Everything to know about Starscream's Wings

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  • Опубликовано: 26 апр 2020
  • / emperor-kumquat
    We have subtitles now!
    All my observations on Starscream's wing positions, compiled into an ultimate guide on how to read his mood. While the fans love his wing emoting, why does this exist? Let's take a look at what the animators were thinking, and why Starscream moves his wings the way he does.
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  • @rowandenlinger6640
    @rowandenlinger6640 3 года назад +952

    Megatron: this is starscream, my worst seeker
    Optimus: you fragged up a perfectly good seeker is what you did, look at it, it’s got anxiety

    • @gracel6206
      @gracel6206 3 года назад +39

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @therailfanman2078
      @therailfanman2078 Год назад +86

      Starscream: **shoots Megatron**

    • @3_clips3
      @3_clips3 Год назад +20

      @@therailfanman2078 yes

    • @Starvaze
      @Starvaze Год назад +40

      Sound: Starscream inferior
      Shock: Most inferior

    • @ishashifar
      @ishashifar Год назад +32

      True really starscream was pretty competent in the novels exodus and retribution that take place before prime and even in rid15 after prime megatron was the one who really gave him that fear and anxiety 😅😣

  • @BashfulLine
    @BashfulLine 4 года назад +404

    Fun fact when shockwave realized Megatron was Unicron, his eye darkened when he said "Unicron"

  • @kotek5301
    @kotek5301 4 года назад +1295

    I'm a simple woman
    I see Starscream
    I click

  • @mrx4022
    @mrx4022 4 года назад +903

    Seekers are naturally alert and often times skittish when not in the air - their wings are like their mood moderators and act like a cat's ears would to portray whether their anxious, excited, sad, happy or angry. Basically Starscreams like a big asshole of a cat

    • @taniksholdinganarchy4081
      @taniksholdinganarchy4081 4 года назад +31

      Heheheh

    • @DeeRizz
      @DeeRizz 4 года назад +37

      Why didn’t starscream join the autobots he always nice to them

    • @themostbritishpersonalive868
      @themostbritishpersonalive868 4 года назад +39

      So a regular cat

    • @isaacmcconley4965
      @isaacmcconley4965 3 года назад +69

      @@DeeRizz he was going to but Arcee nearly killed him after he let it slipped that he killed cliff jumper, so she chased him away unintentionally

    • @Vivigreeny25
      @Vivigreeny25 3 года назад +4

      ASDFGHJKL-

  • @Jazmission
    @Jazmission 4 года назад +880

    Starscreams wing movement just give him more character

  • @anniebannanielosttheirnanny
    @anniebannanielosttheirnanny 4 года назад +896

    Starscream’s Wings = Ears
    Miko’s Buns = Ears
    Smokescreen & Bumblebee’s car doors = Ears
    Arcee’s Winglets = Ears
    All help express the character more.

    • @NobushiSnow
      @NobushiSnow 4 года назад +123

      Shockwave's antenna are ears

    • @wofless4429
      @wofless4429 4 года назад +67

      @@NobushiSnow wow he really is coldhearted 99% of time...except that one time when he was attacked by zombie predacons

    • @dorinahasimja5408
      @dorinahasimja5408 4 года назад +12

      Miko's buns aren't ears.

    • @anniebannanielosttheirnanny
      @anniebannanielosttheirnanny 4 года назад +36

      Vendinis Hasimja you get what I mean though 😂
      They droop when she’s sad and perk up when happy. At least that’s what I’ve seen.

    • @anuj4263
      @anuj4263 4 года назад +16

      Airachnids legs

  • @Joselyngattinella862
    @Joselyngattinella862 4 года назад +207

    But tbh starscream's wings are pretty cute.

  • @trinar.s.6550
    @trinar.s.6550 4 года назад +62

    I love that Starcream basically has heels

    • @_V.Va_
      @_V.Va_ 4 года назад +21

      Wheeljack described him as a 'stilleto-heeled freak'

    • @theperpetualgrouch
      @theperpetualgrouch 4 года назад +7

      @Vï •Mo• I think that’s smokescreen

    • @dorinahasimja5408
      @dorinahasimja5408 4 года назад +7

      @@theperpetualgrouch It is smokescreen

    • @dorinahasimja5408
      @dorinahasimja5408 4 года назад +5

      I love that too. I wonder how high his heels are though.

    • @theperpetualgrouch
      @theperpetualgrouch 4 года назад +6

      @Vendinis Hasimja probably higher than his chances of surviving

  • @alexandresiemsen798
    @alexandresiemsen798 4 года назад +111

    RUclips suggestions: half hour long video about Starscream wings.
    Me: WeLl wHy NoT?

  • @amiraautobotsamuraiprimusm9435
    @amiraautobotsamuraiprimusm9435 4 года назад +291

    When starscream is really happy he flap's his wings.
    I seen it before.

    • @kyndrablankenship1758
      @kyndrablankenship1758 4 года назад +4

      When?

    • @amiraautobotsamuraiprimusm9435
      @amiraautobotsamuraiprimusm9435 4 года назад +23

      @@kyndrablankenship1758 when this show was on tv I seen one of the episode's when he was flapping his wings.
      But I don't remember which episode's.🤔

    • @theenderdragongirl9152
      @theenderdragongirl9152 4 года назад +27

      I don't know the exact episode but it's when he's saying how hes the oone who got rid of cliff jumper... Right before knockout insults him, if you look at him you can notice a Wing flutter

    • @amiraautobotsamuraiprimusm9435
      @amiraautobotsamuraiprimusm9435 4 года назад +5

      @@theenderdragongirl9152 maybe not sure.

    • @kyndrablankenship1758
      @kyndrablankenship1758 4 года назад +9

      @@theenderdragongirl9152 I just checked. That was the right episode. Thanks. Although I think I like it better when his wings droop down.

  • @joaolucasnascimentoleite2831
    @joaolucasnascimentoleite2831 4 года назад +489

    i wonder how things would be if skywarp and thundercracker were in the show

    • @Jazmission
      @Jazmission 4 года назад +60

      Mabey slightly different head sculpts and there backs are staight

    • @NathanWhitford
      @NathanWhitford 4 года назад +72

      I'll tell you how it would be... freakin' EXPENSIVE!

    • @makaylasmith640
      @makaylasmith640 4 года назад +10

      João Lucas Nascimento Leite better

    • @dimdive7997
      @dimdive7997 4 года назад +41

      My heart wants that tho

    • @orivy
      @orivy 4 года назад +46

      I think Knockout and Breakdown reaplaced those two in the show.

  • @somethingpithy8547
    @somethingpithy8547 4 года назад +609

    I love the part where you dub over the scene with the predacons and explain his wings in real-time! It feels like I'm watching a nature documentary!

    • @emperorkumquat
      @emperorkumquat  4 года назад +73

      Hahahaha

    • @somethingpithy8547
      @somethingpithy8547 4 года назад +18

      A little bit off-topic, but have you ever heard the song ‘Catabolic Seed?” I think it’s really a ‘Starscream’ type of song.

    • @Rubywing4
      @Rubywing4 4 года назад +59

      "Here we see a Seeker, in its natural environment. Its name is Starscream, and it's currently facing against its natural predators: Predacons."

    • @Your_Local_Raccoon
      @Your_Local_Raccoon 2 года назад +23

      @@emperorkumquat “and here we see the wild starscream in its natural habitat, about to be beat by the larger predator, the predicon”

  • @carolart4700
    @carolart4700 4 года назад +249

    Actually Shockwave moves with his spikes too, and that's I think that's very interesting to analyze, since he usually doesn't show any emotions.

    • @frost.bytten2023
      @frost.bytten2023 4 года назад +28

      Please, for my mental state, Google cybertronian anatomy and rephrase that.

    • @carolart4700
      @carolart4700 4 года назад +3

      @@frost.bytten2023 sorry, but your mental state is definitely not my priority, because Iam lazy fuck- but whatever, tell me how would you call it? Anthenas I guess- my friend uses the words spikes for it so yeah, I picked it up and sincerely don't care at all. Who the fuck cares-

    • @Grand_Etherion
      @Grand_Etherion 4 года назад +13

      @@carolart4700 you should... You REALLY should...

    • @carolart4700
      @carolart4700 4 года назад +9

      @@Grand_Etherion ah c'mon why- iam here for the gay robots not the nerdy tons of information

    • @carolart4700
      @carolart4700 4 года назад +3

      @@Grand_Etherion lmaO- I remember ppl used different term in role-plays tho- but in canon it basically doesn't exist- and wasn't used at this meaning anywhere in it- so guess iam not guilty for not being horny fuck XD

  • @scorchflare5765
    @scorchflare5765 4 года назад +512

    At some point, when I was watching the show, I suddenly noticed the movements of kibble and other frame additions on the characters. I first saw it with Bumblebee, and from then on tried to spot similar motions with the others. I always wondered why Smokescreen wasn't as emotive with his 'wings' as Bumblebee or Starscream. Arcee sometimes moves her winglets, but I believe hers is rare because she tries to keep her true emotions in check (which is ineffective because she is VERY impulsive and just generally angry).
    I noticed it with the gold parts of Dreadwing's eyebrows, which move separately from them. And Shockwave's little antennae that twitch surprisingly often according to his mood or the events around him. It's amazing how many subtle (and non-subtle) motions are part of the characters to show their emotions and reactions. You often can't spot them your first or even second time viewing, but it makes scenes that much enjoyable to see the little movements.
    EDIT: I just saw another comment that reminded me of Miko's FUCKING PIGTAILS. They also move according to her moods.

    • @emperorkumquat
      @emperorkumquat  4 года назад +84

      I think Smokescreen's moved quite a bit. He was often disappointed and sad whenever he thought he failed others

    • @unripetheberrby6283
      @unripetheberrby6283 4 года назад +25

      Miko's an anime character! haha

    • @tseliius
      @tseliius 4 года назад +21

      Miko’s little buns are so cute!!!

    • @dorinahasimja5408
      @dorinahasimja5408 4 года назад +9

      @@tseliius exactly

    • @tseliius
      @tseliius 4 года назад +5

      Vendinis Hasimja
      We stan 😤👌🏻

  • @Greenkitten45
    @Greenkitten45 2 года назад +86

    I love how expressive Starscream's wings are throughout this series. I can't say I noticed how emotive they are in other incarnations so it makes me appreciate TFP more for going the extra mile to add in this detail for Starscream's body language.

  • @ninomitchell2039
    @ninomitchell2039 4 года назад +171

    That's why i love the aligned version of these characters. The characters have so much depth to them that they seem more real, more natural, than their movie counterparts and are probably the best version of the characters in my opinion

  • @orivy
    @orivy 4 года назад +1160

    I'm so glad there are still TFP fans in 2020! (人 •͈ᴗ•͈)

    • @autobothilt7864
      @autobothilt7864 4 года назад +87

      I mean, theres G1 fans around so I dont see why not. TFP was a masterpiece. And frankly still is. Who couldn't love this treasure

    • @joyhatake4054
      @joyhatake4054 4 года назад +36

      I am so proud of this community

    • @apolloknight9521
      @apolloknight9521 4 года назад +38

      You don’t have to worry about it, TFP is still remembered as one of the best Transformers Shows to ever to be created

    • @TvRex-zg7gg
      @TvRex-zg7gg 4 года назад +20

      @@apolloknight9521 And lets not forget about Animated too.

    • @justaguywithagoodphoto4801
      @justaguywithagoodphoto4801 4 года назад +4

      FoxyKuta • everyone is a TFP fan

  • @socrates1168
    @socrates1168 4 года назад +80

    This is what makes Starscream more interesting to be honest

  • @kahlaarabbani2907
    @kahlaarabbani2907 4 года назад +99

    I would never thought I was the only one who find starscreams wings interesting. A lot of emotions was put to this show. I love it when transformers parts in robot mode moves for maybe no reason sometimes

  • @plexigirls101
    @plexigirls101 4 года назад +65

    finally a video entirely dedicated to Starscream’s wings

  • @namiriora5228
    @namiriora5228 4 года назад +129

    Having only discovered Transformers Prime a year ago, I'm happy that people are still talking about it.

    • @blackout_ct1013
      @blackout_ct1013 4 года назад +5

      It's one of my favorite shows!!

    • @anasmbarki4592
      @anasmbarki4592 3 года назад +5

      I grew up watching it. It was airing when I was 8 yo

    • @RogueT-Rex8468
      @RogueT-Rex8468 3 года назад +9

      Fun fact: no matter the fandom, there is always a thriving fan base, because kids grow and discover paths those before them paved and continue on the love.

    • @Vivigreeny25
      @Vivigreeny25 3 года назад +2

      Ikr? I knew about TFP longer than a year but I only REALLY got into it more recently. (Mostly because Cliffjumper dying right of the bat scared me-)

    • @_____________a_a
      @_____________a_a 2 года назад +1

      @@Vivigreeny25 I RECENTLY REWATCHED IT FROM WHEN I WAS A KID AND THAT SHOCKED ME SO BAD. Needless to say, every time I hear Cliffjumper’s name a little bit of my heart breaks.

  • @brahimaswald6006
    @brahimaswald6006 4 года назад +99

    The storyboard artists and animators outdid themselves here! It added such an extra layer of emotion and complexity to the characters actions! Just so so well done!

    • @brahimaswald6006
      @brahimaswald6006 4 года назад +4

      And also Effectively and clearly communicated what each character was feeling on screen in those moments

  • @Theorymus
    @Theorymus 4 года назад +46

    Still one of the best Srarscream incarnations

    • @kovval8835
      @kovval8835 4 года назад +6

      Actually the best

    • @autobothilt7864
      @autobothilt7864 4 года назад +1

      Are there any other versions you think could the best trans?

    • @gispyprime1017
      @gispyprime1017 4 года назад +1

      Trans u here too,I felt I was the only dude here

    • @frost.bytten2023
      @frost.bytten2023 4 года назад

      @@gispyprime1017 not the sure that's the right context, but, cool.

    • @petuniaclaragarryzera
      @petuniaclaragarryzera 2 года назад +1

      srarscream

  • @dimdive7997
    @dimdive7997 4 года назад +156

    Especially for my G1-headcanon to Starscream and the other seekers I have this kind of chart about the wings.
    When they are high and wide the seeker feels intense emotions, is surprised or wants to be seen as a threat.
    When they are high and close together it tends to be about shock or sudden interest.
    When the wings are bit droopy but apart the seeker is relaxed or feels a little unwell, is maybe a little scared, intimidated or unwilling.
    When they are closer together in the same height he is puzzled, a little angry maybe, feels unwell.
    When the wings are low they are unhappy, sad, angry, docile, feeling negative emotions that just get worse when they are closer together.
    So, in general: Wings closer together means more intense emotion or confusion.
    Seekers try to hide their wings when intimidated because they heavily depend on them and don't want them to be harmed.
    Sometimes their wings flutter to show interest or positive emotions.
    And I really like the image that when utterly confused or irritated one of the wings just drops.

    • @Rubywing4
      @Rubywing4 4 года назад +5

      I like this chart too.
      And your mentioning G1 reminds me of a scene in IDW when Starscream (as Ruler of Cybertron) is confronted by Optimus, I don't remember the conversation, but Optimus stands tall and looming over Starscream and is angry at him, and then Starscream droops his wings very low and looks down with closed eyes to show submission and do as Optimus says/advises him to. Or at least promise him that he will do it.
      I just really love the fact that they actually use wing emoting in the IDW comic! :D

    • @dimdive7997
      @dimdive7997 4 года назад +2

      @@Rubywing4 I remember one scene where he sits on his throne with droopy wings.
      In fact I made a redraw of that.
      Don't know the reason tho

    • @dimdive7997
      @dimdive7997 4 года назад +4

      @@Rubywing4 Also I'd say that "eyes closed" is a huuuuge portrayal of trust/submission because OP could do literally anything to him in that moment

    • @nataliaborys1554
      @nataliaborys1554 4 года назад +9

      I also have a headcanon that sometimes seekers have their wings as spread as they go and in the confident position in a gesture of mocking, as in "You're so weak I can walk with the weakest part of my body exposed without any worry." Bonus points as it makes the seeker look bigger.

    • @Rubywing4
      @Rubywing4 4 года назад +6

      I also like to imagine that Seekers might rattle their wings when annoyed and feeling a burst of energy, similar to the fluttering which is more when the Seeker is nervous or excited/happy.
      Speaking of rattling (as in rattlesnake, as in snake), did you know that Starscream's Prime body design is actually based on a cobra?

  • @Red_Death131
    @Red_Death131 4 года назад +41

    Megatron:"DO NOT TAKE ME AS A FOOL STARSCREAM!!!"
    *Megatron second later*21:52
    Note: *Make sure to be paused before clicking the time to not miss it*

    • @LordSalazarsRevenge
      @LordSalazarsRevenge 14 дней назад

      He also has the power to see the future and the past ViViDlY

  • @transformersfan8560
    @transformersfan8560 4 года назад +223

    I know you addressed this but I wanna say it
    STARSCREAM LOOKS CUTE WHEN HIS WINGS ARE DOWN.
    BUT I'M BIG FAN OF OPTIMUS I'M VERY CONFUSED OF MY LIFE CHOICES

    • @autobothilt7864
      @autobothilt7864 4 года назад +14

      Why not both?

    • @transformersfan8560
      @transformersfan8560 4 года назад +17

      @@autobothilt7864 , good point. I do like them both so...... jdhridbrbdjbfhdjdbhfh
      Starscream is cute with his wings down because he looks so innocent

    • @autobothilt7864
      @autobothilt7864 4 года назад +11

      @@transformersfan8560 And then primes the complete opposite. The only time he was kind of innocent was when he was Orion but idk

    • @transformersfan8560
      @transformersfan8560 4 года назад +9

      @@autobothilt7864 , he does smile and I think that's wholesome

    • @autobothilt7864
      @autobothilt7864 4 года назад +2

      @@transformersfan8560 Very true

  • @Ruby-se3vr
    @Ruby-se3vr 4 года назад +46

    During the first assessment at like 17:38 or something idk Starscream's baby wings actually go up a bit when Shock waa ave brings to speak, as he cought his attention. They still do stay about medium level, but it shows that hes paying attention and still nervous, as they are in and higher then his larger wings. Hey this is fun lol-

    • @emperorkumquat
      @emperorkumquat  4 года назад +10

      It is fun, isn't it?? Damn it so much detail

    • @Rubywing4
      @Rubywing4 4 года назад +5

      @@emperorkumquat Also, I noticed that in "Darkness Rising, Part 3", just before Megatron starts punching Starscream, his big wings droop low while his small wing stay up, similar to his faking it in "Thirst".
      What's that mean? Simply worry?

  • @seekerlemm875
    @seekerlemm875 3 года назад +18

    22:02 I know this discussion is about his wings, but imagine the damage he could do if he kneed someone in the gut during a fight.

  • @derweltenbauer269
    @derweltenbauer269 4 года назад +51

    27:37 Wasn't actually thinking of commenting on this, but you didn't really touch on it, and I feel like putting my many countless hours spent in psychology classes to some form of use.
    I believe his wings are still perked up and held close, as if nervous, because, considering how it's gone *literally every other time in any canon that I can remember off the top of my head* for him when he tries to take the throne of the Decepticons, he'd be nervous that Megatron would suddenly appear out of the blue to abuse him for it, as a sort of PTSD reaction; Maybe not prominently shown in his general body language, but subconsciously registering, and affecting the wings' position.
    Just a thought.

    • @emperorkumquat
      @emperorkumquat  4 года назад +11

      Yes, that was what I was thinking afterward, but I didn't think to continue on it when I was doing a live recording. Thanks for saying it

    • @derweltenbauer269
      @derweltenbauer269 4 года назад +8

      @@emperorkumquat ...Oh, lord, I didn't expect you to respond, just expected random eggs perusing the comments.
      Glad to see I wasn't the only one thinking it, at the very least, and I do understand the frustration of figuring out a point raised only immediately AFTER it cannot effectively be changed, so aye. Love the content, love the fact you humanize these characters more than the show ever could, however good it was at it in the first place, and I genuinely appreciate the humility; Makes RUclips seem less cluttered by robots, ironically, on a channel that seems to focus quite a lot on...
      ...
      ...Well, robots!

  • @amiraautobotsamuraiprimusm9435
    @amiraautobotsamuraiprimusm9435 4 года назад +38

    When starscream wings stands up he is trying to look bigger and powerful towards other's.

  • @elliejoey8634
    @elliejoey8634 4 года назад +46

    I agree with you a lot. He is a very smart bot hiding his emotions from people who might threaten him but Think he knows that Megatron will never kill him because Megatron kind of enjoys having him around. I wonder if the there’s made him kind of act like a butterfly and their emotions in things.

  • @13s_ArtStudio
    @13s_ArtStudio Год назад +14

    My thoughts when I see TFP Starscream:
    It's adorable!
    Oh, it's traumatized...

  • @skycrapper5902
    @skycrapper5902 4 года назад +68

    My favorite character is Shockwave❤
    I like his expressions trough the little antenas and trough his rough voice. You don't really see him scared,paniced,or sad,not even happy, because he works hand in hand with the logic,and he is a very powerfull bot. The only time I have seen him paniced,is when he was in front of those predacon-zombies. He wasn't paniced not even when the rubble from the Dark Mount almost crushed him,and calmly told Soundwave that he needs a groundbridge,and walks in that groundbridge like a boss😂😂
    I also like a lot the fact that Shockwave takes kindness very seriously. When he worked with Ratchet at the sinthetyc energeon formula,he spoke to him very calmly and nicely,just like to a friend,from doctor to doctor,unlike Knockout. When he needs to leave,he tells Knockout "take care of our guest" not prisoneer or something. And when Ratchet tries to stop Shockwave to cyberform the Earth,he doesen't charge at him, UNTIL Ratchet charges first.

    • @autobothilt7864
      @autobothilt7864 4 года назад +16

      Someones got a cruuuush
      Okay but fr, I never really noticed that. People refer to him as "cold and calculating" but I know realize the warmer side of him. Also, I think he shows a sort of fatherly side when around the predacons. This really goes to show that war or not you dont have to be a monster.

    • @skycrapper5902
      @skycrapper5902 4 года назад +9

      @@autobothilt7864 I love when he is petting the predacons❤ he makes them seem cute :)

    • @shamellmichaels291
      @shamellmichaels291 4 года назад +4

      That is............logical

    • @shamellmichaels291
      @shamellmichaels291 4 года назад +2

      @@autobothilt7864
      At first that was illogical then it became logical so it is neutral

  • @BeanSoop69
    @BeanSoop69 Год назад +7

    This gives me serotonin for some reason, and I keep coming back

  • @gispyprime1017
    @gispyprime1017 4 года назад +102

    Why do I feel like the only dude watching this

  • @BashfulLine
    @BashfulLine 4 года назад +46

    It's good to see someone still liking this show

  • @beepboop7023
    @beepboop7023 3 года назад +12

    you would be a good therapist for starscream

  • @nickw3132
    @nickw3132 4 года назад +70

    Girls talking about transformers is something I never knew i needed in a wife

    • @shamellmichaels291
      @shamellmichaels291 4 года назад +6

      Me too buddy me too

    • @evilMissRune
      @evilMissRune 3 года назад +2

      same

    • @cherry414
      @cherry414 3 года назад +14

      Oh boy, there are a LOT of girls who loves TF (I'm one of them lol). I think you can easily get a wife that's into Transformers.

    • @misschivous6435
      @misschivous6435 3 года назад +6

      @@cherry414 i second that as a female (are we finna make a chain or something lol?)

    • @archalys0
      @archalys0 5 месяцев назад

      That sounds weird

  • @miketheswordlesbian7545
    @miketheswordlesbian7545 Год назад +9

    Aside from being physically uncomfortable, the clamp also holds Starscream’s wings in the fear position. That may also motivate him to want it off.

  • @NightcrawlerNC
    @NightcrawlerNC 4 года назад +36

    Thanks for keeping the tfp community alive

  • @Eckskalibur
    @Eckskalibur 4 года назад +15

    You know it's these details that most would think as unnecessary to animate to begin with, but it's such small details that only enhance the viewers subconscious understanding on what characters (in this case Starscream) are actually feeling.

  • @softiemama
    @softiemama 4 года назад +19

    TFP content in 2020? YELL YEAHHH

  • @junkiie9107
    @junkiie9107 3 года назад +11

    My favorite wing movement was when he was in the room with Megatron, Knockout, and Shockwave, as they leave the room his wings go way far down, I thought it was just so cute and concerning!

  • @MoeMoeJoeJoe
    @MoeMoeJoeJoe 4 года назад +7

    30 minute video about Starscreams wings.
    I like it.

  • @brookerickettson4950
    @brookerickettson4950 3 года назад +18

    This is exactly the kind of deep dive in depth hyper payoff character analysis that I feed on like ( for an in show reference)a zombiecon! Starscream is so expressive, and Prime’s animators clearly went the extra mile and his wings “talk “ too! As you mentioned, the skill in battle is there, but he's so conditioned by Megatron, then any large form that he never expresses that skill unless it is to flee impossible to escape situations. Pity they never discuss the wing speak in universe. Still, this made my week, possibly whole month!! Thank you! Thankyou !THANKYOU!

  • @andrewhornbeck526
    @andrewhornbeck526 3 года назад +10

    So I'm noticing really early that his wings change his profile, and also his general appearance. This helps the viewer, and those around him, notice a change in him, along with noticing if he's alert, or even elicit feelings of him being larger-like to ward off predators-or smaller-to elicit pity from those around him, to withdraw and make his overall silloette smaller and more dimunitive.

  • @smoekje7642
    @smoekje7642 4 года назад +14

    God his wing movement gives me life

  • @Rubywing4
    @Rubywing4 4 года назад +33

    Actually, now that I've looked closer at his wings in RID, they do seem capable of movement, perhaps slightly up and down, but nothing too noteworthy, perhaps.
    He might still be capable of flicking and fluttering the wings, as well as pressing them inward, since they do seem able to move, having such a small, narrow base on his back.
    Starscream might actually be capable of moving and emoting with his wings in RID, but simply doesn't because he's got his confidence back with his new/old body. Had he had more episodes to appear in, perhaps if he stayed in season 3/final season, we might have seen some wing emoting, transforming, and perhaps even bot mode flight.
    I believe RID Starscream is capable of flying in bot mode, even without the help of the Mini-Cons.
    Since Starscream doesn't ever transform (of what we've seen anyway) in the three episodes he appeared in, he might not have felt compelled to fly at any point in his showtime.
    He does mention in "Mighty Big Trouble", right after he confiscates the Dark Star Saber, that he's "not powered up enough", just before the Saber resists him.
    Perhaps the reason he didn't transform or even fly until he possessed the Mini-Cons is because he was saving his energy and strength for when he was to confront Megatron, or even simply to take full control of the Weaponizers?
    I have a headcanon (that may also be actual canon, maybe) that flight in bot mode spends more energy and Energon than flight in alternate mode, so perhaps by not flying in bot mode he was saving energy, which would make sense.
    The reason why I believe he has the ability to fly in bot mode is because of the final seconds of his appearance in the show, right after the Mini-Cons split from him.
    Everyone falls to the ship, both Mini-Cons and Autobots, but Starscream stays in the air for several more seconds, at least ten more seconds, long after the magic light from the Mini-Cons has disappeared. There's nothing holding him up, so why doesn't he just fall down at the same time as the others?
    The Dark Star Saber falls from his hand and still Starscream stays in the air for several more seconds before he loses consciousness. It's first after he falls unconscious that he physically begins to fall down as well.
    Even though there are no flames from thrusters coming from his heels, like there does from Optimus' jetpack, it could still be that Starscream was staying in the air out of his own ability to fly rather than because of the Mini-Cons.
    In that case, maybe the Mini-Cons themselves don't grant him the ability to fly in bot mode, but simply give him so much energy and power (beyond that of a Prime) that he can freely fly without spending any (or much) energy, and it also gives him more speed so he can fly even faster.
    There's also the matter of when Starscream defeats all the bots using the Dark Star Saber and everyone falls unconscious. He jumps down from the ship, in which the opening to the lab is pretty far up, too high to jump unto. He grabs Tricerashot and walks back to the ship.
    Now, if he wasn't able to fly in bot mode, he would have to go through the bottom entrance to the ship, then walk all the long and slow way up to the lab at the top. It probably takes several minutes to go the long way, and considering everything that happens afterwards, it doesn't seem like it's taken him several minutes to get there, but rather a few seconds.
    With a character as impatient as Starscream, I would imagine him being a bit more on edge when he reaches the lab if he had to walk the long way rather than simply activating his thrusters and leap up the short way, saving valuable time. This would of course happen off-screen so we're not sure how he got up there or how much time it took. But considering his final moments in the air, without Mini-Cons, I think he flew up there with his (possible) thrusters.
    Considering how much larger Starscream has become, especially his legs and feet, and how much thicker his heels are, it seems likely that his legs, feet and/or heels could house thrusters, like he has them in Animated, Cyberverse and even G1, where he also has heels and feet of about the same proportions. There are also lights under his feet in RID, which could indicate heat from thrusters.
    Also, his original body had the ability to fly in bot mode (mostly thinking about the WFC/FOC game version, but I think it's the same in the books?), so if this RID body is supposed to be the same body (or at least same body *style* like Bee said), it is likely he can fly in bot mode in it as well.
    The reason why he doesn't fly in bot mode to prove it is for the same reason as why he never transforms in the show. Possibly to save strength and energy for when it's needed, instead using his ship's GroundBridge to get around and using holograms to communicate with Bumblebee instead of showing up himself.
    In fact, Starscream never fights until he absorbs the Weaponizers, he doesn't even use the cannons mounted on his arms! He only uses the Dark Star Saber to make effortless attacks and using its power, rather than his own. Once he absorbs the Mini-Cons, he has more energy and power "than he could ever imagine - AnimatedSS", so he spends lots of energy on flying, darting around and attacking.
    The sheer power of the complete power surge is probably also the reason why he can now fully control the Dark Star Saber. Before the power surge, he is only able to control a small amount of its power, because he's not evil. The Dark Star Saber obeys Megatron because he has the Blood of Unicron inside of him, in his very Spark. Starscream did put Dark Energon in him, but took it out again, and while there might remain a small amount of it in his Spark, it's clearly not enough to make him "evil" like Megatron. And because of this, he's not evil enough to control the Saber either.
    But with power greater than that of a Prime, it seems the Dark Star Saber submits itself to its wielder, regardless of being good or evil.
    Once all that energy was robbed of him though, by removing the Mini-Cons from him, all that energy he spent darting around in hyperactivity, just vanished and he's completely drained of energy. He has just enough energy left to stay in the air for a few more seconds before dropping the Dark Star Saber and then falling unconscious himself, after which he cannot keep himself in the air anymore. We can see that he is still conscious while holding the Saber, as he is twitching and grunting, but once after he drops the Saber, he becomes limp and quiet, and then he falls, because he's lost consciousness.
    Wow, this turned out to be quite an analysis comment than I intended XD
    But yeah, so I believe Starscream CAN move/emote with his wings in RID but chooses not to, just as he chooses not to transform or fly in bot mode, which I also believe he CAN do.
    His teeth also became slightly sharper (or at least he got fangs) in RID, perhaps to look more imposing than when he was a small, skinny wimp.
    Also love Fixit's quote: "Have you been... working out?" XD
    Instantly imagining Starscream in a fitness center, pumping iron. XD

  • @M1ABRIMSvsPANZER
    @M1ABRIMSvsPANZER 4 года назад +5

    I still love that shockwave just picks up starscream and books it .

  • @paolagarcia3009
    @paolagarcia3009 3 года назад +8

    in fact it is canon that the wings (Starscream, Flycons, other flyers), set (Bee, Smokescreen), antennas (Shockwave, Optimus, Ratchet), tires,doors (knock out, Optimus, Bulckhead), among other things are a sensitive point in her/his body and show mood as well.

  • @Rubywing4
    @Rubywing4 4 года назад +27

    25:56 I like how slow his running is there, like there's low gravity in that forest lol
    28:38 I saw a TFP AMV with "Holding Out For A Hero" from Shrek 2, and this scene's music covered the scene where Starscream is trapped in web and looking at Optimus with puppy eyes XD So perfect!
    When I watched the show, I first noticed his wing emoting in, I think, "Armada", because I think that's the first time we see him droop his wings when he's scared?
    I never noticed in season 1 or other times in seasons 2 and 3 or the movie when he made other movements or positioned them in different ways, perhaps only because the drooping is so dramatic and different from his default position compared to the other positions, like when they're folded back when he's threatened by Megatron in the Energon mine.
    Next time I'm watching the full show, I'm definitely gonna pay attention to his wings, as well as the Autobots' winglets and how they move in certain situations.
    I definitely did notice that in "Partners", when Arcee is downed by Scream, her winglets point downward instead of the usual upward, and I thought "What's going on?", but I did think it was reflecting her fear/other negative emotion at that point.
    And the first time I noticed it with Bumblebee was in "Operation Bumblebee", which I think is the first time where we see Bumblebee's winglets droop?
    Man, I really love wing emoting! So cute

  • @shockwavethedog
    @shockwavethedog 2 года назад +6

    I really like Starscream’s wing movements because it subtly tells the person who is watching the show what Starscream is feeling, even without seeing his facial expression.

  • @ninjamasterbuilder8675
    @ninjamasterbuilder8675 4 года назад +18

    Wow this video taught me a lot about starscream's emotions and the way his wings move in different areas on his back

  • @DreadnoughtHvor
    @DreadnoughtHvor 2 года назад +7

    Honestly I never noticed it before but once you mentioned it I was like "you right".
    Knowing jet anatomy, it's kinda trippy that he uses his horizontal stabilizers (the little wings) to emote as well.

  • @Bean-qq2ik
    @Bean-qq2ik Год назад +2

    9:21 My FAVORITE Starscream scene! The animation, voice acting, and dialogue are just mwah *chef's kiss

  • @douglas2057
    @douglas2057 3 года назад +8

    I think that the wing animations had registered on a subconscious level before, but looking at it consciously, it was a fantastic bit of animation on the part of the creators. Prime was FULL of these kind of subtle things which is what made it so fantastic, and helped bring the characters to life!
    It's so much better than most of the live-verse transformers with so many moving parts, yet SO LITTLE expression. I think they finally took a page from the Prime verse when they made Bumblebee, because the expressiveness of the characters were so much better!

  • @NathanWhitford
    @NathanWhitford 4 года назад +43

    sometimes i feel like i have wings on my back when my emotions change. if only they could help me fly away...

    • @blackout_ct1013
      @blackout_ct1013 4 года назад +4

      Oh man I feel you

    • @shamellmichaels291
      @shamellmichaels291 4 года назад +2

      Ok here how build a suit design so it flew....... (Now feel like listening to a favourite song of mine) or become a cyborg

    • @Rubywing4
      @Rubywing4 4 года назад +1

      I wish I had wings to emote with.
      Would be fricking awesome.

    • @C.L.G._Artisa
      @C.L.G._Artisa 3 года назад

      @Nathonus Prime - Relatable...

  • @ursidae97
    @ursidae97 Месяц назад +1

    So glad they chose to give Starscream more expressive animation. He's so much fun to watch and listen to.

  • @StaleCrony
    @StaleCrony 4 года назад +19

    Those little wings are his Elevators; they control pitch when flying.

    • @DreadnoughtHvor
      @DreadnoughtHvor 2 года назад

      Actually the type of jet he is don't actually have elevators on their horizontal stabilizers. Control surfaces are exclusively on the actual wings.

  • @fuyiiirex
    @fuyiiirex 4 года назад +29

    What if Megatron had his wings on his shoulder blades like Starscream?

    • @liambarberian395
      @liambarberian395 4 года назад +8

      I think his wings make the bottom part of his legs because is you see the wings their curved like his shins are so I think the wings are on his legs to make the bottom part of them

    • @emperorkumquat
      @emperorkumquat  4 года назад +18

      He would be really tall

    • @fuyiiirex
      @fuyiiirex 4 года назад +2

      Emperor Kumquat omg yassss (I’m a huge Megatron fangirl)

    • @emperorkumquat
      @emperorkumquat  4 года назад +19

      @@fuyiiirex And I'm sure 90% of the emotions we would see would be anger. All flaring and rage

    • @whynot6266
      @whynot6266 3 года назад +2

      @@fuyiiirex Ooohhh, a woman of culture I see

  • @autobothilt7864
    @autobothilt7864 4 года назад +25

    Best youtuber hands down thank you for making videos!

  • @concept5631
    @concept5631 4 года назад +15

    The more of these episodes I watch the more I realize Megatron is an abusive husband.

    • @UrdnotRed
      @UrdnotRed 3 года назад +2

      Taking into consideration the issue of Starscream's painfully unsuccessful treacherous streak and Megatron's ever flaring temper, Starscream placed himself into a situation that'd result in major damage if not death. Compare that to Megatron's relationship with Soundwave, which is docile and understanding, he's always borderline going to kill Starscream. If his Conjux wasn't foolishly self centered like Starscream, I'm sure their relationship would be fine.

    • @concept5631
      @concept5631 Год назад

      ​@@UrdnotRed Still sounds abusive.

    • @kampfgeist7703
      @kampfgeist7703 Год назад

      To be fair Starscream tired to kill him and keep him dead. Megatron doesn't act like that with Soundwave but then again Soundwave can do no wrong lmao

  • @spooky5077
    @spooky5077 4 года назад +13

    His wings are like animal ears.

  • @Knock0ut-Starscream
    @Knock0ut-Starscream 4 года назад +10

    Great video. Starscream is one of my all time favorite Transformers with Knock Out being the other one.

  • @hannahsanchez2043
    @hannahsanchez2043 4 года назад +5

    I don't even fangirl over Starscream, but I love the details of this video.

  • @dimdive7997
    @dimdive7997 4 года назад +14

    Yes! Yes! Thank you so much! Your content is so interesting and... well, awesome! I mean, a video about Starscreams wings?? Can it get better?

  • @incyray9709
    @incyray9709 3 года назад +2

    Starscream: flutters wings
    Me: BUTTERFLY-

  • @goldswimmimgram345
    @goldswimmimgram345 3 года назад +3

    Starscream - *puts wings down* you cant hurt me I’m baby!

  • @zetohojoin4505
    @zetohojoin4505 3 года назад +7

    Tf prime is great specially Soundwave, and Shockwave their personality somewhat unique from other series, Soundwave is silent, imposing, intimidating, while Shockwave is strong, intelligent, and calculating, the only mistake is Starscream he is the wimp of the series, how I wish he is like the Starscream from Transformers Cybertron the most badass version of Starscream

  • @tdpuuhailee8222
    @tdpuuhailee8222 4 года назад +12

    Next video about Soundwave's/Shockwave's emotions

  • @TheJosiahTurner
    @TheJosiahTurner 4 года назад +5

    yall talking about starscream's wings when im sitting here wondering how the hell he reloads his rockets

    • @emperorkumquat
      @emperorkumquat  4 года назад +5

      TheJosiahTurner Probably has a stash somewhere and clips them back on. Whenever they reappear after he has fired, it is only an animation mistake

    • @TheJosiahTurner
      @TheJosiahTurner 4 года назад +4

      ​@@emperorkumquati feel like half the time he doesnt even realize he has rockets lmao

  • @barrythechopper
    @barrythechopper 4 года назад +4

    We all saw his little wing flutter when he was trapped with Knock Out. :3 We also see this in Bumblebee's doors and Steeljaws ears.

  • @KidvsKatAdmirer
    @KidvsKatAdmirer 4 года назад +12

    It's a very informative video. I love how you pay attention to details and talk about it. I like your analysis. Besides that this video only proves that the show with its animations and details is superior to any other series

  • @atlasproductions9933
    @atlasproductions9933 4 года назад +4

    A 29 minute video about starscreams wings perfection 👌

  • @dominics.8796
    @dominics.8796 4 года назад +2

    Thanks. Now every time I will watch this show and Starscream will pop up, I will involuntary stare at his wing...

  • @BPJD2004
    @BPJD2004 2 года назад +8

    Emotions being shown through wing movement and angulation is what I usually see in Seekers in most Transformers series' (except the Unicron Trilogy, where the characters' wings are fixed in place), but I also think that this study could be used to decipher Praxian behavior as well. And on an extra note, for those of you who don't know, Praxians are characters such as G1 Prowl, Smokescreen and Bluestreak, and perhaps/maybe not Prime/RID Bumblebee, who have "doorwings".

  • @shakirmorgan4840
    @shakirmorgan4840 Год назад +3

    I'm SO late to this, but I interpret 12:05's wing movements to be a way of saying that Starscream doesn't need to put on a front anymore, or use his wings to intimidate or gain respect, because he already has it.

  • @insertsomestupidsilynamehere
    @insertsomestupidsilynamehere 4 года назад +14

    oh and btw those small wings are actualy his elevators (something to do with jet)

    • @Rubywing4
      @Rubywing4 4 года назад +1

      Wow, I never knew that.
      Strange name to give wings... but I guess it makes sense?? To elevate? Keep straight?

    • @insertsomestupidsilynamehere
      @insertsomestupidsilynamehere 4 года назад

      @@Rubywing4 well yea they basicly help to control the aoa of a plane

    • @Rubywing4
      @Rubywing4 4 года назад

      @@insertsomestupidsilynamehere I've looked closer at his jet mode, and I think the smaller wings on his back actually aren't his elevators, but the horizontal stabilizer.
      tfwiki.net/wiki/File:OutOfHisHead-grabby.jpg
      Here you can see the fin in the middle actually consists of two wings, and they're the same size and shape as Starscream's smaller pair of wings in bot mode, while the elevators are much smaller and in a different shape.
      tfwiki.net/wiki/File:Tfprimestarscreamjet.jpg
      Here we can see what the elevators look like. Smaller and in a different shape than his bot wings.
      tfwiki.net/wiki/File:Primetoy-StarscreamDeluxe.jpg
      Also, if you look at his first Prime toy (Deluxe), you can actually see that the two smaller wings go together to make the horizontal stabilizer, while the elevators are a different shape and size. (I know toys aren't always the same as the show, but in this case his toy and show carnations are very accurate to each other when it comes to where everything is.)
      Question is then... where are his elevators in bot mode then?

    • @insertsomestupidsilynamehere
      @insertsomestupidsilynamehere 4 года назад +1

      @@Rubywing4 you do know that a elevators and a horizontal stabilizer is one thing right??? ._. atleast on most modern combat jets as well as other planes but it's bit complicated for me to explain. if u want me to explain it like more speficikly dm me for my discord and we can talk there

    • @Rubywing4
      @Rubywing4 4 года назад

      @@insertsomestupidsilynamehere Uh, no, I didn't know they were the same thing.
      I just looked up a picture on google where it pointed at the... horizontal ones and it said elevators, then it pointed at the... vertical one and it said horizontal stabilizer?
      Okay, now I just looked again, and it's pointing at a PART of the horizontal small wings that says "elevator", and then it points at the rest of the wings and says "horizontal stabilizer".
      I thought it pointed at the vertical fin in the middle...
      Is the fin in the middle also an elevator?
      In any case, it's the fin in the middle that's his smaller wings in bot mode. That was really my point...
      Sorry, I actually don't really know much about vehicle anatomy... I only really know what I do from Transformers...
      ...now I feel dumb. And embarrassed.

  • @killa-xe2me
    @killa-xe2me 3 года назад +5

    Therapist: starscream without wings isn't real he cant hurt you
    Starscream without wings: 5:54

  • @No_complaints.__
    @No_complaints.__ 3 года назад +3

    Never thought I'd be watching an analysis of screamers wings 6 years after watching this show

  • @ULTRAtheCYBORG
    @ULTRAtheCYBORG 3 года назад +3

    "I AM THE SUPERIOR MEGATRON! I Have Wings Of Swift Movement..."
    Seriously
    This Is Just One Of Those Details That Happens But You Never Notice Until Someone Tells You About It
    And Then You Just Notice It All The Time And Start Loving That Detail So Much

  • @jexusdomel5194
    @jexusdomel5194 3 года назад +4

    I used to catch some EPs of these but never truly commit to watching thoroughly. However I always felt the series seemed a cut above the rest, being polished and interesting. This imo clearly shows that I was right, really cool stuff

  • @47ratsinahoodie
    @47ratsinahoodie 3 года назад +9

    Rewatching this video, I just noticed that Megatron's fingers are way less articulated than Starscream's and I think Knockout's, too. With Knockout, I can understand that cause he's a medic so it'd make sense for his fingers to have more joints and more movement but for Starscream to also have those heavily jointed digits seems a little weird (maybe it's helpful for combat). Idk, it's just something I noticed while imitating Megatron punching through the mine wall and finding the hidden energon. I noticed he didn't look like he was holding the energon super tightly and then I saw he had fewer joints than Star.

    • @mihuioti
      @mihuioti 5 месяцев назад +1

      I think it's because he was formerly a scientist! He would also have to have super delicate movements when handling chemicals or other sensitive objects. I don't remember if his past profession is ever said or implied in Prime, but it'd make sense if he were canonically confirmed to be a scientist pre-war
      If that isn't the case, then I think its a design choice used to communicate that he's generally more delicate than the other transformers (megatron for example is obviously beefier and rougher with his actions), along with making him as expressive as he is in the show

    • @47ratsinahoodie
      @47ratsinahoodie 5 месяцев назад

      @@mihuioti Ooh that makes sense!

  • @Breadn
    @Breadn 4 года назад +14

    ha jet moment

  • @sunflowers-in-tulips6705
    @sunflowers-in-tulips6705 3 года назад +4

    The way the transformers moved in TFP was always fantastic. And the expressions of course :D

  • @TheKingofbrooklin
    @TheKingofbrooklin 4 года назад +31

    Would you do an analysis on Breakdown ? His character was really up to something and then they just killed him off.

    • @shadowfire200
      @shadowfire200 3 года назад +6

      Same with Dreadwing 😂 , she did a
      Video about Breakdown

  • @minimoonie6431
    @minimoonie6431 4 года назад +3

    We love megatrons derpy eyes 👁👄👁👌🏻

  • @minx9591
    @minx9591 4 года назад +4

    *ending*
    The fandom: DONT EXPOSE US

  • @gallifreycat7065
    @gallifreycat7065 4 года назад +2

    Wings are one of the sensitive spots on a cybertronian

  • @NixFlix012
    @NixFlix012 4 года назад +4

    Also I realized that when starscream is angry, his wings go down as if sad or frightened, but they also come down slowly and tremble a lot.

  • @astronaut9571
    @astronaut9571 4 года назад +32

    lets be honest starscream is our favourite waifu

  • @ifyourmarriedyourasimpanda7440
    @ifyourmarriedyourasimpanda7440 3 года назад +3

    Shockwave is my favorite transformer, and his smaller wings around his head and upper back also do this, it's less noticable because Shockwave expresses little to no emotion but it is still visible especially when shockwave is talking to megatron.

  • @tobiothan7303
    @tobiothan7303 2 года назад +2

    I love watching these I never thought starscream had so much depth

  • @vidicuss3933
    @vidicuss3933 4 года назад +2

    An almost 30 minute video about going in depth of someones wings. Very impressive, shows lots of dedication and how much work you put in this.

  • @maxtheminipinscher539
    @maxtheminipinscher539 4 года назад +2

    Starscream is like a 🦔

  • @TuberoseKisser
    @TuberoseKisser 3 года назад +3

    TFP gave us Starscream wings and Shockwave head fins.

  • @knockdown3620
    @knockdown3620 4 года назад +1

    Starscreenm is always that baby

  • @pinkyoukai1997
    @pinkyoukai1997 4 года назад +4

    This is really random- But your voice is calming to listen to ^^ Loved the vid:)

  • @AmosOG
    @AmosOG 4 года назад +2

    Wings of a scrawny (but intelligent) decepticon

  • @ideology8323
    @ideology8323 4 года назад +2

    this robo dude is like one of the main comedians in this show
    he is very important because of that