Hello everyone, I wanted to leave this comment here because I'm not proud of my phrasing with this moment at 17:33 Any way how you look at it, this comment was ignorant and stupid, but it was not my intention to say every single country in the Middle East has streets in poor conditions. I know there are paved roads and it's not streets made of gravel. It was a stupid thing to say, as I was thinking only of Middle Eastern countries that are or were in military conflicts similar to how Kahndaq is under Intergang's control. Secondly, as a kid I used to skate, and my arch-nemesis was always some tiny pebble, stone, or grain of sand that would send me flying off that board. This is no excuse for my poor phrasing, but just another reason as to why I left this in as well as the comment about the skateboard wheels. I'm not American, but I do know that the UAE has some of the most technologically advanced and clean cities in the world, and using the term "Middle East" lumping that in with all the other countries is unfair and offensive. I sincerely apologize to those of you who took offense at the comment, it was not my intent, and going forward I will not be as thickheaded as I was here. Thank you. edit: someone mentioned in the comments that Black Adam's wife from the flashback is not played by the same actress as the Adriana character. This was a stupid mistake, ha. Thank you, again.
Not to be too nitpicky, but your comment about that place "looking like china" was kinda weird too. Like its a couple of hills and a rice field bro, there are plenty of places in Asia and around the world that look like that
The Rock has a clause in his contract that he can’t lose any fights & has a $20,000,000 salary. In contrast, Robin Williams had a clause in his contracts that the studio must employ at least 10 homeless people wherever they were filming, and took pay cuts to work with other actors he wanted. The Rock’s ego is his biggest enemy.
@@willster2967 How so? I get Vin diesel, he's the main character and you can clearly tell Dom is meant to be superman driving a charger, I also get Staham and the Rock not wanting to just be punching bags for Dominic Toretto or and wanting their characters looking strong in Hobbs and Shaw, how is that corny? Diesel owns F&F they're his movies
@@envi2273 Because they're three insecure men who think that their images will be tarnished by appearing weak in a movie. It's the juvenile mindset of an 11 year old boy, and it's absolutely pathetic for a 52 year old man.
He tried to replicate the Iron Man effect (small character becoming an epicenter of the cinematic universe). But he forgot about SEVERAL variables that made this possible.
Yeah RDJ being there from Day 1 was a big catalyst. He FELT like the beating center of the MCU from the outset of the very first film. Also RDJ was a damn-near flawless casting for Iron Man, most people see the character and the actor as interchangeable
The fact i thought Black Adam was gonna be a Villain Origin Movie but instead it became the Rock with Superpowers Who wants to fight Superman instead of Shazam lmao
I knew once I seen The rock was gonna play BA, one of my fav villains that it wasn’t gonna be good unfortunately. Like why can’t they just cast ppl who actually look like the comic book characters?
@@LarfIeeze Because having well known celebrities on-board a certain brand will rake in more cash regardless of said brand's popularity or obscurity, according to Hollywood's logic. Granted though, it has worked sometimes.
Robert Downey Jr was seen as washed up, Chris Evans was begged for, Chris Hemsworth biggest movie was "Cabin In The Woods" and I don't think anyone in the US knew who Tom Holland was. (Also, Mark Ruffalo was the first choice for The Hulk, but the studio thought it needed more star power and they went with Ed Norton) What I'm saying is Early Marvel did get it, and WB/DC still don't Though their animation dept and Netherealm studios absolutely do. @@darkskull1982
The “no losing” clause in contracts is wild. Charlie Cox’s Daredevil loses 80% of his fights unless it’s against normal thugs, and even then he receives injuries. Losing, coming back with more of a plan and fighting smarter is what makes a hero. Those adjustments is what builds the character up. Dwayne is just so terrified of looking weak, even in a fictional universe.
It's such an egotistical thing. No famous all-time great actor or actress has ever such a wild clause. Jackie-Chan, Arnold Sch or Denzel Washington don't have such things, and he thinks such a clause will make him what? More of a star?
That sounds a lot like a pro wrestling thing. That is to say, failure to separate "character" from "actor". Wrestlers like Hulk Hogan and Sean Michaels were famous for either refusing to lose or adding stipulations, trying to protect "their character". That's at least a little understandable, because "The Rock" is Dwane Johnson's OC, not something Vince McMahon owns, so it makes sense that he'd be protective of that. Black Adam is not his character.
The worst part is that, a lot of characters in Superhero movies do get their shit beaten. If we talk about DC, the Batman was beaten, not to a pulp, but intelectually so, when Riddler's actual plan was put through. If we say an anti-hero being beaten, Deadpool took a beaten a lot. Being beaten doesn't make a character weak, what makes them weak id that if they don't get up. Hell, Adam could've taken a beaten when he had no power, but had to power through to save the female character or the child, and get beaten up because he doesn't have his strength, that would've been interesting
Oh yea that guy *snaps fingers* yea yea uhhh *snaps fingers* it's on the tip of my tongue.... uhhh, oh! yea Kevin Hart's friend that guy from that movie
you rewrite everything or most of something when your writing gets to the part that would logically result with him losing. not ideal but only way I can think of to have creative freedom and not compromise at the same time. when you change stuff it can work but retconned so it feels off and unbelievable. but if you think about it, with a meta understanding of said clause, you could have some pretty intense setups for other characters by developing them a bit, and then with the audience knowing that if they ever run into theRock they would just die, it creates a twisted tension for sub characters from the main character 😅 i think this has been done before a lot so its not new but for the writers trying to not make something terrible its the best option most likely the point of the clause is ego related, but the loop hole is to make characters people actually care about instead and the risk of loss makes them more interesting. of course this is still a terrible scenario but a bit of creativity can make it work, the real issue is this kind of concept existing in a super hero universe, and one that already has been established and on a 'villian?' so this kind of invincibility would just stagnate any future of the series which is the real issue imo, not a movie but the cinematic universe it's trying to build. especially when you can't just send said invincible character to another world to be absent from everything so there's actual potential for growth like they did with the hulk
Prison scene in Furious Seven or Fate of the Furious where the rock's Hobbs vs Statham's Shaw is the best example iirc The fight doesn't resolved because there's another bigger problem
The rock can’t act if he’s not the rock, Tom hardy doesn’t have to be Venom to act well, you really can’t compare the 2 cause Hardy has RANGE in his acting
@@DaWhisperyou say that like it wasn’t less than two years ago and people had been talking major shit about him prior to that for his pussy ass contracts for Fast
Probably because Black Adam isn't widely known. I only knew of him because of the Injustice games which is how I was aware he had electricity like Shazam but boiling him down to 'evil superman' is easy to understand.
He actually has SOME of the powers that MIMIC Superman; only the source is magical. He's also not an evil Superman - he's an Evil SHAZAM. Wherein Superman's powers are a natural biological function of his alien heritage, SHAZAM and Black Adam had to be vested with theirs. So I'd argue that by and large, while they may be similar in some respects (and since they're powers are magical in nature, they do get an advantage in battles against a Kyrptonian) Superman as it stands in the longrun is going to be superior. [They have the powers that were stolen from Gods & Champions = Clark is literally descended from a Kryptonian God; and an actual God himself in all but canon acknowledgement, so long as he's under the yellow sun] * It has been at least semi acknowledged that he's factually immortal...
I mean he isn’t completely wrong Black Adam has a good amount of Superman’s moveset but he is under a misconception that Black Adam is a evil Superman when he is actually a evil Shazam who the wizard wrongly picked as his champion. Which is why in the first movie he spend centuries on picking the perfect vessel as he didn’t want a repeat of what happened with Black Adam if he picked wrong again.
Clip over to a scene from the Superman Shazam movie where they fight Black Adam and Superman hits atom with heat vision and cold breath and when asked “what was that” Superman respond with “another power you don’t have.” You wanna see Superman Vs Black Adam check the trailer for DC Online and watch Superman tank Black Adam’s punches, grab his fist to crush it, proceeding with heat vision to the face killing him. (It was a no holds barred fight Trailer of a possible fight to the death future and Wonder Woman had just been killed while Superman was charging in the sun for a while and he arrived angry.)
@@ricniks4619 In the comics, it's actually his nephew who was picked as champion, as he had a pure heart, but Teth, cunning and opportunistic person that he is, kills his nephew and steals his powers. This shows how far removed Black Adam's morals are from Superman, and how he is the antithesis to Billy's pure hearted Shazam.
Superman killing Zod was the right choice imo. He needed a reason to decide to not commit murder ever again. He basically killed the last of his species as a last resort to save an innocent family. Buuuuut, him killing a terrorist in the beginning of Batman V Superman was quite Stupid and made Zod's death completely unnecessary 😑.
You know what's funny. If he had patience, black adam couldve been a main dceu threat. What Adam needed was build up, rock just wanted to jump right into it.
@@Iianatorhe’s literally fought every superhero on earth at once except batman superman and ww and was winning until shazam changed the word that gave him his power
I remember wondering why they didn’t get an Egyptian or middle eastern guy to play Adam, then I remembered Dwayne has this magic ability called “I’m the executive producer”
I don't really mind the ethnicity, but he really doesn't look like Adam. I get that they cut the elf ears (though that's a damn crime) but c'mon, no slick hair nor iconic evil imp eyebrows?
@@vanillabatcave5677 with all these characteristics, if handled right Black Adam can easily become an iconic character, IMO. Also with the rise of characters like Omni man and Homelander.
Agreed I lost all respect for the rock after that. How much of a narcissist could you possibly be to think your comic arch-nemesis isn't good enough for you?
For real. Like that’s literally Black Adam’s main rival. That’s like taking Superman and making his rival The Joker or better yet taking Lex Luthor and making him Batman’s villain.
Levi was right. There was no finished cut half ready and just being in a drawer, waiting around. So much work had to be done... I don't like him, but he was honest and they hated him for it. Lunacy
People weren't mad because he was honest people got mad because of how douchey he got at the end and disrespectful like he didn't need to say "I'm waiting for The Snyder cut too haha just kidding I'm not because it doesn't exist" classic example of when attempting to be funny/charming backfires
@@eneyavorodecky I'm american and i couldn't careless about levi's joke. All these snyder stans are freaking out over anyone who says something about snyder that could possibly be interpreted as negative.
In the Shazam guy’s defense, he wasn’t wrong in saying that as far as he knew, the Snyder Cut didn’t exist. It didn’t. Hence why Snyder used a tens of millions to finish his cut. It wasn’t completed.
Yeah, I think some people forget this. Snyder was forced to leave the film midway through production to be with his family during a tragedy. The movie wasn't near completion, if you cobbled together everything he had then it was maybe half a movie. That's why they had to bring in a new director to finish it. There wasn't a film to be seen from just what Snyder had shot. After they decided to do the Snyder cut it required 3 more months of filming and 70 million dollars to complete.
The fact that his contract states he can never be defeated, ever, ruined it. His character literally wanted to kill kids, and he's gunna be an anti-hero now? Its fucking Cruella all over again.
"Black Adam has all the powers of Superman" Literally the only powers they share is flight and super strength, which a lot of DC heroes have. The only reason to say this is to purposefully draw parallels between the two characters to set up an eventual fight. The rock's ego was on full display with this film and it's marketing.
Honestly when he mentioned that I just know it's completely a lie because for example here's an actual power for Superman that they promoted as a new power "eating really fast" and also you know lack of research.
@@campaingsosa300He technically was never fired. His contract expired after Justice League and the negotiations to renew it broke down in 2018, with the relationship between him and the studio apparently being so bad that WB refused to let his version of the character return (the plan being to use the Flash film to replace him with Supergirl). After Discovery bought WB and the old leadership was gone, the Rock was able to get Cavil for the film. The interim heads in charge of DC films as a division of Warner Bros (before Gunn and Safran were given control of DC Studios as a separate division), paid Henry I believe $500k in total for cameos in both Black Adam and the Flash (the latter of which was cut; it would’ve been an alternate ending that showed that both he and Supergirl now coexisted in the DCEU) and verbally promised to develop Man of Steel 2 (even though there were two Superman movies in very early development, including Gunn’s), but they never gave him a new contract. When Gunn and Safran took over, they decided it was best to reboot the vast majority of the DCEU, which included Superman (which, in my opinion, was definitely the right call). So, Henry was never fired because he was never rehired for the job after his contract expired in 2017. His inclusion in Black Adam was a result of the Rock’s ego and the studio’s attempt to goose the box office revenue (hence why they were actively leaking his appearance).
@@campaingsosa300 They said it was because of the Ego of the Rock. Probably Dwayne Johnson was afraid if Henry Cavill continued as Superman he'd be overshadowed by Cavill.
“ironically” the movie DID make money, just not as much as they hoped for, and “ironically” Pierce Brosnan blocking releases due to political views in key countries contributed to more of a loss than anything the Rock did. y’all are so unaware and openly show your own ignorance so proudly it’s comical.
@@whosDaBun the rock is not interested in making good movies. If he was he wouldn't have contracts saying he has to have fights that are at least equal to everyone else. The thing that makes a hero interesting is overcoming weakness. Getting beat down and overcoming it. The rock never shows any weakness in movies because it's too important that he look cool all the time. People wanted to see BA vs Shazam. But the rock didn't think that Shazam was a good enough character for him to fight which is why he set it up for him vs Superman. He didnt give a sh-- that BA is Shazams main nemesis. That movie probably would have been interesting. Also he has to be the good guy. Black Adam is at best a villain that occasionally does some good. But he is still a villain. but the rock for all his "I'm not a hero" schtick acts as a hero throughout the whole movie. You can't point to him killing people as him being bad either. Most of the DC heroes have been killing people. Maybe soon the rock can attempt acting. I would look forward to it. I honestly think people are getting tired of him doing the same thing in every movie, it's boring
@@mahrimen bro idk why you’re just straight up lying and showing that you don’t know anything about comics, and you felt the need to write a novel to show that. Rock is a massive Black Adam fan, and WB has been mismanaging DCs Ips for years. not gonna argue with someone who has such little idea of how the real world works 💀
That ironically also was one of this movies biggest problems because since they got someone famous to play Kent, you saw his face in 96 percent of the time
I mean not a lot of people knew who The Rock was outside of wrestling until he entered movies he was just "Famous wrestler". So a lot of people are just seeing his true colors bleed through.
Imo it was the Hawaii fires. A lot of people watch comic movies but not that many are deep into it, his dip in popularity is far beyond just comic fans
Those clauses that they cant lose a fight in those F&F movies is....pathetic. You talk about a dangerously huge ego mixed with shallow artistic merit and insecurity.
One of the problems is that Johnson put in his contract that Adam never looses a fight which would've lost the movie money because villains & heroes alike loose in their fights.
@@faresz8928 it did but that was mainly b/c it was just a bad movie not b/c the character itself is bad. Black Adam is Shazam's most iconic villain and would have brought more people to see the movie than just random gods that nobody knows
@@darkJman77 that's my point, though. neither black Adam nor Shazam are actually iconic or recognizable by the general public. I bet most people , at best, would view them as Superman clones, another product of comic books derivative nature. The Rock is more recognizable and culturally significant than both Shazam and black adam combined. Yet his involvement with black adam couldn't save it. (Although The Rock had been producing mediocre slop for a while by then, so "the Rock fatigue" along side superhero fatigue and general lack of faith may have caused the flop) considering the rock's goofy, no losing, contract clause, and how mediocre at best both movies ended up being (didnt watch the shazam sequel) , nothing suggests that this hypothetical Adam v Shazam movie would've been any better.
There was a comic I saw recently of Black Adam floating above a bunch of villains while at a meeting table, one of them points it out and asks why he is just hovering above the ground. Adam says that it’s not due to his ego but because the literal gods that power him refuse to be at a level of elevation lower than a mortal being. So much depth to be taken from his powers and strained connection to the wizard but they just wanted to make a movie about a Superman that murders people.
No wonder bill batson was the better choice. Still walks same ground as normal folk cause its convenient and does not make himself look like a complete tool. Black Adam turely fits well with The Rocks ego.
@@brunowillich1837 yeah they lost the plot in batman v superman in terms of "wait does colleteral damage here include people?" like i forgave the first suprman movie for the zod moment because it fits zods character to make superman do something agasint his morals to make him suffer for forcing him to loose. but all the times aftyer that w-a-s- -b-u-ll
Im not a huge Zachery Levi fan at all but man i do feel bad for him for how this went down. It seems he genuinely cared for making an enjoyable Shazam series and was screwed over completely (especially since the version of Shazam 2 we got was pretty mediocre compared to the first film)
i don’t really care about the dude but i see a ton of comments here saying they despise him. are they just snyder fans mad about his harmless remarks ??
Remember when you were a kid and you would play superheroes with your friends. There will always be that one kid tries to make himself the main character and every time there’s a fight or something, they always runoff to the side and have some sort of “moment” and all alone and bruting. That’s how I describe the black adam movie.
I remember trying to play Pokemon cards with that person, in one battle sweeping their team, only for them to eventually keep brining new cards from out of their house, and after that brining an entire box of trading cards out so they could win against my team of 6. I stopped playing with them completely with anything, for it was never a straight fight, or fun- they always a had to try SOMETHING to win completely.
I wanna add as a wresting fan that almost right after this the rock tried to basically do the same thing in WWE, he made a big power play to be a TKO board member then tried to push his way past the royal rumble winner and the most anticipated story conclusion of the last decade to set up a "dream" match between him and Roman Reigns at wrestlemania and it was only through A LOT of fan backlash that that didn't happen (wether that was always the plan or not who knows, its just a good thing to add to the story)
Yep. I was following this too and was also pretty disgusted. It became obvious at that he has one MO- go in and make himself the absolute star, irrespective of the cost.
@@C280SAnd the pivot turned out to be the best thing to happen. Last thing we needed was another year of Cody crying every week about his daddy and his story. Rock made the build-up interesting this year. People are already getting bored of Cody and chanting We Want Roman.
Wait, that's why the Snyder-Chuds were mad at Zachary Levi? He was 100% right, there wasn't some cut ready to be released, it cost $70 million dollars in post-production to complete, and it *did* require reshoots (relatively minimal reshoots, but still). These people threw a tantrum because he explained reality to them.
A majority of the movie was finished. People who worked on the movie still had all of their work saved. It cost more to finish it because it's what it should have been. You expect them to complete it for nothing?
@unclehollywoodshouseofther995 LOL, no, and that's not what I said. I said what Zachary Levi said about the Snyder cut not existing was true; Snyder fans thought there was a finished directors cut that WB was sitting on, Levi told them it didn't exist, they got mad at Levi. Do you think a movie that needs $70 million in post-production is finished?
Out of the Bond's I always found Brosnan the "Ryu" of them all, basically good in all categories whereas others excelled in certain areas (example, Dalton - perfect look, the "killer/assassin" Bond).
Zachary Levi was right. The Snyder cut didn't exist at the time. The movie would need to be completed to exist. Which WB obliged after the overwhelming demand for it.
He wasn't lying he just attacked people's hope and that's a mistake. He needs to stroke movements like that, not try to be the one to step on the flame and mock people for believing in it. I'm sure it was a learning experience for him.
@@Vespyr_it was virtually unheard of to do something like the Snyder-cut at the time. He was also probably assured it wasn’t happening. The studio didn’t want to do it until they saw enough dollar signs, and when they didn’t want to do it, they probably didn’t want the actors trying to help bring out this version of a movie that didn’t do as well as they wanted, and messes with some continuity that had since been established
@@jarrodoakley6911 Yes but he should have leaned more into the "I'm a fan I would love a Snyder cut, but I haven't heard of anything like that." instead of just flat out telling people not to believe in something. Some humility when it comes to hope is a good thing. Share in their fandom, don't crush it. He had nothing to gain from that.
@@Vespyr_ unless the Snydercut didn’t beat the odds and actually get released. The safe bet was that it wasn’t. Then if it didn’t come out, he would be honest with the fans, not getting their hopes up about something he was very sure wasn’t happening, and would have been a good company man by supporting what was then the vision of the franchise’s future. And seeing that he was one of the few established characters who were getting a continuation of their franchise, would have been a good place to be
Rock needs to stop acting, dude plays the same role in every movie it's annoying and also if you don't ever wanna lose you probably shouldn't play the villain of Shazam.
I guess by that logic Samuel L. Jackson should have stopped acting? Jack Nicholson? Mark Wahlberg? Morgan Freeman? A lot of actors basically play themselves. Not everyone can be a Johnny Depp.
Samuel jackson has played plently, and i mean plenty of excelent roles in which he is not just the hahaha funny man. The rock plays the same genric heroic good guy in every god damn movie @@loregasmic
@@loregasmic Archetype =/= Acting mannerism. SLJ has played, good guys, bad guys, support, funny guys, mentors, for crying out loud, the man played a black samurai on an anime! AN ANIME. The Rock's unwillingness to play anything but the "The Big Guy Hero" makes him one note. And we know the man can play the "heel" he show that on WWE(F)
The problem with Black Adam is the same with Harley Quinn. These characters don’t really make a lot of sense outside of the reasons behind their creation. Black Adam is the antithesis of Shazam, Harley Quinn was manipulated and groomed by the Joker. Having the first films featuring these characters without that being established leaves out a great part of their characterization. Unless you have excellent screenwriters that can actually make them compelling without their established canon and source material they aren’t interesting ( Joker being an excellent example of how a good screenwriter can pull this off )
That’s true, although I think Harley Quinn (being a Batman character) is well known enough that she could carry on with minimal association to the joker; both Black Adam and Shazam were more obscure before the movies came out
@@mjade1097 I generally think she's better and more entertaining as Joker's partner in crime. I was never a fan of Margot Robbie's Harley or the effect her version of the character seemingly had on the general perception of Harley Quinn and her modern depictions. I liked clown themed mallet using ditzy villain Harley more than the modern daddy issues punk girl boss who don't need no man with a baseball bat.
He doesn’t understand the character and the comics Black Adam is from. If he wants Black Adam character to be successful, he should first swallow his pride and be a side character in Shazam. But then again, Dwayne doing that is like asking a fish to climb a tree.
I kind of wish dr fate didnt do that set up. it wouldve felt like less of a joke set up if he's like "Okay where's the prisoner" and black adam just has a short pause "he didn't make it". Or the Rock could've just kept his damn face straight.
Ironically in his older movies he used to allow for more freedom from the writers. Things such as him losing a fight were fine like in Get Smart he gets whooped by Steve Carrell. I miss that Rock.
In his older movies, he was still positioning himself as an actor after his transition from wrestling. Once he became a big movie star, however, that’s when the ego takes over.
Hawkman and Hawkgirl don't CONSCIOUSLY reincarnate themselves though. It's a curse as far as I know about their characters. Not an ability they have any actual control over - and part of that is that they're star-crossed and doomed to keep reincarnating; and be fucked over each time. Because someone didn't want them to be together. (Which is why I liked in the JLA cartoon that Shiara found a romance with Jon Stewart that broke that trend) Also, it's not exactly fun to die. Doctor Fate would naturally want to save his friend from that.
I love how against killing SAVAGE Hawkman is. In the New 52, his intro into the JL was him walking up to a meeting with blood and meat all over his morningstar. HIS WEAPON IS A LITERAL MORNING STAR; It's a literal club with spikes, and you're telling me, that dude is against killing?
@@scp-507 The majority of the movie are scenes with different ratios or different angles from what we saw in the Josstice League. Then he filmed the Knightmare and Green Lantern/Martian Manhunter scene.
@@StopCallingMeShirley1180 the absence of a redundant 5 minute epilogue at the very end doesn’t render the remaining 98% of a movie unfinished, which is what Levi’s original comment actually meant.
Rock going above people's head to get his own way really is becoming a regular thing for him, his obsessing over controlling and owning everything is very weird
The thing that gets me the most is The Rock saying Black Adam is basically a dark reflection of Superman and has all his powers. Black Adam has nothing to do with Superman! He doesn’t have his powers and isn’t a dark reflection of him… if anything he’s a dark reflection of Shazam/Captain Marvel. I genuinely believe Dwayne thought he came up Black Adam’s character on his own and didn’t even bother to research who he was playing. Black Adam is a very interesting and underrated character in the DC Universe and this movie would’ve finally given him recognition and the spotlight he deserved. But of course Warner Bros and Dwayne Johnson just had to butcher it for everyone.
@@venerablewu8744however Superman’s counterparts are either a dude so petty he’s cure cancer and give it back or a living super computer with trauma or general zod or bizarro is a bit off
@@venerablewu8744you can't determine what's 'Good/Evil' in its absolute form of truth you superficial _____. also, that's not what makes Superman stand out, & your conclusion is just pure misconceived strawman.
“Black Adam is like a Superman who kills.” Oh, you mean like Superman in Man of Steel? I know this is a small point, and very early into the video, but I just thought the idea of marketing him like that was so funny.
Also, we're a lil burnt out by "A Superman who kills". In recent years, we've had Homelander, Omni-Man, Brightburn and multiple evil versions of Superman himself such as the Injustice games/comics version. A lot of comic fans been reacting fondly to return of wholesome hopeful, inspiring Superman such as Tyler Hoechlin in Superman & Lois, the animated show My Adventures with Superman, and looking forward to this new Gunn Superman movie. "Black Adam is like a Superman who kills" isn't the exciting fresh thing that Dwayne and his buddies seemed to think it was.
@carn9507 true but then again you wouldn't really expect a multi millionaire block buster actor who figuratively strokes himself 24/7 to know anything more than the surface level of a DC character who isn't one of the main three.
He was marketing an obscure comic book character to get normies into theaters, which of course very likely won't have a point of reference, so he went with Superman who kills. Simple enough for the average audience member to understand.
You know that WB royally messed up when in the past 10 years B-C list characters like The Guardians, Ant-Man, and even Deadpool became bigger household names than the company name 'DC'.
Captain America & Hulk are the only characters from the MCU that were a household names, until they brought Spiderman in for Civil War. Thor & Iron Man both had cartoons in the 60s or 70s. But nobody (other than comic readers, obvs) knew who Black Widow nor Hawkeye were, until Avengers.
Was Zachary Levi even wrong about the Snyder cut not existing at that point in time? If I recall correctly they had to film new scenes for the finished product and was it more about allowing Snyder to finish his creative vision than some magic cut sitting in a vault somewhere.
It would’ve been nice to see him establish his rule over Kandaq by force in his first movie. Actually seeing a villain being successful in his own movie would’ve been great to see.
Fr. I honestly expected that when I first saw Maleficent. Yes, the idea of her being antihero and being a victim is okay, but she’s called Mistress of all Evil in Sleeping Beauty in 1959. Angelina Jolie’s Maleficent feels so diluted to me.
He never ruled it by force though..he’s what doom is to latveria and the people of khandaq are usually shown loving Adam. Most people complaining here have not read the source material and are just using this as an opportunity to bash Dwayne, the dc universe was going to be rebooted anyway Gunn had been hired for 6 months before black Adam’s release, this video is just nothing but misinformation 😂
I think this movie shows the difference between a *passion* project and a *vanity* project. Having your character never lose a fight (and thus never creating stakes, resulting in a boring movie) is pretty vain. Black Adam should have been the villain of Shazam 2. Maybe Billy could remind him of his son and soften him from a villain to an anti hero and *then* he gets a solo film with the JSA. 🤷♀
I mean it wasnt a fail for WWE. He’s still on the board of directors at TKO and his childhood friend Nick Khan is still President of the WWE. So Dwayne’s still in a pretty good power position.
It's so fascinating how badly DC lost the superhero movie war. Like it wasn't even a war, more like small resistance in one small village of the Marvel country.
At the start? Yeah, DC was caught like a deer staring at your headlights. But towards the end, DC's movies like Joker, the Flash or even Black Adam here, were better IMO.
Dwayne is the biggest mark of them all. He is such a mark that he brought that prowrestling mentality in his movies. Like who would want to watch a movie where the protagonist always wins?
Part of it was people are just sick of the rock playing the rock in everything and secondly bc he refused to actually put his ego aside Black Adam couldnt be an actual character it was just the rock living an even bigger power fantasy
I watched this with my dad, he just turned 70. As soon as it ended he was like, "So, the Rock got a paycheck to stand in front of a green screen and make faces? I don't think he actually performed any of the action scenes."
The main disrespect is DC not allowing the writers of the animated movies that has been writing exceptional and cohesive stories for years, write the actual movies. Instead choosing to use writers and producers who just saw it as another movie. The writers and producers of the animated movies has been at ot for years and are true fans of the comic. And are the only ones that tell a actual proper story.
If the DCEU was as good as the DCAU we wouldn't be talking about Marvel today. The DCAU is the peak of comic book adaptations. It's better than any live action film in my opinion
@@callmejacob3234 Ernie Altbacker and Mairghread Scott, would be good examples. They were screenplay writers that adapted the comics into Dark Apokolipse War in the DCAU.
30:18 you know what i miss the days when heroes didn’t kill people. i’m so tired of edgy hero movies that just end up being “it’s okay to kill people if they’re extras :)”
Either Black Adam would win and they’d team up not long after or they’d team up before the fight even finished probably. Would’ve been a huge letdown regardless and Cavill fans would’ve felt cheated still.
@LTake335 just watch superman/shazam the return of black Adam lol. And if past comics help any, superman would be handicapped considering one of his only other weaknesses besides kryptonite is magic which is basically black Adam's whole arsenal
@@ganggarr It would just be a less interesting version of Batman v Superman. Like, two invulnerable people with no weaknesses hitting each other multiple times, and then teaming up by the end after fighting to a draw and facing a bigger foe.
Idk how anyone else feels but I feel like a contract to never lose gives the same picture of kids playing heroes and monsters and the kid yelling "you can't hit me!! Im suppose to be invincible!!" Kinda funny ngl
How come he doesn't put his wwe heel persona in his movies? Imagine him beating Clarke with a weightlifting belt with "Martha" written on it,like he did to Cody?
This, the man has shown that can play the heel, hell, it's a role he excels at. But for reason he refuses to do that, and prefer to be the babyface or at best a "edgy" babyface.
@@anibalubilla5689 ironic all, it's the kids Film "the gameplan" that is the closest to his heel persona, he plays a cocky asshole who gets his comeupoance in the end.
Black Adam: when a film tries so hard to convince you pay attention to a morally grey character that’s played by a man whose ego contradicts the universe he’s playing in
Dr. Fate should have had his own film. I liked the assymetrical design because the idea of Fate in a multi-universe has to include assymetrical possibilities.
He tried to be Ryan and make dead pool but dead pool works because he genuinely loves comics so the movie isn’t a showcase of how awesome Deadpool and Ryan is but how awesome the world and characters around him are
I would bet money the fact that he is never once referred to as Black Adam anywhere until after the credits was specifically directed by Johnson, so that audiences would see him playing himself as a badass coolguy superhero as opposed to him stepping into the role of an already established character
Why do you think in the last few years they have been slowly turning Black Adam into an anti hero, it was because DC really thought Dwayne Jonson´s Black Adam would become iconic and change the way everyone looked at Black Adam, obviously that didn´t work out
@@troymcclure681 because Batman Vs superman was great movie, stop dick riding and go cry about it on whatever subreddit you Snyder fans use to glaze him, the guy's deconstruction of DC heroes shows how bad he is at making movies
@@shivill2236 Oh yeah that's right. He was so expensive they didn't bother to bring him back for that one flashback episode with him and Arcee on Cybertron.
My friends and I began calling The Rock "The Modern-Day Steven Seagal" and I'm willing to bet most of you agree Edit: I hear all of your arguments, and I must admit: you're quite valid. But please, do not get harsh with this or throw around insults. Please.
I don't think anyone can be as bad as Steven Seagal. He was a pos his entire career to everyone he met and made sure his porn fantasy girl starred in every movie he made. I'm really glad people hate him now he really deserves it. I can't find one person who worked with him who says he was fun to work with. Even the girls said he was touchy and trying to add nudity to the scenes during filming. The Rock is an ego maniac who made too much money and is now completely corrupted by wealth and a feeling of superiority. He's not evil like Steven though
"Sometimes the world doesn't need a white knight, it needs something darker." Wow that's a great idea, if only there were a famous DC property that essentially built the company down to the name meaning Detective Comics who often shakes the definition of what it means to be a hero who can act as this Dark Knight. You could actually gain interesting insight on using underhanded tactics as a way of doing real good, instead of saying "i'm not a hero" or "his darkness makes him better" all the time.
The Rock was never going to be comfortable not being at the center or at least very near it of a cinematic universe, and considering the character he was playing I knew it was time to fasten my seat belt and brace for some fuck shit when he was cast
Dwayne really had absolutely zero idea who or what Black Adam is supposed to be: an obstical for Shazam to overcome, and the fact that Dwayne makes it an obligated that his character can't lose a fight is in direct violation of what a villian is supposed to be. Its as if Dwayne just wanted a stake in the DCEU for him to do whatever he wanted to it without actually carring what that stake was or entailed
And you know what that works for black adam. Even tho he can be considered a diet Dr. Doom, that added complexity makes him a more interesting character than just "superman that kills" or "evil shazam". But there's a reason why the rock didn't get his success off of writing.
@@YEs69th420Man id love for someone to consider mei their own shittier version of dr fucking doom. Id of course reevaluate my life first but hey still cool
If only The Rock wasn't the worst, he'd be the perfect actor to be a superhero/villain. Big, buff, on-screen charisma, the works. He can be a character in a superhero movie, but he sucks and flexes his star power over writers and directors and all it does is make the story worse. Also, green lantern gets his shit pushed in regularly, but powers through it. That's the "willpower" in action. He could fucking never. Any story fails when the main character doesn't lose. There's no stakes, he'll just fucking win. Unless it's a comedy where he plays a superhero who's a douchebag in a world that's otherwise completely normal, the Rock can't be a superhero.
You clearly don't know what "Invincible flow" is it's genre where the main character is invincible and it entertains the masses and makes good money aswell But what can you expect from someone who's an American
@@venerablewu8744 I just looked up "invincible flow" and got song lyrics. Then I tried "movie genre invincible flow" and got some other bullshit so it sounds like you're talking out of your ass. But what else can you expect from the French?
I like The Rock less and less. I already found anything he's starred in to be about him, rather than his character, and I do wonder how he kept getting more roles as they are all just him, playing him.
The whole thing about the Rock having a clause in his contract that he can never lose a fight is fucking ridiculous because he, as a pro wrestler, should know as well as anyone that having a babyface lose a fight is a great way to build drama and makes people love it more when they win in the end. And as a superhero fan. Like, Spider-Man 2 works so well because of the whole "Spider-Man no more!" element that he has to overcome. God mode is only fun for like five minutes, people want to see the good guy overcome a challenge, not just blast through every hypothetical obstacle like a killdozer through tissue paper.
The Rock just isn't that great of an actor. I feel like the only reason he did so well in movies was because he had already built up a dedicated fanbase in wrestling and because he came off as this super likeable guy. But you can't rely on the past forever and in recent years he's also done a lot of things that have ruined that likeable guy persona. So it's led to many fans turning on him.
I think he's descent at what he does but he doesn't have much range. He's boxed himself to doing the same role over and over. Maybe it's ego, maybe it's something else but Dwayne Johnson of the 00s early 10s would at least experiment with other genres and not averse to making a fool of himself on camera by taking roles like Southland Tales, Get Smart, or the Tooth Fairy. A number of those didn't work but he had a more diverse acting portfolio before he believed his own hype.
@@RandalReid I think he doesn't have much range to sustain a long career in the movies. He basically needs to play a big hulking action hero in all his films to sell them to his inbuilt WWE fanbase. But that doesn't necessarily sell much tickets in the movie world which works on various things coming together like acting, script, and direction.
Comparing captain ameirca as a b lister to be like black adam is kinda crazy. Captian america was always a known property and a main avengers , black adam is I would say more of a dlister
Well the avengers as a whole used to be b-list, from what I've heard. Fantastic 4, X-men and Spiderman were bigger and more well known. Then came iron man and his mini van. Edit: oh sorry I misread what you said. You're talking about black adam. Yeah, I agree.
I think The Pebble was tryna be another RDJ. Look at how famous and popular RDJ made Iron Man. The Pebble was tryna do the same thing with Black Adam, but failed.
@HELMBREAKER47 I was talking to @hothitheat3000 and the RDJ comment. But since you stepped up, you too are mistaken as well. RDJ wouldn't have an Iron Man ANYTHING without the money and success of the Blade Trilogy. Go look it up lol. Your Praise is ill placed lol.
@@majktblk9249 okay okay my bad I forgot to give credit to the Black man that “brought” the MCU together cuz man the Black community always gonna want to take all the credit. Better yet we gonna include them cuz man it creates a riot.
Just to clarify. I’ve spent quite a bunch t of time in middle eastern cities for work and the roads they have are actually smoother than most roads in the us
@@lightningpenguin8937 not every city. But there are some cities in the Middle East that put American cities to shame. I mean, CLEAN, well maintained and safe. I mean, there are obvious societal issues, but physical infrastructure in some of the places is insanely well kept
@@Sebomai-b8i not just Saudi and Dubai. Egypt, Kuwait and Qatar are a stones throw away from some pretty contentious areas and even they have VERY nice areas. The problem is that movies, tv and video games would lead people to believe that everyone out there lives in shacks and travels on nothing but dirt roads lol
Deathstroke isn’t originally a Batman villain yes, but since his debut in teen titans he sometimes shows up in Batman comics and other media So he has a connection to the dark knight even if he wasn’t originally intended to be a Batman villain
@@villain9482for a couple years yes dc was pushing him hard as a Batman villain but now he’s gone back to mainly fighting the titans for now. My theory is that they were pushing for him to be a Batman villain because of the canceled Affleck movie.
He's a mercenary, so he mostly crosses paths against top fighters such as Batman or Green Arrow (especially these two), and he is also related to organizations or big names that require his service, such Argus/Waller or Luthor. He only has a bad beef with the Titans due to his son and that
@@villain9482 Deathstroke usually does his own thing, if he is going to make a crossover, it's usually Batman who gets it but Deathstroke appears just about everywhere. There was even a time where he was pushed heavily as a Justice League rogue and had a rivalry with Superman...
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Hello everyone, I wanted to leave this comment here because I'm not proud of my phrasing with this moment at 17:33
Any way how you look at it, this comment was ignorant and stupid, but it was not my intention to say every single country in the Middle East has streets in poor conditions. I know there are paved roads and it's not streets made of gravel. It was a stupid thing to say, as I was thinking only of Middle Eastern countries that are or were in military conflicts similar to how Kahndaq is under Intergang's control.
Secondly, as a kid I used to skate, and my arch-nemesis was always some tiny pebble, stone, or grain of sand that would send me flying off that board. This is no excuse for my poor phrasing, but just another reason as to why I left this in as well as the comment about the skateboard wheels.
I'm not American, but I do know that the UAE has some of the most technologically advanced and clean cities in the world, and using the term "Middle East" lumping that in with all the other countries is unfair and offensive.
I sincerely apologize to those of you who took offense at the comment, it was not my intent, and going forward I will not be as thickheaded as I was here.
Thank you.
edit: someone mentioned in the comments that Black Adam's wife from the flashback is not played by the same actress as the Adriana character. This was a stupid mistake, ha.
Thank you, again.
damn bro you made an edgy joke. It's cool, did someone threaten to dox you or something
Didn’t even think of that this way. You pointed it out and now I can’t unhear it the way YOU thought it sounded.
@TURBOMIKEIFY this is a response to a bunch of comments that I’ve already replied to, I just wanted to say it again
Btw the actress playing Adrianna Tomaz and Shiruta (Black Adams wife im the past) are not the same actress
Not to be too nitpicky, but your comment about that place "looking like china" was kinda weird too. Like its a couple of hills and a rice field bro, there are plenty of places in Asia and around the world that look like that
The Rock has a clause in his contract that he can’t lose any fights & has a $20,000,000 salary. In contrast, Robin Williams had a clause in his contracts that the studio must employ at least 10 homeless people wherever they were filming, and took pay cuts to work with other actors he wanted. The Rock’s ego is his biggest enemy.
Unfair comparison
@@tailoredfor831why?
@@tailoredfor831yeah i agree unfair to compare the satanic Rock with an angel
@@tailoredfor831 true. Unfair to compare a genuine, sweet human being to a walking, talking billboard.
The Pebble couldn’t hold a candle to our Djinni
Rip Robin 🌻
We miss you something fierce 💔
How sad you gotta be to not be able to lose a fight in a movie.
He only had that for F&F amd so did Statham and Diesel, so what's the problem?
@@envi2273actors dictating this kinda stuff limits plot opportunities
@@envi2273other people had it in their contracts and that makes it not corny and sad?
It's still lame even if two other dudes did it too.
@@willster2967 How so? I get Vin diesel, he's the main character and you can clearly tell Dom is meant to be superman driving a charger, I also get Staham and the Rock not wanting to just be punching bags for Dominic Toretto or and wanting their characters looking strong in Hobbs and Shaw, how is that corny? Diesel owns F&F they're his movies
@@envi2273 Because they're three insecure men who think that their images will be tarnished by appearing weak in a movie. It's the juvenile mindset of an 11 year old boy, and it's absolutely pathetic for a 52 year old man.
The fact that John Cena's Peacemaker has been embraced by DC fans and media more, is what The Rock tried to do with Black Adam but failed.
Because Cena isn't afraid to play a flawed character.
John cena is actually a good actor
@@S1LV3R.GH057 That's a bit of a a stretch... but he is good enough. More than I can say about Dwayne Johnson lol
@@didimean Cena is good in the right role. Peacemaker is the PERFECT role for him.
@@didimean Cena is a terrific actor.
He tried to replicate the Iron Man effect (small character becoming an epicenter of the cinematic universe). But he forgot about SEVERAL variables that made this possible.
Yeah RDJ being there from Day 1 was a big catalyst. He FELT like the beating center of the MCU from the outset of the very first film. Also RDJ was a damn-near flawless casting for Iron Man, most people see the character and the actor as interchangeable
Ehhhhhhhhh Iron Man was always one of the greats in comics - not really a great comparison
@@dominicgreen4181 black Adam was bigger than Ironman.
@@CoolManCoolMan123Was he now?
@@CoolManCoolMan123 ???? what does that have anything to do with Iron Man being one of the main heads of the superhero community in marvel? 🤣
The fact i thought Black Adam was gonna be a Villain Origin Movie but instead it became the Rock with Superpowers Who wants to fight Superman instead of Shazam lmao
I knew once I seen The rock was gonna play BA, one of my fav villains that it wasn’t gonna be good unfortunately. Like why can’t they just cast ppl who actually look like the comic book characters?
@@LarfIeeze Because having well known celebrities on-board a certain brand will rake in more cash regardless of said brand's popularity or obscurity, according to Hollywood's logic.
Granted though, it has worked sometimes.
Robert Downey Jr was seen as washed up, Chris Evans was begged for, Chris Hemsworth biggest movie was "Cabin In The Woods" and I don't think anyone in the US knew who Tom Holland was. (Also, Mark Ruffalo was the first choice for The Hulk, but the studio thought it needed more star power and they went with Ed Norton)
What I'm saying is Early Marvel did get it, and WB/DC still don't
Though their animation dept and Netherealm studios absolutely do.
@@darkskull1982
Technically it _was_ a villain origin movie! _The Rock's_ villain origin movie.
I got what i expected and then some so i wasnt too disappointed
The “no losing” clause in contracts is wild. Charlie Cox’s Daredevil loses 80% of his fights unless it’s against normal thugs, and even then he receives injuries.
Losing, coming back with more of a plan and fighting smarter is what makes a hero. Those adjustments is what builds the character up. Dwayne is just so terrified of looking weak, even in a fictional universe.
It's such an egotistical thing. No famous all-time great actor or actress has ever such a wild clause. Jackie-Chan, Arnold Sch or Denzel Washington don't have such things, and he thinks such a clause will make him what? More of a star?
That sounds a lot like a pro wrestling thing. That is to say, failure to separate "character" from "actor". Wrestlers like Hulk Hogan and Sean Michaels were famous for either refusing to lose or adding stipulations, trying to protect "their character". That's at least a little understandable, because "The Rock" is Dwane Johnson's OC, not something Vince McMahon owns, so it makes sense that he'd be protective of that. Black Adam is not his character.
The worst part is that, a lot of characters in Superhero movies do get their shit beaten. If we talk about DC, the Batman was beaten, not to a pulp, but intelectually so, when Riddler's actual plan was put through. If we say an anti-hero being beaten, Deadpool took a beaten a lot. Being beaten doesn't make a character weak, what makes them weak id that if they don't get up. Hell, Adam could've taken a beaten when he had no power, but had to power through to save the female character or the child, and get beaten up because he doesn't have his strength, that would've been interesting
Don't forget Invincible
Eh, black Adam isn’t a hero. I’d say he is more like a vegeta if done properly, and vegeta loses a lot too, but gets awesome dubs
i think we should start calling the rock "the guy from Jumanji" just to get his ego down a peg
Oh yea that guy *snaps fingers* yea yea uhhh *snaps fingers* it's on the tip of my tongue.... uhhh, oh! yea Kevin Hart's friend that guy from that movie
The guy from DOOM (2005)
The Tooth Fairy
The Guy from fortnite
That's Robin Williams as far as I'm concerned.
I can’t imagine being a writer when an actor has a clause in their contract that they can’t lose. Where do you go with that?
Well, he isn't the only actor who has such a clause in their contract.
you rewrite everything or most of something when your writing gets to the part that would logically result with him losing.
not ideal but only way I can think of to have creative freedom and not compromise at the same time. when you change stuff it can work but retconned so it feels off and unbelievable.
but if you think about it, with a meta understanding of said clause, you could have some pretty intense setups for other characters by developing them a bit, and then with the audience knowing that if they ever run into theRock they would just die, it creates a twisted tension for sub characters from the main character 😅 i think this has been done before a lot so its not new but for the writers trying to not make something terrible its the best option
most likely the point of the clause is ego related, but the loop hole is to make characters people actually care about instead and the risk of loss makes them more interesting.
of course this is still a terrible scenario but a bit of creativity can make it work, the real issue is this kind of concept existing in a super hero universe, and one that already has been established and on a 'villian?' so this kind of invincibility would just stagnate any future of the series which is the real issue imo, not a movie but the cinematic universe it's trying to build. especially when you can't just send said invincible character to another world to be absent from everything so there's actual potential for growth like they did with the hulk
You tell the producers to ask the actor to fuck off
@@geraldstephens6612 and? it's a stupid clause regardless of who it is that's the point
Prison scene in Furious Seven or Fate of the Furious where the rock's Hobbs vs Statham's Shaw is the best example iirc
The fight doesn't resolved because there's another bigger problem
Making Black Adam never meeting Shazam is as stupid as Venom never meeting Spider-Man.
Yep
The difference is that Tom Hardy is charismatic enough to carry a film all by himself.
@@alexanderchippelThe rock is charismatic too. Just not in this or whenever he has any creative control.
The rock can’t act if he’s not the rock, Tom hardy doesn’t have to be Venom to act well, you really can’t compare the 2 cause Hardy has RANGE in his acting
@@gmoneystylez999he’s charismatic if you like walking ads with zero personality except whatever makes him the most money.
Honestly, it was this moment I saw The Rock who he truly was. It was this fiasco I began to lose respect for Dwayne Johnson.
Amen.
A lot of people say this now because they have hindsight, but i remember people going crazy for this back then.
@@DaWhisperyou say that like it wasn’t less than two years ago and people had been talking major shit about him prior to that for his pussy ass contracts for Fast
That juice really amplifies narc tendencies
@@DaWhisper me too. I was one of his biggest fans.
Unfortunately for Dwayne's goals, the DCEU already *had* a darker version of Superman...Superman.
General Zodd was in shock when Superman hit his minions with a school bus filled with children's.
@@aiden79797mind filling me in?
Black Adam is just like Superman!
If Zack introduced Ultraman he’d be so dark he’d integer overflow into being a good Superman
@@lachlank.8270 Exactly! He even wears the exact same costume!
...oh, wait.
“I’m assuming all of you watching this video have seen Black Adam.” Bold of you, my friend. Very bold, indeed.
Yup I just like the drama I ain’t watchin that shit 😂
"Black Adam has all the powers of Superman" I don't understand how that didn't go viral to hammer home how little the Rock understands Black Adam
Probably because Black Adam isn't widely known. I only knew of him because of the Injustice games which is how I was aware he had electricity like Shazam but boiling him down to 'evil superman' is easy to understand.
He actually has SOME of the powers that MIMIC Superman; only the source is magical. He's also not an evil Superman - he's an Evil SHAZAM. Wherein Superman's powers are a natural biological function of his alien heritage, SHAZAM and Black Adam had to be vested with theirs. So I'd argue that by and large, while they may be similar in some respects (and since they're powers are magical in nature, they do get an advantage in battles against a Kyrptonian) Superman as it stands in the longrun is going to be superior. [They have the powers that were stolen from Gods & Champions = Clark is literally descended from a Kryptonian God; and an actual God himself in all but canon acknowledgement, so long as he's under the yellow sun] * It has been at least semi acknowledged that he's factually immortal...
I mean he isn’t completely wrong Black Adam has a good amount of Superman’s moveset but he is under a misconception that Black Adam is a evil Superman when he is actually a evil Shazam who the wizard wrongly picked as his champion. Which is why in the first movie he spend centuries on picking the perfect vessel as he didn’t want a repeat of what happened with Black Adam if he picked wrong again.
Clip over to a scene from the Superman Shazam movie where they fight Black Adam and Superman hits atom with heat vision and cold breath and when asked “what was that” Superman respond with “another power you don’t have.” You wanna see Superman Vs Black Adam check the trailer for DC Online and watch Superman tank Black Adam’s punches, grab his fist to crush it, proceeding with heat vision to the face killing him. (It was a no holds barred fight Trailer of a possible fight to the death future and Wonder Woman had just been killed while Superman was charging in the sun for a while and he arrived angry.)
@@ricniks4619 In the comics, it's actually his nephew who was picked as champion, as he had a pure heart, but Teth, cunning and opportunistic person that he is, kills his nephew and steals his powers. This shows how far removed Black Adam's morals are from Superman, and how he is the antithesis to Billy's pure hearted Shazam.
“A superman that kills”
Hey, remember supes giving zod a neck massage back in man of steel
"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck".
or killing the kryptonian babies yikes
"TIL that necks aren't supposed to rotate that far."
Remember when superman lasered a huge ship and crashed it into middle of the city killing hundreds of ppl before zod
Superman killing Zod was the right choice imo.
He needed a reason to decide to not commit murder ever again.
He basically killed the last of his species as a last resort to save an innocent family.
Buuuuut, him killing a terrorist in the beginning of Batman V Superman was quite Stupid and made Zod's death completely unnecessary 😑.
You know what's funny.
If he had patience, black adam couldve been a main dceu threat.
What Adam needed was build up, rock just wanted to jump right into it.
The Major Problem is that the Rock only plays one Character that IS a good Guy. Black Adam IS anything but a good Guy He IS a villain
Dawg black Adam is a nobody, teth adam is not standing with the justice League
@@Iianator that'd why I said he needs build up. In everyway he's just not there yet to fight superman.
@@Iianatorhe’s literally fought every superhero on earth at once except batman superman and ww and was winning until shazam changed the word that gave him his power
@@lowtusplurge6395 comics made to glaze
I know Zachary Levi sucks too but you can see how frustrated he is talking about how he and the Shazam writers were railroaded by the Rock
He does?
I remember wondering why they didn’t get an Egyptian or middle eastern guy to play Adam, then I remembered Dwayne has this magic ability called “I’m the executive producer”
The rock plays any role where a character is black or brown.
I don't really mind the ethnicity, but he really doesn't look like Adam. I get that they cut the elf ears (though that's a damn crime) but c'mon, no slick hair nor iconic evil imp eyebrows?
@@vanillabatcave5677 and Black Adam's accent
@@HarishBabuM yeah, that too.
@@vanillabatcave5677 with all these characteristics, if handled right Black Adam can easily become an iconic character, IMO. Also with the rise of characters like Omni man and Homelander.
The Rock refusing to be in Shazam was all I needed to avoid Black Adam. I won’t support that level of ego.
Oh sick same hat!!!! 🤝
And yeah rock rlly just ain't it with that ego :(
He really thought he was THAT GUY and could not be compared to some silly little hero like Shazam.
Correct couldn’t have said it better myself
Agreed I lost all respect for the rock after that. How much of a narcissist could you possibly be to think your comic arch-nemesis isn't good enough for you?
For real. Like that’s literally Black Adam’s main rival. That’s like taking Superman and making his rival The Joker or better yet taking Lex Luthor and making him Batman’s villain.
I love how he was obsessed with fighting Superman but refused to even appear next to the character Black Adam is actually the main antagonist to.
Also, how was he planning to keep that "No losing" clause in a fight against SUPERMAN
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Levi was right. There was no finished cut half ready and just being in a drawer, waiting around. So much work had to be done... I don't like him, but he was honest and they hated him for it. Lunacy
Yeah like you dont need to throw another 100 million dollars on a already finished cut
People weren't mad because he was honest people got mad because of how douchey he got at the end and disrespectful like he didn't need to say "I'm waiting for The Snyder cut too haha just kidding I'm not because it doesn't exist" classic example of when attempting to be funny/charming backfires
@@chog117 I can't with what Americans consider rude, to me, he talked absolutely normally.
@@eneyavorodecky I'm american and i couldn't careless about levi's joke. All these snyder stans are freaking out over anyone who says something about snyder that could possibly be interpreted as negative.
@@narc440 that's good for you but unfortunately at the moment it is very easy to be shitty online and to become part of a screaming group.
In the Shazam guy’s defense, he wasn’t wrong in saying that as far as he knew, the Snyder Cut didn’t exist. It didn’t. Hence why Snyder used a tens of millions to finish his cut. It wasn’t completed.
He was such a a good cast for Shazam. Unbelievable that he got wasted.
@@einstien2409 Unbelievable that it got wasted is pretty much the motto of the DC films
Yeah, I think some people forget this. Snyder was forced to leave the film midway through production to be with his family during a tragedy. The movie wasn't near completion, if you cobbled together everything he had then it was maybe half a movie. That's why they had to bring in a new director to finish it. There wasn't a film to be seen from just what Snyder had shot. After they decided to do the Snyder cut it required 3 more months of filming and 70 million dollars to complete.
Exactly! It never existed, idiot fanboys just had their blinders on then claimed victory when their awaited "cut" appeared regardless of the facts
@@GenGaaraplus it was supposed to be 2 movies wasn't it? So even less footage when you think about it
The fact that his contract states he can never be defeated, ever, ruined it. His character literally wanted to kill kids, and he's gunna be an anti-hero now? Its fucking Cruella all over again.
Did they make a lvie action movie of the old lady who wanted a fuckin Dalmatian fur coat with her as the good guy???
@@pajwubx1809 Because dalmations killed my grandma, okay?!
@@pajwubx1809 Yup. They did. They sure did.
Except Cruella is a good film if you pretend its not the same Cruella
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"Black Adam has all the powers of Superman"
Literally the only powers they share is flight and super strength, which a lot of DC heroes have. The only reason to say this is to purposefully draw parallels between the two characters to set up an eventual fight. The rock's ego was on full display with this film and it's marketing.
Honestly when he mentioned that I just know it's completely a lie because for example here's an actual power for Superman that they promoted as a new power "eating really fast" and also you know lack of research.
"He's like superman but he kills and with no moral code"
"Yeah he's like Zod- I mean God!!"
Guess speed too.
Oh wait Shazam has those abilities. By his logic, Flash and Suoerman have the same abilities just because they both have speed.
To be fair, DC's did the animated treatment of Superman/Shazam/Black Adam in 2010
The fact that Henry Cavill was fired as Superman through no fault of his own, but because of The Rock’s ego, is just so unfair.
why was he fired?? serious question
@@campaingsosa300He technically was never fired. His contract expired after Justice League and the negotiations to renew it broke down in 2018, with the relationship between him and the studio apparently being so bad that WB refused to let his version of the character return (the plan being to use the Flash film to replace him with Supergirl). After Discovery bought WB and the old leadership was gone, the Rock was able to get Cavil for the film. The interim heads in charge of DC films as a division of Warner Bros (before Gunn and Safran were given control of DC Studios as a separate division), paid Henry I believe $500k in total for cameos in both Black Adam and the Flash (the latter of which was cut; it would’ve been an alternate ending that showed that both he and Supergirl now coexisted in the DCEU) and verbally promised to develop Man of Steel 2 (even though there were two Superman movies in very early development, including Gunn’s), but they never gave him a new contract. When Gunn and Safran took over, they decided it was best to reboot the vast majority of the DCEU, which included Superman (which, in my opinion, was definitely the right call).
So, Henry was never fired because he was never rehired for the job after his contract expired in 2017. His inclusion in Black Adam was a result of the Rock’s ego and the studio’s attempt to goose the box office revenue (hence why they were actively leaking his appearance).
@@campaingsosa300 They said it was because of the Ego of the Rock. Probably Dwayne Johnson was afraid if Henry Cavill continued as Superman he'd be overshadowed by Cavill.
@@lucyla9947 so the rock fired him ???
@@lucyla9947 how does he have that much power
The Rock isnt interested in making a good movie, he is only interested in making money. This is ironically why the movie did not make money
“ironically” the movie DID make money, just not as much as they hoped for, and “ironically” Pierce Brosnan blocking releases due to political views in key countries contributed to more of a loss than anything the Rock did. y’all are so unaware and openly show your own ignorance so proudly it’s comical.
@@whosDaBun the rock is not interested in making good movies. If he was he wouldn't have contracts saying he has to have fights that are at least equal to everyone else. The thing that makes a hero interesting is overcoming weakness. Getting beat down and overcoming it. The rock never shows any weakness in movies because it's too important that he look cool all the time. People wanted to see BA vs Shazam. But the rock didn't think that Shazam was a good enough character for him to fight which is why he set it up for him vs Superman. He didnt give a sh-- that BA is Shazams main nemesis. That movie probably would have been interesting.
Also he has to be the good guy. Black Adam is at best a villain that occasionally does some good. But he is still a villain. but the rock for all his "I'm not a hero" schtick acts as a hero throughout the whole movie. You can't point to him killing people as him being bad either. Most of the DC heroes have been killing people.
Maybe soon the rock can attempt acting. I would look forward to it. I honestly think people are getting tired of him doing the same thing in every movie, it's boring
@@mahrimen bro idk why you’re just straight up lying and showing that you don’t know anything about comics, and you felt the need to write a novel to show that. Rock is a massive Black Adam fan, and WB has been mismanaging DCs Ips for years. not gonna argue with someone who has such little idea of how the real world works 💀
@@whosDaBundon't.... Don't project like that. It's just weird.
@@lucky4d725 i don’t think you know what “projecting” means. don’t just say things you see on reddit lil bro lmfao
Pierce Brosnan as Dr Fate was awesome honestly I actually wanted to follow him in his own adventure.
Bummer he was wasted on the lamest death scene in a long time right after Superman in BvS
Lol he's a Neurologist, Dr. Frank Fate.
That's because Pierce Brosnan is a *real* actor.
The League in general was cool. I liked Cyclone too. No story there, but cool. 😅
That ironically also was one of this movies biggest problems because since they got someone famous to play Kent, you saw his face in 96 percent of the time
It is wild how this movie changed the perception of The Rock’s irl character for so many people.
I mean not a lot of people knew who The Rock was outside of wrestling until he entered movies he was just "Famous wrestler". So a lot of people are just seeing his true colors bleed through.
i think it's career suicide
It’s like Brainiac fighting Cyborg just because they’re both robots
Yup. Some people knew about his true colors before, he's notoriously arseholeish. But now EVERYONE knows he's an arsehole. Love that for him.
Imo it was the Hawaii fires. A lot of people watch comic movies but not that many are deep into it, his dip in popularity is far beyond just comic fans
his whole "hierarchy of power is about to change" shtick is fucking hysterical
Those clauses that they cant lose a fight in those F&F movies is....pathetic. You talk about a dangerously huge ego mixed with shallow artistic merit and insecurity.
One of the problems is that Johnson put in his contract that Adam never looses a fight which would've lost the movie money because villains & heroes alike loose in their fights.
It's actually funny and sad that a guy who's built like a rhyno is that insecure about looking weak. it's a joke that writes itself.
Large egos tend to be thin and fragile.
I still don't get that, the Rock's dressed up in a pink dress and fucking fairy wings before but thinks losing a fight of all things is embarrassing?
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If Black Adam would have fought Shazam the movie would have made a ton of money.
It would have been so funny if they made Shazam win too
Would it, though? The Shazam sequel bombed harder than this one did
@@faresz8928 it did but that was mainly b/c it was just a bad movie not b/c the character itself is bad. Black Adam is Shazam's most iconic villain and would have brought more people to see the movie than just random gods that nobody knows
@@darkJman77 that's my point, though. neither black Adam nor Shazam are actually iconic or recognizable by the general public. I bet most people , at best, would view them as Superman clones, another product of comic books derivative nature. The Rock is more recognizable and culturally significant than both Shazam and black adam combined. Yet his involvement with black adam couldn't save it. (Although The Rock had been producing mediocre slop for a while by then, so "the Rock fatigue" along side superhero fatigue and general lack of faith may have caused the flop)
considering the rock's goofy, no losing, contract clause, and how mediocre at best both movies ended up being (didnt watch the shazam sequel) , nothing suggests that this hypothetical Adam v Shazam movie would've been any better.
Should've been Shazam vs black Adam and a stand alone JSA movie. The JSA was the best part of the movie. Hawkman and dr. Fate were great.
There was a comic I saw recently of Black Adam floating above a bunch of villains while at a meeting table, one of them points it out and asks why he is just hovering above the ground. Adam says that it’s not due to his ego but because the literal gods that power him refuse to be at a level of elevation lower than a mortal being. So much depth to be taken from his powers and strained connection to the wizard but they just wanted to make a movie about a Superman that murders people.
Hilarious lol
No wonder bill batson was the better choice. Still walks same ground as normal folk cause its convenient and does not make himself look like a complete tool. Black Adam turely fits well with The Rocks ego.
Exactly we wanted a Black Adam movie but we got a Bald Adam from the rock
When the Superman from this universe already murders people
@@brunowillich1837 yeah they lost the plot in batman v superman in terms of "wait does colleteral damage here include people?"
like i forgave the first suprman movie for the zod moment because it fits zods character to make superman do something agasint his morals to make him suffer for forcing him to loose.
but all the times aftyer that w-a-s- -b-u-ll
Im not a huge Zachery Levi fan at all but man i do feel bad for him for how this went down. It seems he genuinely cared for making an enjoyable Shazam series and was screwed over completely (especially since the version of Shazam 2 we got was pretty mediocre compared to the first film)
Yes. I don't care for him but Levi got screwed royally. You can hear the anxiety in his voice.
I used to LOVE Zachary Levi. My feelings now are .. not the same. But I agree with you- he got screwed over.
i don’t really care about the dude but i see a ton of comments here saying they despise him. are they just snyder fans mad about his harmless remarks ??
Remember when you were a kid and you would play superheroes with your friends. There will always be that one kid tries to make himself the main character and every time there’s a fight or something, they always runoff to the side and have some sort of “moment” and all alone and bruting. That’s how I describe the black adam movie.
*Looks away nervously*
Nope. No idea what you uh… what you mean.
No clue who that could be (°_ʖ°)
Bruting??Did you mean like brooding ???
😂😂😂
I remember trying to play Pokemon cards with that person, in one battle sweeping their team, only for them to eventually keep brining new cards from out of their house, and after that brining an entire box of trading cards out so they could win against my team of 6.
I stopped playing with them completely with anything, for it was never a straight fight, or fun- they always a had to try SOMETHING to win completely.
I wanna add as a wresting fan that almost right after this the rock tried to basically do the same thing in WWE, he made a big power play to be a TKO board member then tried to push his way past the royal rumble winner and the most anticipated story conclusion of the last decade to set up a "dream" match between him and Roman Reigns at wrestlemania and it was only through A LOT of fan backlash that that didn't happen (wether that was always the plan or not who knows, its just a good thing to add to the story)
Yep. I was following this too and was also pretty disgusted. It became obvious at that he has one MO- go in and make himself the absolute star, irrespective of the cost.
They've already admitted they had to pivot due to all the backlash
Yeah he also tried it with fast and furious with his spinoff
@@C280SAnd the pivot turned out to be the best thing to happen. Last thing we needed was another year of Cody crying every week about his daddy and his story. Rock made the build-up interesting this year. People are already getting bored of Cody and chanting We Want Roman.
Weird of you to omit his contribution brought the most attention to the WWE it's had in years lol
Wait, that's why the Snyder-Chuds were mad at Zachary Levi? He was 100% right, there wasn't some cut ready to be released, it cost $70 million dollars in post-production to complete, and it *did* require reshoots (relatively minimal reshoots, but still). These people threw a tantrum because he explained reality to them.
Yup. Welcome to the internet, where people like what they want to hear not the truth.
le chuds
A majority of the movie was finished. People who worked on the movie still had all of their work saved. It cost more to finish it because it's what it should have been. You expect them to complete it for nothing?
@unclehollywoodshouseofther995 LOL, no, and that's not what I said. I said what Zachary Levi said about the Snyder cut not existing was true; Snyder fans thought there was a finished directors cut that WB was sitting on, Levi told them it didn't exist, they got mad at Levi. Do you think a movie that needs $70 million in post-production is finished?
@pjwestin yes. Have you never heard of a movie going over budget?
I feel like if the Rock wanted to play a big-time villain, with a big ego, he should have played Brainiac
Pierce Brosnan perpetually being in movies hes WAY too good to be in breaks my heart to no end.
Out of the Bond's I always found Brosnan the "Ryu" of them all, basically good in all categories whereas others excelled in certain areas (example, Dalton - perfect look, the "killer/assassin" Bond).
Meh, my man got his bag and dipped.
he’ll always be the prime james bond to me, IDGAF. i grew up with him.
@@xxtokyoxx8394 Clumsy.
The architect got more budget for his life’s work (getting his wife fat)
Zachary Levi was right. The Snyder cut didn't exist at the time. The movie would need to be completed to exist. Which WB obliged after the overwhelming demand for it.
Exactly, Snyder got 70 million to finish it and had to shoot additional scenes.
He wasn't lying he just attacked people's hope and that's a mistake. He needs to stroke movements like that, not try to be the one to step on the flame and mock people for believing in it. I'm sure it was a learning experience for him.
@@Vespyr_it was virtually unheard of to do something like the Snyder-cut at the time. He was also probably assured it wasn’t happening. The studio didn’t want to do it until they saw enough dollar signs, and when they didn’t want to do it, they probably didn’t want the actors trying to help bring out this version of a movie that didn’t do as well as they wanted, and messes with some continuity that had since been established
@@jarrodoakley6911 Yes but he should have leaned more into the "I'm a fan I would love a Snyder cut, but I haven't heard of anything like that." instead of just flat out telling people not to believe in something. Some humility when it comes to hope is a good thing. Share in their fandom, don't crush it. He had nothing to gain from that.
@@Vespyr_ unless the Snydercut didn’t beat the odds and actually get released. The safe bet was that it wasn’t. Then if it didn’t come out, he would be honest with the fans, not getting their hopes up about something he was very sure wasn’t happening, and would have been a good company man by supporting what was then the vision of the franchise’s future. And seeing that he was one of the few established characters who were getting a continuation of their franchise, would have been a good place to be
Rock needs to stop acting, dude plays the same role in every movie it's annoying and also if you don't ever wanna lose you probably shouldn't play the villain of Shazam.
Uuuuh he only played BA in BA 😂
I guess by that logic Samuel L. Jackson should have stopped acting? Jack Nicholson? Mark Wahlberg? Morgan Freeman? A lot of actors basically play themselves. Not everyone can be a Johnny Depp.
@@loregasmichow does jack Nicholson play himself are u acoustic
Samuel jackson has played plently, and i mean plenty of excelent roles in which he is not just the hahaha funny man. The rock plays the same genric heroic good guy in every god damn movie @@loregasmic
@@loregasmic
Archetype =/= Acting mannerism.
SLJ has played, good guys, bad guys, support, funny guys, mentors, for crying out loud, the man played a black samurai on an anime! AN ANIME.
The Rock's unwillingness to play anything but the "The Big Guy Hero" makes him one note.
And we know the man can play the "heel" he show that on WWE(F)
The problem with Black Adam is the same with Harley Quinn. These characters don’t really make a lot of sense outside of the reasons behind their creation. Black Adam is the antithesis of Shazam, Harley Quinn was manipulated and groomed by the Joker. Having the first films featuring these characters without that being established leaves out a great part of their characterization. Unless you have excellent screenwriters that can actually make them compelling without their established canon and source material they aren’t interesting ( Joker being an excellent example of how a good screenwriter can pull this off )
That’s true, although I think Harley Quinn (being a Batman character) is well known enough that she could carry on with minimal association to the joker; both Black Adam and Shazam were more obscure before the movies came out
@@mjade1097 I generally think she's better and more entertaining as Joker's partner in crime. I was never a fan of Margot Robbie's Harley or the effect her version of the character seemingly had on the general perception of Harley Quinn and her modern depictions. I liked clown themed mallet using ditzy villain Harley more than the modern daddy issues punk girl boss who don't need no man with a baseball bat.
The rock not understanding Superman is peak Dwayne Johnson
He doesn’t understand the character and the comics Black Adam is from. If he wants Black Adam character to be successful, he should first swallow his pride and be a side character in Shazam.
But then again, Dwayne doing that is like asking a fish to climb a tree.
He doesn’t understand any character. He just wants to play The Rock.
I mean he promotes onto Roblox,
That already said a lot, like crazy a lot…
To be fair, a lot of people misunderstand Superman. It's everything else that's the problem
“You killed him, didn’t you.”
**literally enough time for the man faster then a speeding bullet to zoom over and catch him.**
“Yep.”
Would’ve been a way cooler scene if he did that too.
I kind of wish dr fate didnt do that set up.
it wouldve felt like less of a joke set up if he's like "Okay where's the prisoner"
and black adam just has a short pause "he didn't make it". Or the Rock could've just kept his damn face straight.
Seeing a CGI Rock skinny is the funniest thing! All he has to do is miss a few shots.
Lmfao thats brutal dude but you are totally right😂
If Alistair Overeem is any indication, he would get fat before getting skinny.
@@carlosleyva-calistenia6400 Yeah all that mass has to go somewhere it doesn't just suddenly vanish lmao
@@freeziboi3249 Unless you're literally starving your body of vital nutrients, yeah it turns into fat.
But then that'd mean he wont look cool 😥
Ironically in his older movies he used to allow for more freedom from the writers. Things such as him losing a fight were fine like in Get Smart he gets whooped by Steve Carrell. I miss that Rock.
In his older movies, he was still positioning himself as an actor after his transition from wrestling. Once he became a big movie star, however, that’s when the ego takes over.
30:50 It's funny that Doctor Fate planned on sacrificing his life for Hawkman...a character who can reincarnate himself.
Hawkman and Hawkgirl don't CONSCIOUSLY reincarnate themselves though. It's a curse as far as I know about their characters. Not an ability they have any actual control over - and part of that is that they're star-crossed and doomed to keep reincarnating; and be fucked over each time. Because someone didn't want them to be together. (Which is why I liked in the JLA cartoon that Shiara found a romance with Jon Stewart that broke that trend) Also, it's not exactly fun to die. Doctor Fate would naturally want to save his friend from that.
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JLU.
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@@TheRavenShadowsWolf I will forever love how Hawkman got cucked by John.
I don't remember; is the Hawkman in that movie a reincarnated ancient Egyptian or a Thanagarian cop?
I love how against killing SAVAGE Hawkman is.
In the New 52, his intro into the JL was him walking up to a meeting with blood and meat all over his morningstar.
HIS WEAPON IS A LITERAL MORNING STAR; It's a literal club with spikes, and you're telling me, that dude is against killing?
Fucking Solid JJ who makes parody videos of old superfriends cartoon somehow got that bit about Hawkman more right than this fucking film jesus christ
To be fair almost nobody likes the New 52 changes.
The actor was GOOD, he had the chops and they wasted him!
Hawkman being Inconsistent is probably the most consistent thing about him
@@deathmaniac7712, lol
5:24 He was right - that's why Snyder needed $70M and he filmed brand new scenes.
Bingo.
If that were true, then there would be more reshot footage outside of literally just the ending
@@scp-507 It is true though. Two new scenes were filmed and Snyder was given $70 million to finish the cut. 😆
@@scp-507 The majority of the movie are scenes with different ratios or different angles from what we saw in the Josstice League. Then he filmed the Knightmare and Green Lantern/Martian Manhunter scene.
@@StopCallingMeShirley1180 the absence of a redundant 5 minute epilogue at the very end doesn’t render the remaining 98% of a movie unfinished, which is what Levi’s original comment actually meant.
Rock going above people's head to get his own way really is becoming a regular thing for him, his obsessing over controlling and owning everything is very weird
The thing that gets me the most is The Rock saying Black Adam is basically a dark reflection of Superman and has all his powers. Black Adam has nothing to do with Superman! He doesn’t have his powers and isn’t a dark reflection of him… if anything he’s a dark reflection of Shazam/Captain Marvel. I genuinely believe Dwayne thought he came up Black Adam’s character on his own and didn’t even bother to research who he was playing. Black Adam is a very interesting and underrated character in the DC Universe and this movie would’ve finally given him recognition and the spotlight he deserved. But of course Warner Bros and Dwayne Johnson just had to butcher it for everyone.
Superman is the true good in the world
Anyone who's the opposite of good is the opposite of superman
If he's also basically a god for mortals
@@venerablewu8744however Superman’s counterparts are either a dude so petty he’s cure cancer and give it back or a living super computer with trauma or general zod or bizarro is a bit off
@@venerablewu8744you can't determine what's 'Good/Evil' in its absolute form of truth you superficial _____.
also, that's not what makes Superman stand out, & your conclusion is just pure misconceived strawman.
@@venerablewu8744& he's not a 'God' in essence.
allegorically yes... & if you want to see the 'God' allegory of Superman; watch BvS.
“Black Adam is like a Superman who kills.” Oh, you mean like Superman in Man of Steel? I know this is a small point, and very early into the video, but I just thought the idea of marketing him like that was so funny.
Yeah, in the universe he was in, that meant absolutely nothing.
Also, we're a lil burnt out by "A Superman who kills". In recent years, we've had Homelander, Omni-Man, Brightburn and multiple evil versions of Superman himself such as the Injustice games/comics version. A lot of comic fans been reacting fondly to return of wholesome hopeful, inspiring Superman such as Tyler Hoechlin in Superman & Lois, the animated show My Adventures with Superman, and looking forward to this new Gunn Superman movie.
"Black Adam is like a Superman who kills" isn't the exciting fresh thing that Dwayne and his buddies seemed to think it was.
@@carn9507 an excellent point as well.
@carn9507 true but then again you wouldn't really expect a multi millionaire block buster actor who figuratively strokes himself 24/7 to know anything more than the surface level of a DC character who isn't one of the main three.
He was marketing an obscure comic book character to get normies into theaters, which of course very likely won't have a point of reference, so he went with Superman who kills. Simple enough for the average audience member to understand.
You know that WB royally messed up when in the past 10 years B-C list characters like The Guardians, Ant-Man, and even Deadpool became bigger household names than the company name 'DC'.
GotG were D-List characters James Gunn turned into A-Listers! I’m sure he’ll do the same for the new movieverse, it’s just a bit on the late side.
Iron Man used to be a B list character
Captain America & Hulk are the only characters from the MCU that were a household names, until they brought Spiderman in for Civil War.
Thor & Iron Man both had cartoons in the 60s or 70s.
But nobody (other than comic readers, obvs) knew who Black Widow nor Hawkeye were, until Avengers.
True but Deadpool shouldn't be on that list. Deadpool was really popular after like 2014
@@ClassifiedRanTomit’s called the DCU
Was Zachary Levi even wrong about the Snyder cut not existing at that point in time? If I recall correctly they had to film new scenes for the finished product and was it more about allowing Snyder to finish his creative vision than some magic cut sitting in a vault somewhere.
It would’ve been nice to see him establish his rule over Kandaq by force in his first movie. Actually seeing a villain being successful in his own movie would’ve been great to see.
Shut up man
What I wanted from Venom. But I guess he is just as good as any of these production companies who shows no darkness.
You can't have bad guys silly they have to be morally ambiguous antiheros cause that's deep bro
Fr. I honestly expected that when I first saw Maleficent. Yes, the idea of her being antihero and being a victim is okay, but she’s called Mistress of all Evil in Sleeping Beauty in 1959. Angelina Jolie’s Maleficent feels so diluted to me.
He never ruled it by force though..he’s what doom is to latveria and the people of khandaq are usually shown loving Adam.
Most people complaining here have not read the source material and are just using this as an opportunity to bash Dwayne, the dc universe was going to be rebooted anyway Gunn had been hired for 6 months before black Adam’s release, this video is just nothing but misinformation 😂
The Rock tried to captain a sinking ship and start a new voyage instead of going to port for repairs.
More like hijack a sinking ship
That's actually a wonderful analogy.
Yup
Th ship enthusiast in me appreciates this analogy
I love this analogy. It’s so accurate.
I think this movie shows the difference between a *passion* project and a *vanity* project. Having your character never lose a fight (and thus never creating stakes, resulting in a boring movie) is pretty vain. Black Adam should have been the villain of Shazam 2. Maybe Billy could remind him of his son and soften him from a villain to an anti hero and *then* he gets a solo film with the JSA. 🤷♀
I loved the deep dive including the comics. Absolute pleasure of a watch, man, thanks for all you do.
I love that Dwayne failed to take over DC and the WWE in quick succession.
And Hawaii
And both failed
I mean it wasnt a fail for WWE. He’s still on the board of directors at TKO and his childhood friend Nick Khan is still President of the WWE. So Dwayne’s still in a pretty good power position.
It's so fascinating how badly DC lost the superhero movie war.
Like it wasn't even a war, more like small resistance in one small village of the Marvel country.
DC's always excelled more in the animated side of things I've felt
I wouldn't even say resistance.
It was the equivalent of one lone angry guy throwing rocks at the soldiers he doesn't like.
Oh yeah Marvel who brought Ant Man 2 lmao.
At the start? Yeah, DC was caught like a deer staring at your headlights. But towards the end, DC's movies like Joker, the Flash or even Black Adam here, were better IMO.
@@martinportelance138 Yeah no I'd rather watch the worst MCU films over The Flash.
The rock doesn’t realize that there isn’t anything to take over.
This is the truth. DCEU has always been just a daydream.
DCEU dont see their characters as characters but just brands
Dwayne is the biggest mark of them all. He is such a mark that he brought that prowrestling mentality in his movies. Like who would want to watch a movie where the protagonist always wins?
Part of it was people are just sick of the rock playing the rock in everything and secondly bc he refused to actually put his ego aside Black Adam couldnt be an actual character it was just the rock living an even bigger power fantasy
I watched this with my dad, he just turned 70.
As soon as it ended he was like, "So, the Rock got a paycheck to stand in front of a green screen and make faces? I don't think he actually performed any of the action scenes."
22.5 million paycheck to do fck all..
Literally called it
The main disrespect is DC not allowing the writers of the animated movies that has been writing exceptional and cohesive stories for years, write the actual movies.
Instead choosing to use writers and producers who just saw it as another movie.
The writers and producers of the animated movies has been at ot for years and are true fans of the comic. And are the only ones that tell a actual proper story.
What writers specifically are you talking about?
Did you not watch the video? The Rock definitely won't allow them.
If the DCEU was as good as the DCAU we wouldn't be talking about Marvel today. The DCAU is the peak of comic book adaptations. It's better than any live action film in my opinion
@@callmejacob3234 Ernie Altbacker and Mairghread Scott, would be good examples. They were screenplay writers that adapted the comics into Dark Apokolipse War in the DCAU.
Exactly look what could happen if the writers of justice league teen titans bat-man beyond etc
30:18 you know what i miss the days when heroes didn’t kill people. i’m so tired of edgy hero movies that just end up being “it’s okay to kill people if they’re extras :)”
Hierarchy of power has changed. Dwayne is too selfish to let anyone shine. Adam is more villain than anything but Dwayne wanted him as an Antihero.
For real
even if he did get what he wanted what would a fight between him and superman even look like since he can never lose in any of his movies
I actually kind of want to know too. A fight between Superman and Black Adam would be pretty cool
Either Black Adam would win and they’d team up not long after or they’d team up before the fight even finished probably. Would’ve been a huge letdown regardless and Cavill fans would’ve felt cheated still.
@LTake335 just watch superman/shazam the return of black Adam lol. And if past comics help any, superman would be handicapped considering one of his only other weaknesses besides kryptonite is magic which is basically black Adam's whole arsenal
@@ganggarr It would just be a less interesting version of Batman v Superman.
Like, two invulnerable people with no weaknesses hitting each other multiple times, and then teaming up by the end after fighting to a draw and facing a bigger foe.
21:55 the “I wish we had more super heroes who were dumb as shit” made me die laughing
Atom Smasher was easily the most relatable hero, he’s just a regular guy nobody could recognize & when asked what he can do he replies “I can grow.”
@Bingo_the_Pug I only know atom smasher from the justice league unlimited cartoon so yea pretty accurate
Idk how anyone else feels but I feel like a contract to never lose gives the same picture of kids playing heroes and monsters and the kid yelling "you can't hit me!! Im suppose to be invincible!!" Kinda funny ngl
How come he doesn't put his wwe heel persona in his movies?
Imagine him beating Clarke with a weightlifting belt with "Martha" written on it,like he did to Cody?
"MAMA KENT... LOOK AT YOUR BOY!"
@@kino_vel "DO YOU BLEED LIKE YOUR MOMMA BLEEDS, CLARKE?"
This, the man has shown that can play the heel, hell, it's a role he excels at.
But for reason he refuses to do that, and prefer to be the babyface or at best a "edgy" babyface.
@@anibalubilla5689And that's what makes him a jabroni
@@anibalubilla5689 ironic all, it's the kids Film "the gameplan" that is the closest to his heel persona, he plays a cocky asshole who gets his comeupoance in the end.
Black Adam: when a film tries so hard to convince you pay attention to a morally grey character that’s played by a man whose ego contradicts the universe he’s playing in
Dr. Fate should have had his own film.
I liked the assymetrical design because the idea of Fate in a multi-universe has to include assymetrical possibilities.
I watched the movie just for him tbh...
He tried to be Ryan and make dead pool but dead pool works because he genuinely loves comics so the movie isn’t a showcase of how awesome Deadpool and Ryan is but how awesome the world and characters around him are
I would bet money the fact that he is never once referred to as Black Adam anywhere until after the credits was specifically directed by Johnson, so that audiences would see him playing himself as a badass coolguy superhero as opposed to him stepping into the role of an already established character
If you don’t ever lose, you can’t ever have a kickass 1980s training montage!
Never thought about that but wow, great point!
Is noone gonna tell the rock that black adam is a villian
Why do you think in the last few years they have been slowly turning Black Adam into an anti hero, it was because DC really thought Dwayne Jonson´s Black Adam would become iconic and change the way everyone looked at Black Adam, obviously that didn´t work out
Venom at least has the excuse of being an established anti hero for decades. Black Adam had no such luxury
I mean, looking at the heroes in the DCU, Black Adam doesn't seem too bad
I thought he is an antihero
@@sarahthomas8670 Nope Villain. A perfect example is Shazam and Superman v. Black Adams.
I never wanna see Zack Snyder as the director of a DC movie ever again
Why ? His movies are actually good and make money 😂
@@troymcclure681 because Batman Vs superman was great movie, stop dick riding and go cry about it on whatever subreddit you Snyder fans use to glaze him, the guy's deconstruction of DC heroes shows how bad he is at making movies
@@troymcclure681Bait used to be believable
@@LordVader1094 cope
@@troymcclure681You could do so much better. Your trolling skills are barely a 2/10
Every franchise He's in. He tried to Take over
Yup. I hate it.
Transformers had the right idea of killing him off in his first scene.
@@shivill2236 He was in Transformers?
@@concept5631 Yeah, Transformers Prime. He played Cliffjumper.
@@shivill2236 Oh yeah that's right.
He was so expensive they didn't bother to bring him back for that one flashback episode with him and Arcee on Cybertron.
The Rock trying to make a simple villain the main character of an entire cinematic universe... 🤦🏻♂️
He wanted his character to be joker level...
My friends and I began calling The Rock "The Modern-Day Steven Seagal" and I'm willing to bet most of you agree
Edit: I hear all of your arguments, and I must admit: you're quite valid. But please, do not get harsh with this or throw around insults. Please.
Definitely.
It remains to be seen if the Rock is as bad as Seagal, but I get the idea.
I don't think anyone can be as bad as Steven Seagal. He was a pos his entire career to everyone he met and made sure his porn fantasy girl starred in every movie he made.
I'm really glad people hate him now he really deserves it. I can't find one person who worked with him who says he was fun to work with. Even the girls said he was touchy and trying to add nudity to the scenes during filming.
The Rock is an ego maniac who made too much money and is now completely corrupted by wealth and a feeling of superiority. He's not evil like Steven though
He's not that bad
@@Captain_Redfield I mean having it in your contract that you can't lose fights in movies is pretty egotistical/shitty
0:29 yeah no. I don't know about others, but Batman and Superman? Not in a billion years can any DC superheroes overtake them.
Yeah don't take it personally. This is coming of an ignorant, moronic, muscle who doesn't know anything about comicbooks.
"Sometimes the world doesn't need a white knight, it needs something darker." Wow that's a great idea, if only there were a famous DC property that essentially built the company down to the name meaning Detective Comics who often shakes the definition of what it means to be a hero who can act as this Dark Knight.
You could actually gain interesting insight on using underhanded tactics as a way of doing real good, instead of saying "i'm not a hero" or "his darkness makes him better" all the time.
The Rock was never going to be comfortable not being at the center or at least very near it of a cinematic universe, and considering the character he was playing I knew it was time to fasten my seat belt and brace for some fuck shit when he was cast
Dwayne really had absolutely zero idea who or what Black Adam is supposed to be: an obstical for Shazam to overcome, and the fact that Dwayne makes it an obligated that his character can't lose a fight is in direct violation of what a villian is supposed to be. Its as if Dwayne just wanted a stake in the DCEU for him to do whatever he wanted to it without actually carring what that stake was or entailed
The half-ass speech that kid gives to the locals to inspire them to fight with so underwhelming I almost passed out
Small note, the Snyder Cut did NOT exist when Levy said that, it had not yet been written and shot, that was only done after the cut was approved.
Snyder revealed reels of unfinished scenes first.
Dwayne is such a clown he doesn't understand Black Adams a poor mans Dr Doom 🤣
And you know what that works for black adam. Even tho he can be considered a diet Dr. Doom, that added complexity makes him a more interesting character than just "superman that kills" or "evil shazam". But there's a reason why the rock didn't get his success off of writing.
Did you call Black Adam that or just Dwayne's version?
Because that statement is an insult to the comics version.
@@schizzo8959 It's Dr. Doom. To be called the "poor man's Dr. Doom" is a compliment if anything
@@YEs69th420Man id love for someone to consider mei their own shittier version of dr fucking doom. Id of course reevaluate my life first but hey still cool
@@karatefrosch17 you are the poor man's dr doom
If only The Rock wasn't the worst, he'd be the perfect actor to be a superhero/villain.
Big, buff, on-screen charisma, the works. He can be a character in a superhero movie, but he sucks and flexes his star power over writers and directors and all it does is make the story worse.
Also, green lantern gets his shit pushed in regularly, but powers through it. That's the "willpower" in action. He could fucking never. Any story fails when the main character doesn't lose. There's no stakes, he'll just fucking win. Unless it's a comedy where he plays a superhero who's a douchebag in a world that's otherwise completely normal, the Rock can't be a superhero.
You clearly don't know what
"Invincible flow" is it's genre where the main character is invincible and it entertains the masses and makes good money aswell
But what can you expect from someone who's an American
@@venerablewu8744 I just looked up "invincible flow" and got song lyrics. Then I tried "movie genre invincible flow" and got some other bullshit so it sounds like you're talking out of your ass.
But what else can you expect from the French?
Dave Bautista has him beat in acting ability and humility
Rock is like a character out of the Boys.
I like The Rock less and less. I already found anything he's starred in to be about him, rather than his character, and I do wonder how he kept getting more roles as they are all just him, playing him.
Exactly.
He's a dedicated actor and all, but man, it's just him in every movie with his one raised brow look.
The Rock's ego has gotten way too big for his own good.
The whole thing about the Rock having a clause in his contract that he can never lose a fight is fucking ridiculous because he, as a pro wrestler, should know as well as anyone that having a babyface lose a fight is a great way to build drama and makes people love it more when they win in the end. And as a superhero fan. Like, Spider-Man 2 works so well because of the whole "Spider-Man no more!" element that he has to overcome. God mode is only fun for like five minutes, people want to see the good guy overcome a challenge, not just blast through every hypothetical obstacle like a killdozer through tissue paper.
The Rock just isn't that great of an actor. I feel like the only reason he did so well in movies was because he had already built up a dedicated fanbase in wrestling and because he came off as this super likeable guy. But you can't rely on the past forever and in recent years he's also done a lot of things that have ruined that likeable guy persona. So it's led to many fans turning on him.
I think he's descent at what he does but he doesn't have much range. He's boxed himself to doing the same role over and over. Maybe it's ego, maybe it's something else but Dwayne Johnson of the 00s early 10s would at least experiment with other genres and not averse to making a fool of himself on camera by taking roles like Southland Tales, Get Smart, or the Tooth Fairy. A number of those didn't work but he had a more diverse acting portfolio before he believed his own hype.
@@RandalReid I think he doesn't have much range to sustain a long career in the movies. He basically needs to play a big hulking action hero in all his films to sell them to his inbuilt WWE fanbase. But that doesn't necessarily sell much tickets in the movie world which works on various things coming together like acting, script, and direction.
@@Sujo89 He's been acting for nearly 25 years now.
5:20 to be fair how would this guy know about a cut of a film he wasnt in? He juat assumed it wasnt real.
Because the fact that Zack only did half a movie before he had to stop making it, that means only Half of a movie was finished.
Seeing Zachary Levi with the salt and pepper sides makes me think he might have been a good Mr. Fantastic
youre so right, i think he could have done so well with Mr Fantastic
Comparing captain ameirca as a b lister to be like black adam is kinda crazy. Captian america was always a known property and a main avengers , black adam is I would say more of a dlister
Yeah Cap is way more famous and prevalent in the comics even before the MCU
Well the avengers as a whole used to be b-list, from what I've heard. Fantastic 4, X-men and Spiderman were bigger and more well known.
Then came iron man and his mini van.
Edit: oh sorry I misread what you said. You're talking about black adam. Yeah, I agree.
Like Captain America was a member of the first lineup of The Avengers….
@@Rebelheart1985In the movies but not the comics
@@spensirmclife6549 he was more like a last addition. He was found frozen in ice.
I think The Pebble was tryna be another RDJ. Look at how famous and popular RDJ made Iron Man. The Pebble was tryna do the same thing with Black Adam, but failed.
BINGO. He saw how much RDJ got paid for Endgame and said GIMME. RDJ Earned that bag, though. There is no MCU without him.
@hothotheat3000 Um...you MUST be talking about Blade & Westley Snipes because there is NO MCU without him.
@@majktblk9249 I’m talking about RDJ and what he did with Iron Man.
@HELMBREAKER47 I was talking to @hothitheat3000 and the RDJ comment.
But since you stepped up, you too are mistaken as well. RDJ wouldn't have an Iron Man ANYTHING without the money and success of the Blade Trilogy. Go look it up lol. Your Praise is ill placed lol.
@@majktblk9249 okay okay my bad I forgot to give credit to the Black man that “brought” the MCU together cuz man the Black community always gonna want to take all the credit. Better yet we gonna include them cuz man it creates a riot.
No one will watch a movie when they know one of the actors, a main character in the movie, isn't allowed to lose due to a contract.
Rock sure was right dc was forever changed bc every character was fired and they are starting from scratch unreal what a 🤡🤡🤡
Just to clarify. I’ve spent quite a bunch t of time in middle eastern cities for work and the roads they have are actually smoother than most roads in the us
I kind of expected that. Well not to the extent of being better. That's a bit surprising.
@@lightningpenguin8937 not every city. But there are some cities in the Middle East that put American cities to shame. I mean, CLEAN, well maintained and safe. I mean, there are obvious societal issues, but physical infrastructure in some of the places is insanely well kept
Saudi Arabia and Dubai? I wouldnt expect that in Iraq, Syria, Egypt, or Libya.
also skating has been becoming increasingly popular in the area (search up skatepal for an example)
@@Sebomai-b8i not just Saudi and Dubai. Egypt, Kuwait and Qatar are a stones throw away from some pretty contentious areas and even they have VERY nice areas. The problem is that movies, tv and video games would lead people to believe that everyone out there lives in shacks and travels on nothing but dirt roads lol
Deathstroke isn’t originally a Batman villain yes, but since his debut in teen titans he sometimes shows up in Batman comics and other media
So he has a connection to the dark knight even if he wasn’t originally intended to be a Batman villain
he doesn't sometimes show up in batman comics. he's usually LIKELY going to be there. Atp he might as well be a batman villain mainly.
@@villain9482for a couple years yes dc was pushing him hard as a Batman villain but now he’s gone back to mainly fighting the titans for now. My theory is that they were pushing for him to be a Batman villain because of the canceled Affleck movie.
He's a mercenary, so he mostly crosses paths against top fighters such as Batman or Green Arrow (especially these two), and he is also related to organizations or big names that require his service, such Argus/Waller or Luthor. He only has a bad beef with the Titans due to his son and that
@@villain9482 Deathstroke usually does his own thing, if he is going to make a crossover, it's usually Batman who gets it but Deathstroke appears just about everywhere.
There was even a time where he was pushed heavily as a Justice League rogue and had a rivalry with Superman...
Plus he’s a mercenary so….