This Seems Crazy. But It Taught Me Something

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  • Опубликовано: 10 ноя 2024

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  • @theordinary1059
    @theordinary1059 3 года назад +42

    I think one of the reasons why hobbies can be so healthy and enjoyable is because it disconnects us from our ego. Let's say you're fishing, you're sitting out on a lake in a boat. When you are in that moment just focusing on exactly where you are, immersed in the beautiful scenery, who's observing that event? It doesn't matter if you're a famous celebrity or a college student who's struggling to get by, when you're completely in that moment you just exist. You don't have to be someone, you don't have to live up to your or anyone else's expectations, you're just a person on a boat.
    Or when you get captivated watching an amazing sunset, what does it matter if you're rich or homeless, if you're seeing it that's all there is to it. Having a hobby that takes us back into true reality, one that removes all of the mental constructs we have set up regarding ourselves and the rest of the world - is freeing.

    • @DailyStoic
      @DailyStoic  3 года назад

      Especially when the hobby humbles you because it is hard.

    • @theordinary1059
      @theordinary1059 3 года назад

      @@DailyStoic Exactly. We all struggle under the sun. And to have that pure form of gradual learning that's often times very slow and requires loads of trail and error, perhaps somthing like learning to play the piano, it sets us all back to zero and cuts through all the bullshit. No matter who we are or where we are in our life.

  • @tadehtt5997
    @tadehtt5997 3 года назад +2

    I rarely comment on videos, that being said I do want to thank you for the valuable contents that you have created.
    As Alan Watts said, the point of the dance is the dance itself, it is not to land on a specific position or location.

  • @JeanneKnits
    @JeanneKnits 3 года назад +15

    I'm a knitter, and it's a meditative practice, very rhythmic. Knitters are generally either product or process knitters. I have a need to knit, even though I don't always care about the product I create. Just give it away to family and friends. Sometimes I do want the sweater, or shawl or whatever, but the process is at least 50% of the practice. It's very calming. And my friends and family get to wear hand-knit socks!!

    • @Lollipup-Toffee
      @Lollipup-Toffee Год назад

      That’s the same as me and crochet! I have made so many things, and I still make more, it’s about the process!

  • @professorgoat7393
    @professorgoat7393 3 года назад +45

    “The pointlessness is the point” and I will defend my hobbies. I will no longer question “why” I bought a drone and study METARs for my Part 107.

  • @18Bees
    @18Bees 3 года назад +20

    Oh man it’s true. I magnet fish and practice an odd style of beekeeping. Both hobbies get me into nature where I can meditate, calm down, and stop worrying about tomorrow and not allow my joy to be robbed today.

    • @michaelpulley1415
      @michaelpulley1415 3 года назад

      I agree with those statements. Hobbies can put us in a calm state, much needed lots of times. Also beekeeping, I love that, working with nature.

  • @lisaedmunds2500
    @lisaedmunds2500 3 года назад +8

    This is so important. Thank you Ryan for reminding me that not everything needs to lead to something. 👌

  • @roopalivs6782
    @roopalivs6782 3 года назад +9

    Hobbies are /can be therapeutic too.... like knitting, sewing, gardening etc. ✔️🤘🏽👐

  • @greyone40
    @greyone40 3 года назад +4

    "If you exhaust the mind, it breaks." (Seneca) Never heard that one before. Interesting. The importance of taking a breather if you are stuck on a problem, just go away and do something else, or even drop it until the next day, to come back fresh.

  • @eashwarmurthy
    @eashwarmurthy 3 года назад +31

    You know who you are when no one is watching you and
    how you spend your free time tells a lot about what you value.

    • @18Bees
      @18Bees 3 года назад +1

      if i go missing nobody will think twice because they'll just assume i'm out in the woods with the bees. 😂

  • @donhuntsberger9153
    @donhuntsberger9153 3 года назад +1

    I have had several things I do, having done them for years, pipe smoking, target shooting, and hiking. What I do with these things is not what I make of them, but what they tell me about myself. Surprising about the metaphor used by Stoics regarding archery. Target shooting is about how the process brings me to focus, that only part of the total goal is within my control. Magnet fishing, what an idea.

  • @RobbsHomemadeLife
    @RobbsHomemadeLife 3 года назад +6

    I used to have a small sailboat. As soon as I was aboard and was sailing away from shore I felt my mind shift and become separate from my thoughts ashore. I entered a different world.

  • @mexicanusrex9418
    @mexicanusrex9418 3 года назад +7

    I draw. I draw because it allows me to escape this reality. It allows me to concentrate, to be patient. It allows me to think about the decisions that I have to make when I'm making a portrait. Of course there is a result. The result is to create the best work that I can while I'm having fun. Fun is the essence of it all.

  • @thelastchimp
    @thelastchimp 3 года назад +11

    thank you, in a rut recently and this really helped

    • @Sh0n0
      @Sh0n0 3 года назад +1

      Yor welcome

  • @JoePacheco
    @JoePacheco 3 года назад +1

    So true. I find leisure activities like walks, biking, drawing, making music and video games. Many people think video games are a waste of time but I use it to escape, free my mind and it allows me to get into a flow or meditative state which often helps me process the day and helps me get past obstacles. The challenge is not beating yourself up about it 🙃

  • @uberdonkey9721
    @uberdonkey9721 Год назад

    Reminds me of why I loved surfing so much. You'll see even high level competitive surfers, go surfing on holiday. They don't want to 'win' something, and the competition side is so artificial. Myself, I was surfing one day, feeling frsutrated because waves weren't very big, and I saw two adolescents having the greatest fun. Suddenly I realised I'd turned something fun into something where I had to gain something. Suddenly I switched off and just had fun, and a huge smile returned to my face. The best life is a fun life. Need to get this in all my life.

  • @michaelpulley1415
    @michaelpulley1415 3 года назад

    Hobbies are extremely important, puts us in a calm state much needed during stress in our life. I see it as an act of mindfulness. For me my hobbies are working out, reading, learning other languages, and watching films with friends.

  • @luzmphipps4203
    @luzmphipps4203 3 года назад +2

    Divine morning Ryan Holiday, thank you for sharing this activity with your son, the best gift you are giving to your Divine Son.
    My morning habits are spending time with Nature, reading, journaling, practicing self-love, and most importantly Running which make me feel alive. I can go for hours during my walking explorations. Getting ready now for a walk around my neighborhood, despite the snow on the ground. Thanks, Ryan Holiday.

  • @krisl.4314
    @krisl.4314 3 года назад

    « Don’t turn it into a job »
    I really needed to hear that! Very helpful insights that I think will help me enjoy my hobby without trying to « perform »

  • @stephenholland3801
    @stephenholland3801 3 года назад +2

    I had a lot to do yesterday. I needed to wrap Christmas presents and a few other things. But it was my first day off in quite a while. I spent a lot of it playing StarCraft 2. My struggle is getting past the guilt of not being productive. Thank you for this video.

    • @M13asan
      @M13asan 3 года назад +2

      Its all good to play games for yourself too. Especially if it was your first day off in a while. Do everything in balance - something I am working on as well! Happy holidays everyone

    • @stephenholland3801
      @stephenholland3801 3 года назад +1

      @@M13asan, merry Christmas!

  • @sgt.grinch3299
    @sgt.grinch3299 3 года назад

    Motorcycle riding is very relaxing and at the same time it is very intense. All of your senses are on fire as you move through time and space. The sights, sounds, and feeling refresh my soul.

  • @SamMartinPeakPerformance
    @SamMartinPeakPerformance 3 года назад +35

    I think 2020 showed a lot of people they don’t actually have any hobbies... anyone else find this sad?

    • @KnowledgeSeeker78491
      @KnowledgeSeeker78491 3 года назад +1

      My hobby has been watching RUclips

    • @Ana-jf1ch
      @Ana-jf1ch 3 года назад +2

      Yes,it looks like buying things are their main hobby!

    • @ifkq
      @ifkq 3 года назад +1

      @@KnowledgeSeeker78491 Cool. How do you feel about this hobby? Do you feel it brings benefits related to this video?

    • @DailyStoic
      @DailyStoic  3 года назад +3

      Yes...they are afraid of stillness.

    • @KnowledgeSeeker78491
      @KnowledgeSeeker78491 3 года назад +1

      @@ifkq Yes... It's something to look into

  • @RapIndulgent
    @RapIndulgent 3 года назад

    A good reminder to those of us so caught up in our ambitions and / or the busyness of life! Much needed, Ryan, thank you

  • @atanugayen3030
    @atanugayen3030 3 года назад

    Nothing defines you and establishes your being more authentically, than what you do without reason, want or need; external or internal; biological, social or otherwise.
    A practice/activity you engage in regularly, without any expectations, without any reason, but for its own sake; one the most important things you can do to keep yourself sane this world.

  • @heathrunyon4036
    @heathrunyon4036 3 года назад +4

    Hiking is my hobby where I can practice gratitude and solitude.

  • @ThePermacultureStudent
    @ThePermacultureStudent 3 года назад +2

    Work Hard, Play Hard. It's such a key dichotomy.

  • @makichandes
    @makichandes 3 года назад

    Now I understand why I had to find another hobby once my hubs started making orders for my handknit sweaters! It wasn't leisure anymore. Once I sold a painting I suddenly didn't feel like painting anymore.

  • @MissyQ12345
    @MissyQ12345 2 года назад

    I am an old woman and new to this philosophy. I find it fascinating, and it resonates with my understanding of life. I must say that music is a hobby to me, even tho I don't play an instrument. I have songs in my head all the time and make up songs about what I might be doing at the moment. When something goes wrong, I start singing about it. It helps me soothe any anger I might feel and makes it disappear because it is useless. What I learned today is that I want to pick up the guitar someone gave me and just start playing -- make mistakes and laugh at how bad I will be. But I have music in my soul all the time. Just sayin'.

  • @ryanluby3044
    @ryanluby3044 3 года назад +1

    These videos are awesome and getting better consistently, keep them coming! Great work

  • @ThePermacultureStudent
    @ThePermacultureStudent 3 года назад +5

    I find leisure is much harder to make habitual than hard work especially in our current world.

  • @steves3422
    @steves3422 3 года назад +1

    Well done. My hobby does all of this and glad to have some re-enforcement that does not need to lead to something, such as $, recognition, etc. Thank You!

  • @chrisherb3300
    @chrisherb3300 3 года назад +2

    Don't think "just" hearing music isn't a real, practical hobby, because you would be wrong with this opinion.
    It's like everything else in someone's life, it's (power it can give you, is) about how you handle it and use it actively for.
    I'm listening to (dark) ambient music, with or without beat, but always without lyrics/few spoken words, because that kind of music wants to induce specific feelings in the listener and I rather prefer to choose mine.
    There's ambient music for any situation in your life out there and listening to it actively, with your heart and soul, supports an inner strength and power of will, that is uplifting, clearing, healing, focusing and whatever else you are longing for.
    Just give it a try, its about what you're making out of it. 😉

  • @reggiegarcia07
    @reggiegarcia07 3 года назад

    This was an incredible message, and one that I think many people need to hear nowadays.

  • @HussainBuAdam
    @HussainBuAdam 3 года назад

    Good times always, Ryan 👊🏼

  • @Cody-gj8kf
    @Cody-gj8kf 3 года назад

    I just have to say I love all of your videos and I realize what you're talking about is what I learned in child development which is understanding children's play you should look into that it's really fascinating to understand the value of play for children

  • @pukus123
    @pukus123 3 года назад

    Playing with a deck of cards alone and learning magic tricks with it really brought back the inner-child in me during this lockdown :D

  • @_drowsytundra_2881
    @_drowsytundra_2881 3 года назад

    I’ve been loving these more personal videos coming out. It makes me feel more attentive when listening to your other videos. Also I need to find the music in these videos!

  • @astewart9410
    @astewart9410 3 года назад

    I play guitar at leisure. Just let the notes come on their own. Relaxing, meditative, and sometimes new ideas break through!

  • @dallasjohnson4378
    @dallasjohnson4378 3 года назад

    I like the message for sure. I hate to be a kill joy, but not so keen on magnet fishing as an activity because of the potential for disrupting aquatic habitat (e.g. spawning beds). I"m sure there are places where this can be done without impacting the environment...just need to make sure to only practice in those places.

  • @mattmatimateo
    @mattmatimateo 3 года назад +9

    I would appreciate if you removed your video from 'Ghost Town Living' channel, we don't want your content there, we will be reporting it until it gets deleted. Please continue posting your content only here, we don't need that on the other channel, thank you.

  • @arknal
    @arknal 3 года назад

    Don't forget "A River Runs Through It" is about the wisdom of fly-fishing, epic film.

  • @breakthroughs7144
    @breakthroughs7144 3 года назад

    Thanks Ryan Holiday!, Blessings

  • @roopalivs6782
    @roopalivs6782 3 года назад +1

    Agreed Mr Ryan 👍🏾💯..... but wen you mentioned listening to music etc cannot be a hobby... yes dats true.... hobby and pass time are not the same thing.... very few know that.

  • @vozestoica8436
    @vozestoica8436 3 года назад +3

    This is the happiest man on earth

  • @makaylahollywood3677
    @makaylahollywood3677 3 года назад

    Life is adventure. I was always creating or using my imagination as a child..even, searching for creatures in a pond- i find my ability to imagine is powerful; for the good or not so good. Imagine a better way. Allowing one's self to explore without judgment is so freeing and innocent. The surprise of what you might get is like Christmas morning, or the awaited birthday present. Magnet Fishing: surprise.

  • @stevefaulkner6689
    @stevefaulkner6689 2 года назад

    My Grandson and I enjoy magnet fishing very interesting and somewhat exciting

  • @Cocobird5
    @Cocobird5 3 года назад

    Thank you -- this was very helpful.

  • @sventhemoose1218
    @sventhemoose1218 3 года назад

    One of your best videos. Thank you.

  • @LoveRackett
    @LoveRackett 3 года назад

    Merry Christmas my man friend

  • @anothergoogleuser
    @anothergoogleuser 3 года назад

    Outstanding. Thanks for sharing.

  • @SuperVanlian
    @SuperVanlian 3 года назад

    Just a beautiful message

  • @oldtrafford-u6o
    @oldtrafford-u6o 3 года назад

    "Leisure should be pointless." 👌👌👌

  • @lover5012
    @lover5012 3 года назад

    Honest opinion.
    I was thinking enouph youube for now, so i thought ok, let's watch these two last youtube videos. From the two, your one was the least favoured. The one i was most anticipating was the other one., your i clicked out of simple curiosity. So i started watching the first, and it was okay i guess. Then, from the early minutes or so, i felt suprised. You had me captivated, and without realizing i started feeling my note pad with ideas on your video.
    Very inspiring. Thanks for uploading, and thanks for reminding me the importance of don't judge too early, or don't judge at all actually.
    Happy and strong X-mas to all.

  • @maxezaz7694
    @maxezaz7694 3 года назад +48

    May Allah bless and keep healthy whoever is reading this. :)

  • @paullanglois3768
    @paullanglois3768 3 года назад +3

    Ryan is just a shill for Big Magnet!
    But seriously, great and inspiring video.

  • @wrifraff
    @wrifraff 3 года назад +5

    You may want to talk to your editor, they uploaded your video to the wrong channel.

  • @jasoncox8244
    @jasoncox8244 3 года назад

    I build scale models. Sci-fi ships, spacecraft, aircraft, armor. I love losing myself in the details, the research to make them accurate, the art of it. Scale modeling, reading, shooting and astronomy. I realize now that I’m a bit odd😂

  • @GarryBurgess
    @GarryBurgess 3 года назад

    The latin word "scola" comes from the ancient greek word for leisure - σχολή (transliterated skola with long A at the end)

  • @aaronwimberleymbamsf5776
    @aaronwimberleymbamsf5776 3 года назад

    Thanks- this is great and very useful during these times=]

  • @lordDEEEZ
    @lordDEEEZ 3 года назад

    There is knowledge everywhere you seek it

  • @dewildeworld6766
    @dewildeworld6766 3 года назад +3

    I disagree I do physical training as my main hobby. It focuses the mind on a goal other than my daily life. Do I attain a benefit each time?,yes on multiple levels undeniably every time. I may be missing the point, but I do love it.

  • @soulrevolution07
    @soulrevolution07 3 года назад

    thanks!

  • @doctorpete1
    @doctorpete1 3 года назад

    Awesome!

  • @LoveRackett
    @LoveRackett 3 года назад

    Christmas story
    The story of how I started the Interational Stoic Man Friends Group was dealing with friends that were struggling with some of the issues of life. After much thought, I decided to start the page as a place to share, encourage and provoke one another to strive for a higher way and excellence in this life. The page turned into a group, "The International Stoic Man Friends" group, to which ladies are also welcome. I originally wanted to be the father of this group, but became the founder instead. One morning while meditating, a notification from President Donald Trump's Facebook page came to my attention, I had been paying a lot of attention to the presidential race. Shortly thereafter, I recieved a notification from Ringo Star, with his beautiful song, "Here's to the Night"...I am in his fan club, the song had about 30,000 views and was going viral. The song seemed so universally fitting to everyone's situation right now. Knowing that President Donald Trump and Ringo Starr are both very accomplished as well as stoic, I made the card for Mr. Trump, in great appreciation for his service, written in the fashion of the 4 agreements and the logic of Stoicism creating accomplished people and signed by myself, the father and founder of Stoic Man Friends Group. I also wrote Ringo a letter thanking him for the best song. He gave me a heart. This is a real story of stoicism and the 4 agreements and how potent these lessons are, as well as the perfect example of Man Friends. As a result, the US President, Donald J. Trump posted Ringo Starr's song, "Here's to the Night', for the people, that's cool!! I am extremely happy, it's a great example of Stoic friends and the hidden power of Stoicism and the 4 agreements.
    This is a real story of Stoicism, the 4 agreements and the power of the lessons therein. Ultimately, President Donald J. Trump posted Ringo's song for the American people on the President's national post. I am now the founder of the International Stoic Man Friends Group, Ladies are welcome too. I like to think that we are government approved. I am wearing a red "Start a Revolution " ring on my picture icon, which is a gift from Ann Wilson of Heart; I am her fan. I thought I should let her know, so I sent her a card saying, "I'm working on that Revolution ". She sent me a heart ❤ Ann is Stoic and her "Start a Revolution " ring is now on the President's post, also "American Rock Royalty ". I am extremely happy it is a good example of Stoic Friends and a beautiful song, Thank you my friends your friend Chance
    Acting Vice President Christina Vestal.

  • @ErnestRamaj
    @ErnestRamaj 3 года назад

    Very well done.

  • @vivahvv
    @vivahvv 3 года назад

    Thanks Ryan. If one has an idea about what you have put forth, how does one share it with you directly? I have nothing to sell, but would enjoy extending the thesis you have put forward.

  • @carlcandiano1517
    @carlcandiano1517 3 года назад

    Great video

  • @ferguswood2832
    @ferguswood2832 3 года назад +1

    maybe im being discursive or arbitrary, but I used to watch a lot of Alan Watts. His description of the "dance" of life is synonymous of the "point" of leisure being "pointlessness" in my opinion.

  • @joegatton1340
    @joegatton1340 3 года назад +1

    Would playing video games fall into this? I was always sort of shamed for playing when I was younger.

  • @legomaestro2079
    @legomaestro2079 3 года назад

    I'm on the other side of the fence now artwise, desperately trying to find some footing and level up and impress and it's quite a miserable slog. I do remember several phases in life where I was just drawing obsessively for myself in every situation, and it's not something you really feel until in hindsight but I was truly, very well at peace and I daresay it was when I was at my most creative. I want to turn my art back into a pointless hobby and keep it there for a while, I think I'd rather fuel my soul than burn it up on a Sisyphean struggle for recognition from outside.

  • @DefeatLust
    @DefeatLust 3 года назад

    I like this guy

  • @ispirarecoffee
    @ispirarecoffee 3 года назад

    Ryan what’s your bed magent catch?

  • @vikinginger1889
    @vikinginger1889 3 года назад

    What about videogames? I don't do it to show off. I just do it for me. I find it very relaxing and disconnecting from the world and it's stress.

  • @morkan17
    @morkan17 3 года назад

    I just realized my hobby isnt really a hobby, playing wow but always stressing about some ingame systems that you have to keep doing daily and pushing it to the max, guild dramas, ilvl war to the point that when i don't play i feel guilty for lagging behind the carrot on stick. Thats a job i pay for. Gonna ditch it and pickup a guitar or something, thank you sir

  • @Santiino
    @Santiino 3 года назад +1

    What if the hobby, which you do for yourself and its pointlessness turn to a job or you get the the chance to make money from it? Should you accept that? It is kinda confusing to think about because a job can easily be also a hobby.

  • @Kaalokalawaia
    @Kaalokalawaia 3 года назад +1

    I have SOOOOOO many hobbies. Actually a bit of a problem for me.

  • @Luverofmysoul2
    @Luverofmysoul2 3 года назад +5

    Could labyrinth walking be a hobby?

  • @Californiansurfer
    @Californiansurfer 3 года назад

    Surfing with Sartre I hope you find book. Surfing is my hobby

  • @Urspo
    @Urspo 3 года назад

    Lol I first heard this as MAGA fishing. You do a fine job with these thank you sir

  • @gabrielfraga1742
    @gabrielfraga1742 3 года назад

    Your hair is better than ever

  • @vozestoica8436
    @vozestoica8436 3 года назад +2

    Live in the forest is undervalued

    • @18Bees
      @18Bees 3 года назад

      I get into the forest almost on a daily basis to go hunting for honeybee nests. very soothing and calming.

    • @vozestoica8436
      @vozestoica8436 3 года назад +1

      @@18Bees with the dogs 👌

    • @18Bees
      @18Bees 3 года назад +1

      @@vozestoica8436 oops. my dog just looked up at me.

  • @fangdanian
    @fangdanian 3 года назад

    How about listening to Ryan Holiday discuss Stoicism.

  • @justaworkingbloke6537
    @justaworkingbloke6537 3 года назад

    Making silloute boxes is one of my pointless pursuits. I usually give them away as gifts.

  • @kathleenwilkinson1742
    @kathleenwilkinson1742 Год назад

    I hope please that i have been reading making baskets. Learned long time ago. Icant place where you are or city. Hope you are doing well. Its very
    Hot or warm today. Working on spanish.
    Kathleen

  • @ScottyBennitone
    @ScottyBennitone 3 года назад +8

    keep your political BS off the ghost town living channel please.

    • @Gta2O13
      @Gta2O13 3 года назад

      Brent works for this fuck-O

  • @henrybarnard644
    @henrybarnard644 3 года назад

    magnetic

  • @Californiansurfer
    @Californiansurfer 3 года назад

    Any bodies

  • @fitfrog65
    @fitfrog65 3 года назад

    walking

  • @HussainBuAdam
    @HussainBuAdam 3 года назад

    I wanna party with Cato 🍷🍶🥳

  • @pradeepshirur5435
    @pradeepshirur5435 3 года назад +1

    Be a vegetarian don't hunt or kill that should be the base of all philosophy.

  • @LoveRackett
    @LoveRackett 3 года назад

    I'm inviting you my friend to my Facebook group. International stoic man friend group ladies welcome

  • @Gta2O13
    @Gta2O13 3 года назад +1

    Hopefully is was a Covid Christmas

  • @frncscbtncrt
    @frncscbtncrt 3 года назад

    No Covid absurd message from you today.. maybe I’ll watch again then

  • @Dacademeca
    @Dacademeca 3 года назад +2

    Dont get me wrong, I really admire Ryan Holiday, but one thing I dont like about him is that he fishes, poor fishes.

    • @DailyStoic
      @DailyStoic  3 года назад +1

      Jesus fished.

    • @Dacademeca
      @Dacademeca 3 года назад +1

      @@DailyStoic also jesus is an excuse, just because he is worshipped doesnt mean he is all good.

  • @johnmcandrew852
    @johnmcandrew852 3 года назад

    Do not doing. Sabbath.

  • @caeligratia6706
    @caeligratia6706 3 года назад

    σχολη

  • @agrxdrowflow958
    @agrxdrowflow958 3 года назад

    Watching RUclips videos is my hobby. Pointless.

  • @arthurgiroux484
    @arthurgiroux484 3 года назад +11

    Investing in crypto now should be in every wise individuals list, in some months time you 'll be ecstatic with the decision you made today.

    • @kelvinwalter763
      @kelvinwalter763 3 года назад

      Most intelligent words I've heard.,

    • @abigailtyrone5233
      @abigailtyrone5233 3 года назад

      Crypto is the new gold

    • @antoniomark7974
      @antoniomark7974 3 года назад

      I wanted to trade Crypto but got discouraged by the fluctuations in price

    • @user-tx1ij4xv9j
      @user-tx1ij4xv9j 3 года назад

      @@antoniomark7974 That won't bother you if you trade with a professional like Mr harry noble

    • @crypt0yoda..1-70
      @crypt0yoda..1-70 3 года назад

      I heard that this strategies are really good