The Rise and Fall of Football in the Big East

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  • Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2024

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  • @JKJ002
    @JKJ002  10 месяцев назад +17

    What were some of your favorite moments of Football in the Big East? What were other reasons why the Big East Football experiment collapsed?
    Also, correction: 2009 Cincinnati was the first AQ team to not make the BCS National Championship since Auburn in 2004. Not the first team to ever miss it.

    • @Collegefootballproductions
      @Collegefootballproductions 10 месяцев назад +2

      I don’t know since I wasn’t really old enough to watch it. But from what I’ve seen the 2007 season in the big east seemed cool

    • @nordiczebo5336
      @nordiczebo5336 8 месяцев назад +2

      I would say the Fiesta and Sugar bowl wins WVU won. They proved the Big East could compete especially in bowl season. Also the Thursday night games with Louisville and Virginia Tech would get wild. We just needed a big money program like Penn State or Notre Dame to join.

    • @RobbieStacks90
      @RobbieStacks90 3 месяца назад +1

      Not too many because the Big East was an incredibly weak conference. It was basically Miami and Virginia Tech followed by a couple of average teams and a bunch of bottom feeders until the ACC realignment.
      The '99 season was exciting as a kid because of the weekly drama of Virginia Tech trying to make it to the Sugar Bowl with 1-loss Nebraska on their heels. As someone who tried to support Rutgers as a kid, even in their awful seasons, my favorite Big East memory would be the game against Louisville when Rutgers won on a field goal to prevent the Cardinals from getting to the national championship game.

  • @fliplife67
    @fliplife67 10 месяцев назад +10

    It’s crazy!!!! College football is the money maker but the Big East Conference will always be known for basketball.

  • @therealnathnath154
    @therealnathnath154 10 месяцев назад +162

    Could’ve easily had a football conference with Notre Dame, Miami, PennSt, WVU, Pitt, VaTech, Syracuse, and BC had the dominoes fell right

    • @stonethrower24
      @stonethrower24 10 месяцев назад +12

      No way Notre Dame would ever play in the Big East 😂

    • @NA.NA..
      @NA.NA.. 10 месяцев назад +10

      ​@@stonethrower24if they were ever to join a conference they'd have joined the big east

    • @RobertDetert
      @RobertDetert 10 месяцев назад

      They did except for Notre Dame.

    • @whitechocalte532
      @whitechocalte532 10 месяцев назад +1

      No we wouldn’t have, there was never even a .00001% notre dame played football in the big east ever

    • @kdeb92968
      @kdeb92968 10 месяцев назад

      @@NA.NA..why not the big10

  • @marketsmoto3180
    @marketsmoto3180 10 месяцев назад +21

    Pat White is the only College QB to win 5 bowl games including 2 BCS bowls

    • @yikes6969
      @yikes6969 3 месяца назад +6

      It was 4 bowl games unless for some reason your adding the senior bowl in there

  • @Alan-lv9rw
    @Alan-lv9rw 10 месяцев назад +27

    In the brief era of Big East football, UConn won two football championships and competed very well. The Huskies only need a level playing field to succeed.

    • @christopherfoote4643
      @christopherfoote4643 3 месяца назад

      They are in the Big East. They are a part of the Big East Conference. They are one of four teams in the conference.

    • @IBangedUrMom69420
      @IBangedUrMom69420 3 месяца назад

      @@christopherfoote4643Yeah they’re in the crappy version of the Big East. There’s a reason UConn wants to go to the ACC.

  • @MRBell-kg4kr
    @MRBell-kg4kr 10 месяцев назад +45

    All of those teams who jumped ship have not been successful.

    • @zacharyrome3432
      @zacharyrome3432 3 месяца назад +1

      WVU has had some decent teams and is on the rise again .

    • @karlgwambe8860
      @karlgwambe8860 3 месяца назад +1

      Penn State?

    • @jayy8409
      @jayy8409 3 месяца назад +2

      as miami fan it’s so true no success from us really since moving to acc only minor bowl compared to what we use to accomplish

    • @cooperf7303
      @cooperf7303 3 месяца назад +1

      pitt has an acc championship

    • @dylanvaccaro6919
      @dylanvaccaro6919 3 месяца назад

      Syracuse

  • @WVUer21
    @WVUer21 10 месяцев назад +3

    I was at WVU from 2001--05. I thought a lot happened then, and it was just the appetizer.

  • @randylochtefeld2806
    @randylochtefeld2806 10 месяцев назад +10

    Brian Kelly taking off for ND before the Sugar Bowl crushed a terrific exciting Cincinnati team.

    • @carsonc29
      @carsonc29 10 месяцев назад +5

      I personally think coaches should be REQUIRED to coach their team the whole season even if they accepted another job...I think its cowardly for a coach to do that to players he made promises to...I understand it might not be the call of the coaches, but the new schools might want them to start immediately..if thats true, then the NCAA should demand schools let new hires finish out seasons with their previous team before starting

    • @TheSBleeder
      @TheSBleeder 3 месяца назад +1

      Well, then he left us before the Fiesta Bowl.

    • @IBangedUrMom69420
      @IBangedUrMom69420 3 месяца назад

      Yeah he’s also a murderer too, shouldn’t surprise anyone

  • @Becauseimme
    @Becauseimme 10 месяцев назад +7

    Last night the PAC12 officially died. RIP

  • @bendalessio4431
    @bendalessio4431 10 месяцев назад +13

    Always said I might be the only person who misses Big East football. Maybe I'm wrong??

    • @Beroean30
      @Beroean30 9 месяцев назад +2

      People loved the Big East, basketball and football alike.

    • @christopherfoote4643
      @christopherfoote4643 3 месяца назад

      Connecticut is a Big East Conference representative to the FBS. They are in the Big East. They are still in the conference. They are a part of it.

    • @kenyatta3840
      @kenyatta3840 3 месяца назад

      The Big East would always have a crazy upset bowl win every couple of years, especially in the last few years (West Virginia beating down Clemson, UL and Teddy Bridgewater crushing Florida). I like to count UCF over Baylor as well even though that was the beginning of the American Conference but they still had the BCS bowl tie-in that year.

    • @WVUer21
      @WVUer21 3 месяца назад +1

      As a fellow proud Big East veteran, you are not alone, sir.

    • @chrishalliday5711
      @chrishalliday5711 3 месяца назад

      Definitely miss the big east

  • @badams4982
    @badams4982 3 месяца назад +2

    "You don't want to be the one standing when the music stops"
    That hits hard for Oregon State and Washington State

    • @denisdooley1540
      @denisdooley1540 2 месяца назад

      I mean, they're mediocre as Power 5 schools in so many ways (except OSU in baseball), yet they're hardly at the bottom. They just were in the wrong conference at the wrong time. And probably had the big 12 not expanded after the Texas/OU announcement there might have been room for them to come along with the 4 corners schools. Crap luck.

  • @robertharper5693
    @robertharper5693 3 месяца назад

    Living in West Virginia I miss these football matchups.
    I loved watching Big East football as a kid.
    Awesome video

  • @CodArctic
    @CodArctic 10 месяцев назад +3

    Not getting Penn State was a big mistake

  • @CyberchaoX
    @CyberchaoX 10 месяцев назад +25

    2009 Cincinnati was not the first undefeated AQ to be shut out; that was 2004 Auburn. Also they probably wouldn't have made the title game with a Texas loss because they only just barely jumped TCU for #3 with a majority of the computers putting Cincinnati > Texas > TCU; a Texas loss reduces the Bearcats' computer lead to the point where TCU's human poll lead overcomes it.

    • @JKJ002
      @JKJ002  10 месяцев назад +1

      Correct that is my mistake on the Auburn fact. The whole line was supposed to be “The first team SINCE Auburn” but I didn’t include that & didn’t realize until now. Thank you for the correction

    • @christopherfoote4643
      @christopherfoote4643 10 месяцев назад

      That's speculative and quite possibly unsubstantiated because the human element was pervasive and it seems unlikely to me that an undefeated Cincinnati wouldn't have been elevated to the title game. Certainly Texas Christian was also represented but Boise State defeated them.

    • @christopherfoote4643
      @christopherfoote4643 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@JKJ002You're not necessarily wrong. I remember that season would have made an interesting playoff but Cincinnati lost to Florida and Texas Christian lost to Boise State. Alabama won the national championship. Boise State was left standing. F.W.I.W.

    • @NobleNoob356
      @NobleNoob356 10 месяцев назад +1

      Glad they didn’t because they would have been killed like every other time they played on a big stage.

  • @ZeusAmun-pt9dc
    @ZeusAmun-pt9dc 10 месяцев назад +12

    I'm old enough to have watched Mike Vick play in college and I have never seen anything like that but RG3 was pretty close. He was awesome.

    • @arthurpasseri4590
      @arthurpasseri4590 10 месяцев назад +1

      RG3 told reporters that Rentschler Field (UConn's Stadium) is a tough place to play. We beat Baylor twice with RG3 Quarterbacking.

    • @ZeusAmun-pt9dc
      @ZeusAmun-pt9dc 10 месяцев назад

      @@arthurpasseri4590 that's cool. That was when y'all had that one coach who should've stayed but took "a better job" right? Randy Etsile I think? I believe that when a coach has that type of success at a school they should stay and maybe get a statue one day, but that's just my belief.

    • @jeffpitts2473
      @jeffpitts2473 3 месяца назад

      Vince Young.

  • @mralbrecht8736
    @mralbrecht8736 5 месяцев назад +5

    As a die hard Louisville fan I miss the big east so much man

    • @RobbieStacks90
      @RobbieStacks90 3 месяца назад +2

      Louisville was never a real Big East team. It was a Conference USA add-on to make up for the losses of Miami, Virginia Tech, and Boston College to the ACC. When we talk Big East, we're talking about the original members from '91 to '03.

    • @TruckerCardsfan
      @TruckerCardsfan 3 месяца назад

      ​@@RobbieStacks90and yet, Louisville was one of the best. And carried the big east throughout their time in the conference.

    • @incarnateflame3462
      @incarnateflame3462 28 дней назад

      ​@@RobbieStacks90what a dipshitted statement that was lmao
      Just another gatekeeper.
      Louisville is one of the best teams that ever played football in that conference.

  • @CopycatNinja875
    @CopycatNinja875 10 месяцев назад +6

    The Big East would not been dissolved if Penn St. had joined the conference. It would have led to the Big East having a more TV exposure and improved the perception of the conference. Miami and Penn St. would be the two main blue blood programs who would compete with each other on a yearly basis for the top spot in the conference and a national title shot. WVU, Louisville, Cincinnati, and Virginia Tech would consistently do well every year and compete for a conference title once every few years to create some parity. It also doesn't help that college football in the northeast isn't that big of a draw compared to other regions in the country.

    • @christopherfoote4643
      @christopherfoote4643 3 месяца назад

      Big East is still around. Connecticut is still in the Big East as are three other teams.

  • @grahamsebren2295
    @grahamsebren2295 7 месяцев назад +1

    Hope you continue uploading, I’ve loved your videos, the growth will come!

  • @SerialChiller1000
    @SerialChiller1000 3 месяца назад +2

    My alma mater, the University of Montana, got beat by Villanova in the 2008 FCS National Championship.

  • @jozy6742
    @jozy6742 9 месяцев назад

    amazing video man thank you, love this channel

  • @brandonconforto315
    @brandonconforto315 10 месяцев назад +6

    If Penn State had joined they probably have won or a minimum play for a couple of NCG games in the 90s. The 94 teams would have played Nebraska as opposed to playing Oregon in the Rose Bowl. Honestly, even though the Big East did have some strong years from 98-2003 overall the conference lacked depth and would have been easier to go undefeated than in the Big Ten

    • @otaviofrnazario
      @otaviofrnazario 3 месяца назад +1

      man, Penn State and Nebraska in 94 would be to decide the national champion on the field. Back them it wasn't often for that to happen

  • @TheMimic12
    @TheMimic12 10 месяцев назад +1

    TV Money is why the Big East began sponsoring football, and TV money is what drove the other power conferences to raid the Big East.
    And at the end of the BCS era where the Big East's AQ status was being challenged, the football members knew they had to get out.
    And TV Money is what truly pitted the football and non-football members against each other. The football members knew that they drove the networks to offer better TV contracts, and they wanted bigger shares. To the non-football schools, they really didn't care for being lumped into a basketball league with the replacements for Pitt, Syracuse, Louisville, WVU, and ND. The likes of Georgetown and Villanova didn't want to play in a basketball conference with East Carolina and Tulsa, so they decided their best future was not being in a league with football at all.

  • @scmcguire53
    @scmcguire53 Месяц назад

    It just hit me. Any chance you could do a video on how Pitt and WVU football in 2007 basically killed a conference with the result of 1 game. You could spin that to blame Pitt for winning, WVU for leaving for Big12, Pat McAffee for missing the field goal, etc. I think you could make an interesting video on this one.

  • @christopherwebb3517
    @christopherwebb3517 10 месяцев назад +2

    In the post Oklahoma vs. NCAA world, there was no way the Big East could have held onto their FBS football members without adding football to their conference. Syracuse, Pitt, and BC would have been gone by the mid 90s. Adding football allowed them to hold onto those schools for 10 to 20 years longer than they otherwise would have.

  • @christopherfoote4643
    @christopherfoote4643 3 месяца назад

    Big East is still around. It's limited to one FBS member. Connecticut but it also includes three FCS members.

  • @colin5
    @colin5 10 месяцев назад +5

    As a Cincinnati fan, the death of big east football was so devastating. Especially 2009 when we were 3 seconds away from going to a national title.

    • @randylochtefeld2806
      @randylochtefeld2806 10 месяцев назад +2

      As a Cincinnati fan, I agree with you. Following the Big East dissolution, 10 long years in AAC purgatory.

    • @brittjohnson7171
      @brittjohnson7171 10 месяцев назад

      You wasn't beating that 09 Bama team it would have been a bad beatdown

    • @cuseyeti_one8three
      @cuseyeti_one8three 10 месяцев назад +1

      Born and raised in Syracuse. My dad was a student at SU when I was a kid. I went to DePaul. The demise of the Big East is soul crushing. I’ve never liked anything about the ACC.

    • @N0thing2C_here
      @N0thing2C_here 9 месяцев назад

      ​​@@randylochtefeld2806i just love remembering everyone saying shouldve stayed in c-usa and then winning 4 conference titles in a row practically 😏

    • @randylochtefeld2806
      @randylochtefeld2806 9 месяцев назад

      I have no memory of mass UC fan (you said everyone) regret at moving from the CUSA to Big East. Huggins and Bob Goin went where the money was. I know Dantonio would not have taken the football job if UC had stayed in the CUSA. @@N0thing2C_here

  • @Andrew-bd8dc
    @Andrew-bd8dc 2 месяца назад

    Crazy how now in the new world of realignment most if not all of the old Big East teams will be left out of the Power 2.

  • @vpgbreezy3794
    @vpgbreezy3794 10 месяцев назад +8

    All they had to do was get Penn st

    • @guyhill6269
      @guyhill6269 7 месяцев назад +1

      So true.
      Also could have added Temple and maybe Rhode Island from the beginning. Could have started out with 12 solid schools. 😢

  • @pikeusf23
    @pikeusf23 4 месяца назад +1

    Used to love watching USF beat up WVU and eventually getting up to #2 in the BCS in 2007.

    • @billblaski9523
      @billblaski9523 3 месяца назад

      That whole 2007 season was nuts, how many teams rose to #2 then lost the following week

    • @pikeusf23
      @pikeusf23 3 месяца назад

      @@billblaski9523 I saw a video on how it was the curse of #2.

    • @billblaski9523
      @billblaski9523 3 месяца назад

      @@pikeusf23 kto?

    • @pikeusf23
      @pikeusf23 3 месяца назад

      @@billblaski9523 whats kto?

    • @IBangedUrMom69420
      @IBangedUrMom69420 3 месяца назад

      @@pikeusf23The name of the channel who made the video

  • @sdeepj
    @sdeepj 3 месяца назад

    The Big East was supposed to be modeled after Hockey East, which is a college hockey conference composed of New England schools. It’s only their hockey teams that compete, like Boston College is in the Hockey East, but basketball competes in the Big East. The Big East should have been the “Basketball East”, where only their basketball teams compete and the other sports compete in other conferences

  • @IamPeteQuill
    @IamPeteQuill 7 месяцев назад +1

    Can you do one specifically about Marquette?

  • @alecwulfhorst1097
    @alecwulfhorst1097 3 месяца назад

    So close to 10k

  • @arthurpasseri4590
    @arthurpasseri4590 10 месяцев назад +2

    UConn, if Randy Edsall didn't leave after the Fiesta Bowl (Or told the UConn administration before the game he would be leaving) could have a different history. The Fiesta Bowl was run poorly by Edsall, it seems he didnt want to be there.
    Another poor decision, from Connecticut's point, was the lawsuit by (then) AG Richard Blumenthal (the idiot Senator). Now, the ACC (with ex Big East members Syracuse, Boston College and Louisville) are inviting other Colleges to join, since UConn is blacklisted.
    Third issue was when Randy Edsall left, UConn AD didn't want to hire an up and comer, but a coach who knew the northeast football scene, Paul Pastrloni, who left UConn football in shambles. Now UConn football is looking up, and hope we can either join the Big Ten, the Big 12 or the new look ACC when FSU and UMiami leaves.

    • @mfahy0718
      @mfahy0718 6 месяцев назад

      UConn has zero chance to ever get into the B1G. Rutgers, Maryland, and Penn State will vote no to them and convince the football first schools like Ohio State and Michigan to vote them down.

  • @donnie2832
    @donnie2832 10 месяцев назад +1

    Why didn’t they try to add Florida St. and South Carolina when they were added Miami and the other schools?

  • @zacharyrome3432
    @zacharyrome3432 3 месяца назад

    Big East football was extremely underrated was clear cut stronger than the acc but the acc had smarter leadership .

  • @samuraisaxon6800
    @samuraisaxon6800 4 месяца назад +1

    They need to kick butler and UConn out of the current big East for basketball and add in BC and Notre Dame for the ultimate all Catholic conference

  • @SizzurpFoo
    @SizzurpFoo 3 месяца назад

    Just think if Seton Hall would have created a football program for this conference

  • @VLA1234-t2t
    @VLA1234-t2t 10 месяцев назад +1

    The big east got a little greedy forsure.
    Espn offered them around 14m per school in a 10 year deal and that was a bigeast without miami/vtech/bc
    The 14m per school wouldve put them on par with what the other power conferences made at the time.
    In 2011, Sec was making like 14m, big12 9-10m etc
    Ofc they all got new contracts to push them into the 19-20m range like 2 years later so the bigeast wouldve been a bit behind (with the fox basketball contract the bigeast wouldve been at 16-17m per school. So only about 4-5m behind the other power conferences.
    It would’ve undeniably still been a power conference money wise.
    The aac ended up getting 8m/per year.

  • @alancavy
    @alancavy Месяц назад

    As a UConn student and fan, this hurts to watch a bit lol

  • @RobertDetert
    @RobertDetert 10 месяцев назад +1

    The Big East Conference wasn't a bad football conference..I actually prefer the old Big East Conference over the new mostly private universities Big East Conference.

  • @gojira5425
    @gojira5425 10 месяцев назад +1

    And what have those teams done since leaving? Nothing! Greed got the best of them.

  • @mattmang07
    @mattmang07 5 месяцев назад

    I think this is mostly fair, though I do think it stops short of the full story when talking about the aftermath of declining the tv deal. Once the Big East declined the deal with ESPN, ESPN helped orchestrate the league’s demise by acting as a pseudo advisor to the ACC and encouraging the ACC to invite Big East teams in 2011.

  • @Austin_Niepołomice
    @Austin_Niepołomice 10 месяцев назад +15

    Big East is far better off without football. It's a sport that only ever destroys conferences and ruins regional rivalries for everyone. Basketball only has kept a close knit regional footprint with intense games every week.

    • @stonethrower24
      @stonethrower24 10 месяцев назад +2

      Northeast schools are pretty much always garbage at football anyways so it’s a good deal for everyone.

    • @arthurpasseri4590
      @arthurpasseri4590 10 месяцев назад +1

      The Big East is a great conference for the private Schools, but UConn is a misfit in it. Independent Football is dying and FCS (Division 1AA) is not fiscally viable. That's why Delaware is going FBS along with South Dakota State is looking to upgrade to FBS.

    • @nashawnlivingston2965
      @nashawnlivingston2965 23 часа назад

      Meh. I think Big East basketball is a weaker brand than it was 15 years ago

  • @CodArctic
    @CodArctic 10 месяцев назад +1

    Penn State would destroy if this conference was still around 😂

  • @tommykeeran6776
    @tommykeeran6776 8 месяцев назад

    Cincy wasn't first to miss undefeated. Auburn 2004 was

  • @G_54-GMG
    @G_54-GMG 10 месяцев назад

    I wish conferences made sense again?

  • @RobertDetert
    @RobertDetert 10 месяцев назад

    Note Dame just might as well join the ACCfor football..But they wont.
    They just signed a new extension with NBC.

    • @otaviofrnazario
      @otaviofrnazario 3 месяца назад

      unless we got a playoff system that actually says "join a conference or no shot at a national championship" and stand the ground, Notre Dame will never drop NBC or their independence. We know that they will not be dropped by tv, and they earn more independently than in a conference

  • @jonpike9991
    @jonpike9991 10 месяцев назад +1

    Penn State was a better fit for the B1G, especially in wrestling. Iowa vs. Penn State. BigEast should have gone after Nova to make the jump to FBS and UCF. Nova UCF USF WVU Rutgers BC Memphis UConn Temple VT Pitt Cuse

  • @Stephen-to7jx
    @Stephen-to7jx 10 месяцев назад +1

    Penn State was never in Big East Football

  • @Bigvulcha
    @Bigvulcha 10 месяцев назад

    Kinda ironic with everything going on in the Acc

  • @Collegefootballproductions
    @Collegefootballproductions 9 месяцев назад +1

    4:39 that was foreshadowing for 2007

  • @ajmizenko983
    @ajmizenko983 10 месяцев назад +2

    We will rise like a Phoenix out of the ashes

  • @maninredhelm
    @maninredhelm 10 месяцев назад

    The Big East ruined football in the Northeast, not the other way around. They got the comeuppance they deserved later, but far too late to save football. It's ridiculous that the most densely populated region in the country doesn't have a major college sports conference. People are going to say that's because the teams aren't good, but how much of that is because there's no football culture here because there's never been a conference? The Atlantic 10 could have been that conference, but the Big East looted it, then the Big East Catholics manipulated everything in favor of basketball.

  • @ncaa4life611
    @ncaa4life611 7 месяцев назад

    The ACC killed the conference. I don’t feel sorry for the ACC’s eventual collapse

  • @incarnateflame3462
    @incarnateflame3462 28 дней назад

    This shit cursed Miami, VaTech, BC i dont think has had a significant win in years and years, Syracuse hasnt done shxt and now the ACC is probably the worst power 5 conference there is.
    With Florida State being in the gutter and Clemson being openly unhappy i think the ACCs days are numbered

  • @stonethrower24
    @stonethrower24 10 месяцев назад +4

    Not much to miss about the Big East. Irrelevant conference besides Miami. There’s a reason they (besides Miami) always got killed in big non-conference and bowl games.

  • @connecticut511
    @connecticut511 10 месяцев назад

    this is why the world and life sucks now

  • @Colinbolin0
    @Colinbolin0 10 месяцев назад +1

    It ruined UConn football

    • @Alan-lv9rw
      @Alan-lv9rw 10 месяцев назад +1

      UConn thrived in Big East football. But if you’re saying the break up ruined UConn football, you may be right.

    • @dantesinfernopurgatory7826
      @dantesinfernopurgatory7826 10 месяцев назад

      No. UConn ruined UConn football. But admitting that requires accountability - which is virtually frowned upon these days.

    • @Colinbolin0
      @Colinbolin0 10 месяцев назад

      @@dantesinfernopurgatory7826 alright while that is true if they stayed in the big East they could have felt the pressure to improve the team

    • @arthurpasseri4590
      @arthurpasseri4590 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@Colinbolin0 The Big East broke up...UConn went with the FBS schools to the American Athletic Conference, while the Big East was mostly a Basketball Conference. Villanova is a FCS school, Georgetown is a non scholarship football school, Seton Hall, Providence and St John's don't play football.
      UConn's Athletic Department was mismanaged for about 15 years, now the AD is properly managed. Uphill climb for the football team, but hockey, baseball, basketball and soccer teams are strong.

    • @Colinbolin0
      @Colinbolin0 10 месяцев назад

      @@arthurpasseri4590 yeah true can’t disagree with that but they would’ve been better off in Big East football

  • @easyyeye
    @easyyeye 3 месяца назад

    2:53 eh penn state would’ve been great early on but in the last 20 years. They haven’t done much in football. And basketball is still an afterthought

    • @IBangedUrMom69420
      @IBangedUrMom69420 3 месяца назад

      PSU simply hasn’t done a lot because of where they are. If the Big East still existed as a football conference they would’ve been owning it. They’re a 10-2 every year team cause they gotta play OSU and Michigan, who are two of the best teams every single year.

  • @Jaison96
    @Jaison96 10 месяцев назад +1

    Umm….basketball was better….