That's exactly what makes this Raimi series so interesting : self sacrifice without getting anything in return. Society is straight up shitting on Peter , partly due to the fact that he is an missunderstood and passive introvert. a) His relation to Mary jane was horrible and she treated him like shit before she discovered he was spiderman b) Harry treated him like shit too after his father's death. All because Peter is an introvert who doesn't want to break the promise to Norman. c) His financial and academical life is suffering as well due to being spiderman. He is too shy to approach Jameson to get what he deserves like Brock did. This is accurate because people like Peter gets often stepped on by everyone in real life 4) You can do so much good for people but make 1 alleged mistake and people will witch hunt you. That's what the Daily Bugle does and the people actually believed all that rumors despite spider man saving their ass numerous times. In conclusion : Every normal person would become the Joker under these circumstamces rather than Spiderman but Peter choose the hard way instead. That's why Spiderman 3 is even more interesting. Symbiote Peter has had enough with all the bs from the people in his life. Him shitting on Harry is letting out all the hate and dark impulses he has been surpressing so far
@@leoa3799 Yeah, back in the early 2000s, Topher Grace was thrown out there as a candidate to play Peter Parker. I actually think Topher would have done a good job, maybey even better then Tobey Maguire, especially in the quips department. And Topher is slightly younger than Tobey, so although it wouldn't silence all the people that say Tobey was too old when he was cast at age 25, if you got a guy that was 2 or 3 years younger and 22 or 23, at least it would quiet some of them down.
That'd be cool. And considering how often a supervillain breaks in their either because they want to find Spider-man, want the Bugle to bait Spider-man, or have some kind of beef with Jameson, we'd still get plenty of Spider-man action. Plus I know for a fact that several of the Bugle's employees were supervillains in one continuity or another, so that'd be fun to see them planning their schemes. This movie trilogy alone had those a couple of those scenarios.
Don’t care if this Eddie Brock isn’t “comic accurate” or not, he’s a cool mirror reflection of Peter Parker without an Uncle Ben in his life and love that he has a personal connection to Peter, unlike Tom Hardy’s yet.
@@Silver_S847 I mean that this Eddie only could’ve become Venom because of Peter Parker, the fact they were competing for the same job, which lead to Peter exposing Eddie at the Bugle, which lead to him going to church and bonding with the symbiote, and all of that on paper is great motivation for Venom to go after Peter, even if it was a little rushed in the movie, compared to Tom Hardy’s Venom who hasn’t even met Spider-Man.
You know, JJ’s pride is also responsible for creating Venom; he asked for something impossible, and pushed Brock to do something wrong and dishonest. Oh well, at least JJ is willing to admit he is wrong.
I was around preschool age when I saw this, but for some reason I had the impression that they were former friends turned enemies, just like in Spectacular Spider-man. After more than a decade I come back and realize they detested each other from the start.
Me too, it looked like they had history already when Betty said that Jameson was busy so I always imagined he was one of Flash’s buddies or goons, but later on it turns out he was already a week in the business they just never really crossed on good terms
The fact Jameson made Peter and Eddie compete for the staff job irks me. If I was in his position I would have automatically given it to Peter right there on the spot because he had been there longer and been a great freelancer while Eddie was just hired a week ago as a freelancer. I would have said something like this: "I'm sorry Eddie but the staff job has to go to Peter because he's been working with us longer. However, if a staff position comes open, I'll consider you".
You know, Topher Grace actually isn’t doing a bad job when he’s just playing Eddie Brock. He was godawful when he was actually Venom, but he’s actually portraying the jerky, hotheaded foil to Peter Parker really well in this movie.
I think he played Venom well for how the character was written, he clearly pulled off the angle they wanted which was just Eddie Brock being even douchier. They just didn't write Venom very well, that's the issue
Wasn’t Eddie on the Bugle BEFORE Peter???? The first movie: “The problem is we don’t have a decent picture! Eddie has been at it for weeks” When I saw the movie as a teen, I picked up on that
When Eddie tried sucking up to JJ, I immediately thought of the gag in the original "Toy Story" in which Mr. Potato Head removes his mouth and makes a kiss-ass gesture.
I cannot stress this enough Topher Grace did a great job of portraying Eddie Brock and Venom at the same time he gets the Medal of Honor for playing two characters in one movie
Regardless of how the movie as a whole turned out. Scenes like this is why Sam Raimi and tobey Maguire make an awesome team. Can’t wait to see NWH and MOM
There's actually a little easter egg in the later season when eric returns to Wisconsin and beats up the guy at the Football game and Redd asks him "where'd you learn to fight like that " and eric is like " Spider-Man ! " the easter egg being that Erics character didn't appear in the previous season because Topher was filming for Spider-Man 3
Ya I remember when this movie first came out everyone hated it cause Eric foreman was playing venum in my opinion I think that's why they never made a 4th movie everyone that I know back then hated this movie cause of how they treated venum
1:44 God, Jameson makes me laugh 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 James: You want a staff job, or you want a staff. Anybody care about what I want? Man: I do James: Shut up. Get out
I like how, if you look closely, Brock's shirt actually looks a little damp....probably from all that colone! I wonder if the film makers did that on purpose 🤔
The only thing I like about the new one is the look physically he’s big but the new one he’s kinda of a good guy, venom is actually evil idk how to explain it but I like Spider-Man 3’s venom better
Raimi could make this eddie brock story better if he had more screan time and saving him as venom in 4th movie.he was so fun to watch and he is pretty great He had same personality as eddie brock from spectacular spiderman If only sony let raimi do his vision.venom could be best thing with green goblin.and focusing on eddie brock and cletus kasady storyline
He’s definitely like Gaston from Beauty and the Beast in terms of his character getting worse throughout the progression of the film (starts off as a arrogant buffoon, then reveals his true colors as a corrupt & shady person to get what he wants, and at the end reveals his deep true nature as a vengeful, evil, & murderous villain).
Topher played the perfect scummy stuck up sleazy opposite of Tobey’s Peter. He’s just so full of garbage and it’s perfect for this version of him. I’ll always prefer the scummy down on his luck versions that come from the comics and toons but this portrayal isn’t bad… Venom in this is pretty bad though
Its funny they say they just hired eddie and in the first movie it’s mentioned hes been working on getting a pic of spiderman for weeks(coincidently) i think the directors forgot and accidentally used the same story for eddie twice 😂😂 that or they hired him fired him rehired him and then refires him? Plothole 💀💀
Sam casted an actor to play eddie but the scene was cut from the movie, rc everbeck is the actors name plus the newspaper's in spiderman 2 have Eddie's full name on the bottom
Maybe the two characters are father and son with RC Everbeck being Eddie Brock Sr. and Topher Grace being Eddie Brock Jr. Notice how Eddie (played by Grace) states his full name in his meeting with Jameson and at church when praying. Maybe he is trying to distinguish himself from his dad (played by Everbeck) and that is the reason Jameson makes him and Peter compete for the staff job. His dad used to work there so Jameson thinks his son will be just as good as him.
Have any of you ever had a boss who refuses to call you by your real name and makes up some similar sounding name or one that starts with the same letter? I could never work for someone like that. Talk about disrespect.
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Always hated how JJ didn’t consider Peter for the staff job.
Jameson is responsible for Eddie getting fired because he wants to see how Spider Man is a criminal.
@@spiderverse7361 Eddie was responsible for Eddie getting fired. He wanted to cheat his way to the top
@@spiderverse7361 nah JJ was pretty pissed when Peter revealed Eddie’s fake photos
That's exactly what makes this Raimi series so interesting : self sacrifice without getting anything in return.
Society is straight up shitting on Peter , partly due to the fact that he is an missunderstood and passive introvert.
a) His relation to Mary jane was horrible and she treated him like shit before she discovered he was spiderman
b) Harry treated him like shit too after his father's death. All because Peter is an introvert who doesn't want to break the promise to Norman.
c) His financial and academical life is suffering as well due to being spiderman. He is too shy to approach Jameson to get what he deserves like Brock did. This is accurate because people like Peter gets often stepped on by everyone in real life
4) You can do so much good for people but make 1 alleged mistake and people will witch hunt you. That's what the Daily Bugle does and the people actually believed all that rumors despite spider man saving their ass numerous times.
In conclusion : Every normal person would become the Joker under these circumstamces rather than Spiderman but Peter choose the hard way instead.
That's why Spiderman 3 is even more interesting.
Symbiote Peter has had enough with all the bs from the people in his life. Him shitting on Harry is letting out all the hate and dark impulses he has been surpressing so far
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Eddie only tried to frame peter because he broke his camera
“You want a staff job, YOU want a staff job… does anyone care about what I want?”
“I do!”
“Shut up, get out.”
Cracks me up all the time !!😂
I thought it was "shut up you dont" this whole time? Ha
@@Algore-rk8mh I swear I heard that first but then read this comment and now I can’t unhear “shut up, get out”
Lmao!
calmly, not to raise the blood pressure
I never realised it when I was a Kid but Eddie plays a perfect sleazy office suck up
Topher Grace is a great Eddie Brock, the movie just does a horrible job at Venom.
@@lunch77 I wouldn’t say a good Eddie Brock but a good opposite sleazy douche version of Peter Parker
@@leoa3799 which was the angle they were going for w Eddie/Venom
@@AqwDragulum I know
@@leoa3799 Yeah, back in the early 2000s, Topher Grace was thrown out there as a candidate to play Peter Parker. I actually think Topher would have done a good job, maybey even better then Tobey Maguire, especially in the quips department. And Topher is slightly younger than Tobey, so although it wouldn't silence all the people that say Tobey was too old when he was cast at age 25, if you got a guy that was 2 or 3 years younger and 22 or 23, at least it would quiet some of them down.
I want a whole show about what goes on at the daily bugle.
Yeah same I think that would be so cool
The closest thing to that would be a show called the office
That'd be cool. And considering how often a supervillain breaks in their either because they want to find Spider-man, want the Bugle to bait Spider-man, or have some kind of beef with Jameson, we'd still get plenty of Spider-man action. Plus I know for a fact that several of the Bugle's employees were supervillains in one continuity or another, so that'd be fun to see them planning their schemes. This movie trilogy alone had those a couple of those scenarios.
I was hoping for a Daily Bugle show office-style that takes place in the MCU.
Marvel would make a lot of money out of that
Little did he know the sheer amount of dirt that would be put into his eye
lmfao
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God I love this community
"Gonna cry?"
he wanted spiderman with his hand in a cookie jar
Love how clear Betty makes it that she’s crushing on Peter
lol she is more of a wife to JJ 😂
I'm not sure how you see that. To me it just seems that she respects him.
Betty, Ursula and Gwen > Mary Jane
@@everythingisawesome2903 Factuals 🤝
@@outkast978 In a comic, she really has a crush on him.
Anyone else wish Peter had brought him a picture with literally Spiderman’s hand in a cookie jar?
same
Headline: Masked Menace Steals Food From Children
If you want the shots I'll take the staff job, double the money.
Don’t care if this Eddie Brock isn’t “comic accurate” or not, he’s a cool mirror reflection of Peter Parker without an Uncle Ben in his life and love that he has a personal connection to Peter, unlike Tom Hardy’s yet.
Yeah, I liked this Eddy for his sleazy-ness , even though his face on Venom wasn't THAT convincing...
He’s more comic-accurate than Tom Hardy.
When you say “personal connection to Peter” what exactly do you mean?
@@Silver_S847 I mean that this Eddie only could’ve become Venom because of Peter Parker, the fact they were competing for the same job, which lead to Peter exposing Eddie at the Bugle, which lead to him going to church and bonding with the symbiote, and all of that on paper is great motivation for Venom to go after Peter, even if it was a little rushed in the movie, compared to Tom Hardy’s Venom who hasn’t even met Spider-Man.
@@wachinimagaming4898 Oh
You know, JJ’s pride is also responsible for creating Venom; he asked for something impossible, and pushed Brock to do something wrong and dishonest. Oh well, at least JJ is willing to admit he is wrong.
How
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Well, yeah. He asked for the impossible, because he’s stubborn.
True but in JJ's defense, he couldn't have known about the extraterrestrial parasite that just crashed on earth. 😂
"Johnson quit, remember?"
_"You fired him."_
"Whatever."
xD
An exact interaction at Domino's. Yes, I was there.
Was looking for this comment LMAO
"He likes my shirt"
😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
I have to wonder sometimes if JK Simmons improvises most of Jameson’s lines 😂😂😂
The guy with the glasses is an underrated character.
Fun fact, that's the directors brother
@@BilalKhan-ng3ex So that's why he looks so similar lol. Could've looked up, but whatever xD
My nigga hoffman
HOFFMAN!
@@sireneater8028 LMFAOOOOOOOO
1:35 Peter: YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I SACRIFICED!?
Imagine if Peter Parker actually brought a picture of spider-man with his hand in a cookie jar. 😆
Headline: Masked Menace Steals Food From Children
Staff job right on the spot.
I want that alternate scene IMMEDIATELY
Pete heard that and said, "I gotchu"
JK Simmons as J. Jonah Jameson was a gem.
“Whoever brings me that picture gets a job.”
“What’re you waiting for Chinese New Year? Go, go, go!”
Alright JJ, I'm your mab!
I was around preschool age when I saw this, but for some reason I had the impression that they were former friends turned enemies, just like in Spectacular Spider-man. After more than a decade I come back and realize they detested each other from the start.
Bruh
Me too, it looked like they had history already when Betty said that Jameson was busy so I always imagined he was one of Flash’s buddies or goons, but later on it turns out he was already a week in the business they just never really crossed on good terms
1:14 I love the fact even Peter was like the fuck this guy smoking
His face is like, “Oh, what an egotist- Oh. Oh, you’re one of those people. Alright.”
When he called jj the greatest of all time I heard a loud sucking noise.
1:23 smooooth 😂
What a suck up 😂
"What's that smell?"
"Stinks doesn't it?"
Way too much cologne. Too strong.
Your profile is insanely cringey.
The “shut up” always gets me 😂
Shut up get out 💀💀
The fact Jameson made Peter and Eddie compete for the staff job irks me. If I was in his position I would have automatically given it to Peter right there on the spot because he had been there longer and been a great freelancer while Eddie was just hired a week ago as a freelancer. I would have said something like this:
"I'm sorry Eddie but the staff job has to go to Peter because he's been working with us longer. However, if a staff position comes open, I'll consider you".
But that would be uncharacteristics of JJ.
Cope
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Who cares dawg
good point
Jameson: Get Out! That is the dumbest idea you ever had...
This is good context for that scene where Peter exposes Eddies photos to the editor. This deserves more views
1:08 LMFAO! XD "It's not just about, flag poles."
hahahaha I love the shade! He was such a douche!
I like Topher graces song,I always sing it in this scene
You know, Topher Grace actually isn’t doing a bad job when he’s just playing Eddie Brock. He was godawful when he was actually Venom, but he’s actually portraying the jerky, hotheaded foil to Peter Parker really well in this movie.
I personally liked how he played Venom. It was just terrible writing wich made him look bad at playing Venom imo.
"my spider sense is tingling... if you know what im talking about"
🤢🤮
I think he played Venom well for how the character was written, he clearly pulled off the angle they wanted which was just Eddie Brock being even douchier. They just didn't write Venom very well, that's the issue
@@the.abhiram.r I did say he was pretty bad as Venom.
@@shreyassarangi6106 it rushed
1:42 It’s only been 4 years Robbie(according to the timeline of these movies anyway)
4 years is still a long time to be working freelance especially since Eddie had only been there for a week and was being considered over Peter
Peter: You’ll never get that shot.
Brock: Oh we’ll see.
The daily bugle was literally the the father of the office
“It’s Brock sir, Edward Brock Junior.”
“Who?”
😂😂😂😂😂
Wasn’t Eddie on the Bugle BEFORE Peter???? The first movie:
“The problem is we don’t have a decent picture! Eddie has been at it for weeks”
When I saw the movie as a teen, I picked up on that
I like Bernstein’s 🤣
They should’ve introduced Eddie Brock in this but not have him turn into Venom until the next film.
Thank you
1:15 "I have a girl that I intend to marry" Then why is he making advances on Betty?
Not to mention he and Gwen only went for a coffee once so she was never his girlfriend to begin with
I think he was just lying to get that staff job
Would have loved to see Betty call him out on that, but she probably knew JJ would have fired him on the spot. She’s sassy, but not malicious
When Eddie tried sucking up to JJ, I immediately thought of the gag in the original "Toy Story" in which Mr. Potato Head removes his mouth and makes a kiss-ass gesture.
I cannot stress this enough Topher Grace did a great job of portraying Eddie Brock and Venom at the same time he gets the Medal of Honor for playing two characters in one movie
"Shut up! Get out." 🤣 😂 🤣 😂 🤣
Jk simons is a king.
Thats true.
Facts
Broccoli here beat you to it!
It's Brock sir!
Oh those were the good old days
1:07 🤣🤣🤣
What?
Hu
After awhile, their rivalry grew into hatred when Peter breaks free from the symbiote's control and Eddie becoming it's new host.
Pre-BullyMaguire
Regardless of how the movie as a whole turned out. Scenes like this is why Sam Raimi and tobey Maguire make an awesome team. Can’t wait to see NWH and MOM
And this movie turned out good, maybe no where near the level of first two movies but still good
Someone tell Donna to get Eric under control.
😂
accurate or not, i thought Topher Grace did great in this role
This Brock is way way more accurate than Hardy's version.
I love the moment how did Eddie tell this woman that she's beautiful. ❤
1:13
Ah shit, here we go again
I want Spider Man 4 😁😁
"you fired him"
"Whatever"
😂😂😂
I can't help but see him as Eric Foreman instead of Eddie Brock.
yea it just doesnt work for me, dont think it ever will
There's actually a little easter egg in the later season when eric returns to Wisconsin and beats up the guy at the Football game and Redd asks him "where'd you learn to fight like that " and eric is like " Spider-Man ! " the easter egg being that Erics character didn't appear in the previous season because Topher was filming for Spider-Man 3
Ya I remember when this movie first came out everyone hated it cause Eric foreman was playing venum in my opinion I think that's why they never made a 4th movie everyone that I know back then hated this movie cause of how they treated venum
@@matthewhorn1203 also Raimi never wanted Venom here
1:44 God, Jameson makes me laugh
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
James: You want a staff job, or you want a staff. Anybody care about what I want?
Man: I do
James: Shut up. Get out
Peter is like wtf is this guy going on about ?
"No offense, flag-poles, haha, whatever..."
💀Betty coming out with a roast
"He likes my shirt" 🤨??
💀💀💀💀
It’s amazing how this version of Eddie Brock went from a pretentious suck up to the the most evil villain in the trilogy.
I like how, if you look closely, Brock's shirt actually looks a little damp....probably from all that colone!
I wonder if the film makers did that on purpose 🤔
No Eddie you will never get that shot lol
Good job 👍
The random singing in the beginning tho😆
idc what people say topher grace’s eddie is better than tom hardy.
😂
The only thing I like about the new one is the look physically he’s big but the new one he’s kinda of a good guy, venom is actually evil idk how to explain it but I like Spider-Man 3’s venom better
@@DrizzyJuan yes. eddie brock supposed to be a jerk.
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His Eddie looks more comic accurate at least but Tom Hardy's venom looks better
Topher Grace > Tom Hardy
As Eddie Brock only
I wish I was that envelope.
As eddie he is cool as venom he is horror, scary and terify
"You'll never get that picture"
"Oh, we'll see"
it would be so funny if eddie brock was played by zach woods (gabe from the office)
What was the smell?
I don't get it.
Brock was wearing too much cologne
Brock uses cologne to make people feel good about him but he uses too much of it and he gets the opposite result lmao
betty licking that envelope tho
Raimi could make this eddie brock story better if he had more screan time and saving him as venom in 4th movie.he was so fun to watch and he is pretty great
He had same personality as eddie brock from spectacular spiderman
If only sony let raimi do his vision.venom could be best thing with green goblin.and focusing on eddie brock and cletus kasady storyline
venom isn't Eddie Brock. He's the symbiote itself. Eddie was just a host.
@@WRL13 yeah i know
He was best host of venom
No, Eddie from Spectacular Spider-Man is more noble. For example, he helped turn Connors back into a human
Eddie Brock more like Jim from Edward Scissorhands, Gaston from Beauty and The Beast and Hal Stewart from Megamind
He’s definitely like Gaston from Beauty and the Beast in terms of his character getting worse throughout the progression of the film (starts off as a arrogant buffoon, then reveals his true colors as a corrupt & shady person to get what he wants, and at the end reveals his deep true nature as a vengeful, evil, & murderous villain).
This is how Eric plans to pay for Donna’s ring after Red fired him from the Price Mart??
This situation is the same as having the nut hand in poker. You know you're going to win no matter what.
You fired him..
Whatever
I Believe I'd Be A Great Photographer
1:07 Nice foreshadowing to what he'll do later
Topher played the perfect scummy stuck up sleazy opposite of Tobey’s Peter. He’s just so full of garbage and it’s perfect for this version of him.
I’ll always prefer the scummy down on his luck versions that come from the comics and toons but this portrayal isn’t bad… Venom in this is pretty bad though
with his one single idea I want to have fun in the army
Maybe it’s because he’s Eric foreman but for some reason I’m rooting for brock
Eddie Brock Beats Peter Parker
every movie they move on a different office
Jameson: "You want a staff job. And you want a staff job. Anybody care what I want?"
Me: "Hell no."
Exactly 😂😂😂
Shut up, get out
Shut up child
From a cool guy to horror alien
Does Eddie ever stop talking???
He does when he is fired.
This Proves That The Clip From Spider-Man 1 Or 2 Is Not About Eddie Brock . "Eddie's Been On It For Weeks" Is Another Guy Who Has A Same Name
1:24-1:32 hahaha
Its funny they say they just hired eddie and in the first movie it’s mentioned hes been working on getting a pic of spiderman for weeks(coincidently) i think the directors forgot and accidentally used the same story for eddie twice 😂😂 that or they hired him fired him rehired him and then refires him? Plothole 💀💀
Sam casted an actor to play eddie but the scene was cut from the movie, rc everbeck is the actors name plus the newspaper's in spiderman 2 have Eddie's full name on the bottom
1:42 this line is so weird since before they hired Peter in the first movie Robbie said Eddie's been on it for weeks so he's worked there before Peter
@@willpow05
Thats what im saying i think they forgot they used eddies name in the first movie
Maybe the two characters are father and son with RC Everbeck being Eddie Brock Sr. and Topher Grace being Eddie Brock Jr. Notice how Eddie (played by Grace) states his full name in his meeting with Jameson and at church when praying. Maybe he is trying to distinguish himself from his dad (played by Everbeck) and that is the reason Jameson makes him and Peter compete for the staff job. His dad used to work there so Jameson thinks his son will be just as good as him.
You want a staff job and you want a staff job. Doesn’t anybody care about what I want?
*I do*
*SHUT UP AND GET OUT*
😂
Wow
Thank goodness the symbiote made him assert his dominance
Otherwise eddie would've trample all over him
1:35
Have any of you ever had a boss who refuses to call you by your real name and makes up some similar sounding name or one that starts with the same letter? I could never work for someone like that. Talk about disrespect.
Ninja was great in this movie
1:15 her assitant
Eddie was such a suck up that it almost got him the staff job.
Red needs to come and set him straight
Jameson character is very much like Vince McMahon
ur FIRERRRRRRRRRRRRR'D *no chance..danananana, no chance in hell
Make Raimi Spider-Man 4
Until nOw i am wondering what is that smell they are talking about? In a serious explanation please
Too much cologne