I can't believe so many people are complaining about the tempo. It's live music! Your adrenaline starts pumping and you play a bit faster. It's very common.
Aaron Stark exactly! ccr especially would sometimes play their times twice as fast live. most bands were also fueled by cocaine and amphetamines so that can contribute too.
In an interview Darcy stated that the band often put little weights on their fingers for rehearsals to slow their hands down. For the show they would remove the weights and their hands would move much faster now, speeding up the songs.
Siamese Dream album is just absolutely timeless. One of those very rare records you can play front to back and always come back for more. Just ridiculous!!!
god damn, what an incredible performance. best performance of Cherub i have seen or heard. Jimmy's improvised fills in some parts are flawless and just fit naturally. such an incredible drummer, top 10 in the world, even to this day.
I know a lot of people are going to criticise for going too fast and there is some merit to that but in my experience when you're actually there witnessing it in person you don't notice it as much. it just kind of rocks.
KingGeorge24 I love when this happens in person because it just means the band and the crowd are feeding off the same adrenaline rush. I’ve experienced both sides and don’t know until seeing/hearing playback later haha
I've been to concerts where the band plays exactly like their studio album, maybe they were faking it in concert, and that's boring because I could have just stayed home and listened on the stereo instead.
@@bigsky3072 i also grew up in the 70s, but my take on the 90s is not that it was the best decade for music, but the last great one. i've put 60s, 70s 80s and 90s "best of" collections together, and i came up with one 60s, three 70s, six 80s and only three 90s discs of roughly sixteen songs per. IMHO, 1980-1985 (my take is that music started declining badly in 1986) has so much amazing stuff, with the new wave, pop rock and "metal", that it easily surpasses the 90s. as an aside, i also took a lot of incomplete studio greatest hits collections of various artists from the 60s, 70s, 80s and made them whole.
@@amboogarlard.1083 Jimmy Chamberlain is one of the tightest drummers in modern drumming. I have never heard anyone talk down to his ability to do the main job of a drummer in a band.
One of their most powerful and original Guitar intro of the 90s..A fantastic debut Song in an awesome album as Siamese Dreams has been.. Incredible live show with the outstanding dark charisma of Billy Corgan...Wow this was Music
Extra mad kudos to the sound-mixer on this performance!: the guitar, bass, drums and Corgan's vocals are in perfect balance -- although it'd be nice to hear James and Darcy's vocals more clearly, but that's only a minor criticism
Billy's guitar solo still makes the hair on my arms stand up to this day. Only one other guitarist does that, but nonetheless it's a moment of euphoria that just stops time for me. A band that was ahead of their time and gone too soon. I'll take the Pumpkins over bands like FFDP or Disturbed any day.
Theres a guitarist who i saw live in 1978 when i was 18. He is Adrian Belew and David Bowie wanted the world to hear what he could do, so he stole him from Frank Zappa and he became lead guitarist for Bowie on the 1978 Heroes/Isolar World Tour. Adrian since went on to blow minds worldwide as guitar for Talking Heads in 1980 and then joined King Crimson. Adrians 5min intro to Station To Station live in 78 blew me away lights out. Billy's love for Bowie is widely known and they played together once i know of. Billy's Fender Strat howls, screams and groans just like Adrian's Strat and Billy would of been inspired by Adrian to produce that pyrotechnic sound. The Cherub Rock solo is like its in its own universe, its that great. Adrian has since gone on to play with so many artists. He is a legend and theres nobody other than he and Billy who can produce that sound. They were both playing really old beat up same models, its amazing.
Jimmy is like some perfectly tuned machine. Unbelievable. I always loved this song but when I finally understood the lyrics and their meaning it's ten times as powerful.
Pumpkins Lyrics "Cherub Rock" Freak out And give in Doesn't matter what you believe in Stay cool And be somebody's fool this year 'cause they know Who is righteous, what is bold So I'm told Who wants honey As long as there's some money Who wants that honey? Hipsters unite Come align for the big fight to rock for you But beware All those angels with their wings glued on 'cause deep down We are frightened and we're scared If you don't stare Let me out Tell me all of your secrets Cannot help but believe this is true Tell me all of your secrets I know, I know, I know Should have listened when I was told
He loved that outfit so much he also wore it on dates, to the beach, the supermarket, barbecues, softball games, bowling, ping pong tournaments, weddings, birthday parties, mowing the lawn, baseball games, boxing matches, poker nights with friends, the library, video store and a great many other places.
@Ahhh Ahhh You are right. If you watch the concert at the Brixton Academy in 1996 (filmed for MTV), you can see that one of the sleeves of his Zero t-shirt is torn behind.
So true !!!! 😭He told stern now I’m a nobody so he shaved his head off and put zero on his shirt I believe the shirts went up a couple times for auction and probably went for a nice fortune
Jimmy Chamberlain is murdering it.... Think about it, they had just released a double album and were probably re-exploring stuff from Siamese Dream, but with more of an edge and rock heavy. They hit the nail on the head as far as I'm concerned.
Pumpkins Lyrics "Cherub Rock" Freak out And give in Doesn't matter what you believe in Stay cool And be somebody's fool this year 'cause they know Who is righteous, what is bold So I'm told Who wants honey As long as there's some money Who wants that honey? Hipsters unite Come align for the big fight to rock for you But beware All those angels with their wings glued on 'cause deep down We are frightened and we're scared If you don't stare Who wants honey As long as there's some money Who wants that honey? Let me out Let me out Let me out Let me out Tell me all of your secrets Cannot help but believe this is true Tell me all of your secrets I know, I know, I know Should have listened when I was told Who wants honey As long as there is some money Who wants that honey? Let me out Let me out Let me out Let me out
+Connor Fin that's interesting Connor I just hope it's better than monuments to an elegy which was a disappointment. Nonetheless I will look forward to it
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I can't believe so many people are complaining about the tempo. It's live music! Your adrenaline starts pumping and you play a bit faster. It's very common.
Aaron Stark exactly! ccr especially would sometimes play their times twice as fast live. most bands were also fueled by cocaine and amphetamines so that can contribute too.
In an interview Darcy stated that the band often put little weights on their fingers for rehearsals to slow their hands down. For the show they would remove the weights and their hands would move much faster now, speeding up the songs.
Yep. I remember when I used to play in bands (eons ago) and our live versions were always about a minute faster than practice (or recordings).
not when it ruins the essence of the tune.
@@keithhinchcliffe5629 in this case it doesn’t
Jimmy Chamberlain, WHAT A DRUMMER! Incredible.
Concordo!
He made Siamese Dream so very special. most dynamic and vivid drumplay ever. Love it
...agreed Jimmy is a great drummer, in my top 3 with Bonham & Peart, with Tommy Aldridge at 4!!
That's my exact list as well. Nice. Jimmy was easily the best drummer of the 90's
Yes, He is!!!!
Siamese Dream album is just absolutely timeless. One of those very rare records you can play front to back and always come back for more. Just ridiculous!!!
Yep, the entire album was awesome
@@Mellonpopr was ... no is and will always be awesome:)
The greatest albums are always created in struggle and dismay.
well you summed that up
Ah, the Billy I miss. The emotionally charged and involved onstage Billy just rippin' it.
buzzcrushtrendkill Yeah now this day in age he just stands on stage looking bored and probably wishing he was somewhere else.
Moon On The Man age happens
@@moonontheman1657 Probably wishing he were on a farm hanging out with some horses!
First song ever heard from SP, after 10 secs I knew we were meant for life.
Me too, instantly hooked.
Same
i feel that after mayonaise
Heard today and was hooked!!!
me 3
I love the way that Billy Corgan loves the sound of the music he is making. Can you imagine having such a job?
Imagine being Billy corgan listening to smashing pumpkins 😁😁😁
god damn, what an incredible performance. best performance of Cherub i have seen or heard.
Jimmy's improvised fills in some parts are flawless and just fit naturally.
such an incredible drummer, top 10 in the world, even to this day.
One of the GOATs
I mean he's no Lars Ulrich, but he's ok.
The whole concert is legendary. Search for "smashing pumpkins rockpalast 1996" ...
Eric Cartman's Strength and Power lol
I'll just leave this here....allow for 2 minutes or so for the soundboard people to get the audio working properly.
I know a lot of people are going to criticise for going too fast and there is some merit to that but in my experience when you're actually there witnessing it in person you don't notice it as much. it just kind of rocks.
KingGeorge24 I love when this happens in person because it just means the band and the crowd are feeding off the same adrenaline rush. I’ve experienced both sides and don’t know until seeing/hearing playback later haha
I've been to concerts where the band plays exactly like their studio album, maybe they were faking it in concert, and that's boring because I could have just stayed home and listened on the stereo instead.
The 90’s were hands down best decade for music. Period
Yup. I was born in 1968, so i grew up in the 70's, but other than that, the 90's were great, after that, everything went to hell
@@bigsky3072 i also grew up in the 70s, but my take on the 90s is not that it was the best decade for music, but the last great one.
i've put 60s, 70s 80s and 90s "best of" collections together, and i came up with one 60s, three 70s, six 80s and only three 90s discs of roughly sixteen songs per.
IMHO, 1980-1985 (my take is that music started declining badly in 1986) has so much amazing stuff, with the new wave, pop rock and "metal", that it easily surpasses the 90s.
as an aside, i also took a lot of incomplete studio greatest hits collections of various artists from the 60s, 70s, 80s and made them whole.
lol at James' mic being louder than the others near the end. Great performance! Pure energy.
Chamberlain's an amazing drummer. My heart goes out to him struggling to adjust to the band being everywhere with the tempo throughout.
The band struggle because he is speeding up and slowing down... he is great but time keeping is his weakness.
It is kind of the other way around man - this is coming from a drummer
@@amboogarlard.1083 Jimmy Chamberlain is one of the tightest drummers in modern drumming. I have never heard anyone talk down to his ability to do the main job of a drummer in a band.
@@amboogarlard.1083 Billy came in way fast on the intro. Don't get me wrong, still amazing.
I could listen to that riff all day.
Boy, they must have had to go somewhere right after this song 😂
They were in a god damn haste...😂🤣
I guess youve never been to a rock concert before lol
@@colins7771 I guess you never learned how to read between the lines lol
Looks like Billy had to go for a piss.
@@tankerock I tried reading through your mom’s line but it was, too furry, dark and slippery 🤭
One of their most powerful and original Guitar intro of the 90s..A fantastic debut Song in an awesome album as Siamese Dreams has been.. Incredible live show with the outstanding dark charisma of Billy Corgan...Wow this was Music
When you’re playing a gig but forgot you had an appointment
The opening riff came to Bill from the devine power it flashed into his mind when he was driving a car. Powerful stuff.
cannot get enough of the 1990´s stuff
I would pay all of the monies and honnies ever to go back and time to see this in person...
i would for them a d nirvana
Me too!!
Eric Lipe wow when did I put this
They’re touring in a few months.
That fuckin idiot refused D'arcy to join the band back, they're not the same even if James came back.. Billy is old and sings like shit nowadays
Recorded 21 years ago yet sounds 100% better than versions uploaded from the last year. Bring back the boosted big muff Billy!
Extra mad kudos to the sound-mixer on this performance!: the guitar, bass, drums and Corgan's vocals are in perfect balance -- although it'd be nice to hear James and Darcy's vocals more clearly, but that's only a minor criticism
0:26 The look of confidence and swagger on Billy’s face when Jimmy hits his stride
What an amazing time for SP! The melancholy tour was the epitome of MAGIC!
Billy's screams are my reason for living. 🤘❤️
Billy's guitar solo still makes the hair on my arms stand up to this day. Only one other guitarist does that, but nonetheless it's a moment of euphoria that just stops time for me. A band that was ahead of their time and gone too soon. I'll take the Pumpkins over bands like FFDP or Disturbed any day.
Theres a guitarist who i saw live in 1978 when i was 18. He is Adrian Belew and David Bowie wanted the world to hear what he could do, so he stole him from Frank Zappa and he became lead guitarist for Bowie on the 1978 Heroes/Isolar World Tour.
Adrian since went on to blow minds worldwide as guitar for Talking Heads in 1980 and then joined King Crimson. Adrians 5min intro to Station To Station live in 78 blew me away lights out.
Billy's love for Bowie is widely known and they played together once i know of. Billy's Fender Strat howls, screams and groans just like Adrian's Strat and Billy would of been inspired by Adrian to produce that pyrotechnic sound. The Cherub Rock solo is like its in its own universe, its that great. Adrian has since gone on to play with so many artists. He is a legend and theres nobody other than he and Billy who can produce that sound. They were both playing really old beat up same models, its amazing.
I know what you mean when you say the music makes your hair stand up on your arm. It's like a music - gasm.
@Byron Sonne
J. Yuenger? LaSexorcisto is the greatest driving album of all time. Gotta be somewhere fast? Pop that in and get to rowing those gears!
I wish I could go back 25 years ago. Be a boy and listen to SP all day.
To play this song this fast, and almost flawless is amazing. Wonderful video. Thanks.
Unbelievable performance!!.. Pure music.. No superficial moves!!
Jimmy Chamberlain is a killer drummer and has come out the other side better than ever...
Jimmy is like some perfectly tuned machine. Unbelievable. I always loved this song but when I finally understood the lyrics and their meaning it's ten times as powerful.
best rendition of Cherub Rock ever!
Darcy is 100% responsible for my infatuation with female bass players.
She was fuckin gorgeous and a good bass player
Darcy's great... but for me it was Sharin Foo... and Kim Gordon... Kim Deal... Britta Phillips... Tina Weymouth... Michael Steele...
She's the reason I play bass..and also the reason I play a Fender Jazz bass!! I love her!
Try Tal Wilkenfeld…
but billy corgan do all the bass stuff on recordings because darcy commits alot of errors.. lol
One of the best intro of Rock and how I spent the time without knowing this until now...makes me realize that they were underrated...
Those drums!! This is amazing!!
Awesome performance… 4:09… no smartphones, just applause. Good old times!
This video is addictive...
Billy what a guitar player
Genius song writer
The band look and sound amazing here
That God it's not unplugged! Hard charging and in your face...love it!
God D'Arcy was a babe back then.
yeah
D'Arcy will always be a babe!
correction, Darcy will always be a babe
I so had the hots for her back then.
If you think a junkie is hot is your thing, well then be my guest.
"it's too fast..."
aww poor baby never been to a live show before lol
Wow! Playing the legendary Rockpalast no less!
29 years old corgan rocky our socks off.. =)
Maybe the best Cherub Rock I've heard. Props Alex.
Arguably my favourite SP performance ever!
The Pumpkins at their very best. Thank you to this site for all the live shows that I sadly missed in Toronto years ago.
Great guitar, rough vocals, still have mad love for SP. They where my main band growing up!
What a time to be alive….90’s
Billy Corgan’s voice has a wonderful power in this version…I love it!!!
Cherub Rock MOST innovative guitar song of the 90s
I want more Darcy vocals!!
Oh I like this version very much🔥🔥🤘🏻🤘🏻🎸🎸
Freak out... Give in...
Words to live by in 2021..
unbelievable power this group has!
You give me a fucking kazoo and I'll write you a good song....(Billy Corgan quote)
i've been to the Smashing Pumkins Tour in Germany in 1996... in Hannover... surprisingly, nobody did film with a smartphone back than...
1:20 Chamberlain got the tempo so fast that made corgan laugh cause he couldn't sing properly
This was an awesome tour!!
Pumpkins Lyrics
"Cherub Rock"
Freak out
And give in
Doesn't matter what you believe in
Stay cool
And be somebody's fool this year
'cause they know
Who is righteous, what is bold
So I'm told
Who wants honey
As long as there's some money
Who wants that honey?
Hipsters unite
Come align for the big fight to rock for you
But beware
All those angels with their wings glued on
'cause deep down
We are frightened and we're scared
If you don't stare
Let me out
Tell me all of your secrets
Cannot help but believe this is true
Tell me all of your secrets
I know, I know, I know
Should have listened when I was told
still brilliant & fresh!
Live and just like the album. Still magic to hear.
More than 24 years ago. Good time, the 90s.
I can't love this enough🤘
i really have no idea why i never went to see these guys.
0:22 really cool
THIS SONG IS OPIUM I CANNOT STOP LISTENING TO IT
So, Billy just actually wore that outfit for like 3 years straight, didn't he?
He loved that outfit so much he also wore it on dates, to the beach, the supermarket, barbecues, softball games, bowling, ping pong tournaments, weddings, birthday parties, mowing the lawn, baseball games, boxing matches, poker nights with friends, the library, video store and a great many other places.
@Ahhh Ahhh You are right. If you watch the concert at the Brixton Academy in 1996 (filmed for MTV), you can see that one of the sleeves of his Zero t-shirt is torn behind.
yep. zero is a character. like a costume
So true !!!! 😭He told stern now I’m a nobody so he shaved his head off and put zero on his shirt I believe the shirts went up a couple times for auction and probably went for a nice fortune
Crazy how they don’t look like the band who played this song on Siamese Dream era. Each SP era is like a new band. Love it
No cell phones, so cool.
I was there, 3000 years ago
So much power!!!
We'll never get these times back
Love the adrenaline of this song
that wall of sound tho ❤
Magnificent show!!!
I remember, as a teen, wishing he would slow it down, and and work on the vocals.. He has done both of those.
Thanks for sharing. Can't wait to see more!
This is THE only line up
D'arcy .. So damn hot
Holy sih*t ,, pure power ! I miss this SP
Nirvana is obviously the most influential band of the 90s, but I think it’s officially time to declare Pumpkins the best band overall of the 90s.
The pumpkins had some great songs for sure...but they are/were no Nirvana...
@@xerb9920yeah agree like they had some real cool and badass music but were nowhere near nirvanna's level in terms of mainstream appeal
Those drums!!!
Jimmy Chamberlain is murdering it.... Think about it, they had just released a double album and were probably re-exploring stuff from Siamese Dream, but with more of an edge and rock heavy. They hit the nail on the head as far as I'm concerned.
Jimmy rocks,what a fucken drummer.
Awesome dude.... Thanks a lot
Yeah 🎸🎸🎸🤟🤟🤟
Pumpkins Lyrics
"Cherub Rock"
Freak out
And give in
Doesn't matter what you believe in
Stay cool
And be somebody's fool this year
'cause they know
Who is righteous, what is bold
So I'm told
Who wants honey
As long as there's some money
Who wants that honey?
Hipsters unite
Come align for the big fight to rock for you
But beware
All those angels with their wings glued on
'cause deep down
We are frightened and we're scared
If you don't stare
Who wants honey
As long as there's some money
Who wants that honey?
Let me out
Let me out
Let me out
Let me out
Tell me all of your secrets
Cannot help but believe this is true
Tell me all of your secrets
I know, I know, I know
Should have listened when I was told
Who wants honey
As long as there is some money
Who wants that honey?
Let me out
Let me out
Let me out
Let me out
Killer video, killer song! \m/
back when they made great music let's all hope their next album goes back to this sound
+Jason Bowman They said its gonna sound more like Adore.
+Connor Fin that's interesting Connor I just hope it's better than monuments to an elegy which was a disappointment. Nonetheless I will look forward to it
Nah it’ll sound like this
damn, Jimmy is jacked!
especially considering he was addicted to smack
love this vid, theykilled it!
when you only have 4:15m to play a 5min song... interesting up tempo and it works
I'm tripping on lsd and I came here ... WELL played sir 😂
1:12 what is Darcy doing with her mouth?
It's like the whole band was coked tf up for this. So fuckin fast but somehow still holding together
Bad ass set clean riffs
Chamberlain is a beast on drums
the expression of everyone besides billy corgan always makes it seem like they were blackmailed into performing in like 90% of their performances
They probably were hired guns at this point at least.
God Bill Burr can jam!
Yer God Damn Right!
SP golden ages !!! :-(
Just play it with 0,75 of the speed, and sounds like the original song.
0.85 is actually perfect ;)
Darcy is awesome.... Can we get the Darcy cam please ?? lol
I can’t listen to this in my car as it’s impossible to go slower than 150