I remember skipping school and being at the door of the cd store waiting for them to open the day Mellon Collie came out....and then sitting in the parking lot listening to it for the first time in complete awe....words can't describe it....❤❤
This gave me chills reading this! I miss browsing the CD stores and my absolute favorite was blockbuster music, where you could actually listen to the albums on headphones before buying them!
Melloncollie tour. IL . I think Bloomington. A near perfect performance that had the place stunned. Changed me forever. I have the ticket and cherish it as the greatest show I have ever seen. No bullshit.
+danny355 it sure was incredible.. being a teen in the 90's was a blessing. I got to see some of the most amazing performances anyone could ever ask for. Though I must say, the "pumpkins" now are not what they were - Billy still puts on a wonderful show - his current musicians are a talented group - one is grateful to see Jimmy again as no one could ever duplicate his style during his absences - alas, it will never be this again (as 1996).
+danny355 I sat on the front row in Charlotte NC, saw them in Columbia SC, Atlanta GA, and Chapel Hill NC, this tour and this song in particular......ive seen hundreds of shows and bands, I dont know that I will ever see anything like what I did. That Charlotte Show from Feb of 1997 was insane. Ive never seen a band so on fire yet so artistic play with the amount of passion and confidence this one did. It was like watching something from outerspace. We got a near 40 minute version of Silverfuck also that night and random jams. Rhino was even early in the set. in Columbia SC Billy was sick vomited in between songs and kept going. Mind blown
Mellon Collie would’ve been a 5-star single LP. Personally I think it suffered from a lack of more editing. Tonight Tonight Muzzle Zero Bullet with Butterfly Wings Porcelina of the Vast Oceans 33 1979 Thru the Eyes of Ruby Here is No Why To Forgive Bodies XYU By Starlight One album, 13 songs, not a single bit of filler.
Oddly enough, I believe Siamese Dream could’ve EASILY been a double album and possibly been better. LP2: Frail and Bedazzled Drown She Says Set the Ray to Jerry Pissant Hello Kitty Kat Blew Away Starla Glynis Moleasskiss Blue Plume STP Tulips Whir Spaced Purr Snickety Soothe Apathy’s Last Kiss Siamese Dream That’s 20 songs they had at the time that were all pretty good. Cut down to 13 more songs, still a perfect record.
@@Tyrannosaurine you're right. If you put the songs from Pices Iscariot with Siamease Dream you would have I think the best double album of all time. I know it's all subjective and I give credit to MCIS as being a game changer in the 90s. But there is something that those first couple albums do to me that MCIS just cant compare to. IMHO of course.✌
people who say D'arcy couldnt play dont know what the fuck theyre talking about.....she may not have contributed creatively to the writting of the albums, mostly because Billy was the creative driving force behind the band and that's totally fine but anyone who can stand there on stage and play an entire Pumpkins set start to finish complete wth all the technical nuances of their sets during that time is obviously an excellent bassist and deserves some credit as a musician. Plus, she was visibly creative and added an aesthetic to the band that was obviously needed. And she was sexy as fuck and that didnt hurt things.
Agreed. When you watch a full show from the Siamese or Mellon Collie tours you see D'arcy doing all kinds of stuff, palming her pick and switching to fingerstyle for mellower parts, adjusting her volume and tone knobs on the fly, etc... she was definitely a real bassist. She also played a lot on MCIS, Adore and Machina. Unfortunately Billy himself fueled a lot of that fire, he said James could barely play too... it was only really Gish and Siamese Dream where most of it is Billy and Jimmy Chamberlain (and even then you had D'arcy singing and James coming up with what would become Soma and Mayonnaise on his acoustic). It was probably Vieuphoria that solidified my love of the Pumpkins more than anything when I was a kid back in the day. These 4 were a kick-ass band.
Thank you! Any bassist who can play with the geniuses Billy, and Jimmy has to be pretty good. I think a lot of the reason Billy had to play the bass parts on the early albums was she didn't have time to learn all the bass parts to all the songs before they went to the studio. Billy was cranking out songs at an insane rate back in the early 90s, and Billy already knew how he wanted them to be. Porcelina has one of my favorite bass lines of any song.
I bought the Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness cd the day it came out, after buying the cd I ran home to listen to it and when I heard it for the first time it blew my mind, my dad always since I turned 10 years at the end of each month he gave me 50 dollars to buy the rock cds I wanted, obviously for him to give me that money I had to work in the house trimming the lawn, washing the dishes, tidying the basement and the attic and other tasks , I did it with all the pleasure in the world because I knew that at the end of the month I could buy the music I wanted, my dad is a good man and he has been my angel all my life.
I used to ride a bike 8 miles to a record store to buy music after saving my pennies before I landed an actual job , yes that's how important Music used to be for the youth . Nowadays music is just another thing to click on a phone as the quality shows .
@@manchesterexplorer8519 as long as music touches one’s mind, soul it doesn’t matter if you walked in 12 feet of snow or you opened up an App….it’s music bird brain
Wow, now THIS is that classic Pumpkins tone and pace…the soft atmospheric interludes suddenly interrupted by galactic riffs then quiet again……mannnnn I’d have loved to see this concert and wish I could see this one in it’s entirety
Jimmy C I heard that he composed all the music and arranged it all. And I heard he even would record it all himself piece by piece and everyone would do a shitty job playing on stage lol
Sidin' With Biden disagree on the rest not playing well. Jimmy and billy speak for themselves, amazing. But James is an amazing guitar player as well. Darcy isn’t super special on bass but she at least can hold down the roots of the songs.
I personally regard Siamese Dream as my favorite album of all time, and the Pumpkins are by no means my favorite band. Siamese Dream is just something else, I can't begin to describe it. I have had a hard time enjoying the totality of any other Pumpkins album. Should I just throw on Mellon Collie again, or do you have some tracks that stick out to you to get me started? At this point I have a Pumpkins playlist and the songs off Mellon Collie include: Jellybelly, Porcelina, Here is no why, Zero, 1979, and Muzzle.
Dane Falline thru the eyes of ruby is one of my favorites, and the self titled track. Bodies, where boys fear to tread, tonight, tonight. Also Gish is such an amazing record too
I worked with this iteration of the band on a live recording at Sunrise Musical Theater in South Florida. I was really impressed by the band’s preparation and playing. James was a great counter to billy’s guitar playing. Wonderful band all the way around. Playing with such dynamics is a bit uncommon, challenging, and great to hear. Billy is a great writer and a visionary. I have very fond memories of the players and the music.
This stopped me from killing myself at aged 17, 25, 30, and 40...it s that feedback sustained note when he holds the guitar in the air...just hits me like a lightning bolt of life
I doubt it. The music is melancholic, so rather than saving you, the attraction to this music was simply symptomatic of your issues, which may have been severe, but not severe enough to kill yourself. Same for people who write such comments under Joy Division videos. You'll never find such comments in relation to genuinely uplifting and energizing music (funk, metal, prog, pop etc.).
Morus Alba Man, you are a huge asshole. You don’t get to tell people what is or isn’t uplifting to them. Have you heard of this thing called solidarity?
That solo at 7:01 kills me everytime. Just sublime. Funny thing is, he seemed to change it a little in every performance I've seen and heard. He adds a little, shortens some parts, elongates others. Each one is singular & unique in its existence!
This album will forever remind me of listening to the tape cassette of this album, in my bedroom as a teen, laying still and hanging onto every single sound. At the time it felt like an incredibly special record, one that comes along once in a lifetime. While Siamese Dream may be my favorite record by SP, Mellon Collie may be their best. The atmosphere created from start to finish is genius. Billy was an unbelievable songwriter, and everything, for me, comes back to the Pumpkins. Their tracks were so varied from album to album, from b-side to rarity, but they all worked, because they were all full of passion and dedication. Billy had that...and though he came across as a bit of a jackass at times, he was just being honest. The way he conducted his interview, the way he created his music, the way he lived...it was all with passion, dedication and a true sincerity that I respect. I am 36 and still consider the Pumpkins my favorite band...hell, I even have my 2 and 4 year olds listening, AND loving it! I raise my pint to The Smashing Pumpkins! RUclips train, take me for a ride!
Cwn Annwn & Moddey Dhoo this song (the whole album really) takes me back to 19, traveling, just being alive, etc. May sound corny, but just takes me back
Agree totally. One year older than you with a kid and another on the way. Dude...try to see them on this tour. I did and it was a life moment I'll cherish forever. Just go.
43. Listened to this in college. Laying in my bedroom with my orange Christmas lights on the ceiling, a little smoke and Incense burning. Taking me to a different world. Its indescribable unless you were there.
@@Jamus1975 43 this year. I would lay on my bed with Melancholy playing, and I would just get lost in the magic of that music. I didn't have to be doing anything else. No flipping through the feeds on my phone just to keep the conscious part of my brain occupied. No, the music would hold my whole attention. Maybe I'd flip through the sleeve and focus on the art, or the lyrics, or the band photo. But that was it. Other than that, I'd get swept away. So yeah, I think I know what you mean ! 🙂
Pulled this song up while driving back down the Mauna Loa access road after stargazing. Seriously, 20+ years later and this song still wells up amazing feelings in my soul. 💖
had it been a single, expect it to have been a very short or an abridge version of his masterpiece. the best parts would have been left out or cut down entirely in order to meet the requirements of being a commercial single. taking a 10 minute opus and crushing it down to 4 minutes is impossible.
Not enough credit goes to Darcy for her bass playing. Sure Jimmy's the greatest drummer of all time... but to keep up with him on bass!.. and this track shows how musical and foundational she could be. owns the song. Go Darcy.
I second that, I've seen them in concert, in a small venue, The Orange Peel, and D'Arcy brings a steady presence to the stage, and in the music. All of the band members are tight, and have earned their reputation through hard work and dedication. This band will surprise you, and make you a part of the experience every time. We need not say more.
i am on the medicine school, but at this right moment of my life i just wanna drop out the class and live only for music and poetry, and offcourse, shave my head
For the past few days, I have done nothihg but listen to the pumpkins till my ears bleed, and play guitar till my hands hurt. I want to create songs and performances on this level, somehow. I know many good musicians, but I need the best.
In interviews, Billy Corgan has admitted when he first decided to learn guitar, he would set an alarm and practice 4 hours everyday for 4 years. I would encourage you to look at some of the Pumpkins early footage from 88' and 89'. It really spotlights the progression of the band and Billy's music style.
there are guitar players, and then there are people like stevie ray vaughan, hendrix, van halen, and corgan. that's not to say they're the "best" or the model for what you should be, but only to say that some people have this insane drive and dedication, that to approach it, takes a sort of single-mindedness and dogged determination that is rare.
What the hell is Corgan doing in the same sentence as Hendrix or anyone of the others for that matter ? Corgan is lucky he can play his derivative stuff, even Iha makes him sound like me playing the electric trombone
He's a prick and probably more responsible for the original band splitting than anyone. How he had the cheek to say James Iha was not a musician is delusional. All my favourite tracks are almost always live versions and, apart from this, Jimmy Chamberlain's on none of them while James Iha is on all of them. Top drummer but not missed for me live while the 2 guitars of Corgan and Iha live ARE the definitive sound of the band for me.
@@paulburns1333 he was most certainly missed live by the band. Drummers as great as Jimmy Chamberlin are not easy to come by. I hear you, maybe he is a prick in real life, but musicians are an odd bunch anyway.
I estimate the crowd is close to my age at that time they could had been in there early 20s which would make them late 40s by now..GEN X RULES !!!!!!!!! WHAT A TIME FOR MUSIC AND TO BE THERE
I love this album! EVERY song is it's own entity...takes me back...they say that music is the soundtrack of our lives...I was a 20something back in the 90's..great memories..and now that I'm a dad my kids are everything to me..but having heard the music of today it's safe to say that the soundtrack of my life today is on MUTE.
This album I believe was the actual cries of the master for his beloved... The other half of him... who haunts the depths of his soul... and yet, still finds it within himself to shrug the yearnings... then all of a sudden takes it to an orgasmic flow of just what the heart feels... You find yourself lured in... hypnotized... making the listener question, "Is he calling out to me? "
Saw them in ninety five. Got backstage so he could sign a t. I saw Darcy jump a nine foot privacy fence like a frightened racehorse and billy called me a "nice Chicago boy" . Strange days ....
Absolutely epic. Gawd I love hearing the bass hitting hard and the drum arrangement. I have to believe there has to be a little Bowie and a little Rush influence in the composition. Another level of rock greatness. The Smashing Pumpkins 🤘.
I agree @billyquaile7646, Billy and James' guitar work incredibly well together, and complement, and D'Arcy and Jimmy keep the beat incredibly steady and lay down the framework on drums and bass. This is a tight band, who still can play loose, and make their older songs sound fresh and new. The energy and fun level at a live concert, small or large, close to stage, is palpable.
Lyrics As far as you take me That's where I believe The realm of soft delusions Floating on the leaves On a distant shoreline She waves her arms to me As all the thought police Are closing in for sleep The dilly dally Of my bright lit stay The steam of my misfortunes Has given me the power to be afraid And in my mind I'm everyone And in my mind Without a care in this whole world Without a care in this whole world Without a care in this life It's what you take that makes it right I'm beautiful, you're beautiful As beautiful as the sun Wonderful, you're wonderful As wonderful as they come And I can't help but feel attached To the feelings I can't even match With my face pressed up to the glass, wanting you In the slipstream Of thoughtless thoughts The light of all that's good The light of all that's true To the fringes gladly I walk unadorned With gods and their creations With filth and disease Porcelina She waits for me there With seashell hissing lullabyes And whispers fathomed deep inside my own Hidden thoughts and alibis My secret thoughts come alive Without a care in this whole world Without a care in this life Without a care in this life It's what you take that makes it right And in my mind I'm everyone In my mind I'm everyone In my mind I'm everyone of you You make it right It's all alright You make it right Porcelina of the oceans blue Porcelina of the oceans blue PLEASE LİKE !!
He almost said "Oceania" was the second coming before it came out. I mean, he really hyped it. It doesn't mean much.I even prefer "Monuments to an Elegy" over "Oceania"...
Smashing pumpkins are in a genre of their own. Never heard a band that can manipulate my emotions with their sound and lyrics like them. Plus they're nostalgic to me because I was in highschool when this came out.
"Gossamer" gets constant praise. One song I never see get praise EVER is "Atom Bomb". Ya know, the song that finishes off Machina II. I don't know, I may be pretty invested into the catalogue, but Porcelina may not be as popular as "1979", but it ISN'T under-rated like most of the songs from the _Gish_ era, or the 1998-2000 songs, with few exceptions.
I hope Billy gets around to releasing the Machina deluxe editions (both albums combined). I loved Machina, and feel a remaster of II would do it wonders. I think he was having issues with dealing with the record companies?
Ha --- billy is the softest hardcore metal artist of all time --- i think being brave enough to express a tender heart gives him a big edge over the guitar wanker bigger faster louder more notes per second competition ...
I was a huge Pumpkins fan after hearing the song Drown, that got a lot airplay on alt stations. The first time I listened to Siamese Dream, I was blown away and bought every thing SP I could find. When I heard the next album was double, I thought they were jumping the shark. It was brilliant and timeless.
I saw them a few days ago in Tampa (7-25-18) Yeah, DARCY wasn't there, but I didn't care one bit once they started. If you're even tossing around the idea in your head if you should go or not -- just do it. They are on FIRE and TIGHT. Word of mouth everyone. I found out about this tour one WEEK before they played. Spread the word.
God almighty, this is mindblowing for live. I mean, ok, yeah SP always saved something special for live. Even though the albums were PERFECT, there was always a bit of a different feel for live, something they (esp Billy) held back for an audience. This though... damn. This is a performance of a lifetime from all of them.
Wish I could have seen and experienced them in their prime! Pumpkins music just hits me different.. straight to the soul! I once sat at a campfire and downed a bottle of Jack, with this album on repeat! And this song.. man.. I got lost in a purity I haven't felt since childhood! Now thats the power of music! Wish I could share to the band what their music has meant to me through the years!
Those final distorted notes where Billy and James are harmonizing feedback and Billy starts pulling the strings off the guitar and making sounds like a groaning whale... those are the kind of guitar heroics you just don’t get these days
David Prince Mellon Collie was recorded more as a group. Corgan played the guitar and bass parts on Gish and Siamese Dream because he could record them faster than James & D’arcy and in the studio time is money.
I would also speculate that if BC had the songs written and complete, it's sometime more efficient to lay down the tracks as you hear them in your head. Having to show others sort of psychedelic feedback and similar may have been time consuming.
@@thetheRedundant WRONG! He was such a perfectionist and a control freak that he insisted on playing almost all the instruments on Gish. As for Siamese Dreams, James and D'arcy did record and Billy went into the studio and redid ALL of their playing. Billy Corgan re-recorded guitar and bass tracks originally done by Wretzky and Iha. Corgan, having never shied away from criticizing his bandmates, told Spin Magazine in 1993 that "I gave them a year and a half to prepare for this record ... yet they continue to keep failing me."
Billy would argue that he’s a better guitarist than James and a better bassist than D’Arcy so it was justified. While it’s true he’s a superior instrumentalist to either of them, it didn’t give him a right to do something like that to his friends and bandmates. And as live shows indicate both of them were quite capable of playing the material.
This playlist is incredible. We were born from another mother. Just add the Bleachers song Chinatown with Springsteen and game over. And maybe a Rolling Stones B-side.
Used to fall asleep to this album when I was in Middle school. It would take me another world as I drifted to sleep .sometimes I would put this song on repeat because its soo soothing. This album and white pony from deftones bring back so many feelings of being young and still having hope. Life is lam. AF now and today's music just doesnt have the same power it did back then
Life isn't lame, you have the choice to live an interesting life, but what comes with that is frustration, sadness, and potential heartbreak. Most people rather live a safe and quiet life and it's very normal to do so, but life is what you make it to be.
I remember skipping school and being at the door of the cd store waiting for them to open the day Mellon Collie came out....and then sitting in the parking lot listening to it for the first time in complete awe....words can't describe it....❤❤
What a great memory.
Alice baker I wonder what its like to buy a cd and actually enjoy it..cant really find that today when I buy music ahaha...
This gave me chills reading this! I miss browsing the CD stores and my absolute favorite was blockbuster music, where you could actually listen to the albums on headphones before buying them!
If i had to choose one album for eternity... Mellon Collie would be it.
I remember buying Melon colie cd with Soundgraden Superunkown album same day! Both albums are masterpieces!
People who saw them at this stage of the Mellon Collie tour witnessed some once in a generation, moons-aligning shiznit
+danny355 yes we did
+danny355 likewise anyone who see's a current incarnation of "smashing pumpkins" is DUPED/hosed 2 say the least....#blasphemy!!!
Melloncollie tour. IL . I think Bloomington. A near perfect performance that had the place stunned. Changed me forever. I have the ticket and cherish it as the greatest show I have ever seen. No bullshit.
+danny355 it sure was incredible.. being a teen in the 90's was a blessing. I got to see some of the most amazing performances anyone could ever ask for. Though I must say, the "pumpkins" now are not what they were - Billy still puts on a wonderful show - his current musicians are a talented group - one is grateful to see Jimmy again as no one could ever duplicate his style during his absences - alas, it will never be this again (as 1996).
+danny355 I sat on the front row in Charlotte NC, saw them in Columbia SC, Atlanta GA, and Chapel Hill NC, this tour and this song in particular......ive seen hundreds of shows and bands, I dont know that I will ever see anything like what I did. That Charlotte Show from Feb of 1997 was insane. Ive never seen a band so on fire yet so artistic play with the amount of passion and confidence this one did. It was like watching something from outerspace. We got a near 40 minute version of Silverfuck also that night and random jams. Rhino was even early in the set. in Columbia SC Billy was sick vomited in between songs and kept going. Mind blown
Mellon Collie...maybe the best double album of all time...
Maybe?
Mellon Collie would’ve been a 5-star single LP. Personally I think it suffered from a lack of more editing.
Tonight Tonight
Muzzle
Zero
Bullet with Butterfly Wings
Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
33
1979
Thru the Eyes of Ruby
Here is No Why
To Forgive
Bodies
XYU
By Starlight
One album, 13 songs, not a single bit of filler.
Oddly enough, I believe Siamese Dream could’ve EASILY been a double album and possibly been better. LP2:
Frail and Bedazzled
Drown
She Says
Set the Ray to Jerry
Pissant
Hello Kitty Kat
Blew Away
Starla
Glynis
Moleasskiss
Blue
Plume
STP
Tulips
Whir
Spaced
Purr Snickety
Soothe
Apathy’s Last Kiss
Siamese Dream
That’s 20 songs they had at the time that were all pretty good.
Cut down to 13 more songs, still a perfect record.
@@Tyrannosaurine ok kiddo
@@Tyrannosaurine you're right. If you put the songs from Pices Iscariot with Siamease Dream you would have I think the best double album of all time. I know it's all subjective and I give credit to MCIS as being a game changer in the 90s. But there is something that those first couple albums do to me that MCIS just cant compare to. IMHO of course.✌
people who say D'arcy couldnt play dont know what the fuck theyre talking about.....she may not have contributed creatively to the writting of the albums, mostly because Billy was the creative driving force behind the band and that's totally fine but anyone who can stand there on stage and play an entire Pumpkins set start to finish complete wth all the technical nuances of their sets during that time is obviously an excellent bassist and deserves some credit as a musician. Plus, she was visibly creative and added an aesthetic to the band that was obviously needed. And she was sexy as fuck and that didnt hurt things.
AMEN!!
she's better than nikki sixx
Agreed. When you watch a full show from the Siamese or Mellon Collie tours you see D'arcy doing all kinds of stuff, palming her pick and switching to fingerstyle for mellower parts, adjusting her volume and tone knobs on the fly, etc... she was definitely a real bassist. She also played a lot on MCIS, Adore and Machina. Unfortunately Billy himself fueled a lot of that fire, he said James could barely play too... it was only really Gish and Siamese Dream where most of it is Billy and Jimmy Chamberlain (and even then you had D'arcy singing and James coming up with what would become Soma and Mayonnaise on his acoustic). It was probably Vieuphoria that solidified my love of the Pumpkins more than anything when I was a kid back in the day. These 4 were a kick-ass band.
Thank you! Any bassist who can play with the geniuses Billy, and Jimmy has to be pretty good. I think a lot of the reason Billy had to play the bass parts on the early albums was she didn't have time to learn all the bass parts to all the songs before they went to the studio. Billy was cranking out songs at an insane rate back in the early 90s, and Billy already knew how he wanted them to be. Porcelina has one of my favorite bass lines of any song.
FUCKING FINALLY! D'arcy was great. People don't give her the credit she deserves. It's so good to see comments like this.
I bought the Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness cd the day it came out, after buying the cd I ran home to listen to it and when I heard it for the first time it blew my mind, my dad always since I turned 10 years at the end of each month he gave me 50 dollars to buy the rock cds I wanted, obviously for him to give me that money I had to work in the house trimming the lawn, washing the dishes, tidying the basement and the attic and other tasks , I did it with all the pleasure in the world because I knew that at the end of the month I could buy the music I wanted, my dad is a good man and he has been my angel all my life.
I used to ride a bike 8 miles to a record store to buy music after saving my pennies before I landed an actual job , yes that's how important Music used to be for the youth . Nowadays music is just another thing to click on a phone as the quality shows .
@@manchesterexplorer8519 as long as music touches one’s mind, soul it doesn’t matter if you walked in 12 feet of snow or you opened up an App….it’s music bird brain
You earned it ❤
I saw them live January 1997 and they turned this song into an incredible 30 minute performance. That was one of the best concerts I’ve ever attended
The Pumpkins worked with distortion the way other artists work in oils or clay.
Moe TheDestroyer Beautifully said...
My father worked in profanity the way other artists might work in oils or clay. It was his true medium, a master.
For distortion Sonic Youth...
Craig Sullivan sorry man.
@RichleicaMP Nah, not learn. Maybe some inspiration from others. Billy and the SP were pioneers. They created a new sounds that didn't exist before.
That guitar tone is the best to ever walk out of the 1990's.
Yeah and the guitar tone in the 90's was the best to walk out of rock music, so that's saying a helluva lot
Yeahhhhhh!!!
Wow, now THIS is that classic Pumpkins tone and pace…the soft atmospheric interludes suddenly interrupted by galactic riffs then quiet again……mannnnn I’d have loved to see this concert and wish I could see this one in it’s entirety
You can full concert is on RUclips somewhere I’ve watched it
Pumpkins live @ Brixton buddy
with billy flailing on the vocals as always
@@alsavantjes Yeah, but for some reason it still works in my opinion. More so than some perfect pitch wailing that is just ”over the top”.
Hands down, the best songwriter of the 90's.
Jimmy C I heard that he composed all the music and arranged it all. And I heard he even would record it all himself piece by piece and everyone would do a shitty job playing on stage lol
No Doubt.
@@onefreebird1 except Jimmy Chamberlin who is the engine of the pumpkins
Sidin' With Biden disagree on the rest not playing well. Jimmy and billy speak for themselves, amazing. But James is an amazing guitar player as well. Darcy isn’t super special on bass but she at least can hold down the roots of the songs.
Yes.
Mellon Collie is such a huge record (in every way) that it sometimes takes 18 years to discover all the killer tracks on it.... :)
Honestly, one of the most iconic doubles out there.
This was my favorite the day it came out
I personally regard Siamese Dream as my favorite album of all time, and the Pumpkins are by no means my favorite band. Siamese Dream is just something else, I can't begin to describe it. I have had a hard time enjoying the totality of any other Pumpkins album. Should I just throw on Mellon Collie again, or do you have some tracks that stick out to you to get me started? At this point I have a Pumpkins playlist and the songs off Mellon Collie include: Jellybelly, Porcelina, Here is no why, Zero, 1979, and Muzzle.
Dane Falline thru the eyes of ruby is one of my favorites, and the self titled track. Bodies, where boys fear to tread, tonight, tonight. Also Gish is such an amazing record too
Dane Falline Those are among my faves. I'd add Tonight Tonight, In the Arms of Sleep and Thirty-three.
D'arcy Wretzky was always the most beautiful thing I saw in my life from the 90s!!
I worked with this iteration of the band on a live recording at Sunrise Musical Theater in South Florida. I was really impressed by the band’s preparation and playing. James was a great counter to billy’s guitar playing. Wonderful band all the way around. Playing with such dynamics is a bit uncommon, challenging, and great to hear. Billy is a great writer and a visionary. I have very fond memories of the players and the music.
Is jimmy chamberlain the most underrated rock drummer of all time???
Maybe to you, he is. To most listeners, not so much
@@Oh_I_Will Those listeners must be listening very well then
He is without a doubt one of my favorite drummers. Along with Bill Ward and Joey Jordison.
@@jamesmarshall7885 the term “under-rated” means nothing to me. Why does the OP think Jimmy is classified as such, makes no sense whatsoever
No
This stopped me from killing myself at aged 17, 25, 30, and 40...it s that feedback sustained note when he holds the guitar in the air...just hits me like a lightning bolt of life
Keep ya head up dawg ✌️✌️✌️✌️✌️
Love you dude. I'm with you.
i feel you...music like this saves me
I doubt it. The music is melancholic, so rather than saving you, the attraction to this music was simply symptomatic of your issues, which may have been severe, but not severe enough to kill yourself. Same for people who write such comments under Joy Division videos.
You'll never find such comments in relation to genuinely uplifting and energizing music (funk, metal, prog, pop etc.).
Morus Alba Man, you are a huge asshole. You don’t get to tell people what is or isn’t uplifting to them. Have you heard of this thing called solidarity?
Miss my youth of the 90s. 43 now.
Amen brother.
52 now. So happy I was in my 20’s in the 90’s. Best music decade.
Me too😢
That solo at 7:01 kills me everytime. Just sublime.
Funny thing is, he seemed to change it a little in every performance I've seen and heard.
He adds a little, shortens some parts, elongates others. Each one is singular & unique in its existence!
I like how it starts out that way then after a few bars they invert it then do the feedback-hold, was why my favorite song was Drown
old comment but his live solos in the 90s were fucking unmatched. literally any i am one performance will show that he can absolutely shred.
This album will forever remind me of listening to the tape cassette of this album, in my bedroom as a teen, laying still and hanging onto every single sound. At the time it felt like an incredibly special record, one that comes along once in a lifetime. While Siamese Dream may be my favorite record by SP, Mellon Collie may be their best. The atmosphere created from start to finish is genius. Billy was an unbelievable songwriter, and everything, for me, comes back to the Pumpkins. Their tracks were so varied from album to album, from b-side to rarity, but they all worked, because they were all full of passion and dedication. Billy had that...and though he came across as a bit of a jackass at times, he was just being honest. The way he conducted his interview, the way he created his music, the way he lived...it was all with passion, dedication and a true sincerity that I respect. I am 36 and still consider the Pumpkins my favorite band...hell, I even have my 2 and 4 year olds listening, AND loving it! I raise my pint to The Smashing Pumpkins! RUclips train, take me for a ride!
Cwn Annwn & Moddey Dhoo this song (the whole album really) takes me back to 19, traveling, just being alive, etc. May sound corny, but just takes me back
Agree totally. One year older than you with a kid and another on the way. Dude...try to see them on this tour. I did and it was a life moment I'll cherish forever. Just go.
43. Listened to this in college. Laying in my bedroom with my orange Christmas lights on the ceiling, a little smoke and Incense burning. Taking me to a different world. Its indescribable unless you were there.
@@Jamus1975 43 this year. I would lay on my bed with Melancholy playing, and I would just get lost in the magic of that music. I didn't have to be doing anything else. No flipping through the feeds on my phone just to keep the conscious part of my brain occupied. No, the music would hold my whole attention. Maybe I'd flip through the sleeve and focus on the art, or the lyrics, or the band photo. But that was it. Other than that, I'd get swept away.
So yeah, I think I know what you mean ! 🙂
Happy 40th!! Late or early. Couldn’t agree more!!
This is progressive rock...right up there with Pink Floyd of 20 years before (Echoes)
I agree with that statement to the fullest.
This album alone is greater than anything Pink Floyd has done ever. Not even close.
this makes me wish i could go back in time.
Me 2. Mayb I'll c u there
Pulled this song up while driving back down the Mauna Loa access road after stargazing. Seriously, 20+ years later and this song still wells up amazing feelings in my soul. 💖
Wow, if EVER there were the perfect use for this song, this would be it. Gotta give it a try.
Pele lives on!
Beautiful
I really like hearing D’arcy’s bass stand out on this live.
One of the best SP songs. Should have had a single from the album.
One of the bands that made the 90's great.
had it been a single, expect it to have been a very short or an abridge version of his masterpiece. the best parts would have been left out or cut down entirely in order to meet the requirements of being a commercial single. taking a 10 minute opus and crushing it down to 4 minutes is impossible.
This version of "Porcelina of Vast Oceans" is what atmospheric rock feels like.
D'arcy nails the bass on this. I wish she was coming back for the reunion tour.
Greatest band to ever walk this earth...
100% Yes!
I like SP...but best ever...maybe my Top 10
@@Oh_I_Will to each their own.
Except they have Adore and Cyr.
God... 20 plus years later this song still resonates with me. This is quintessential Pumpkins. Powerful.
Did they invent psychedelic grunge?
Not enough credit goes to Darcy for her bass playing. Sure Jimmy's the greatest drummer of all time... but to keep up with him on bass!.. and this track shows how musical and foundational she could be. owns the song. Go Darcy.
Totally agree, well said.
I second that, I've seen them in concert, in a small venue, The Orange Peel, and D'Arcy brings a steady presence to the stage, and in the music. All of the band members are tight, and have earned their reputation through hard work and dedication. This band will surprise you, and make you a part of the experience every time. We need not say more.
Darcy is so pretty.
the song is so pretty..!
Not anymore. Drugs fucked her up
Her hair looks great in this one!
I want Darcy. So sexy up there
D'arcy was so hot 👁👅👁
i am on the medicine school, but at this right moment of my life i just wanna drop out the class and live only for music and poetry, and offcourse, shave my head
Maybe you can do both, you’ve probably been far in, graduated, or dropped out by now
I did both. Now I'm a Gineco and a bass player. You can do both bro. I'm 3 years late but you can do it.
25 now - damn!
For the past few days, I have done nothihg but listen to the pumpkins till my ears bleed, and play guitar till my hands hurt. I want to create songs and performances on this level, somehow. I know many good musicians, but I need the best.
You just can't be the best, you become the best
In interviews, Billy Corgan has admitted when he first decided to learn guitar, he would set an alarm and practice 4 hours everyday for 4 years. I would encourage you to look at some of the Pumpkins early footage from 88' and 89'. It really spotlights the progression of the band and Billy's music style.
there are guitar players, and then there are people like stevie ray vaughan, hendrix, van halen, and corgan. that's not to say they're the "best" or the model for what you should be, but only to say that some people have this insane drive and dedication, that to approach it, takes a sort of single-mindedness and dogged determination that is rare.
What the hell is Corgan doing in the same sentence as Hendrix or anyone of the others for that matter ? Corgan is lucky he can play his derivative stuff, even Iha makes him sound like me playing the electric trombone
yeah if you stop obsessed with a teenage japanese girls and asian cartoons,it could might help
Chamberlin is so RAD
He's a prick and probably more responsible for the original band splitting than anyone. How he had the cheek to say James Iha was not a musician is delusional.
All my favourite tracks are almost always live versions and, apart from this, Jimmy Chamberlain's on none of them while James Iha is on all of them.
Top drummer but not missed for me live while the 2 guitars of Corgan and Iha live ARE the definitive sound of the band for me.
@@paulburns1333 I respect that but saying Chamberlin was not a definitive aspect of the pumpkins is crazy
@@paulburns1333 he was most certainly missed live by the band. Drummers as great as Jimmy Chamberlin are not easy to come by. I hear you, maybe he is a prick in real life, but musicians are an odd bunch anyway.
Paul Burns ......you’re a fucking idiot.
Paul Burns lol,Chamberlin is a massive part of the Pumpkin’s sound.
I like more This performance than the studio verison
Jimmy Chamberlin didn't develop muscles from him drumming. His muscles developed drums from him Jimmy Chamberlining.
Funniest, cleverest comment I have read in A LONG time!
😂
Pink Floyd + Black Sabbath = the smashing pumpkins
Finally! Yessss! It reminds so much of Comfortably Numb by Pink Floyd
No one else was doing this in the 90’s. Radiohead came close with OK Computer, but still...no one did this, and no one COULD do it.
The guitar work on this track blows me away every time!
Amen.
ditto
I estimate the crowd is close to my age at that time they could had been in there early 20s which would make them late 40s by now..GEN X RULES !!!!!!!!! WHAT A TIME FOR MUSIC AND TO BE THERE
yup !
My favorite from Mellon Collie.
Always takes me to another fuckin galaxy.
Perfect lineup, perfect band.
Turn 50 years old today...and this song is still my teenage clip. Pumkins rule
I love this album! EVERY song is it's own entity...takes me back...they say that music is the soundtrack of our lives...I was a 20something back in the 90's..great memories..and now that I'm a dad my kids are everything to me..but having heard the music of today it's safe to say that the soundtrack of my life today is on MUTE.
This album I believe was the actual cries of the master for his beloved...
The other half of him...
who haunts the depths of his soul...
and yet, still finds it within himself to shrug the yearnings... then all of a sudden takes it to an orgasmic flow of just what the heart feels...
You find yourself lured in...
hypnotized...
making the listener question,
"Is he calling out to me? "
Just Me I hope that you’re raising your kids to have better taste in music?
Exactly, I could of said this word for word
Saw them in ninety five. Got backstage so he could sign a t. I saw Darcy jump a nine foot privacy fence like a frightened racehorse and billy called me a "nice Chicago boy" . Strange days ....
Absolutely epic. Gawd I love hearing the bass hitting hard and the drum arrangement. I have to believe there has to be a little Bowie and a little Rush influence in the composition. Another level of rock greatness. The Smashing Pumpkins 🤘.
Darcy is the goddess of bass🥰😍
Wish I were there...
This is my favorite live Smashing Pumpkins performance that I have ever seen. Love!
He's a very underrated guitar player to say the least
A statement of pure clichéd nonsense.
Said no one ever
I agree @billyquaile7646, Billy and James' guitar work incredibly well together, and complement, and D'Arcy and Jimmy keep the beat incredibly steady and lay down the framework on drums and bass. This is a tight band, who still can play loose, and make their older songs sound fresh and new. The energy and fun level at a live concert, small or large, close to stage, is palpable.
Still listen to this in 2018
Still listen to this in 2019
I'm listening today and probably tomorrow
Simply perfect! Can't think of a bad song from this group...
yes, indeed, only Led Zeppelin comes to mind of bands that can probably claim that accomplishment.
@@Uncle_Neil indeed!!! 🤙🏼
And then they follow this up with Adore. One of the worst decisions a band could make, and they still haven't really recovered.
Dude adore was just as good
Bring back Darcy !! Sexiest bass player ever ever ever !! 😘💋💜✌
She's been through a lot, looks much different these days, and apparently was not agreeable to Billy's terms to come back.
I love this song and I love D’Arcy
She is the coolest Bass-Girl ever and will ever be.
Billy is completely playing for himself...& I'm ok with that.
Lyrics
As far as you take me
That's where I believe
The realm of soft delusions
Floating on the leaves
On a distant shoreline
She waves her arms to me
As all the thought police
Are closing in for sleep
The dilly dally
Of my bright lit stay
The steam of my misfortunes
Has given me the power to be afraid
And in my mind I'm everyone
And in my mind
Without a care in this whole world
Without a care in this whole world
Without a care in this life
It's what you take that makes it right
I'm beautiful, you're beautiful
As beautiful as the sun
Wonderful, you're wonderful
As wonderful as they come
And I can't help but feel attached
To the feelings I can't even match
With my face pressed up to the glass, wanting you
In the slipstream
Of thoughtless thoughts
The light of all that's good
The light of all that's true
To the fringes gladly
I walk unadorned
With gods and their creations
With filth and disease
Porcelina
She waits for me there
With seashell hissing lullabyes
And whispers fathomed deep inside my own
Hidden thoughts and alibis
My secret thoughts come alive
Without a care in this whole world
Without a care in this life
Without a care in this life
It's what you take that makes it right
And in my mind I'm everyone
In my mind I'm everyone
In my mind I'm everyone of you
You make it right
It's all alright
You make it right
Porcelina of the oceans blue
Porcelina of the oceans blue
PLEASE LİKE !!
Why did you insert part of the lyrics from "Beautiful" into the middle of Porcelina?
@@alien7161 dudes an idiot
Love the last part of the song, where you can really hear the bass lines of D'arcy.
This song takes you on a roller coaster. It's like a sweet story and so soothing
So much Pink Floyd in this brilliant song
Compared to what?
agree ~ reminds me some Pink Floyd.. don't know what song exactly ..maybe from various guitar effects
Best version of this song ever
despite the vocals!
absolutely adore d'arcy in this. wow :) x
damm i miss this lineup and especially this D'arcy
these are the real pumpkins, not that travesty of band that exists today ..
they are coming out with a new album. Billy said it will be a mix of sounds like Siamese Dream and Gish
Really that sounds badass
He almost said "Oceania" was the second coming before it came out. I mean, he really hyped it. It doesn't mean much.I even prefer "Monuments to an Elegy" over "Oceania"...
Oceania kind of sucked unless you live near a weed store.
Oceania was fucking awesome, best album they've put out since adore. monuments not so much
Mellon Collie... the most amazing album of the nineties
Smashing pumpkins are in a genre of their own. Never heard a band that can manipulate my emotions with their sound and lyrics like them. Plus they're nostalgic to me because I was in highschool when this came out.
in my mind I'm everyone
This song took me to 8 different planets
Yup.. easily one of the most under-rated pumpkins songs... Gossamer is number one on that list though.
A collection of songs might be a better description. With some solos thrown in.
"Gossamer" gets constant praise. One song I never see get praise EVER is "Atom Bomb". Ya know, the song that finishes off Machina II. I don't know, I may be pretty invested into the catalogue, but Porcelina may not be as popular as "1979", but it ISN'T under-rated like most of the songs from the _Gish_ era, or the 1998-2000 songs, with few exceptions.
I hope Billy gets around to releasing the Machina deluxe editions (both albums combined). I loved Machina, and feel a remaster of II would do it wonders. I think he was having issues with dealing with the record companies?
sorry, LOVE this song and this band Jimmy was maybe ny fav drummer and billy has a lot of Hendrix in him, Darcy and James are just awesome
In the slipstream the LIGHT OF ALL THAT'S GOOD,
THE LIGHT OF ALL THAT'S TRUE...
This song takes me places 🖤😍💫
Where?
This song is pure gold, from a great album
Billy's voice here sounds amazing. So carelessly hardcore.
Ha --- billy is the softest hardcore metal artist of all time --- i think being brave enough to express a tender heart gives him a big edge over the guitar wanker bigger faster louder more notes per second competition ...
What stadium in the world could the pumpkins not fill with an original line-up "hits" tour?!?!?
Christopher Johnson Billy can't pull it off with the right energy anymore, it was a once in a lifetime type of thing
I was a huge Pumpkins fan after hearing the song Drown, that got a lot airplay on alt stations. The first time I listened to Siamese Dream, I was blown away and bought every thing SP I could find. When I heard the next album was double, I thought they were jumping the shark. It was brilliant and timeless.
Apparently many of them - tickets are not selling.
They're just missing D'arcy. :( I wish she and Billy would sort out their differences.
I saw them a few days ago in Tampa (7-25-18) Yeah, DARCY wasn't there, but I didn't care one bit once they started. If you're even tossing around the idea in your head if you should go or not -- just do it. They are on FIRE and TIGHT. Word of mouth everyone. I found out about this tour one WEEK before they played. Spread the word.
What a masterpiece
Zboy status Billy, James, D'arcy, Jimmy Chamberlinthe smashing pumpkins
Memorables años 90s épocas mágicas, música mítica y de culto.
God almighty, this is mindblowing for live. I mean, ok, yeah SP always saved something special for live. Even though the albums were PERFECT, there was always a bit of a different feel for live, something they (esp Billy) held back for an audience. This though... damn. This is a performance of a lifetime from all of them.
Wish I could have seen and experienced them in their prime! Pumpkins music just hits me different.. straight to the soul! I once sat at a campfire and downed a bottle of Jack, with this album on repeat! And this song.. man.. I got lost in a purity I haven't felt since childhood! Now thats the power of music! Wish I could share to the band what their music has meant to me through the years!
This brought a tear to my eye! Read this right at the guitar solo! Such a fucking awesome band. So many memories…
É tão maravilhosa essa versão, que não há adjetivos para deacreve-lá
WTF, !!! 2 commercials in the fkin middle of the song. Fk todays world
James really elevates this.. dude is underrated
Darcy looks like a porceline doll on stage
What a resplendent song from their early 1990s LP, Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness...
This song, like numerous others from Mellon Collie, is epic.
Those final distorted notes where Billy and James are harmonizing feedback and Billy starts pulling the strings off the guitar and making sounds like a groaning whale... those are the kind of guitar heroics you just don’t get these days
Who would’ve guessed that someone with Corgans voice will write some of the best rock ballads of all time. Musically he’s a genius.
This is NOT a ballad
I still say billy was better guitar player than kurt
That's not even a debate. It's actually an absurd comparison. Compared to Billy, Kurt isn't a guitar player.
I hate how rolling stones always ranked kurt in top 100 even over frank fucking zappa
Purple rain(s) become a vast ocean of....
IN THE SLIPSTREAM...
👽
Why on earth did Corgan ever insist on playing all the instruments on the albums. The band is so talented and in sync with each other.
David Prince Mellon Collie was recorded more as a group. Corgan played the guitar and bass parts on Gish and Siamese Dream because he could record them faster than James & D’arcy and in the studio time is money.
I would also speculate that if BC had the songs written and complete, it's sometime more efficient to lay down the tracks as you hear them in your head. Having to show others sort of psychedelic feedback and similar may have been time consuming.
@@thetheRedundant WRONG! He was such a perfectionist and a control freak that he insisted on playing almost all the instruments on Gish. As for Siamese Dreams, James and D'arcy did record and Billy went into the studio and redid ALL of their playing. Billy Corgan re-recorded guitar and bass tracks originally done by Wretzky and Iha. Corgan, having never shied away from criticizing his bandmates, told Spin Magazine in 1993 that "I gave them a year and a half to prepare for this record ... yet they continue to keep failing me."
Imagine being in a band with BC? The other members probably wanted to strangle him after a while... Control freak
Billy would argue that he’s a better guitarist than James and a better bassist than D’Arcy so it was justified. While it’s true he’s a superior instrumentalist to either of them, it didn’t give him a right to do something like that to his friends and bandmates. And as live shows indicate both of them were quite capable of playing the material.
This playlist is incredible. We were born from another mother. Just add the Bleachers song Chinatown with Springsteen and game over. And maybe a Rolling Stones B-side.
I could envision Beavis watching this video, clenching his fists, chanting "EEEhaa! EEEhaa!"
That ad in the middle of the song is a f*cking travesty.
The advertisers should be ashamed of themselves, but I don't think they would know shame if it leapt up and bit them on the backside.
The greatest drummer still alive! High Five Jimmy!
I love Jimmy, but in my opinion Danny Carey nudges him out.
SP was what Led Zeppelin was to the generation before mine. They just rocked.
magical years in the 90s
As friends die and family dies and heros die and many die through stupidity and natural cause and war and pandemics, we truly live in end times.
Greatest band to come out of the States!
👽×9
THE REALM OF SOFT ILLUSION.
WITHOUT A CARE IN THIS OL' EARTH, THIS LIFE.
U.C.L.A.
Used to fall asleep to this album when I was in Middle school. It would take me another world as I drifted to sleep .sometimes I would put this song on repeat because its soo soothing. This album and white pony from deftones bring back so many feelings of being young and still having hope. Life is lam. AF now and today's music just doesnt have the same power it did back then
Life isn't lame, you have the choice to live an interesting life, but what comes with that is frustration, sadness, and potential heartbreak. Most people rather live a safe and quiet life and it's very normal to do so, but life is what you make it to be.
James and Billy and Jimmy just going off while D'arcy holds it down. Women stay underappreciated.