Always try and keep up with your videos even though I’m not a tradesman, just a DIY enthusiast. If I could make one request, if you do multiple videos at one house could you label them in the title like “part 1, part 2” or something? A bit easier to follow then. Cheers and keep up the good content!
11:23 "chipped" lol more like blew the brick out. Like you say it's under the box any way. lovely cutting out of the sockets though, not sure I could get them that neat.
You will love these sockets even more when you will be working on old house where the cables are extremely short in back box, L &N are close together in centre of socket,, I found it extremely helpful, otherwise I would have to extend wires
Its always nice to see tradesmen like yourself posting these wonderful videos especially for us DIY enthusiats. Also great you have an apprentice young people need to be supported in this way. Just great videos thanks 🙏
I dunno what the regs are like in England but your not allowed to chase sideways between sockets In ireland,only down in case anyone screws anything to the wall after
I couldn't help but notice Adam folding down the top and bottom lugs on the single metal back box, something l always done. I don't fully understand why manufacturers still provide these lugs as l can't ever recall a time when l have had reason to use then, you always run the risk of damaging the cable insulation especially when installing light switches into them. Keep up the good work and stay safe.
Good vid, that's what I call a happy job. Just a tip that I do when I put on outside sockets, use a thin layer of silicon(fingered, one swipe) just round the top and the sides of the box where it joins. ;-)
The best job for sure … and for me the best bit … the vacuum sucking up the dust when you cut the box recess. So many sparks and plumbers make such a mess of routing cables and pipes. This job was cracking.
Nick if you get a dust pan and sit it at an angle underneath the socket it catches 95% of the debris👍even better if you put the hover in the narrow point of the handle
Seeing as Adam's now got his shiny Bosch 10.8/12V kit, the rotary multitool (Dremel-esque thing) is very handy. I use it for dealing with stripped bolts and screws, cutting slots in enclosures, that sort of thing. If you need to cut a slot in an awkward bit of trunking it's a bit more manageable than a full size grinder.
Hi nick I had a problem like you knocked out for back box and had no fixings I bought some. R-KEM from screw fix put a blob on the neck of rack box pushed it on level and left in 10 minutes it was solid no screws or plugs 👍 jobs a good one and used it a few times now great stuff
Shouldn't you do a separate run with its own rdc breaker for the outside socket. I got it done with mine due to pressure washers takes anywhere from 1700w to 3000w depending on what model. I've had it before where using same ring main socket as what washing machine, tumble dryer , kettle extra used on. Made the rdc trip. Due to other high watts appliances on?
Old tech nic I use Schneider all the time for a long time anyways another one to look for is Hager sockets and switches they also look neat, lovely finish to them.
I keep Schneider on the van, a good range and I like the fan isolator that you can lock off with a key! Never had a faulty item yet, whether that’s just plain luck or Schneider are just reliable
I know it's an older video mate, but advice for next time you come across that crap (and it IS literally straw used for 'reinforcement'. Use 4" 6mm screws (spax are ideal) to attach the box back to the other side of the hollow brick, and put something behind (some form of dot/dab adhesive, or if you hate the next guy, Gripfill)
15:00 Shouldn't you have put a bead of silicone on the top and sides (leaving the bottom open for drainage) of the box to direct rain away from the hole? Ideally silicone should be run around the conduit fitting before it was installed in the wall as brick will absorb water. Just asking for a friend! 😊👍
Here in the us the conduit hole in the brick would need to be caulked to prevent air and water infiltration . Also the conduit must be sealed inside around the cables to keep air temp differences from causing condensation
You talk about the seal maintaining the IP rating of the outdoor socket and then put a drain hole in the bottom, surely this means it no longer has the original IP rating.
@@GreenHandlebar Didn't say it was a problem just pointing out that Nick was saying how the seal covering the fixing screw points maintained the IP rating then goes and destroys the IP rating by drilling a hole in it.
@@anthonyridgley1819 If condensation is a problem they should have sealed the conduit going to the inside socket to prevent the condensation causing a problem indoors.
And now you have socket with USB-C, USB-A, with 5V, 15V, and 20V.... Next will be 30W 40W and 50W. Plenty of reasons to change sockets every 6 months atm.
Love you didn’t chop all the way to the box’s with ya chase . Little things like that for me win everyday! Helps every trade make them neat after. I’m the enemy to be fair (plumber) but keep watching your channel and artisan . Think I’m board of plumbing vids not much new out there to be honest and it’s a bus man’s holiday if ya get my drift!
Just in reference to the silicone of the back of the outside socket, I was always taught to drill at abut of an angle for the outside socket that way the water can’t make its way back up and in. Eliminating the need to silicone.
Nice job bud like the way you stopped the chases before the boxes… I always use Lessie I like the way the switches have to loop terminal for the neutrals
Are there any of these back boxes for outside use which are meant to be chased like we do in Italy? Then the socket itself will have a gasket that will make a weatherproof seal on the external wall surface.
We have a brick / cement block inner wall, then hollow cavity with insulation sheeting, then another wall of bricks on the outside, so very dense walls
It's so you can spend a minute of so wondering if your appliance broke before you realise that you haven't switched the socket on. At least until you get used to it, which had been taking me the last 16 years and still not there...
Nice job Nick and glad to see you have a decent young fellow for an apprentice he seems to have a bit of character about him eh? which is always a plus. The job was really neat and tidy. By the by what is the antibacterial quality about the switches - am just curious as lay person? It was a pity they didn't make the shelves on top of the outlets white though as it would have looked really smick.
A very long horizontal chase has decreased load bearing capacity of wall. The vertical chase is not as critical as this horizontal one is. It would have been best to go under the boards.
Based on the shots Adam provided the long chase is only in the plaster thickness rather than the wall itself. Can't see any loss in strength in this case.... Maybe if was part way through the brick, especially if likely to be loaded by earthquakes or similar with horizontal movement, but not relevant in the uk
Conduit passed through, ? Have you not seen the latest efixx educational about running circuits through cavity?,apprrently, not appropriate with building regs 🤔
"And one of these does help as well. That's quite useful". Is that a burn for the ex-apprentice or a compliment? Was Adam rehired....again? LOL Carry on Adam.
Also good habit to put everything outside on a fused spur from inside, so if water somehow does get in something and start tripping the RCD/RCBO it can be isolated locally, to keep the rest of the circuit working while waiting to get it fixed.
I know you domestic boys despise this , but I fitter a commercial led, circular fitting with eml back up,, best thing I did,, being old, needing at least x1 piss every night, the minuscule green led lights up all the escape routes , with clarity, costing Fack-all,,
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Always try and keep up with your videos even though I’m not a tradesman, just a DIY enthusiast. If I could make one request, if you do multiple videos at one house could you label them in the title like “part 1, part 2” or something? A bit easier to follow then. Cheers and keep up the good content!
You need to weatherproof the outside socket with silicone. Water can make it's way behind the box and into the cavity of the wall.
Yh but it also makes it look better than having gaps behind socket
@@Josh-bs3eyhe needs to chill out with his sds on hammer mode otherswise hes gonna ruin all the brickwork
@@InfiniteTheMagicMan what part of video is that
@@Josh-bs3ey back on where he places the box on whole chunk missing
That brick 😱
7:50 literally had me in tears! 😂😂
🤣
11:23 "chipped" lol more like blew the brick out. Like you say it's under the box any way. lovely cutting out of the sockets though, not sure I could get them that neat.
You will love these sockets even more when you will be working on old house where the cables are extremely short in back box, L &N are close together in centre of socket,, I found it extremely helpful, otherwise I would have to extend wires
yea we love the Lisse range. The loop terminal on the switches is handy too
Its always nice to see tradesmen like yourself posting these wonderful videos especially for us DIY enthusiats. Also great you have an apprentice young people need to be supported in this way. Just great videos thanks 🙏
16:10 shouln't you have put some sealant in the hole for the outside socket to avoid water seeping into the cavity?
Would have been ideal but not always necessary, if you pay attention earlier on u can see the hole is done at a slight downward slope to the outside.
@@asoxedri1022 however he broke good chunk of brick to put the socket
@@daron8982 shit happens!! it was not a problem was it.
If the plaster depth is marginal, fixing the all band at an angle allows just that bit more room for the plaster, so allband is not overlapping itself
Delicious - is the word of the day (or week). Keep the content coming!!
I don’t use the Schneider outside sockets anymore as clients keep snapping the lid hinges (they only lift up half way)
Smart install😊
I dunno what the regs are like in England but your not allowed to chase sideways between sockets In ireland,only down in case anyone screws anything to the wall after
You must use a lot of cable.
@@markrainford1219 not really,just a few extra metres and it means you never have to deal with problems after
To stop the brick blowing out can you use a small diameter to drill out and then drill back in using full size?
Probably not a chapter and verse in the regs on that.
@@guywren4801 or fifteen separate regs that all contradict one another.
I couldn't help but notice Adam folding down the top and bottom lugs on the single metal back box, something l always done.
I don't fully understand why manufacturers still provide these lugs as l can't ever recall a time when l have had reason to use then, you always run the risk of damaging the cable insulation especially when installing light switches into them.
Keep up the good work and stay safe.
Good vid, that's what I call a happy job. Just a tip that I do when I put on outside sockets, use a thin layer of silicon(fingered, one swipe) just round the top and the sides of the box where it joins. ;-)
My favourite electricians on RUclips.
The best job for sure … and for me the best bit … the vacuum sucking up the dust when you cut the box recess. So many sparks and plumbers make such a mess of routing cables and pipes. This job was cracking.
Nick if you get a dust pan and sit it at an angle underneath the socket it catches 95% of the debris👍even better if you put the hover in the narrow point of the handle
Seeing as Adam's now got his shiny Bosch 10.8/12V kit, the rotary multitool (Dremel-esque thing) is very handy. I use it for dealing with stripped bolts and screws, cutting slots in enclosures, that sort of thing. If you need to cut a slot in an awkward bit of trunking it's a bit more manageable than a full size grinder.
More impressed to see a sparky actually being tidy and cleaning up after themselves
Brilliant work and thanks for sharing this with us take care
Hi nick I had a problem like you knocked out for back box and had no fixings I bought some. R-KEM from screw fix put a blob on the neck of rack box pushed it on level and left in 10 minutes it was solid no screws or plugs 👍 jobs a good one and used it a few times now great stuff
Kinda rough at 27.15 - why have you burst the brick from the inside? Surely you always drill slightly downwards from the exterior?
Wow there neat I don’t think I’ve ever ever ever done one that neat ever
Shouldn't you do a separate run with its own rdc breaker for the outside socket.
I got it done with mine due to pressure washers takes anywhere from 1700w to 3000w depending on what model.
I've had it before where using same ring main socket as what washing machine, tumble dryer , kettle extra used on. Made the rdc trip. Due to other high watts appliances on?
You normally have 2 rings to kitchen and separate ring for downstairs sockets
Old tech nic I use Schneider all the time for a long time anyways another one to look for is Hager sockets and switches they also look neat, lovely finish to them.
Scolmore Aquip 66 👌🏼 just can’t beat them.
I’d like to know how you connected this to a ring? Spur off spur?? Or spider webbing a radial? 🤔
rarely comment but credit where credits due this was a very very nice install, couldn't fault it
Great job nick love them Schneider Spurs and sockects speacially the ones with the neons
I keep Schneider on the van, a good range and I like the fan isolator that you can lock off with a key! Never had a faulty item yet, whether that’s just plain luck or Schneider are just reliable
We recently moved to only using schneider products. Never heard of anything too terrible going wrong with them yet
I know it's an older video mate, but advice for next time you come across that crap (and it IS literally straw used for 'reinforcement'. Use 4" 6mm screws (spax are ideal) to attach the box back to the other side of the hollow brick, and put something behind (some form of dot/dab adhesive, or if you hate the next guy, Gripfill)
2100 MA good amount of current for the usb phone shelf is dappa
15:00 Shouldn't you have put a bead of silicone on the top and sides (leaving the bottom open for drainage) of the box to direct rain away from the hole? Ideally silicone should be run around the conduit fitting before it was installed in the wall as brick will absorb water. Just asking for a friend! 😊👍
If you use click outdoor socket with seal , you haven’t got this problem
Here in the us the conduit hole in the brick would need to be caulked to prevent air and water infiltration .
Also the conduit must be sealed inside around the cables to keep air temp differences from causing condensation
Lisse USB sockets are the same depth as the regular ones... which is nice
You talk about the seal maintaining the IP rating of the outdoor socket and then put a drain hole in the bottom, surely this means it no longer has the original IP rating.
Unless water travels upwards i dont see a problem
It is always recommended to drill a drain hole out because of condensation
@@GreenHandlebar Didn't say it was a problem just pointing out that Nick was saying how the seal covering the fixing screw points maintained the IP rating then goes and destroys the IP rating by drilling a hole in it.
@@anthonyridgley1819 If condensation is a problem they should have sealed the conduit going to the inside socket to prevent the condensation causing a problem indoors.
@@martyndodds1999 are you bored or just bitter?
And now you have socket with USB-C, USB-A, with 5V, 15V, and 20V.... Next will be 30W 40W and 50W. Plenty of reasons to change sockets every 6 months atm.
Love you didn’t chop all the way to the box’s with ya chase . Little things like that for me win everyday! Helps every trade make them neat after. I’m the enemy to be fair (plumber) but keep watching your channel and artisan . Think I’m board of plumbing vids not much new out there to be honest and it’s a bus man’s holiday if ya get my drift!
What a nightmare compared to Canadian wood framed buildings...
You guys tried those new Wallaces Naggy was raving about instead of Gromits?
Why Don't you chase all the way down to the sockets? What's the purpose or benefit of leaving that little bit uncut and then use a driller?
Enjoyed this. What are the black clips that are used in the chases? Thanks
How deep are you doing chase for cable?
Just in reference to the silicone of the back of the outside socket, I was always taught to drill at abut of an angle for the outside socket that way the water can’t make its way back up and in. Eliminating the need to silicone.
True drill up from outside but still apply silicone sealant an n fashion so any water can drip down.
Mate what are those clips you're using to hold the wire? (the black ones)
Which video to watch on extending the cables to new sockets?
Hey buddy, What multi tool blade you using on masonry
The one designed for masonry
See you're in November edition of Professional Electrician (page 76) again 👌Another good job done! I'll be asking for your autograph soon buddy 😁
this is my favourite work sr
Nice job bud like the way you stopped the chases before the boxes… I always use Lessie I like the way the switches have to loop terminal for the neutrals
I like wagos 🤣
Tidy work lads.
What’s the benefit of not taking the chase to the box?
I think it was so he could secure the socket back and not hinder the plasterer,good idea I think,
Hi mate , great video. What vacuum are you using with the wall chaser
Nice job mate!!
Are there any of these back boxes for outside use which are meant to be chased like we do in Italy? Then the socket itself will have a gasket that will make a weatherproof seal on the external wall surface.
Must say I don’t mind the MK wago type sockets gotta be quicker to install.
Homes must be quite there given those walls. Here it's drywall on both sides of a hollow wall if you are lucky there's some insulation in there.
What you can hear outdoor sound through the walls there? Here all sound only comes through open windows / vents
We have a brick / cement block inner wall, then hollow cavity with insulation sheeting, then another wall of bricks on the outside, so very dense walls
I'm so glad that in Germany we use round boxes for sockets. We just drill the holes without all the hassle you have to deal with.
Why did you skip chasing? We want to see it. Did you use a chisel or disk?
were the floors concrete? and where did you spur feed cable , off downstairs ring?
So being from America we don’t have any fuse spurs or switches on our outlets. Why does every outlet come with switches on the face plates?
Not every socket. You can purchase unswitched sockets. I think it is nice thing to have though.
I would say it is because it saves having to pull out the plug if you want to turn off whatever is plugged in, also it prevents arching.
It's so you can spend a minute of so wondering if your appliance broke before you realise that you haven't switched the socket on. At least until you get used to it, which had been taking me the last 16 years and still not there...
Good video again lads. Did you do your wall chases with a multi tool? Also how did you secure the wrap around band over the oval conduit? Cheers
Why do you stop your chase a couple of inches before the back box. Am sure you have said before
They can fit switches and sockets without having to wait for the painters/plasterers
So he could 2nd fix and power it up. The plasterer can come along later fill in the chases without taking the sockets off.
I think Nick got this idea from' Luke My Trusted Electrician - Carshalton, Wallington and Coulsdon' who used to post on YT,
Looks like there's spare buttons (screw caps) on the back of the spurs as well.
a inspiration to everyone
Good work 👌🏽 lisse stuff is nice
Nice job Nick and glad to see you have a decent young fellow for an apprentice he seems to have a bit of character about him eh? which is always a plus. The job was really neat and tidy. By the by what is the antibacterial quality about the switches - am just curious as lay person? It was a pity they didn't make the shelves on top of the outlets white though as it would have looked really smick.
Lovely neat job.
Can flexible and single core cable be used in this oval conduit?
A very long horizontal chase has decreased load bearing capacity of wall. The vertical chase is not as critical as this horizontal one is. It would have been best to go under the boards.
Shut it. Its in the zone
Based on the shots Adam provided the long chase is only in the plaster thickness rather than the wall itself. Can't see any loss in strength in this case.... Maybe if was part way through the brick, especially if likely to be loaded by earthquakes or similar with horizontal movement, but not relevant in the uk
What sort of bit do you use for the multi tool when cutting out the box in plaster?
just a fine tooth wood one works for plaster(board)
I just cut new 'teeth' into worn out ones with the grinder.
Do u ever do commercial far tidier
The plug in LEDs for the Schneider stuff looks very much like the stuff Nico have been doing for a while
Why do you need a drain hole if it’s IP rated?
I was under the impression, when the drain hole is used, the IP rating is no longer the same. Does it change with different manufacturers?
Absolutely it will, it was a sealed box before, now water can enter from below, especially should someone be jet washing outside.
Water won’t get in from below but condensation will drain out.
Could have asked Tom Nagy if you could borrow his new toy to chase out the walls and sockets :)
Conduit passed through, ? Have you not seen the latest efixx educational about running circuits through cavity?,apprrently, not appropriate with building regs 🤔
Great video 😎
Brilliant
24:34 How can the charging cable go in the phone when its upright? Without damaging the cable, surely it needs to be upside down then
Lay the phone on its side?
upside-down. often screen rotates with it anyway
Obviously put your phone on a table or something next to the socket lol you don't rest it on top of the socket
Very good
You didn't cover the massive hole you drilled for the external socket
Hi mate that hay stuff could be Asbestos just say could be
Only Iphone users will use the USB from the sockets, Android have the super dupper fast chargers which don`t work with that lazy USB from sockets
It’s like Nick has never seen an outside socket before 😂
Nick you can get the tower oval clips for the conduit for the chases
Where he get those clips? Looks like all around band but its not
@@daviddurnan3849 screwfix the conduit just clips in. Easier an no messing bending the band
25mm boxes, earthed to the socket, hours spent with careful chasing when it's being plastered anyway, come on bud, chop chop
"And one of these does help as well. That's quite useful". Is that a burn for the ex-apprentice or a compliment? Was Adam rehired....again? LOL Carry on Adam.
11x 22 clips mate
Pattress = Metal knock out box
Nice one
Phone shelf would have looked good on the double socket with the chipped out plaster as it’d have hidden the damage.
Why the fused spur?
Nice chasing and box cutting!
So they can switch it off and stop everyone using your lecky
I thought that was the reason, dodgy theiving neighbours 😠, hope they don't forget when they go on holiday for 2 weeks!
Also good habit to put everything outside on a fused spur from inside, so if water somehow does get in something and start tripping the RCD/RCBO it can be isolated locally, to keep the rest of the circuit working while waiting to get it fixed.
Can you have this job for me
7:43 noice 😎
Oh. So they copied legrand with the modular leds/neon
I know you domestic boys despise this , but I fitter a commercial led, circular fitting with eml back up,, best thing I did,, being old, needing at least x1 piss every night, the minuscule green led lights up all the escape routes , with clarity, costing Fack-all,,
Adam would have said he liked them on camera but he wasn’t getting paid.
Adam would benefit from some fault finding unless you dont video these faults.
if thats your best job ever if I were you I would give up and leave it to proper electricians to show you how to do it
Always one isn’t there
C’mon use 35mm boxes