it, I can do it attitude. Please don't lose the essence of your chanel with this new workshop.
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Dont worry mate, i will be bouncing between workshop and normal driveway builds as mentioned in the video. I love the simplicity of working at home to
I would love to see it in a F40 conversion.That would be a Massive Milestone in your Collection.
Watch this space
Cool tunes today Rat!!!!
Thanks dude
Go the GTO track. Congrats on the new garage.
Oooo it just got a bit xmas special F40 barn better..!!!
Top job 👍👍👍👍🏎️
Definitely restore! I grew up with tv shows like magnum 🤘🏻
Nice garage / barn work shop man , even though I said part out that pig in the last vid it is cool to see the motor turn over an since you got the space now doing a GTO tribute would be pretty sweet , maybe you can fit a twin turbo kit on that thing ..
Wow 😮! Scott, that made my ass pucker 😖! Good quick thinking on your part and you owe your mate a beer and fish & chips 😉
I really do owe him.... Ive no idea how i would have not dropped the engine without him around
@@Ratarossa Enzo was looking down on you from Ferrari heaven and sent you the help 😉👍🏻