Say what you want about GT, but damn Baby was an interesting villain. He's literally the Saiyans' violent history finally coming back to haunt them. It asks the question of whether the Saiyans actually *deserve* their new peacefull existence, especially with how many lives and planets they ended before Frieza and King Cold even showed up, so you could argue Baby is their well deserved karma. But at the same time, the Saiyans alredy got their punishment. They're near extinction because of Frieza and most of the ones that are alive by the time this happens, had nothing to do with their race's violent past. Most of them weren't even born. They're quite literally innocent of the crime they're being punished for. But I suppose that's the point. Baby became everything he hated. A selfish brute, a planet conqueror, *a Saiyan*
Honestly, my favorite villain in GT is omega Shenron. It would be cool to do a Kai version of GT but it would still take place the end of the end not super
It’s funny how Vegeta got his body taken over 3 times in the series. First it was Babidi with his spell, than Baby, and than Oren who was also a tuffle as well
Yeah but Z Kai was more based off the manga and cut out nearly all filler and kept the dialogue more manya accurate. GT isnt based off a manga so thered be no reason for it to have a kai version
Baby Vegeta is like the 4th time we get evil Vegeta. It isnt exactly new and Baby is weak as a character imo. Outside of stuff lile Turles, evil Goku was new and fresh. Zamasu also just had that air around him that makes him interesting.
Vegeta during the saiyan arc and vegeta when he was taken over by babidi. And I guess we can count Vegeta during the namek saga in the beginning when he was killing the namekians
Yea what made zamasu/Goku black so good for me is that he genuinely thinks what he’s doing is pure and the god complex makes their dialogue and characters so good
Only thing is i want kid goku to be voiced by Nadolny if they do dbgt kai. If they dont end up doing that i feel like id straight up refuse to watch dbgt kai. But yeah, baby vegeta is underrated lol
Anyone who has actually seen GT all the way through KNOWS that Baby is amazing and one of the best in all of DB. Saying that hes not a fan favorite is just a lie honestly. Also you have to slog through the worst arcs in all of DB just to make it to the Baby arc, which definitely plays a factor.
He is way better than goku black, goku black is trash the only thing good about him is his lines and forms baby actually has a reasonable motivation for his actions for me he is 3rd best villian in dragon ball after cell and frieza
Welll babay was a favorite, just more when he was golden monkey and ssj4. Maybe not in the U.S , but everywhere else he was. Even though golden and ssj4 was from form cause of a machine. I still would see it as maybe the 2 person to hit great gold money.
The Baby Saga was legit the best saga of the whole franchise, i dont kniw any dragonball fan who doesnt love ssj4 nor Baby. That is all the credit im giving GT tho. Every other arc sucked ass.
![[What-If 19 MOVIE] God of Destruction Beerus VS Baby Vegito Black (Goku Black / Baby Vegeta Fusion).](/img/1.gif)
Baby is pretty unanimously the favorite villain in gt, like even people who don't like Gt can acknowledge Baby and ssj4 are the best parts of gt
Yes I hate it but I’m one of them
No he can't RIP the goat 🙏🕊️
Rip toriyama fly high 🕊❤
Say what you want about GT, but damn Baby was an interesting villain. He's literally the Saiyans' violent history finally coming back to haunt them. It asks the question of whether the Saiyans actually *deserve* their new peacefull existence, especially with how many lives and planets they ended before Frieza and King Cold even showed up, so you could argue Baby is their well deserved karma.
But at the same time, the Saiyans alredy got their punishment. They're near extinction because of Frieza and most of the ones that are alive by the time this happens, had nothing to do with their race's violent past. Most of them weren't even born. They're quite literally innocent of the crime they're being punished for.
But I suppose that's the point. Baby became everything he hated. A selfish brute, a planet conqueror, *a Saiyan*
Bro akira toriyami died😢😢😢
Honestly, my favorite villain in GT is omega Shenron. It would be cool to do a Kai version of GT but it would still take place the end of the end not super
R.I.P. Toriyama
It’s funny how Vegeta got his body taken over 3 times in the series. First it was Babidi with his spell, than Baby, and than Oren who was also a tuffle as well
vegeta let babidi control him
4 actually remember the purple guy thing
@@thedynamictrio-v5ybabidi doesnt count
Rip toriyama
Gt don't deserve the hate it gets, I mean it wasn't perfect but it was pretty cool, and baby was a great villian
Its because goku is in the name
Ginyu was technically also Goku black before Goku black
Baby is actually a fan favorite villain.
Eip in piece akira
Because they got rid of the mustache that's why he's not as popular the mustache was taken away
People hate on GT for no reason. They should definitely create a modern representation for it, so people can actually see it.
Agreed
Yeah but Z Kai was more based off the manga and cut out nearly all filler and kept the dialogue more manya accurate. GT isnt based off a manga so thered be no reason for it to have a kai version
Gt and super are not the same timeline and Akira Toriyama is no longer with us
It doesn't take place after dragon ball super. It's not cannon
No he couldnt. Fly high sire you will be missed
Gt is my favorite series and baby is my favorite character but gotta give super 17 some love
Super is better
And super heros
No toriyamma can't
Baby is sadly Goku black but worse
Nope sir…he would be vegeta black
He can't but his son could
Baby Vegeta is like the 4th time we get evil Vegeta. It isnt exactly new and Baby is weak as a character imo. Outside of stuff lile Turles, evil Goku was new and fresh. Zamasu also just had that air around him that makes him interesting.
name the other times before gt that we got evil vegeta
Vegeta during the saiyan arc and vegeta when he was taken over by babidi. And I guess we can count Vegeta during the namek saga in the beginning when he was killing the namekians
Yea what made zamasu/Goku black so good for me is that he genuinely thinks what he’s doing is pure and the god complex makes their dialogue and characters so good
Only thing is i want kid goku to be voiced by Nadolny if they do dbgt kai. If they dont end up doing that i feel like id straight up refuse to watch dbgt kai. But yeah, baby vegeta is underrated lol
Anyone who has actually seen GT all the way through KNOWS that Baby is amazing and one of the best in all of DB. Saying that hes not a fan favorite is just a lie honestly.
Also you have to slog through the worst arcs in all of DB just to make it to the Baby arc, which definitely plays a factor.
I mean. I wouldn't object, but they have already gotten the power of the gods...so....
Vegeta already bn evil before so baby vegeta just returned him back. . Where as goku NEVER was evil
He is way better than goku black, goku black is trash the only thing good about him is his lines and forms baby actually has a reasonable motivation for his actions for me he is 3rd best villian in dragon ball after cell and frieza
Cell and Frieza had worse to almost no reason to be evil
@@cerealcard3379 every villian doesn't need motivation to be a villian but characters like baby and black needs solid motivation
Welll babay was a favorite, just more when he was golden monkey and ssj4. Maybe not in the U.S , but everywhere else he was. Even though golden and ssj4 was from form cause of a machine. I still would see it as maybe the 2 person to hit great gold money.
Rip toriyama
They would be friends
Goku black design was better simple as that and everyone fell in love with ssjr pink is so clean
It wasn't clean he just pulled off the black outfit and pink hair to a T that's what made him so clean
@@cerealcard3379 You’re saying the same thing I said
@@chiplandon3296 guess I did 🤷♂️🤷♂️😅😅
RIP AKIRA TORI
Always figured it took place in alternate timelines
It does gt and super are not the se wish db fans would put 2 and 2 together already
Nope toriyama cant cuz now hes gone R.I.P we have lost a genius today he will be forever loved nd missed
I love baby vegeta
He's not as cool because he's basically a copy of Goku black
Baby Vegeta was a thing loooooong before Goku Black was even a thought
Baby Vegeta came first though- he can’t be a copy- lmao
That's not how it works and I have yet to get to ssj4 in dbgt
Crazy how your brain works cuz Baby appeared way before than Zamasu ever did
GT is cannon
When
Super is just a Copy of gt
The Baby Saga was legit the best saga of the whole franchise, i dont kniw any dragonball fan who doesnt love ssj4 nor Baby. That is all the credit im giving GT tho.
Every other arc sucked ass.