This show is fricken AWESOME, By far the BEST written, BEST acted, BEST story, BEST narrative, BEST production, BEST soundtrack, BEST cinematography, BEST EVERYTHING.
“You’re not John Locke...... you disrespect his memory by wearing his face but you’re nothing like him. Turns out he was right about most everything” Pretty crazy that Jack goes from not believing in destiny all the way to that in The End
Well, little did Locke know that the Smoke Monster did want him dead no matter what in the end, and that they hadn't been selected by the Island but by some cryptic asshole.
@@Turambar1337 basically the quote above. Short scene where the Man in Black and Jack are talking while lowering Desmond into the hole. For some reason a lot of streaming services cut several scenes out but luckily Hulu has an uncut version of the finale as well
It's awesome how they paralleled this in the end with Jack being the one talking about faith and destiny and the man wearing locke's face was denying it. I always imagined the end as the opposite: Locke saving the island, his destiny was to die so that Jack could do it.
Most people who don't have eyes to see can't grasp just how special Lost was. It encapsulated so many of the mysteries , linked to so many occulted things from humanity to technology it's crazy. For those who have eyes to see it's a goldmine of allegory and I think it should be regarded as one of the best things to ever be put out there on the black mirrors.
They didn't. That line is vague enough to fill it in with anything. Halfway through the series they were on a real interesting path and then kinda screwed it up in season 6.
@@JJSMJ It's pretty obvious that Locke is simply a crank who's filled the hole in his life with his spiritual interpretation of the Island after it healed him Even in the end the reason is "Jacob brought them because he thinks he needs someone to take over his 'job' and these guys happened to be big enough losers he felt he could kidnap them with a clean conscious"
How can Locke be so smart.. I mean everything he says is true. It is even more confusing when you think that he died so confused and in the thought that he failed. I love John Locke...
Yeh you know i think it really intresting moment of this movie.The russian literature has ones story(sorrow cause of mind).And i think it about John Locke,he too difficult,strange man with a lot of complexes.He could not fashionate his own life due to regular depressions and in consequence wrong action but if talk about his vision of global lifes processes,his philosophical talent he was on another level. And the most important i think that this man had the worst and miserable life before planecrush among all others on the island.And cause of it he could feel and see what the other could not or did not want.
That scene was so fucked,I think it was good writing and a genuine shock but I dont know,but them not resurrecting him and making us all believe they would was just devastating.
When people complain about Lost and specifically about how the ending "sucked", it's clear they never got the show at all: If by the end you're disappointed the show never explained how the (foot of the) statue got on the island, you completely missed the point. Lost has always been about the characters. All the mysteries are just the backdrop against which these characters develop. At its core, it's more a character driven drama than anything else.
It's amazing watching this scene knowing the outcome in the later seasons finding out that Locke was right all along. They were all brought there for a reason and the reveal of that reason was huge! Bigger than all of them.
"Survival is all relative, Jack." wow I've watched this scene many times but only now am I picking up how impactful that line is coming from John. I don't know if the writers had planned his character that far but knowing Locke's end that line is, just, wow. He may not have "survived" to the end but he lived on through Jack and his memory would live on in Hugo. He followed destiny, finally on the island he was no longer just "surviving."
I really really wish Locke woulda just told Jack here I was literally crippled before the crash,and afterwards I could walk and that heexperienced a real miracle,sure its very unlikely Jack would believe him anyways but at least hed get a mindset/understanding into Lockes decision making/process ya know,instead he expects jack a smart but dumb atheists to have faith without even some explanation.
Its amazing that Locke was right and it took Jack 5 seasons until he was the man of faith and that he had a destiny on the island. Wish Locke was more important in the end though, always thought it would be Locke saving the island but his destiny was to convince Jack to do it.
Perfect foreshadowing scene. Jack and Locke always had great chemistry...even when in conflict. Locke, Jack, Ben, Sayid, Desmond and Hurley where my fave characters. Didn't care for Sawyer, Charlie or Micheal(although even they had some good moments). Didn't care that much for the females strangely enough(considering I am one lol). They were just written badly imo. Juliet and Sun(even though I had a few issues with what happened with Jin in flashbacks) I liked okay. Clair could get on your nerves a bit. Kate I just didn't like at all much.
People can say what they want about the ending - and that's a subjective thing, but it's a brilliantly written programme from start to finish, and I certainly recommend the experience.
Locke died outside the island, despite never wanting to walk away from it, with all his beliefs gone and thinking none of it mattered; and Jack died inside the island, despite always wanting to escape form it, knowing that everything happened for a reason. What a great twist for them both. Locke needed to sacrifice himself to make Jack see.
I do agree that this was one of the greatest scenes in the show cause later on we all find out that locke was right the whole time. I really loved this show, I can't believe its over
I would really have loved to have seen how locke would view that island if he crashed there and saw its supernatural significance before he was paralysed.
I love how Jack was painted to be a near perfect character until Locke started with his lunacy and destiny stuff. It bothered Jack so much and forced him to question his beliefs and make poor decisions a lot of the time just to prove Locke wrong. Loved the dynamic between these 2
It’s pretty much impossible for two people to ever relate or change their worldview when they are this far apart on the spectrum of science/logic vs faith/destiny. One has spent his entire adult life in the most science-based and evidence-based and technical field in the world. The other had paralyzed legs for years and is now walking around. And the only available explanation for his recovery is that he was in a plane crash. And this difference in beliefs is a slam dunk for writing really interesting conflicts, like this scene. How can you choose to not agree with a science genius doctor? But how can you choose to not agree with a paralyzed guy who now has working legs.
I remember everyone saying that after season 2 or 3, the creators started making shit up. This scene basically proves that to be wrong - not ALL of it (like the whole Michael/Walt storyline, the pregnant women storyline) but it proves the main storyline itself was planned and in the making since the beginning.
I wish John told Jack he was in a wheelchair ♿️…but can now walk. I think if he shared his story more people would believe in him that the island is special.
@177166t By getting touched they were destined to come to the island. Desmond crashing their plane was chain reaction set forth by Jacob or the island to bring those people to the island. They were all pushed towards Flight 815 by the island.
@177166t No it was The Island, or if you'd prefer, The Source/Heart of The Island that brought them there. It brought Smother there too, then Claudia, who carried Jacob and young Smokie. It was The Island and its power. Jacob wanted to bring them but it was up to The Island. At least that's what I believe :)......
@WilhelmRyan815 the walt and pregnant storyline is very important in the final season. Not directly, but there significance and what they represet are. Why women die while pregnant is directly related to the source. And to be special like Walt means you are the natural candidate for protector. MiB was also "special" like Walt. Thats why Mother wanted Mib to be protector. I can go into more detail, but thats the basic in how everything in lost connects.
and the funny thing Locke was right when Jack does believe in Destiny cause he said it himself later on when he wanted to blow the island to change the paste
-_- I watched this show for like 4 seasons when I was a kid and I got sick of the little twists and cliffhangers at the end of every single episode. I felt like my brain was gonna explode. Lost was a perfect show for making money, it kept you glued to the couch for the entire episode and through the commercials until the next scene where something crazy would happen that would have you coming back to that same spot on the couch next week.. I just got tired of it, id still like to know what it is
@177166t Well yeah, but do you think without The Island the plane would've crashed BEFORE the hatch imploding into itself. I'm no expert, but when there is a bunch of electromagnetism going crazy what would be destroyed first? The hatch right on top of the pocket of electromagnetism, or the plane 25,000 - 30,000 feet in the air?
Locke was right, the island brought them there. Jacob was just a puppet, the island was the true master pulling all the strings. It pulled those strings to protect itself..... thats what I believe.
Boone died to keep John from dying. John needed to keep nudging Jack along, John needed to make the Island disappear so that Jack would witness it and know that the impossible, the truly impossible happened. Boone's death made the rest of it possible. And Charlie died so that Desmond would live. Desmond needed to be the failsafe.
Locke was the goat. This show dropped the ball on a lot of things. I don’t hate the ending but the studio forced the writers to drag the show out instead of having a concise narrative. This show opens so strong. Then in the middle it meanders and doesn’t match the same quality as the first act. It was carried by the great cast near the end.
There is no such thing as Destiny really. Its like Locke says right at the end of the show season 6 episode 16: Locke: "What if this is happening for a reason, what if you're supposed to fix me" Jack: "Mr Locke I want to fix you, but I think you're mistaking coincidence for fate" Locke: "You can call it whatever you want, but I think im ready to get out of this chair" Destiny, fate, island plans... its all the same thing, you can call it whatever you want
"Jack, I wish you had believed me"
...JL
Season 1 Locke was perhaps the greatest TV character of all time.
No, he had grown pretty bad during the series.
He was awesome during the first and most part of the second season, after that, he grew lamer and lamer.
ThisIsMadness you’re lame
Season 6 Locke was awesome aswell
Locke was best in season 1 then 3 then 2 then 5 then 6 and then 4
jack and john, the backbone of lost.
Think I'm going to have to watch this series for a 7th time.
michaelbarend did u
DG8802 I’m at season 3 at the moment
michaelbarend lucky that's my favourite season. I only finished the show for the first time last week. Have fun for that final scene of the S3 finale
DG8802 Thanks man
I need to restart it myself. Been too long!
Locke's destiny was to get Jack to believe.
omg :')
And he did :’)
This show is fricken AWESOME, By far the BEST written, BEST acted, BEST story, BEST narrative, BEST production, BEST soundtrack, BEST cinematography, BEST EVERYTHING.
Best location too
@@JohnPritzlaff Where that location is?
Think it's Hawaii @@Pedro94-dp
Hawaii @@Pedro94-dp
@@Pedro94-dp- An island
Jack: "I don't believe in destiny."
Locke: "Yes you do, you just don't know it yet."
In the end Jack became a believer. Amazing.
Jack: I don't believe in Destiny.
Locke: Yes you do. You just don't know yet.
awww, I love this scene.
kamieniec3 how right he was
“You’re not John Locke...... you disrespect his memory by wearing his face but you’re nothing like him. Turns out he was right about most everything” Pretty crazy that Jack goes from not believing in destiny all the way to that in The End
That’s one of my favorite quotes, I can’t believe they edited it out of the version on Hulu
Well, little did Locke know that the Smoke Monster did want him dead no matter what in the end, and that they hadn't been selected by the Island but by some cryptic asshole.
Why would they edit it out?
@@geraldrowan8960 what did they edit?
@@Turambar1337 basically the quote above. Short scene where the Man in Black and Jack are talking while lowering Desmond into the hole. For some reason a lot of streaming services cut several scenes out but luckily Hulu has an uncut version of the finale as well
It's awesome how they paralleled this in the end with Jack being the one talking about faith and destiny and the man wearing locke's face was denying it. I always imagined the end as the opposite: Locke saving the island, his destiny was to die so that Jack could do it.
This is the most important and interesting relationships through all their story.
Locke is attempting in this scene his very purpose for being brought to the island...to make Jack a believer.
Hey man replying after 10 years are you still alive
@@Abhishek-vm2sf lmao! yep, I'm still kicking.
@@Glennwulf omg lol do you remember commenting that
@@Abhishek-vm2sf I sure didn't until I saw a email about a reply. I read the comment and was like "damn that's deep....oh shit I wrote that!!!" lmao!
@@Glennwulf HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Most people who don't have eyes to see can't grasp just how special Lost was. It encapsulated so many of the mysteries , linked to so many occulted things from humanity to technology it's crazy. For those who have eyes to see it's a goldmine of allegory and I think it should be regarded as one of the best things to ever be put out there on the black mirrors.
One of the best quotes of Lost; "Survival is all relative Jack"
"Each one of us was brought here for a reason."
Don't tell me the producers didn't have a plan all along.
They didn't, and to the extent that they did it wasn't a very good one.
They didn't. That line is vague enough to fill it in with anything.
Halfway through the series they were on a real interesting path and then kinda screwed it up in season 6.
@@JJSMJ It's pretty obvious that Locke is simply a crank who's filled the hole in his life with his spiritual interpretation of the Island after it healed him
Even in the end the reason is "Jacob brought them because he thinks he needs someone to take over his 'job' and these guys happened to be big enough losers he felt he could kidnap them with a clean conscious"
@@Sam-gs2wq HAHA you really didn’t get it mate, I’m sorry,
@@Sam-gs2wq wow that is the worst interpretation of the show ever
John was definitely right about being brought there for a purpose!! Sadly, I don’t think we will ever see a show as great as this again.
How can Locke be so smart.. I mean everything he says is true. It is even more confusing when you think that he died so confused and in the thought that he failed. I love John Locke...
+hshshshshshshs That's how you reconize a such good work from showrunners.
Thanks
Yeh you know i think it really intresting moment of this movie.The russian literature has ones story(sorrow cause of mind).And i think it about John Locke,he too difficult,strange man with a lot of complexes.He could not fashionate his own life due to regular depressions and in consequence wrong action but if talk about his vision of global lifes processes,his philosophical talent he was on another level. And the most important i think that this man had the worst and miserable life before planecrush among all others on the island.And cause of it he could feel and see what the other could not or did not want.
Thank you
That scene was so fucked,I think it was good writing and a genuine shock but I dont know,but them not resurrecting him and making us all believe they would was just devastating.
I love their conversations
"Each *one* of us" - The emphasis he's puts on that is so good, you feel how much he believes in the island. The best character in the whole show.
Jack is the best character in the whole show.
Season 1 Locke > Jack's 6 seasons combined.
@@CDbiggen Jack --> Locke. Jack is the best one in each season. Jack 1 season is better than Locke 6 seasons combined.
@@jjs7473 , Jack is boring.
@@CDbiggen Locke is boring. Jack is cool and badass.
This character dynamic is better than anything on television
This show will never be forgotten in my mind. When im old, and i look back on what was my favorite show. i'd say this.
well it’s been 9 years since u commented this so lemme ask u now, is it still ur favorite show?
Welp, 10 years has gone by now. Is this still your favorite show?
@@Arrowdynamic92rumor has it Peppa Pig is his greatest show in history now
Ok I’m calling it, Ckapps has passed away. Rest in peace, I hope they’re watching Lost in heaven 👼
It never stopped being great.
In this particular case, Jack was right, Smokey wanted to do away with Locke just like it did away with Mr. Eko.
He wouldn't have killed Locke He would probably have done what he did to Ben, appear as someone he loves to manipulate him.
When people complain about Lost and specifically about how the ending "sucked", it's clear they never got the show at all:
If by the end you're disappointed the show never explained how the (foot of the) statue got on the island, you completely missed the point.
Lost has always been about the characters. All the mysteries are just the backdrop against which these characters develop. At its core, it's more a character driven drama than anything else.
In my opinion, after season 4 when Locke told Jack to lie about the island, i think that's when Jack started to turn to the man of faith.
it was easier for locke to understand, because the healed him in a physical way
i always think at Locke is a mentor for Jack
Well yeah he was.
Locke was kind of a mentor to everybody on the island.
It's amazing watching this scene knowing the outcome in the later seasons finding out that Locke was right all along. They were all brought there for a reason and the reveal of that reason was huge! Bigger than all of them.
One of the best scenes of the entire show...
"Survival is all relative, Jack." wow I've watched this scene many times but only now am I picking up how impactful that line is coming from John. I don't know if the writers had planned his character that far but knowing Locke's end that line is, just, wow. He may not have "survived" to the end but he lived on through Jack and his memory would live on in Hugo. He followed destiny, finally on the island he was no longer just "surviving."
It's amazing how much Locke was dead-on target right about in this scene.
Jack and John are both the Same at Heart ♥️
Do u think we crashed in this place by coincidence!?
the path ends at the hatch.
no John, that is where you are mistaken, the hatch is just the beginning
Locke really irritated me in this season but in a way he was right all along haha, this will forever be my favourite show
John is the most complex character in any book or show
I really really wish Locke woulda just told Jack here I was literally crippled before the crash,and afterwards I could walk and that heexperienced a real miracle,sure its very unlikely Jack would believe him anyways but at least hed get a mindset/understanding into Lockes decision making/process ya know,instead he expects jack a smart but dumb atheists to have faith without even some explanation.
i always had a problem with this piece of information being seemingly hidden to the rest of the survivors
Its amazing that Locke was right and it took Jack 5 seasons until he was the man of faith and that he had a destiny on the island. Wish Locke was more important in the end though, always thought it would be Locke saving the island but his destiny was to convince Jack to do it.
Last ten seconds, so true.
Perfect foreshadowing scene. Jack and Locke always had great chemistry...even when in conflict. Locke, Jack, Ben, Sayid, Desmond and Hurley where my fave characters. Didn't care for Sawyer, Charlie or Micheal(although even they had some good moments). Didn't care that much for the females strangely enough(considering I am one lol). They were just written badly imo. Juliet and Sun(even though I had a few issues with what happened with Jin in flashbacks) I liked okay. Clair could get on your nerves a bit. Kate I just didn't like at all much.
john looked right in the eyes of thing that would one day become him
Foreshadowing.
Best TV Series Ever.
Outstanding acting.
People can say what they want about the ending - and that's a subjective thing, but it's a brilliantly written programme from start to finish, and I certainly recommend the experience.
Locke died outside the island, despite never wanting to walk away from it, with all his beliefs gone and thinking none of it mattered; and Jack died inside the island, despite always wanting to escape form it, knowing that everything happened for a reason. What a great twist for them both. Locke needed to sacrifice himself to make Jack see.
1:30 Michael Giacchino's score has a Bernard Hermann kind of vibe to it. A lá "Pscyho."
Give it five seasons, Jack will come around.
Locke already knew on season 1. He was right. GOAT.
Best conversation in the show
John Locke is one of my favorite TV characters of all time.
This is just the greatest conversation in TV history.
The key and heart to the entire show right here:)
Season 1 jack: I don’t believe in destiny.
-yes you do, you just don’t know it yet.
Season 5 jack: this is our destiny.
Well played John.
Time shows everything.
funny how right & wrong they both were
This is . . . This is my destiny, I'm supposed to thumbs this video up damnit!!!
John was right all along. They were indeed brought on the island for a reason.
I do agree that this was one of the greatest scenes in the show cause later on we all find out that locke was right the whole time. I really loved this show, I can't believe its over
i love Locke but he wasnt right all the time, he was manipulated so many times by Ben, by coincidence and most important by the Black Smoke !
This is why im here.... this is what im supposed to do
This is an amazing scene
“I wish you had believed me”
John Locke is Speaking the Truth about the ISLAND it’s a Place of Wonder and Mystery
jack's face always looks so vexed 😂
I would really have loved to have seen how locke would view that island if he crashed there and saw its supernatural significance before he was paralysed.
I agree, Lost is as good as Network TV can be.
after watching the entire series, looking back at this scene really shows that John Locke was following faith blindly at @ 0:16.
The tragedy of the twists around John Locke was that I lost my favorite character and didn't even realize it!
Mr Lockes awesome
This was on abc primetime, a show like this will NEVER happen again, and that makes me sad
Facts
I love how Jack was painted to be a near perfect character until Locke started with his lunacy and destiny stuff. It bothered Jack so much and forced him to question his beliefs and make poor decisions a lot of the time just to prove Locke wrong. Loved the dynamic between these 2
We blow up we blow up ! :D
Nice
Hello, John.
@@tocraneandcrane hello
It’s pretty much impossible for two people to ever relate or change their worldview when they are this far apart on the spectrum of science/logic vs faith/destiny. One has spent his entire adult life in the most science-based and evidence-based and technical field in the world.
The other had paralyzed legs for years and is now walking around. And the only available explanation for his recovery is that he was in a plane crash.
And this difference in beliefs is a slam dunk for writing really interesting conflicts, like this scene.
How can you choose to not agree with a science genius doctor?
But how can you choose to not agree with a paralyzed guy who now has working legs.
I remember everyone saying that after season 2 or 3, the creators started making shit up. This scene basically proves that to be wrong - not ALL of it (like the whole Michael/Walt storyline, the pregnant women storyline) but it proves the main storyline itself was planned and in the making since the beginning.
I wish John told Jack he was in a wheelchair ♿️…but can now walk. I think if he shared his story more people would believe in him that the island is special.
These people walked out of a plane crash and immediately their torch game was on point
Locke knew everything, he just didn’t realize it. He himself ended up being a sacrifice that the island demanded.
@177166t By getting touched they were destined to come to the island. Desmond crashing their plane was chain reaction set forth by Jacob or the island to bring those people to the island. They were all pushed towards Flight 815 by the island.
@177166t No it was The Island, or if you'd prefer, The Source/Heart of The Island that brought them there. It brought Smother there too, then Claudia, who carried Jacob and young Smokie. It was The Island and its power. Jacob wanted to bring them but it was up to The Island.
At least that's what I believe :)......
Wonder how it would have panned out if Locke was taken down the hole and MIB became Locke this early.
@WilhelmRyan815 the walt and pregnant storyline is very important in the final season. Not directly, but there significance and what they represet are.
Why women die while pregnant is directly related to the source.
And to be special like Walt means you are the natural candidate for protector. MiB was also "special" like Walt. Thats why Mother wanted Mib to be protector.
I can go into more detail, but thats the basic in how everything in lost connects.
and the funny thing Locke was right when Jack does believe in Destiny cause he said it himself later on when he wanted to blow the island to change the paste
-_- I watched this show for like 4 seasons when I was a kid and I got sick of the little twists and cliffhangers at the end of every single episode. I felt like my brain was gonna explode. Lost was a perfect show for making money, it kept you glued to the couch for the entire episode and through the commercials until the next scene where something crazy would happen that would have you coming back to that same spot on the couch next week.. I just got tired of it, id still like to know what it is
👏👏
Question with spoilers!!!!
Isn’t John a candidate?
Meaning the black smoke wouldn’t be able to harm him?
Or did that rule only start after Jacob died?
@177166t Well yeah, but do you think without The Island the plane would've crashed BEFORE the hatch imploding into itself. I'm no expert, but when there is a bunch of electromagnetism going crazy what would be destroyed first? The hatch right on top of the pocket of electromagnetism, or the plane 25,000 - 30,000 feet in the air?
0:07 pandemic times...
Lost should be taught at schools!
Why did John never tell Jack he was in a wheelchair? Did he think he wouldn’t believe him?
we brought to this island for porpoise for reason it's destiny John locke
Locke was right, the island brought them there. Jacob was just a puppet, the island was the true master pulling all the strings. It pulled those strings to protect itself..... thats what I believe.
No it's pretty explicitly jacob that brought them there. Like, straight from the showrunners mouths.
Aww the good old days when Lost used to be great
Locke was a smarter character on Lost until Benjamin’s manipulations.
Just like boone was a sacrifice. Locke was a sacrifice to get Jack to believe and ultimately jack died to save the world
Boone died to keep John from dying. John needed to keep nudging Jack along, John needed to make the Island disappear so that Jack would witness it and know that the impossible, the truly impossible happened. Boone's death made the rest of it possible. And Charlie died so that Desmond would live. Desmond needed to be the failsafe.
Dark shirt locke is bad. Its why the smoke monster had him by his dead legs trying to drag him down that hole
Locke was the goat. This show dropped the ball on a lot of things. I don’t hate the ending but the studio forced the writers to drag the show out instead of having a concise narrative.
This show opens so strong. Then in the middle it meanders and doesn’t match the same quality as the first act. It was carried by the great cast near the end.
There is no such thing as Destiny really.
Its like Locke says right at the end of the show season 6 episode 16:
Locke: "What if this is happening for a reason, what if you're supposed to fix me"
Jack: "Mr Locke I want to fix you, but I think you're mistaking coincidence for fate"
Locke: "You can call it whatever you want, but I think im ready to get out of this chair"
Destiny, fate, island plans... its all the same thing, you can call it whatever you want
@Phil11andFrank13 Smokie couldn't have killed him, I think he was trying to get them to blow each other up.
Watch the show and find out.
This could have happened twice.
Television peaked at Lost for me