I’m so glad you didn’t do golden age supes- he can make super powers up on the fly, and seemingly with zero limits to what he could do with that power to just give himself whatever power he wants. Also fun fact, new 52 supes tended to hold back a LOT of the time. He very rarely used his full strength unless it was dire, like with Darksied
This was A fun crossverse video. You were cooking with this one. Your future content ideas sound like they're gonna be bangers too. Definitely gonna have to drop A sub 🔥
I think Supermsn could potentially beat Shibai due to the fact that Dr. Manhattan has stated that Superman could kill him and from what we know about Shibai he would be around the same level of power as Dr. Manhattan maybe a little stronger. So maybe Superman coukd win the whole gauntlet but he would have to destroy the Earth to do it as it was stated that Superman killing Dr. Manhattan could destroy the Universe and maybe cause a chain reaction destroying the Multiverse.
So, we had to nerf his heat vision...then his combat speed...then power systems...then we gave the otsutsuki a 10 minute head start...then we gave them kryptonite...
Very interesting video as usual Sage, keep up the good work bro. Also I'm curious, what do you think would happen if one of the stronger Otsutsuki were able to place a Karma mark on Clark before being defeated to attempt to take his body and add their power to it?
Thank you so much! I honestly don’t think the kryptonian physiology would allow that. Changing his DNA has been attempted before and his cellular structure literally destroys the parasitic DNA and remakes itself.
Putting a comic character against manga characters is never fair because there’s only one version of a manga character but literally thousands if not hundreds of thousands of different versions of a comic character.
Not gonna lie, did not expect Kaguya and family to have such absurd feats. Very entertaining, but now it leaves me with one question. Can the Otsutsuki beat Goku though? 🤔
Honestly I'd say that if you use the highballed interpretations that get the stronger ones to Universal+, then there is an argument for them. Without that though I'd say most stop at late Cell Saga roughly unless they seriously abuse their hax.
Ngl this was painful to watch lmao you gotta make a video for the otsutsuki/naruto comeback, we need to see them stomp a different popular verse/character lol
Don’t worry I got you 🤣 I honestly didn’t expect this video to do well at all, but I wanted to talk about Superman because I have another Superman video planned that’ll be a banger
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You cooked as always my brother.🔥🔥🔥🔥 Do you read Dandadan? I'd love to see these characters interact with the Naruto verse, and could be very topical with it's adaptation dropping this year.
I do think that Supes can resist Omnipotence and the reflect ability. Like you already said, he can perceive and comprehend 5th dimensional concepts as though they were 3rd dimensional, so mind hax on the level of 3rd to 4th dimensional wouldn’t affect him. As for the reflect ability, while it could be argued that his heat vision and freeze breath would be reflected back on him, they wouldn’t actually reach him either as he has a unique barrier around him at all times that resists telekinesis and other forces of that nature which in essence is how Daemon’s ability works. However, he CAN punch Shibai and outright ignore the reflect ability since; 1. He has fought higher dimensional beings. 2. Like I just stated, he can resist the reflect ability. Also, the fact that these powers come from their eyes means Superman WILL know about their abilities at a glance (as you stated). 3. He’s no stranger to fighting opponents who have a multitude of abilities to begin with, so Shibai potentially having many jutsus isn’t as impressive. 4. I’m assuming here that we would give him his actual speed back? So unless we assume Shibai has some never before seen speed in Naruto/Boruto, then he gets blitzed. 5. If the premise is still, Superman is defending the Earth, then there’s nothing stopping him from reasonably using his tools and equipment… Shibai is not resisting the projections from the Phantom Projector, and he’s certainly not breaking out of the Phantom Zone. He’s not fast enough to dodge the projection, he’s not hax enough to resist it, and his level of existence/dimensionality is not high enough to break out either. So at worst, Superman can seal him away. Even if he doesn’t have the Phantom Projector on hand, he’s fast enough to go and get it from either the Hall of Justice or the Fortress of Solitude. And finally, New 52 Superman at his strongest scales to the Anti-Monitor and Darkseid from “The Darkseid War” books, and Anti-Monitor especially is stated to be stronger than when he had his Crisis event… so bare minimum, New 52 Supes would scale to Multiversal beings. But even if we ignore that and just go with the low uni and 5D stuff, New 52 Superman clears the Otsutski including Shibai, in my opinion.
Yeah I think an argument can be made for sure, but the fact that Eida’s version of omnipotence is stated to pale in comparison to what Shibai can do with that ability leads me to believe he’s probably got some universal level reality warping or something. Also, Superman had had has mind taken over before, so he’s not immune to mind hax, just highly resistant.
I mean ig if you want to stop him at shibai ig you can , I’m not a powescaller by any means so I learnt much more about superman that I thought so thank you for that knowledge dude
Preeetty safe scaling for both sides btw in "Darkseid War" N52 Superman tanks Darkseid's Omega beams, this same Darkseid stalemated Anti Monitor who was more powerful than ever... more powerful than when he destroyed infinite Universes in "Crisis on Infinite Earths"
Thank you! So, low universal would qualify for smaller universes, whereas high universal would apply to the largest universes. DC’s universe is supposed to be FAR larger than our own, so destroying that would be high uni.
At 10:40 I also don't like the statement of toneri being the strongest foe. His feats truly don't add up. In the ending of the movie he couldn't even contain the energy from the sun without exploding. Additionally, In the back of boruto volume manga 1 it states that kaguya was the greatest threat the planet ever face.
The fact that this is one of the weakest Superman versions and bro was being very nice to the Otsosuki is hilarious. Imagine at a lowball you can see 5th dimensional beings and bench press the earth for a week straight. That’s why he’s the GOAT😭😂
Nice vid. While I do think there are scaling chains to get supes to beat shibai I agree with the vid 4 the most part. That said my major disagreement is to do with verse equalization. I don't like it in general when it only benefits one side. That said I was able to rationalize a way to benefit supes from it. In the new 52 wonderwoman run when she and supes were dating supes fought Apollo and you can guess how that went down. All of Apollos attacks just made supes stronger. So using that, with the verse equalization, raw chakra (not in form of like a fire style or water style jutsu or smth) would just strengthen supes. So like whenever kinshiki tries to hit him with his axe or momoshiki shoots a biju bomb or any otsuski enhances their fists with chakra supes would only get enhanced from the blow.
This video was so good and so great though I do wanna just say something real quick you know all those forms of Superman that you’re talking about yeah they’re actually not different forms. They’re all the same Superman in the main series its canon of what Superman has done even pre-crisis.
Yeah I just think each run has a specific power scaling level, so it’s fair to break them up imo. Btw, I see your Red Hood profile pic, so have you seen the new Red Hood fan series that’s coming out? It looks sick. It’s called Red Hood: Resurrection. They have the first episode out and it’s pretty solid.
@@sageofthickcalves yeah that’s fan series that’s pretty good Do you know what I think it was a good idea to break up some Superman because all of them are just ridiculous😂
There is one thing which I didn't fully get. If Kaguya can teleport Superman in her dimension, and teleport herself out of it, does it mean that Superman has lost a fight? As far as I understand, he can't escape other people's dimensions, so how did he win this fight with Kaguya?
@@sageofthickcalves well yeah, I get it, he can punch through deminsions as you have shown in the example with Brainiac, but can he get out of these dimensions?
@@NikitaKashevarov-n6dHe fixed reality by rubbing his hands and using static electricity and can do it in a higher plane of reality using heat vision. He could just run out of them honestly.
If you used prime earth superman or as he currently exists in the comics. Yikes New 52 is certainly fair and even then you had to handicap him to give these bland aliens a chance. Ben 10 vs the Otsutsuki would be interesting.
Superman literally one shot a fifth dimesional being. In early comic he sneezed away entire solar systems. This man broke the fabric of reality by punching. His mental fortitude survived the countless amounts of deaths batman had in the empirer joker comics. My man the only person standing a chance is Shibai. And that is a maybe become he is considered to be the god of the otsutski.
Why Superman tho? there are so many DC hero’s. Like captain atom, firestorm, Martian manhunter, the flash Barry and Wally, Orion, raven, starfire, and so much more.
@@sageofthickcalvesthat don’t make sense. you said that you have been reading more DC comics but you haven’t you just been reading Superman nobody else.
If we’re saying Heat Vision is treated like Chakra and Momoshiki can absorb it, would he not also be able to see the lobotomy heat vision with the byakugan that can see chakra. Especially since A much weaker Sasuke could see cellular sized attacks with a base sharingan and the byakugan is typically treated as the superior sensory Dojutsu?
Momoshiki can only absorb using the rinnegan in the palms of his hands. For the lobotomy to be successful in this scenario Clark would have to immobilize the use of momos arms which is entirely possible but that's just speculation on my part.
@@midesoyibo5420 Superman can activate his heat vision on the target. It doesn’t have to travel at all. For example, if he wants to heat up a doorknob from across the room, he can either shoot a laser beam at it or literally just look at it and start heating it up without having to shoot a laser. It’s pretty cracked
"Omnipotence" in a 4 d verse means nothing. Buu was omnipotent in DBZ. Alovenas was omnipotent but Ruphas beat her. Friggin Luffy was called omnipotent in the manga. The term means nothing without feats.
Having an ability called omnipotence that literally is stated to allow the user to “make anything the user wants real”, and being hyperbolically called omnipotent are two different things. The Naruto databooks call Kakashi omnipotent lmao.
Saying Toneri isn’t moon level when he actively drug the moon through space for thousands of miles is insane 💀 Kaguya also was capable of destroying a dimension with a star and planetary body. There’s absolutely no debate about solar system + Narutoverse. The point it gets questionable is when you get to the universal levels.
Dude all you're doing is glazing, you're showing no proof to your calculations. "Solar system level for sending the moon at earth" and "800 million times FTL for traveling the DC universe." Where is the Scaling?
Superman speed calc: Answer to Exactly how fast was Superman going when he traveled from the edge of the universe to Earth? by Umbralux www.quora.com/Exactly-how-fast-was-Superman-going-when-he-traveled-from-the-edge-of-the-universe-to-Earth/answer/Umbralux?ch=15&oid=238489271&share=3f9302cc&srid=zXV2H&target_type=answer The Toneri feat is high planetary, but he’s called the “strongest enemy” they’d faced to that point, which is why I said he can be high balled to solar system level. Here’s the planetary calc: vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Kepekley23/Naruto_Revisions:_Toneri_vs._Madara_-_Dawn_of_the_Discussion_Rules_(5-C_to_5-B_Toneri_Calc) For future reference, before saying someone is glazing, do at least 2 minutes of google research to see if those calcs exist, especially when the creator whose content you’re watching says, “People have calced this feat to _____.”
Considering peak human with peak human iq can beat him then he is cooked. The moment you add antifeats clark is cooked, he is the punch bag of DC comic. This matters, unfortunately. Mindcontrol especialy, the guy trackrecord with it is horrible, Kawaki can swit places with Batman like he did with Boruto and win.
@@DrippUP he’s able to handle Kaguya level threats, and Kaguya is a solar system + level being by virtue of being able to destroy her dimension that houses at least one star and one planetary body.
@@sageofthickcalves Sasuke hasnt beaten ANY otsutsuki by himself. He needed Naruto to fight Kaguya and Momoshiki..pretty sure he ran from Kinshiki, Ishiki slammed him..I dont remember the Toneri fight much been a while since i seen that film, i know he handled the meteor.. Urushiki isnt even Canon i dont believe. When has Sasuke dealt with a Solar System + being on his own and came out victorious? and he also lost to the 10 tails tree people.
@@DrippUP There are no feats that contradict this scaling. They actually back it up. Sasuke was able to stalemate Kinshiki while at less than 1/3 chakra, and Kinshiki is considered a Kaguya-level threat. So he has dealt with Kaguya-level opponents on his own. Since Kaguya is bare minimum solar system level, Sasuke is as well.
@@sageofthickcalves1 super man has fought people like darkseid who can threaten the multiverse He has busted through the physical and metaphysical form of phantom stranger the same phantom stranger that him and spectre can destroy creation he was stated to be a threat to all of existence he has knocked out god brainiac so hard that every version throughout the multiverse felt it
@@EdehEmmanuel-d7r yeah it’s only New 52 feats, so the only one of those that would apply is the Brainiac one, but it’s not super consistent with his typical scaling, which is why I brought up him not knowing his limits.
@@sageofthickcalves new 52 super man has done some crazy feats like damaging phantom stranger and he has fought angel creatures that killed fifith dimensional imps
I feel this video was a waste of time because everyone will have superman because they want their border line mary sue superhero to be above everything in fiction
@do you have any proof prime alive jenchuriki hogoromo or chakra ghost hogoromo wouldn’t be strong enough? Because we see he’s able to beat someone stronger than him and his brother.
@ With just half of hogoromo’s chakra sasuske and naruto were relative to sakura who could damage an exponentially stronger and faster kaguya than ever before. Implying hogoromo with both halfs could do the same thing
Momo isnt universal small star lvl max and kaguya is large planetary max bcz naruto and sasuke is star lvl and shibei didnt created the verse he became a transcended being by eat chakra fruits and at most galaxy lvl 😑💀
@@sageofthickcalves Just to get bulled and one shotted by a 12 year old with a normal Jutsu not shinjutsu with massive chakra and power drained Naruto and sasuke with momo also having 50 % of kurama's chakra plus drugs and where didn't you get the universe statement it haven't shown and mentioned in the story 💀
@@mohammadzayad9347 You mean he got fatigued by Naruto and Sasuke, and then hit with an attack made 99.9% of Naruto’s chakra? The Boruto movie novel (which Kishimoto and Kodachi worked on) states that Momoshiki was drawing energy from a parallel universe he created. We then see the universe he created in the movie.
@@sageofthickcalves The movie was hot garbage and it's not even canon and later they bring back momshiki in the show by removing this non sense powers and scaling, plus in the manga or anime the writer or other never mentioned that parallel universe power absorbing or creating thing , and no other RUclipsrs other than you stated that momo had that power and never scaled him to universal, no hate just saying. Naruto protected the village when momo attacked then gets his power absorbed by 50 % to be precise then proceed to press momo to fuse in base after the fusion than again kcm Naruto and sasuke violated his bum ass, remind you sasuke used his space which consumes a massive amount of his chakra took multiple people through the portal to momshiki's planet he was fatigued too after all that when momo out of frustration ate the haft nine tails powered chakra pills and still got one shotted by a weak kid boruto by a rasengan powered by a very fatigued 10 hp Naruto without kurama's chakra, yeah either you are wrong or fatigued 10 hp Naruto without kurama's chakra is multiversal stronger than Mui Goku ☠️
@@sageofthickcalves Fair it's just why bother making it a discussion because everyone will be like "It's superman doesn't matter what it's superman he will always beat everyone and everything"lolol
Like it up, I wanna hear Batman take out the atkatski 😭
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@@sageofthickcalves calling it now he's gonna hand Kakazu a stack of cash he can't refuse XD
@@KeanuEugene bro that’s actually hilarious 😂
@@sageofthickcalvescan you do Omni man vs super man?
@@sonicnetwork2944 bet
The word of the day is "just for the sake of argument"
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@@sageofthickcalves Btw ever hear him flying through phantom stranger?
@@Axlrazer yeah that’s wild
Fire vid, bro’s generosity to the otsutski is mr beast level
Bro I tried 🤣
We’re hopemaxxxing with this one
I’m pretty sure sups can be sick, blind, exhausted, no limbs, near death and he’d still wash all of them in like 5s 😭
Spitting especially if it’s a comic book version
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If goku can do it goku can do it to
Unironically, he would sneeze them all to death 😂
New 52 slams, W explanation
Otsutsuki vs warhammer 40k next.
The goat stomps this is nasty work !!!
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as a comic nerd, preciate u for specifying everything lmao. good vid👍
No problem at all! I honestly just wanted an excuse to talk about Superman lmao
who could really hang w big blue?? Unreal scaling lmaoo
Fire vid gang keep this superman content comin 👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼
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I’m so glad you didn’t do golden age supes- he can make super powers up on the fly, and seemingly with zero limits to what he could do with that power to just give himself whatever power he wants.
Also fun fact, new 52 supes tended to hold back a LOT of the time. He very rarely used his full strength unless it was dire, like with Darksied
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That's the late golden age around the time of the Silver Age. The one you're referring to is Kal-El of Earth one and Golden Age is Kal-L.
This was A fun crossverse video. You were cooking with this one.
Your future content ideas sound like they're gonna be bangers too. Definitely gonna have to drop A sub 🔥
Thank you so much!
Superman fans eating good with this one 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
Just wanted an excuse to talk about him tbh
@@sageofthickcalves 😂 ok
This is nasty work😭 Absolutely devious, disgusting, and dastardly💀
That's Superman bro
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I think Supermsn could potentially beat Shibai due to the fact that Dr. Manhattan has stated that Superman could kill him and from what we know about Shibai he would be around the same level of power as Dr. Manhattan maybe a little stronger.
So maybe Superman coukd win the whole gauntlet but he would have to destroy the Earth to do it as it was stated that Superman killing Dr. Manhattan could destroy the Universe and maybe cause a chain reaction destroying the Multiverse.
Yeah I think killing Shibai could be a real problem in that sense tbh
So, we had to nerf his heat vision...then his combat speed...then power systems...then we gave the otsutsuki a 10 minute head start...then we gave them kryptonite...
Yeah I just wanted to show how broken this man is 💀
Very interesting video as usual Sage, keep up the good work bro.
Also I'm curious, what do you think would happen if one of the stronger Otsutsuki were able to place a Karma mark on Clark before being defeated to attempt to take his body and add their power to it?
Thank you so much!
I honestly don’t think the kryptonian physiology would allow that. Changing his DNA has been attempted before and his cellular structure literally destroys the parasitic DNA and remakes itself.
Funniest part is bro has limitless stamina ☠️😂
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My guy is back!
Yessir!
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Just like this fight for Superman
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Putting a comic character against manga characters is never fair because there’s only one version of a manga character but literally thousands if not hundreds of thousands of different versions of a comic character.
Yeah that’s why I chose one of the weakest versions of Superman
This is a ridiculous notion 😂
Totally so right
the official superman (Superman rebirth) is a merging between new 52 and post crisis sup lol
@@mrexpose2790 yup! New 52 Superman is actually (kind of) a construct of Superman created by Dr. Manhattan
5:22 he did knuckback post crisis superman (who low diff darksied and matched amp superboy prime and base superman is equal to sliver age superman)
Not gonna lie, did not expect Kaguya and family to have such absurd feats. Very entertaining, but now it leaves me with one question. Can the Otsutsuki beat Goku though? 🤔
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Depends on the meta you use, tbh.
No
Honestly I'd say that if you use the highballed interpretations that get the stronger ones to Universal+, then there is an argument for them. Without that though I'd say most stop at late Cell Saga roughly unless they seriously abuse their hax.
@@phobiagaming39 yeah probably
This was fire ngl
Thank you so much!
Ngl this was painful to watch lmao you gotta make a video for the otsutsuki/naruto comeback, we need to see them stomp a different popular verse/character lol
Don’t worry I got you 🤣 I honestly didn’t expect this video to do well at all, but I wanted to talk about Superman because I have another Superman video planned that’ll be a banger
@@sageofthickcalves WWWW that's awesome! I'm not that familiar with DC or superman but I'm happy to hear you do something you're really interested in!
@@distraityt thank you!
Very entertaining plz keep it up
Thank you!
Hi sage couple vs battle ideas for you, toph vs gaara, adult katara vs kisame, Korra vs pain in Jiraya place, team guy vs bee 🐝, sage Naruto vs healthy orochimaru,
You cooked as always my brother.🔥🔥🔥🔥
Do you read Dandadan? I'd love to see these characters interact with the Naruto verse, and could be very topical with it's adaptation dropping this year.
Thank you! I’ve never read that, but I’ll give it a go
I do think that Supes can resist Omnipotence and the reflect ability.
Like you already said, he can perceive and comprehend 5th dimensional concepts as though they were 3rd dimensional, so mind hax on the level of 3rd to 4th dimensional wouldn’t affect him.
As for the reflect ability, while it could be argued that his heat vision and freeze breath would be reflected back on him, they wouldn’t actually reach him either as he has a unique barrier around him at all times that resists telekinesis and other forces of that nature which in essence is how Daemon’s ability works.
However, he CAN punch Shibai and outright ignore the reflect ability since;
1. He has fought higher dimensional beings.
2. Like I just stated, he can resist the reflect ability. Also, the fact that these powers come from their eyes means Superman WILL know about their abilities at a glance (as you stated).
3. He’s no stranger to fighting opponents who have a multitude of abilities to begin with, so Shibai potentially having many jutsus isn’t as impressive.
4. I’m assuming here that we would give him his actual speed back? So unless we assume Shibai has some never before seen speed in Naruto/Boruto, then he gets blitzed.
5. If the premise is still, Superman is defending the Earth, then there’s nothing stopping him from reasonably using his tools and equipment… Shibai is not resisting the projections from the Phantom Projector, and he’s certainly not breaking out of the Phantom Zone. He’s not fast enough to dodge the projection, he’s not hax enough to resist it, and his level of existence/dimensionality is not high enough to break out either.
So at worst, Superman can seal him away. Even if he doesn’t have the Phantom Projector on hand, he’s fast enough to go and get it from either the Hall of Justice or the Fortress of Solitude.
And finally, New 52 Superman at his strongest scales to the Anti-Monitor and Darkseid from “The Darkseid War” books, and Anti-Monitor especially is stated to be stronger than when he had his Crisis event… so bare minimum, New 52 Supes would scale to Multiversal beings.
But even if we ignore that and just go with the low uni and 5D stuff, New 52 Superman clears the Otsutski including Shibai, in my opinion.
Yeah I think an argument can be made for sure, but the fact that Eida’s version of omnipotence is stated to pale in comparison to what Shibai can do with that ability leads me to believe he’s probably got some universal level reality warping or something. Also, Superman had had has mind taken over before, so he’s not immune to mind hax, just highly resistant.
Praying we make it to the Akatsuki video
Love watching you vides
Thank you so much! Which has been your favorite so far?
Supes folds omnipotent shibai because he's just different 💯
I mean ig if you want to stop him at shibai ig you can , I’m not a powescaller by any means so I learnt much more about superman that I thought so thank you for that knowledge dude
Thanks bro!
@@sageofthickcalves yw
Preeetty safe scaling for both sides
btw in "Darkseid War" N52 Superman tanks Darkseid's Omega beams, this same Darkseid stalemated Anti Monitor who was more powerful than ever... more powerful than when he destroyed infinite Universes in "Crisis on Infinite Earths"
Shhhhhhh I wanted to make people think this was closer than it is 🤫
hold this like and comment before i watch. U know my moto.
A GOAT as always
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What is a "Low Universal"?
Goated video btw
Thank you! So, low universal would qualify for smaller universes, whereas high universal would apply to the largest universes. DC’s universe is supposed to be FAR larger than our own, so destroying that would be high uni.
My Goat The Man of Tommorow solos 🙏
At 10:40 I also don't like the statement of toneri being the strongest foe. His feats truly don't add up. In the ending of the movie he couldn't even contain the energy from the sun without exploding.
Additionally, In the back of boruto volume manga 1 it states that kaguya was the greatest threat the planet ever face.
Yeah I agree
The fact that this is one of the weakest Superman versions and bro was being very nice to the Otsosuki is hilarious. Imagine at a lowball you can see 5th dimensional beings and bench press the earth for a week straight. That’s why he’s the GOAT😭😂
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Doesn't seem like we are reaching the goal, but I'd really like to see batman boxing the aliens
@@acualancer4619 probably doing it regardless
@@sageofthickcalves wow that's so much appreciated. Ty 👏👏
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Superman slaughters but this was a fun vid
Haha thanks bro
You can get this Superman to Infinite speed and Outerversal pretty easily
Yeah just not consistently
@@sageofthickcalves mainly because of his narrative that causes his power to Fluctuate
@@Ecronicron yup
@@sageofthickcalvesthat can be consistently a dc power scaler named Captain forest does all the time
@@The-Quartet169 the most consistent range for his speed (the range he’s in most of the time as New 52), is far below that
Nice vid. While I do think there are scaling chains to get supes to beat shibai I agree with the vid 4 the most part.
That said my major disagreement is to do with verse equalization. I don't like it in general when it only benefits one side. That said I was able to rationalize a way to benefit supes from it.
In the new 52 wonderwoman run when she and supes were dating supes fought Apollo and you can guess how that went down. All of Apollos attacks just made supes stronger. So using that, with the verse equalization, raw chakra (not in form of like a fire style or water style jutsu or smth) would just strengthen supes. So like whenever kinshiki tries to hit him with his axe or momoshiki shoots a biju bomb or any otsuski enhances their fists with chakra supes would only get enhanced from the blow.
Thanks brother!
Yeah I did that in purpose, to show that I’m giving the Otsusuki the biggest benefit of the doubt possible
This video was so good and so great though I do wanna just say something real quick you know all those forms of Superman that you’re talking about yeah they’re actually not different forms. They’re all the same Superman in the main series its canon of what Superman has done even pre-crisis.
Yeah I just think each run has a specific power scaling level, so it’s fair to break them up imo.
Btw, I see your Red Hood profile pic, so have you seen the new Red Hood fan series that’s coming out? It looks sick. It’s called Red Hood: Resurrection. They have the first episode out and it’s pretty solid.
@@sageofthickcalves yeah that’s fan series that’s pretty good Do you know what I think it was a good idea to break up some Superman because all of them are just ridiculous😂
@@CarlosGarcia91000 bro imagine Silver Age or even just Rebirth 💀 those versions literally one tap conceptual beings 🤣
@@sageofthickcalves well can’t wait to see more of your videos❤
@@CarlosGarcia91000 thank you! I actually plan on doing a Red Hood x Naruto cross verse video at some point, so stay tuned
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What did the Narutoverse do to deserve this 🥲
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There is one thing which I didn't fully get. If Kaguya can teleport Superman in her dimension, and teleport herself out of it, does it mean that Superman has lost a fight? As far as I understand, he can't escape other people's dimensions, so how did he win this fight with Kaguya?
Superman has unironically punched through dimensions
@@sageofthickcalves well yeah, I get it, he can punch through deminsions as you have shown in the example with Brainiac, but can he get out of these dimensions?
@@NikitaKashevarov-n6d probably tbh
@@NikitaKashevarov-n6dHe fixed reality by rubbing his hands and using static electricity and can do it in a higher plane of reality using heat vision. He could just run out of them honestly.
Bro why would you even do this to them lmao it’s super man
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Rebirth superman stomps no difficulty but new 52 superman before the merge they have a chance.
Yeah that’s why I chose him
W video it was funnier than others
Ngl this matchup is a hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby till he fights god
Hahaha
If you used prime earth superman or as he currently exists in the comics. Yikes
New 52 is certainly fair and even then you had to handicap him to give these bland aliens a chance.
Ben 10 vs the Otsutsuki would be interesting.
Superman literally one shot a fifth dimesional being. In early comic he sneezed away entire solar systems. This man broke the fabric of reality by punching. His mental fortitude survived the countless amounts of deaths batman had in the empirer joker comics.
My man the only person standing a chance is Shibai. And that is a maybe become he is considered to be the god of the otsutski.
This is New 52 feats only, but yes Superman is busted and even has an argument for beating Shibai, if not for Shibai’s hax.
Why Superman tho? there are so many DC hero’s. Like captain atom, firestorm, Martian manhunter, the flash Barry and Wally, Orion, raven, starfire, and so much more.
Superman is the flagship hero tho
Because Superman is the GOAT
@@CoolOkay_no he is not everyone has comics to not just him.
@@sageofthickcalvesthat don’t make sense. you said that you have been reading more DC comics but you haven’t you just been reading Superman nobody else.
@@sageofthickcalvesbro and Batman can’t beat the akaski in Naruto he can’t he’s a normal human with no powers.
If we’re saying Heat Vision is treated like Chakra and Momoshiki can absorb it, would he not also be able to see the lobotomy heat vision with the byakugan that can see chakra. Especially since A much weaker Sasuke could see cellular sized attacks with a base sharingan and the byakugan is typically treated as the superior sensory Dojutsu?
Momoshiki can only absorb using the rinnegan in the palms of his hands. For the lobotomy to be successful in this scenario Clark would have to immobilize the use of momos arms which is entirely possible but that's just speculation on my part.
Thankyou for making me laugh today 👌🏽
You’re welcome
that JJK chapter aye?
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Gojo coming back for sure
Wouldn’t Momo be able to see the labotomy attack coming with his byakugan?
@@midesoyibo5420 Superman can activate his heat vision on the target. It doesn’t have to travel at all. For example, if he wants to heat up a doorknob from across the room, he can either shoot a laser beam at it or literally just look at it and start heating it up without having to shoot a laser. It’s pretty cracked
wait when was stated that shibai created the universe?
all amado said was shibai ascended.
Databooks. This is about Shibai:
www.reddit.com/r/Boruto/comments/1agfekh/otsutsuki_lore/
Remember guys, this is one of the weakest Versions of Superman.
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But supes powers being chakra based is being super wired but fair
Yeah had to do it for power equalization
@@sageofthickcalves ok fair broski
Bro does not like the Otsutsuki. 💀
Honestly I just wanted to talk about Superman 💀
3:59 so Superman wins😅
"Omnipotence" in a 4 d verse means nothing. Buu was omnipotent in DBZ. Alovenas was omnipotent but Ruphas beat her. Friggin Luffy was called omnipotent in the manga. The term means nothing without feats.
Having an ability called omnipotence that literally is stated to allow the user to “make anything the user wants real”, and being hyperbolically called omnipotent are two different things. The Naruto databooks call Kakashi omnipotent lmao.
Shibai doesn't count we don't know to much
We know he’s 4D and created a universe
This guy a dunce thinkin Tonari or anyone in Naruto verse is Moon lvl, let alone Universal goofy ahhbum
Saying Toneri isn’t moon level when he actively drug the moon through space for thousands of miles is insane 💀 Kaguya also was capable of destroying a dimension with a star and planetary body. There’s absolutely no debate about solar system + Narutoverse. The point it gets questionable is when you get to the universal levels.
Dude all you're doing is glazing, you're showing no proof to your calculations.
"Solar system level for sending the moon at earth" and "800 million times FTL for traveling the DC universe."
Where is the Scaling?
Superman speed calc:
Answer to Exactly how fast was Superman going when he traveled from the edge of the universe to Earth? by Umbralux
www.quora.com/Exactly-how-fast-was-Superman-going-when-he-traveled-from-the-edge-of-the-universe-to-Earth/answer/Umbralux?ch=15&oid=238489271&share=3f9302cc&srid=zXV2H&target_type=answer
The Toneri feat is high planetary, but he’s called the “strongest enemy” they’d faced to that point, which is why I said he can be high balled to solar system level. Here’s the planetary calc:
vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Kepekley23/Naruto_Revisions:_Toneri_vs._Madara_-_Dawn_of_the_Discussion_Rules_(5-C_to_5-B_Toneri_Calc)
For future reference, before saying someone is glazing, do at least 2 minutes of google research to see if those calcs exist, especially when the creator whose content you’re watching says, “People have calced this feat to _____.”
why are we bullying like this, Sage? hmm? whyy
Just wanted an excuse to talk about Superman tbh
He stomps nextttt
Considering peak human with peak human iq can beat him then he is cooked. The moment you add antifeats clark is cooked, he is the punch bag of DC comic. This matters, unfortunately. Mindcontrol especialy, the guy trackrecord with it is horrible, Kawaki can swit places with Batman like he did with Boruto and win.
Bro... you just going to casually say that Sasuke is a Solar System + being? when? how?
@@DrippUP he’s able to handle Kaguya level threats, and Kaguya is a solar system + level being by virtue of being able to destroy her dimension that houses at least one star and one planetary body.
@@sageofthickcalves Sasuke hasnt beaten ANY otsutsuki by himself. He needed Naruto to fight Kaguya and Momoshiki..pretty sure he ran from Kinshiki, Ishiki slammed him..I dont remember the Toneri fight much been a while since i seen that film, i know he handled the meteor.. Urushiki isnt even Canon i dont believe.
When has Sasuke dealt with a Solar System + being on his own and came out victorious?
and he also lost to the 10 tails tree people.
@@DrippUP Sasuke is stated to be able to handle Kaguya level threats by himself. Argue with the author brother
@@sageofthickcalves so we're taking statements over feats now? He has not shown this ability yet and hes fought many otsutsuki.
@@DrippUP There are no feats that contradict this scaling. They actually back it up. Sasuke was able to stalemate Kinshiki while at less than 1/3 chakra, and Kinshiki is considered a Kaguya-level threat. So he has dealt with Kaguya-level opponents on his own. Since Kaguya is bare minimum solar system level, Sasuke is as well.
you probably should've used timmverse superman this one just stomps so hard it isn't funny
I was thinking about JLAS Superman, but he’s too weak
@@sageofthickcalvessuper man has done beyond universal feats than shibai and I can give you
@@sageofthickcalves1 super man has fought people like darkseid who can threaten the multiverse
He has busted through the physical and metaphysical form of phantom stranger the same phantom stranger that him and spectre can destroy creation he was stated to be a threat to all of existence he has knocked out god brainiac so hard that every version throughout the multiverse felt it
@@EdehEmmanuel-d7r yeah it’s only New 52 feats, so the only one of those that would apply is the Brainiac one, but it’s not super consistent with his typical scaling, which is why I brought up him not knowing his limits.
@@sageofthickcalves new 52 super man has done some crazy feats like damaging phantom stranger and he has fought angel creatures that killed fifith dimensional imps
😂😂 bro conic book feats for a superhero is overpowerd
How is this even a question 🤣
Just wanted to talk about Superman lmao
I feel this video was a waste of time because everyone will have superman because they want their border line mary sue superhero to be above everything in fiction
Yeah I’m planning on doing a Superman vs Saitama collab, so I wanted to just introduce my channel to the Superman algorithm before that
Why not hogoromo lol ?
He’s too weak
@do you have any proof prime alive jenchuriki hogoromo or chakra ghost hogoromo wouldn’t be strong enough? Because we see he’s able to beat someone stronger than him and his brother.
@ With just half of hogoromo’s chakra sasuske and naruto were relative to sakura who could damage an exponentially stronger and faster kaguya than ever before. Implying hogoromo with both halfs could do the same thing
@@_JonJon_ he doesn’t have the feats these other characters have, and I don’t want to dabble in head canon
@ Bet
i’m late
Never too late
Shibai doesn't even have feats or scaling...
He’s stated to have created a universe and have all of the Otsusuki abilities, including the ones the cyborgs have
This is still a nonsense matchup. Nerfing superman to this degree
unfortunately urashiki makes light work of him😔
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I hope you are joking.
Momo isnt universal small star lvl max and kaguya is large planetary max bcz naruto and sasuke is star lvl and shibei didnt created the verse he became a transcended being by eat chakra fruits and at most galaxy lvl 😑💀
@@mohammadzayad9347 Momoshiki created a universe that parallels ours. That takes multi-galaxy levels of energy output at bare minimum
@@sageofthickcalves Just to get bulled and one shotted by a 12 year old with a normal Jutsu not shinjutsu with massive chakra and power drained Naruto and sasuke with momo also having 50 % of kurama's chakra plus drugs and where didn't you get the universe statement it haven't shown and mentioned in the story 💀
@@mohammadzayad9347 You mean he got fatigued by Naruto and Sasuke, and then hit with an attack made 99.9% of Naruto’s chakra?
The Boruto movie novel (which Kishimoto and Kodachi worked on) states that Momoshiki was drawing energy from a parallel universe he created. We then see the universe he created in the movie.
@@sageofthickcalves The movie was hot garbage and it's not even canon and later they bring back momshiki in the show by removing this non sense powers and scaling, plus in the manga or anime the writer or other never mentioned that parallel universe power absorbing or creating thing , and no other RUclipsrs other than you stated that momo had that power and never scaled him to universal, no hate just saying. Naruto protected the village when momo attacked then gets his power absorbed by 50 % to be precise then proceed to press momo to fuse in base after the fusion than again kcm Naruto and sasuke violated his bum ass, remind you sasuke used his space which consumes a massive amount of his chakra took multiple people through the portal to momshiki's planet he was fatigued too after all that when momo out of frustration ate the haft nine tails powered chakra pills and still got one shotted by a weak kid boruto by a rasengan powered by a very fatigued 10 hp Naruto without kurama's chakra, yeah either you are wrong or fatigued 10 hp Naruto without kurama's chakra is multiversal stronger than Mui Goku ☠️
@@mohammadzayad9347 the movie and novel are 100% canon. Kodachi, the guy who wrote the first 53 chapters of Boruto, was the primary writer
why did you even bother doing this video lol?
Wanted to talk about Superman 💀
@@sageofthickcalves Fair it's just why bother making it a discussion because everyone will be like "It's superman doesn't matter what it's superman he will always beat everyone and everything"lolol
@@Redoren966 yeah I’m doing a Saitama vs Superman vid soon so I wanna get geared up for that
Superman wins 🏆 😎 💪 👏