@@kbanghart its really cool. ben is like "digging my own grave am ded" and MIB is like "dude i went down to the other beach and you weren't there lol".
Well he didnt exactly say no, Illana gave him a second chance so he didnt have to go to Locke and his motives behind joining him at the barracks are unclear as he is tempted by the idea of being in charge of the island though he also seems to have been trying to help the others escape. Thats what makes his character so great, his motives arent always clear.
Josh Wheeler fair point however Ben reveals to Illana the only reason he’s going to Locke is because “he’s the only one who will have him”. So in essence he doesn’t believe Locke when he offers him power - he just knows he’s the only one who won’t kill him (at the moment). So he isn’t doing it for the promise that Locke is offering (as he did to so many others) but purely because he had no real option.
spoiler alert: .. .. .. .. .. Imagine ben's surprise/ stunning when FLocke (Fake Locke) actually tells him that Desmond (having escaped the well) will help him... ... .. destroy the island (6x11 i think) and then follows thru in the series finale. I think ben knew that he was being lied to but in this convo, not EVERY word of Flocke's is a lie.
I think most people figured it out already, but the reason "Locke" could break Ben free was because of electromagnetism, he can move metallic objects, for those who didn't get that.
@M4ttM3224 I never looked at his alliance in "What they Died For" as anything more than Ben ensuring his survival... Emerson said in an interview that Ben was counting the seconds till his inevitable death until MiB offered him a way out, and , naturally, the master liar was able to keep himself afloat a little longer.
@M4ttM3224 Well yeah, but Ben knew it was either "join" him or die, so he chose to follow him, but as we saw in the Finale he wasn't really with him, just preserving his own existence.
I think if they actually trusted MIB they wouldnt have died. they decided not to trust him and they all ended up dying on the island in the end. i dont think he was a bad guy at all...all he ever wanted was to leave the island and Jacob killed him for it.
MiB wanted to kill them. They were Candites, as long as they lived, he would not be able to leave the Island. Jacob killed him not because he wanted to leave the Island, but because he killed "Mother".
ben should have went with locke. if it wasnt for locke he wouldnt have been freed, and would have got shot. then again if it wasnt for locke he wouldnt be in that situation. or i guess miles is to blame
i disagree, i agree with ben 100% for killing jacob. if this was real and i was on the island, i would join locke definitely. except the whole getting of the island thing, i would like to live there, haha. i think it was the episode follow the leader, where locke described to ben why he should kill him, i loved his logic
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“What are you doing?”
“I’m digging my own grave!”
“Why?”
I’m bored and I thought it would pass the time, what do you think?!
Lol I love this interaction
@@kbanghart its really cool. ben is like "digging my own grave am ded" and MIB is like "dude i went down to the other beach and you weren't there lol".
Ben sassin Smokey who Ben has personally seen kill dozens of people like they're ants under his boots.
I find it funny that Illana doesn't hear the Smoke Monster...
I think she heard but she wasn't intimidated.
@@shanereid5292 Maybe she was too angry at Ben that she didn't care about MiB lel
“What are you doing?”
“I’m digging my own grave!”
Honestly one of the best literal jokes on TV
Hahaha 😅
The force is strong in MiB.
I find it wonderfully ironic that, of all the main characters that Locke tried to recruit with lies, Ben was the only one to say no.
Well he didnt exactly say no, Illana gave him a second chance so he didnt have to go to Locke and his motives behind joining him at the barracks are unclear as he is tempted by the idea of being in charge of the island though he also seems to have been trying to help the others escape. Thats what makes his character so great, his motives arent always clear.
Josh Wheeler fair point however Ben reveals to Illana the only reason he’s going to Locke is because “he’s the only one who will have him”. So in essence he doesn’t believe Locke when he offers him power - he just knows he’s the only one who won’t kill him (at the moment). So he isn’t doing it for the promise that Locke is offering (as he did to so many others) but purely because he had no real option.
Its not john though its the man in black
@@DuncBax DON'T TELL THE MAN IN BLACK WHO HE CAN'T BE.
spoiler alert:
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Imagine ben's surprise/ stunning when FLocke (Fake Locke) actually tells him that Desmond (having escaped the well) will help him...
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destroy the island (6x11 i think) and then follows thru in the series finale.
I think ben knew that he was being lied to but in this convo, not EVERY word of Flocke's is a lie.
He's got a little bit of Magneto in him.
or the force (?
Which means you can beat him with a wooden gun.
I think most people figured it out already, but the reason "Locke" could break Ben free was because of electromagnetism, he can move metallic objects, for those who didn't get that.
I figured it was because he was a supernatural creature an all...
Thanks man. That explains how MIB was able to throw things around in the cabin
A Jedi Knight
Lockneto
@ThePartisan13 it's because he is a supernatural entity
Or better yet, he is channeling the island.
"Locke's" facial expressions to what Ben is telling him are too funny :D
I think he wanted Ben to shoot Ilana with the purpose of knowing if Ben would have been by his side, and also to corrupt him more...
When I think of Lost, I think of that eerie, scary, haunting violin music.
you're an awewome actor and keep up the great work able to transmute you in my meditation
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Lockeness monster
I see what you did there
I really would like to know the extent of his power, and Jacobs for that matter.
The Men in Black tried to recruit Ben?I've just had the best idea...
Makes me want to rewatch Lost.
I loved season 6 so much.
It was pure garbage
@@brianlaudrupchannel please distinguish between garbage and pure garbage
i think they should have explored the lore of smoke monster and candidates more in s6 but apart from that
@@Johnnymushio I love that you came back and replied 11 years later 😂
@@TheJayTex I'm awaiting his reply in 2033
Ben: why don't you just escort me to the other island right now?
MiB: Nah
@M4ttM3224 I never looked at his alliance in "What they Died For" as anything more than Ben ensuring his survival... Emerson said in an interview that Ben was counting the seconds till his inevitable death until MiB offered him a way out, and , naturally, the master liar was able to keep himself afloat a little longer.
Fuuuuck I love this show.
Legendary.
just completed POI and I want more of michel emerson. Looks like to re watch lost.
1:22 MIB has the Force!
1:22
@M4ttM3224 Remember though, Smokey can influence people's behavior when he speaks to them, someone like Ben can be easily corrupted.
Actually Ben was the only one MiB didn't manage to trick, because Ben is extremely cunning.
I hate it to admit to myself but I'd be so gullible that I'd go with him. He was a master manipulator.
If this show was still on jack would be smokey and hurley would be jacob
zaandarbrow why
Now that would be interesting telly on paper at least.
@M4ttM3224 Well yeah, but Ben knew it was either "join" him or die, so he chose to follow him, but as we saw in the Finale he wasn't really with him, just preserving his own existence.
Sounds like Smoke Monster isn't exactly a stealth form of transportation.
The intimidatlor though
@@Buttington_Headerson christ 9 years later. did i actually watch all 6 seasons of this show? why yes, yes i did.
so if MIB was able to open that thing...it means that he could done it LOTS OF TIMES...telekinesis!
Remember Jacob's hut. There was clearly MiB
Am I the only one who thought "JEDI LOCKE" at 1:21?
14 years later, but still: Why not Sith Locke?
Haha, Visiting, what you doing ?
name of the soundtrack at 1:27?
thats a good question.
I think if they actually trusted MIB they wouldnt have died.
they decided not to trust him and they all ended up dying on the island in the end.
i dont think he was a bad guy at all...all he ever wanted was to leave the island and Jacob killed him for it.
MiB wanted to kill them. They were Candites, as long as they lived, he would not be able to leave the Island. Jacob killed him not because he wanted to leave the Island, but because he killed "Mother".
He deliberately lost their trust so they would shut him out of the sub.
ben should have went with locke. if it wasnt for locke he wouldnt have been freed, and would have got shot. then again if it wasnt for locke he wouldnt be in that situation. or i guess miles is to blame
Digging Yourself into Debt. Or watching others do it instead. ?
Is it me,or did they make the blood stain under Ben's nose to make him look like Hitler?
i disagree, i agree with ben 100% for killing jacob. if this was real and i was on the island, i would join locke definitely. except the whole getting of the island thing, i would like to live there, haha. i think it was the episode follow the leader, where locke described to ben why he should kill him, i loved his logic
@1080portal haha
Or.. you could just turn into a smoke monster and kill her?
Such ridiculous plot points in the later seasons
Nah, he likes getting people to do things themselves. Get them to turn on each other with a little push.
It's about corrupting Ben even further.
Jacob probably touched her.