That'd be awesome as fuck! Imagine Kars mocking DIO, being all like "What do you have that I don't?"and then *ZA WARUDO!* Jotaro would be in it too, maybe he'd kill Whamu.
If the Pillar Men won, then the only one that could save the world would be the ambulance that killed Kira, or whatever the equivalent of an ambulance was back then.
Actually Lisa Lisa could absolutely have had a fighting chance. It says in the manga that her Hamon is 3 times as powerful as Joseph's. Kars cheated because fighting Lisa Lisa would have meant certain death for him. She would probably have lost against all three at once though.
Araki also had A LOT of potential for Lisa Lisa but due to the pressure from the editors, she was made to appear more weak. Even in her fighting mode. Otherwise, I think Lisa Lisa could smack Kars right off the face of the earth, let alone Wham and Esidisi. (apart though)
@@brunobrx3599 NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO MORE EGG NO MORE JOUTA AND NO MORE CHARMY GREEN
noone wants to think about this, but kars being ultimate would be able to turn himself into a pillar woman and revive his clan. that would be their plan for sure.
@@littlelilax1173 pillarmen, to be realistic. It'd take a strong stand user of at least Joseph's caliber to beat Ultimate Kars. . Some of Dio's minions actually could do it, especially since stands apparently aren't a natural part of evolution on earth, so an ultimate pillarman couldn't just acquire one
@@InfernosReaper mmm but three-pillarmen also take note they we're all defeated with luck and tricks I don't see any of them creative as Joseph And another one- it took an active volcano activated by hamon from the stone to launch kars- I don't see any of his minions can take off three demi gods or ultimate being Ps: if you still "stand" for your opinion of stands winning against them, It's much better to bet on Requiem stands against them ig
Depending on when youd have jotaro or giorno just obliterate them. Considering the pillar men are near or in Italy im sure youd have Jotaro obtaining a requiem that could undo their transformation and then ora ora ora if this is before Part 5. Post part 5 Giorno takes care of business with GER easily
I think they might even go to seek Santana and find him being turned into stone. Whilest it's obvious to the three that Santana was defeated too, they would still see him as a prawn yet awaken him. I think Kars is actually a bit scared of Santana since Santana can actually stand the sun! Sure he's not the brightest, but Kars refused to step to such a low level in order to conquer the sun without all of his glory.
I'm starting to see a trend.. Guys, Dio Vs. The Pillar Men won't matter if Dio cant acquire a stand. EVEN THEN, Dio with The World isn't touching 3 Pillar Men. Especially if one of them is Ultimate Kars.
No arrows = No Ice Plus I'm pretty sure vanilla ice is in his 20's. Meaning that the Pillar men had probably already taken over the earth 15 years before he was born.
One Subject I found interesting with this scenario: One of Kars philosophies is that "the end justifies the means" and "only one can stand at the top". Maybe Kars would even betray the other two Pillarmen to be the only perfect being?
Since DIO could use Hermit purple and Araki stated that HAMON in stand form would be hermit purple... Doesn't that mean DIO can use HP but couldn't use it on his own body because it'll kill him?
That still doesn't explain why he can't use his "Space Ripper Stingy Eyes." I just imagine Dio just sitting there spitballing names for his powers and that was the best he could come up with.
4:02 great now im imagining Kars flat on his back stretching his arms and legs out towards the sky while saying "Photosynthesis.....photosynthesis" like SpongeBob did lol
@@solokiwidestroyer Kars could make a squirrel out of his hand He could literally just spit at the ground and then make it turn into another pillar man/woman
I mean, if Kars wanted to start a resurgence of Pillarmen, he could. See, the thing about having complete control of your physiology is that you don't have to stay the same sex. In fact, you don't even need two people of opposite ones to have kids. He could just asexually reproduce if he wanted to. Plenty of critters have that "power" and he has the power of all the critters, right? So I think he'd just recreate the Pillarmen race in their new perfected form and they'd... probably just ignore humanity, really. They'd just do whatever they wanted. No one could stop them, after all, and why go through the trouble of killing ants that aren't being a nuisance? Some ants will inevitably get squished underfoot but that's what happens to ants.
Imagine a fight between the Pillar men and a resistance group of a stand users that consist of the member of Dio's minion, Duwang gang + Kira, Passione and several prisoners from Green dolphin prison led by Dio and the only surviving Joestar in this scenario: Giorno
Dio would provably join forces with them to rule the world, considering hes probably near the same power level as Santana, especially if he got The World
A fight between a young Enyaba and the pillar men could be interesting, she'd just need a way to puncture their skin, which as i say it actually seems impossible
I don't think it'd be any harder than it was before to puncture their skin than before, it would just be less of a major wound for them (not that it would be anyway). With Enyaba, even the tiniest scratch would do. Assuming she had a Stand as a young woman (I honestly don't remember if she did or if it was from the arrow) she could beat the Pillar Men if she lured them into her foggy town, set off some nail bombs and caught them all in it and then possessed them with her Stand. I'm going to assume that none of the Pillar Men can suck up her Stand like Star Platinum can, considering that no living being could do that anyway. She'd need a lot of luck on her side, but she could do it.
Better Question, what if Straizo failed to prevent Santana from reviving after leaving the temple, and Santana donned a Stone Mask and thus gained a mode, thereby increasing his fighting ability? Can totally imagine Santana raising a vampire army in Mexico to get revenge against his kin in Europe.
Yeah, like maybe a vampire without the sun weakness? On the other hand, it was said that the only reason the pillar men needed Aja was because otherwise the mask couldn't reach their brains... so, maybe a human putting on the Aja mask would just destroy the brain because the spikes got stronger.
That would not change anything The only thing that the mask do is reching the brain with somespikes to unlock hidden potential. In the sale way, a pillar man with a stone mask would not make him stonger
Death. Since the Stone Mask can only partially pierce the Pillar Men's brain, while it can pierce a human's with ease. A Aja Stone Mask will demolish a human's brain.
question is would Kars be that obvlivious to not know stands before fighting Kira? they have 400IQ and they learn things easily. unless, you know, Kars gets out of pillar and faces Kira first
kars would explore his body much like me in my teenage years wammu finding people to fight much like my teen years AC-DC doing what ever again much like my teen years
dont think its factored in because Dios just a vampire and regular kars would smash his shit in. And also ultimate kars can use hamon thats comparable to the sun.
At the end you forgot DIO. Humanity's true savior is DIO-sama. What? What do you mean heaven didn't come? Why would anyone want stop it? WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE FCKING JOESTARS??!!
If the Pillar Men won, World War 2 would be the Humans vs the Pillar men instead of the Axis vs Allies. You need to remember battle tendency took place right before World War 2 began.
@@shrekonion8307 he would have hermit purple but stronger because its the representation of hamon and his hamon was stronger than josephs at his old age. (For facts there is the word of god and toppeti being able to read zeppelis future like dio for pollnaref, he did read his emotions but its very similar)
Scazoid actually, according to araki, lisa lisa is 3x time stronger than joseph and ceasar, and that kar have to cheat because fighting her would mean certain death for him. This is from araki himself
Well, Holly and therefore Jotaro wouldn't have been born, DIO would come back after another 50 years, possibly still get the stand arrow from Enya and give the Pillar Men Stands. Then DIO would probably either team up with the pillar men, or try to get them to follow him. And then they all take over the universe.
when u realize that joseph was ineffective against kars bc kars was immune to joseph's tricks bc kars is so level-headed and calculated bc of his personality, but once he becomes the ultimate being, he lets his guard down from being so cocky that he lets joseph defeat him. also, it was said that the red stone would be what would destroy the pillar men (which it caused the volcano to erupt), but it is bc of kars's use of the red stone that he left himself open and defenseless against joseph's cunning tricks.
If the pillar men won, I can imagine humanity doing it's best to survive while the pillar men hunt them down, and eventually one of them (the part's jojo) finds the arrows, and a battle for the fate of humanity ensues, and at the very end, when Kars is about to deliver the finishing blow, the requiem arrow that jojo had been carrying plunges itself into the stand, making it requiem and allowing jojo to win.
But Dio would not have The World as he would not be able to be stabbed with the arrow. If anything the pillar men would get stands before Dio in this situation.
dio would own the hot shares . and Jonathan would lead a revolt dio become a vampire by using a stone mask he owned and zeppeli would be a non racist and see the Joe state in trouble and would teach Jonathan hamon
joseph: *literally kills 3 godlike beings (kars didn’t die but he just is stuck in space forever) without anything other than a simple breathing technique* jotaro: *almost dies killing gay vampire and loses 1 close friend of his using a stand which is like 10 times stronger than him* #josephisbest
good story plot but there's still alternate universes you have to go through if you want to leave no one left standing and they never run out but that also means one day they'll meet a universe with a character that can beat them.
tbh they don't go around killing everybody without a reason... how many times you see the pillar men kill anyone for the sake of being evil?' most of the time it's neutralizing threats, and/or accidentally killing people like people killing ants
i dont want to spoil or anything, this is just a suggestion for manga readers, id like to see a video of "What if Valentine won" or a "What if Diego beated Valentine"
The fact that everyone underestimates Santana so much makes me sad. Santana was so much powerful I think the main three pillar men feared his potential. He was having a great strength. He can be a stone in the sun unlike others who have to hide or he will go inside someone body to hide. Yeah I know ultimate kars can mimic his power but he has the actual power. If he had used the stone mask with Aja first he would have been undefeatable. I think Santana was the most dangerous pillar man and we still don't no even if he died or is in hibernation. Even in hibernation he is absorbing life.
Santana was my favourite pillar man idk why maby it’s cuz he looked the best maby cuz he was the 1st one shown or maby cuz he was unuiqe and had diffrent powers
No, if the Pillar men would have won the fight against the Hamon users humanity would have soon united under one alliance to stop the Pillar men and granted, all weapons at the time would have been useless but since it is 1938 this new human super alliance would have poured all resources into developing a nuclear bomb in a global equivalent of the Manhatten Project and maybe would have been able to do so within a few months. And once you have that you have a way to kill the Pillar men, and don't say that a nuclear bomb wouldn't have done it. Kars was barely able to get out of the volcano with lava that was 1000 degrees celcius hot. The inside of a nuclear fireball is up to several MILLION degrees hot. You just need to have some brave soldiers that take the nuclear bomb into a fighter jet and kamikaze it into the Pillar men(and we've seen Jospeh outrun ultimate Kars with a cargo plane) because a missle they could just fly away from.
Hmmmm Kars resistance isn't really logic. It is manga logic that applies. He couldn't resist lava but he could resist the heat of the sun (hes own hamon)
Cockroaches aren't immune to radiation. They're affected less noticeably due to their slow molting cycles. The more an organism's cells undergo division, the more affected they are by radiation. If anything, all that morphing, breaking and reforming would make them more vulnerable.
What part of COMPLETE PERFECT CONTROL over his own biology most people don't understand? Even if Kars could die by being right besides the point of detonation, he would easily be able to avoid it and then simply kill every mutated cell in his body at the same time or just change then back to normal He cannot die by any biological means Even in the vacuum of space he is still alive, he just stopped thinking rationally (bassicly hibernation)
I see exactly one way the pillar men might be stopped, but it would require humanity to somehow manage to keep the pillar men distracted for a full seven years, and keep them away from a certain project in the United States... As powerful as the ultimate form was, there is no reason to believe that it would be able to survive a nuclear blast at close range. Again, it is a long shot to assume that the pillar men wouldn't put a stop to the project before humanity could finish the weapon, but if they did, that would be checkmate.
Ultimate Kars' abilities are solely enhanced versions of every other plant and animal on Earth. However, as far as we know, there aren't any animals or plants immune to radiation. In fact, considering how much more often Pillar Men cells must divide in comparison to humans, it is possible that they could suffer more from radiation poisoning than a normal person would.
In a world dominated by the Pillar Men humans would be disperate and there would be lots of people with a strong will to survive. If they find the arrows there would be more stand users than in the canon universe and maybe with an army of stand users they could defeat Kars.. but it would also imply that the Pillar Men could obtain a stand.. Time based stands sure would help and maybe if DIO and Jotaro join forces they would win.. Also what if the mask with the Aja Stone is used on DIO? Would it unlock vampire full potential or it only works on Pillar Men?
The mask unlocks hidden potential by doing some.weird things with the brain Dios potential was unlocked, so a stone mask with the red stone would not improve him in any way
I’d imagine that eventually Kars would get bored without immortality at some point, same with Wamuu and Esidisi. I believe that eventually the Pillar Men would stop thinking.
4:13 You do realize that insects can only manage to pull multiple times above their body weight because they're small right? The square-cube law prevents this from scaling well.
The law of common sense also states that you can't fucking gain the ability of bugs, but here we are. You can't bring that law into the JoJo universe because then most of it wouldn't make any sense anyway.
When Wammu battles Caesar, Wammu actually felt a bit of emotion for him when he died. This is because he said the tradition of Zeppeli bloodline, effecting him and causing him to not fight and just stand there, even when Caesar gets crushed by the stone.. ✝️
Another weird scenario would be if the Piller Men showed up later (So either DIO vs the Piller Men or The Duwang Gang vs the Piller Men (Possibly Kira as well))
There would still be stands more than capable of, in theory, killing the pillar men. Killer Queen, Highway to Hell, Cheap Trick, Golden Experience Requiem, Cream, Malicious Misdeeds Managed for a Meager Price, Notorious B.I.G. ... These are all a few that come to mind, but there are still probably more. Anyways, those are the ones that could kill/delete the pillar men. Then there are stands that could potentially bind them to an alternate reality such as Man in the Mirror or Atrocious Actions Acted at an Agreeable Amount. So in short, any stand that alters dimensions or has a built in remove/kill on touch ability is capable of killing them because it surpasses the ability to heal completely. Then there are the arguable ones such as Star Platinum in its prime and the World because they can also stop time allowing the pillar men to be dealt fatal damage before being able to heal... But I don't know how that would turn out. There's also White Album, which can produce a similar effect to outer space which is what defeated Kars in the first place, but I still don't really know how that would work either since it's not the exact same environment. Still though, there is no organism on the earth that can withstand such conditions so Kars most likely wouldn't be able to evolve into an organism that could deal with the effect.
Kars didnt die though, the anime basically says that he stopped thinking because he wanted to die but couldnt, since if he has the power of all organisms then the cold wouldnt affect him and he doesnt really need oxygen.
The only way ironically to beat Pillar Men if you have a stand... is to give THEM a stand. Since the user (they) can't be touched, you have to rely on beating the enemy stand to a pulp and pray it isn't a de-attached one like Yellow Temperance.
Here's what my scenario would be. So the Pillar Men, specifically Ultimate Kars and adapted Esidisi and adapted Wamuu each start going for they're goals with Kars and Esidisi trying to enslave humans in an area and Wamuu searching the lands for a worthy opponents. They start in Europe and conquer it with ease. Then they decide to go to Mexico and there they revive Santana who then also becomes adapted but still stays where he is to write scriptures. They then have to decide to strike either the United States or Canada since they already took out Mexico. They ultimately take on Canada first because Kars believes that they can become more cold resistant before taking on the USSR. While this is happening, realizing that the Pillar Men are a threat, Stalin, Roosevelt, Churchill, Mussolini, Hirohito, and Hitler sign a pact that has them team up to fight the Pillar Men because desparate times call for desparate measures. The only rule is no spreading of Communism and no anti semitism, which Stalin, Mussolini, and Hitler agree to out of desparation. So they start planning on ways to kill the Pillar Men with Germany working its science turning most of they're army into super soldiers, Stalin pushes factory workers to work harder and give out resources faster while dolling out food to keep his workers and people content. The US starts planning to build an atom bomb with help from Albert Einstein. Meanwhile, the Pillar Men strike Italy and defeat them with no effort whatsoever, before taking out Germany and Japan. The Pillar Men then decide to test the limits of they're bodies. Forty years pass with the United States, a now Democratic Germany, Democratic Japan, and England still fighting the Pillar Men who have just taken out the USSR and DIO escapes his coffin, obtains The World and, realizing there are no Joestar's to hinder him, does what he normally does and that's have women give birth to Rykiel, Ungalo, Donatello, and Giorno and form that relationship with Pucci. While this happens, Pucci and Weather Report obtain their Stands but Pucci never takes Weather Report's memory this time. DIO decides to try and conquer the world and plants fleshbuds in Polnareff and Kakyoin while also forming the Nine Glory Gods and getting other Stand users seen in Part 3. Around this time Avdol runs into the Pillar Men and he battles Esidisi. Impressed by his abilities with fire and care for the planet, he asks Kars if he can train Avdol to which Kars denies. In secret, Esidisi keeps training Avdol and Avdol forms a miniature group of Crusaders after defeating Kakyoin and Polnareff. Hol Horse joins them soon after. Also around this time Kars notices DIO having the same goal as him but then also knows there can be only one. He and Wamuu then join Avdol, Polnareff, Kakyoin, Hol Horse, and Esidisi on a journey to Egypt. Avdol dies to J. Geil in India but before his death he pulls a Zeppeli and gives Esidisi all the power of Magician's Red. They eventually get to Egypt after defeating the group of Stand users fought in Stardust Crusaders. Hol Horse gets killed by N'Doul before N'Doul gets Divine Sandstorm and killed. The Oingo Boingo Brothers get killed easily alongside Chaka and Khan. During the battle with Khan, Kars breaks Anubis, killing Anubis. Mariah tries to fight by using magnetism to stop Kars' Light Mode but falls to Esidisi's improved Crossfire Hurricane. Alessi stood no chance. Kakyoin defeats D'Arby in a poker game. They then get to DIO's mansion. Kakyoin beats the other D'Arby before he and Polnareff are killed by Vanilla Ice who also nearly kills Esidisi but he escapes and kills Vanilla Ice by using his veins to pull him out of Cream before doing that kick that kills Loggins in Battle Tendency. Wamuu fights Pet Shop and after killing the bird says he has respect for him after how well he fought back. The three Pillar Men then fight DIO with Ultimate Kars killing DIO after DIO knocks Esidisi unconscious and does the same to Wamuu. The three Pillar Men then continue their normal goals until 2001. By now everyone around the world knows what's going on and Passione and La Squadra start teaming up to fight the Pillar Men with Diavolo assisting La Squadra and Passione. They watch as the Pillar Men destroy Morioh. Luckily the survivors, Koichi, Okuyasu, and Rohan escape to Italy alongside Pucci and Weather Report. By now Pucci has obtained C-Moon as well. They all fight the Pillar Men. Esidisi kills Rohan, Koichi, Pucci, and Weather Report before he is erased by The Hand before Okuyasu is killed by Wamuu who kills every member of La Squadra and Passione except Diavolo, Bruno, Fugo, Narancia, and Giorno. Purple Haze is used to kill Wamuu before Kars easily kills Bruno and Fugo. He also kills Diavolo and nearly kills Narancia but Narancia survives. Giorno obtains the arrow, stabs himself, obtains Gold Experience Requiem, kills Kars infinitely, and he and Narancia help humanity recover from the Pillar Men's attack.
I can imagine Dio would be pissed that the world was already conquered.
But DIO already controls the world
@@Cleeboos
Stand: 「The Joke」
Stand user: 「Bore Ragnarok」
Stand ability: Went over your head
@@Cleeboos r/whoosh
@@awesomesauce4758 the perfect stand
@@lordfridge4849 R/it'swooooshwith4o's
They would probably pose sensually until the sun explodes.
Hell yea
Hotter than the sun itself
ayaAyAYYAay
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I mean if Dio survived became oh he would easily kill them
@The New Minecrafter WHO? I mean Dio oh is able to kill all ulfs easily
Imagine a dark timeline anime where the Pillar Men rule humanity and Dio runs a resistance of stand users
That'd be awesome as fuck!
Imagine Kars mocking DIO, being all like "What do you have that I don't?"and then *ZA WARUDO!*
Jotaro would be in it too, maybe he'd kill Whamu.
+Stevean2 Then we could fix that by simply making Joseph sex up Suzie Q via random encounter and plot convenience before he meets the Pillarmen.
Dio would just want to kill them so he himself can rule the world.
Which is the twist of the story
Starnana Not how sperm works but ok.
No credit for Speedwagon? Without the foundation, anti-vampire tech isn't made as fast
All memes aside that's a good point.
Speedwagon gets the mask that turned them into ultimate beings and becomes ultimate speedwagon
@Liberty Justice SHUT UP THAT WAS SUPERIOR GERMAN ENGINEERING
@Captain Zorc GREATEST IN THE WORLD
@Captain Zorc no German science will be the in the whole universe
1:43
"Imagine if the fists aren't fists, and they're actually respect..."
gold.
experience.
7 page respect.
Rayzo -
lol
@@rayzojams RESPECT RESPECT RESPECTRESPECTRESPECTRESPECTRESPECTRESPECTRESPECTRESPECTRESPECTRESPECTRESPECTRESPECTRESPECTRESPECTRESPECTRESPECTRESPECTRESPECTRESPECTRESPECT RESPEEEECT
That’s sounds like something wammu would say
@@xX_wiLLiam_Xx nice
If the Pillar Men won, then the only one that could save the world would be the ambulance that killed Kira, or whatever the equivalent of an ambulance was back then.
PhantomZkullX79 an abulance
PhantomZkullX79 ambulance
Funstun 123123 took the words out of my mouth
ambulance>kars
A...Speedwagon > Kars
If they won every characters would had a Kar's accident
That jojoke was *made in heaven*
Quality Queen this comment thread was a *golden experience*
Sasha Starks that comment was kingly. Truly crimson
Squadela I need to show this comment to the world.
This is the best comment section ever.
do a video on *what if stands were called sits in jojo's bizarre adventure?*
Ky$
Sit proud would be the op.
IT'S AN ENEMY S I T
SITO POWAH ZA WARUDO
Evan Russell omfg stop
Actually Lisa Lisa could absolutely have had a fighting chance. It says in the manga that her Hamon is 3 times as powerful as Joseph's. Kars cheated because fighting Lisa Lisa would have meant certain death for him. She would probably have lost against all three at once though.
Araki also had A LOT of potential for Lisa Lisa but due to the pressure from the editors, she was made to appear more weak. Even in her fighting mode. Otherwise, I think Lisa Lisa could smack Kars right off the face of the earth, let alone Wham and Esidisi. (apart though)
@@plebweeb8868 Japan needs to woman up
@@inditsnotdenon922 *INTERNALISED MISOGYNY*
Well Hamon is never the differentiating factor when fighting The Pillar Men, weird tactics are.
Oo
6:48- DIO: I am free. Do you have a dog I can kick around?
Kars killing DIO: I love dogs!
DIO: Wrry?!
Grimoire666 Your the reason people have faith in humanity
At that point Kars would say "Kick it, it matters not to me. I am the ultimate life form."
Darth Kahn.
You're not.
Darth Kahn q
Kars loving dogs is the true reason why Araki won't bring him back as a villain ;D
Don't respect women
Respect Wammu
Just Moved In *Wammun
and speedwagon
“Hol Horse dislike this”
Respect Pillarwomen
Always, brother.
Then every jojo opening would be A W A K E N
Ayayayay
Also your name made me remenber of a monstrosity that should never exist
KAKYOIN DID YOU LAY THIS EGG
@@brunobrx3599 cockyoin
And kars’s stand would be the ambulance that killed Kira
@@brunobrx3599 NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
NO MORE EGG NO MORE JOUTA AND NO MORE CHARMY GREEN
noone wants to think about this, but kars being ultimate would be able to turn himself into a pillar woman and revive his clan. that would be their plan for sure.
Holy shit thats acutally true
Kaze Emanuar he could just asexually reproduce like jellyfish
@@tylerclarke5591 yeah but between changing sex then reproducing or doing it like a jellyfish what would you choose
The Final Crusader jellyfish, whole lotta Minnie me’s
The Final Crusader jellyfish so I don’t need to cry about not having kids
Finding Dio to them would be like "holy shit someone left us a cookie in this box at the bottom of the ocean!"
Ah, but Dio's a lot more crafty than any of the other vampires we've seen, so there might be some degree of threat from him.
InfernosReaper not really. Ofc Dio wont be himself if the coffin lid was opened. He just woke up from his slumber.
@@InfernosReaper what threat? Three pillarmen and possible three ultimate life form..or just ultimate kars vs dio who just a w o k e ?
@@littlelilax1173 pillarmen, to be realistic. It'd take a strong stand user of at least Joseph's caliber to beat Ultimate Kars.
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Some of Dio's minions actually could do it, especially since stands apparently aren't a natural part of evolution on earth, so an ultimate pillarman couldn't just acquire one
@@InfernosReaper mmm but three-pillarmen also take note they we're all defeated with luck and tricks
I don't see any of them creative as Joseph
And another one- it took an active volcano activated by hamon from the stone to launch kars-
I don't see any of his minions can take off three demi gods or ultimate being
Ps: if you still "stand" for your opinion of stands winning against them, It's much better to bet on Requiem stands against them ig
What if the pillar men were discovered later in the timeline?
Depending on when youd have jotaro or giorno just obliterate them. Considering the pillar men are near or in Italy im sure youd have Jotaro obtaining a requiem that could undo their transformation and then ora ora ora if this is before Part 5. Post part 5 Giorno takes care of business with GER easily
SANTANA GETS OUR FROM UNDER THE LIGHTS IN THE MIDDLE OF PART 5
Okuyasu would just delete them with Za Hando
@@jam9484 +cream under dio
@@OnlyMagikarp yeah. Imagine three of them obtain stand too.
Actually. If they are Ultimate beings they would have to be able to reproduce asexually.
What if KARS gets curious and grows a "little something" down there just ease his curiosity? ;)
Bruno Bucciarati ...
william timonen we all know cell is the perfect life form
Just Another Guy
*WRONG*
shadow is indeed the ultimate life form.
Kars just decides to procreate and starts growing spores on his shoulders that turn into Cell and Shadow XD
"Ultimate Kars, ultimate Wammu, ultimate Esidisi"
Santana: *sad guard dog noise*
At least Von Stroheim wouldn't die in Stalingrad like a cyborg pansy
Survived a lots of vampires and the ultimate being
Lost to a bunch of hungry people
There is a fanfic about the russians having stands.
Ultimate Kars:
Ultimate Esidisi:
Ultimate Wamuu:
Santana: Am I a joke to you?
I know, Santana doesn’t get acknowledged enough
The other Pillar Men: Yes. Yes you are.
"Kars will encounter at least one Stand user"
Rohan pulls up and declares him dead
epic
what ever even happened to Santana? he never died he just turned back to stone.
I think they might even go to seek Santana and find him being turned into stone. Whilest it's obvious to the three that Santana was defeated too, they would still see him as a prawn yet awaken him. I think Kars is actually a bit scared of Santana since Santana can actually stand the sun! Sure he's not the brightest, but Kars refused to step to such a low level in order to conquer the sun without all of his glory.
As far as we know, he's still under constant UV light, courtesy of the Speedwagon Foundation.
Imagine if joseph overpowered him so bad than santana became tamed and lived the rest of his thousand year life as a scientist or a therapist
pleb weeb Santana got burnt by the sun though that’s how the SWF keeps him under control
Eventually Santana Stopped Thinking
If the Pillar Men won, Awaken would play redundantly.
I would absolutely cherish that.
I'm starting to see a trend.. Guys, Dio Vs. The Pillar Men won't matter if Dio cant acquire a stand. EVEN THEN, Dio with The World isn't touching 3 Pillar Men. Especially if one of them is Ultimate Kars.
Kaleb I.A. vanilla ice can make them cease to exist.
No arrows = No Ice
Plus I'm pretty sure vanilla ice is in his 20's. Meaning that the Pillar men had probably already taken over the earth 15 years before he was born.
Kaleb I.A. i see your point
Also they'd probably be able to sense/see the space being erased and just avoid it
ALSO.
NO ARROWS = NO KIRA QUEEEN / KINGU CRIMSON / etc
Jouta Kujo would come from the alternate universe and beat them with the power of Stand cancer.
high elephant
Stand + cancer = S T A N C E R
*plot armour
One Subject I found interesting with this scenario: One of Kars philosophies is that "the end justifies the means" and "only one can stand at the top". Maybe Kars would even betray the other two Pillarmen to be the only perfect being?
Kars wouldn't outright betray the pillar men since they would still be useful pawns for him, at the very least
Since DIO could use Hermit purple and Araki stated that HAMON in stand form would be hermit purple...
Doesn't that mean DIO can use HP but couldn't use it on his own body because it'll kill him?
Dragon Ball Sound Effects yes
Technically.
The vampire blood is trying to take over the hamon infused blood, if the hamon blood is used then Dio would burn from the inside out.
You have answered my question. Thank you Kaleb-sensei
That still doesn't explain why he can't use his "Space Ripper Stingy Eyes."
I just imagine Dio just sitting there spitballing names for his powers and that was the best he could come up with.
Wasn't it Straizo who named it that? I don't remember if Dio ever actually called it by name if he named it, please correct me if I'm wrong.
4:02 great now im imagining Kars flat on his back stretching his arms and legs out towards the sky while saying "Photosynthesis.....photosynthesis" like SpongeBob did lol
Hypothetically, would Alessi be able to revert the pillar men back to when they weren't ultimate yet?
Or he could make the situation worse: God-Tier Fetuses that murder everything.
If Alessi used his power on DIO, would he revert to Part 1 Dio? Would he be young Dio's head on young Jonathan's body? Would he still be a vampire?
samiamtheman 73 make a theory vid pls
samiamtheman 73 The video game shall answer that for you.
No, Pillar Men were old as fuck
if they win they will make pillar women and awake there little piller man and do stuff behind pillars
Probably. Wamuu and Eisidisi would also be able to transform, so they can transform into different genders of Pillar Men and reproduce
@@solokiwidestroyer Kars could make a squirrel out of his hand
He could literally just spit at the ground and then make it turn into another pillar man/woman
@@solokiwidestroyer okay this make me question everything and now i'm afraid to search If that exists
@@MrPF
God: *makes me out of dirt and women out of men's ribs*
Kars: *makes pillar women out of his spit*
God: That's what I'm talking about
solokiwidestroyer an then their new theme would be GAYAYAYAYAYAYA
Meanwhile Santana: Uh Lord Kars, did we just win? Can you please help me? *I'm still in a box!*
We gotta go save Santana
I mean, if Kars wanted to start a resurgence of Pillarmen, he could. See, the thing about having complete control of your physiology is that you don't have to stay the same sex. In fact, you don't even need two people of opposite ones to have kids. He could just asexually reproduce if he wanted to. Plenty of critters have that "power" and he has the power of all the critters, right?
So I think he'd just recreate the Pillarmen race in their new perfected form and they'd... probably just ignore humanity, really. They'd just do whatever they wanted. No one could stop them, after all, and why go through the trouble of killing ants that aren't being a nuisance? Some ants will inevitably get squished underfoot but that's what happens to ants.
Vilhelm Puddintain well said
Vilhelm Puddintain They’d keep humans around to feed on.
Steve Smith They wouldn’t even need to feed anymore
Kars with a pussy??? Ooh that's hot 😋
@@user-ue6ur5nt5z nigga what
Imagine a fight between the Pillar men and a resistance group of a stand users that consist of the member of Dio's minion, Duwang gang + Kira, Passione and several prisoners from Green dolphin prison led by Dio and the only surviving Joestar in this scenario: Giorno
Dio would provably join forces with them to rule the world, considering hes probably near the same power level as Santana, especially if he got The World
Lunar duo with the world is well above Santana's level and even phantom blood dio would destroy Santana with the freeze
A fight between a young Enyaba and the pillar men could be interesting, she'd just need a way to puncture their skin, which as i say it actually seems impossible
I don't think it'd be any harder than it was before to puncture their skin than before, it would just be less of a major wound for them (not that it would be anyway). With Enyaba, even the tiniest scratch would do. Assuming she had a Stand as a young woman (I honestly don't remember if she did or if it was from the arrow) she could beat the Pillar Men if she lured them into her foggy town, set off some nail bombs and caught them all in it and then possessed them with her Stand. I'm going to assume that none of the Pillar Men can suck up her Stand like Star Platinum can, considering that no living being could do that anyway. She'd need a lot of luck on her side, but she could do it.
Would whammu pose a threat to enyaba? His wind horn and stuff might nullify enyaba's fog :0
She could use that trick joseph used on santana and get partially consumed, before releasing her stand inside one of them which might work
@@lunar8222 But Joseph was a Hamon User, which means he was resistant to complete Absorption, whereas Enyaba was just a normal Human.
Hm, didn't star platinum just "breath all her fog"? I don't think the pillar men wouldn't be able to do so too
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WITH YOUR FISTS!
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Respect Wammu
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Better Question, what if Straizo failed to prevent Santana from reviving after leaving the temple, and Santana donned a Stone Mask and thus gained a mode, thereby increasing his fighting ability? Can totally imagine Santana raising a vampire army in Mexico to get revenge against his kin in Europe.
Four words. LET'S GO TO SPACE *Stardust crusaders begins*
What if a human put on a stone mask with the stone of Aja?
Probably something similar to reaching heaven.
Yeah, like maybe a vampire without the sun weakness? On the other hand, it was said that the only reason the pillar men needed Aja was because otherwise the mask couldn't reach their brains... so, maybe a human putting on the Aja mask would just destroy the brain because the spikes got stronger.
That would not change anything
The only thing that the mask do is reching the brain with somespikes to unlock hidden potential.
In the sale way, a pillar man with a stone mask would not make him stonger
Death. Since the Stone Mask can only partially pierce the Pillar Men's brain, while it can pierce a human's with ease. A Aja Stone Mask will demolish a human's brain.
never thought of that it sounds cool ultimate vampire maybe
What if the Pillar Men showed up in later parts ? For example Part 4, The Duwang gang + Kira Vs The Pillar Men. How Would that work out?
Think Duwang gang + Kira could've wiped the floor with the pillar men.
Only Kira would be needed. Just on press of the switch and BOOM! no more Kars.
that would assume that Kira could actually touch Kars
but maybe Kars will be arrogant and shit and that Kira can hide his ability for long enough
EsotericRenko Well Kars can't see killer queen so Kira can touch him easily
question is would Kars be that obvlivious to not know stands before fighting Kira?
they have 400IQ and they learn things easily.
unless, you know, Kars gets out of pillar and faces Kira first
kars would explore his body much like me in my teenage years
wammu finding people to fight much like my teen years
AC-DC doing what ever again much like my teen years
Esidesi would def be a total troll just fucking with people for lulz.
Pillar men finding DIO in the ocean
DIO: Who are you?
Kars: I'm you, but stronger.
Yare yare...
You forgot to mention how Dio would factor in...
No I didn't, Dio would get bodied.
dont think its factored in because Dios just a vampire and regular kars would smash his shit in. And also ultimate kars can use hamon thats comparable to the sun.
(made in heaven DIO walks in the room)
First Last Kars with the stand ULTIMATE walks into the room and surpasses over heaven
At the end you forgot DIO.
Humanity's true savior is DIO-sama.
What? What do you mean heaven didn't come?
Why would anyone want stop it?
WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE FCKING JOESTARS??!!
DIO do not save people, its the ambulance
Dio is a vampire
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If only jotaro was around, he could just say "so it's the same type of lifeform as me" and become Ultimate Jotaro.
Heaven ascended Jotaro
What if the fitness gods won?
NO SKINNY BOI.
NO FAT BOI.
ONLY MUSCLES
If the Pillar Men won, World War 2 would be the Humans vs the Pillar men instead of the Axis vs Allies. You need to remember battle tendency took place right before World War 2 began.
... there were nazis
Part 2 is when world war 2 was starting to happen
@@Jassolacob yeah-- that's why he said "right before"
What if Dio had a stand...in part 1? As in his original body and all of his vampire powers along with The World.
Then Joseph is fucked. Even if he couldn't feel the Stand, he sure as hell would feel the knives.
well then jonathan would have one too
Then the pillar man would be screwed
@@lordfridge4849 no he would not thats not how stands work
@@shrekonion8307 he would have hermit purple but stronger because its the representation of hamon and his hamon was stronger than josephs at his old age. (For facts there is the word of god and toppeti being able to read zeppelis future like dio for pollnaref, he did read his emotions but its very similar)
Well, we won. *AYAYAYAYAYYYYYYYY*
Lisa lisa: I got this.
*POW!*
Kars: Not anymore
Scazoid actually, according to araki, lisa lisa is 3x time stronger than joseph and ceasar, and that kar have to cheat because fighting her would mean certain death for him. This is from araki himself
Could Made in Haven exit Gold experience's Death loop by reseting the universe?
you lose your stand ın the death loop tho
He wouldn't have his stand to use Uni Reset though..
It probably don't even affect Pucci
No made in heaven wouldn’t be able to escape the Infinite death loop
Humanity shall be required to do amazing poses daily. Along with playing the “Awaken” theme song.
I don't know if this is a good or bad ending for humanity but it's a better fate than getting completely annihilated.
Then we’d be watching Kar Kar’s Bizarre Takeover.
Joseph defeated the ultimate life form, so technically he is the ultimate life form.
Let that sink in
And he never dies and tequila Joseph best girl
Dude Joseph would have never beat kars if it wasn't for the volcano and Joseph being the ultimate lifeform is legit just dumb asl
Powerscaling logic
Kars: Who are you ?
Kira: Killer Queen has already touched your skull
Kars: Frick *explodes*
Kars: *HEALS BACK PERFECTLY FINE*
Kira theme: stops
Ayayayyayaa:starts
you cant heal if you straight up dont exist anymore
you cant heal if you straight up dont exist anymore
If one blood cell was left we would regenerate anyways.
what about speedwagon? they were no match for speedwagon
Well, Holly and therefore Jotaro wouldn't have been born, DIO would come back after another 50 years, possibly still get the stand arrow from Enya and give the Pillar Men Stands. Then DIO would probably either team up with the pillar men, or try to get them to follow him. And then they all take over the universe.
Or they burst out in manly fights with each other and stuff. That'd be so cool.
How can you guarentee her not dying / find the arrow in this verse
when u realize that joseph was ineffective against kars bc kars was immune to joseph's tricks bc kars is so level-headed and calculated bc of his personality, but once he becomes the ultimate being, he lets his guard down from being so cocky that he lets joseph defeat him. also, it was said that the red stone would be what would destroy the pillar men (which it caused the volcano to erupt), but it is bc of kars's use of the red stone that he left himself open and defenseless against joseph's cunning tricks.
Kars, AC/DC and Whaamu become living gods, meanwhile Santana is stuck living in a little room with his pet snake.
If the pillar men won, I can imagine humanity doing it's best to survive while the pillar men hunt them down, and eventually one of them (the part's jojo) finds the arrows, and a battle for the fate of humanity ensues, and at the very end, when Kars is about to deliver the finishing blow, the requiem arrow that jojo had been carrying plunges itself into the stand, making it requiem and allowing jojo to win.
There wouldnt be any more jojos if joseph got killed, unless you count dio, giorno, etc as joestars
1 problem :
Pillarman absorb living cretures that arent amon users in contact so the stand would just be absorbed
@@justsomeshinychewtlewitham6097 a stand isnt a living creature tho its just basically a physical form of the users mental energy
@@lunar8222 yes they would
@@gilmsgabriel they can't absorb stsnds, since they are not things made of flesh they are the manifestation of the user's soul
And what if Dio manages to get the world stop time and drain the blood from them?
that's if DIO pulls of the time stop without getting obliterated first/before hamon shenanigans happen
But Dio would not have The World as he would not be able to be stabbed with the arrow. If anything the pillar men would get stands before Dio in this situation.
I said "what if" for a reason.
True but this brings up a new situation, If the pillar men got stands what would they be like? Especially Ultimate Kars's stand.
Lord's Ember Ultimate Kars' stand wouldn't differ from his normal stand since stands are related to the mind, not the body
The world: *gets conquered*
DIO: *comes back and beat ups dog*
Kars: *spots DIO* YOU LITTLE SH-!
DIO: *Dies*
Then it would be Pillar Men‘s Bizarre Adventure
Can you do *"What if everybody was black?"* in Jojo's Bizzare Adventure ?
Jerome Joestar
Melvin Fuchs
The Joestars are slaves and/or extremely poor. They die in poverty. The end
Kaleb I.A. Joshua Joestar might be a better one. maybe even Jordan Joestar.
dio would own the hot shares . and Jonathan would lead a revolt dio become a vampire by using a stone mask he owned and zeppeli would be a non racist and see the Joe state in trouble and would teach Jonathan hamon
Melvin Fuchs just look at Tumblr
1:37 Forget "pretty messed up", that was funny.
joseph: *literally kills 3 godlike beings (kars didn’t die but he just is stuck in space forever) without anything other than a simple breathing technique*
jotaro: *almost dies killing gay vampire and loses 1 close friend of his using a stand which is like 10 times stronger than him*
#josephisbest
4:32 don't forget about the hamon users in Tibet
Long story short, They become ultimate lifeforms and go to different universes fighting and killing people till noone is left standing
good story plot but there's still alternate universes you have to go through if you want to leave no one left standing and they never run out
but that also means one day they'll meet a universe with a character that can beat them.
If anything this video would have taken place in a different universe to be honest.
tbh they don't go around killing everybody without a reason... how many times you see the pillar men kill anyone for the sake of being evil?' most of the time it's neutralizing threats, and/or accidentally killing people like people killing ants
i dont want to spoil or anything, this is just a suggestion for manga readers, id like to see a video of "What if Valentine won" or a "What if Diego beated Valentine"
Me after reading the title of this video : Then it would be "Goodbye JoJo"
Legends say that the pillar men are still respecting Lisa Lisa to this day.
The fact that everyone underestimates Santana so much makes me sad. Santana was so much powerful I think the main three pillar men feared his potential. He was having a great strength. He can be a stone in the sun unlike others who have to hide or he will go inside someone body to hide. Yeah I know ultimate kars can mimic his power but he has the actual power. If he had used the stone mask with Aja first he would have been undefeatable. I think Santana was the most dangerous pillar man and we still don't no even if he died or is in hibernation. Even in hibernation he is absorbing life.
Santana was my favourite pillar man idk why maby it’s cuz he looked the best maby cuz he was the 1st one shown or maby cuz he was unuiqe and had diffrent powers
4:45 that is basically ACDC’s role in battle tendency
No, if the Pillar men would have won the fight against the Hamon users humanity would have soon united under one alliance to stop the Pillar men and granted, all weapons at the time would have been useless but since it is 1938 this new human super alliance would have poured all resources into developing a nuclear bomb in a global equivalent of the Manhatten Project and maybe would have been able to do so within a few months. And once you have that you have a way to kill the Pillar men, and don't say that a nuclear bomb wouldn't have done it. Kars was barely able to get out of the volcano with lava that was 1000 degrees celcius hot. The inside of a nuclear fireball is up to several MILLION degrees hot. You just need to have some brave soldiers that take the nuclear bomb into a fighter jet and kamikaze it into the Pillar men(and we've seen Jospeh outrun ultimate Kars with a cargo plane) because a missle they could just fly away from.
Hmmmm
Kars resistance isn't really logic. It is manga logic that applies.
He couldn't resist lava but he could resist the heat of the sun (hes own hamon)
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Cockroaches aren't immune to radiation. They're affected less noticeably due to their slow molting cycles. The more an organism's cells undergo division, the more affected they are by radiation. If anything, all that morphing, breaking and reforming would make them more vulnerable.
What part of COMPLETE PERFECT CONTROL over his own biology most people don't understand?
Even if Kars could die by being right besides the point of detonation, he would easily be able to avoid it and then simply kill every mutated cell in his body at the same time or just change then back to normal
He cannot die by any biological means
Even in the vacuum of space he is still alive, he just stopped thinking rationally (bassicly hibernation)
I see exactly one way the pillar men might be stopped, but it would require humanity to somehow manage to keep the pillar men distracted for a full seven years, and keep them away from a certain project in the United States... As powerful as the ultimate form was, there is no reason to believe that it would be able to survive a nuclear blast at close range. Again, it is a long shot to assume that the pillar men wouldn't put a stop to the project before humanity could finish the weapon, but if they did, that would be checkmate.
Quade They are ultimate lifeform, So neuclear power couldnt do anything as long as its didnt send them into space/molecular-level destruction.
Ultimate Kars' abilities are solely enhanced versions of every other plant and animal on Earth. However, as far as we know, there aren't any animals or plants immune to radiation. In fact, considering how much more often Pillar Men cells must divide in comparison to humans, it is possible that they could suffer more from radiation poisoning than a normal person would.
@@NotFound-rt7iw Then how did kars survive in space?
@@Tleanantz he didn't, his brain simply shut off due to the lack of oxygen. but if he didn't turn it off he would've been dead for sure.
@@Tleanantz ultimate kars barely survived the volcano and nuclear fireballs are as hot if not hotter
In a world dominated by the Pillar Men humans would be disperate and there would be lots of people with a strong will to survive. If they find the arrows there would be more stand users than in the canon universe and maybe with an army of stand users they could defeat Kars.. but it would also imply that the Pillar Men could obtain a stand..
Time based stands sure would help and maybe if DIO and Jotaro join forces they would win..
Also what if the mask with the Aja Stone is used on DIO? Would it unlock vampire full potential or it only works on Pillar Men?
There is no Jotaro if Joseph dies. He could nearly die & come back, but then there wouldn't be a peaceful life to have a daughter in
The mask unlocks hidden potential by doing some.weird things with the brain
Dios potential was unlocked, so a stone mask with the red stone would not improve him in any way
『Ignis Vis』 this sounds like a story mode for a zenoverse esqe JoJo game
Félix Schmitt maybe a regular aja mask could give him sun immunity or something.
Alternate universe where the Pillar Men became ultimate life forms and then suffered from the existential boredom of being the top of everything
I’d imagine that eventually Kars would get bored without immortality at some point, same with Wamuu and Esidisi. I believe that eventually the Pillar Men would stop thinking.
Kars:ok. We accomplished our goals...
*blank stare* now what?
(vanilla ice walks in the room)
4:13 You do realize that insects can only manage to pull multiple times above their body weight because they're small right? The square-cube law prevents this from scaling well.
Shhhh... we don't talk about these things.
The law of common sense also states that you can't fucking gain the ability of bugs, but here we are. You can't bring that law into the JoJo universe because then most of it wouldn't make any sense anyway.
He literally shot piranhas into a plane from his wing arms, I think we’re well past the square-cube law
there is one thing humans have over pillarmen, and it's cloths.
What if Santana was reunited with the other three pillar men?
Surely they’d go find Santana and free him from petrification
They’d have 4 ultimate pillar men instead of 3
Imagine army of stando users
Vs
Three perfect Aztec gods
4 if they decide to save Santana
Huh that'd be an interesting timeline...Like, DIO gathers an army of stand users specifically to fight the pillarmen. Sounds neat
When Wammu battles Caesar, Wammu actually felt a bit of emotion for him when he died. This is because he said the tradition of Zeppeli bloodline, effecting him and causing him to not fight and just stand there, even when Caesar gets crushed by the stone.. ✝️
What if the Santana was victorious against Joseph and Stroheim? Then we have a victory scenario for all FOUR Pillar Men.
Well no santana was Just a dog for kars
Pillar Men: exterminate all hamon users
random kids: yo hit me right here
random kids: why are you glowing
Dio: Oh, so you're approaching me?
Kars: *Gets Closer and fucking eats DIO*
Another weird scenario would be if the Piller Men showed up later (So either DIO vs the Piller Men or The Duwang Gang vs the Piller Men (Possibly Kira as well))
Kars is the only villain in JoJo that actually saved a dog, instead of killing it.
A better question is what they would have as stands... not counting ultimate kars' purple hermit.
Two things can happen if humanity wants to survive.
1. The Manhatten Project
2. *DIO SAVES THE WORLD USING THE WORLD*
There would still be stands more than capable of, in theory, killing the pillar men. Killer Queen, Highway to Hell, Cheap Trick, Golden Experience Requiem, Cream, Malicious Misdeeds Managed for a Meager Price, Notorious B.I.G. ... These are all a few that come to mind, but there are still probably more. Anyways, those are the ones that could kill/delete the pillar men. Then there are stands that could potentially bind them to an alternate reality such as Man in the Mirror or Atrocious Actions Acted at an Agreeable Amount.
So in short, any stand that alters dimensions or has a built in remove/kill on touch ability is capable of killing them because it surpasses the ability to heal completely.
Then there are the arguable ones such as Star Platinum in its prime and the World because they can also stop time allowing the pillar men to be dealt fatal damage before being able to heal... But I don't know how that would turn out. There's also White Album, which can produce a similar effect to outer space which is what defeated Kars in the first place, but I still don't really know how that would work either since it's not the exact same environment. Still though, there is no organism on the earth that can withstand such conditions so Kars most likely wouldn't be able to evolve into an organism that could deal with the effect.
Kars didnt die though, the anime basically says that he stopped thinking because he wanted to die but couldnt, since if he has the power of all organisms then the cold wouldnt affect him and he doesnt really need oxygen.
When I saw this thumbnail, I said this, "there would be no Jotaro then."
1:35 - 1:37 true true but that almost made me die of laughter
The only way ironically to beat Pillar Men if you have a stand... is to give THEM a stand. Since the user (they) can't be touched, you have to rely on beating the enemy stand to a pulp and pray it isn't a de-attached one like Yellow Temperance.
Here's what my scenario would be.
So the Pillar Men, specifically Ultimate Kars and adapted Esidisi and adapted Wamuu each start going for they're goals with Kars and Esidisi trying to enslave humans in an area and Wamuu searching the lands for a worthy opponents. They start in Europe and conquer it with ease. Then they decide to go to Mexico and there they revive Santana who then also becomes adapted but still stays where he is to write scriptures. They then have to decide to strike either the United States or Canada since they already took out Mexico. They ultimately take on Canada first because Kars believes that they can become more cold resistant before taking on the USSR. While this is happening, realizing that the Pillar Men are a threat, Stalin, Roosevelt, Churchill, Mussolini, Hirohito, and Hitler sign a pact that has them team up to fight the Pillar Men because desparate times call for desparate measures. The only rule is no spreading of Communism and no anti semitism, which Stalin, Mussolini, and Hitler agree to out of desparation. So they start planning on ways to kill the Pillar Men with Germany working its science turning most of they're army into super soldiers, Stalin pushes factory workers to work harder and give out resources faster while dolling out food to keep his workers and people content. The US starts planning to build an atom bomb with help from Albert Einstein. Meanwhile, the Pillar Men strike Italy and defeat them with no effort whatsoever, before taking out Germany and Japan. The Pillar Men then decide to test the limits of they're bodies. Forty years pass with the United States, a now Democratic Germany, Democratic Japan, and England still fighting the Pillar Men who have just taken out the USSR and DIO escapes his coffin, obtains The World and, realizing there are no Joestar's to hinder him, does what he normally does and that's have women give birth to Rykiel, Ungalo, Donatello, and Giorno and form that relationship with Pucci. While this happens, Pucci and Weather Report obtain their Stands but Pucci never takes Weather Report's memory this time. DIO decides to try and conquer the world and plants fleshbuds in Polnareff and Kakyoin while also forming the Nine Glory Gods and getting other Stand users seen in Part 3. Around this time Avdol runs into the Pillar Men and he battles Esidisi. Impressed by his abilities with fire and care for the planet, he asks Kars if he can train Avdol to which Kars denies. In secret, Esidisi keeps training Avdol and Avdol forms a miniature group of Crusaders after defeating Kakyoin and Polnareff. Hol Horse joins them soon after. Also around this time Kars notices DIO having the same goal as him but then also knows there can be only one. He and Wamuu then join Avdol, Polnareff, Kakyoin, Hol Horse, and Esidisi on a journey to Egypt. Avdol dies to J. Geil in India but before his death he pulls a Zeppeli and gives Esidisi all the power of Magician's Red. They eventually get to Egypt after defeating the group of Stand users fought in Stardust Crusaders. Hol Horse gets killed by N'Doul before N'Doul gets Divine Sandstorm and killed. The Oingo Boingo Brothers get killed easily alongside Chaka and Khan. During the battle with Khan, Kars breaks Anubis, killing Anubis. Mariah tries to fight by using magnetism to stop Kars' Light Mode but falls to Esidisi's improved Crossfire Hurricane. Alessi stood no chance. Kakyoin defeats D'Arby in a poker game. They then get to DIO's mansion. Kakyoin beats the other D'Arby before he and Polnareff are killed by Vanilla Ice who also nearly kills Esidisi but he escapes and kills Vanilla Ice by using his veins to pull him out of Cream before doing that kick that kills Loggins in Battle Tendency. Wamuu fights Pet Shop and after killing the bird says he has respect for him after how well he fought back. The three Pillar Men then fight DIO with Ultimate Kars killing DIO after DIO knocks Esidisi unconscious and does the same to Wamuu. The three Pillar Men then continue their normal goals until 2001. By now everyone around the world knows what's going on and Passione and La Squadra start teaming up to fight the Pillar Men with Diavolo assisting La Squadra and Passione. They watch as the Pillar Men destroy Morioh. Luckily the survivors, Koichi, Okuyasu, and Rohan escape to Italy alongside Pucci and Weather Report. By now Pucci has obtained C-Moon as well. They all fight the Pillar Men. Esidisi kills Rohan, Koichi, Pucci, and Weather Report before he is erased by The Hand before Okuyasu is killed by Wamuu who kills every member of La Squadra and Passione except Diavolo, Bruno, Fugo, Narancia, and Giorno. Purple Haze is used to kill Wamuu before Kars easily kills Bruno and Fugo. He also kills Diavolo and nearly kills Narancia but Narancia survives. Giorno obtains the arrow, stabs himself, obtains Gold Experience Requiem, kills Kars infinitely, and he and Narancia help humanity recover from the Pillar Men's attack.
**speedwagon melts all 3 pillar men with his abs**
If the pillar man won
They won
If Pillar Men won. Speedwagon would have to come out of retirement.