What happens to the American Conference now?

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  • @Frommalwithlove
    @Frommalwithlove Год назад +16

    SMU has never even won the conference and isnt favored this year. How is losing them gonna hurt????

  • @na_k
    @na_k Год назад +5

    It's a shame as the American was a great league at it's peak. Good and competitive football. UCF, Cincy, Memphis, Houston, and Tulane all beat multiple power 5 programs and made NY6 bowls I believe.

  • @garygablenz337
    @garygablenz337 Год назад +7

    For those speculating about Notre Dame maybe eventually joining the Big Ten, it is a fact that Notre Dame already has one athletic team in the Big Ten. It's their men's ice hockey team. 10 years ago, when Penn State started their men's and women's hockey teams, the Big Ten began sponsoring men's hockey, and required all the Big Ten schools with men's hockey teams to put those teams in the Big Ten, which caused the collapse of the Central Collegiate Hockey Association, which lost Michigan, Michigan State, and Ohio State. Notre Dame's hockey team had also been in the CCHA, because the ACC has never sponsored ice hockey, and was now homeless. So Notre Dame's hockey team applied to join the Big Ten and was accepted. So for 10 years now, Notre Dame has been independent in football, in the Big Ten in men's hockey, and in the ACC in every other sport. (Notre Dame doesn't have a women's hockey team.)

    • @joshua_wherley
      @joshua_wherley Год назад

      Thank you for pointing this out. I went to BGSU and remember our hockey team playing Ohio State, Notre Dame, Western Michigan, etc. every year. I always thought it was funny that when the Big 10 established a hockey conference they only had six teams. Then again, they have like 16 in football. Maybe that's why my dad calls them the "Big Whatever".

  • @Knightowl1980
    @Knightowl1980 Год назад +7

    The conference did become the top G5 conference so it’s natural other conferences would pick from them. It’s like the Montreal expos before they dissolved. I feel a little bad bc Memphis, Tulane, SMU , usf werre all on the cusp of entering the P5 and there were many expansion opportunities and now with PAC disintegrating and B12 expanding 8 teams in 2 years and the ACC on the brink all the windows for options are closing hard.

  • @keithbeck8170
    @keithbeck8170 Год назад +5

    I feel like Memphis is the left over option for everybody unless a conference needs a school to make it an even number.

    • @vernonsheldon-witter1225
      @vernonsheldon-witter1225 Год назад

    • @deboisblanc
      @deboisblanc Год назад +2

      Memphis is the best football/basketball program on the table.

    • @ravipatel6553
      @ravipatel6553 Год назад +1

      @@deboisblancbig facts since fuente and norvell came thru they haven’t had a losing season. That’s a big turnaround for my program.

    • @offtilt
      @offtilt 11 месяцев назад

      @@ravipatel6553 ryan silverfield doing his best to undo the work that fuente and norvell did though.

  • @CreightonRabs
    @CreightonRabs Год назад +28

    SMU agreeing to foregoing ACC revenue is the dumbest idea out there. And why does anyone even think that SMU is "powerful" within their own league? They're not even relevant in Dallas/Fort Worth, let alone the 'Murican.

    • @davidjasso178
      @davidjasso178 Год назад +4

      SMU SIMPS

    • @ken2xz20
      @ken2xz20 Год назад +3

      I don't think you've been paying attention to SMU if you think that

    • @jonathanschaper1650
      @jonathanschaper1650 Год назад +5

      SMU doesn't draw

    • @CreightonRabs
      @CreightonRabs Год назад +6

      @@ken2xz20 I live in Denton County and SMU doesn't warrant enough of my attention for me to pay attention. And that's even more truthful with Sonny Dykes taking the TCU job.

    • @ReisterJP
      @ReisterJP Год назад +7

      SMU doesn't want to be in a conference with teams like UNT and UTSA that was clear when they had to play UTEP. SMU thinks they are the Methodist version of the fighting Irish.

  • @bayareadoghouse
    @bayareadoghouse Год назад +5

    this dream conference does not look better for the Pac 4 than the MWC + travel costs are going to be a lot less in the MWC.

  • @juandeleon3155
    @juandeleon3155 Год назад +6

    Lol... this guy needs to do some homework before making these videos.

  • @Joshua-uw7wm
    @Joshua-uw7wm Год назад +4

    For the longest I have believed that Memphis and SMU should be independent

    • @freestateofgrizzy1937
      @freestateofgrizzy1937 Год назад

      No they should join the Big 12

    • @offtilt
      @offtilt 11 месяцев назад

      as someone who was born in memphis and lived my entire life here the university could not afford it. football would likely have to move down a division which university leadership would never agree to do. memphis doesn't have the donors to support an independent division 1 football team, they need revenue from tv deals. basketball would be fine because penny will always bring eyes to the program. same reason why i don't foresee the acc or big 12 as they would be getting next to nothing early on, and they can't afford that. they're in a sticky spot right now, and i think their best outcome is hopping that a big 12 invite would come and with it not take to big of a hit from the whole deal of espn saying that if the big 12 adds more g5 schools they get less money.

  • @deboisblanc
    @deboisblanc Год назад +1

    Ouch, SMU to ACC, another nail in the coffin of the AAC.

  • @Warpig0711
    @Warpig0711 Год назад +3

    Idk man, hearing there is a lot of momentum for Washington state, and Oregon State to the American, considering what the mountain west financials have been offered up.

  • @Spitfirethedragon
    @Spitfirethedragon Год назад +11

    UTSA was not the worst team. They almost beat Houston last year, and they were in the hunt to go to a NY 6 last year with 2 loses.
    I think the idea is get the best G5 schools to get into the P5.

    • @ReisterJP
      @ReisterJP Год назад +2

      Almost beat Huston but almost lost to UTEP! Utsa has zero top 25 wins and zero bowl wins in program history but they won the cusa trophy made out of icecream.

    • @Spitfirethedragon
      @Spitfirethedragon Год назад

      @@ReisterJP They did beat some PAC 12 teams in both Zona schools.

    • @ReisterJP
      @ReisterJP Год назад +1

      @@Spitfirethedragon but how many top 25 wins? Zero. They looked stupid vs Troy.

    • @MattLindon-wv8jy
      @MattLindon-wv8jy Год назад

      @@ReisterJP Troy has had some decent teams in the past.....

    • @ReisterJP
      @ReisterJP Год назад +2

      @@MattLindon-wv8jy Yes Troy is way better than utsa.

  • @michaelandrew677
    @michaelandrew677 Год назад +9

    Oregon State and Washington State are going to the MTW. That's their only reasonable option at present. If ESPN and FOX were in support of a move to the Big12 then that would have happened already.
    Notre Dame is reportedly pressuring the ACC to add Stanford and Cal, but that seems highly unlikely. Stanford will probably end up as an Independent. No idea what Cal might do.

    • @michaelandrew677
      @michaelandrew677 Год назад +1

      @@scotttildI have no doubt that OSU and WSU can survive in the MTW, although they'll have to adjust their budgets significantly. Something tells me Cal wouldn't even consider the MTW. I get the idea they'd just as soon cut their own head off.
      All signs point to the Big12 being done with any more expansion for the foreseeable future, but if the ACC implodes that could all change in a minute.

  • @ronharris8669
    @ronharris8669 Год назад +2

    Notre Dame can still remain independent with a ACC heavy schedule, because Notre Dame is going to run into trouble with trying to play the top 25 teams and who in their right mind is going to Notre Dame to a brutal 10 game conference schedule

  • @danielmcguire3483
    @danielmcguire3483 Год назад +3

    My tigers been tryna go to the big 12 man

  • @randylochtefeld2806
    @randylochtefeld2806 Год назад +3

    If all these changes result in SEC playing a decent schedule we are making progress. Tired of Alabama playing some Cupcake U every year.

    • @brianvillatoro6588
      @brianvillatoro6588 Год назад +1

      "Tired of Alabama playing an easy schedule every year" same person when your team gets a hard schedule and a celebrates when you get a cupcake schedule

    • @MattLindon-wv8jy
      @MattLindon-wv8jy Год назад

      @@brianvillatoro6588 Until I see anyone play a schedule comparable to 2010 San Jose State I dont want to hear anyone from the SEC saying their schedule is so hard.
      In reality SEC schedules are - play 2 tough teams, play 4 extremely overrated teams, play 6 garbage teams and magically make the Top 10.

    • @oVoxxy
      @oVoxxy Год назад

      @@MattLindon-wv8jylol that San Jose team played 3 tough games against bama and Wisconsin and Boise lol UC Davies is cupcake same with Utah state lol San Jose play 3 tough games and 9 garbages teams and still only won 1 game

    • @MattLindon-wv8jy
      @MattLindon-wv8jy Год назад +1

      @@oVoxxy They played Nevada with Collin Kapernick (12-1), June Jones Hawaii (10-3), Utah (11-2), Derek Carr Fresno State (8-5), and an undefeated TCU (13-0) - plus the teams you mentioned...... who went 34-6
      Their opponents in total went 110-54 on the season dude......
      They played 3 different conference champions......
      They played 4 different future starting NFL QBs, and had to play Kellen Moore ontop of that.
      They played the #2, #4, #5, #7, and #9 top offenses in the country
      They played the #1, #2, and #3 best defenses in the country.
      The SEC has NEVER played sh!t like that....

  • @josephross7936
    @josephross7936 Год назад +2

    Way this is going we might be down to 7 conferences by 2025. There currently 131 FBS teams. So if we have four major conferences with 20, and three minor conferences with 16 and 3 independents.

    • @Spitfirethedragon
      @Spitfirethedragon Год назад +1

      133 teams and there are more FCS schools that wanted to join FBS.

  • @curveball135
    @curveball135 Год назад +6

    ECU has arguably the biggest fanbase in the AAC and leads the G5 in FB attendance. Just sayin

    • @danielmcguire3483
      @danielmcguire3483 Год назад

      Tigers all the way ur joking right 😂

    • @danielmcguire3483
      @danielmcguire3483 Год назад

      Honestly wish we were just a basketball school tho honestly

    • @Know26874
      @Know26874 Год назад +2

      ECU is the better team in NC

    • @s98247
      @s98247 Год назад +2

      ECU by far has the best G5 stadium and atmosphere

    • @curveball135
      @curveball135 Год назад +2

      @@danielmcguire3483 ECU average FB attendance was 39,000 fans and Memphis was just 26,000
      Numbers don’t lie

  • @Kayluv101
    @Kayluv101 Год назад

    AAC should add Army.. Having Army and navy would be a huge win. The army navy game is one of the most watched games every year..The president of the united states attends the game..It’s one of the best rivalries in college football..If in the same conference that gives the possibility of army and navy playing twice in a year…

    • @OttoCharles49
      @OttoCharles49 Год назад +1

      Joe at an Army/Navy game? How could he make money by going to that game?

    • @ChristopherORourke-s7g
      @ChristopherORourke-s7g 11 месяцев назад

      ACC should add Delaware if the administration at Delaware finally does the right thing, move out of that stupid Colonial Athletic Conference into the ACC where they belong for all sports, plus Army & Navy there as well.

    • @OttoCharles49
      @OttoCharles49 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@ChristopherORourke-s7g Delaware? Aren’t they FCS? Not going to happen.

  • @xfacta334
    @xfacta334 Год назад +1

    If SMU would SLOW DOWN and be patient they have enough "old money" to backdoor into the 24 team Big 12.

    • @vernonsheldon-witter1225
      @vernonsheldon-witter1225 Год назад

      SMU has the smallest fanbase in North Texas. They get no attention in the DFW metroplex. You don't seriously think most Big 16 universities have not been watching their slide since before 1996? SMU will never get in the Big 16.

    • @xfacta334
      @xfacta334 Год назад

      @vernonsheldon-witter1225 They still have the money, that's my point. Their lack of prestige holds them back currently, but all it takes is the right call on the right day. There are schools right now in major conferences for no other reason than that. Plus, if their gonna run around offering, "You don't even have to pay us for 5 years" type deals....one of the 3 is gonna bite after the ACC falls.

  • @itsrab100
    @itsrab100 Год назад +5

    It's always nice seeing people who don't watch these teams give their opinion without looking pass the logo haha most of these moves where based on Basketball

  • @tjwillis47
    @tjwillis47 Год назад +1

    Ok you had me until you said SMU was powerful. They're ass in sports. they have good academics and money in the ACC still doesn't want them. Doesn't sound like they're too powerful

    • @MattLindon-wv8jy
      @MattLindon-wv8jy Год назад

      I mean theyre really not, they just got screwed by the NCAA....

  • @vernonsheldon-witter1225
    @vernonsheldon-witter1225 Год назад

    Depletion and disintegration unless the ACC dissolves and they can grab BC and Wake.

  • @Joshua-uw7wm
    @Joshua-uw7wm Год назад +1

    The big 12 should have added smu a long time ago when they added TCU

    • @freestateofgrizzy1937
      @freestateofgrizzy1937 Год назад

      Exactly. Idk why they haven't yet. It only makes sense

    • @vernonsheldon-witter1225
      @vernonsheldon-witter1225 Год назад +2

      SMU adds nothing to the Big 16. No viewers. Bad attendance. Small fanbase. Behind even UNT in the DFW metroplex.

  • @GamingHistorySource
    @GamingHistorySource Год назад

    Gotta Admire SMU's commitment. But it would look sleazy as hell for ESPN to hold them to that. They should get something if the ACC takes them on. I say Give them a chance ! Let's see what they can do. After all when it comes to football how could it get any worse than Boston College, Louisville, or Wake Forest ?

  • @equalizer1946
    @equalizer1946 Год назад +4

    Who cares?

  • @George-Kliavkoff4Big12
    @George-Kliavkoff4Big12 Год назад +1

    Basically, make a 16-team blue blood conference. Whats left is enough to make six 16-team and one 18-team conference. I built an arbitrary breakdown, and each of the conferences would be regional and honestly fun. Dont take it personal if your team isnt on the blue blood list. I mean even Nebraska isnt on the list bc of recent record. They are more blue blood than Ole Miss. Plus, what defines "blue blood" is shakey at best.
    Blue Bloods
    Notre Dame
    Georgia
    Alabama
    Ohio State
    LSU
    Michigan
    Clemson
    Oklahoma
    Texas
    Tennessee
    Penn State
    USC
    Auburn
    Florida
    Florida State
    Ole Miss

    • @George-Kliavkoff4Big12
      @George-Kliavkoff4Big12 Год назад +1

      West Coast
      Washington
      Oregon
      UCLA
      Oregon State
      San Diego State
      San Jose State
      Boise State
      California
      Hawaii
      Fresno State
      Arizona
      Stanford
      Washington State
      Nevada
      UNLV
      Arizona State

    • @George-Kliavkoff4Big12
      @George-Kliavkoff4Big12 Год назад +1

      Mountain Southwest
      Utah
      TCU
      BYU
      Kansas State
      Oklahoma State
      Texas Tech
      Kansas
      Nebraska
      Colorado
      Utah State
      Wyoming
      Colorado State
      New Mexico
      New Mexico State
      UTEP
      Tulsa

    • @George-Kliavkoff4Big12
      @George-Kliavkoff4Big12 Год назад +1

      Southern
      Texas A&M
      Tulane
      Baylor
      Missouri
      Arkansas
      Houston
      SMU
      UTSA
      Louisiana
      North Texas
      Arkansas State
      Texas State
      Sam Houston
      Rice
      Louisiana-Monroe
      Louisiana Tech

    • @George-Kliavkoff4Big12
      @George-Kliavkoff4Big12 Год назад +1

      Midland South
      Wisconsin
      Minnesota
      Michigan State
      Iowa
      Mississippi State
      Iowa State
      Illinois
      Northwestern
      Northern Illinois
      Purdue
      Indiana
      Memphis
      Southern Miss
      Eastern Michigan
      Central Michigan
      Western Michigan

    • @George-Kliavkoff4Big12
      @George-Kliavkoff4Big12 Год назад +1

      East Central
      Ball State
      Western Kentucky
      Louisville
      Kentucky
      Vanderbilt
      Middle Tennessee
      South Alabama
      Troy
      Jacksonville State
      UAB
      Cincinnati
      Toledo
      Bowling Green
      Miami (OH)
      Marshall
      Pittsburgh

  • @toasted7135
    @toasted7135 Год назад

    aac did get a lot of money from the Big 12 for getting ucf and Cincinnati

  • @arkansasguy97
    @arkansasguy97 Год назад

    Plot twist ND to SEC with FSU. Clemson NC Virginia and Oklahoma State

  • @karlsauerwein5862
    @karlsauerwein5862 Год назад

    ACC will end up taking them.. Big 12 will end up taking Wash St and Ore St in 2 years. USF and UConn could go to ACC after Clem and FSU leave. AAC will keep drawing from lower conferences. Don't feel bad for AAC.. Ga St. . Miami Oh and Buffalo ready.

  • @matttaylor8724
    @matttaylor8724 Год назад

    All group of 5 conferences except the MAC are pretty much dead. I think conferences themselves are starting to die, even the SEC and Big 10. If there is a better deal out there, these schools will jump at the money, and rightfully so. I think that in the next few rounds of realignment in the future we could see big name brands go independent to seek their own TV deals and maximize there value instead of raising the value of lesser teams in their conference. Being independent for Football only would be smarter for top brand programs like Alabam, Georgia, Ohio State, PSU, and Michigan to name a few. There is no reason Vanderbilt or Northwestern should be earning comparable compensation to the top team in the conference, which is the money draw.

    • @aidanburlingame-lee9154
      @aidanburlingame-lee9154 Год назад

      The MAC is like the worst of the g5. I honestly think that it’s going to come down to either the AAC or the MW as those are the two highest earning leagues with the best g5 talent.

    • @offtilt
      @offtilt 11 месяцев назад

      just playing devil's advocate here, but in the landscape of college athletics moving forward whose to say that the big 2 don't have that same thought of "why are we continuing to have our power bands try to bring up these lesser bands" and just kick out the lesser brands. overall product value goes up even more. in actuality, i hope i am wrong, but i believe we are headed to an inevitable landscape of the acc imploding and the big 10 and sec picking up the pieces, and those two for their best interests leaving the ncaa and becoming essentially the minor league of the nfl.

  • @Alan.Endicott
    @Alan.Endicott Год назад +2

    We have at least 20 FBS-level teams that need to go back to FCS. The Group of 5 should probably be 3.

    • @MattLindon-wv8jy
      @MattLindon-wv8jy Год назад

      Id argue there are about 15 of them that are in the P5.....

    • @worldneedsmorelove4465
      @worldneedsmorelove4465 Год назад

      ​@@MattLindon-wv8jyIndiana, Purdue, Rutgers, northwestern, Vanderbilt, Washington st, Iowa st that's all I got on the p5 school that don't deserve it

    • @MattLindon-wv8jy
      @MattLindon-wv8jy Год назад +1

      @@worldneedsmorelove4465 And yet theres a current G5 team with more SEC titles than 60% of the teams currently in the SEC.....
      And 4 of them used to play with this team. Which makes me question - wtf value does Kentucky, and Miss State provide?

  • @sparkythesecretsquirrel4013
    @sparkythesecretsquirrel4013 Год назад +2

    ECU should be in the ACC.

  • @rhd244
    @rhd244 Год назад

    All these conference moves are not good. The other sports will only increase travel cost.

  • @Yabose
    @Yabose Год назад

    Cool

  • @shrim1481
    @shrim1481 Год назад +6

    Why are you depressed? You have 51K subscribers.

  • @OttoCharles49
    @OttoCharles49 Год назад

    It could be called the Little Leftover Conference.

  • @mikem957
    @mikem957 Год назад

    Memphis will end up in the Big East for basketball where we belong and football will go independent.

    • @vernonsheldon-witter1225
      @vernonsheldon-witter1225 Год назад

      Takle them. Maybe they will stop bothering us.

    • @offtilt
      @offtilt 11 месяцев назад

      @@vernonsheldon-witter1225 i would love the big east for basketball, but i just don't think that the university would be able to financially support an independent division 1 football team for a long period of time. i could be wrong, but just my personal opinion that if we go independent in football we would have to go division 2, and i don't see university leadership being on board with that.

  • @BryMike07
    @BryMike07 Год назад +1

    As a UCF fan it is quite enjoyable watching USF circle the drain LOL

  • @pioneer540
    @pioneer540 Год назад

    Who is this dudes NCAA football team?

  • @Tri-StarTN
    @Tri-StarTN Год назад +1

    Rename it back to the Big East and bring in all the old Big East teams and Penn State

  • @rodneywaugh8535
    @rodneywaugh8535 Год назад

    I do not understand why everyone that keeps talkin about the ACC TV deal...
    Fails to mention the new contract they signed with the CW....
    Yes I know it's the CW but....
    It's free over-the-air TV....
    It's Nationwide and it is in every decent market in the country....
    They are a growing Network and they have LIV golf the ACC and NASCAR...
    48 weekends of sports....
    I know everybody is saying that it's just the CW but remember when the NFL went to Fox.... Everyone thought that was going to be a flop as well!!!!

  • @TheBackOfTheClassroom
    @TheBackOfTheClassroom Год назад +7

    If the ACC takes SMU, they should also pull in ECU as well imo. They have decent football history and they're a natural fit with automatic and built in rivalries with NCSU and VT.

    • @oVoxxy
      @oVoxxy Год назад +2

      If ECU was in the acc they would pull in so many more better recruits and transfers from Carolina schools we have wr that transferred from Georgia or bama tho

  • @GrizrazRex
    @GrizrazRex Год назад +11

    Tulane was once SEC. As for ND, there is language in their deal with the ACC compelling them into the conference for football, if they join a league. The collapse of the ACC must be engineered, before the next dominoes fall.

    • @GrizrazRex
      @GrizrazRex Год назад +1

      ...which is why what FSU is trying to do via private equity is what is really terrifying the folks at ACC HQ.

    • @lilcourtny08
      @lilcourtny08 Год назад +1

      That was over 50 years ago, Tulane left the SEC because they were worse than Vanderbilt

    • @voiceofreason2674
      @voiceofreason2674 Год назад

      @@lilcourtny08 the Tulane LSU game was also a chaotic dangerous event every time they met at Old Tulane Stadium where they used to play the first super bowls and sugar bowls. It stinks but LSU will prolly never come down and play Tulane at the new stadium because some kind of criminal activity would go down. Ole Miss is visiting Tulane tho this year that's awesome

    • @noelramirez1551
      @noelramirez1551 Год назад

      ​@@lilcourtny08lol they won three SEC championships they left because of lack of money in the SEC at that time

    • @MattLindon-wv8jy
      @MattLindon-wv8jy Год назад +1

      @@lilcourtny08 Yet they have 4 times as many SEC titles as Vanderbilt.....

  • @TheDnlnext
    @TheDnlnext Год назад +4

    If so, SMU will be the Vandy of ACC 😅

    • @TheDnlnext
      @TheDnlnext Год назад +1

      @@ElWagonne Spend to win? I guess by that logic the Mets will win the WS this season. Dykes did what Patterson couldn’t. Nonetheless, interesting where this will go and I’m having some popcorn enjoying the show.

    • @MattLindon-wv8jy
      @MattLindon-wv8jy Год назад

      @@TheDnlnext In the years leading up to SMU getting the death penalty they ranked #14, #2, #4, #2, and #8 in the country. The first season they played after bans they went 0-10. Lets not get it twisted here, the NCAA MURDERED THAT PROGRAM and thats 100% the main reason why SMU has been bad for a while now.
      I guarantee you if you took Alabama and BANNED FROM PLAYING home games for two years, followed by a FULL BAN ON ALL GAMES for 4 years, followed by 0 scholarships at all for three more years - the tide would turn into the NMST of football for decades.

    • @vernonsheldon-witter1225
      @vernonsheldon-witter1225 Год назад

      Not nearly as academically elevated as Vanderbilt.

  • @AmboyChamblis
    @AmboyChamblis Год назад +1

    The American league & the Mtn West should be combined to be one League.

  • @SnowyFox1831
    @SnowyFox1831 6 месяцев назад

    The AAC almost killed C-USA!?🤬😡🤬😡

  • @YautjaHunter3
    @YautjaHunter3 Год назад

    5:13 as we learned from the PAC12, a statement of unity is a near gurantee of the conference falling apart in the near furture. If you have to go out and tell people how strong your marriage is, your wife is already boing someone else. LOL

  • @AmboyChamblis
    @AmboyChamblis Год назад

    The Big 12 is making a big mistake not taking W.S. & O.S.