Let's not kid ourselves. The money for the Pizzaplex is obviously insurance fraud. Fazbear Entertainment is DEFINITELY the kind of whippersnappers to do that.
Think about it. They've had TWO places burn down. They could just fraud the heck out of it and BOOM! Enough money to make a high-tech Pizzaplex. Also, likely an in-universe Scott Cawthon lawsuit for painting the place with a bad picture. (See, FNAF 1, FNAF 2, FNAF 3, FNAF 4, FNAF SL, FNAF Pizzeria Simulator, FNAF Help Wanted intro). With how lucrative the franchise is, Scott could be sued for slandering and likely have to pay a hefty sum for that. With two fires and Scott's wallet under their belt, they could easily make the Pizzaplex.
@@AverageT Oh, another note, my good man. A patch dropped recently. Might be a good idea to make an addendum in the nigh future. You know, when they've finally made the game not Cyberpunk 2078. Or perhaps an addendum to the FNAF Iceberg in general. More than this is, of course. There's always a big breakthrough around the corner, who knows? Nonetheless, I know one thing. You've officially won a subscriber. Congratulations, my man.
I was just thinking about that last week. Like, why else haven't they just called it a wash by now, unless they're trying to get to the end of the season before Afton shows up to ruin everything again. XD
Concerning the fact that the Afton ending is the only cgi ending, I think that it’s the cannon ending. This could also be the case where the best ending may not be the true ending, like sister location. Also this leaves the option of Vanny returning. I do think it’s sad that ratings and censorship cut out some of what could be the better parts of the game. I still think the game is pretty good but we all know it could be better. I think that steel wool should update the game to have the censored and cut things like the knife and opening cutscene as I think it would be better to make the game better rather than to try to stay with ratings.
Exactly, if you do a lil research, it'll say that afton ending is the canon ending, playing some arcade game to free someone from a virus doesn't make any sense, and shouldn't be considered a "canon" ending, and many has been referred to the afton ending as the canon ending, i'm not sure if it's official but the princess quest ending CANNOT be a canon ending
I also uderstand how people think the "true" ending is the canon ending. There are lots of games where you need to do a lot of secret puzzles to unlock the secret ending(s). These routes usually take the longest to follow compared to the other endings in the respective game. This "true" ending can be seen as the canon ending because it follows most of the things I just said, but the Afton ending just fits more when looking through the whole franchise instead of just Security Breach's lore by itself.
Yeah , I found it odd that he considered one of the other endings a "true" ending, rather than the ending with full animation after dealing with all the animatronics and Burntrap. Ofc idk though, there's just a lot of speculation
Additionally, it would appear from remnants of certain files in the game they may have very well been fully animated at one point & intentionally redone to be in the comic style.
The amout of unused content shows to us that something happened,I agree with the theory that Steal wool changed the story during development and that's why while it has it moments it's messy.
@@andersondawn3631 I thought vanessa was gonna help gregory, also that cut content cutscene with vanessa and gregory in an elevator, is a th the prize corner, which canonically is supposed to take you to the lobby/entrance of the pizzaplex, you can use the elevator in the lobby but it doesn't take you up or down
To anyone who saw the other Iceberg videos and are curious as to why I’m not involved with this one, it’s because I still have yet to play Security Breach so I didn’t want to get anything major spoiled for me. Also it’s hard to have deep knowledge on a game that you’ve never even played lmao. However, I will be making another appearance on the channel at some point ;) Stay tuned!!
The development history of Security Breach is so crazy and interesting. Makes you wonder what else has been happening behind closed doors during those 2 years that we have yet to see.
i feel like vanny's screentime (or lack thereof) is probably more the result of something on a technical or design level rather than censorship. if the knife was a real problem then all they had to do was remove the knife from her model.
So, I haven't seen a lot of people mention this, but given that there's evidence of Gregory maybe living in the Pizzaplex for a while (the hidey holes and stashes), that is further backed up by one of the Comedy Bot's lines since the recent patch. The Comedy Bot has a line that hints at bad parents deciding to drop their kids off at their "favorite pizzaria" and then go on vacation. Of course, the bot calls the kid "little Jeremy" and the place the parents go is "Aruba" but still, it's veeeeery interesting.
I usually watch the video because A. I don't know anything and watch it because of that B. I watch it because I'm obsessed with it, and I learn I know E V E R Y T H I N G on the iceberg
39:12 The first aid book is in a box in Sunny's room, to the right of the BB arcade cabinet. Makes sense cause he takes care of kids all day. Also, i dont know why no one has mentioned this in an iceberg, but the endoskeleton maze segment was DEFINITELY meant to go underneath the daycare. It would have been connected to the East utility hall. To the far left of the save station of that segment is a rollup door that says OUT OF ORDER, over where you come out of a vent. If you go past that rollup door and look left theres a cutout in the wall for a door. I feel like that was supposed to link to the end of the East utility hall, especially since it has twitching endos in it. I think the only reason the endo maze was moved to over by parts and service was for pacing. I feel that there will be a dlc to change the layout of the Plex. Because the unused utility hall hasnt been removed from the game in the recent update, while other unused maps were.
31:52 there is more that implies Monty destroyed Bonnie like how there's actually also a message in the game that explicitly says Bonnie had been destroyed and they had decided to use Monty as a replacement
Okay okay, so it doesn't make any sense that Fazbear Entertainment had the money to open the Pizzaplex, right? Bear with me for a second. This theory started as a joke, but I think it actually had a smidge of merit to it, at least enough to be worth discussing. After all the missing kids, major budget cuts, sanitation issues, LITERAL ARSONS, and everything else, there's no way the Pizzaplex could open. In fact, if FNAF 3 is canon (which I've never heard somebody dispute), Fazbear entertainment must have completely shut down in between FNAF 1 and 3. I mean, if they were around, there's no way they would have allowed Fazbear's Fright to exist. But then, somehow they're back for FNAF 6. Except for the ending, where Henry explains Fazbear Entertainment doesn't exist anymore? And obviously it's actually back for real this time with Security Breach. So, after everything I stated above, Fazbear Entertainment came back not once, but twice. There *must* have been some kind of influence on somebody's behalf. Afton may be pretty much immortal, but he's not capable of all that. Unless, that is, that's exactly how he did it. Afton himself can't seem to die, and when you think about how souls possessed the animatronics, he kind of invented a form of necromanncy. Maybe someone with a lot of money and even more influence wanted to learn how to do that. Maybe they made a deal with Afton to fund the hell out of Fazbear entertainment, produce propaganda cartoons to clear the companies name, and try to cover up any "disappearances," in exchange for Afton continuing his research. So, what I'm saying is, government sanctioned robot necromancy. In all seriousness I don't think this is canon, but I feel like it fits pretty well and explains a pretty major plothole in the series. And that's not to mention other things it could help explain: maybe he did die in FNAF 6 and UCN was his personal hell, but the government brought him back for this purpose. If the gregbot theory is true, perhaps greg was simply the next step in Afton's research. I don't know, I personally like the theory and unless Scott/Steel Wool fix this plothole I am choosing to believe it.
I'm confused as to how the lore from AR means nothing though? It introduced us to Vanny who had once worked with IT and showed she was violent, which is reinforced through the therapy sessions. May be a bit redundant but I wouldn't call it retconned/meant nothing?
Steel Wool: Adding the TJOC characters in Security Breach One Night at Flumpty's, Five Nights at Candy's, POPGOES and practically every other Fazbear Initiative Game: Hey, Steel Wool, When will WE appear?
EXACTLY. maybe there's a possible chance that Steel Wool thought they would get in trouble or something, or didn't have the time contact the creators or something to put reference of fangames in the game (though idk bc idk if Steel Wool contacted TJOC's creator first before referencing it). I think Scott was doing something with (some) of the fan-games creators but as iconic as those and other fan-games are, why not give them a chance to reference them in security breach???? they deserve some more love too! there were tons of fun opportunities to reference more fan-games.. and it's not like the references would overshadow SB bc not many people talk about fan-games in the fandom anyway unless they're recent/upcoming ones.
32:51 Scott did say at the end he wasn't going to use NFTS .but that seems to be only because even when he used a more environmentally friendly version of NFTs people were still giving backlash on using them. Though one nfts are bad so the backlash as long as it wasn't too far is fair and I'm not Scott Cawthon I can only guess why he didn't make the NFTS.
@@somethingwithbungalows same. I've been in this fandom from day 1 and had seen everything, but the only thing capable of kicking me out would be NFTs. That's just an unforgivable sin for me.
the strangest thing about security breach is that there is so much time put into coding the message on michael's room in such a confusing way that ppl spend hours cracking the code, but then robot no see me when me go up duhhh duuhhh like .... cmon
My question is, why show a spoiler alert when you talk about burntrap in 10:08? You already spoiled his appearance in 3:50 Appart from that, this is quite amazing content, amazing job!
There was also a Message you could find in the game called "Hi Dave", which said "Please fire Dave, he's the worst" or something along those lines. I think that might be a reference to Dayshift at Freddy's.
Nice video just have 2 things to add on 1: It is not confirmed that the good ending is the TRUE ending, it could be a SL where the Bad ending is canon while the Good ending isnt and 2: Vanessa's last name starts with an A as confirmed by FNAF AR
Not sure how they have the money to build a mall and potentially others based on the existential freddy thing, when at the end of fnaf 6, they were no longer a corporate entity. Unless the whole "games being canon" in fnaf vr just destroys the lore that bad.
Here's an entry: Fnaf Security Breach Time Capsule Edition. This is a game on Roblox that has a simple premise: it's a game made during the hype for Security Breach, to show what the creator thought the game would've been like. It has things like an actual night system, playable Vanny segments, and actually functional. It's kinda interesting as it's a time capsule of what people thought Security Breach would've been, the calm before the storm. You can search it up on Roblox, or for the trailers of it on RUclips. (also I heard a update with stuff like a gallery is coming soon)
loved the video, your iceberg videos are really entertaining! but the constant referencing of matpats theories was a bit too much tbh idc if you agree with his theories or not, as i don't believe everything he theorizes entirely either, but this turned into a mini rant in some parts as this is an iceberg video i would've liked just a little less of that (please don't take this as an offense, as it's supposed to be more like criticism)
I agree tbh, Matpat takes shots in the dark sometimes but they sometimes end up being right and if not Gregory is a very mysterious character with not much at all to go off of
@@FeliciaHardy yes that's what i'm thinking. but i think the hate sometimes is too much. isn't that just why he makes !theories! ? they can be absurd and wrong perhaps, but with fnaf you have to question everything. i personally do believe that mike and the crying child are involved, he made many great links, didn't just say "they look alike" :D
I actually like MatPat quite alot, contrary to popular belief. The thing is MatPat's theories are probably correct, which is frustrating. Not MatPat's fault, he's simply the messanger in this scenario, it's the game's lore which we don't agree with.
34:29 Foxy is technically littered throughout the day care area. There's a whole ass statue of him and a whole lot of Foxy advertising. I thinks he was the original daycare attendant. Considering the day care is heavily pirate themes and they same to be trying to get rid of that. I think he was there at one point, but you know Foxy's they always are either in disrepair or taken out for hurting a child.
Man, it's great to see y'all having fun with the facts and theories on the list, and giving much-needed love to a game that needed a heck of a lot more of it during development. I still like the game overall, but I yearn to see what Steel Wool can do with the proper time. Maybe a sequel...? Also, there was a strangely high amount of robot fetish content on the iceberg considering how the speakers didn't want to talk about it/seemed uncomfortable with it lmao. Was that intentional?
43:32 Pls remember, just becouse there's places shown in the games doesn't mean there is more then that. We were shown what was last of the story we were being told. And in the fazbear frights fazbear entertainment seems to be selling toys and stuff at stores.
34:22 I honestly really feel like Glam Bonnie was never even supposed to have an implied existence. The game never even originally said anything even related to Bonnie’s existence with the exception of Bonnie Bowl. I think that the implications of Glamrock Bonnie’s existence came from fans being upset about his removal and getting replaced by Montgomery and it was just a lil reference made by Steel Wool that got taken a bit far.
My theory for how they could afford to build the pizzaplex is that they’ve been using their knowledge in robotics and AI to work on projects for the united states government and armed forces.
So the U.S government is testing a kid animatronics to go war man That would be so embarrassing if a enemy gets kill by animatronics for a pizza place lol
In the blob, there are theories that Vanessa hacked the Fazbear Funtime services in FNAF AR and use it to kill people and collect remnant and in the Vanessa discs, it says they were mangled and distorted. Meaning they must have been attacked by the AR animatronics from Vanny, and that even though molten Freddy and baby are scrap baby and molten Freddy they are from FNAF AR, just like Bonnie and Chica. Even though the puppets head is in there and he is not from FNAF AR, lefty was supposed to be a character, and the puppet is inside of lefty, therefore the puppet would be there. Vanny also used the Fazbear Funtime Service to kill anyone that got close to the truth to cover up glitchtrap and her as a whole.
@@legoguy228 prolly mor elike it, but maybe it is: "I brought you and his inamorata among others into this existence." What ever inamorata is - _(:/) _-
37:00 From Matpat's newest FNaF theory video, Matpat talked about how the blob is made from animatronic parts filled with agony and the parts that the blob is made of were part of the displays at the Rockstar Row that the blob takes. Not only that, but the blob would be a major focus for The upcoming Ruin dlc, and Afton may be taking over the blob instead of being dead since Agony is hard to remove. 49:33 also, that sounds mind blowing
I just found something cool about the "freddy and friends" shorts. Episodes 1 & 2 have numbers that are just glitched and random, but episodes 3 & 4 have a few that are fixes after a few seconds. X will equal unknown number: 1X1X21. This was before the official release date was announced, and I think this references the 12/16/21 release date. I dont think there are really any other explanations. I'm proud I found that tho. Also the security breach tv site is really cool to me.
i found somethin 20:28 look there, i saw look with frames I think it says "I brought you and his in am or at" they have more but idk im not to good at this, and this is just what i think its saying rn , I maybe will be wrong.
34:29 Well, to be fair, Kid's Cove is there, and given how it's separate from the Daycare, it could be that Foxy was meant to be there, but Fazbear Entertainment decided to cut back on production costs and they just had Roxy take full-time role of entertainer instead of Foxy being there.
25:18 This basically *confirms™* that Glamrock Feddy is Michael Afton!!111 Ya know, cuz Michael Jackson... Michael here, Michael there. That was a clue all along! The theory is real! Let's all go home. But Gregi isn't a robot, he's actually just Balloon Boy reincarnated as a real-life enragement child.
Hey there! I made the image of the "Eat yo food bitch damn" meme that has Glamrock Freddy! I know it's a quick stupid edit, and it may seem silly for me to ask this, but is it alright if I get credit in the description for it? (The meme in question is at 1:25)
Well Im waiting for this Edit: the reason the animatronics become more and more dirty because they become more withered because of burn trap needing energy
For the money I think fazebear intertainement own a Freddy fazebear themed nuceal power plant that distribute power to the pizzaplex and generate additional revenu
A-lot of compartmentalizing with the sections of the video but I quite like it. Makes it easy to see what you're hearing so to speak and if you have to go bac to something. Don't think enough channels do it to be honest haha.
the fact that the fandom is literally so obsessed with animatronics that are presenting as females (i don't really think I worded that right but I hope y'all understand) or visible hips/boobies to the point of making an "adult theory" is just... disappointing (is it me or it feels even more disappointing an iconic fan game creator made it? i hope it wasn't serious tho). like bruh rlly. its so bad that there's even people in the fandom (this happens more on reddit or gamejolt) immediately thinking an animatronic is sexualized, get mad that an animatronic is "sexualized" or joke about rule34 on fanart that is literally innocent and not meant to sexualized robo-body parts. i swear most of my art pieces were literally being bombed by people so bc they thought i was sexualizing the characters, got mad at boobies/hips or because "haha rule34".... and my art pieces wasn't meant to... you know. i deleted most of the comments tho (all of this happened when i was younger, like not 18+) people need to get a grip, why is big boobies, hips, visible boobies, whatever the fuck on an animatronic so important to be mad or to point at all the time lol. sometimes i like the jokes about "haha sexy robo" or whatever but it just gets so repetitive
Maybe the reason why they censored security breach is due to Sony which would also explain why it was rushed. While yes the fandom was rushing the game we have to remember that they had a contract with Sony that would make the game a launch game which not only would explain why it was rushed but why it was censored because it wouldn't be the first time that the PlayStation company thinks that animated/cartoony = childish and if we combine that with the fact that most of the fans started as children they would probably market it towards children even though we all know from the beginning it had really dark aspects. Also that around the time security breach came out news outlets were talking about how Sony wasn't accepting anime games for "being too lewd" even though Nintendo yes THE Nintendo has them on their e-shop. Also they have done something similar before in the early 2000's where they wouldn't accept anime or cartoon like games that weren't from the USA because they wanted to target to older audiences, but now being the reverse
I find it really funny that you guys obviously don't want the MatPat theories to be true. Trust me, I have issues with them as well, mostly due to the overall disappointing story telling on the game developers' part, but at this point, I wouldn't put it past the series nowadays. This game should've been as strong narratively as FNAF 5 and 6, but instead, we just got another FNAF 4 with the nature of speculative lore and delivery.
Rolling my eyes at all the childish, unnecessary jabs at MatPat The theories he tells aren't even that far fetched, ya'll just a bunch of pissy babies Leave him alone already, jeeze
Help wanted shows a construction site constructing the pizza plex setting for fnaf security breach, that sounds like the most cannon exlpanation on this iceberg
Now that I finished the video I have to say, its weird they censored things to be more family friendly, when it still isn't suitable for those 12 and under since it still as the same age rating as the rest of the franchise.
To my knowldege of the release of this game, the reason it got rescheduled was because there was an error with steam...For atleast the PC side of things
I think I know why the "just a glitch" scene was cut, because on-screen child murder (even mild depictions) is something that would give a game an AO rating almost instantly, basically condemning it from being sold in a conventional way. No GameStop, no WalMart, no Best Buy. Also, the ESRB discriminates against games they would eventually give an AO rating, constantly sending it back with no rating to force the devs to fix it. Not to mention discrimination trickling down to general mainstream. "What? This game whose characters that are sold as halloween costumes for children has an AO rating??" I can hear the Karens say...Oh they are shrill... Can you imagine, though? Five Nights At Freddys sitting next to Manhunt, Outlast and Hatred?? XD
Hey man, another great iceberg analysis. All four of you guys did a great job on this video! Really entertaining watch, even if I knew pretty much all of it. While I saw some errors, they were relatively minor. I have only one thing to comment on. Here is my hot take on the whole thing about BurnTrap: I see literally nothing wrong with William coming back. Scratch that, it would be bad if he had never come back. He is by far the best villain the franchise could have had and no one will ever top him. He was already confirmed to be back in HW and that game did a really good job bringing him back. SB messed up because it's so anticlimactic and you barely see him, but once again, I don't see anything wrong with him coming back. Actually, the fact that he seemed confirmed dead at the end of the original Scott heptalogy is the reason I still think FNaF3 & 4/World were better conclusions then 6 & 7. Horrors are the best when the ending is open ended. Like, who would replace him? Vanessa seemed alright, but she would just not beat William. There was nothing that promising about her. Just another, less interesting killer.... William is the only reason she was worth anything before SB. SB ruined her, but it did ruin most things. While I rather liked Eleanor, the fact that she was the main villain and William was defeated so quickly really didn't work for me at all. I'm not counting spinoff main villains, but while they are good for the most part, they don't top Afton. William is the best and should always return IMO. He doesn't undermine FNaF6's ending. He wasn't the most important one to burn, his victims were. He is the most justified one to come back. Bringing back his victims would undermine the ending. That's why the Blob coming back is atrocious. If it is Molten Freddy (which I personally don't believe), then this is going to literally be the worst plot point in the franchise. The MCI kids were the most important to burn in the FNaF6 fire. William, Golden, Charlotte, Elizabeth, Michael, Henry.... Anyone would be less bad to bring up then Molten. Also, bruh, this ending is called "true ending" and is the only animated one. It's pretty much accepted nowadays that it's the canon one. Like, it's not confirmed, but very likely. You probably shouldn't call it non-canon so much, so confidently. Also, Vanessa is called "Vanessa A." in SD. That was a pretty major mistake I think.
I personally think it would be better if Atfon came back one more time and that's it but his effect is still there. Afton is a great villan (mostly) but him always coming back had become aggravating,there’s only so many times we can see this man “die” before it gets too much. It will be hard to replace Afton but I think it's for the best,I heard people say that a copycat murder could work but I agree that someone like William again wouldn't have the same effect. It would be better if the new villain or antagonist is there own person. Like maybe Elizabeth,she has a backstory and everything,though she wants to make her dad proud so it still would be connected to Afton but she can do thing in her own way. However I've been hearing that people want a new start in fnaf,which and one end I understand but at the same times some people's stories like crying child's and Cassie's story hasn't been finished yet so a final arc for them would be good.
28:30
FNaF 1 - "The animatronics do get a bit quirky at night"
FNaF SB - "The animatronics do get a bit dirty at night"
Let's not kid ourselves.
The money for the Pizzaplex is obviously insurance fraud. Fazbear Entertainment is DEFINITELY the kind of whippersnappers to do that.
I. never. thought. of. this.
Think about it. They've had TWO places burn down. They could just fraud the heck out of it and BOOM! Enough money to make a high-tech Pizzaplex. Also, likely an in-universe Scott Cawthon lawsuit for painting the place with a bad picture. (See, FNAF 1, FNAF 2, FNAF 3, FNAF 4, FNAF SL, FNAF Pizzeria Simulator, FNAF Help Wanted intro). With how lucrative the franchise is, Scott could be sued for slandering and likely have to pay a hefty sum for that. With two fires and Scott's wallet under their belt, they could easily make the Pizzaplex.
@@AverageT Oh, another note, my good man. A patch dropped recently. Might be a good idea to make an addendum in the nigh future. You know, when they've finally made the game not Cyberpunk 2078. Or perhaps an addendum to the FNAF Iceberg in general. More than this is, of course. There's always a big breakthrough around the corner, who knows? Nonetheless, I know one thing. You've officially won a subscriber. Congratulations, my man.
@@GrubbusHubbus why do people compare a INDIE game with a AAA game made by a studio with 100s more people and a super high budget
I was just thinking about that last week. Like, why else haven't they just called it a wash by now, unless they're trying to get to the end of the season before Afton shows up to ruin everything again. XD
Concerning the fact that the Afton ending is the only cgi ending, I think that it’s the cannon ending. This could also be the case where the best ending may not be the true ending, like sister location. Also this leaves the option of Vanny returning. I do think it’s sad that ratings and censorship cut out some of what could be the better parts of the game. I still think the game is pretty good but we all know it could be better. I think that steel wool should update the game to have the censored and cut things like the knife and opening cutscene as I think it would be better to make the game better rather than to try to stay with ratings.
Exactly, if you do a lil research, it'll say that afton ending is the canon ending, playing some arcade game to free someone from a virus doesn't make any sense, and shouldn't be considered a "canon" ending, and many has been referred to the afton ending as the canon ending, i'm not sure if it's official but the princess quest ending CANNOT be a canon ending
@@Cyberfox237 Because FNaF always has and always will make sense
I also uderstand how people think the "true" ending is the canon ending.
There are lots of games where you need to do a lot of secret puzzles to unlock the secret ending(s).
These routes usually take the longest to follow compared to the other endings in the respective game.
This "true" ending can be seen as the canon ending because it follows most of the things I just said, but the Afton ending just fits more when looking through the whole franchise instead of just Security Breach's lore by itself.
Yeah , I found it odd that he considered one of the other endings a "true" ending, rather than the ending with full animation after dealing with all the animatronics and Burntrap. Ofc idk though, there's just a lot of speculation
Additionally, it would appear from remnants of certain files in the game they may have very well been fully animated at one point & intentionally redone to be in the comic style.
The amout of unused content shows to us that something happened,I agree with the theory that Steal wool changed the story during development and that's why while it has it moments it's messy.
I do know originally an old security guard was going to help Gregory, but it was changed to Freddy.
@@andersondawn3631 I thought vanessa was gonna help gregory, also that cut content cutscene with vanessa and gregory in an elevator, is a th the prize corner, which canonically is supposed to take you to the lobby/entrance of the pizzaplex, you can use the elevator in the lobby but it doesn't take you up or down
To anyone who saw the other Iceberg videos and are curious as to why I’m not involved with this one, it’s because I still have yet to play Security Breach so I didn’t want to get anything major spoiled for me. Also it’s hard to have deep knowledge on a game that you’ve never even played lmao. However, I will be making another appearance on the channel at some point ;)
Stay tuned!!
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@@Daggz As if there was any competition in the first place.
@@NatterJohn BAHAHAHAAHAAHAHA
Hey John
The development history of Security Breach is so crazy and interesting.
Makes you wonder what else has been happening behind closed doors during those 2 years that we have yet to see.
Man this just makes me sad. This game really needed some more time in the oven. There is so much cool stuff that has been cut.
i feel like vanny's screentime (or lack thereof) is probably more the result of something on a technical or design level rather than censorship.
if the knife was a real problem then all they had to do was remove the knife from her model.
Vanny had less than 2 minutes of screen time. That’s something I refuse to ever forgive. Security Breach has a total runtime of over 30 hours.
So, I haven't seen a lot of people mention this, but given that there's evidence of Gregory maybe living in the Pizzaplex for a while (the hidey holes and stashes), that is further backed up by one of the Comedy Bot's lines since the recent patch. The Comedy Bot has a line that hints at bad parents deciding to drop their kids off at their "favorite pizzaria" and then go on vacation. Of course, the bot calls the kid "little Jeremy" and the place the parents go is "Aruba" but still, it's veeeeery interesting.
when I heard that line in game I practically did a double take as i realized the similarities between the joke and Gregory's situation.
@@Ravvaroniandcheese yeah! So far it's the only indicator towards possible background for him. We know virtually NOTHING about him
The fact that this game alone has so much lore I love what this game has become coming from a early 2010's player this game has come so far
Oooh these are always interesting. Wonder how deep my knowledge goes…
Same
I usually watch the video because
A. I don't know anything and watch it because of that
B. I watch it because I'm obsessed with it, and I learn I know E V E R Y T H I N G on the iceberg
39:12 The first aid book is in a box in Sunny's room, to the right of the BB arcade cabinet. Makes sense cause he takes care of kids all day.
Also, i dont know why no one has mentioned this in an iceberg, but the endoskeleton maze segment was DEFINITELY meant to go underneath the daycare. It would have been connected to the East utility hall. To the far left of the save station of that segment is a rollup door that says OUT OF ORDER, over where you come out of a vent. If you go past that rollup door and look left theres a cutout in the wall for a door. I feel like that was supposed to link to the end of the East utility hall, especially since it has twitching endos in it. I think the only reason the endo maze was moved to over by parts and service was for pacing. I feel that there will be a dlc to change the layout of the Plex. Because the unused utility hall hasnt been removed from the game in the recent update, while other unused maps were.
31:52 there is more that implies Monty destroyed Bonnie like how there's actually also a message in the game that explicitly says Bonnie had been destroyed and they had decided to use Monty as a replacement
> **New iceberg video**
> Fuckin' sweet.
> **Premieres in 5 hours**
> Fuck.
“The AI in this game is dookie.” Strange, I don’t remember the AI being a kickass punk album.
BAHAHAHAHA
Okay okay, so it doesn't make any sense that Fazbear Entertainment had the money to open the Pizzaplex, right? Bear with me for a second. This theory started as a joke, but I think it actually had a smidge of merit to it, at least enough to be worth discussing.
After all the missing kids, major budget cuts, sanitation issues, LITERAL ARSONS, and everything else, there's no way the Pizzaplex could open. In fact, if FNAF 3 is canon (which I've never heard somebody dispute), Fazbear entertainment must have completely shut down in between FNAF 1 and 3. I mean, if they were around, there's no way they would have allowed Fazbear's Fright to exist. But then, somehow they're back for FNAF 6. Except for the ending, where Henry explains Fazbear Entertainment doesn't exist anymore?
And obviously it's actually back for real this time with Security Breach. So, after everything I stated above, Fazbear Entertainment came back not once, but twice. There *must* have been some kind of influence on somebody's behalf. Afton may be pretty much immortal, but he's not capable of all that.
Unless, that is, that's exactly how he did it. Afton himself can't seem to die, and when you think about how souls possessed the animatronics, he kind of invented a form of necromanncy. Maybe someone with a lot of money and even more influence wanted to learn how to do that. Maybe they made a deal with Afton to fund the hell out of Fazbear entertainment, produce propaganda cartoons to clear the companies name, and try to cover up any "disappearances," in exchange for Afton continuing his research. So, what I'm saying is, government sanctioned robot necromancy.
In all seriousness I don't think this is canon, but I feel like it fits pretty well and explains a pretty major plothole in the series. And that's not to mention other things it could help explain: maybe he did die in FNAF 6 and UCN was his personal hell, but the government brought him back for this purpose. If the gregbot theory is true, perhaps greg was simply the next step in Afton's research. I don't know, I personally like the theory and unless Scott/Steel Wool fix this plothole I am choosing to believe it.
this is so smart, the hell
I'm confused as to how the lore from AR means nothing though? It introduced us to Vanny who had once worked with IT and showed she was violent, which is reinforced through the therapy sessions. May be a bit redundant but I wouldn't call it retconned/meant nothing?
it explained where the animatronic making up blob's body came from
Steel Wool: Adding the TJOC characters in Security Breach
One Night at Flumpty's, Five Nights at Candy's, POPGOES and practically every other Fazbear Initiative Game: Hey, Steel Wool, When will WE appear?
EXACTLY. maybe there's a possible chance that Steel Wool thought they would get in trouble or something, or didn't have the time contact the creators or something to put reference of fangames in the game (though idk bc idk if Steel Wool contacted TJOC's creator first before referencing it). I think Scott was doing something with (some) of the fan-games creators but as iconic as those and other fan-games are, why not give them a chance to reference them in security breach????
they deserve some more love too! there were tons of fun opportunities to reference more fan-games.. and it's not like the references would overshadow SB bc not many people talk about fan-games in the fandom anyway unless they're recent/upcoming ones.
@@sweethearth-d9349 Agreed
32:51 Scott did say at the end he wasn't going to use NFTS .but that seems to be only because even when he used a more environmentally friendly version of NFTs people were still giving backlash on using them. Though one nfts are bad so the backlash as long as it wasn't too far is fair and I'm not Scott Cawthon I can only guess why he didn't make the NFTS.
The plushie dances being nfts just…
Fills me with this.. dread.. that I cannot explain
@@somethingwithbungalows same. I've been in this fandom from day 1 and had seen everything, but the only thing capable of kicking me out would be NFTs. That's just an unforgivable sin for me.
@@consueno753 And lets be real NFT's are just a major problem that are worse than crypto.
@@somethingwithbungalows At least they aren't anymore if that the case but I understand
the strangest thing about security breach is that there is so much time put into coding the message on michael's room in such a confusing way that ppl spend hours cracking the code, but then robot no see me when me go up duhhh duuhhh like .... cmon
My question is, why show a spoiler alert when you talk about burntrap in 10:08?
You already spoiled his appearance in 3:50
Appart from that, this is quite amazing content, amazing job!
the script was written about two weeks after the game was released, so it was still kinda spoilery there
@@AverageT TWO WEEKS?! No wonder theres a spoiler warning and mentions of the now removed unused maps
36:30
This hud IS actually used if im not mistaken.
For specificly it is used after you change freddy's eyes.
23:42: You forgot the Mangle Vent Repair near the laundry room exit
There was also a Message you could find in the game called "Hi Dave", which said "Please fire Dave, he's the worst" or something along those lines. I think that might be a reference to Dayshift at Freddy's.
also aftons fake name in the books i say its both cause no matter what its funny
its been a while since you posted glad you are back making content
1:57
Another thing:
Daycare Attendant says this when you attempt to go back into the daycare after you get banned
Sees a new iceberg video on fnaf security breach
“Welp. I guess my tasks can wait 52 minutes”
Watching a fun iceberg video: 😀 Mr.Springs shows up and starts being a nerd randomly in the video while I was having fun: 😐
Love the iceberg! I never played the game myself. So it was eye opening knowing how different this game is compared to everything else.
11:12 some wrong info, the ending with burn trap IS the canon ending
21:10
Actually vanny killed 8 people , there is a Gregory outline on the journal
man, remember the time when the series was just about 5 kids dying in a pizzeria? Good times
Nice video just have 2 things to add on
1: It is not confirmed that the good ending is the TRUE ending, it could be a SL where the Bad ending is canon while the Good ending isnt
and 2: Vanessa's last name starts with an A as confirmed by FNAF AR
39:39 Am I the only one who thinks the release date of these blacklight slimes seems kinda sketchy..?
Not sure how they have the money to build a mall and potentially others based on the existential freddy thing, when at the end of fnaf 6, they were no longer a corporate entity. Unless the whole "games being canon" in fnaf vr just destroys the lore that bad.
deadass didn’t expect a reference to the apollo 11 tapes and me and my friends at the end but here we are. good vid homies
Neither did I when writing the script man. 😩
Here's an entry: Fnaf Security Breach Time Capsule Edition. This is a game on Roblox that has a simple premise: it's a game made during the hype for Security Breach, to show what the creator thought the game would've been like. It has things like an actual night system, playable Vanny segments, and actually functional. It's kinda interesting as it's a time capsule of what people thought Security Breach would've been, the calm before the storm. You can search it up on Roblox, or for the trailers of it on RUclips. (also I heard a update with stuff like a gallery is coming soon)
loved the video, your iceberg videos are really entertaining!
but the constant referencing of matpats theories was a bit too much tbh
idc if you agree with his theories or not, as i don't believe everything he theorizes entirely either, but this turned into a mini rant in some parts
as this is an iceberg video i would've liked just a little less of that
(please don't take this as an offense, as it's supposed to be more like criticism)
I agree tbh, Matpat takes shots in the dark sometimes but they sometimes end up being right and if not Gregory is a very mysterious character with not much at all to go off of
@@FeliciaHardy yes that's what i'm thinking. but i think the hate sometimes is too much. isn't that just why he makes !theories! ?
they can be absurd and wrong perhaps, but with fnaf you have to question everything.
i personally do believe that mike and the crying child are involved, he made many great links, didn't just say "they look alike" :D
I actually like MatPat quite alot, contrary to popular belief. The thing is MatPat's theories are probably correct, which is frustrating. Not MatPat's fault, he's simply the messanger in this scenario, it's the game's lore which we don't agree with.
@@AverageT ok very nice to know your personal perspective. thank you for answering ^^ and again, you really make great videos!
@@Lydia_the_Orc Thank you so much , have a good day!
I still can't understand,how fazbear ent.-the company who been in low of economy and bad past times,build this big like IKEA mall?
36:44 Ain't this HUD used when Freddy gets Roxy's eyes as an upgrade? Because I do remember his eye HUD changing after the upgrade.
34:29 Foxy is technically littered throughout the day care area. There's a whole ass statue of him and a whole lot of Foxy advertising. I thinks he was the original daycare attendant. Considering the day care is heavily pirate themes and they same to be trying to get rid of that. I think he was there at one point, but you know Foxy's they always are either in disrepair or taken out for hurting a child.
Man, it's great to see y'all having fun with the facts and theories on the list, and giving much-needed love to a game that needed a heck of a lot more of it during development. I still like the game overall, but I yearn to see what Steel Wool can do with the proper time. Maybe a sequel...?
Also, there was a strangely high amount of robot fetish content on the iceberg considering how the speakers didn't want to talk about it/seemed uncomfortable with it lmao. Was that intentional?
uhm. *maybe.*
43:32
Pls remember, just becouse there's places shown in the games doesn't mean there is more then that. We were shown what was last of the story we were being told. And in the fazbear frights fazbear entertainment seems to be selling toys and stuff at stores.
34:22 I honestly really feel like Glam Bonnie was never even supposed to have an implied existence. The game never even originally said anything even related to Bonnie’s existence with the exception of Bonnie Bowl. I think that the implications of Glamrock Bonnie’s existence came from fans being upset about his removal and getting replaced by Montgomery and it was just a lil reference made by Steel Wool that got taken a bit far.
My theory for how they could afford to build the pizzaplex is that they’ve been using their knowledge in robotics and AI to work on projects for the united states government and armed forces.
So the U.S government is testing a kid animatronics to go war man
That would be so embarrassing if a enemy gets kill by animatronics for a pizza place lol
Why would the us government be part of and have something to do with the fnaf lore?
Deploy Freddy Fazbear
In the blob, there are theories that Vanessa hacked the Fazbear Funtime services in FNAF AR and use it to kill people and collect remnant and in the Vanessa discs, it says they were mangled and distorted. Meaning they must have been attacked by the AR animatronics from Vanny, and that even though molten Freddy and baby are scrap baby and molten Freddy they are from FNAF AR, just like Bonnie and Chica. Even though the puppets head is in there and he is not from FNAF AR, lefty was supposed to be a character, and the puppet is inside of lefty, therefore the puppet would be there. Vanny also used the Fazbear Funtime Service to kill anyone that got close to the truth to cover up glitchtrap and her as a whole.
Actually it would be 8 kids since one of the kid pictures looks like Gregory
20.28:
"I brought you and among her sin Sex ten?"
Sorry what, I must have gotten that wrong. Help please?
You’re the only one who noticed the damn code alongside me
i brought you and his inamorata among other sin to this existence
@@legoguy228 prolly mor elike it, but maybe it is: "I brought you and his inamorata among others into this existence."
What ever inamorata is - _(:/) _-
This was a great video really enjoyed it!!
Why is people insist Adult Theory being a thing
I don't know but I think the Afton end is probably the cannon one after all it's the most hardest to get and it has the most unique end
Looks like it's that time again. Timestamps!
Intro - 0:00
(Lil T) Level 1 (The Sky) - 1:00
(Lil T) Level 2 (The Tip) - 9:00
(Mr. Springs) Level 3 (Shallow Waters) - 18:24
(Mr. Springs) Level 4 (The Middle) - 24:54
(Daggz) Level 5 (Lower Iceberg) - 32:07
(Daggz) Level 6 (The Depths) - 35:52
(Lil T) Level 7 (The Abyss) - 39:33
Outro - 51:03
Icebergs videos let your mind feel alone and scared, you feel that you are not supposed to be there or know that thing.
37:00 From Matpat's newest FNaF theory video, Matpat talked about how the blob is made from animatronic parts filled with agony and the parts that the blob is made of were part of the displays at the Rockstar Row that the blob takes. Not only that, but the blob would be a major focus for The upcoming Ruin dlc, and Afton may be taking over the blob instead of being dead since Agony is hard to remove.
49:33 also, that sounds mind blowing
Your Name still automaticlly translates into "small T" in german xD
But nice Iceberg again :D
I just found something cool about the "freddy and friends" shorts.
Episodes 1 & 2 have numbers that are just glitched and random, but episodes 3 & 4 have a few that are fixes after a few seconds. X will equal unknown number: 1X1X21. This was before the official release date was announced, and I think this references the 12/16/21 release date. I dont think there are really any other explanations.
I'm proud I found that tho. Also the security breach tv site is really cool to me.
i found somethin 20:28 look there, i saw look with frames
I think it says
"I brought you and his in am or at"
they have more but idk im not to good at this, and this is just what i think its saying rn , I maybe will be wrong.
h m m m m
34:29 Well, to be fair, Kid's Cove is there, and given how it's separate from the Daycare, it could be that Foxy was meant to be there, but Fazbear Entertainment decided to cut back on production costs and they just had Roxy take full-time role of entertainer instead of Foxy being there.
25:18 This basically *confirms™* that Glamrock Feddy is Michael Afton!!111
Ya know, cuz Michael Jackson...
Michael here, Michael there.
That was a clue all along! The theory is real! Let's all go home.
But Gregi isn't a robot, he's actually just Balloon Boy reincarnated as a real-life enragement child.
EXACTLY
Hey there! I made the image of the "Eat yo food bitch damn" meme that has Glamrock Freddy! I know it's a quick stupid edit, and it may seem silly for me to ask this, but is it alright if I get credit in the description for it? (The meme in question is at 1:25)
yeah ofc!
"A producer who worked on Mortal Kombat has said they prefer SB to MK."
This was a warning.
Well Im waiting for this
Edit: the reason the animatronics become more and more dirty because they become more withered because of burn trap needing energy
For the money I think fazebear intertainement own a Freddy fazebear themed nuceal power plant that distribute power to the pizzaplex and generate additional revenu
A-lot of compartmentalizing with the sections of the video but I quite like it. Makes it easy to see what you're hearing so to speak and if you have to go bac to something. Don't think enough channels do it to be honest haha.
I'm glad you found the compartmentalizing helpful and appreciate your support. Thank you!
Hey I love scrap trap btw this is better then I thought
the fact that the fandom is literally so obsessed with animatronics that are presenting as females (i don't really think I worded that right but I hope y'all understand) or visible hips/boobies to the point of making an "adult theory" is just... disappointing (is it me or it feels even more disappointing an iconic fan game creator made it? i hope it wasn't serious tho). like bruh rlly. its so bad that there's even people in the fandom (this happens more on reddit or gamejolt) immediately thinking an animatronic is sexualized, get mad that an animatronic is "sexualized" or joke about rule34 on fanart that is literally innocent and not meant to sexualized robo-body parts.
i swear most of my art pieces were literally being bombed by people so bc they thought i was sexualizing the characters, got mad at boobies/hips or because "haha rule34".... and my art pieces wasn't meant to... you know. i deleted most of the comments tho (all of this happened when i was younger, like not 18+)
people need to get a grip, why is big boobies, hips, visible boobies, whatever the fuck on an animatronic so important to be mad or to point at all the time lol. sometimes i like the jokes about "haha sexy robo" or whatever but it just gets so repetitive
I think the remix of the UCN song would be used when the player won survival mode on nightmare difficulty
26:05
I was bored, but this exact note translates to "w4y is i", which kinda has some logical way it can be part of lore, but who knows
for some reason, 25:11 made me burst out laughing, especially with mr. Springs' hilarious commentary.
Maybe the reason why they censored security breach is due to Sony which would also explain why it was rushed. While yes the fandom was rushing the game we have to remember that they had a contract with Sony that would make the game a launch game which not only would explain why it was rushed but why it was censored because it wouldn't be the first time that the PlayStation company thinks that animated/cartoony = childish and if we combine that with the fact that most of the fans started as children they would probably market it towards children even though we all know from the beginning it had really dark aspects. Also that around the time security breach came out news outlets were talking about how Sony wasn't accepting anime games for "being too lewd" even though Nintendo yes THE Nintendo has them on their e-shop. Also they have done something similar before in the early 2000's where they wouldn't accept anime or cartoon like games that weren't from the USA because they wanted to target to older audiences, but now being the reverse
Foxy is the only one except the puppet that can see through the mask in FNaF 2. That's why Roxy might have Foxy's eyes.
18:10. RHAT FREAKING MADE ME JUMP
I had a feeling that one Freddy worm thing in the thumbnail was just a edit of photoshop (similar to the skull puppet )
bingo
10$? For a McDonald's toy? Better come with some free DLC at that price
In all seriousness though, great vid! Awesome job
I find it really funny that you guys obviously don't want the MatPat theories to be true. Trust me, I have issues with them as well, mostly due to the overall disappointing story telling on the game developers' part, but at this point, I wouldn't put it past the series nowadays. This game should've been as strong narratively as FNAF 5 and 6, but instead, we just got another FNAF 4 with the nature of speculative lore and delivery.
I'm surprised this wasn't mentioned but on every security desk there's a framed picture of Roxy along with a bottle of... something.
Rolling my eyes at all the childish, unnecessary jabs at MatPat
The theories he tells aren't even that far fetched, ya'll just a bunch of pissy babies
Leave him alone already, jeeze
I like how monty just skidaddles through the hallway in 15:59
Do the secret fazer blast line. The door that I quote "Requires Gregory".
I’m so confused people aren’t thinking that the blob is just molten Freddy, and I always thought the afton ending was the canon one..
Help wanted shows a construction site constructing the pizza plex setting for fnaf security breach, that sounds like the most cannon exlpanation on this iceberg
For censorship, another thing that was removed was Chica screaming while being crushed by the trash compactor to make it "less violent."
Has nobody noticed the discord message in the video
I know it's a year old video, but doesn't Glitchtrap already undermine fnaf 6's ending anyway, because of the implication of his Afton in someway?
Now that I finished the video I have to say, its weird they censored things to be more family friendly, when it still isn't suitable for those 12 and under since it still as the same age rating as the rest of the franchise.
19:15 no.... just.... no...... Stop
36:45 I was expecting you to say "ride" ngl
Has anyone ever outed themselves harder than ‘the robot theory OBVIOUSLY isn’t true they’re cLearly just censoring how sexy the murder rabbit is’
To my knowldege of the release of this game, the reason it got rescheduled was because there was an error with steam...For atleast the PC side of things
I can’t wait until the video premiers
14:34 Is that Burntrap on the left? Is it a haluzination? xD
47:23
Vanessa actually has a last name given in the fnaf AR emails, it starts with a A
the mint ice cream vanessa is eating looks like the same one just without the second scoop of vanilla from the poster in the help wanted 2 trailer
I’m quite excited for the dlc and it to come to Nintendo
All hail Soviet Pizza Plex.
I think I know why the "just a glitch" scene was cut, because on-screen child murder (even mild depictions) is something that would give a game an AO rating almost instantly, basically condemning it from being sold in a conventional way. No GameStop, no WalMart, no Best Buy. Also, the ESRB discriminates against games they would eventually give an AO rating, constantly sending it back with no rating to force the devs to fix it. Not to mention discrimination trickling down to general mainstream. "What? This game whose characters that are sold as halloween costumes for children has an AO rating??" I can hear the Karens say...Oh they are shrill...
Can you imagine, though? Five Nights At Freddys sitting next to Manhunt, Outlast and Hatred?? XD
Hey man, another great iceberg analysis. All four of you guys did a great job on this video! Really entertaining watch, even if I knew pretty much all of it. While I saw some errors, they were relatively minor.
I have only one thing to comment on. Here is my hot take on the whole thing about BurnTrap: I see literally nothing wrong with William coming back. Scratch that, it would be bad if he had never come back. He is by far the best villain the franchise could have had and no one will ever top him. He was already confirmed to be back in HW and that game did a really good job bringing him back. SB messed up because it's so anticlimactic and you barely see him, but once again, I don't see anything wrong with him coming back. Actually, the fact that he seemed confirmed dead at the end of the original Scott heptalogy is the reason I still think FNaF3 & 4/World were better conclusions then 6 & 7. Horrors are the best when the ending is open ended. Like, who would replace him? Vanessa seemed alright, but she would just not beat William. There was nothing that promising about her. Just another, less interesting killer.... William is the only reason she was worth anything before SB. SB ruined her, but it did ruin most things. While I rather liked Eleanor, the fact that she was the main villain and William was defeated so quickly really didn't work for me at all. I'm not counting spinoff main villains, but while they are good for the most part, they don't top Afton. William is the best and should always return IMO. He doesn't undermine FNaF6's ending. He wasn't the most important one to burn, his victims were. He is the most justified one to come back. Bringing back his victims would undermine the ending. That's why the Blob coming back is atrocious. If it is Molten Freddy (which I personally don't believe), then this is going to literally be the worst plot point in the franchise. The MCI kids were the most important to burn in the FNaF6 fire. William, Golden, Charlotte, Elizabeth, Michael, Henry.... Anyone would be less bad to bring up then Molten.
Also, bruh, this ending is called "true ending" and is the only animated one. It's pretty much accepted nowadays that it's the canon one. Like, it's not confirmed, but very likely. You probably shouldn't call it non-canon so much, so confidently.
Also, Vanessa is called "Vanessa A." in SD. That was a pretty major mistake I think.
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@@Tpalt Yup, I'm a redditor.
@@shyguymike cringe I’m a redditer too I make not funnie memes
I personally think it would be better if Atfon came back one more time and that's it but his effect is still there. Afton is a great villan (mostly) but him always coming back had become aggravating,there’s only so many times we can see this man “die” before it gets too much. It will be hard to replace Afton but I think it's for the best,I heard people say that a copycat murder could work but I agree that someone like William again wouldn't have the same effect. It would be better if the new villain or antagonist is there own person. Like maybe Elizabeth,she has a backstory and everything,though she wants to make her dad proud so it still would be connected to Afton but she can do thing in her own way. However I've been hearing that people want a new start in fnaf,which and one end I understand but at the same times some people's stories like crying child's and Cassie's story hasn't been finished yet so a final arc for them would be good.
oh, I wasn’t sure about Vanessa’s last name, I’m pretty sure only the top four are the glamrocks whereas the rest I’m not sure about.
20:28 It's solving time... xd
I love this video
I agree
Bro me too
Yes
@@AverageT I
Understandable, see you in ten years.
Gascot Gregory is something I never thought I wanted to see..