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- Опубликовано: 31 окт 2021
- "DC's Injustice Gods Among Us" animated movie is now out for streaming and boy did I have a lot to say about it. Injustice Gods Among Us is one of the most popular DC storylines in recent years. In this video, "Injustice Gods Among Us Film (Geekview)", I critique this movie by explaining why I felt it missed the mark on pertaining to the very essence of the comic story's main narrative. Overall, I felt this was a very disappointing adaptation of the original story and I tell you exactly why in this video. What did you guys think of the DC Injustice animated movie? Did you like it? Let me know down in the comments below!
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The way they killed off flash in the beginning and never referenced him again was criminal
Who?
Gone in a flash...
Absolutely. Every 10 minutes or so I was saying to myself while watching “So no one is going to talk about Barry?!” I was tilted.
He would have smacked up superman that's why
Right!
As usual, I'm with Rob. I mean this story was worthy of a three-part epic animated film at the very least.
The very least.
Yes it was super rushed smfh
I mean....nah..they couldve made that shit a series homie....season one a prequel to injustice 1,season 2 injustice 1,season3 between i.g.a.u 1&2 and so on and so on....i mean yea at the least a lengthy 3 parter...but it couldve been soooo much more.
@@robbymyers9987I'm with you. we are on the same page
Exactly man! Have each movie be a few years into the regime
Still perplexed how Flash thinks at lightspeed, yet the Scarecrow toxin and a sawblade can take him out?
Fast with his feet, Slow with the 🧠
@@TheJaycee29 no if that was true than he can't even move more than 2 feet
@@TheJaycee29 only he's not. He literally thinks as fast as he runs
Let's just pretend that never happened.
Not every version of the flash is the same.
The Kill Bill speech really only applies to Golden and Silver Age Superman. But it totally works in the movie cuz Bill is the kind of guy who only watches old Kung Fu movies and old Samurai movies. He would definitely be one of those guys that only reads comics before 1980.
The way Rob reacted is exactly how I felt after I watched injustice as well. Injustice is an injustice of the story.
I knowingly chose to not watch it. The games are better stories and lasted longer. They did the flash wrong smh.
I always appreciate Rob giving negative reviews from the heart. It brings a good balance to Comics Explained. Plus he just saved me time and money.
He's not the dude that kisses every studios butt for insured access. He's not that dude.
It's worth renting from redbox. The movie wasn't terrible, but to live up to the amazing story from the comics, it needed to be done with sequels or in a series.
The reason the Joker keeps escaping is a flaw with the business of comic books, not in Batman’s philosophy. Asylum escapes are just as unrealistic as the super powers. The Joker is responsible for the Joker’s actions, not anyone else. He keeps escaping so that more stories can be told, and that’s all there is to that.
why couldn't Superman just put Joker in the phantom zone? 🤔
We all know bruh, but we look at in universe answers
Because superman didnt actually care untill it affected him. He was wrong, not because he was a tyrant but because it was his cowardice that forced him there. Thats when your morals get tested, when it affects you not when it doesnt, thats easy. Its why Rob is also wrong for siding with him.
@@Scripzure i wouldnt either.i would have killed him.are you saying if i murder you wife and unborn child you would be cool with me goin to prison.come on son
@@hermessanchez7955 oh really.what should he have done.forget about lois and his unborn child thats just joker being joker.leave him in jail do he can break out.
People have shown how horrible we are.if we were goin to better ourselves or even try we would be on our way to doin that we arent so superman took steps to do it for us.i agree with that.speakin for myself i lost my entire family to violence.everyone i care about now im goin to die angry and alone.i guess thats cool as long as we respect tge killers right.
Batman: "we cannot be Judge, Jury, & Exocutioner"...
The Justice System literally doing all 3 and Joker still got away😂
i always wonder is gotham dont hv death penalty? all the normal bad guy that batman put them in the jail should be dead by now
@@Batman-zi3ib In the real world the death penalty can take years due to court dates and in some cases a appeal if there is a guilty verdict. Even with a guilty verdict you have death row. Some people wait a whole decade before a execution. 🤷🏾♂️
Police can kill a black person just pulling out his ID or a child with a toy gun, but they won't shoot the Joker on sight.
You think he’s use that billionaire money for some thing useful…
@@s-wo8781 I wouldn't shoot your clowns joker either for comparing a racial topic with cartoon.
During Mr. Terrific and Superman playing chess and checking if his ideals are correct I can only think wait this is the flash's conversation would have been nice to see
I’m the comics it was the flash rip and he doesn’t die in the comics.. the movie was kinda bad
@@thoughtsintheclouds8516 really bad not kinda
@@thoughtsintheclouds8516 really bad not kinda
They really gave Flash’s best scene to a character who wasn’t even in the comic
This was HBOMax shot at Invincible sitting RIGHT THERE!! Give it a series with all the time it needed.
Definitely
That would be dope
Wow, you hit the nail on the head!!! Why not a series?!? After all we have the Titans and the Boys!!!!
Yeah, and they could've made it 5 seasons, one for each year.
Having read the entire comic, I was so disappointed in this adaptation. This was an easy slam dunk and they blew it! Cramming the whole thing into an 80 minute movie was impossible. And yes, it missed the whole point of what was examined in the original story. When it was announced I just assumed we were getting 5 movies with each one covering one year. An Invincible style series would've been best, but that was fine. What we got was unthinkable and an injustice in and of itself made even worse by the usual overall quality of the DC animated films. Hopefully one day they'll attempt a do over as with the Death Of Superman
Dimensional DCAU ( Trigon) ( Sabbac) ( Lucifer) M Comic U ( Maphisto ) etc.
Superman couldn’t stop at killing Rob, what did Superman do right after killing
Turns to world domination
That’s not a slope that’s a fucking cliff
Rob basically went with the abused wife trope of "Well I made him do it, it was my fault" which is just BS. Yeah there is a lot of injustice that gets done because of the system, its slow and takes to long but thats the point of justice vs vengence.
The Justice System is meant to be a little slow, because it allows time for things to cool down for cooler heads to prevail. For evidence to be gathered, etc. But what Superman is suggesting is an immediate system build on immediate punishment of what is seen as guilty. We know DAs have pushed for the trial and conviction of innocent men because the crime was so big news wise that they HAD to get someone behind bars to calm the public (See serial killings, serial rapists, etc) in Superman's world you are looking at that all the time. Every person accused suddenly become just guilty because we need someone behind bars so that Superman does not mass murder the city.
Superman by year five is planting nukes in cities to destroy them for not fearing him enough. Yeah thats not a slippery slope that is a fucking cliff as you (op) said.
@@TheLastSane1 and the reason is because joker actually hurt something he cared about, in effect hurt him and left him emotional. So his emotional decision was to kill a guy not because he was unfixable but because he personally effected him
How many other peoples loved ones were kill without mercy and Superman never lashed out that way
When did Superman kill Rob?
After watching the movie and hearing your review, yea this definitely needed to be at least a trilogy in order to get everything in it. I don't think anybody would've complained about that.
Exactly. We would want more. Long Halloween was two parts. I was like hell yea.
I was thinking something like a series. Like 5 seasons, one for each year.
I feel like wit that Kill Bill line, as cool as it was, can only really be applied to a flawed Superman like this. Superman in a general sense although always had the powers and the kryptonian heritage, is who he is as a hero because of the lessons taught to him by humanity( the Kent’s, Lana, etc.). His ideals and personality stem from being raised on Earth as Clark Kent before he ever knew he was Kal El.
That's kinda the point humanity taught him your right but wouldn't he also have learned our flaws and losing your wife and unborn child can make us all lose ourselves I don't totally agree with how he changed but I think him not being perfect is more realistic to me
It's completely wrong anyway. Superman is the persona, clark kent is the reality. Bruce wayne is the persona, Batman is the reality.
@@jschildress1 That was my thought, too. “But, Bill was full of s*** and exactly wrong”
@@100percentNotaBot What do you mean by saying Clark Kent is the identity? Hasn't it been pointed out, multiple times, that Clark Kent is the real man behind Superman? Superman is the persona that he uses to help mankind, and Clark is the real person. Superman wouldn't BE Superman unless he was raised as Clark. Although I suppose going in that direction, there are actually 3 personas. Superman (Kal-El), Clark Kent (Metropolis/Daily Planet) and Clark Kent (Smallville).
@@100percentNotaBot superman used the lasso of truth once
And wondy asked him who are you
Superman said Clark Kent
Batman on the other hand said Batman
comics are in essence a story board, when you have one this famous, just animate whats already there, dont change nothing!!
It always makes me laugh how much creative groups in charge of shows, movies, etc are terrified of trying something new because it can fail. Yet they constantly take something people love and then completely change it and it always fails.
Obviously they are incapable of learning...
5:01
I honestly call bs on that. I think superman IS clark kent b4 hes superman. Clark kent isnt a disguise per se, or a critique on how he views humanity, he admires lois and hundreds of others for their strength and courage despite not being as strong as he is.
Can i see the logic in dude statement? Sure, but i dont believe its accurate.
I feel like an injustice animated series would've been a better idea than the movie we got
What a great idea! Like a short mini series of like 8-10 episodes when they really get to tell the story. It was rushed. They had a chance to really do something great and they blew it because they cut corners
The Justice Lords episodes of JLUnlimited is better
Hell yes
I'm wondering if this was already pre planned years down the road by WB and they couldn't back down with it and so it came out rushed and bleh
But if they legit did 10 episodes 45 min. each they could easily make a FANTASTIC injustice story.
The first episode could have introduced everyone and established what the world was like and end with superman killing joker
Then we continue the next episode from there...
Such wasted opportunity
Agreed if it wasn’t so rushed, empty and felt half assed, it would’ve had the potential to be great but naw they had to fuck it up in every way possible. I agree it should’ve been a tv series or at least a film trilogy, that way they would have time to tell a story
Probably had to deliver the ( Material Resources ) who knows ?!?!? number of reason !?!?!
This should’ve been like a whole season on HBO Max. There’s no way to do it justice in one movie.
Was literally thinking the same thing.
At the end of the day I agree with Superman's decision to slay The Joker this prove that Batman always sucked as a hero owlman was better.
I always hated that idea by Bill, because there’s a thing he fails to grasp:
Superman is the persona of a puffed up chest and do-good attitude that he uses to show the world we can be better.
Clark Kent, his real self is the man tripping over his superpowered feet because Lois is pregnant and he’s out gushing to his best friend about the news.
That meek Clark Kent we see out and about is basically his billionaire playboy visage.
Honestly, I always felt that was just more BS commentary from Tarantino. I've never been a fan of his writing.
Yes, that characterization of Superman is wrong and inconsistent with comic book writers' characterization. Ma and Pa Kent raised Superman with their values. Clark Kent is just pretending to be a weak human but the humility and integrity of Clark Kent is the real thing.
On the contrary, Bruce Wayne, the carefree billionaire playboy, is a persona created by the young man who became Batman. The arguably psychotic brooding individual wearing the mask is the real thing.
@@trevorwooten9485 well Bill is a Villian so of course the Villian would misinterpet the actions of a paragon of virtue that is Superman. It is part of the reason why the main universe Lex chose not to believe Clark was Superman. He just could not fathom a being of such immense power could be this meek individual. but the truth is that both public images of Clark and Superman are acts and the true Clark is the one you get in Smallville on the Kent Farm with Ma and Pa.
But most if not a large amount of comic series kind of support this. I dont like it but the more i read, the more it kind of points towards this ideology
@@trevorwooten9485 Seems like you misinterpreted it as well.
Rob’s disappointed face on the cover is all of us after watching this train wreck of an adaption
Castlevania is what Injustice should've strived to be. Both is a critique on the flaws of humanity.
Dark side takes out a whole continent
Batman:" he can be cured"
I love Batman but this is Hilarious😂😂
He's an Alien so can be killed. Bruce is just against killing Humans.
I saw the preview and just from watching that I am unsure I even want to see it. The comic was so good. I can't believe they messed this up. DC usually makes the best animated movies. 😭
Same, I feel like DC animations are slowly falling off *sheds tear* maybe they’re just too invested in their live action projects now
@@drbankroll999 But is that DC or WB?
I saw 3 clips and noped out.
@@thephoenix2038 great point, I didn’t think about that
Good Lord this is the worst animated DC comic book movie since the adaptation for batman the killing joke....
(Well in the plus side it seems that eternals is better than this piece of s***)
"There was never a disappointing DC animated movie."
Batman Ninja intensifies
That movie wasn't bad...
It's wasn't the greatest but it definitely wasn't the worst...
Batman vs ninja turtles.
@@dragonofthewhiteflame4987 It was bad... DC Animation has been in decline for a while..This just confirmed it..
Batman Ninja doesn't disappoint simply for the fact that it got made!😄 Yea the story couldve been more cohesive and the characterization better, but it was worth it for the concepts and zany action alone! 😁
@@Qster83 this...
Thank you
Your analysis was spot on Rob. Before you even said it, you’re review had me thinking this should have been two movies. So, much, happened. But I will say, as I have before, why has the Joker just not been given the death penalty; he’s not truly insane, he knows exactly what he’s doing. He would be found guilty and be executed, done.
My exact same thoughts. So many things were left out that it felt only like a shell of the actual story.
On the other hand, my father, who didn't read the comics, liked it. He liked the concept of Superman enforcing "justice" with his powers, but he didn't like the idea of solving everything by "bringing another version from another universe" because it can be an endless loop.
They should have made a four or five season show out of it, since there’s just so much ground to cover
( Red Gurnard ) ?!? ( Unsustain Power ) ?!? ?!?!? ( really dont know what Universe is out there ) !?!?
UN what talk abbout !?!? will try !?!? (good luck )?!?! Auto -Pilot
I love the philosophy behind Injustice. I'd be an anti-hero, and I agree with Superman. Some villains just gotta die.
If we actually lived in a comic book world where super villains went to jail and then routinely escaped to massacre people (ie arkham asylum) I’m pretty sure everyone would be for the death penalty.
Yeah villains like the joker have to die. However Superman crossed the line after killing one of his former friends/teammates.
You know that's true but by a jury of ones peers...not one lone man making those decisions...Superman being powerful doesn't make him perfect or judge,jury, and executioner. The fact is as a citizen of earth Superman is to live bound by the laws of earth.
If it's someone like darkseid who cannot be contained or captured really then I say wipe em out if you can but if it's something who's able to be caught like joker or scarecrow then I say capture them then have them go to court and get the death penalty and have it be like that month, no sitting on death row for years because they tend to always escape, but if it's someone who just robs banks and isn't all about murder then life in prison or regular criminal charges
@@shootingreal5945 That would be fine if black people didn't have to be judged by a white jury, a white judge, etc and if poor people has access to the same level of defense that rich people did.
Batman asks the important question in Dark Knight Returns, back before Frank Miller went completely off his nut. "How many people have I murdered by letting you live." And he still doesn't kill the Joker. Juuuuuuuuuust breaks his neck a little. And then Joker finishes it.
This made me think: what if DCeased got animated in the style of Justice League Dark? They would absolutely kill it! (Yeah pun intended-)
Imagine Metal being adapted with the Dark Knights being played by different actors (Kevin Conroy as BWL)
DCAU ( Etrigon )
I feel like adapting comics directly to cartoons is a little redundant in general (except when you want more money 🙄) unless you can significantly improve the story and/or characters
yeah but some prople prefer watching over reading, and there are differences
Public enemies was a plus for me though I know it wasn't for everyone. The fact that they did the same art style made me love it more.
I don't think its redundant. It expands the audience of these stories. I think most people want the things they loved to be loved by others
Every medium brings something different.
Nothing is done without a financial incentive. I disagree that its redundant. Far more eyes will see the animated movie than will read the comic. As a fan of these stories I want more people to be aware of and see them. Unfortunately I dont think DC has made a good animated adaptation in a long long time. If they dont just miss the point they end up making changes for the sake of making a change so it's different regardless of whether the change makes sense or makes the story better or interesting.
Such a shame to see a great story go to waste. Guess I’ll just rewatch the cut scene game movies again because those are great!
I watched it the other day and I still amazing at how great subtle things are such as they way their faces move and little things you cN catch happening in the background.
I absolutely agree Rob. This is the first time that I’ve ever not enjoyed a DC animated movie. So much was missed and it was rushed.
( Noun We Talking ) ?!?!?!
Can't believe the flash died from what's essentially a Wiley kayote trap.
Love the content Rob! Keep it up brother!!
I love these philosophical rants rob goes on
Completely agree Rob this was a rare miss in what is usually a home run in there field of awesome animated movies and with the exception of T T Go shows as well. Gives me little hope now for a Kingdom Come movie.
I really hope they don't fuck up kingdom come
Injustice is my fav story line that was brought to a video game and the fact that it didn't hit as a film hurts.
DC animation needs to bring back the New 52 time-line. That was the best. They had the formula, animation, stories... it was exciting and intriguing. This attempt to get a new set of animated content is a shit show.
In my personal opinion, while the New 52 line up of DC animated films had some good films like Batman: Son of Batman, Death of Superman, Justice League War, Batman vs Robin, Constantine: City of Demons, Batman: Bat Blood etc... I wouldnt say they had some of the best films either as the New 52 line up had some pretty odd choices for their characters and their personality changes, not to mention most of their stories were quite formulaic and generic such as Teen Titans vs The Justice League, Batman: Hush, Justice League: Throne of Atlantis, Teen Titans: Judas Contract, Justice League Dark Apocalypse War.
Although this is just my personal opinion, I actually prefer the previous set of original DC animated films from the early 2000's, and even recently with their latest DC Rebirth animated films like Superman Man of Tomorrow, Justice Society World War 2, Batman: The Long Halloween Part One and Two, all of which I find to be very good and each possessing interesting ideas, themes and new premises. Gladly Injustice was not part of this new line up because I also found the film to be redundant and formulaic as well.
I do like some of the New 52 animated films, don't get me wrong, but I honestly prefer some of old films like Under The Red Hood, Batman Dark Knight Returns Part One and Two, Green Lantern: First Flight, Flashpoint Paradox, Superman vs The Elite etc... and I really like the newest line up of Rebirth films they have.
Idk I distinctly remember most of the DC fanbase absolutely shitting all over the first few New 52 movies after Flashpoint lol It doesn't surprise me that they decided to retcon it and try something new
@@mikelitoris6522 Me too. The films did start to feel formulaic at times and not reaally provide new interesting plots or provide compelling themes. But then again some of their films are still decent and highly enjoyable to watch.
I do really like the newest set of DC animated films a lot more, such as Superman Man of Tomorrow, Justice Society WW2 and Batman The Long Halloween with a very unique and interesting art style approach. I still do think the early 2000's DC animated films are still some of DC's best work though.
The new 52 movies sucked . Nothing has topped crisis on two earths , public enemy , even new frontier was good .
I’m sorry but that Absolutely Made No Sense, “he doesn’t care how many woman and child have to die in order to maintain that no killing rule” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
But it does make sense though.. He wont personally kill someone even if that means a lot of people will be killed due to that inaction.
It makes perfect sense. Batman knows exactly what the Joker is. Batman knows,basically for fact, that the Joker is going to escape and kill more people. He’s done it every single time.
Batman’s “I don’t kill rule” really does make him complicit it Joker’s crimes in a sense. He never really takes permanently stopping Joker seriously. He wouldn’t even have to kill him to do it. He’s one of the smartest dudes on the planet and has back up plans for his back up plans. But, he never really does more than play tag with Joker, then hand him over so he can be put in Arkham for a few months tops.
Holy crap, Rob doing reviews is something I didn't know I needed.
Finally thank you! When that movie went off I felt empty. I felt like I lost a piece of myself for taking the time to watch it. This needs a synder cut ASAP!
I love you Rob. You are a little boy of excitement in a big teddy bear man's body.
2:21
If anybody should know, this is the second time Batman has let the Joker of the hook after a catastrophe event, like that of Metropolis:
SPOILER ALERT!
In INJUSTICE: YEAR ZERO, Joker searches and obtains an artifact that allows him to take control of people and heroes; if killing Lois and destroying Metropolis was to break Superman, killing the entirety of JSA was to completely destroy the moral compass of the Superhero community, and Joker has achieved that in the most horrific way possible like Jimmy Olsen, taking control of the heroes and using them to kill each other and keep in mind, the JSA members are already too old, and Joker took advantage of that, while also using convenient means such as using weapons to shoot and stab them; and at the end of the comic, despite what Joker did, Batman recommends that he be arrested while Superman agrees reluctantly, having a bad feeling of such a course of action, since the Joker has already crossed a line for such a deed.
Well to be specific he only managed to kill a couple of them, while the rest were blown into the multiverse to where not even Joker knows.
He attempted to corrupt Superman but failed, but being inside his head basically told him everything about Clark and Lois expecting a kid which gave him the means to start his next plan which of course was Injustice.
10:31 why is nobody talking about how meme worthy this image is?
lool that australian sign at 8:15 with the distance in miles, classic
My issue is yes it does detract away from the actual story, you have to be represented the story. I also don't agree on the Batman is responsible for the Joker's killings. Not innately, you can argue that something had to be done with the Joker, even if that meant death but you cannot make an organization chosing who lives and who dies. Because there will be a decision that will have to be made, and would you really want an organization like the Justice League(Godly figures, one of them a superpowered alien, an Amazon who is pure fighter)or Avengers deciding who lives and who dies.
It would just be walking into a future disaster. I love OG superman but he cannot force his will on people in the way he does in Injustice. It didn't stop "Ok no more killing of innocent lives." It became so much more then that, and that is exactly Batman's god damn point. People like superheroes really shouldn't(IMO) enter the killing area. It gets easy and its the least resistant way to do it.
They did half ass the movie but I can't honestly say I would be ok with Superman ruling over us. He's in an emotional state and his judgement is fully compromised. Even in the comic Superman is like "One, just one." Did it end there? Hell to to the no. Always starts with one.
Nicely put..the story in this universe backs up that Batman was right and it can't stop with just one..a point Rob doesn't address..the temptation to kill another person is to great esp when you have the powers of Superman and no one can really stop you. I would say just think about the the beyond awful acts we hear on the news( the killing or abuse of children for example) now imagine upon hearing that you have the power of Superman and the speed to find these ppl seconds after hearing of there terrible acts..you telling me you wouldn't kill them right after finding them..that's what Batman meant by it never ends with just one.
I can definitely understand your complaints. I've yet to read the comics but I own the first game. I had always wondered how a movie might be resolved, since the comics are ongoing and there was an Injustice 2 game after the first. I figured there would be things added and removed to make that happen. But, yes, it would definitely have required a series to get the depth and tone of the source material. I don't think it's a bad movie, but the things you mention would be welcome improvements.
Philosophical or not Superman being a dictator makes him a villain. For whatever reason there are people who love dark violent finishes and that Batman was wrong for not murdering the Joker. How many times has Lex Luthor killed people? Doesn't that make Superman wrong for not killing him? Superman would have been fine with the Joker killing people as long as it did not affect his family.
By the way it is the GREATEST story ever told! I love it! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Supes is no dictator
But you make good point with lex luthor. It's the same
I would honestly LOVE to see an animated move adaptation of a comic book with little, to no changes from the source material. I understand expanding scenarios and conversations, but it should feel more like manga to anime. Adding details to flesh out a scenario because there are only a few pages.
exactly. to me it's alright to have a shot-for-shot animated adaptation of a literary work. i know that a good artist and a good writer will make the reader feel all the impact and emotion they want to convey, but its really just another thing when you see things move at the pace that an animator and editor would want you to see. added with the right sound mixing and proper sound effects, an animated adaptation can be much more than just a cheap cash grab
Did anyone notice how robotic and emotionless the characters sounded? A big part of the injustice comics for me was the dramatic dialogue .
The whole thing was rushed. When I rented it, I thought it was going to be part 1. But it must be a day ending in y if Rob is taking a dump on Batman.
A slippery slope argument isn’t one you bring up when you have no other. “Where does it stop?” That’s a legit question. If you can’t say or the answer is where i say it does then you’re on said slope.
Something I’ve always loved about the DCAU was you never know if the protags are going to survive. Like ANYONE can be destroyed at anytime
13:45 100% agree. This was an adaption that needed several movies like the series itself or even better a streaming series like What If? or WandaVision. A major dropped ball on the DCAU front.
Rob, you breaking this down makes me like and respect Superman. No one, NO ONE has made me respect Superman. Touche, good sir.
Respect for memorizing that whole Kill Bill monologue
Rob you are a National Treasure, please keep the videos coming. Didnt know about this channel, liked and Subbed
Mildly tangential, I always thought Bill’s analysis was wrong. Kal-El actually doesn’t know who he is *because* he arrived on Earth as an infant. Kryptonians didn’t have super powers on Krypton. Clark Kent, the human Earthling, Superman, the super-Earthling, and Kal-El, the Kryptonian are different people, and the audience doesn’t really know which is the real man.
He knows exactly who he is. He has all that in the ?FOS
Couldn’t have said how I felt better than you just did Rob! Wow. The series is one of my favorite trade back collections I own. 90% Marvel but Injustice the series moved me very deeply.
I never read the books yet but by judging from your perspective the suits in the board room don't want people to think to deeply about these important social issues because if they did it might cause a paradigm shift and the status quo may change.
As a follower of comics explained, your review of the series is my only exposure to the series injustice. I watched your review and was going into the movie with low expectations. The movie was great! Yes, different than your review of the comic, but you get everything you'd want. Superman unleashing his power, granted on himself. When he killed the joker followers, and batman witnessed, that was intense! Hell, when catwoman talked Bruce down while he was punching the dummy, I felt his pain from personal loss. Every beat felt genuine, when they stole superman man's dad, I was like, oh the stakes are escalating! Overall, I'd say decent movie. Rate it a B, you can definitely tell, the producers had passion producing it. As well as pleasing the studio heads for plot points.
Play the injustice game and u will find that the video adaptation pales in comparison
"He doesn't care how many men, women and children have to die, in order for him to maintain that no killing rule."
If men, women and children are dieing from him trying to maintain that rule hasn't he already broken it.
No , plus he gives himself bonus points for remaining above the fray, even as Superman pulled a major oopsy and accidentally killed his wife and a son I suspect was really Jimmy Olson's.
Batman is an example of Immanuel Kants moral philosophy known as the categorical imperative. Specifically regarding the universality of our actions without contradiction. Basically, if Batman kills the joker, it allows a moral loophole for others to kill. It also means Jokers actions, are never Batman’s fault. They are only ever the fault of joker who committed the act.
The categorical imperative is a widely used moral code, not just for Batman but real world issues. Batman is just usually written to represent it. You don’t have to agree with Kant but that’s where it comes from.
The interesting nihilism of the joker is to show people the flaws in their moral codes because he believes there will always be a contradiction in our morality and always tries to expose that to support his nihilistic worldview.
I think he might be implying all the men, women, and children dying by villains hands that he let live
It was a quarter ass adaptation. They were afraid of going balls to the walls accurate in favor of something that could fit in the span of 90 minutes.
Superman was right in killing joker. Sometimes bad/evil people gotta die.
I’ve never liked how AMAZO has been so powerful, that’s he gives Superman problems. Superman is always holding back but against a non living weapon, it should be full heat vision, fly into the sun type assault. Fight over!!!!
Darkseid vs Trigon was amazing… some of the DC animated movies are phenomenal
this just confirms this should've just been a tv show "Injustice"
i for one welcome our new superman overlord
Rob, would you consider giving a critique of the Young Justice animated series? I think it’s a great series but this current season is using that corporate writing that you mentioned ( very weak). Would love to hear your thoughts.
It’s honestly a quick cash grab. I wish they made this to a hbo max series. I loved this comic!!
I have NEVER been so disappointed in a DC Animated movie ever! Injustice might have been better if they had did it as a limited series instead, maybe ten 30 minute episodes.
the "inking" on the knuckles was unsettling
Jeez, the Joker goes on a *couple* of killing sprees and people want to get all bent out of shape.
I still like the look on Batman's face when Superman kills joker "my job security" meme face
1:30 Superman’s “certain people need to be killed” is an argument for Superman to kill himself.
Batman’s argument of “nobody should have the power of life or death over any other” is an argument for Superman to be incarcerated in the hopes of redemption.
If the possibility of irredeemability exists, then everybody has the possibility of never being redeemed. If redemption is always a possibility, then everybody deserves a chance at it.
Let’s not forget that Superman MURDERED a child: Billy Batson. He did so while other “heroes” stood and watched.
2:00 “That’s Batman’s fault.”
And that’s why I unsubbed awhile ago. 😂
8:50 “The Slippery Slope Argument is an argument you present when you don’t have any other argument.”
😂 What?
The Slippery Slope Argument can be a used to make a valid argument, but the way it's done here in injustice, it is a fallacious argument.
"If the possibility of irredeemability exists, then everybody has the possibility of never being redeemed. If redemption is always a possibility, then everybody deserves a chance at it."
Well those two aren't mutually exclusive. And no one in the story sees them that way. Everyone deserves a chance of redemption. The question raised is what you do with those who shows through their actions that they cant be redeemed.
@@Koooo4 Exactly my point.
Superman killed The Joker and took The Joker’s place as the irredeemable one…so, by Superman’s logic, Superman should kill himself.
While The Joker may have used Superman to kill millions of children, Superman killed one face to face as he burned Billy’s brain out through his eyes.
That is Joker levels of evil, right there.
If you think Flash’s use of the slippery slope argument was faulty, then explain what Billy’s crime was that constituted an immediate execution with no trial.
If you ask me, that execution was EXACTLY the slippery slope that Flash alluded to.
Billy didn’t speed in a car. Billy didn’t smoke cigarettes. He didn’t break ANY laws.
His ONLY crime was to DISAGREE with Superman.
Where exactly is “disagreeing” on the “slippery slope”?
I would say it’s somewhere near the bottom, wouldn’t you?
The only thing fallacious about Barry’s slippery slope argument is that he didn’t take it far enough.
Superman took it farther than even Barry suggested he would.
@@josephcoon5809 No. His slippery slope argument wouldnt become less fallacious based on whether he turns out to be right or wrong. The argument is fallacious regardless.
Superman killing Billy isnt even part of the argument Barry was making. Superman wants to get rid of guns because they can be used to kill people. Barry then mentions cigarets which makes no sense for his slippery slope argument, as cigarets primarily kills the person smoking, and arent used to directly kill anyone else.
Speeding is a better argument as that regularly does kill people other than the person driving.
"Disagreeing" wouldnt even be on the slope at all. It's completely unrelated to the argument being made by the Flash. Billy wasnt killed because he was a danger to people. He was killed for questioning Supes authority and probably for using Lois' name while doing it. He was killed to teach the rest of the people a lesson.
*"Superman killed The Joker and took The Joker’s place as the irredeemable one"*
um, what? How would killing Joker make Superman irredeemable? At that point he was absolutely still redeemable. You make it sound like Superman believed that anyone who did even one bad thing were automatically irredeemable.
@@Koooo4 Christ…
So you think Superman is justified in everything he has done since killing The Joker? 😂
Ok. I’m done. You’re right. 😂
Let’s go, Rob! Been a minute but I’M HAPPY TO BE BACK!!!
Excellent Episode Rob. I never thought of Injustice in that way !!!
Other than the voice acting, especially Superman and the last 10 minutes of the film it was pretty okay. I still cannot believe that the Flash actually died after I called him the CW version.
As soon as I heard the length of the movie, I knew it would suck. You cannot fit allllllllll that EPICNESS into one single (short) animation. Injustice in the comics is an EVENT.
Lets just remember that Injustice origin is on a videogame by NetherRealm Studios/WB Games. And in game we already had a history mode, way before comics showed up.
This is how I felt about the Superman: Doomsday film. The Death of Superman through Reign of the Supermen with his ultimate return is probably my personal favorite run of comics because it's what got me reading them and I just loved the Connor Superboy as well as Steel. Doomsday was a massive disappointment because of how little of the story it told. The recent Death and Return of Superman was a huge improvement but had its own share of disappointing things. Think I just need to dig into storage and reread the comics.
No...he was clark kent before he was superman..he was just a regular dude before he was all powerful demigod...clark kent is not superman costume..clark kent is not a costume he use to blend in with human cuz he was raised as a human he was human..he was human being before he decided to become a superhero
I just like how Wonder Woman saw the footage Superman killing those teens/Joker followers and then it showed, unlike in the comics when she wasn’t able to
I felt the same way when animated planet hulk had came out. You get so invested in a comic book and when the movie comes out the changed when made the book
Tyranny is a subject that very few are willing to take a hard look at because each of us has an inner tyrant that we are afraid of. That is what always intrigued me about Injustice. That is part of Batman's issue, there is an inner tyrant that he is afraid of which feeds into the critique of humanity that runs through Injustice. In stories, we always want to picture ourselves as the hero who saves the day instead of the tyrant hellbent on destruction. Anti-hero stories strike a chord with the human spirit because it is a way of addressing our inner tyrant while still picturing ourselves as the hero. The Joker movie was so wildly popular because we didn't watch a man go insane, we watched a man become consumed by his inner tyrant, that movie aloud us to stare our inner tyrant in the face from a safe distance.
Thank you Rob. There u come again putting my thoughts into words. When they 1st announced the animated movie, I knew at least I had hoped it'd be a series like u said. And there was too much to just cramped in just 1. So that's why I felt the way I did and how they missed the core of a such beautiful peice which is the "injustice". And even b4 watching your video, I had made up my mind thinking whatever u have to say my beliefs were just that and like a sane person u came to the same conclusion like many like myself. And I'm a DC fan above all else and that movie was a failure, I mean I mostly gave up on their live actions but the animated was the ish to me but they botched it.
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First video I saw of you and it's really good. Great review. Your points are valid and you have good examples and references to back up your opinions. Though I think you speak too fast it's still a good video.
I completely agree with Rob. The worst thing in this movie was killing Flash and trying to make WW act like Superman was going too far when in the actual story she kept saying he was in the right.
So I’ve been watching his comics explained video for over a year and never knew about this channel?!!!!!!
13:36 he speaks the truth
I always say this it's all batman's fault, even when Superman put all these villains in a prison away from people, batman does not want that. The Batman, keep saving the joker , and putting him in jail, he escape and keep killing people. Did Batman, no kill the joker, in "killing joke" for raping Batgirl?
Thank you for your honest review of the movie, I have yet to read the injustice comic line but I played the two games and they from what little I read follow the game and I completely agree with your review, i couldn’t have said it any better and now I’m off the read the first injustice story line! Thank you again brother!
Have you seen Constantine: City of Demons? And what if so, what did you think of Constantine's reference to Benedict Cumberbatch's Doctor Strange?
They forgot the Hardest panel ever " Alfred punching superman"
One of my favorite parts of injustice was when Alfred beat the brakes off Superman lol
I really wanted to see superman join the yellow lantern Corp. That would've been a great cliff hanger for a sequel, or have the spectre pop in
Just discovered this channel. Now following. Go Rob
The Batman vs Superman part was basically BvS all over again. Ending the fight because of a common enemy. They really never learn.