FURY At SHARED New Night Elf City & The Year Long Content Drought About To Start... Xmas Special!
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World of Warcraft Dragonflight gets ready for a January 2024 launch for new patch 10.2.5 which will see the return of Gilneas and new Night Elf Capital Bel'Ameth open and playable... and shared between Horde and Alliance. People aren't happy. We also take a look at a potential whole year of no new raid and ask... will there be enough to do?
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Guys the Bellular joke is literally just that Bel'Ameth sounds like Bell on Meth, hence the HILARIOUS picture of Bell with lots of meth. Ot really is that silly and childish. To be clear, he is not really on meth. He hasn't really let himself go. It was just silly wordplay. There is no beef, all is well :)
Made my jaw drop for a second there.
i rarely comment on YT videos but I hard to even pause to laugh at the Bel'Ameth joke. Genius.
so btw, since the Alliance helped to save Orgrimmar more than once, and also the horde itself more than once, they can also enter every single of their major cities?
makes sense right? right??
blizz if you like the horde so much just end the alliance, its getting stupid at this point...
I knew the bellular comment was all in good fun from the get go. However the comments about Pyromancer you made on stream are distasteful. I don't care much about the guy myself but I thought you were better than that. I thought more of you. Not that you'll give a crap what some random internet person has to say about it.
@@audiofun1Pyro what? Ahh you mean the toxic beggar.
Hey Tali! I raid with Bit Like Immortalis. Thanks so much for the shout out. I was genuinely watching logs and stuff for the race progress, haha. It was a fun race and I'm super proud of our team, even if half of them don't know who you are 😁
OH! Just what I always wanted! The last 3 Dreamwardens tabard I needed to finish wallpapering the living room!
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Uff you really need a 2omen
I got each of my Snorr a tabard
Oh that is so Dreamwardens tabard. Now if you'll excuse me, I am feeling a bit Dreamwardens tabardy, so I am going to Dreamwardens tabard right over to the Dreamwardens tabard and Dreamwardens tabard a few Dreamwardens tabards.
Dreamwardens tabard.
Not going to lie, my mage would love a Jaina transmog, in various colours
You only ever get one color! Don't be greedy... ;-)
You will get Blue, and you will like Blue, F*ck your other specs.
The modern Jaina mog and the modern Thrall mog plssssss
Frost mages would be so happy with that 👌
I like how not only someone have the gumption and humor to create a guild called "Bit Like Immortalis", but that it actually turns out to repeatedly prove itself as a pretty good raiding guild for many years now.
The "Thrall, Thrall, Thrall, Thrall, Thrall" joke killed me 🥰
I'm gonna use the time to play other stuff and maybe do some Legion campaigns. Class campaigns should've become the very first 'evergreen' feature imo.
100% yes
I kind of hope the cross-faction visitor status is a start for that being implemented on other cities. Like as long as you don't have War Mode on, you can visit any city, but still not be able to use their portals or fly paths.
The visiting system in the city also leads into the whole "Removing the faction war" they've been talking about constantly, and given the themes of the next three expansions, it wouldnt be a surprise that they will slowly remove it all together. Its an alliance city, that allows horde to visit. And I'm sure horde will get the same later.
As a mostly Horde player I would love that. Because if your friendly in a Horde city as an Alliance perhaps then the annoying pvpler finally vanish who just kill NPCs and annoy the people here who just want to use those NPCs.... And they clearly just want to "pwn" some Hordler because otherwise they would just go into War Mode and not just go to the opposite city. Especially on a server that is about 90% Alliance and 10% Horde...
That would probably be Silvermoon.
@@meh23p silvermoon with a new update (whole area is still stuck in BC lol) or undercity imo
@@Valfara770 Alliance get the same annoying PvPers from Horde. It's just the typical PvPer being a jerk thing regardless of faction.
The faction war was what I loved :( it's not warcraft anymore it's World of Friendship and Understanding..
I think the year will be fine :) also, from one dad to another, Tali… level a druid. Because my 5 year old daughter LOOOOOVES playing my druid and shifting between bird, orca, cat, glowy bear, and tree form in old world zones where she won’t get attacked
I'm guessing that Evitel's stated affection for sleeping has something to do with the fact that, as a young mother, she probably doesn't get a chance to do it all that often. (Hang in there. Only 15 years until University 😄)
Can't wait to see the response to Silvermoon being neutral in the future. Plus if it's neutral... it means it can be used *way* more than a faction specific area.
Silvermoon makes more sense. The high elves weren't quite as xenophobic and isolationist as the nelves.
@@Kiraleen22 They were also an official part of the Alliance of Lordaeron at one point, and have been allied with the Horde for a comparatively small amount of time.
@@killerbee.13 And we know that expac 2/3 will focus on the elves in general, and the sunwell, I think it's a sign it'll happen. Also, I just ran the Sunwell raid lastnight for some transmogs, and Valen[I think] does his little speech at the end, some things he says made me wonder about the elves future in general, now that we have multiple factions/races of them featured in the game/stories
We all know that the town, nay, village that truly needs to be cross faction is Goldshire.
I'll see myself out.
I am alliance but I want that set for my void elf hunter.
As for the Night Elf city drama. I do agree that it makes no sense. The "what's better for the future" its quite irrelevant when we deal with people that where just done with burning your family to death, trying to commit genocide on your race, burning down something as precious as a world tree... Then a few years later them inviting the horde over for some tea. No, it makes no sense. If this was 3 generations (let's say) down the line, I could see it, right after all that insanity? Nop.
Even in the face of a planet-ending existential threat?
@@wildbill7289 You mean the yearly planet-ending existential threat? Yeah I think everyone is used to it by now its not a big deal anymore.
Like, I get it. You want everyone to see the shiny new city. I get it they are all about "renewal."
Just seems weird, knowing that the Horde are only walking around this fancy new Night Elf home because they burned the NE's last one to the ground.
But it was just Morally Gray Sylvanas TM /s
Just waiting for the n+10th retcon
Yea, its bad, but at the same time, could they be redeemed a little because they also help build and defend it with us? I think so. I think it's great that the night elf lands are becoming sacred, even to the hordies.
@@donovan1345 it would have made more sense if they didn't let horde to step foot on their new land but don't attack the horde. It makes no sense to invite the murderers to your home. Horde also doesn't invite alliance players in horde cities lol. Neutral cities are a different topic like dalaran or vakdrakken since they fight together for a common goal
They didn't. Sylvania did.
The problem with Amirdrasil being horde accessible is that Ruins of Lordaeron isn't, and the horde keeps getting away with destroying major alliance cities. (Theramore, Teldrassil), they also got let back into Dalaran despite the fact they abused it's neutral status to aid the horde and ambush and nuke Theramore. It very much feels like the Horde got away with everything scot free. The Horde also got back their lost city first, despite the fact they caused it's destruction themselves.
Welcome to wow... yeah, it sucks :'(
Yeah you right Wow is very horse friendly right know
The Horde didn't "get away with" destroying Teldrassil, they lost the Undercity to the Alliance as a result and destroyed it in an attempt to kill Anduin and keep the Alliance from taking control of it. The Alliance alsp KILLED King Rastakhan, and tore up the Zandalari capital city after destroying most of its navy. The entire Zandalar story is about the FALL of the Zandalari from power, and the entire Kul'Tiras story is about its RISE to reclaim its power from troubled times.
The Horde didn't "get away with" Theramore, a whole rebellion started to overthrow Garrosh and Jaina killed a ton of innocent or uninvolved blood elves in Dalaran and kicked the Horde out of the Kirin Tor. Only a couple elves in Dalaran actually knew what happened, and most of them just didn't want to get involved in the drama and potentially die or be exiled from their faction for saying something. The rest didn't know what happened and innocent merchants and citizens got killed and evicted. There's an entire raid for Orgrimmar where you slaughter hundreds of Horde soldiers who let this stuff happen, and Garrosh was killed for his crimes.
The Horde didn't get away with everything, the PLAYERS did(and players were actively fighting against these things with rebellions later in the story). I don't think punishing players for chosing to play a faction is a good idea.
The new city being shared IS dumb and its also underwhelming compared to Darnassus, but you've clearly got some alliance favoritism bias going on.
I'm not gonna argue that the story is worse though, shit is getting boring and preachy as hell.
Cause the Horde are the best
You Jelly?
They also got to keep Orgrimmar after SoO in MoP. And the Alliance hasn't gotten back Southshore. Also Theramore.
Good on you for your perspective on the relative openness of Belameth.
The Night Elves still hold Hyjal*
*State of the world not represented in game
Sadly
Seeing as how Night Elf culture is dominated by Druidism and nature in general, it makes sense that some members of the Horde would be allowed into the new city. Archdruid Hamuul Runetotem for example would be one of those exceptions. I’ve always felt like the Night Elves were always adjacent to the Alliance, allied but not directly involved in its politics, similar to the Forsaken. This means that it makes more sense for the Night Elves to have a little more autonomy and can govern themselves as they wish. On the other hand, the Forsaken can do the same and possibly allow living humans who once lived in the Kingdom of Lordaeron back into the Undercity.
If they want to give us other famous character outfits I vote for Rexxar's!
I would actually love a Rexxar or Vol'jin look, that would be sick
I want that trenchcoat some Gilnean's and Kul Tirans wear.
I’m fine with the pseudo neutrality we have, so long as Sylvanas is never allowed in. She can go hang out with the gnolls.
2024 is the 20 year anniversary for WoW. I’ll take a year of ho-hum if it means that November 2024 will be absolutely bonkers! Patience is truly a virtue.
I know theres people that dont care, but im very much enjoying the “broader” WoW universe. Playing retail, wrath classic, and season of discovery, even in full raid log mode im still pretty busy 😂 there may be a content drought in retail, but theres new stuff in SoD. When that hits a lull, ruby sanctum will come out. Or 10.2.5. Basically by rotating through these 3 versions of the game i am kept well occupied 😁
It blows my mind that a complete but empty Gilneas existed in game for 13 years before finally being populated now.. even though Gilneas was taken back years ago on the lore. Bout darn time! (Laughs in Gnomeregan)
I think the London analogy is very apt, in part because, yes, right now Bel'Ameth (and I presume Gilneas) will be the only city(ies) that both factions can enter. But also, those are the only two capital cities that have received major development (yes Undercity is no longer plagued but only the entrance is accessible atm so I'm not really counting it) since the end of the 4th War. Lore-wise, I would feel comfortable assuming that NElfs can walk through Orgrimmar, if while being watched by guards, and Taurens can make a visit to their friend in Ironforge. Neither of those cities, nor any other faction capital, has had major work done on them since the end of the 4th War. Even DURING the 4th, if you avoid military installations most of Boralus and Dazar'alor could be walked around in by the other faction. Whether the other faction SHOULD be able to walk around faction capitals can be a discussion, but I think complaints that it's JUST Belameth (and presumably Gilneas) might be missing that gameplay can't always perfectly represent the actual reality in lore. If Undercity is fully reopened, or maybe Gnomeregan is finally made into a proper city, and they aren't open to the other faction I'll bite my tongue and admit that I'm wrong, but I reckon they will be accessible (if maybe content-less) to the other faction. The 4th War is over and has been for almost a decade at this point in-game, and in Midnight we know Silvermoon will be open and content-filled for both factions. Why would it not be the same for every capital city (once they actually receive development)?
I agree, I think Bel'ameth is their proving ground to figure out how to allow these things. They're slowly trying to change things without breaking the game.
I would love to see each capital city receive a facelift and allow for both factions to enter. It only makes sense given that the Alliance and Horde are officially at peace now. Especially Lordaeron, because Calia is very cool with he Alliance and the city of Lordaeron was originally an Alliance holding. Personally, on the tippy top of my wishlist for remade zones is the whole of Lordaeron (Tirisfal Glades and the Plaguelands), with Calia and the Undead making some sort of agreement to allow some humans (maybe some with Lordaeron ancestry, maybe some of the Arathi descendants we're going to meet in TWW) to resettle the land in peace. I mean, if you think about it, there are a lot of Undead and Humans that are probably family. If both sides can see past their differences (and I believe there's a novel where some already have), there could ge a joyous reunion in store.
On the one hand I'm glad we haven't killed Fyrakk HC yet because my guild will literally all stop playing the moment we do, but on the other hand I'm always surprised that as a bunch of former mythic raiders we always get beaten by Tali's guild
"Thrall? Thrall? Thrall? Thrall? Thrall?"
I almost choked on my chili!
I get the point about cities being open and showing strength that way, and it actually makes them more realistic tbh. However, for night elves specifically, I *do* want them to be isolationists in the forest. I want anyone who's not allied with the night elves to feel like their forests are hostile and potentially fatal. In short, I want the scary night elves from the Darkshore cinematic. I liked those night elves a lot. Those Night Elves wouldn't have a gift shop in their city.
Those never existed in game though, ever
With work/life changes meaning I have less time for all of WoW's 'side dishes', I would welcome a bit of relaxation from new stuff so I can try to catch up a little.
I do kinda worry that Bel’ameth is gonna stand empty after two-three weeks as the novelty wears off and people flock back to SW or Valdrakken. I hope not! As an Argent Dawn boi i do hope the RP scene takes off there as hard as it didn’t take off in Boralus (sad face).
Boralus was SO perfect for RP I was honestly devastated finding all the fun nooks and crannies that never got used much (THE CAT HOUSE NEXT TO THE CHEESE /WINE BAR ON THE DOCKS WITH THE FANCY RESTAURAUNT DOWN THE STREEET HELLLLOOOO)
In before the Sylvanus transmog is announced as the next 12month traders monthly reward after the wardens set
I suspect they will give us player housing so that we can spend 2024 crafting our own little nook in the new city
I don't think it will be a year until TWW launches, my prediction is September, that would give us a 4 month fated season (assuming it launches in may) which feels a lot more appropriate than 6 months of fated, and still falls within the "fall 2024" timeframe.
Anduin will get his light back into his sword with help from the underground Na’ru crystal.
@@jaydub8576 Did you post under the wrong comment? What does this have to do with the Launch-date?
My only hope is that sometime between now and WWI we get the final heritage armor sets.
Think that ship has sailed
I’m sure they’re going to add it, there’s just a few more to go. What are left trolls, Draenei, pandaren, right? If we don’t get it this expansion for sure next. Tbh I’d never think mine were going to be added because it took sooooo long for others to come out.
3:23 So beautiful, so purple, so _not matching the white set or the red set of our heritage armor we've gotten so far!_ Come on blizzard, just give the heritage armor in dark purple please!
I mean I get what Tali is saying with the reasons why it's realistically ok for Night-elves to let Horde characters in Bel'ameth but... it's still WARcraft, and lately, it's been looking a LOT more like PEACEcraft.
It's like, why do you think people play Warhammer 40k stuff? Because you know there's always constant conflict, everybody is xenophobic, it's (oddly enough) part of the fun.
Sounds like you hate story and lore, most of the world's history was showing the wars were stupid and would end
@@jtowensbyiii6018 You pretty much missed my entire point: World of Warcraft is not real-life, it's a game based on an IP built on the idea of player-factions going at war against one another. Of course IRL, we want our leaders to not act like morons (and yet, they often do), to be smart and take decisions that lead to solve all of Humanity's problems, like war, hunger, poverty, etc.
But then why do we have PvP in WoW, if wars are stupid and should end? Because that's the bloody game! Hence the comparison to W40k. Would you tell me that people who love W40k actually hate story and lore? Because you'd be dead wrong.
Though, I do hate it when story and lore is written by idiots for idiots. The quality and execution of writing in WoW is low, REALLY low, ESPECIALLY if you compare it to other recent games like, oh I dunno, say the last two God of War games. You listen to the wisdom of characters like Mimir or Týr in the DLC that just came out, compare this to Kalecgos acting like he's Dom Toretto from Fast & Furious. I dare you then to talk to me about "Story" and "Lore" in WoW.
No, I'm sorry, but as a huge night elf fan, I have hated the whole amirdrassil story from start to finish and Bel'ameth is just promising me that I'll have to be reminded of that awful story for years to come and having those Hyjal and Feralas visitors only reminds me of what we *should* be having instead of this awfulness. If Hyjal got updated as a proper night elf capital and Bel'ameth was just a new neutrall/rp flavor town like Suramar or something, then fine, I can just pretend it doesn't exist and shrug it off, but they're not doing that, and so everything that I should by rights like about it as a new night elf home is completely overshadowed by the terribleness that is Amirdrassil's story.
On that note, I am terrified of the next year and the World Soul Saga because it promises to be heavily story focused...and gang...Dragonflight has had the worst story I've ever experienced in WoW. Now you might counter with BFA, Shadowlands, or WoD, and sure, those were bad, but in a very different way. Those previous expansions were good ideas done poorly, but Dragonflight has just actively thrown canon and all semblances of actual story telling out the window. If those past expansions were good ideas done poorly, then this is bad ideas done slightly better but still pretty friggin poorly. And this same team is the team working on the next 7 years of "heavily story based" content. As someone who used to love WoW's story and lore and world building and characters...I absolutely dread it. Dragonflight excelled in literally every other regard *other* than story in my opinion, which has kept me playing and actually having a good time despite wanting to skip dialogue and cutscenes while I'm playing (something I literally have never done before Dragonflight and this will be the first expansion I don't get loremaster while hunting down every scrap of story to enjoy) I've still had a great time. I'm looking forward to the Azerothian Archives and Delves and any other fun gameplay stuff they have in store...but man...I just want to never ever ever think about night elves ever again because everything I used to love about them has been ruined by Dragonflight.
Exactly! Well the Anakin meme, but WoW should still be a fantasy game!
They went so far as to write three books, to try to centralize the canonical universe and have a more secure basis for writing new stories.
But no, all of WoW's lore became a backdrop to force new expansions, with retcon after retcon.
I definitely saw how much goddamned real estate there was in Bel'Ameth and thought "you know... that's a lot of real estate for... you know... REAL ESTATE!"
Housing happens now or never. Yes, I know, that's been the case forever, every expansion, but come on now! We're literally revamping at least two cities in the next two expansions. Instanced housing requires A SINGLE DOOR with maybe a garrison-like instanced approach. That door you pointed out fits the bill perfectly!
THREE CITIES between post-DF, TWW and Midnight, with a clear and obvious more to come! The Forsaken are obviously getting something out of this too eventually!
I do believe that the 'Smug Dad' energy Taliesin oozes with is an entirely new mood that I didn't know I needed in my life.
But it's not "parent's and grandparents" though. It's mostly the same people who killed and burned Nightelves, specially since players are the soldiers and warriors, not simply merchants and artists. Nightelves are going to see again a lot of those faces who they witnessed commit murder and genocide against them. Not just "similar" faces, LITERALLY the same faces.
I think they should go harder than a debuff on the consequences. For example, some remarks from NPCs for those horde members who have done burning of Teldrassil questlines as the walk through the city. Or forcing Horde members to unequip their weapons while they're in the city, either automatically do so when they enter the city, or getting attacked by the guards and killed if they don't do it. Imagine if any Horde member that enters the city with weapons equipped is immediately approached by the guards, and entangled until they unequips them. And they're attacked and killed if they draw their weapons.
"Like shitting your pants is an experiment"
- I always knew I was a scientist
16:10 "...like shitting your pants is an experiment"😂😂😂😂😂
I work events. After 16-17 hour days of absolute chaos, nothing beats getting back to the hotel and watch The weekly reset before bed! 😂
Thank you Tali & Evitel for all your hard work. ✌🏻💚
2:44 Leave it to Bit Like Immortalis to win world first of guilds with a name... Well... A bit like Immortalis.
Gonna have to re-think the criteria there lol.
I love that the guy thought that the fact they Horde aren't kill on sight in the city that the Horde just saved was his last straw.
ok , but when do we get to dye our own gear ? THATS what i want to know
Night elves used to be terrifying, we got a little taste in bfa with malfurion in darkshore. I agree this is a show of strength, keep your friends close and enemies closer
and he's done nothing but sleep ever since...
@@suzandouglass5241 yelling TYRANDEEEE is tiring work
"some scars never heal"
Scars don't heal, they fade.
"I don't care what scars do!"
For the first time ever I feel like blizzard actually has something hidden from us. Remember we still dont know the back story behind xalatath and earth dragon dude. they may give us story driven content patches.
Poor gnomes. Even the worgen get their city back before they do
Anyone crying about their race’s storylines need look no farther than the gnomes, and just sit back and close their mouths.
No mention at all of the rot gnoll they've already brought back up?
They probably could have spaced out each content patch and mini patch in DF by a few weeks and we wouldn't have this problem.
so, lets talk player housing on capitals
we have the nelfs new torc- I mean tree, gilneas is pretty big, lordaeron has the entirety of its surface ...
two alliance and one horde
one representing kalimdor with nelfs, two eastern kingdom ...
and there is place that could use a new city, the south of kalimdor is very empty, i wonder if either gadgetzan or something in silithus may be planned
Mmmmm, interesting point.
Caverns of Time would be perfect for housing that's coded/programmed the same way as LotRO or FFXIV. At each "portal" the player selects the "neighborhood" (aka layer) they want to visit. The games have dozens of neighborhoods, all identical. That's how they have so much housing - identical layers. Hell, they could even just turn some of the dungeons into the housing template. We could live in a house or apartment in a town like Stratholme, without the poisoned grain. Plop some housing down throughout the bog where some really important character opens or shuts portals and there are alligators or crocs everywhere.
"like shitting your pants is an experiment" EVITEL I WAS EATING and almost chocked of laughter! xD
Relax and enjoy yourself, folks ^^'And, hey, try getting into RP if you feel bored. Just, eh, steer clear of Goldshire and stuff. Stick to Mage District and Lion's Rest ;D
11:36 And from what I have heard as someone familiar with the potato "famine" (among the existence of plenty of other conflicts between the Irish and English), the Irish these days let the English walk across their potato fields.
We French People would really like to come visit your country we have heard so much about, but there is something at the frontier... ;-)
After 10.2.5, they should do what they did with BFA, 100% exp and rep buff. Let people level alts, make a little gold and get ready for TWW
I sorta wish they just never did the Faction Conflict, ever. Its impossible to change the status quo of it without ruffling feathers and im a little sick of it!
Frankly the story has never made ‘sense’ since the Forsaken joined the Horde, so some of the turns people get upset about are always interesting to me
See, I'm fine with a content drought at the END of an expansion, it's almost kind of normal and it makes sense. Also because people start seeing expansion features on beta's and stuff, so while it's longer to get my hands on new content, it at least makes sense and you constantly get to see what's being worked on. And with it being at the END of the expansion and I understand they're working a larger batch of new content, I'm totally fine to go play a different game for a little while. Whereas with like shadowlands content draught at the BEGINNING of expansion, and I know the world was a weird place at the time, but imo that was the first and biggest nail in the coffin for shadowlands. It really sucks when you want to play the game and are expecting more game to play, and it just . . .isn't there.
That bel on meth joke made me stop the video from laughing
i paused the video and just sat there speechless for like 2 minutes.
I think it's great that a new city is on dragon isles. I hope it means we won't just be leaving every continent behind forever when we get new expansions. They will all be relevant
4:30 What an odd way to pronounce "Chris Metzen, Chris Metzen, Chris Metzen, Chris Metzen, Chris Metzen, Chris Metzen, Chris Metzen, Chris Metzen, Chris Metzen, Chris Metzen"
Also now I think of it, Anduin's had around three now. Unless the vanilla Anduin outfit counts?
Hey guys sorry I’m late did I miss the tabard giveaway?
Just because we won’t be getting another raid, doesn’t mean we won’t get more content. Remember, 2024 is the 20th ANNIVERSARY OF WOW. They’re going to drown us in content, most of which will be the lead up to TWW in November. So far we’ve had updates every 8 - 10 weeks. So, let’s say 10.2.5 drops on. Jan 9th. That leaves March 12th, May 14th, July 16th, and September 17th for a launch date of TWW on November 19th which gives us new content every 9 weeks. We’re very much in safe hands.
@TaliesinEvitel Come on guys, the new city is all about sticking to corporate policy and "inclusivity", because this is the message the PR/diversity department at Blizzard wants to send, especially after the scandals. Secondly, they don't want to invest in a big feature that only half of the player base would get to experience. You saying that's justified and manifests basically "confidence" makes you look debriefed on how to comment on the topic by PR. Either this, or you genuinely believe it was done for purely gameplay reasons without second thoughts, which I would find disappointing.
Forgiveness is all well and good, right up until they do it again.
And given they've destroyed at least 6 Alliance towns/cities in past decade, presenting yourself as such an easy target to be lucky 7th is really asking for it.
Wouldn't even need to be a collective attack. There's plenty of undead who'd happily spread the plague just for kicks.
(Southshore, Theramore, Gilneas, Auberdine, Astranaar (among others) and obviously Teldrassil - though haven't played in a while so might be some new ones...)
If this is the end of the faction-war though, then it's kind of a bummer to feel like the Horde really did get away with everything.
There was an occasional slap on the wrist, but it never amounted to anything and always swiftly reverted back to the statis quo.
Hamuul has always been more of an alliance than horde character the way he buddies up with the druids, which let's be honest are mostly alliance the entire druidic leadership is for one. His healthbar is green and not yellow for a reason :D
The Alliance helped save Orgrimmar a couple of times, Does that mean we will be able to visit without being killed on sight? The only way this whole peaceful acceptance thing will work is if it goes BOTH WAYS!! Not that I really want to visit Orgrimmar (Silvermoon is better looking) but for EVERY Alliance city Horde can visit, Alliance should be able to visit a Horde city as well as soon as it becomes available.
Nothing was worse than getting BOMBARDED by MIzzy via in-game mail for the stupid Warcraft Rumble crossover. What a shit show that was.
The biggest disappointment about Amirdrassil is that they launched it in this state, it's just kinda weird? It feels like glitching the game and ending up in some place you're not supposed to be.
Like just doing a quest chain to get a big empty version of an island? Like just add some npcs and building that are actively being built
I don't want a neutral city from a race that part of the identity was xenophobia. I want a cold war with leaders who have to choose between pragmatic and popular, to push this story forward that traps us in the middle and allows people to choose a side or no side at all. This is true for inside the factions as well. The old backstory for Forsaken was awesome, and the Sylvanas resolution was too terrible to cap it off and make them "good" now.
Since when part of the identify was xenophobia?
@@alihorda tell me without telling me you never played warcraft 3. :)
@@sirdiealott I actually did play it. Wc2 too
@@alihorda Back in wc3, night elves never trusted anyone but their own people, they attacked both humans and orcs when they came to their forest, because they were "primitives outsiders" who had no respect for their homes.
@@alihorda I mean there's no doubt that night elves were xenophobic and and elitist in wc3. I guess they've lost a lot of their edge since then...The defining personality of wc3 night elves was them being fierce forest/night warriors.. Feel like they are leaning too much into the "one with nature" aspect and not enough into the "we will hunt you down and kill you" aspect.
Tower for Dark rangers, demon hunters and death knights? I´m not sure one building can contain so much edge.
i will still have hope that Druinds, Shamans and Paladins for all will be released before TWW
Forsaken Druids
Worgen Shamans
and Pandaren Paladins would clearly be a lot to tie people over!
They said when it makes sense in the story, the thing is NOW is the best time for Druids...with 10.2 despite that class being the one that requiers the most work!
As a hypothetical Blizzard dev, if I had control over a fated season, I'd weave it intricately into the game's lore. Leveraging our connection with the infinite dragonflight, I'd take players back to revisit each raid, infusing them with new twists and engaging story elements. Imagine encountering dissenting infinite dragons, discontent with past outcomes. For dungeons, why stop at the usual? Incorporate every dungeon from all three seasons, creating an epic journey with both the infinite and bronze dragonflight.
If they want to keep me playing…… I would love to do all of dragonflight again as a Nelf Paladin. GIVE ME NELF PALADINS!!!
Oh boy, the comments tell me that it's time again for my favorite WoW debatelord rhetoric - Alliance players doing full-throated Blood and Soil revanchism while trying to convince us how they're good guys.
At least in the Horde, the terminally-online reactionary losers have the courage to admit that they just like being bloodthirsty monsters
instead of tabbards and cloaks, now its tabbards and helms. so now my characters keep getting two helms....
Saw someone on the forums saying Bel’ameth was confirmation the Blizzard hates NEs. I just…some people really need to take a step outside.
I mean the Horde did help protect the Tree, Imagine if they pushed us out after...that would not...end well.
@TaliesinEvitel Where can I get the Appa toy in the background :( I looked everywhere. Awesome video!
We're going to sail beyond the boarders of the western sea and get plenty of content there. No raid, just other playable pve content. Mark my words Tali!
The "Thrall, Thrall, Thrall" part threw me to the floor laughing 😂😂😂😂😂
Early squad
The thrall, thrall, thrall, thrall, thrall, but had me LMAO!
Y'know which character id like to have a transmog of?
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Thrall?
Lord stormsong would be nice....
I think you should try fated bosses. I don't like reclearing raid once I get my aotc but I enjoyed fated raids.
It's pleasant mix of farm comfort and chill because you know the fight and bit of progression because affixes throw wrench in your tactics from time to time.
Kinda glad there is gonna be a draught, i can finally catch up on shit. 2023 was a dam good year for gaming. So many bangers.
I don't mind the wait, personally. I've got FFXIV's new xpac to do in the gap anywho. Thanks for keeping me updated while my WoW sub has lapsed!
OK - so I was initially upset about Bel'Ameth being in Dragon Isles, and then I was upset about it being neutral, but the more I dwell on it the more I like what it *may* be a harbinger of - a true world revamp where all the places on Azeroth become part of a unified "base world". Broken Isles and Pandaria, Northrend and Zandalar, Kul Tiras and Draghon Isles, Azuemyst and Qual'Thalas all in one unified World of Warcraft, completed by the time we finish The Last Titan. All past expansion content moves to Chromie time permanently and exclusively as a playground for level-capped players who want something to do, and now the whole world (excluding Outland, Draenor, Shadowlands and Argus until applicable) is free to expand upon in the current timeline, these places no longer stuck in their past iterations but instead updated to represent what has transpired and existing in the now, free to use as leveling content or as the site of future stories. Nearly all cities could end up the site of world quest hubs open to all factions and races.
People angry about Horde in the new city, naw. I want to know where Malfurion is and when he's coming back.
Is content only raids? 10.2.5 will be out in January most likely. Also they've confirmed more patches after that, so it definitely won't be a year between those and WW.
Also asa Night Elf main I love Bel'ameth so far. Seems like the Night Elves are truly healing and recovering. Forgiveness requires a lot more strength than bitterness and hatred does.
Yeah, it would be nice to have stages of rebuilding in mini patches as Bel'ameth is improved, Gilneas is rebuilt, and even Lorderon and Undercity can be improved and rebuilt. I wouldn't even mind a new neutral Theramore where the horde and alliance rebuild the city as a peace overture with both factions and it could have boats and flying boats that go to different capitals of both factions.
I stopped playing at the start of Shadowlands and after the thing in mid 2021 I decided I wouldn't return until Bobby Kotick was gone. Well he is gone now and I am planning to return. So I decided to watch some of these videos to find out what I missed. And as a night elf player I am excited
i could see a mega dungeon being added in. Vakthros would be a great space for lore and outside the main story.
[snort] Drought for whom? I have metas to complete, I'm two-three expansions behind on raids due to numbers elitists keeping me away from LFR, and a couple of pet dungeons to grind. I have more 'plenty' than an Iskaaran.
As someone who has pretty much always played alliance, I like that the new city allows Horde players. Makes it really feel like the war is over. Yeah theres still memories and wounds, thats why they have the being watched debuff. But yeah they helped the tree just as well, they are not actively at war, why not let everyone explore this beautiful new city if they want?
I wish I had the same forgiveness as you. The horde *protected and defended* Sylvanas . All of them. What Sylvanas did and continued to do was only possible because of Horde players. They suffered zero consequence, weren't inconvenienced at all (other than being utter cowards and watching Sylvanas nuke Lorderon and kill Saurfang).
I have no problem with Bel'ameth being a neutral city. Night Elves have always been Alliance by default.
I would LOVE to have Thralls current armor set as an xmog
Give us Lorthemar's armor as transmog. I beg of you blizz.
So far I'm not seeing anything quite like the Temple of the Moon from Darnassus here. It will be interesting to see how they add on to things if they do as you suggested.
Let’s fill the pants, “just an experiment “! Holy cow that was funny😂
Amirdrassil... I like it as a potential home, but I wish that it was part of Kalimdor. I always really loved the difference between it and EK, in that Kalimdor just had a more untamed, wild and well... vast expanses feel. It suits the night elves as many of us came to love them. I don't mind the obvious elven alliance they're playing with at all, but yes... there's always gonna be that small sadness. It's weird since Ohn'ahran plains is one of my favourite zones they've ever made visually, so it's weird to have that sadness :P