35:18 Goku deadass just pulled an Eren on Zeno. "You see those people over there? They ruined your world. Wouldn't it just be amazing to erase them from existence?"
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i really like the manga version except for one difference. future trunks didn’t talk to present gohan. i feel like trunks seeing how his old mentor transformed was a super cool moment as he saw gohan fulfill his dreams. especially when getting the final goodbye from gohan in the anime.
The manga version actually cleared up a big plot hole in the anime version of the arc, which is how the original black came to be. In the anime it’s implied that Goku’s meeting with Zamasu is what set him on the road to becoming Goku black which doesn’t make sense because Goku’s encounter with black is what led to him going to meet Zamasu and it ended up feeling like a time loop. I like the version here where Zamasu hears about Goku from Supreme Kai and then witnesses him going god against Hit.
We already knew that. Zamasu never had to meet Goku to set him on his path. He took interest in Goku due to witnessing the U6 Tournament on Godtube. The implication in the anime is that the original Zamasu simply took Goku's body after watching the U6 Tournament and finding out that Goku has the power of gods.
I honestly like how much more brutal the manga feels compared to the anime. Zamasu being chopped up into piles of limbs and Black’s twisted grin with a sword through his chest is just something extra that didn’t need to be there but honestly makes it far better than the anime.
The anime was aimed at a slightly younger audience. It was also accelerated to be out in time with Akira and his apprentice (who is taking the mantle of dragon ball) doing the manga and doing it how they want.
As someone who hasn’t read the manga, I’m quite surprised at how different it was compared to the show. Definitely didn’t expect currupt fusion zamasu to be an anime only thing too.
While I liked Corrupted Merged Zamasu in the anime, I prefer the manga version with the failed defusion that also let the Trunks slicing him in half make more sense.
Definitely prefer the 2nd half in the manga than the anime since ssg was used perfectly and I love how they used it like goku did in the anime version of the tournament of power.
Ssg usage was dumb, literally in the previous chapter they explained the action of transforming into Ssj blue drains your power like crazy to a tenth of its original power(this was described in Vegetas fight against hit). The in the next arc Vegeta goes in and out of the form like he’s playing with a light switch and there’s no power drain like before because Toyotaro forgot about his line he made to make Vegeta seem stronger. This line wasn’t in the anime tho.
@@thepieofyourlife4799 yeah my point is that Toyotaro only made that dumb line to make Vegeta seem stronger (cause he’s a Vegeta fanboy as he says in multiple interviews) then in the next arc it’s like it never happened. How did he master it? When did he have time to master it? and how come Goku was able to do it too even though he was surprised about Vegeta being able to do it? It was purely a dumb throwaway line just to make Vegeta seem stronger than he is then the next chapter they rushed over dumb details making the story not make sense. If you think the anime was bad try reading the manga from the start and really pay attention and you’ll notice way more plot holes/inconsistencies/bad writing. If you look at old reviews from the fandom back then, everyone said the anime was better and that the manga had cool ideas but sloppy execution. There’s a weird recency bias towards the manga and I’ve noticed where y’all are forgetting about how bad Toyotaro was before the Moro arc which even then that arc wasn’t perfect but it was easily the best thing he’s produced.
@@thatoneguy3253I think it also depended on how much power you used to Transform. If he’s just blipping in and out, the drain should still be minimum, especially since there’s been a good time gap since the Tournament so it’s likely Vegeta and Goku trained to compensate some of it.
There are definitely many things that the manga version of the arc did better than the anime version, such as make Goku less stupid in his mistakes, better explaining super saiyan rosé, showing how truly outclassed Merged Zamasu was in comparison to Vegito Blue, introducing Vegeta as a super saiyan god, showing Zamasu and Goku Black backed into a corner to force them to fuse, Goku actually trying to stop the fusion, bringing up how Zamasu also should have a time limit with potara fusion since he was never officially made into a supreme kai, and seeing Merged Zamasu afraid of being erased by future Zeno. However, there are some things handled better in the anime, such as Future Trunks has more involvement in the anime, Zamasu having a personal and more legitimate reason for stealing Goku's body, the better handling of the mystery behind Goku Black, and arguably better fights and teamwork with Goku and Vegeta.
What do you guys think about the Goku Black Arc? 🤔 My thoughts: The Goku Black Arc is one of the BEST in the MANGA. Black is such an amazing villain, and the battles are so action packed! I love it! ❤️
After watching this video I feel like the arc wasn’t that great, and the anime did a worse version towards the end of it with rage trunks and the spirit swords, also I have to say goku black felt like much more of a separate characters in the anime compared to the manga, I feel like trunks didn’t get as much screen time in the manga as he did in the anime
I hate the Manga Version trunks was Irrelevant Goku Black was ruined and Goku never had chance to fight black an deals with zamasu for the entire arc And Goku needing god to beat trunks All though I like Perfected Blue SSJ Goku Black Goku Using Hakai God Vegeta And Gamma Burst Flash
The manga version of this arc is better written than the anime. Now I finally understand why Black was obsessed with Truck's timeline and why Bills or Whis didn't intervened in Zamasu's plans.
@@chamber_hiro256 The Milk thing is in Latin American Spanish. In the Castillian dub, she's Chichi. The name change in the LATAM dub is because Chichi in Spanish is slang for vulva. EDIT: And the whole point of Chichi's name is that, in Japanese, Chichi is slang for breasts. So her dub name is named after breast milk.
The anime was cool but I definitely prefer the manga version of this arc, specifically with Super Saiyan God being used in this arc. Crazy that it took the Broly movie to finally see Vegeta use it in the anime
@@joelt9034Same but it's also ironic how the manga explains Trunks Rage form could also be from his potential being unlocked the same way it was for Mystic Gohan.
Watching this recap of the manga version of the Goku Black arc really makes me wish majority of the manga would be anime adapted compared to the small amount that was already in there and the massive differences in there
@@justinsden yeah, personally the best anime/manga difference in my opinion is when Goku used Kaioken with Ssj Blue in the anime, its always a treat when popular shows brings back things that fills us with nostalgia, and Kaioken was a big moment for that. And it also did what i assume a lot of Z fans wanted to happen and that was if Goku was ever gonna combine Kaioken with super saiyan 1-3
Manga did the overall story better while I think presentation wise like fights or characters the anime did better. I would love to see one day a Super Kai version where it combines the strengths of both versions if they ever do that DB remake that was brought up
Those are good points. One thing I liked about the anime version better was the farewell between Gohan and Trunks. I thought that was nice. Other than that though, I feel the manga did it better
@justinsden true. Oddly enough the manga canon makes the anime make more sense too. Super saiyan rage from Trunks in the anime is fan service. If it was in the manga it would be another result of him being a Kai's apprentice
I also appreciate how raw and brutal the manga version is, hopefully if they do something like Super Kai they keep the same energy. Zamasu getting cut in half + Goku black smirking with a sword through his chest is edgy as hell
@@omarpro1495 Angels are still around tho', they're just not in the line of their job since they were still waiting for their new individual God of Destruction. And even if Angels like Whis are already dead (We can assume that since it wasn't that clear), Grand Priest should be still there since he attends Grand Zeno himself.
I actually think they did the goku black reveal way better in the anime, for more symbolic reasons rather than how it actually looked (the actual aesthetics goes to the manga, since it doesn't even look like goku when black's shadow is shown, but then the reveal would come more as a surprise since it was on the next page). In the manga, as can be seen, goku black is standing directly in front of trunks, but in the anime, he is standing on a tall piece of rubble, symbolic of his much higher status and (was to be inevitably revealed) his strength. And the much more intense flames surrounding him in the anime symbolising his destructive capabilities, a havoc on humanity.
@Justin's Den I'm serious. I'm 36 with 2 kids, and I work so much that I don't get to read the manga, so this helps a lot. You're always thorough and to the point. I appreciate it. 🙏
@@sly_tendencies87 You dont know how much that means to me to read this. I really appreciate you taking the time to type that up and I plan to make much more Dragon Ball content so you can get caught up on it all. Thank you again! ❤️
What i like about the manga is that ssb is wayyy better represented. In the goku black arc, ssb is treated as a more powerful transformation than the god form but it comes with the cost of it being extremely stamina/ki draining. They treat it like the a grade 1 ssj and goku and vegeta was able to master it.
It's really sad that Vegeta wanted to fuse with Goku, after he heard from Trunks, what Future Bulma wanted to do. She wanted to return to the past to see Vegeta again and to be happy one last time.. Unfortunately she was killed by the face of her best friend. My heart always bleeds when i see Future Bulma..
The manga version of the Goku black arc is personally in my opinion far better than the anime's version in terms of writing. Because every moment makes sense and there's an explanation for it. Though unfortunately, both versions still end with the pointless conclusion of Trunks'timeline being erased and him living with a copy of himself.
@@justinsden if you think about it, future trunks and mai 'could' have stayed, but instead of living with the z team, they would start fresh on the opposite side of the world, gone off world exploring or even retire from fighting since they are a bit outclassed with everything afterwards, makes the ending more bearable if you ask me.
Something I liked that the anime did is the mystery behind who Black is. The reveal that it was Zamasu in Goku's body was better in the anime with how unexpected it was. Especially when Black said "This is the body of Goku, down to the last battle scar. But the mind isn't"
the part where he split up and suddenly started multiplying like Majin buu and somehow just magically transformed into merged Zamasu again without fusing was completely bullshit and garbage. its sad to see how they fucked up the ending in both versions of this story
Unlike how the anime didn't explain how Infinite Zamasu worked, the manga did and I think it was aight. But in all seriousness, it did lead to an ending just as bad when it comes to the Goku Black arc. Except for the fact that Zamasu stated that he had a time machine in u12. And with his ability to use Kai Kai, the main two Zamasus might have warped when they needed to most. Meaning they are probably alive in the manga. @@DemonSaine
@@DemonSaineit's not? It's the side effects of both Dragon Ball Immortality, Potara fusion and Goku Black and Future Zamasu being treated as the SAME being.
@@riiddisbuk2496The Ending is definitely a inviolable Point written by Toriyama himself, which we know isn't really that good in writing Plot Checkpoints at all.
I like this version better than the anime, except for one thing: Goku Black never busted out that ki scythe during his fight with Vegeta. I know that’s a small gripe considering how much the narrative was improved upon, but I still miss it.
I think the anime does some stuff better but also vice versa. I really like the super saiyan gods used in the manga while I also really enjoy more screen time of vegito, sword of hope and corrupted zamasu in the anime. And gohan waving goodbye to trunks when leaving has to be one of the hardest hitting scenes in super
@@zenitsuthunder3946 Main Timeline Zamasu. Goku Black was originally from the main timeline, but Future Trunks’ warning led to Beerus killing Zamasu before he could make his wish - which resulted in an alternate timeline (hence the creation of another ring). This is a much smoother time travel narrative than in the anime, where Goku Black’s existence is a complete paradox.
Also in the anime Zamasu and black just felt way more composed and scary but in the manga they were infighting and Zamasu was crying any time they got pushed back. The rest of it should've gone the manga way tho. Like Vegeta pummeling SS black until Rose is pulled out. Also apparently zenkai boosts are still viable in the manga which idk if I like that
I remember watching this arc in the anime and it is definitely one of my favorites, I also remember “HOLD YOUR FIRE!, This man isn’t Black” which had me laughing
I really like the original story in the manga, but the anime did goku black's introduction so much better in my opinion, still enjoyable nonetheless tho
Yea, I really don't get and hate this relationship. I guess somewhere in the anime they tried to retcon and say pilaf made a wish before piccolo died...
As someone somewhat familiar with this arc in the anime, I was astonished that the part where Zamasu merges with reality and paints the sky with his evil grin was absent from the manga. That's the part where they summon Zeno to erase this completely twisted reality, as opposed to here where they gave up just cuz there was a bunch of Zamasu running around. Of the many differences between the anime and manga pointed out by other commenters, this one stands out to me the most.
I like how the anime made it more justifiable to destroy the timeline as Zamasu seemingly wiped out all life everywhere. But in the manga there where probably still some survivors on Earth and certainly more in the rest of their universe & the other ones, making Goku accidentally complicit in their deaths.
@@randeli7785Smoothie brain, Black and Zamasu already wiped out everyone on Earth before Goku and Vegeta came back. There's no one except Mai and Trunks in that Earth (which means Asspull spirit bomb Sword is even more impossible to pull out)
I always loved the manga version of Goku Black/Future trunks arc. Perfected SSB vs Fused Zamasu fight, the failed hakai, fused zamasu fight were all great highlights in this arc. The anime wasn't necessarily bad but I really like what the manga went with here
Thank you so much man! Im glad you like it! ❤️🔥 I was hoping to see a comment like this! I appreciate the congratulations as well! We’re gonna keep pushing!
This is by far one of the best arc there is in the Manga! My favorite about it is not about Zamasu or Goku or Vegeta or even Trunks, it is Gowasu that I've seen the most interesting one. In the anime version, Gowasu is portrayed as a weak, very careless, less responsible, less wiser, and a tea-loving old man who also has a sheer and utter like of Godtube. However, manga version really boosted him. He was shown as a much more stronger character and is even braver despite of his old age. He literally went up in front of Zamasu and Goku Black without even thinking about his own safety just so can at least try to persuade his former student for the greater good of everything. Not only that, he also amazingly took responsible for everything that had happen within that timeline, but unlike his anime version, Gowasu actually tried to restore everything back by using his own abilities despite of his old age. That alone is enough to consider him a very worthy Kaiôshin; to think that even tho' he's possibly the eldest Supreme Kai, he still didn't let his own fear take over him which made him to decide that he would time travel to future just so he can try to stop it using his own knowledge; that's what we call an unwavering will. And I'm not done yet! Gowasu actually explained the actual definition of a Kaiôshin to all of us. He showed that even with all chaos, there would still be order upon the Universe and he explained that a Kaiôshin's duty is to observe and maintain order and balance. This directly contradicted Zamasu's ideology of his own Justice; Gowasu told us that you can't have order or balance without the need of chaos and destruction, another divine concept that explains the division of Kaiôshins and Gods of Destruction (Kaiôshins portrays order while Gods of Destruction portrayes chaos and both alined will create balance). Gowasu is the perfect definition of a Kaiôshin and the Greatest Kaiôshin there's ever been in my opinion 💯💯💯! Too bad the anime just went straight ahead and made Gowasu a tea-loving grandpa.
The last scene i really loved about infinite Zamasu not hundreds of Zamasu like meta cooler movie. We already have seen that. But the zamasu the world himself explained how bigger threate he was that even beerus and whis felt it from the past. If it was late who knows Zamasu spread in the past too. The idea of infinite Zamasu was scary and it would be more scary if they made it scarier face and hell like environment. It was already hell but final episode should have done with better animation. The infinite zamasu concept was new experience. And did gave us the pain of losing for (Dragonball anime 😒)
Eww, the Anime Infinite Zamasu doesn't make a lick of sense, basically an Asspull after an Asspull made by Trunks (who is using an Asspull OC form that's basically just a More yellow hair)
Manga definitely does the Black Arc better. But the anime does the ToP arc better than manga. And honestly Ultra Instinct should've been hinted in this Arc
I just wanna say that I’m a big fan and that RUclips somehow unsubscribed me from you, yet I I was literally watching your latest vid this morning “subscribed”.
GB arc if far far far better explained in the magna than the anime, as i can smell burnt toast trying to figure out the anime version love your work keep it up
Thanks bro. I did a poll and a lot of people wanna see the Buu Saga. However, I plan to do every arc from DB all the way to super, so we will see what videos next.
I really wish they animated the part with zamasu making the clones of himself it gave heavy metal cooler fight energy and I loved it would’ve been amazing to see
Thank you! 💯 Im actually going to do every arc from OG Dragon Ball, all the way to Super. It may not be in order, but I have playlists to separate them. 👍🏽
@@harismouzam4859 You should check out some of the other summaries Ive done on my channel so far. Also, the next manga arc Im covering is the Majin Buu Saga.
Do more of this. Manga and anime are completely different in Dragon Ball Super even tho they have same outcome but I prefer manga cos it makes more sense. But best arc in super is Moro 😅
I wish they would have written the z-sword part differently. Trunks upgrading his sword to the z-sword would have been dope and was a missed opportunity
I would say the Anime version of "trying to uncover the identity" was my favourite....here they just got the news on platter And the connection between Zamasu and Goku was much stronger in the anime as zamasu experienced his strength first hand......which makes sense why it would drive him to take Goku's body +Anime gave us a well deserved fight between vegito and merged/fused zamasu Other than that this one was definitely brutal.....
The manga is way better than the anime. In the manga the super saiyan forms are used more often. Where as in the anime they turn blue for every little fight. In the manga they only use red and blue when they know they can’t win with their yellow haired forms, and I prefer that than going blue even fighting krillin of all people in the anime
36:40 This part where Whis talks to Trunks and Mai about going to another timeline with themselves is why I continue to preach to the choir about Zamasu's entire arc being ultimately meaningless to the series, story-wise. Future Zeno's whole erasure should have affected the main cast as well. With that new timeline and with Trunks and Mai (at the time I write this) seemingly never coming back, there's no difference between this arc's ending and if they just never wrote it all.
Its kind of fucked up though, how all the remaining survivors die from zeno's blast. You'd think future trunks would have to take that one back to his grave
35:18 Goku deadass just pulled an Eren on Zeno. "You see those people over there? They ruined your world. Wouldn't it just be amazing to erase them from existence?"
Lmao 💀
Goku pulling a "Chill Eren" moment 😅
Ephesians 4:29
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i really like the manga version except for one difference. future trunks didn’t talk to present gohan. i feel like trunks seeing how his old mentor transformed was a super cool moment as he saw gohan fulfill his dreams. especially when getting the final goodbye from gohan in the anime.
Actually he did talk to Gohan
And gohan is the reason Trunks left the main timeline
@@uvr4402 in an extra chapter, which makes all their relation pointless
@@mohamedlamin2968 yeah bro
@@uvr4402 trunks is like "nah, my mentor in this timeline become a huge nerd i rather be killed by zamasu then train with him."
@@joker_gaming-cg1vr😅
The manga version actually cleared up a big plot hole in the anime version of the arc, which is how the original black came to be. In the anime it’s implied that Goku’s meeting with Zamasu is what set him on the road to becoming Goku black which doesn’t make sense because Goku’s encounter with black is what led to him going to meet Zamasu and it ended up feeling like a time loop. I like the version here where Zamasu hears about Goku from Supreme Kai and then witnesses him going god against Hit.
I mean the anime version isn't really that bad and makes sense too when you think about it.
It's a time paradox
@@BLACKSTA361 that's why it doesn't make sense like there is no beginning itself and how did the loop even come to be
@@Coolguy-or8ex franchises that use time do this all the time. Big example being back to the future,or King of fighters
ok
We already knew that. Zamasu never had to meet Goku to set him on his path. He took interest in Goku due to witnessing the U6 Tournament on Godtube. The implication in the anime is that the original Zamasu simply took Goku's body after watching the U6 Tournament and finding out that Goku has the power of gods.
I honestly like how much more brutal the manga feels compared to the anime. Zamasu being chopped up into piles of limbs and Black’s twisted grin with a sword through his chest is just something extra that didn’t need to be there but honestly makes it far better than the anime.
The anime was aimed at a slightly younger audience. It was also accelerated to be out in time with Akira and his apprentice (who is taking the mantle of dragon ball) doing the manga and doing it how they want.
The manga was always more graphic. Back when gohan beat up the cell juniors, it was very graphic such as guts, eyeballs and brains flying out.
the amount of ungodly things i'd do to that pfp would probably crown as king of the universe
@@raiden64Uh, sir? 😂
@@raiden64wtf raiden
As someone who hasn’t read the manga, I’m quite surprised at how different it was compared to the show. Definitely didn’t expect currupt fusion zamasu to be an anime only thing too.
Yeah this fused zamasu is better honestly since his moves were cooler and he could multiply
While I liked Corrupted Merged Zamasu in the anime, I prefer the manga version with the failed defusion that also let the Trunks slicing him in half make more sense.
@@GiggyWiggy2086No.
@@tylerhartley5031Yes
Also in the manga Fused Zamasu has the full on 100% immortality rather than that half immortal bs from the anime.
Definitely prefer the 2nd half in the manga than the anime since ssg was used perfectly and I love how they used it like goku did in the anime version of the tournament of power.
Ssg usage was dumb, literally in the previous chapter they explained the action of transforming into Ssj blue drains your power like crazy to a tenth of its original power(this was described in Vegetas fight against hit). The in the next arc Vegeta goes in and out of the form like he’s playing with a light switch and there’s no power drain like before because Toyotaro forgot about his line he made to make Vegeta seem stronger. This line wasn’t in the anime tho.
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Vegeta went to train before he pulled the move off.
Goku even mentions that Vegeta has mastered the technique.
@@thepieofyourlife4799 yeah my point is that Toyotaro only made that dumb line to make Vegeta seem stronger (cause he’s a Vegeta fanboy as he says in multiple interviews) then in the next arc it’s like it never happened. How did he master it? When did he have time to master it? and how come Goku was able to do it too even though he was surprised about Vegeta being able to do it? It was purely a dumb throwaway line just to make Vegeta seem stronger than he is then the next chapter they rushed over dumb details making the story not make sense. If you think the anime was bad try reading the manga from the start and really pay attention and you’ll notice way more plot holes/inconsistencies/bad writing. If you look at old reviews from the fandom back then, everyone said the anime was better and that the manga had cool ideas but sloppy execution. There’s a weird recency bias towards the manga and I’ve noticed where y’all are forgetting about how bad Toyotaro was before the Moro arc which even then that arc wasn’t perfect but it was easily the best thing he’s produced.
@@thatoneguy3253I think it also depended on how much power you used to Transform. If he’s just blipping in and out, the drain should still be minimum, especially since there’s been a good time gap since the Tournament so it’s likely Vegeta and Goku trained to compensate some of it.
@thatoneguy3253 i get you want goku to be #1 in any given scenario, but it's never that deep
The manga is one million times better than the anime itself. Just imagine cc goku in a manga😅. Btw, love the vid
I agree 100%. The anime did better in SOME aspects, but not many. Thanks bro! 💯🔥
@@justinsden the Best thing anime did is Goku Black character although kinda sacrificed Zamasu and Goku and the usage Of God
There are definitely many things that the manga version of the arc did better than the anime version, such as make Goku less stupid in his mistakes, better explaining super saiyan rosé, showing how truly outclassed Merged Zamasu was in comparison to Vegito Blue, introducing Vegeta as a super saiyan god, showing Zamasu and Goku Black backed into a corner to force them to fuse, Goku actually trying to stop the fusion, bringing up how Zamasu also should have a time limit with potara fusion since he was never officially made into a supreme kai, and seeing Merged Zamasu afraid of being erased by future Zeno. However, there are some things handled better in the anime, such as Future Trunks has more involvement in the anime, Zamasu having a personal and more legitimate reason for stealing Goku's body, the better handling of the mystery behind Goku Black, and arguably better fights and teamwork with Goku and Vegeta.
@@justinsden I would been in heaven if there was db super kai with only manga scenes
@@Eric6761 Goku black was better in the manga i feel
What do you guys think about the Goku Black Arc? 🤔
My thoughts: The Goku Black Arc is one of the BEST in the MANGA. Black is such an amazing villain, and the battles are so action packed! I love it! ❤️
My favorite arc with the best villains in DB
After watching this video I feel like the arc wasn’t that great, and the anime did a worse version towards the end of it with rage trunks and the spirit swords, also I have to say goku black felt like much more of a separate characters in the anime compared to the manga, I feel like trunks didn’t get as much screen time in the manga as he did in the anime
I love the arc but the ending though...
I hate the Manga Version trunks was Irrelevant Goku Black was ruined and Goku never had chance to fight black an deals with zamasu for the entire arc
And Goku needing god to beat trunks
All though I like Perfected Blue SSJ Goku Black Goku Using Hakai God Vegeta And Gamma Burst Flash
@@XJSPlays02 a weird trade, in manga we get a better Zamasu and in anime se get a better Goku Black
The manga version of this arc is better written than the anime. Now I finally understand why Black was obsessed with Truck's timeline and why Bills or Whis didn't intervened in Zamasu's plans.
Exactly. I'm glad you watched to see.
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@@nOT_sURE08 thats how they call beerus in other languages
@@nOT_sURE08pronounced bee less if you speak spanish. Also Chi Chi is Milk.
@@chamber_hiro256 The Milk thing is in Latin American Spanish. In the Castillian dub, she's Chichi.
The name change in the LATAM dub is because Chichi in Spanish is slang for vulva.
EDIT: And the whole point of Chichi's name is that, in Japanese, Chichi is slang for breasts. So her dub name is named after breast milk.
I just now realized this but the bottom right panel at 34:52 is a reference to Return of Cooler when they fought the horde of Metal Coolers.
The anime was cool but I definitely prefer the manga version of this arc, specifically with Super Saiyan God being used in this arc. Crazy that it took the Broly movie to finally see Vegeta use it in the anime
Great points. I thought the same thing about Vegeta’s Super Saiyan God.
I agree but they should’ve atleast gave trunks his rage form tbh
@@sadevillainx Rage form is still an asspull = to spirit sword.
@@sadevillainx His Rage Form is the reason I hated the ending of the Arc in the anime.
@@joelt9034Same but it's also ironic how the manga explains Trunks Rage form could also be from his potential being unlocked the same way it was for Mystic Gohan.
Watching this recap of the manga version of the Goku Black arc really makes me wish majority of the manga would be anime adapted compared to the small amount that was already in there and the massive differences in there
I completely agree. I WILL say the Tournament of Power in the anime was better OVERALL than the manga. The manga did have some better parts tho.
@@justinsden yeah, personally the best anime/manga difference in my opinion is when Goku used Kaioken with Ssj Blue in the anime, its always a treat when popular shows brings back things that fills us with nostalgia, and Kaioken was a big moment for that. And it also did what i assume a lot of Z fans wanted to happen and that was if Goku was ever gonna combine Kaioken with super saiyan 1-3
Manga did the overall story better while I think presentation wise like fights or characters the anime did better. I would love to see one day a Super Kai version where it combines the strengths of both versions if they ever do that DB remake that was brought up
Those are good points. One thing I liked about the anime version better was the farewell between Gohan and Trunks. I thought that was nice. Other than that though, I feel the manga did it better
@justinsden true. Oddly enough the manga canon makes the anime make more sense too.
Super saiyan rage from Trunks in the anime is fan service.
If it was in the manga it would be another result of him being a Kai's apprentice
YES I would love to have a "Super Kai" one day that combines the best aspects of the different Super continuities.
I also appreciate how raw and brutal the manga version is, hopefully if they do something like Super Kai they keep the same energy. Zamasu getting cut in half + Goku black smirking with a sword through his chest is edgy as hell
I love how Zeno is like '' are these people bad? ''
and then he erases the goddamn timeline
I fucking hate Zeno lol
"The guys in this planet are bad? ok let me erased all the fucking timeline lmao"
@@jonathanc.5364I think he did that because he knew all the gods are dead so he said fuck this
@@omarpro1495 Angels are still around tho', they're just not in the line of their job since they were still waiting for their new individual God of Destruction.
And even if Angels like Whis are already dead (We can assume that since it wasn't that clear), Grand Priest should be still there since he attends Grand Zeno himself.
Hearts from Super Dragon Ball Heroes rolling in his grave
Trunks cannot catch a break🤣. I was low key waiting for 17 to just rock his shit outta nowhere🤣. But this was awesomeeeee🔥🔥🔥🔥
LOL RIGHT! Thanks bro! 🔥
I actually think they did the goku black reveal way better in the anime, for more symbolic reasons rather than how it actually looked (the actual aesthetics goes to the manga, since it doesn't even look like goku when black's shadow is shown, but then the reveal would come more as a surprise since it was on the next page). In the manga, as can be seen, goku black is standing directly in front of trunks, but in the anime, he is standing on a tall piece of rubble, symbolic of his much higher status and (was to be inevitably revealed) his strength. And the much more intense flames surrounding him in the anime symbolising his destructive capabilities, a havoc on humanity.
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Didn't even look like him or a humanoid at all in the anime either. Dude was on some JK Rowling Tim Burton shit.
Thank you for doing this. I have something to listen to at work. You're the man Justin.
This comment made my day. Thank you so much bro fr! I’m gonna keep releasing these so you have more to listen to ❤️
@Justin's Den I'm serious. I'm 36 with 2 kids, and I work so much that I don't get to read the manga, so this helps a lot. You're always thorough and to the point. I appreciate it. 🙏
@@sly_tendencies87 You dont know how much that means to me to read this. I really appreciate you taking the time to type that up and I plan to make much more Dragon Ball content so you can get caught up on it all. Thank you again! ❤️
What i like about the manga is that ssb is wayyy better represented. In the goku black arc, ssb is treated as a more powerful transformation than the god form but it comes with the cost of it being extremely stamina/ki draining. They treat it like the a grade 1 ssj and goku and vegeta was able to master it.
It's really sad that Vegeta wanted to fuse with Goku, after he heard from Trunks, what Future Bulma wanted to do.
She wanted to return to the past to see Vegeta again and to be happy one last time..
Unfortunately she was killed by the face of her best friend.
My heart always bleeds when i see Future Bulma..
The manga version of the Goku black arc is personally in my opinion far better than the anime's version in terms of writing. Because every moment makes sense and there's an explanation for it.
Though unfortunately, both versions still end with the pointless conclusion of Trunks'timeline being erased and him living with a copy of himself.
Great point. Not a fan of Trunks' ending but at least the Manga played it out better.
@@justinsden if you think about it, future trunks and mai 'could' have stayed, but instead of living with the z team, they would start fresh on the opposite side of the world, gone off world exploring or even retire from fighting since they are a bit outclassed with everything afterwards, makes the ending more bearable if you ask me.
@@wdp1a73r thats a great point.
Good video, you ningen!!
my headcanon is that he fused with the other trunks permanently to make him Ttrruunnkkss
Manga was so much better to my surprise reading it after having watched the anime. Gohan' goodbye to Trunks its probably my favourite moment tho.
Also Marsters redeemed his career by voicing Zamasu
Something I liked that the anime did is the mystery behind who Black is. The reveal that it was Zamasu in Goku's body was better in the anime with how unexpected it was. Especially when Black said "This is the body of Goku, down to the last battle scar. But the mind isn't"
Fused Zamasu in the manga was SO MUCH BETTER than he was in the anime.
HOLY LORD!!!
the part where he split up and suddenly started multiplying like Majin buu and somehow just magically transformed into merged Zamasu again without fusing was completely bullshit and garbage. its sad to see how they fucked up the ending in both versions of this story
Unlike how the anime didn't explain how Infinite Zamasu worked, the manga did and I think it was aight.
But in all seriousness, it did lead to an ending just as bad when it comes to the Goku Black arc.
Except for the fact that Zamasu stated that he had a time machine in u12. And with his ability to use Kai Kai, the main two Zamasus might have warped when they needed to most.
Meaning they are probably alive in the manga.
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@@DemonSaineit's not? It's the side effects of both Dragon Ball Immortality, Potara fusion and Goku Black and Future Zamasu being treated as the SAME being.
@@riiddisbuk2496The Ending is definitely a inviolable Point written by Toriyama himself, which we know isn't really that good in writing Plot Checkpoints at all.
@@fg009letyrds8 Both endings to the arc sucked.
But I liked Fused Zamasu's power in the manga better than the anime.
This arc is my favorite all time no crap . Storyline 10/10
Watched the entire thing, PLEASE make another one of these, I loved it and I’m sure others did too
I really appreciate you bro ❤️💯 I have more on my channel and more are coming! Thank you!
I like this version better than the anime, except for one thing: Goku Black never busted out that ki scythe during his fight with Vegeta. I know that’s a small gripe considering how much the narrative was improved upon, but I still miss it.
This was insanely well narrated and would really like to see more.
Thanks bro. I have some other Manga Arc summaries on my channel and more to come. I appreciate the support!
Wow! This is as Perfect as...well Perfect Cell. Loved it!!! Congrats on 100K Justin ❤🎉
Thank you bro! I really appreciate it! ❤️💯🔥
Love how manga shows more of Trunks and Supreme Kai training
Same
One of the most well made videos ive seen explaining an arc. You sir have a subscriber!
Thank you, I appreciate you! Funny enough, I might remake this video in the future. I feel like theres more I could add to make it better!
the supreme kais interactions shouldve been in the anime.. i know this came later but it gives so much more story that makes sense
I love the infinite Zamasu in the manga, wish it was animated
Infinite Zamasu in the Manga is scary af, there's a lot of merged zamasus in EVERY FREAKIN' PLACE and ready to beat the crap of someone.
Trunks in anime: SWORD OF HOPE
trunks in manga: haha healing power
I think the anime does some stuff better but also vice versa. I really like the super saiyan gods used in the manga while I also really enjoy more screen time of vegito, sword of hope and corrupted zamasu in the anime. And gohan waving goodbye to trunks when leaving has to be one of the hardest hitting scenes in super
Facts. Great points!
Wait im confused. In the manga which Zamasu did beerus kill?
@@zenitsuthunder3946 Main Timeline Zamasu. Goku Black was originally from the main timeline, but Future Trunks’ warning led to Beerus killing Zamasu before he could make his wish - which resulted in an alternate timeline (hence the creation of another ring).
This is a much smoother time travel narrative than in the anime, where Goku Black’s existence is a complete paradox.
Also in the anime Zamasu and black just felt way more composed and scary but in the manga they were infighting and Zamasu was crying any time they got pushed back. The rest of it should've gone the manga way tho. Like Vegeta pummeling SS black until Rose is pulled out. Also apparently zenkai boosts are still viable in the manga which idk if I like that
Eww, imagine liking that literal A-pull Spirit bomb sword bs lmfao
Literal bad taste
36:21 Whis carrying that big sack looks so funny 😂
Okay this a lot better than the one in anime they should do a movie on this .
I remember watching this arc in the anime and it is definitely one of my favorites, I also remember “HOLD YOUR FIRE!, This man isn’t Black” which had me laughing
I can't help but feel so bad for poor old Gowasu. He must've thought that this was all his fault.
I do have to admit the manga is way better but the moment in the anime where vegito shouts “vegito BLUE!” Was an amazing moment 😅
I really like the original story in the manga, but the anime did goku black's introduction so much better in my opinion, still enjoyable nonetheless tho
Only because it came first so it has the advantage of Mystery, while we already know who is Black by the time Manga covered the Arc.
The anime version of this came out a long time before the manga did
Thank you for this ☺️ I wanted to view again black Goku saga but reading was kinda time consuming so thanks
No problem! Glad you enjoyed it!
does toriyama remember that Mai is like an old woman technically 😂
Yea, I really don't get and hate this relationship. I guess somewhere in the anime they tried to retcon and say pilaf made a wish before piccolo died...
So glad we got this! Another banger video. 💯
So glad you enjoyed it! Thank you! 💯🐉
As someone somewhat familiar with this arc in the anime, I was astonished that the part where Zamasu merges with reality and paints the sky with his evil grin was absent from the manga. That's the part where they summon Zeno to erase this completely twisted reality, as opposed to here where they gave up just cuz there was a bunch of Zamasu running around.
Of the many differences between the anime and manga pointed out by other commenters, this one stands out to me the most.
I like how the anime made it more justifiable to destroy the timeline as Zamasu seemingly wiped out all life everywhere.
But in the manga there where probably still some survivors on Earth and certainly more in the rest of their universe & the other ones, making Goku accidentally complicit in their deaths.
@@randeli7785Smoothie brain, Black and Zamasu already wiped out everyone on Earth before Goku and Vegeta came back. There's no one except Mai and Trunks in that Earth (which means Asspull spirit bomb Sword is even more impossible to pull out)
I always loved the manga version of Goku Black/Future trunks arc. Perfected SSB vs Fused Zamasu fight, the failed hakai, fused zamasu fight were all great highlights in this arc. The anime wasn't necessarily bad but I really like what the manga went with here
0:49 BARS 🔥🔥🔥🔥
2:35 I was half expecting Vegeta to take the sensu bean away and call Trunks a pansy
Bro your explanation is amazing!!Hope you get more views and support bro all the love🤍🔥
Edit:by the way congratulations on 100k🎉quite a good number
Thank you so much man! Im glad you like it! ❤️🔥 I was hoping to see a comment like this! I appreciate the congratulations as well! We’re gonna keep pushing!
You're welcome! 🤍
The manga did this arc sooo much better, even the little bits of filler are actually good ngl
Facts
27:00 I like how this was utilized in the anime’s tournament of power 31:02 also in the top 33:05 interesting
I like that this dragon ball manga is in color. It looks pretty cool
This manga is fucking goated holy fuck. The lore is unreal. I can't believe the anime missed out all of this
Thats what I’m saying!!
This is by far one of the best arc there is in the Manga!
My favorite about it is not about Zamasu or Goku or Vegeta or even Trunks, it is Gowasu that I've seen the most interesting one.
In the anime version, Gowasu is portrayed as a weak, very careless, less responsible, less wiser, and a tea-loving old man who also has a sheer and utter like of Godtube. However, manga version really boosted him.
He was shown as a much more stronger character and is even braver despite of his old age. He literally went up in front of Zamasu and Goku Black without even thinking about his own safety just so can at least try to persuade his former student for the greater good of everything. Not only that, he also amazingly took responsible for everything that had happen within that timeline, but unlike his anime version, Gowasu actually tried to restore everything back by using his own abilities despite of his old age. That alone is enough to consider him a very worthy Kaiôshin; to think that even tho' he's possibly the eldest Supreme Kai, he still didn't let his own fear take over him which made him to decide that he would time travel to future just so he can try to stop it using his own knowledge; that's what we call an unwavering will.
And I'm not done yet! Gowasu actually explained the actual definition of a Kaiôshin to all of us. He showed that even with all chaos, there would still be order upon the Universe and he explained that a Kaiôshin's duty is to observe and maintain order and balance. This directly contradicted Zamasu's ideology of his own Justice; Gowasu told us that you can't have order or balance without the need of chaos and destruction, another divine concept that explains the division of Kaiôshins and Gods of Destruction (Kaiôshins portrays order while Gods of Destruction portrayes chaos and both alined will create balance). Gowasu is the perfect definition of a Kaiôshin and the Greatest Kaiôshin there's ever been in my opinion 💯💯💯!
Too bad the anime just went straight ahead and made Gowasu a tea-loving grandpa.
The last scene i really loved about infinite Zamasu not hundreds of Zamasu like meta cooler movie. We already have seen that. But the zamasu the world himself explained how bigger threate he was that even beerus and whis felt it from the past. If it was late who knows Zamasu spread in the past too.
The idea of infinite Zamasu was scary and it would be more scary if they made it scarier face and hell like environment. It was already hell but final episode should have done with better animation.
The infinite zamasu concept was new experience. And did gave us the pain of losing for (Dragonball anime 😒)
The anime is SILLIVS SODDVS. It is just false True Form Darkseid.
@@sussyangel7492i don't know much about Darksiders but what do you mean by that?
Eww, the Anime Infinite Zamasu doesn't make a lick of sense, basically an Asspull after an Asspull made by Trunks (who is using an Asspull OC form that's basically just a More yellow hair)
I really love how you explain this story arc, another fire video!
Thank you man! ❤️ I got the Tournament of Power Manga Arc coming soon! 🔥
@@justinsden No prob, it's only the truth man! 😃😃
Congrats on 100K subscribers top next lol
LOL thank you! I might do the T.O.P 🤔🔥
I like this manga version better and how from this early it foreshadows what ultra instinct is like
Manga definitely does the Black Arc better. But the anime does the ToP arc better than manga.
And honestly Ultra Instinct should've been hinted in this Arc
Top tier dragon ball content ❤ thank you very much 🎉
Thanks so much bro! 💯❤️
Trunks SuperDB shirt is the best part of this arc
LOL
I just wanna say that I’m a big fan and that RUclips somehow unsubscribed me from you, yet I I was literally watching your latest vid this morning “subscribed”.
I appreciate you bro, and thank you for watching the videos! Did you resubscribe? 😂
Yooooo now that it’s colored, towards the end I now noticed that Vegetas rocking his GT outfit, just missing the vest
GB arc if far far far better explained in the magna than the anime, as i can smell burnt toast trying to figure out the anime version love your work keep it up
Lol I completely agree. I prefer the manga. Thanks so much!
This Arc is a lot more interesting in the manga than the anime.
lets gooooo, im a bit late but I love these videos from you chief!! keep it up 👍🏽 💯🔥
I appreciate you bro! You aren't late, it's only been a few hours. Thanks for watching!
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Much appreciated bro ❤️🔥
@@justinsden No Problem 🔥🙏🏽
18:01 wow they did this slightly differently than in the anime, never knew that
The whole manga is different from the anime
The cat easily survived the extinction of the future universe
12:30 wow I never knew akira toriyama was a fan of mario kart
My regards to the legend
Shout out to Future Mai for being the bravest human who can’t fly
awesome video!!
Thanks so much!! 💙🔥
This is where vegito return again
Cause this manga was new we only see black goku in anime turning rose
In the manga we can see ordinary saiyan black
W vid also T.O.P next?
Thanks bro. I did a poll and a lot of people wanna see the Buu Saga. However, I plan to do every arc from DB all the way to super, so we will see what videos next.
Vegeta really caring about his son in the manga
Its amazing isn't it
Very nice narration 👍👍
Thank you so much! ❤️💯
@@justinsden Pls make a video on entire ToP 🙏🏻
@@Swastik_Sama I definitely will. If its not the next video, it will be the one after 💯🔥
it was funny when goku bought 50% discount coupon as a seal
Well done you saved me binge
Thank you! Glad I could help bro
Trunks must be related to Frieza for his durability holding off Goku black and Zamasu while Goku and Vegeta get away 😭
After all he is vegeta's son vegeta also has great durability
Wow never know how different the manga and anime version of these were, definitely gonna have to read the manga
"Goku black fires a kam-hem-he-haw at him" 😂😂😂😂😂
Ya gotta chill on my pronunciation 😂
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I love the explanation of this Manga🔥
I really appreciate you bro! Thank you!
Vegito : 😁
Vegerot : 🥶
Vegetto: 😎
Vegutu: 🗿
I really wish they animated the part with zamasu making the clones of himself it gave heavy metal cooler fight energy and I loved it would’ve been amazing to see
This was way better than the Anime
You did a good job here. Ever consider doing all the super manga arcs?
Thank you! 💯 Im actually going to do every arc from OG Dragon Ball, all the way to Super. It may not be in order, but I have playlists to separate them. 👍🏽
@@justinsden i would love that
@@harismouzam4859 You should check out some of the other summaries Ive done on my channel so far. Also, the next manga arc Im covering is the Majin Buu Saga.
Ok nobody is gonna talk about how black had the upper hand on vegeta blue in his SUPER SAYAN state
It's only because Vegeta beat the dog shit outta him in blue prior to zamasu healing him so zenkais + ssb major stamina issue in this arc
This has to be one of the most confusing arcs ever but in a good way. I don't understand how these timelines work
Dbs: there once were 18 universes
also dbs: not using the wish at the end of the tournament of power to revive those universes.
I wouldn't have done it either 😂
Thanks for posting this man you defo got my sub
No worries bro Im glad you enjoyed it! Thanks so much! 💯🔥
You skipped over the fact that Trunks in his perfected ssj2 form was stronger than goku at ssj3 which is why he had to go ssj god for a second to win
It’s my least fave thing in this arc. Makes no sense.
Congrats on 100k🎉🎉🎉🎉
Thanks so much bro! ❤️🔥
Do more of this. Manga and anime are completely different in Dragon Ball Super even tho they have same outcome but I prefer manga cos it makes more sense. But best arc in super is Moro 😅
Definitely gonna do more. Im glad you like it. I really like the Moro arc too.
I don't think so the ending was kind of similar to buu arc for me its either the granola arc or zamasu arc
I wish they would have written the z-sword part differently. Trunks upgrading his sword to the z-sword would have been dope and was a missed opportunity
Regardless, its still better than its anime counterpart 😂
I would say the Anime version of "trying to uncover the identity" was my favourite....here they just got the news on platter
And the connection between Zamasu and Goku was much stronger in the anime as zamasu experienced his strength first hand......which makes sense why it would drive him to take Goku's body
+Anime gave us a well deserved fight between vegito and merged/fused zamasu
Other than that this one was definitely brutal.....
The manga is way better than the anime. In the manga the super saiyan forms are used more often. Where as in the anime they turn blue for every little fight. In the manga they only use red and blue when they know they can’t win with their yellow haired forms, and I prefer that than going blue even fighting krillin of all people in the anime
i like both versions. The manga really fleshed out the story but i really like the ending of the anime alot more
Thats a good point.
Both endings are equally shit tho.
@@VoidBel I liked it
I like how goku didnt forget the sealing tag but mixed them up as a honest mistake
36:40 This part where Whis talks to Trunks and Mai about going to another timeline with themselves is why I continue to preach to the choir about Zamasu's entire arc being ultimately meaningless to the series, story-wise. Future Zeno's whole erasure should have affected the main cast as well. With that new timeline and with Trunks and Mai (at the time I write this) seemingly never coming back, there's no difference between this arc's ending and if they just never wrote it all.
I see your point tbh. Future Trunk’s purpose was completely squandered with the way the Goku Black Arc ended.
Agreed. I felt a void inside when I ended reading this arc. This all feels so sad. The whole future timeline is now just gone.
@@alvinrahmanwafi Eh, not related to my argument, but yeah ish sad.
the difference is that now there are two Future Trunks instead of one
@@mirkototo8940 Not that it matters. 🤷🏻
This manga is so great. There should be some sort of animation of this manga where we can watch and hear the manga 🤔
Its kind of fucked up though, how all the remaining survivors die from zeno's blast. You'd think future trunks would have to take that one back to his grave