Is Starscream Actually Evil? No, and here is why: Character Analysis as Defence
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- Let's talk about Transformers Prime Starscream and his interactions with other characters. What fate does he deserve? Should the Predacons kill him, or are they in the wrong? Is Starscream abused by Megatron? Why is he acting so strange in season three? Perhaps he is misjudged and treated a bit too harshly by other characters, and he has the potential to change... Here are my findings and feelings about TFP Starscream to argue against some common negative thoughts toward him.
I have never done a video like this before, so I would appreciate your kindness!
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In other words, Starscream is a representation of the victims of the civil war on Cybertron, the ones who had to join a faction so that they could survive. Heck, Knock Out is another example of this. He only joined the Decepticons because he didn't have a choice, and because he wanted to be on "the winning team".
@@BasedVegeta ok dorito >:3
That same reason is what makes both starscream and knockout somewhat cowardly.
Neither of them really believe in the decepticon cause (whatever that was). And that was mostly due to the fact that neither of them had a reason to do so. Starscream was a well-off elite seeker commander and arguably benefitted from the functionist caste system before the war broke out. Knockout isn't even from cybertron (he and breakdown are from velocitron) so he doesn't completely understand or care about the decepticon cause because the cause wasn't a part of his life experiences.
When you really think about it, starscream joined the decepticons out of spite for sentinel prime's cowardice and leadership. Knockout joined for his own personal survival.
If anything I would have done the same
@@nil981 wait Knockout is from Velocitron ? Though that was from IDW .
Except both Starscream AND Knockout express clear sadistic streaks, and have no regard for human life as being equal to their own. Heck, they have no problem killing the Autobots which are their own kind. Then there's Starscream's obvious lust for power. And if Starscream didn't believe in the Deception cause, why not take Optimus's offer up when Megatron was AWOL? Starscream had a chance to be a real leader and end the war, but didn't because of his own bloated sense of pride.
"Soundwave is Soundwave..."
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On that we agree
Yep I agree
100%
Correction soundwave is " The best around, no one's ever gonna bring you down"
Soundwave superior, everyone else inferior
He must have been wearing nikes or something to outrun 3 predacons
More like Adidas
So do they make Nike heels now? I wonder if they’re comfy..
@@somethingstupidlyobscure better more,stylish
space jordans
If Starscream played Basketball you guys think he'd be the three pointer type or the dunking type?
"Starscream remembers kindness-
And then returns it."
Perfect ending line to sum up starscream
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I love him as a character, especially his Prime character. The way he acted in Prime was so entertaining.
I just wish that they kept a similar design for him in RID. I hate RID personally, but only watch it for his character.
@@Breadn agreed his rid design is honestly a pure disappointment. wish they keep the old design and make him a tiny bit bulky it would be awesome
Brenonon well he said he wanted to look as powerful as he felt. I guess he wanted to match the color scheme of his G1 version while doing it 😂
Ymir nooo I love his slim figure!! I really like it! (I tolerate to heels)
I swear starscream was always hilarious XD
He seems to be the most realistic character in the series actually.
True neutral personality, if not bordering on neutral good with his willingness to seek prosperity for all of Cybertron, even if it's to reassure himself of his own safety and worth.
It's much easier to live a happy and content life if you have no enemies, and thus he'd rather be adored by his kind than respected.
True
All dictators take note.
You forgot about the scene when he was pumped up by red energon and could have killed all of them but did not
That is true
He was taking his time. He would gave killed them eventually
Dank Starscream We don’t need to be sure. Starscream is practically gleaming about how freely he’s going to slit their throats after he’s already grabbed the keys. Arcee closing the ground bridge is the only thing that stops him. I guarantee you, had Arcee not been as close as she was, Starscream would’ve gleefully gutted them.
Dank Starscream No, I did pay attention to the entire video. I found it very interesting, even if i ultimately disagreed with the main point of it. But yeah, on this point of “Was Starscream really going to kill the Autobots during his Omega Heist?” The answer is yes. Go rewatch the scene and see for yourself as I did. Look at his mannerisms and eagerness. He would’ve gladly done it had Arcee not been cutting off his escape route.
Thats because the red energon was fading and he knew he didn't have time
People not understanding how unhealthy dependence works in the comments section are actually truly entertaining. Like, no, it’s not that easy to just shake off the Decepticons and call it that, because one, Megatron, and two, Starscream was used to it. In a very toxic way, he already views himself as beneath Megatron, and it’s especially clear in Season 3 that he truly believed that the abuse given to him by Megatron was justified. Even in the earlier seasons, there were many instances where this mentality shows up even though I can’t remember any right now. The truth is that it’s not easy to leave something like the Decepticons behind, and I sincerely doubt that Hasbro would want to invest the time and effort into coming up with a substantial character arc for Starscream, which is truly saddening because he is, IMO, the most interesting and complex character in the entirety of TFP.
Dank Starscream oh primus, ikr. It’s entertaining but annoying. I love your username.
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Yes the Starscream viewing himself beneath Megatron does show up in the episode where Megatron almost kills him the mine, but thanks to Arcee he escapes. When Starscream escapes successfully he begins to laugh and gloats about Megatron possibly being crushed under the rocks, and then he remembers that Megatron has survived far worse (Space Bridge explosion) and began to list the many reasons why he SHOULDN’T abandon Megatron, and one of those is approval for Megatron's rescue. Then he goes after Megatron in the mine and as he holds a big ass rock to save himself and is found by Megatron, Starscream is (or acts as if he feel genuinly happy) glad that Megatron still lives. And what does he get ? Megatron begins to smile sadistically as Starscream is nearly crushed by the rock.
@@WhyTho525 Primus I know. Why people would ship megastar remains beyond me because they truly have an abuser-victim dynamic that just never sits right with me. Starscream deserves so much better than Megatron.
@@ladyvoso6392
Yeah, shipping Megatron and Starscream is like shipping Harley Quinn and Joker....Completely idiotic, nonsensical and outright sick.
Megatron loaths Starscream, and the Starscream hates Megatron to the core too. However, Starscream is so damaged mentally that he has a NEED to prove himself to others, esspecially Megatron and no...not romantically. Everyone who thinks otherwise needs help.
The same can be said for Harley's and Joker's relationship. Joker doesn’t love Harley, in his eyes Harley is just a puppet and Harley just can't really escape Joker's influence in many versions.
These relationships are toxic, abusive and not romantic at all. Also Megatron is not gay and neither is Starscream. Fanfic writers can go wherever they want and rethink their life choices about this topic.
Sadly we’ll never get a Starscream like the one in Armada
Another thing that shows Starscream's skills: Every time he transforms.
Ever noticed how flashy his transformations are, with agile moves and pretty much insane dives and stunts?
Of course. He himself said that he transforms with a certain sense of style. Megatron didn't seem to be all that impressed, though.
@@occam7382 Megatron is trash he let those traitors live after betraying him
His flying skills are pretty much the only thing he's confident on
@@Yonster781 Don’t forget that Megatron dedicated himself to being high on space crack
Ofc he is he was an elite seeker commandor before the war and was said to be one of the best flyers in all of Cybertron
"Did Starscream deserve any of the abuse?" No, point blank period. NO ONE deserves to be abused. Also it's nice to see credit where it's due, Starscream is more capable than he is shown to be on screen and was probably the closest to killing Optimus before Megatron when full joker and decided he should be the only one who gets to fuck with/kill OP
I'm sorry but your profile picture tho'-
@@Sitikusayangful ikr when you step on a Lego
Why not try autobots
Rapists should be meet with hugs, not jail time
@@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon Starscream is a rapist?
to be fair I can understand why the autobots where so unwilling to help him. I mean he has a well known reputation for being ruthless and a trickster so to be fair they where probably worried it was just another scam at first. and to be fair the reason why in my opinion megatron lashed out at the end was becuase he was genuinly tired of fighting and just lashed out because he was angered at the thought of causing more harm to others and not truly mad at starscream. I think in this case star scream just happened to be unlucky enough to say it first.
its amazing what the writers subtly put into the show.
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To me starscream was never evil, but just a really ruthless and cunning opportunist
he killed cliffjumper in cold blood tho
@@markz1831 Arachnid was no different, Star Scream was just duty his job.
Greed and selfishness are the roots of all evil.
Gyrre in starscreams case he can’t really be considered “evil” because he did everything in his best interest. If what was best for was killing all of mankind he’d do it to save his skin. If it was teaming up with the autobots he’d do that to
Tht does sound a bit evil though
Prime Starscream ain't evil, but he is a jerkticon. Though yeah, he kinda was the chew toy and him going renegade for a time was simply because of his mistreatment.
He still murdered Cliff jumper in cold blood.
@@tayojones9460 Yeah. So far his only truly evil thing...and resurrecting Skyquake as a Terrorcon. Well he's not PURE evil at least.
He was mistreated because he tied to fucking kill megatron
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@Brendan McAteer since when do the decepticons care about giving prisoners of war decent treatment? Hell even the autobots are more consistent with treating captured enemy combatants better than the decepticons.
I find this analysation interesting because in a sense it makes Starscream out to be this Shakespearean tragedy.
What was once this proud military fighter so skilled that he earned the title of the elite is now this grovelling, toxic and cowardly shell so unsure of his own skills that he crawls back to someone who would kill him unless he was useful to his own agenda for protection.
We see glimpses of his abilities and honestly it’s the most badass I’ve seen Starscream besides the Armada and animated series (ya know the one where the autobots are superheroes for a few seasons… yeah that got better when the Decepticons showed up)
There’s also a hint of real representation of a narcissistic personality in Starscream, I don’t know much about psychology but from what I do know Narcissists will often look for validation from those they respect the most, it’s why he acts the way he does around anyone, he thinks that it will please those he thinks are better than him while also lashing out at his own weaknesses.
This is amplified once he encounters Predaking, to him the predacon was nothing more than a mindless beast, something he can bully so that he can feel big for once, it could also explain his hatred for human kind, again something smaller than him that he can exploit.
Most of the times we see Starscream around human characters he’s always berating them or frightening them out of sheer enjoyment, he knows that if he really wanted to he could crush humans like bugs and so that shows something he can hold power over, something he can finally bully the same way Megatron bullies him in a sad attempt to make himself seem big.
Just something I thought I’d say really maybe I’m overthinking this ya know.
This is a good take. I would have liked to see his skills fully demonstrated too, because in the show he does show evidence of being a decent strategist and fighter. Like that episode where he sneaked onto the ship and pretended that he was still second in command to trick the vehicons, and when they chased him out the ship he transformed, landed on one, blasted it, and transformed back into a jet without missing a beat. Usually he seems pretty sneaky with the way he chooses to fight, but I wanna see him in action in an actual close combat fight.
Starscream certainly isn't dumb or incompetent.I mean, if i 100% remember correctly, in one of the Branches of the Transformer's Franchise, after the civil war, when Starscream became one of Cybertrons leading Senators/Council Member's, he legit creater one of the, if not The *Greatest* Government's in the History of Cybertron.
With mech starscream was pretty friendly to the humans
In other words, Starscream from Prime suffers from Stockholm' syndrome.
And PTSD, I mean all those years of abuse by Megatron could leave a mark
@@WhyTho525 Pretty sure all the Cybertronians have PTSD at this point, which I guess makes sense given how long their war has been going on for.
@@Greenkitten45
That is true
Idw starscream is pretty interesting with his relationship with Megatron and the ghost of bumblebee
You know Starscream kills his political rival in that
@billy boberson he owns up to all his actions in the till all are one annual
He even gave up his position of power and gave it to Windblade, regretting everything wrong he had done to others. He lived an a-hole, but died a regretful man.
@Francisco Lozano True. I wished they could have given him proper redemption arc, similar to megatron’s from MTMTE. But that was partially due to the IDW run ending phase 2 of the transformers universe way too abruptly. Had it continued, IDW Starscream would have been one of my favourite incarnations of his character.
ghost of who now?
Starscream sparing Arcee didn't make them even. Recall that Arcee would've killed him had Bumblebee not intervened, yet Starscream later spared her even though there would've been zero consequences had he chosen not to.
I love it because Screamer displayed superior morality to Arcee in that scene. Hell, Starscream displayed superior morality to most of the autobots with this scene, save for Optimus and BB.
Exactly~
That was NOT Arcee!!! Arcee is a well trained autobot soldier! She would NEVER act so retarded to fall for such a trap!!! After all that character development and fights with Airachnid she got in Season 1, she WOULD be thinking things through!!! She's not like Miko who always goes looking for trouble!!! She may not be perfect, but she will learn from previous mistakes!What we saw in that cocoon was a shameless clone that is clearly a retarded poor man's version of Arcee!!! Damn you to hell Isenfuck!!!!!! 🔥
@@vivimariefedorov7374 People can make mistakes. We know that Arcee always wanted revenge because Airachnid killed Tailgate. It's not that much of a stretch to think that she would fall into a trap while having tunnel vision. It's the same reason Optimus didn't let Arcee come along to the Harbinger because Airachnid would be there. Arcee risks missions and safety whenever Airachnid is involved so precautions must be taken. They weren't, and we got cocoon Arcee.
Bumblebee didn't really intervine. I would say they weren't even because of the whole partner killing.
Starscream did kill Cliffjumper who was Arcee's partner. They escaped together from Cybertron, there was some kind of relationship going on between Arcee and Cliffjumper. And Cliffjumper is captured and later killed by Starscream. And he get stabbed with dark energon. And gets killed again. For Arcee to see his decapitated "zombified" body... wouldn't it make her mad for revenge? Starscream was a coward and at the start of the series he wanted to be the leader of the decepticons. He was always trying to plot against either Autobots or Megatron. He later conspired against Shockwave. He left him stranded with the predacon clones when Autobots attacked.
Starscream was also incompetent. He let Wheeljack escape so many times. He lost the armour to Smokescreen. Arcee and Cliffjumper escaped from his custody. Meko beat the hell out of him. He lost his t-cog to mech. Also he ordered Knockout to inject dark energon to Sylus which led mass wipe out of the decepticon army.
It's not he didn't believe in the decepticon cause, he was just terribly incompetent. When better, more competent cons arrived, they just sidelined him. Just the way Shockwave sidelined Knockout and Starscream.
Starsream had incompetence and cowardice.
Playing Devil's Advocate on behalf of the predacons here
If I had to guess, I'd say Predacons might have some kind of inherent "Might makes right" mentality. They're apex predators in an ecosystem that no longer suits them, so their entire focus might be hardwired for survival at all costs. As a result of this, Predaking's experiences as he began to become more than just a beast framed his interpretation of the way the world worked. He'd listen to Shockwave and Megatron because both were smarter and potentially stronger than him despite him being larger; essentially recognizing both as potential "Alphas". Starscream however gives off no such aura of authority, not in terms of intellect or power. I'm not saying Screamer is dumb; but Predaking's only interactions with him are Screamer insulting him, attacking him (even if said attack was more of an annoyance than anything) and constantly underestimating and talking down to him. You don't walk up to something twice your size and has shown to have a poor disposition at the best of times, and start insulting it; especially if said entity gives you a lot of evidence that it finds this distasteful. Looking at it from an animal's perspective, behavior like that would warrant the thing being wiped out. It's like how Zebras will do nothing to help members of the herd that are brought down by a lion.
As for thinking Predaking is a racist; I think it might be more about him literally having nothing else. He was "born" in a lab, had no experiences with his own kind, and is only brought to Earth to be a hunting dog. Then he discovers that info terminal and begins to research his lineage, potentially helping to awaken more of his sentience as he goes. He admires his ancestors because, really; what else does he have to feel any kinship with, any pride in? He didn't choose to be a Decepticon, he wasn't inspired by Megatron's rise from the arena, he has no reason to really care about Cybertron beyond it being his ancestral home. Pride at being a Predacon, the 1st Predacon in eons, and the strongest among them is all he can really claim for himself. Given his limited experiences to draw on; he might only have been able to see the differences between himself and other bots, and since so many were afraid of him, smaller than him, he decided they were also weaker than him. If I'm at all correct about that might=right mindset; it's not hard to imagine him linking the same power he has to all Predacons (past and future) and thus seeing anything that isn't a Predacon as less than him. A simplistic mindset; but one that would fit what we saw of Predaking in the series.
Nice analysis mate! I'm not a die hard Starscream fan, since actually I love Predacons and the entire concept of them. If they weren't in Transformers Prime, I don't think I would like the show nearly as much! Gosh, it's so interesting to have different races trying to live together. This is why I love other concepts like Zootopia and Beastars
Most of those what ya said here are correct except that Megatron and Shockwave were potentially stronger than PK. That's definitely incorrect
@@electraxd9929 I agree, but for this I'll have to say that Predacons are social creatures it seems. They Measure out their "pack" and then try to fit in or dominate. Although they were raised By Decepticons, some of it has to be nature as it's consistent with all 3. Megatron was obviously the "alpha" and shockwave was seemingly #2 amongst Decepticons for Predaking. As for the other 2, Shockwave was #1 and Starscream was #2. It seems like they all respect Shockwave as a creator though.
@@blazingknight1276 A whole paragraph of justification but that proves nothing... Predaking is the strongest and there's definitely no denying. It would be safe to say that he would take down all 3 of these combined. Mate don't overcomplicate simple things. This is the reason why I don't like Emperor Kumquat when they are the probably the only content creator for TP
Starscream certainly isn't dumb or incompetent.I mean, if i 100% remember correctly, in one of the Branches of the Transformer's Franchise, after the civil war, when Starscream became one of Cybertrons leading Senators/Council Member's, he legit creater one of the, if not The *Greatest* Government's in the History of Cybertron.
Wow... This is really mature, intelligent, & professional. Very impressive! I've actually thought about some of those scenes with Starscream as well, especially when he'd let Arcee go & definitely the episode with the zombies. He certainly is an intriguing character, that's for sure. So glad to have watched the whole video. Wonderful analysis! 👌
Starscream and a few other characters have truly shined in that garbage dump of an episode! It was impressive how he rescued that brainless two wheeler clone Isenberg calls Arcee!
@@vivimariefedorov7374 - Garbage dump? Brainless two-wheeler clone? Umm... I'm sorry, but what? ._.
Crossfire! That crappy episode that portrayed Arcee as a dumbass in dustress!
@@vivimariefedorov7374 I liked crossfire but yeah Arcee was an idiot, they never explained how the insecticons arrived on earth or why and Breakdown die
Starscreams character reminds me a lot of Loki and I'm not sure how I feel about it.
He IS known as baby's first Loki, but I prefer him more.
Well given how he's apparently based on Leige Maximo, who looks and behaves similar to Loki, not too shocking
@@uberkirbeeh7954 ....
@@ProtossTempest he ain't based on anything the cowardly characters are not too tbh
@@absoluteecho6152 What?
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Cliffjumper: Yup that's me and if you're probably wondering how I got up in this situation...
Cliffjumper’s death was sad af ;-;
NEMESIS PRODUCTIONS well it all started in the summer of ‘83
@@Jethammer117 I'm guessing that's when his character was first scene?
that made me feel all kindsa emotions lol. When I started the series, with my previous knowledge and stuff of Transformers (specifically the g1 show) Cliffjumper was my second favorite character and so it hurt to see my favorite character straight up kill im.
though tbf, i knew Cliffjumper would die (just not that early)
poor guy dies every time v_v
@@brendathevehicon I still feel bad for his death
Great analysis. Starscream is a pretty complicated character in this series, wrapped up in what he wants, abuse, the war, and what he wants others to think of him.
I would have loved to see starscream briefly or even permanently be an autobot. It would have been a huge twist. I felt like Bumblebee when he saw Arcee attacking Starscream.
Maybe have him bond with that one FBI agent. Make him fail the autobots and cower and beg Optimus for mercy only to have Optimus say: "we all make mistakes Starscream." And have Starscream confused and shocked by what Optimus did.
But hey, that's just my opinion.
Makes me wonder if there are any fan written story that attempt to do something along those lines.
@@sulphurous2656 samee
I would actually like to see that. I've noticed in some fanfics that that idea is played around with. Having a Decepticon or two join the Autobots and being able to see the stark difference between how Optimus deals with them and how they were treated by Megatron would be cool to see.
They already did that in Armada sorta.
There actually is a story on Fanfiction.net called the Good, the Bad, and the Starscream, a Transformers Prime fanfic where he joins the Autobots (due to actually keeping his big mouth shut on Cliffjumper) and has a lot of character development. Sadly, it seems to have been dropped, though it does get to Season 3 at least.
Soundwave is Soundwave,
Ah another Soundwave fan here...
At this point Megatron is probably a Soundwave fan too.
soundwave: superior
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I think he was always a Soundwave fan, much like how Soundwave is a fan of Megatron too.
I love Soundwave too. He's one of a kind and as Ratchet put it, "Not like any other Cybertronian inside or out."
Soundwave Superior
Everyone Else Inferior
I always loved the Decepticons most. I can even feel empathy for Megatron, because he started his faction for good reasons. Starscream has been a favorite of my for a while. Love the video!
Yes. Megatron started the Deception faction out of good intent because he wanted to get rid of the caste system on Cybertron, but then over time he slowly became a corrupt leader.
Yeah. I actually quite like Megatron, at least to some degree. Is he a good person? hell no, heeeecckkkk to the no. He's an awful trash man. But is he an interesting, fun character? yeah 🌟
Agreed.
I love this analysis of Starscream. He really is a broken individual in need of a chance to redeem himself - a real chance.
I keep thinking about what he says to Bumblebee in Robots in Disguise when he tells him about the minicons. He wants the power they can give him, "so that [he] can repay Megatron for all he did to [him]". To me, that statement came from a place of hurt and resentment. There's been no retribution or redemption for Starscream. It would be interesting to see what would have happened if Starscream could have been rehabilitated, so to speak. Possibly by Optimus Prime. I wonder if a true redemption arc will ever be given to him. He's such a complex and endearing character, yet a lot of the possibilities for him are overlooked, ignored, or untouched.
He really is such a deep character. It's rare to see a character with the mindset that he has. He puts up with all the abuse and even thinks he deserves it. He is stuck in the situation where he feels he must stay with the Decepticons for energon, medical attention, and an actual home even though it's a abusive unhealthy environment. He is abused physical and mentally and he is just so hungry for attention and approval, sometimes it really shows how is soul is just so broken and he is mentally a slave to the abusive Megatron. He's such a broken bot and that's what makes me love him. I struggle with depression, anxiety, and mental and emotional abuse from my dad who I don't have a choice to visit or not so I have alot of empathy for a character like Starscream. You said (and I'm sure you just meant it as a question that viewers may ask as you were pretty clear that, no, he doesn't) "does he deserve any of his abuse?" Of course not!! No one deserves to be abused. I think he deserves to be punished meaning put on jail for a time or demoted but I also think most, if not everything, he does, he just does to try to get approval & attention from Megatron. I do think, if he were properly shown love, he could fully turn good. No one deserves to be abused ever. Anyways I really love Prime Starscream and this was an absolutely amazing analysis. Your videos are always so thorough and well made. I really enjoy watching your videos and I'm sure once I run out of new ones I'll just go back and watch your other videos as they are just so relaxing and enjoyable. Thank you so much!!
I am going to make another video, a more in-depth explanation especially now that I have a microphone and can do better quality. I want to explain how exactly Megatron is able to control Starscream, and how he ends up becoming loyal and attached to Megatron. It is pretty disturbing how Starscream does not leave no matter what things happen to him. What many people don't understand is how freaked out WE would be if any one of these things happened to us (Shockwave almost impaling his face/eye). Yet Starscream has even recommended (in Patch) that Megatron beat him, anything just to not be terminated. And this is not just us fans making up things- Fowler in the show was even aware, and he described Starscream to another person as being insecure, torn between taking Megatron's job and getting his approval. In season 3, Starscream does so much for attention, and his bad behaviour comes from that. He is almost scavenging for care, pushing no matter how everyone else treats him
@@emperorkumquat yeah he's such a tragic character but I really appreciate the writing and how they show him. He is just such a sweet character but it's so sad how he is treated and how his mind has been so screwed over by Megatron 😔
What seems interesting is that Starscream's sense of honor is a much more acceptable compromise between "warrior honor" that ammounts to be unpragmatic but not precisely "heartless bastard".
In a fight he fights dirty to survive because when lives are at stake, a lot of chances cannot be taken; he's constantly uses tricks to get the upper hand, as if other autobots and decepticons hans't done the same against him; is called a coward for running away, assuming getting himself as well as entire squadrons obliterated being a more is preferable (spoiler alert: anyone with a brain aknowledges total anihilation for you and your cause is a terrible idea).
Starscream's honor is pragmatic but ironically honest, he repays kindness, doesn't arbitrarily kills his own troops nor let them to die senselessly, always chooses bargains and talks before violence, has focused goals like gathering energon without missing his head on the idea of Cybertron's survival rather than openly engaging and so on.
He's honorable, he just simply not honorably stupid.
"No spark born of primus is born evil."
Airachnid: hold my energon.
Seriously, airachnid is genuinely evil. She has all the hallmarks of psychopathy and is even more sadistic than starscream.
I mean, except for that ONE time where she showed concern about the vehicons being affected by dark energon.
Edit: while it can be argued that starscream has some traits of psychopathy, what separates starscream from airachnid is that starscreams sadism is more goal-directed as opposed to airachnid who literally kills autobots and even organics because she takes great joy in doing so.
She reminds me of Azula, ppl will argue that she was raised in diff. conditions but still.
@@noterenyega9158 azula and airachnid are not at all alike. Azulas cruelty and manipulation is primarily goal directed. She has a motive to do the things she does. Whereas airachnid is a true psychopath she kills for kicks and is cruel simply for the sake of it as she has clearly demonstrated.
That and cybertronians don't have childhoods they are forged as adults and are functionally immortal until they are killed.
Airachnid was a murdering psychopath while Starscream was just a narcissist.
@@hellstrom4209 with sadistic tendencies and a habit of repaying shown gratitude
You DO realize that most psychopaths are not sadists, right? They just don't empathize with others. Sadism is just a personality trait...
He's definitely my favorite from TFP, and one of my all-time favorite characters in general. He's definitely a case where, he just needs a hug...
I'm extremely thankful that in IDW1, they did acknowledge Megatron's abuse toward Starscream
They acknowledged that Starscream was an abuse victim and he needed help
As well as that he is capable of change when given the chance
And like his Prime counterpart, Starscream wanted to make Cybertron a great place to live and he was willing to do anything
In the end, he was a true hero to not only his own race, but to many others as well
Yeah, I personally figure that the hate on Starscream was unjust as well, especially when it comes to his apparent "uselessness". In case no one ever noticed, Starscream was always "that one guy", the odd one out that always gave Megatron a reason to stay on his toes, maybe not because of Starscream himself, but from other things that he may cause down the line, yet ALMOST always, such things weren't something that they couldn't live through. Practically forced active training, if you think about it, and that sort of hidden benefit is something that's always piqued my interest.
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To be fair with Predaking, he has no idea how things work. The only rule he knows are dominance among others, which are Predacon instincts. They existed in prehistoric Cybertron.
This made me rethink about my toughts about Starscream. I saw him as a total shitlord when I was younger. Some real people do try to look tough and scary to make them be safe towards those who hurt them but benefits safety with an army and amount of gun power. Hm. This just made me want to go watch transformers prime again and again and again 😂
One may say that Starscream is a victim of Megatron “peace through tyranny” Meg is more entitled then Prediking. PK has a alpha predator mentality, While Meg is a megalomaniac who does not care who gets hurt be it Autobot or con as long as he has power. It took Unicron to give him a taste of his own medicine to get Meg to change.
Right !! Remember that scene when he threw a decepticon who was actually a car and not a plane....
While Starscream is a narcissist who like to be the center of attention and be the big boss. He constantly brags about killing a wounded prisoner(which is a war crime) and got super jealous when he had to share the rank of first lieutenant with Shockwave. He even abuses his own soldiers more than Megatron would've. He used the energon harvester on a trooper for no reason and slapped another that was trying to fix the ship's cloaking system. And the fact that his clone tried to betray him really shows how greedy he is since he can't even be equal with himself.
@@hellstrom4209 and they say he isn't evil lol...RUclipsrs can present anything for content
That honestly makes Unicron more terrifying in context. Megatron was already severely oppressed, along with so many others, by the Caste System, and yet what Unicron did to him was literally *worse.*
All because Megatron recklessly stabbed himself with Dark Energon.
So in a way, Megatron defeated himself.
It worths nothing it's clear from the get go Starscream is not properly made nor trained to handle the predacons at all.
He's obviously scared and tries to talk his way out to not avail, and Starscream is a good commander, just not a beast master, but no, they had to let him the job of getting Predaking inside despite the fact they know predacons are rather hard nosed by nature and way bigger than him, and Starscream's nervousness that he seems to be rather self-aware about makes him even worse at a job that requires a cold blood and physical strenght, something the conniving and more brash yet calculative Starscream is not really suited for.
Anyone who dislike animals personally but are not malicious about it would have some sympathy for the character, specially since those animals are dangerous. Starscream is shocking him is because if not Predaking, then he would get Megatron's wrath, essentially a lose-lose situation.
It makes sense that the Predcons have such an ego-centric view of things. They're a very young, primal species. As shown with Predaking's interaction with Ratchet, they're not quite at the stage where they utilise more complex thinking. Starscream = pain therefore he is bad. Autobots = death therefore they are bad. This is why Predaking rules as he does, because if he didn't what he does to others would be done to him. They don't realise its a self-fulfilling circle yet, that this is only the case because they make it so. Thus they're not likely to see anything from Starscream or anyone else's perspective, simply because they haven't developed that skill yet. Predaking starts to develop it after Ratchet teaches him, but he still hasn't gotten that far. In terms of the brutality of the Predacons, that too is simply due to their youth as a species. The way Darksteel and Skylynx decimate Smokescreen and Ultra Magnus is shocking to lifeforms who live in a more advanced age, but for them that's just how it is. It's not strictly an exercise in sadism, but rather them just doing all they know. They're still very in tune with their instincts, and their instincts tell them that if they don't do this to others, it will happen to them. I don't think Predaking's view of other Cybertronian races is driven by racist views per sey, but rather just an extension of this mindset, to a degree. I mean, it is pretty much a fact; there are very few Autobots or Decepticons who could match a Predacon, let alone Predaking himself. It took a God empowered bot who was already pretty strong to beat him.
I always took his line of "I'll never bow to you Prime." as an expression of anger regarding the destruction of his brothers, which he thought Prime was responsible for at the time, rather than because he sees him as an inferior being. He accepted Megatron very quickly, despite being more than capable of beating the crap out of him just as much as Optimus.
It runs as a strong parallel to the Decepticons. Megatron's way of running things is extremely unhealthy and counterproductive. Starscream's worse aspects flourish because if they didn't then he'd be abandoned or worse, however its because of those aspects that he fails. Knockout also directly addresses this when he says to Optimus "I never reallly had any good role models." It makes Optimus' words to Megatron in the prequel novels even more powerful "There are gladiators now that see you the way you saw the council." Megatron doesn't care about anyone under his command, he only cares about what they can offer him. He's become so wrapped up in the conflict and his ideals that he doesn't see any distinction between himself and those said ideals or the Decepticons as a whole. This is an interesting difference between the Prime Megatron and G1 Megatron, who for all his faults always referred to the Decepticons as something separate from himself, "I do what I do now for the sake of my Decepticons." I'd even go so far as to say Soundwave is the only exception to this. And even then, it's dubious.
Many of the Decepticons and Predacons absolutely have the potential to be better. In the small amount of time they spend around better influences their behaviour changes, sometimes subtly, sometimes noticeably. Starscream's sadism isn't actually that strong to be honest. At the very least it doesn't exceed any of his comrade's levels of sadistic behaviour. And though he expresses disdain for humans, it's interesting to note just how quickly that disdain falls away when he actually gets to interact with some of them. It's unfortunate he ended up with Mech though. Imagine how he'd be if he'd met a human who shared his love of flying. We always saw Agent Fowler in a jet. I could totally see him becoming Starscream's human partner. With the fact Starscream once tortured him being used for banter or comic relief, or light-hearted guilt tripping when Fowler wants something lol. I would hazard a guess his view on organics is mostly down to how Megatron sees them (and other people in general for that matter). How he's been told to see them. All in all Starscream is a socialite who is literally the "just wants to be loved" trope. Unfortunately thanks to the individuals around him, he doesn't know (or has forgotten) how to earn that love in healthy, non-toxic ways.
Like Breakdown I think it's one of the shows major flaws that Starscream didn't join the Autobots. That has, to my knowledge, never been done before in any continuity. And not just as a means of espionage, but fully joining them and upholding their cause. That would have cut him out of the later Season 3 parts where he's much less impressive. From a narrative standpoint, there was no reason why Shockwave couldn't have taken his place. It would have also been an interesting development, to have had two Decepticons abandon Megatron because his ways function so poorly, only to have them replaced with two even bigger, greater threats; Shockwave and Predaking. I understand why they didn't go in this direction, but I do feel it would have been more rewarding to have done so.
Well, that turned out longer than I intended haha. Good job on this video, it's very thought provoking. I knew Starscream always had the capability to be more, but I didn't realise just how deep that ran until I watched this and your prequel novel videos. Makes me even more annoyed at what they did with him in RiD. Though his 180 change in attitude towards Megatron makes a lot of sense in retrospect.
Spot on I agree with your analogues
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Yeah, I mean Transformers Prime did a good job in showing a lot of gray areas concerning the Autobot and Decepticon factions. It has always either one side or this other, or Autobots = good and Decepticons = bad. Transformers Prime did a good job introducing new concepts and showing the many sides of morality and reasons why the characters do the stuff they do. They had Decepticons assist the Autobots and vice versa but I do wish they had taken it a step further and actually made a Decepticon or an Autobot switch sides. Dreadwing would've been the PERFECT candidate for this. I HATE what happened to him! At least he could have went neutral.
He didn't mean to hurt anyone
I love how you describe soundwave’s usefulness to Megatron as just because he’s soundwave🤣 so true
I've always felt hes been a rather pathetic and character but I've never taken the time to take a step back and realized just how he Is treated by megatron In all of them in Transformers 2 revenge of the fallen he steps on star screen and uses his tank track to grind him into the ground There's just one example hes always been rough with him that's why I see him as such a coward but at the end of the day he is a good Warrior
Thx
@@g1starscream01. hahaha no problem Sorry about your head getting shot off and one of the last movies I did give you a heads up though
@@maximumrpm1868 wow u gonna play me like that. Stepping out of my character in all honesty starscream did really go out stupidly in TF DOTM. Literally had rockets and machine guns but no "I'm going to kick you" I really wished they would have readded him because megatron died 3 times and came back. I died once and only came back as a head
@@g1starscream01. ya. I can agree famous last words I'm going to kick you Well when it comes to the score you are always a head
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Gotta hand it to junkheap for fixing your head though.
*BUT THE FINAL REASON OF WHY HIS REPRESENTATION IS PERFECT:*
*_-HIS HIGH HEELS & HIS HIPS CURVED_*
*_-STEVE BLUM PERFORMANCE_*
I am genuinely sad that Starscream turned out this way. I remember wishing wholeheartedly that the autobots would accept him.
My take on Starscream is that honestly? He’s probably one of the smartest bots there. But he can’t bring himself to act upon his ideas because he is constantly broken, abused, and generally tormented and bullied by everyone around him. And I don’t care if you’re evil or generally a bad person, no one deserves physical abuse like the shit Starscream goes through.
He’s really, really traumatized, and I think that’s the most relatable part about him. He knows his own role in the story, is to inevitably lose, but he’s trying to just be the winner for once in his life. To be good at something, anything.
And he’s also definitely gay but I love him so much it hurts.
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You're gonna tell me that scene with Knockout didn't have any sexual tension in it? To be fair, everybody's gay for Knockout.
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You can't run from fax Screamer! >:)
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Lol, are you really this triggered over memes?
Astroblaze the Reality Traverser I believe that he his living his persona of Starscream.
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I don't know what slash is, but I can't believe you got baited so damn hard. Stop embarrassing yourself over nothing, lmao
Starscream has always be a favorite bot of mine. The fact that even his own clones hate him in a series shows just how much he needs a friend. He's lonely, he's doing everything he can to survive... and all he needs is a chance and some time to warm up to someone. He'd be a pretty good friend.. a but rough, but still. And if he has the immortal spark... it just means his lonelyness will be prolonged.
😢 I feel sorry for him!
In most iterations of Stars Starscream, he's actually depicted as a character that could change, if given the chance. A great example is Transformers Armada. He actually acts as a kind of anti-hero and occasionally an actual autobot. Heck, he sacrifices himself to convince Megatron to team up with Prime to take on Unicron.
Thanks for making this!
I want to add that I always thought Starscream, Breakdown, and Dreadwing shared some traits. This includes that they know to give some form of kindness back when given, like with their interactions with the Autobots, and that they have the potential to change. Also I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that Starscream staggered and was legitametly sad when Megatron 'died', when he didn't have to. In Season 3 he tried as much as he can to please Megatron to get back to his rank. From their point of view, Megatron was dead, there was no reason for him to act up and pretend he cared, but he did.
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7:01 and few seconds before ,Starscream is like a cornered animal scared but angry
I honestly love how you keep your tone very soft and calm and almost unfazed. Like your tone doesn't seem to change its attitude or energy.
Oh my... i love this video. Great job! Now i have more perspectives about Starscream. I really want to hug him and give him all kindness :"
This is exactly what I would say about Starscream. Despite his personality he is my favourite character.
why do i feel like starscream all my life :( even more so lately
I feel, man. Probably the reason we all love Starscream. 'Cause we know what it's like.
Same here
I always knew Starscream is just lost... he was never evil... He was just scared and lost. Sometimes when Starscream was bitten up by Megatron, I was pausing the episode and go to calm myself... I felt sorry for him, that he had to even risk his life, just to be saved... He got really stressed because he had no free time, as he had to always think or do something to keep hiself safe & don't die, even if he usually got hard beaten after it...
I remember the scene where after getting REALLY hurt by Megatron, he gone away, ignoring Knockout telling him to stay, rest and heal... He still go away saying, that "He's fine"... (I literally almost shout at my laptop, that he have to stay and heal, when I was first watching that episode... =w= )
I don't give a damn about knockout🤬
@@SarahGambill-sl9dl er, plz no hate on anyone nor any character here... It's unnessesary & sounds mean
9:16 soundwave is soundwave xD
Love his character and how he is badass at times
I still have to lean to evil when I think of this Starscream, though a bit loose. He had the capability to change and become a better person, reflecting and ultimately coming to terms with who he is, was and who he wanted to be. The 'ends justify the means' argument is a hard pill to swallow. Because you have a very, very good reason for what you did which makes perfect sense for someone in your situation and background, that does not really erase the nature of the act itself. It's a situation where pretty much no one was in the right. Starscream should not have been treated as he had by either side of the show nor should he had intended to doom billions of innocent lives. In the end it all sort of just rounds out to everyone needing some good faceslapping.
Every Starscream fan I've ever met: "I can fix him..."
Jokes aside, ever since Armada, Starscream has been portrayed with far more nuance and as a more tragic, and in my opinion, interesting character. There are so many times that it looks like he misses opportunities to change with just unfortunate timing. He holds a lot more potential than being an Abuse is Comedy trope. And in most incarnations, he just wants to be appreciated and respected.
You touched on points regarding gun why Starscream is the way he is that I think few people are aware of, and it felt so satisfying to hear someone bring them up. If I could, I’d shake your hand and say, “You. You get Starscream.” Thank you for this.
I really wish Starscream got a redemption arc in this series.
You know, it actually bothers me that Megatron was given a redemption arc, but not Starscream. Starscream's evil is a result of his self-preservation. Crazy as it may sound, I think that if Optimus Prime had been able to reach Starscream, he could have been redeemed.
Starscream is not evil 😠
Yeah it was a missed opportunity, 😕 even in the sequel series they had a chance to do a redemption because of the whole dark star saber rejecting the evil in him, but instead in both series they chose to make him an evil person towards the end and then he ended up in a possibly permanent coma
@@ishashifar what do you mean by because of the whole dark star saber rejecting the evil in him? I don't know anything like that in prime series
Deam I truly feel starscreem pain, thank you for making me understand this character. No one should be treated that badly and everyone deserves more chances of proving them self’s, this last part is for real life.
This really made me sad, Starscream is such a sad character, he has no friends, he's constantly abused, and the reason he is coward and afraid of dying is because of his PTSD.
You spitting straight facts. someone finally recognizes Starscream trauma and confusion
To be fair, when watching G1 Transformers, I always saw him an an opportunistic coward with delusions of grandeur . . . but perhaps, he was the abused child who suffers from Personality Disorder. He probably does want things to improve, but because of all the abuse and neglect, not to mention being in Megatron's shadow, he's craving attention, approval, and acknowledgement of his existence. Looking at his plans, a lot of them are solid in concept, with a huge payoff if they work . . . but, the bigger, more complex the plan, the more than can go wrong. In a way, that kinda makes him like Marvel's Loki, disillusioned by upbringing in the shadow of others' achievements. A Naruto story of sorts, but if Naruto had gone rogue, or joined a rogue nation.
I see Prime Starscream as more Megalomaniac than evil, he is simply amoral and power-hungry, he doesn't care about petty conflicts only ones that would affect his appearance.
I always wondered if he was truly sincere about joining the autobots and I wonder how the show would have played out if he had... When I saw it for the first time I thought he would, like in the show Armada. But my dreams were crushed :(
I starscream for getting his redemption and becoming autobot again ☺😢
😢I'm sad about him too!
Probably genuine. Granted maybe not inherently heroic, what he wanted was to escape from Megatron's abuse more than anything and only went back because being alone left him unfed and unprotected.
But considering how desperate he was then, and under the idea that he can return the good you give to him, it is likely he really would have joined the autobots if not for accidentally blurting Cliffjumper's death.
Ever since the episode 'Partners' I've always been left wondering what things could have looked like had Starscream committed to defecting towards the Autobots. I think it could have made for a very interesting alternate timeline.
Starscream is a pretty good character there is more to him than meets the eye . He did everything any being would do to survive acting on his instinct when he was banished. He wasn't accepted by the Autobots since he carried a deception symbol . He was born of nobility and Megatron was a slave which indicated Megatron s pleasure of beating him. Starscream was a mentally vulnerable character who needed care and respect and attention he was just a poor loner whom none understood
@@BasedVegeta yep, thanks for correcting me
Ok who are you faker the real prime would care what symbol he was wearing a paint job can be changed
@@cupcakeprime559 I am Optimus Prime....leader of Autobots.....however it doesn't matter whether we are actually a Prime each one of us has an unique quality that makes us eligible to be a Prime there is more to us than meets the eye
@@cupcakeprime559 I am Optimus prime leader of Autobots and I will be an Autobot from my heart also symbols don't matter even a deception can be an Autobot it only depends on our choices
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Now I'm intrigued. I wish to make a character similar to Starscream. With the difference that he learns and regains confidence over time and stands his ground.
Do it
This arc of a 'redeemed' Starscream was looked at in Armarda. It didn't last long but it kind of proves that he is fully capable of changing his life trajectory.
The very fact that he is so selfish and self-centered, even if it costs other's lives to preserve one's own; this makes him evil, this is what evil IS. His cowering and cowardice is what makes him an a$$hat. What makes one Good is one's willingness to be self-LESS, and would give up his own freedom for another... even give his own life so that others could survive.
Anyone who would backstab his leader just to usurp power is evil.
This whole video is just bad comedy 😂 starscream isn’t evil? He betrayed zeta prime just so he wouldn’t die he betrayed jetfire he betrayed megatron multiple times even tossing him off the ship instead of helping him and people are saying starscream isn’t evil? What kinda world are we living in?
Doesn't this all come down to how one defines evil? Starscream commits a fair bit of it by some definitions.
_'Evil is an action taken that puts those around you in a state of tribulation.'_
Optimus saving him in RID was one of the only good things the auto bots did to him other the healing his wounds in prime
There's a movie called "A Silent Voice" and it really made me question what people deserve. Things are almost never black and white. Looking back and examining the motivations of what were villains to me as a child has been enlightening. I'm glad the writers were able to flesh out the story of a kids cartoon with some actual depth.
..now if only Disney could hire writers that good..
Also notice how starscreams behavior changes as soon as predaking shows intelligence and transformation
Can we have a video like this about megatron? I really enjoyed the journey he made trough the story. They really turned the guy who screamed retreat at everything into a genuinely terrifying antagonist.
28:40 hit me hard. Starscream has always been my favorite decepticon.
As someone who grew up in a toxic, maniupulative environment, full of verbal abuse and physical, as well as people pleased to get praised due to not getting any for most of my early childhood life, the fact that he is friendly and talkative when he feels safe is too relatable. That feeling of not being in survival/fight or flight mode is SUCH a good feeling when you finally get peace around people you trust.
Apart from the torture of others to get approval, I did whatever I could to get it even if it wasnt the best for me in the longrun. My talents and real capabilites were overshadowed by my own family who was jealous of my bright light and happiness and only wanted to control me 100%. I have had MANY instances where my PTSD from childhood makes loud noises, unsafe environments, my anxiety, and fight or flight makes me jittery, jumpy and have the need to protect myself. Also trouble with making and keeping friends and sharing emotions to the few close friends is hard.(Theres much more, but thats the bases of what implecations this has for a character like Starscream. Im healing now and getting away from that, which shows he would also be capable of doing so with the right support.)
So you can see how accurate Starscream's reactions and actions are to someone who has faced abuse (mentally and physically), has tramua and PTSD, people pleasing tendacies and alot of anxieties due to war and that abuse. Starscream is just yet another tragic character of war, and shows how much both war and post-war can harm someones mind, whether universal or in their own direct circles.
Ive never been pro-autobot or pro-decepticon, due to the fact both have done wrong to gain, even if good intentions were once present. But I have gained respect and favor for few characters who, if Cybertronians were to truely understand the scope of mental health and war, they would utimately have a better live for themselves.
If Transformers Prime hadnt had such a messy production and been cut short so early by coporate fools needing money, we couldve very well seen Starscream turn over to the Autobots, heal, and perhaps have a happy ending that lasts, and not with him killed. Maybe someday...
I honestly believe if Knockout Starscream and Breakdown had all realised the benefits of being the autobots and known they would still have had each others friendship they would have changed
There's no friendship between starscream, knockout and breakdown👎👎
Thank you for the entirely new perspective on his character
I never thought the day would come. I actually feel bad for Starscream.
But it's so hard to trust him. He's Starscream!
Starscream is the type of person who acts respectful to the teachers, but is a jerk to everyone else.
really neat points! I highly enjoyed this
thank you!
39:00 that conclusion was a "drop the mic" one
Plus the music at the end really fits
Now (as I am older) I când sympathyies with starscrem
Great analysis 👍
Hi! A few things I’d like to share: I randomly stumbled upon this video a few days ago. As a fellow Starscream fangirl, I agree with everything you said in this video. I read your description and seen you had a link to a fanfiction you written. As a Starscream fangirl and a BIG reader of fanfics, I had to read it! And, oh my Primus... IT WAS WONDERFUL!!! It took me about two days to get through it but I was smiling the whole time! A few points I was on the verge of tears (won’t spoil when for others who read this comment but you will know the parts). It was written beautifully and believably and true to the characters. MY POOR SCREAMER DON’T DESERVE THAT! Wait, OH HELL YES, HE’S GETTING HIS REVENGE! Ooh, the Megatron and Shockwave scene was delicious!! Oh no, Shockwave, what have you done?!? Is he about to...?! YAS STARSCREAM IS FREE! Fuck, Airachnid is back? NO NO NO! *and they lived happily ever after while attending a car race with Doc Knock* I’m sorry for rambling but *TLDR:* “Shattered Silence” was one of the best fics I’ve ever read. Thank you so much for keeping a smile plastered on my face this past two days ☺️
PS: And you’re also a great artist on deviantart?? I seen the Starscream/Predaking picture you made, and it is sad, heartbreaking but great work! You are apparently very talented. Do you have a twitter?
@@bumblebee4me4ever Oh my goodness, thank you for everything! And I'm not so good of an artist yet, but it is so nice to have your support as I get better! No Twitter, just Tumblr, RUclips, Deviantart, and Fanfiction.net
@@BasedVegeta Yes! I have two story ideas that I am planning. I posted some information on my profile on fanfiction.net. Both of them are much more adventurous and humorous, of course with serious moments, but not like the other fics where I straight up murdered Starscream and his friends.
As I work on timelines mentally, I am spending some time improving my art.
Whoa, t'is an honour that Dank Starscream is a follower of mine!
@@BasedVegeta Thanks a lot. Yes, there are basically no Transformers stories out there that are not sexual in some way. It clashes head on with the asexual canon. I would never write slash because I like to set up my stories as things that could happen in the same timeline as tfp. And I try to keep looseness in my writing instead of forcing characters to do what I want. When starting a scene, I think things like "how would this character react?" and then follow that truthfully. It leads to surprising new scenes for me, but the results feel right.
Emperor Kumquat You’re very welcome! If you ever decide to post more stories I’ll definitely read them! Also, I run a twitter account in which I link some of my favorite fanfics I stumble upon. I run it in hopes of bringing attention to those great pieces of work but I don’t have many followers yet 😕 I bring this up because here’s your tweet! twitter.com/kotafanficsrecs/status/1226993977850826754?s=21 ❤️
Is Starscream evil? Absolutely yes, considering the lows he'll easily dive down to if it means progressing his or the Decepticon's goals and his incredibly selfish, self-serving nature.
Starscream is a character who was treated like shit over and over again, but fact of the matter is each time it happened he brought it on himself, from joining the Decepticons in the first place to his various actions over the series. The minute he had the chance he immediately tried to kill his leader, and were it not for Soundwave and other outside factors would've finished the job right on board the Nemesis. The resulting beating and subsequent ones were just karma coming back in full force.
You get a cookie.
Hi, just curious, what is your opinion on Megatron then?
@@emperorkumquat Tyrannical and pretty much diabolical being whose sudden turn towards good at the end of series made absolutely no sense.
The Decepticon cause may have started out with good intentions but he quickly twisted it into something far darker due to his lust for power, and in every situation in the series was quite clearly in the wrong.
Megatron was harsh and abusive towards Starscream, even when it wasn't earned, but just because he was evil doesn't mean Starscream wasn't either. Both were bad and wrong in their actions, and both arguably deserved a far worse end for the blood on their hands.
@@DrMostlySane I like your consistency. I guess we just won't agree, however, since even I have empathy for Megatron. I think there are always at least these two sides when we look at the antagonists in shows/movies/books. Of course many are going to agree with you, and you can expect quite a few likes.
Now I know I am boring and need voice work, but did you happen to watch the whole video? I'm only wondering about all the naysayers here, if they only came because of the title to put in their opinion. Only curious again!
@@emperorkumquat To be honest I do want to empathize with Megatron, but my issue with most of his incarnations is that they never really go far into adding depth into his character outside of MAYBE adding a "noble" warrior aspect to him (such as the Animated series).
IDW and comic series being long-running allowed them to really dive deep into his character and backstory, painting the picture of a freedom fighter who lost his way during a bloody civil war, and when presented with his sins and deeds actually went forward to redeem himself through his own actions.
The various television series tend to not really allow that to happen, with the only notable exception (that I can think of) being Armada when he and the Decepticons allied with the Autobots to take on Unicron. (Which the Prime version did as well, but did it as more a matter of convenience rather than the deep impactful bond the Armada series has.)
Megatron is a great and complex character, but viewers never really get to see the deeper sides of him given how the television series usually plays out, with most of his origin and such just briefly glossed over, which usually keeps him painted as a one-note tyrant.
Wow. I love Starscream even more now. ^^
Good video, interesting take. I've always liked Starscream.
"I'm not evil, I'm just treated that way."
"Starscream doesn't do much other than shock and insult them."
Starscream came up with the idea of killing all of Shockwave's Predacons by using the Autobots
In this way, Starscream is responsible for the death of Predaking's brothers
Predaking must have deduced this while in exile and told Darksteel and Skylynx
That was the score to settle
Well to add to the Predacons case, in the episode Evolution when the decepticons are questioning the chances of a possible predacon revolution in which they planned to destroy the clones, starscream even suggests to get the autobots to do the dirty work for them so settling scores could be avenging his unborn brothers
GladiatorGigan Predaking doesn’t know this though
I’ve always had a crazy theory about him being an Autobot spy
I like your opinion this is usually where some people disagree but I love your opinion I think transformers prime star scream had to be the best star scream of them all if he can survive Megatron/ being on his own for most of season 2/ 3predacons / and the auto bots he is there for the best star scream ( I do love this character a lot but he killed cliffjumper so I would say it’s 50/50 on how I feel)
fins1099 eh idw starscream is better and armada Starscream was the dinobot of it
Aninated Scream was more successful even if he wasn't as sympathetic
Starscream is the unsung hero in tfp I believe. The in between character of good versus evil. He is my favourite because he tied the show together even though he kept saying he wasn’t a human fan yet he displayed human traits quite a number of times. He is funny too had a sense of humour. I enjoyed watching this segment about him and I agree with what you say. TFP is such a great series.
He is definitely the *anti-hero*
You could literally work on Game Theory with that observation skills
Super interesting!!! I watched this show as a kid and Starscream is my favorite character. I didnt notice the relationship he had with the predacons and i learned a lot from your video! The first time i understood Starscream's abuse from Megatron was when i read the comic collection "till all are one" volume 3 as an adult! If you haven't read the Windblade comics and volumes 1,2 and 3 of "till all are one", 110% recommend!!!! Starscream is AWESOME in those comics!!!!
Oh my
I loved Starscream's character, but now I see how much I didn't realise about his character. This whole video makes me love him even more and really good job on analysis
You forget that Starscream was the one who had the idea to destroy the predecon clones at Shockwave's off-site laboratory. I'd say they have a good reason to want revenge.
I think I mentioned that they don't actually know that he did that.
Bayverse starscream:
DIE DIE DIE *pukes for some reason*
AH MY EYE
*Micheal Bay explosion*
The moment I like the most is when
He saves Arcee from Airachnaid like a true badass and makes her run for money
All the while like a badass and not doubting in himself or cower on fear
I do think the worst enemy of him is himself always holding himself in fear
I can't hear this song without thinking of starscream now. Thanks
I mean, as much as I enjoyed starscream, he’s had multiple opportunities to change his ways and refused them. Not to mention: he IS a war criminal. Had he been caught by the Autobots he probably would have eventually been executed or serve a life sentence in some dungeon in the depths of Iacon. Also, while yes he does find security in the decepticon corps, he also gave up his position as sky commander of a team of energon seekers to join what was in essence a rebellion against the state And then would have had to do a lot of rather despicable things in order for him to get to second in command of the cons.
She kind of rips the predacons throughout this video, you also have to realize where you might consider some things to be unfounded, such as leading simply because you are the strongest, but they are from a far earlier and far more primal age. Imagine Bringing a Neanderthal into the modern age and ripping him a new one because he continued to follow his own culture. Back in the age where they originated from, the only ones to survive would have been the strongest and with that strength then would come experience and the capability to keep others and their species alive. It might be wrong but that’s the world they lived in and it would probably have taken several generations for them to grow culturally to the equivalence of modern society. A chance their species was robbed because of starscream’s actions, be that justifiable self-defense or the continuation of a corrupt military regime. Unless of course Shockwave just kept working after the series ended.
That being said, I actually do agree with about 95% of what he said. Only other thing is with the Autobots abandoning starscream while he’s injured, walking away has a lot of bargaining power. They probably didn’t actually plan on leaving him there like that but making scream think that practically forces him into talking. Well done with the video.
I am thoroughly impressed by this analysis. I never thought about Starscream like that but seeing this was really interesting.
Look in the Transformers movies Starscream always disgusted me and angered me, but here in the Prime series I always had doubts about him, actually I thought and imagined something very interesting. As stated all Cybertronians be they Autobots or Decepticons came from the same core that filled their sparks with life. No Decepticon was bad or is it true not only that but no one ever thinks about the other seekers or flyers, those soldiers some purple and others with a Black and Silver, were never just slaves of Megatron but even when some were captured the Autobots gave the opportunity to have a job rebuild Cybertron and for their home both would do everything just like Children who truly Love a Mother and a Father would. Megatron learned the hardest way possible the meaning of oppression, it was only when he was brought to life again thanks to Unicron that he saw that it wasn't worth living with a Primordial Being who only used him for his own revenge. If we notice he can feel what his other "servants" felt when he just gave orders or tortured one of them like Starscream. Megatron loves his freedom above all but he needed to learn the hard way to appreciate life and also other Cybertronians be they Decepticons or Autobots. I feel a lot of regret and compassion when I saw this video Starscream could be someone much better if everyone gives it a chance. If we realize his life is like that of a teenager who tries to give his best to those who welcomed him, he kills for himself if he didn't want it, he enslaves for himself if he cared for others. Starscream really gave his all to Megatron and he treated him like garbage someone who will never be really useful or his "cause" that no longer existed because Megatron became more Hostile and much more like an Emperor than just a Soldier who I wanted to fight for a just cause. Starscream could be more than just a "Star Scream" it could be a "Star Sing".
You're inside into the transformers universe is impeccable. Much appreciation for you putting these videos together takes a lot of work and time and I honor that
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Your videos going into depth about the characters in prime are making me appreciate the show even more than I ever have before.