I just did a brushless conversion on the same car! Such a huge improvement. Took it to a dirt patch today and the brushless really takes it to a whole new level.
For anyone wondering, the noise after the brushless motor was installed is 100% binding and too tight a' mesh between pinion and spur. Try the paper method when meshing gears ❤❤ awesome video though! ❤❤
Damn shame your not uploading anymore. I just ordered the tt02 Subaru and watched your full build. Really great series that included all links to hop ups and showed the bags with part numbers. I really wish more you tubers did this. You had a good thing going with your channel.
Hello John. The high speed gear set isn't for powerful motors. High speed in Tamiya terms means top speed. I.e low powered motors geared for top speed (large pinion, small spur). For you situation, using a powerful motor like the one you have requires a small pinion count and a high spur tooth count in order not to prematurely wear out gears.
I learned that for sure. Looking into a metal spur gear next. Thanks for the clarification. Guess I should have looked more carefully before the install. Oh well. Next time.
@@JohnBattistini00 The kit spur should do fine. I would look into a tamiya hardened low tooth count pinion. A 17t or 18t to start. I am building a tt02 rally car for competition and have opted for outright acceleration and torque over top speed.
@@gatzuberserker cool. I will try that I am getting another identical spur to replace the one I stripped along with the metal so I will look at a different pinion as well. Thanks.
Hey there. I have 26 and 27 tooth pinions matched with the 68t spur. No issues ripping up and down the street. Spurs are clean as a whistle. Get a tornado fan from yeah racing for your motors. I also think a metal spur is not a good idea. You will find metal shavings under the cover.
@@gatzuberserker 17t - 18t is way too low ... that's a ratio of over 9:1 with that motor anything above 7:1 is probably fine, . With 25T / 68T spur you get 7.07:1 For reference Tamiya manual state that 10.5T 3370kv motor should use range of 6.5-9.3 gear ratio
I ripped my Gear with a 4500kv brushless Instant, i bought a beltdrive Universal convert kit from eBay for 15$ it works and i was surprise how silent this is now. After 3 month of driving i needed a new belt but it cost me 2$ for a Pack with 5 of them and installing a new one Takes nearly no time.
Righttt 😂 I see so many builds of this car and they just leave the body posts long lol it bugs me I have the same car and I have it cut all the way down to just 1 mount hole sticking out
Make sure the gears have just a little slop in the mesh. You never want it tight or plastic spur will strip in a matter of a few runs. I have had the stock plastic spur in my tt02b for years and have over 20 packs of 2s lipo runs through it. Never stripped anything. 3900kv 23 pinion with stock plastic spur. Running 34mph gps verified and bashing.
Hi John, plastic spur gear should be fine, make sure you order steel pinion and your problem is solved. I think that weak aluminium pinion destroyed your spur. I'm running steel 25-31t pinions with 4300kv motor and 3s - no issue. Also check the mesh carefuly.
I saw another video where a guy upgraded his TT02 to brushless & he used a smaller plastic spur gear with a bigger than usual aluminum pinion gear & his seems to work amazing. He's doing speeds of 97mph, but with the correct tire compound, & so on. So it sounds like you might need an aluminum pinion with a plastic glass infused spur gear
Hi, I've got high speed gear sets in a couple of my TT01s. They run super smooth and they fly along. Got an alloy motor mount in one and standard Tamiya plastic in the other. They both have mounting holes so ensures no slipping, misalignment etc... Just be sure to use the correct holes. I assume TT02 is similar so maybe try the standard motor mount... great video and I've just subscribed too...
Gear mesh to close you can hear the high pitch whine stick a piece of paper in between to get proper gear mesh. Im running same set up with 3300kv motor 25t pinion and 64t spur with no problems.
One thing about the high speed gear setup is that you dont have to use Tamiya spurs and pinions. Im using a Robinson Racing composite pinion and a 3 Racing spur gears, much lighter rotating mass👍
@@dontforget.thetruth9305 The spur gear was ordered off of the TQ Racing website and I was lucky enough to find an old Robinson Racing pinion gear from my local hobby shop, idont think that company makes those anymore. I think Trinity makes composite pinions not to sure though. So check TQ Racing website they probably have those types of pinions👍
man. my dad used to be really into rc and i showed him this video and he told me a bunch of story's about his old tamiya's and since ive seen this i want to get a tt-02 but sadly I cant afford
Thanks for sharing! That sounds like a great moment you two had. You should check ebay or other sites and see if you can pick one up for less than retail.
Your mesh was way to tight even on the bench at the start. The sound and fast slowing of motor was a dead giveaway. The high speed set is fine but buy a 48dp spur and pinion as gearing options will be much wider than the mod6 I think it comes with. I run a 10.5t brushless on mine with 62t 48dp spur and 28t pinion and it runs beautiful. Remember to make sure you enough backlash on the gears for them to rotate freely. But good vid dude and keep em coming
when you first pressed the throttle wile on the table the gear mesh Sounded to tight. Anyway I have the same car and used the same brushless. Thanks for the vid!
Hey there. First time commenter here….but I have a couple TT02s with the high speed gear set. Note, when you use it (or different pinion) the holes you use for mounting the motor mount shift from what is in the manual. I made a similar mistake on my TT02 and the gear mesh was too tight. Luckily I caught it and made the adjustment. May not be the issue here, but something to look into. I have a brushless motor in my TT02s and they rip. If I had to be venture a guess, more than 50mph….maybe more. And I run 3s.
Nice. I have the Yeah Racing motor motor mount so while I don't have to worry about the hole I do have to align the mesh by hand, and I get I messed it up. Going to really work on it when I get the replacement spurs and new pinions.
@@JohnBattistini00 ah yeah, the yeah racing part doesn’t have the mounting holes. Get the Tamiya part and you won’t have to worry about it moving on you or not getting the mesh right. I think that solves your problem.
I run a 4000kv on 2s with stock diffs speed gear and 25 pinion. Never had any issues with the diffs. They hold up pretty good. I also never had a problem with the spur. Get the Tamiya TT02 Motor mount 54558 with the holes for different pinions. Don't use some slotted shit an mess around with gear mesh...
Subbed I had the same car in real life I was in UAE they got these cars we in USA never got the best versions where these plus getting into scale RC cars and maybe drift love the brand too
Mine does about 40 with the brushless and gearing I have. Ive got the same subaru. Just flipped it in the road and was soo bummed.lol ive been babying that body.
@@JohnBattistini00 I have the soft compound tamiya rally blocks. A little better grip than the stock rally block but a little hard to come by in the states. Ive got some contact foams on the way. Im putting a 45t pinion and 49t spur on it with a 59000 kv for speed runs with a different body. People have gotten 100mph out of that setup soo im looking forward to it.lol
The pinion mesh never sounded right from the minute you bench tested it. I have dozens of Tamiya cars with brushless systems, some way more powerful than that, and they are just fine on the standard plastic spur gear. I do find with aftermarket motors, some don't line up and give correct mesh just by using the numbered hole in the Tamiya engine mount. They are drilled slightly out of whack on the motor can. You need to manually check it, or use the yeah racing mount that has infinite adjustment, not just set holes.
This is an old video but the minute you took off I immediately knew by the whine sound that the mesh was set incorrectly, do you manually set the mesh on these cars or do they have set gear mounts ? a car should never whine like that when set with the right amount of play, it sounds like the mesh was set way to tight even on the brushed motor it sounds tight., there's nothing wrong with the plastic spur I run plastic spurs with aluminum pinions in all my Drag cars going over 80 mph in 132 feet, for drag cars etc it's all in the mesh and installing it correctly, installing a metal spur won't fix the problem itll only create another issue down the line ie: smoke your motor, your transmission etc etc, id highly recommend staying with the plastic spur and aluminum pinions and figure out why the mesh is so tight . Plastice spurs will never burn out out regardless the power if set correctly 👍🏁💯
Looks like you had a better luck with aluminum upgrades than me, had to ditch some because they just didn't want to work, also have to tear apart the front dif this weekend as it does not turn with the rear dif.
@@JohnBattistini00 The front dog bones just didn't work like they should, kept binding up, the rear hubs I bought had to file done the sides on the lower half so it would fit in the rear suspension arms I bought, I think If I could have gotten all the aluminum parts from one person might have had a better fit?
Oh maybe. I have seen complaints that some of the different manufacturers stuff doesn’t all fit with each other. Did you eventually get it all sorted and running?
I've got the TT02 as well, looking to upragde to brushless. I'm surprised that your brushed system went 27 km/h. My brushless system a completely stock with a 15 turn motor, and maxes out at 42.9 km/h (26Mph).
I actually think that might be a decent deal. Not totally sure of the conversion rate but it might be worth it. For me though half the fun is the build.
@@JohnBattistini00 Thanks John, I am new to assembling cars and I just don’t have all of the tools and stuff. Paint costs money among other things, so I just thought if I can get one already built and learn to work on it then that may be helpful. I have subbed :)
@@JohnBattistini00 It would need a powerful brushless motor to work as im olde school nicad, nimh and brushed motors only guy. But yes 67t spur...............
Still one of the reasons why I haven’t bought one because I cannot handle plastic gears! They must make a metal gear set for that? Until then the TTO2 is not in my future!
If you buy the high speed gear set, you can easily swap over to a metal spur because the high speed gear set allows for their to be any spur that has screw holes, maybe the tt02 is in your future!
METAL VS PLASTIC ADD BRUSHLESS POWER YES BEEN THEIR. I HAVE ONE COMING HOME SOON ALREADY BUILT AND PAINTED WITH 13.5 TURN BRUSHLESS SYSTEM STOCK ESC BENCH TEST BUT NEVER BEEN DRIVEN I WILL LEARNING TOO.I'LL BE WATCHING YES SUB TO YOUR CHANNEL GREAT VID GOD BLESS BROTHER AL YAKIMA,WA. I LOVE THIS HOBBY WIFE??!!
@@JohnBattistini00 JUST GOT THE GEAR SET RUNNING 64/26 13.5 TURN MOTOR 5200mAh 50C HAVE NO MPH. TESTER BUT FASTER THAN 25 TO 30. TURNS ON A DIME. I ALSO RUN GASERS 26. TO 45CC 1/5 SCALE LOVE THIS HOBBY GOD BLESS BROTHER AND FAMILY AL YAKIMA,WA
The gear mesh sounded way to tight on the bench test. Also, Did you change the pinion gear or using the 1 with the kit? Tamiya uses that wierd gear pitch. I did a high speed conversion on this same car, I got the 48p spur and changed from the tamiya pinion to an aftermarket 48p pinion. I'm running a hobbywing justock 13.5 system in mine, with a metal driveshaft and a ball bearing kit. I have had absolutely no issues with my drivetrain so far. I've a bunch more upgrades, mostly for suspension and steering but the drivetrain seems pretty solid in these.
@@Canadian_Spartan I haven't put my performance analyzer in it to get an exact speed. I can do that tomorrow after work and give u some solid numbers. I'll also include my battery specs.
@johnpapageorgiou8058 so John, I said heck with it and I just went out and did a run for you to see what we could get. On a cheap Gens Ace 5200mah 35C 2S pack, I just ran 25mph. I am using the high speed gearing and went up 3 teeth (i think) on the pinion. My car isn't built for speed runs. It's setup for medium size rally tracks. It runs very cool and could easily handle a few more teeth on the pinion. I also run a lexan dust cover that restricts airflow, so I have to be careful about overgearing it as it will overheat. You should be able to hit 33mph easily and safely with your 13.5 setup. Hope this helps. I will try and get a video up on my channel soon, showing my rally setup and the analyzer data.
What a bummer with the spurgear... I have an buggy running with a plastic spurgear. Around 65kmh. It has no cover at all and IAM waiting for it to get stripped... But it holds on.
I have seen it. Looks like a good platform but the body style is just not really my thing. Are you gonna get one? What I really want to build is a Frog.
@@JohnBattistini00 if I had the money for it I would get it but I'd also get all the other avantes but I probably going to end up building the frog one day before I end up building that one I'd like a frog too.
So im thinking on swapping the brushed motor on my tt02 clone to brushless, will it make it faster? I was planning to use 9.6v nimh battery, would this work?
I honestly don’t know. Most people use a lipo battery to power a brushless motor. I have never tried to run anything but a lipo on my brushless motors.
I honestly do not know. Check the instructions, but I thought there was some disclaimer that the stock ESC should not be used with Lipo, but I could be wrong.
I realise this thread is from years ago, but the Tamiya TBLE-02S ESC can run a 2S Lipo, but the low voltage cut off cannot be changed to suit a lipo so you have to monitor the voltage or fit a cheap Lipo low voltage alarm. I'm sure we all know already but Lipo's CANNOT handle being regularly discharged below 3.2V, so monitor carefully.
Results may vary, but when I installed the high speed set in mine, it screamed! Not in a good way. It was loud, like yours. That is never good with gears. I changed pinions and tried different gear mesh settings. Didn't help. I finally grabbed a Robinson 48 pitch spur out of my spares and a losi pinion. Quiet as a mouse now. Maybe that is what happened to yours?
It's 100% your mesh, your not setting it correctly.. I run 80 plus mph in my Drag cars and on road cars with 48 P plastic spurs and aluminum pinions, when installed with the correct mesh and amount of play you can go 150mph plus it doesn't make a difference ,it has nothing to do with the plastic spur. installing metal spur gears only creates more potential disaster further down the line.. 👍🏁💯
@@ConditionZero76 Not true. I spent years racing dirt oval with 64 pitch gears and never had a problem. Just because you go 80 plus or 150 mph does not mean certain gears when put together, make noise. Why do you think gears on fullsize cars are cut different for forward and reverse? To cut down on gear whine. Ever heard an old honda civic back up at 10 mph?
They are from Yeah Racing. I have them on a few cars and they work great. Here's a link: www.rcmart.com/yeah-racing-shock-gear-50mm-damper-set-for-1-10-rc-touring-m-chassis-car-blue-dsg-0050bu-00036295
@@alfathinandasukmana424 There are instructions in the manual for how to set it up with the high ground clearance. I just followed those. Check out my build video if you want to see how it did it. I think those steps are in part 2, but I am not sure. ruclips.net/video/5HsvE_xyVLk/видео.html
@@JohnBattistini00 ok thanks mate. Maybe you used yr shock and effect to your ground clearence. I wanted to change my shock, but im confused to change between 60mm and 70mm
It's the Rally Cockpit set from Tamiya. I 3D printed the roll cage, so that doesn't come with it, but I did a whole review video on it previously on the channel if you want more info.
@@JohnBattistini00 i am going to try to do a custom graphic layout. The body will be gray and the decals will be a combination of highlighter yellow, white, black and a lighter gray
All us old school rc fans could all hear that the gear mesh was waaaayyyyy to tight on the bench , that bl system should have done around 30mph , It sucks when something fails but this was pure user error We live and learn . 😘
Very true. That’s why when I built it I put in upgraded Tamiya diffs with plans to do the future brushless conversion. There are a few videos on the build on the channel. You should check it out and let me know what you think.
I just did a brushless conversion on the same car! Such a huge improvement. Took it to a dirt patch today and the brushless really takes it to a whole new level.
Awesome. Can’t wait to get it back out there.
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For anyone wondering, the noise after the brushless motor was installed is 100% binding and too tight a' mesh between pinion and spur. Try the paper method when meshing gears ❤❤ awesome video though! ❤❤
Damn shame your not uploading anymore. I just ordered the tt02 Subaru and watched your full build. Really great series that included all links to hop ups and showed the bags with part numbers. I really wish more you tubers did this. You had a good thing going with your channel.
Thanks, appreciate the support. We'll be back!
I have a tt02
Put a Corvette body on it and
I used the motor and striped the spur gear.
I'm currently upgrading everything anodized.
Sounds awesome. Let me know how it turns out.
Hello John. The high speed gear set isn't for powerful motors. High speed in Tamiya terms means top speed. I.e low powered motors geared for top speed (large pinion, small spur). For you situation, using a powerful motor like the one you have requires a small pinion count and a high spur tooth count in order not to prematurely wear out gears.
I learned that for sure. Looking into a metal spur gear next. Thanks for the clarification. Guess I should have looked more carefully before the install. Oh well. Next time.
@@JohnBattistini00 The kit spur should do fine. I would look into a tamiya hardened low tooth count pinion. A 17t or 18t to start. I am building a tt02 rally car for competition and have opted for outright acceleration and torque over top speed.
@@gatzuberserker cool. I will try that I am getting another identical spur to replace the one I stripped along with the metal so I will look at a different pinion as well. Thanks.
Hey there. I have 26 and 27 tooth pinions matched with the 68t spur. No issues ripping up and down the street. Spurs are clean as a whistle. Get a tornado fan from yeah racing for your motors. I also think a metal spur is not a good idea. You will find metal shavings under the cover.
@@gatzuberserker 17t - 18t is way too low ... that's a ratio of over 9:1 with that motor anything above 7:1 is probably fine, . With 25T / 68T spur you get 7.07:1
For reference Tamiya manual state that 10.5T 3370kv motor should use range of 6.5-9.3 gear ratio
Just swapped my 2020 GR Supra tt02 to brushless and it made a whole world of difference. It’s now one hell of a drift car!
Nice. Sounds awesome!
I ripped my Gear with a 4500kv brushless Instant, i bought a beltdrive Universal convert kit from eBay for 15$ it works and i was surprise how silent this is now.
After 3 month of driving i needed a new belt but it cost me 2$ for a Pack with 5 of them and installing a new one Takes nearly no time.
Really? I had no idea that was even an option. I will have to look into it, thanks.
I love your build recently decided to start my own and your one of the few with out those ridiculously long body posts
Righttt 😂 I see so many builds of this car and they just leave the body posts long lol it bugs me I have the same car and I have it cut all the way down to just 1 mount hole sticking out
Ha, thanks.
Thanks, I hate that look too!
@@SlushyVeX a good 50% of drift builds I see are like that
Make sure the gears have just a little slop in the mesh. You never want it tight or plastic spur will strip in a matter of a few runs. I have had the stock plastic spur in my tt02b for years and have over 20 packs of 2s lipo runs through it. Never stripped anything. 3900kv 23 pinion with stock plastic spur. Running 34mph gps verified and bashing.
Hi John, plastic spur gear should be fine, make sure you order steel pinion and your problem is solved. I think that weak aluminium pinion destroyed your spur. I'm running steel 25-31t pinions with 4300kv motor and 3s - no issue. Also check the mesh carefuly.
Yeah I will be honest I think my mesh was too tight. Gonna make sure I have a steel pinion moving forward. Thanks!
The same thing happened with my spur gear. Went back to stock and kept brushless settings. No problems so far.
Very cool!
I saw another video where a guy upgraded his TT02 to brushless & he used a smaller plastic spur gear with a bigger than usual aluminum pinion gear & his seems to work amazing. He's doing speeds of 97mph, but with the correct tire compound, & so on. So it sounds like you might need an aluminum pinion with a plastic glass infused spur gear
Hi, I've got high speed gear sets in a couple of my TT01s. They run super smooth and they fly along. Got an alloy motor mount in one and standard Tamiya plastic in the other. They both have mounting holes so ensures no slipping, misalignment etc... Just be sure to use the correct holes. I assume TT02 is similar so maybe try the standard motor mount... great video and I've just subscribed too...
Awesome. Thanks.
Gear mesh to close you can hear the high pitch whine stick a piece of paper in between to get proper gear mesh. Im running same set up with 3300kv motor 25t pinion and 64t spur with no problems.
Gotcha. Thanks. I was worried and guess it was off. Hopefully with the new mount it won’t be an issue again.
One thing about the high speed gear setup is that you dont have to use Tamiya spurs and pinions. Im using a Robinson Racing composite pinion and a 3 Racing spur gears, much lighter rotating mass👍
@@shy1lrey880 oh cool. I need to look through my bag of parts then I may have one of those lying around from other builds. Thanks for the tip.
@@shy1lrey880 where did you get your set up?
@@dontforget.thetruth9305 The spur gear was ordered off of the TQ Racing website and I was lucky enough to find an old Robinson Racing pinion gear from my local hobby shop, idont think that company makes those anymore. I think Trinity makes composite pinions not to sure though. So check TQ Racing website they probably have those types of pinions👍
I've just bought the tamiya audi quattro on a TTO2 and a razer 10 60A 4000Kv brushless combo. Great video and I've subscribed 👍
That sounds awesome. Thanks for subscribing.
man. my dad used to be really into rc and i showed him this video and he told me a bunch of story's about his old tamiya's and since ive seen this i want to get a tt-02 but sadly I cant afford
Thanks for sharing! That sounds like a great moment you two had. You should check ebay or other sites and see if you can pick one up for less than retail.
@@JohnBattistini00 ive been on the look out no luck yet but i am crossing my fingers
Your mesh was way to tight even on the bench at the start. The sound and fast slowing of motor was a dead giveaway. The high speed set is fine but buy a 48dp spur and pinion as gearing options will be much wider than the mod6 I think it comes with. I run a 10.5t brushless on mine with 62t 48dp spur and 28t pinion and it runs beautiful. Remember to make sure you enough backlash on the gears for them to rotate freely. But good vid dude and keep em coming
Yeah, rebuilding it now, gonna make sure it fits right this time.
Very cool my friend I converted for my tamiya's to brushless🤟👊🇬🇧😎👍
Awesome. Brushless really wakes them up!
Awesome! Im thinking about going brushless too.
Nice. Do it!
I also have this car and will also upgrade to brushless, need to change steering mechanism to coz it's all over the place at the moment😀👍👍
Totally. I am really happy with the upgraded one from Tamiya that I installed. You may want to check it out.
will do 👍
i have this car, put shocks, bearings, foam inserts in it.
i have spectrum 5ch with AVC receiver, no wiggles / nice steering.
when you first pressed the throttle wile on the table the gear mesh Sounded to tight. Anyway I have the same car and used the same brushless. Thanks for the vid!
Thanks for the info, waaaay too tight. Guess I learned the hard way.
Hey there. First time commenter here….but I have a couple TT02s with the high speed gear set. Note, when you use it (or different pinion) the holes you use for mounting the motor mount shift from what is in the manual. I made a similar mistake on my TT02 and the gear mesh was too tight. Luckily I caught it and made the adjustment. May not be the issue here, but something to look into. I have a brushless motor in my TT02s and they rip. If I had to be venture a guess, more than 50mph….maybe more. And I run 3s.
Nice. I have the Yeah Racing motor motor mount so while I don't have to worry about the hole I do have to align the mesh by hand, and I get I messed it up. Going to really work on it when I get the replacement spurs and new pinions.
@@JohnBattistini00 ah yeah, the yeah racing part doesn’t have the mounting holes. Get the Tamiya part and you won’t have to worry about it moving on you or not getting the mesh right. I think that solves your problem.
Cool. Will check it out.
I've got the same high speed gear set..I'm running a 24t pinion on a 15 turn brushed hpi motor. On 3s batteries I'm getting 37mph...on 2s 26
Dunno how you only got 26 I'm running stock spur gear 3520kv motor 2s I'm hitting 30mph
Yeah I def have something wrong!
I run a 4000kv on 2s with stock diffs speed gear and 25 pinion. Never had any issues with the diffs. They hold up pretty good. I also never had a problem with the spur. Get the Tamiya TT02 Motor mount 54558 with the holes for different pinions. Don't use some slotted shit an mess around with gear mesh...
Yup just got a new mount in with the position holes. Hopefully will keep this from happening again. Thanks.
Subbed I had the same car in real life I was in UAE they got these cars we in USA never got the best versions where these plus getting into scale RC cars and maybe drift love the brand too
Awesome!
Mine does about 40 with the brushless and gearing I have. Ive got the same subaru. Just flipped it in the road and was soo bummed.lol ive been babying that body.
Whoa that’s fast I need to mess around a bit more and get my speed up there. Did you swap out the tires for something with more grip?
@@JohnBattistini00 I have the soft compound tamiya rally blocks. A little better grip than the stock rally block but a little hard to come by in the states. Ive got some contact foams on the way. Im putting a 45t pinion and 49t spur on it with a 59000 kv for speed runs with a different body. People have gotten 100mph out of that setup soo im looking forward to it.lol
I will have to try something like that. Thanks.
The pinion mesh never sounded right from the minute you bench tested it. I have dozens of Tamiya cars with brushless systems, some way more powerful than that, and they are just fine on the standard plastic spur gear.
I do find with aftermarket motors, some don't line up and give correct mesh just by using the numbered hole in the Tamiya engine mount. They are drilled slightly out of whack on the motor can. You need to manually check it, or use the yeah racing mount that has infinite adjustment, not just set holes.
Thanks, yeah I def messed up. Working on fixing it.
I agree. Sounded way to tight from the beginning.
Nice car, I have the same adjustable motor mount running a 29 , never checked the speed on brushless 👊🏻👍🏻
If you ever do def let me know what you get.
This is an old video but the minute you took off I immediately knew by the whine sound that the mesh was set incorrectly, do you manually set the mesh on these cars or do they have set gear mounts ? a car should never whine like that when set with the right amount of play, it sounds like the mesh was set way to tight even on the brushed motor it sounds tight., there's nothing wrong with the plastic spur I run plastic spurs with aluminum pinions in all my Drag cars going over 80 mph in 132 feet, for drag cars etc it's all in the mesh and installing it correctly, installing a metal spur won't fix the problem itll only create another issue down the line ie: smoke your motor, your transmission etc etc, id highly recommend staying with the plastic spur and aluminum pinions and figure out why the mesh is so tight . Plastice spurs will never burn out out regardless the power if set correctly 👍🏁💯
Cool, thanks for the info.
Looks like you had a better luck with aluminum upgrades than me, had to ditch some because they just didn't want to work, also have to tear apart the front dif this weekend as it does not turn with the rear dif.
Oh that is bummer. Where they unusable due to not fitting or were they just not made right?
@@JohnBattistini00 The front dog bones just didn't work like they should, kept binding up, the rear hubs I bought had to file done the sides on the lower half so it would fit in the rear suspension arms I bought, I think If I could have gotten all the aluminum parts from one person might have had a better fit?
Oh maybe. I have seen complaints that some of the different manufacturers stuff doesn’t all fit with each other. Did you eventually get it all sorted and running?
@@JohnBattistini00 Not quite yet, just don't look forward to taking apart the front dif to see why it is not working
@@70gambit yeah. That can be a pain. Good luck and keep me posted.
I've got the TT02 as well, looking to upragde to brushless. I'm surprised that your brushed system went 27 km/h. My brushless system a completely stock with a 15 turn motor, and maxes out at 42.9 km/h (26Mph).
Well I did not have it set up properly at all.
I guess you should switch to metal gears if you use a high torque setup. plus you wanna use a little grease in the gearbox i guess.
Yeah I need to look into that. Thanks.
Have you considered getting a chassis cover
Awesome video, think I should buy a fully assembled never used painted one with ball bearings for £150? Thanks
I actually think that might be a decent deal. Not totally sure of the conversion rate but it might be worth it. For me though half the fun is the build.
@@JohnBattistini00 Thanks John, I am new to assembling cars and I just don’t have all of the tools and stuff. Paint costs money among other things, so I just thought if I can get one already built and learn to work on it then that may be helpful. I have subbed :)
Well then that might just be a great way to go. Let me know what you decide.
@@JohnBattistini00 I have contacted him, he said it is still available. Hope this goes well! Thanks
@@JohnBattistini00 Hi John, I bought it and it’s setup. I’ll be doing mods to it to make it a better rally car 👍
The real ticket would have been a 10.5t sensored brushless motor off Amazon for $40 paired with the stock TBLE ESC.
That would be cool.
I wonder what a sidewinder 4 with a 3s would do
Im not a lipo brushless man but did try this.....................tt01 raven 10tx2 67t spur 22t pinion fast tt01.
Sounds awesome.
@@JohnBattistini00 It would need a powerful brushless motor to work as im olde school nicad, nimh and brushed motors only guy. But yes 67t spur...............
@@cutterbacon Nice.
Dude, you stripped the spur gear before you even got it off the work bench😂😅
Didn't you hear the squeal when you tested it the first time? The mesh was strangle tight.
Yup, it was, guess I was just too excited to get it out there! Oh well, it will be better next time.
Still one of the reasons why I haven’t bought one because I cannot handle plastic gears! They must make a metal gear set for that? Until then the TTO2 is not in my future!
If you buy the high speed gear set, you can easily swap over to a metal spur because the high speed gear set allows for their to be any spur that has screw holes, maybe the tt02 is in your future!
it sounded like something was binding before you ran it outside. almost sounded like the mesh was to tight.
Yep, pretty much. Operator error.
METAL VS PLASTIC ADD BRUSHLESS POWER YES BEEN THEIR. I HAVE ONE COMING HOME SOON ALREADY BUILT AND PAINTED WITH 13.5 TURN BRUSHLESS SYSTEM STOCK ESC BENCH TEST BUT NEVER BEEN DRIVEN I WILL LEARNING TOO.I'LL BE WATCHING YES SUB TO YOUR CHANNEL GREAT VID GOD BLESS BROTHER AL YAKIMA,WA. I LOVE THIS HOBBY WIFE??!!
Sounds great. Glad you are excited and having fun!
@@JohnBattistini00 JUST GOT THE GEAR SET RUNNING 64/26 13.5 TURN MOTOR 5200mAh 50C HAVE NO MPH. TESTER BUT FASTER THAN 25 TO 30. TURNS ON A DIME. I ALSO RUN GASERS 26. TO 45CC 1/5 SCALE LOVE THIS HOBBY GOD BLESS BROTHER AND FAMILY AL YAKIMA,WA
@@alanflatau1685 AWESOME!
The gear mesh sounded way to tight on the bench test. Also, Did you change the pinion gear or using the 1 with the kit? Tamiya uses that wierd gear pitch. I did a high speed conversion on this same car, I got the 48p spur and changed from the tamiya pinion to an aftermarket 48p pinion. I'm running a hobbywing justock 13.5 system in mine, with a metal driveshaft and a ball bearing kit. I have had absolutely no issues with my drivetrain so far. I've a bunch more upgrades, mostly for suspension and steering but the drivetrain seems pretty solid in these.
Yeah it was def too tight. Working on rebuilding it. Thanks for the tips, I will look into that.
I'm running the same Justock system in mine. What top speed are you getting out of it? Trying to find a comparison out there.
@@Canadian_Spartan I haven't put my performance analyzer in it to get an exact speed. I can do that tomorrow after work and give u some solid numbers. I'll also include my battery specs.
@@SubZ3ro907 that's awesome! Thank you.
@johnpapageorgiou8058 so John, I said heck with it and I just went out and did a run for you to see what we could get. On a cheap Gens Ace 5200mah 35C 2S pack, I just ran 25mph. I am using the high speed gearing and went up 3 teeth (i think) on the pinion. My car isn't built for speed runs. It's setup for medium size rally tracks. It runs very cool and could easily handle a few more teeth on the pinion. I also run a lexan dust cover that restricts airflow, so I have to be careful about overgearing it as it will overheat. You should be able to hit 33mph easily and safely with your 13.5 setup. Hope this helps. I will try and get a video up on my channel soon, showing my rally setup and the analyzer data.
What a bummer with the spurgear... I have an buggy running with a plastic spurgear. Around 65kmh. It has no cover at all and IAM waiting for it to get stripped... But it holds on.
Nice! Hopefully when I fix it up I will be good with no future issues, we'll see.
Hey John did you post a video with the new gearing? What did you wind up using? What T count did you use for the spur?
Still working on that one. I couldn't help myself so more blue parts are going on as well as the new new spur.
Have you seen the new td-4 super Avante and do you think you'd be interested in getting one?
I have seen it. Looks like a good platform but the body style is just not really my thing. Are you gonna get one? What I really want to build is a Frog.
@@JohnBattistini00 if I had the money for it I would get it but I'd also get all the other avantes but I probably going to end up building the frog one day before I end up building that one I'd like a frog too.
@@bradkalman2353 cool!
Hello, is anybody suggest about tamiya tt 02 lock diff is better or no and which spur pinion combination is best for rally? Thanks friends
You can check out my build video and see what I used.
Been running mine brushless with stock diffs and high speed gear and soo far its fine. What diffs are you running in that?
I got the Tamiya oil filled ones. They seem to be holding up great.
I'm your 420th like 👍
NICE!!! And thank you for the support.
So im thinking on swapping the brushed motor on my tt02 clone to brushless, will it make it faster? I was planning to use 9.6v nimh battery, would this work?
I honestly don’t know. Most people use a lipo battery to power a brushless motor. I have never tried to run anything but a lipo on my brushless motors.
Did the pinion just slip and trash the spur?
No I tightened it too much, it didn't "slip" so much as assembly error.
Can we get a post-mortem report!?
Yup new video is in the works.
Can the Tamiya stock ESC and motor handle a 2s 5000mah battery. Thanks
I honestly do not know. Check the instructions, but I thought there was some disclaimer that the stock ESC should not be used with Lipo, but I could be wrong.
I realise this thread is from years ago, but the Tamiya TBLE-02S ESC can run a 2S Lipo, but the low voltage cut off cannot be changed to suit a lipo so you have to monitor the voltage or fit a cheap Lipo low voltage alarm. I'm sure we all know already but Lipo's CANNOT handle being regularly discharged below 3.2V, so monitor carefully.
HELLO , How many pinion gear do you use in this video? 25T? I understand 64 spur and 400kv. Sorry,I am Japanese , not good at English .
I will have to look it up. It was the stock one supplied with the kit. It might be 19T. I will check.
Did he mention KV or did I miss it?
Its in the description, I may not have: EZRun MAX10 Sensorless Brushless ESC/3652SL Motor Combo (4000kV)
did u make that roll cage or buy it? thanks
I designed and 3D printed it myself.
what spur gear did you end up getting??
I will have to look, its sitting on the work bench still being assembled.
Results may vary, but when I installed the high speed set in mine, it screamed! Not in a good way. It was loud, like yours. That is never good with gears. I changed pinions and tried different gear mesh settings. Didn't help. I finally grabbed a Robinson 48 pitch spur out of my spares and a losi pinion. Quiet as a mouse now. Maybe that is what happened to yours?
Oh maybe. 48 huh? Maybe changing it up will help. Thanks for the tip will have to see what I can swap in.
Mine did the same. Turned out it was my fault. I was using a 48p pinion with the .6 mod tamiya spur. Wrong gear pitch on my pinion.
It's 100% your mesh, your not setting it correctly.. I run 80 plus mph in my Drag cars and on road cars with 48 P plastic spurs and aluminum pinions, when installed with the correct mesh and amount of play you can go 150mph plus it doesn't make a difference ,it has nothing to do with the plastic spur. installing metal spur gears only creates more potential disaster further down the line.. 👍🏁💯
@@ConditionZero76 Not true. I spent years racing dirt oval with 64 pitch gears and never had a problem. Just because you go 80 plus or 150 mph does not mean certain gears when put together, make noise. Why do you think gears on fullsize cars are cut different for forward and reverse? To cut down on gear whine. Ever heard an old honda civic back up at 10 mph?
2:08 what is 17 mls/h in km/h?
Thanks!
I don't know. But I would guess not terribly fast, LOL!
I got mine to 113mph on a tt01e and a that same tt02 with that same wrx body I got 70mph out of a traxxas vxl 3s system
WOW!
what shock you use?
They are from Yeah Racing. I have them on a few cars and they work great. Here's a link: www.rcmart.com/yeah-racing-shock-gear-50mm-damper-set-for-1-10-rc-touring-m-chassis-car-blue-dsg-0050bu-00036295
@@JohnBattistini00 how you make a high ground clearence dude? I need more ground clearence for tt02
@@alfathinandasukmana424 There are instructions in the manual for how to set it up with the high ground clearance. I just followed those. Check out my build video if you want to see how it did it. I think those steps are in part 2, but I am not sure. ruclips.net/video/5HsvE_xyVLk/видео.html
@@JohnBattistini00 ok thanks mate. Maybe you used yr shock and effect to your ground clearence. I wanted to change my shock, but im confused to change between 60mm and 70mm
What interior is that?
It's the Rally Cockpit set from Tamiya. I 3D printed the roll cage, so that doesn't come with it, but I did a whole review video on it previously on the channel if you want more info.
@@JohnBattistini00 thanks! I am building a tt02r rally car and want an interior. I am using the nurburgring sti but changing the color and decals
That sounds awesome, what color are you doing? And what stickers?
@@JohnBattistini00 i am going to try to do a custom graphic layout. The body will be gray and the decals will be a combination of highlighter yellow, white, black and a lighter gray
@@brandondecker1881 oh wow. Let me know how it turns out.
As soon as you ran it That pinion and spur mesh sounds way too tight.
Sounded like the gear mesh was too tight
Yup, it sure was!!!
Also,ur pinion and spur was too tight together,it suppose to have a bit play,thats y it sounded loud.
Yup. That is the general consensus. Got some new parts in and working on the fix. Should have a video update soon!
Rookie mistake, it gets better....
All us old school rc fans could all hear that the gear mesh was waaaayyyyy to tight on the bench , that bl system should have done around 30mph ,
It sucks when something fails but this was pure user error
We live and learn .
😘
Yup, I should have known better. But in my excitement to get it on the road I didn't pay as close attention as I usually do to the mesh. Oh well.
Just like a real subaru. Soon as you upgrade the engine, the gearbox shits itself.
If the original diffs gears are still on it, going brushless is not a good idea. Much less with that motor
Very true. That’s why when I built it I put in upgraded Tamiya diffs with plans to do the future brushless conversion. There are a few videos on the build on the channel. You should check it out and let me know what you think.
Order metal ones
Spur was too tight. You could tell by the drag brake it was getting.
Yup.
Good grief a tamiya brushless?!?!?!?!?!??! It's like putting a jet engine on a honds civid all hell with break loose
And you destroy your spur gear. LOL!