A slightly unhinged recap of the first 50 years of Spider-Man. twitter: / lexlennen insta: / alexlennen Issues: Amazing Spider-Man 1-700 (and a bunch of other stuff)
For those who missed the message at the end - this video directly leads into my Superior Spider-Man video. If you get confused at the end, go watch that video next. At some point I’ll update this video, covering the post-Secret Wars era of Spider-Man and beyond. Also I still don't know what happened in Spencer's run and quite frankly I don't think he did either, so I'll probably make a separate video on it as well.
Hey just wanted to say the video was incredible and well told and made me tear up at the end when you explained the impact of the end of Peter Parker's story.
Any chance you can cover on Guy Gardner's Warrior series? It's really underrated series since he's well known being Green Lantern, But Guy's ring began to alternate because of his interference with Hal Jordan's Parallax. He got this new suit, which he never liked and this began new series for him just for temporary and he went back being Green Lantern.
The funniest thing about the Kindred arc is that I've yet to see an accurate summery of what happend because the story contradicts itself and everything else every issue by the end. Hell I've seen people assume events incorrectly because that would be the coherent explanation. So if you do make that video, I highly recommend double checking the details and presenting it as is rather than trying to present it coherently. It's an experience.
I like the fact that a major plot line is caused because of the fact that Doc Ock is just a normal dude. He managed to fight literal superhumans and gods solely because he has extra long arms.
@@Latitz "That should keep him out of commission for a Week while he stays in the Hospital recovering from Impact." -Mark Greyson taking Otto Octavius seriously
That’s because Morbius is a really interesting and cool Spider-Man villain. I’m not joking. He could be a horrifying villain and have a good backstory but instead we get that movie. I think everyone knows the movie I’m talking about .
I had a spiderman themed party when I was a kid around 8yo and I caught the guy who dressed up as spiderman in my laundry room changing and knew he wasn't spiderman but still pretended he was so he didn't feel like he ruined my b-day. The guy didn't see me when I walked in cause he was facing the other way. Honestly, the whole thing is fuzzy since it was 10 ish years ago but it is still one of the most wholesome memories I have as a kid. Makes me happy makes me smile.
To clarify a thing about Kraven's last hunt that this video isn't clear about - Kraven shot Spider-man with knockout gas or someshit, and then buried him alive. Peter did not literally come back from the dead through sheer force of will. Not that specific time, anyway.
@@jk-nz9bq My headcanon is that it's a clone with Pete's memories. The entire thing about the Ultimate Universe up until that point was that death matters
I'm not a comic guy, so this video was the first real experience I had learning the "full story" of Spider-Man, even if it's only one iteration of him. That said, I honestly feel like I got close to tears learning about that ending with Peter dying. Complete news to me, that is totally wild and extremely sad.
@@realperson9951 he was psychically linked with Otto, so after a while they could communicate, then he became the dominant personality. Pretty sure thats it anyway
Also I'm pretty sure the One More Day storyline with Mephisto brought him back to his youth, maybe not a full reset, but far enough to bring Harry back and completely erase his marriage with MJ.
It’s basically “Simpson’s Time” where nothing ever progresses and it’s mostly just sliding the timescale forward progressively. So in the same way Homer somehow both watched Empire Strikes Back with Marge in their 30’s and was in high school when Phantom Menace came out; characters like Punisher have been in the Vietnam War, Gulf War and Iraq War at varying points for their origin story It’s a bit messy
@alexlennen 00:32 - Season 1: Origins, high school, Betty Brandt, the Sinister Six 05:24 - Season 2: College, Gwen Stacy, Norman Osborne Green Goblin 09:16 - Season 3: Mary Jane Watson, Captain Stacy, amnesia, the Death of Gwen Stacy 14:06 - Season 4: Dating Mary Jane, Harry Osborne Green Goblin, college graduation 17:52 - Season 5: Dating Black Cat, black suit/symbiote, marrying Mary Jane 21:42 - Season 6: Kraven the Hunter, Eddie Brock/Venom 25:19 - Season 7: Carnage, the return of Harry Green Goblin 28:19 - Season 8: The Clone Saga 31:56 - Season 9: Civil War 38:46 - Season 10: One More Day 41:14 - Reboot Season 1: Mr. Negative, Mayor Jameson, Mac Gargan Venom, Anti-Venom 43:34 - Reboot Season 2: Doc Ock's bots, The Rhino, The Lizard, Kraven The Hunter resurrection 46:58 - Reboot Season 3: Agent Venom, the Spider Slayer army 50:15 - Reboot Season 4: The Future Foundation, the Jackal, the Spider Queen, Spider-Island 56:11 - Reboot Season 5: Doc Ock's global warming scheme, The Sinister Six Part II, Silver Sable 1:00:36 - Reboot Season 6: The Lizard, The Superior Spider-Man build-up
14:40 that cut to “Gwen is back?” Was so priceless, perfectly placed, poignant, all of the alliterative adjectives a marvel writer from the 70s would use. Truly tho, such an amazing video with an amazing narrator. You really tie everything together so well and make it constantly entertaining to the viewer. Mad respect.
"Aunt May is just a frail old lady that could be taken out by a paper airplane", "Peter gets bit by a spider, Uncle Ben gets bit by a bullet" this guy makes better scripts for characters than the comics do.
@@Itariatan No. Comics are just selling less because the generations have moved on from physical media. The comics that sell are sold by collectors to collectors, the same people who were into it ages ago.
As someone rather unfamiliar with comics I must say I found hilarious the lengths JJ is willing to reach fueled by his hate of Spiderman. Bad press is a thing, but having an ongoing series of murder robots is a new level of hate.
it's sper inconsistent over the years lmao, there is a what if story where he does go to prison and stuff tho but lately it's seen in a more sympathetic light since he thinks that spiderman should be held accountable and once he finds out that it's peter he usually tries to help him
@@pickleodessey8452 it amazes me that he still has credibility after sending so many spider slayers on Spider-Man and even makes a supervillain in scorpion.
@@SeseOB2003 Yeah, also I hope we get Scorpion in Tom Hollands Spider Man 4, but I don’t think JJJ should be involved since Scorpion is already a criminal and can just brake out of the prison from Homecoming
Wow early Spidey stories were so dynamic and interesting. The characters actually growing and evolving. It's nuts that peter and mj are just married with no annoying bullshit separating them.
@@troyschuler186That's when I stopped. Right to the point where they brought back Aunt May from the dead, and the one who died was revealed to be a lookalike. They really knew how to cheapen things.
@@poeterritory I remember that well. I was disappointed when it was revealed to be Aunt May since the story gave me the impression that it was Peter's daughter. It would have lined up well with the Spider-Girl comic series introduced in the late nineties.
23:55 It's worth taking note that Spider Man didnt revealed Eddie's fraudulent jornalism, Eddie was legit, he simply made a report on someone who accused himself of being a certain villain while he wasnt, so when Spider Man actually revealed who the villain was, Eddie was fired for lying in the press. Eddie was good but a series of misunderstandings led to this
you're right, what I meant by fraudulent was that he simply wrote an article that turned out to be a lie, regardless of his intentions. So fraudulent wasn't the right word for it, I think
@@Hillthugstahe did not. he simply didn't double-check / hadn't anticipated the man would turn out to be a so-called 'serial confesser'. Eddie wasn't perfect but he's been consistent in working hard and wanting the truth to be revealed. adaptations like the 3rd Raimi movie popularized the idea that Eddie purposely falsified something and was a sloppy reporter.
To me, Spider-Man's greatest nemesis isn't Doc Ock, it's not Venom and it's not The Green Goblin It's a bunch of Marvel editors who are going through a bitter mid-life crisis
I understand how a mid-life crisis could create an "abandoning your family to go back in time to high school" story arc. But what kind of crisis do you have to have to write a "Peter is sleeping with my daughter" story arc?
@@Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1024 He infected the entire city with a deadly virus and refused to give Spider-Man the cure to save everyone until he got his own revenge? How is Doc Ock in the right?
Although I am a bit disappointed that you didn't cover the Superior Spider-Man era and the years after it in this video, the fact that you plan to cover it in the future plus the sheer amount of content you covered in this video is one hell of a feat. Eagerly awaiting the next Spidey video!
I actually was going to put an explanation at the end about how Superior deserves to be its own video + Spencer's run is too fresh rn, but my iMovie project physically wouldn't let me at that point
@@alexlennen Superior Spider-Man, while having some of Slott's usual questionable antics, was overall really good, so I can't wait to see you cover it. Otto is a really interesting Spider-Man, but Superior Spider-Man also shows why Peter Parker is the definitive Spider-Man, no shade at others like Miles or Miguel. When we think of Spider-Man, the first thing that comes to mind is Peter, and Superior Spider-Man showed us why, especially in its ending. P.S. I'm still kinda pissed that the writers made Otto make a deal with Mephisto to turn him back into a villain again... like, wtf... if Venom can be a full blown hero and have his own Avengers-level crossover event, why can't Otto...
@@runbaa9285 Wasn't the ending a bit rushed in conclusion due to the Marvel's need of getting Peter back before ASM2 came into cinemas? For me the conflict was resolved too artificially when Otto just give up all of the sudden any attempts to find other solutions for the problem while it was shown very easy for Peter to defeat Osborn - all it needed is stand in front of Green Goblin for him to abandon all plans of taking down New York!
The one thing that will always bug me about Superior is the portrayal of Peter's supporting cast, especially MJ. How did MJ of all people not know what was going on with Peter? This is the same person that knew someone was posing as Spider-Man during KLH and beat the crap out of Chameleon after he tried disguising himself as Peter. Her characterization is everything that despise about post-OMD stories featuring her, aside from Spencer's run.
38:45 I AM SO GLAD YOU SAID THIS. One More Day made me sick. Everyone acted so out of character, and since this story I haven't really been able to read much of Spider-Man comics since then... The early 2000s Spider-Man was just so, so good and mature and built on so many years of lore.
Hard agree. Even the good stories they've had post OMD have been sort of tainted by the canon being reset so hard. Imagine how much more complex Superior would have been if Peter being married to MJ complicated the situation of Otto trying to steal his identity? Same with Spider Island or Red Goblin. OMD has made normally mid stories bad, normally great stories just good and normally bad stories terrible. It feels like a big debuff on ASM that just sort of takes it down a notch no matter where it's at.
I find it extremely hilarious that sm kept a cloth version of the black suit just for the drip and so incredibly sweet that what makes him give it up is a response to his wife's trauma. Really progressive for its time
I think it's cool, during the early years of Spider-man the comics had an actual continuity, while Batman and Superman were both basically still random hijinks at the time.
I think it’s because Marvel had actual themes for Spidey like high school relationships and gang wars, while Batman and especially Superman could get away with gimmick of the week shenanigans
I always assumed that all of these different Spider-Man stories were all separate takes on the character, and when something incredibly horrible happened in one Spider-Man comic that it’s okay, because there’s always another status quoe Spider-Man around. That is still true, and there are always other comic runs of spider man with similar backstory’s, movie Spider-Man and video game Spider-Man, all with their own story’s that pick and choose certain aspects of the character and the world to make their own unique story and world. But seeing these story’s connected and strung all together is truly something else
You can always try to wrap your head on the thought that all other Spiders are just taking part in this storyline, but in another universe. Or tou can just ignore it, like I do.
@@dude9318 Definitely not a dumb question, it can be hard to follow! But in this video yes, it follows the same Peter (with the exception of the whole clone swap thing.)
@@dude9318 Yes, this is the original Spider-Man, the one that is going since 1963. Also know as Spider-Man 616, is the first one and every other media was based on his comics.
Not even being hyperbolic, you have become one of my favorite comic book youtubers. The passion you give off in your videos are infectious. The quality in your videos are up there with Comics Explained, Comicstorian, ComicTropes and Casually Comics (some of my favorite comic RUclipsrs) Always looking forward to a new vid, fantastic work in every single upload.
I do love how far the idea of Spiderman and Peter Parker is pushed. A LOT of the dynamics Spiderman has are mainly focused on the idea of how people look at him and how they look at Peter. Jamason likes Peter, hates Spiderman Flash hates Peter, LOVES Spiderman Aunt May loves Peter, neutral on Spiderman And the public kind of shows this in full force, when Spiderman does something wrong he's lambasted by Jamason and everyone who hates him. When he does something truly amazing you'll see Flash there to compliment him. But Aunt May is kind of the outlier that matters MOST. Since when SHE compliments Spiderman despite how little she cares you know he did something truly good. It's almost like a dopamine hit with how each of the characters are used. At the end of a comic we see them there, telling us how the general community feels about Spiderman, whether bad or good.
Not sure if you are a father Alex but you are on point: a still born is one of the most devastating things an expecting parent can go through. I never understood it until my wife and I had a still born. Thanks for that small nod to one of life’s most difficult seasons.
My parents had a still born before my mother got pregnant with my big brother. And yes. Even if like 27 years had been passed since that incident happened, they are still really sad about it...
@Damsen I suppose you have to expereince a stillbith to understand the full emotional turmoil of looseing a life inside you or your spouse. I did not understand it until my wife and I went through it. Making a new baby does help heal but you still feel the emptyiness inside.
When Peter asks himself while in otto's body "what did I do to deserve this?" I couldn't help but think about how he made a deal with the devil at the end of the day because of he fails to make the right choice many times, and it's poetic he dies an unsung hero who kinda did sell his soul to the devil metaphorically bu bargaining with him in the first place. Also from a meta perspective it's sad how marvel forced their golden child to do such terrible things and to die so unceremoniously and yet it does add to the depth of the text regarding his entire publication history and life as a fictional character. My favorite character ever, and a great video!
This kind of mindset really bothers me. OMD was just bad writing, plain and simple. The idea of Peter making a deal with the devil is insane, and it shouldn't be in comics period, that's WHY it's bad writing. It bothers me because Peter literally died in ASM 700, and people used OMD as an excuse to justify it. He asked himself "What did I do to deserve this?", and in short, he didn't. Peter was a victim of Otto's plan to steal Peter's body and leave him for dead. There's no hidden meaning or moral ambiguity, Otto was just a criminal that got away with murdering someone using his own cancer-ridden body. I've seen friends and family members succumb to cancer over time, NO ONE deserves that. The fact that Slott weaponized cancer just to sell a comic book is disgusting, and people trying to argue that he deserved it after OMD is even worse.
Seeing how spider man evolved is heartwarming but it also made me see how the only big flaw in the story is how the editors of marvel always wanted him to keep being spider man of the neighborhood and not the spider man as he ages and grows. Even watching the video I can see how the history and years of story telling being constantly rebooted or reset can be tiring but there are a few good gems in because of it
Well, since Miles Morales is becoming more popular, as well as Mayday becoming a thing due to the movie, I think they can actually have Peter live a happy life, while having both Miles and Mayday as the main spider people. I just the man to have a happy life.
Mayday was a thing long before the movie. There were several versions of her before the movie: The teenage brunette Mayday, the redheaded Annie-May, and Claire.
This just showed me how close the Spectacular Spider Man TV Show followed the source material and how much of a crime it is that it got canned in 2 seasons the first 20-30 minutes of the video feels like describing the show and what it was setting up
The 90s animated series also followed a lot of the source material to the point that I thought Spectacular Spiderman and the Raimi films were just ripping off the 90s series lol
I never realized how faithful spectacular spiderman was to original comic, which after watching the first part of this video has made me miss and appreciate it even more. The spiderman story has always been a favorite of mine not only because of Peter, but also because of the many characters he is able to interact with. The villains, heroes, friends, and even sometimes just the people he saves all have some form of relatability to them which is just incredible to me.
Marvel's Spider-Man is pretty comic accurate too. Unfortunately it's based on the dogshit Dan Slott run. Luckily it's much, much better than the actual run
Spectacular proved to me that comic book media deserves animation more than live action, Don't get me wrong, I love alot of the live action stuff, but the comic book style is the long running story arc in little bite sized things each week, month. whatever.
16:54 Doc Ock tried to marry Aunt May because she inherited a nuclear power plant from a distant relative in Canada. Hammerhead and Spider-Man ruined his plan by crashing the wedding and Hammerhead stupidly head butted the nuclear power plant’s control room, causing the whole base to explode. Spidey and Aunt May escaped, all the henchmen didn’t, Doc Ock survived by wrapping himself in his tentacles, and Hammerhead got temporarily turned into a spooky science ghost. Apparently nobody in Canada cared about the gigantic explosion or nuclear fallout, and everything went back to the status quo. 10/10 story :)
@@Yarblocosifilitico No, but that would've been funny! They had the wedding at a normal church, but since Spiderman and Hammerhead crashed the ceremony Doc Ock escaped on a helicopter with Aunt May to go to the nuclear reactor. The wedding wasn't even finished so it's not like Octavius had any legal right to the reactor, and the reactor wasn't heavily guarded either so god only knows why Octavius bothered with the wedding at all and didn't just take the reactor by force. Later comics would retcon it that Doc Ock actually had feelings for May, but at the time it was just some Bronze age comic weirdness.
I just like how morbius just randomly shows up every 30 years , morbs up shit, then leaves. Also I’ve used Morbin so much that my phone auto generates it.
Keep up the good work man. Your entire body of work is actually insane but in a good way. I haven’t watched a video of yours that I haven’t enjoyed and to have that experience every single time is actually just phenomenal. Can’t wait to see what the next video will be
I remember being 11 when Peter “died”. The way Otto’s decaying body looked scared me. I never got into comic books but because of the news of Peter dying I found comicstorian a channel all about comic book stories and from there i came all the way here. Time really flies.
I had the same experience, seeing what ock had been reduced to and Peter having to experience that inspired this morbid (ha) curiosity that lead me to read it more and many other comics
Wait that was your first (that didn’t get you into) comic, even if not it’s weird to think of a escenario where a kid and family that don’t know much about the storyline and anything and just have the friendly neighborhood Spider-Man and decide to buy him the latest comic which just so happened to be that one
Agreed, it has such a timeless style. The bright colors, thick shading, and simply colored backgrounds make it feel almost surreal, like the images are ripped directly from someone’s imagination
I've been saying this for years. Spectacular Spider-Man has been the most faithful adaptation Spider-Man has ever had and maybe ever will have. It is still such a shame that it will never come back. They had plans for I think two more seasons and a movie to end it off.
It was always weird to me that people debated whether it was the fall or the webbing that killed Gwen. Imagine if he hadn't webbed her and people were debating whether it was the fall or the ground that killed her.
I've read all of Spider-Man and this is a very good summary, only 3 parts I'm sad about is 1) no mention of hobgoblin, such a classic character 2) not enough robbie and tombstone (one of my favourite stories) 3) identity crisis saga and peter as scientist while he's off wit MJ during the clone saga deserved a small mention
@@sergioelsergio Morlun is indeed canon in the main series, the 616 Peter Parker is the first Spider-Man in the multiverse to canonically beat Morlun, twice
Hobgoblin is great. But none of his stories contain anything character defining. And only after Ned's death did it really involve Betty Brant. Roderick Kingsley was no Norman Osborne and thats a good thing. I did like how he handled his post Hobgoblin life though. One of the smarter villians in comics.
Well, when his uncle is dead because of his persieved inaction, I'd argue Peter is Spider-Man because of (at least some form of)guilt. I view uncle Ben's death as a guiding principle and/or burden for him. Something that goes without saying. That's why he isn't constantly mentioning him in those early issues, because he really doesn't need to.
@@dante_0962 I take it as Ben always told him stuff similar to "great power, great responsibility", but Peter never really understood what he meant by it, and after his death, it clicked. And to add to that, I like to think for Peter, Ben was always just there for him, so the idea of losing someone that close because of you never really understanding what they were saying really gives a real tragic depth to the character.
I love how much you can date the earlier issues by how peter's face is structured - a lot more wide and robust, given that was closer to the beauty standards of the time.
This is already a masterpiece. Haven't even watched it. Just finished the video. Alex your content is amazing great job dude. Keep up the great work. Can't wait for what's next for you.
@@thekodex1186 The X-Men have so much history through dozens of different series and thousands of characters over 6 different destroyed and retconned timelines and alternate futures and 9 lives of moira x and etc that it would take infinitely longer than this video. The avengers are similar but not quite as complex bcs the avengers are a team made of other characters from other series' whereas the X-Men is a team of original characters meaning that the history of the avengers is the history of the team while the history of the x-men is the history of pretty much everything that has ever happened to mutants ever over millennia
I want to mention early in this video it is said that Peter can never tell Betty Brant he is Spider-man because she blames him for her brothers death, but during the Civil War comic, decades later, when Peter's identity is revealed she is one of the few people supporting him. Character growth.
I like how the different writers that took over the story are just having trouble deciding if the story will be a "Spider-man story" or a "Peter Parker story."
As someone who’s always been addicted to Spider-Man, watching all his movies and buying his merch I always wanted to learn more about him but I have never read the comics. Learning more about his backstory is intriguing and is why I stayed up till 1:25 AM to watch this video.
You should try going to a comic store and buying some random old back issues, it's a really fun experience to just peek into what was going on in the story 40 years ago and occasionally you'll find some really neat stuff
1:10:30 While the Green Goblin or Carnage are often compared to The Joker, it's Doc Ock who _is_ Spider-Man's Joker. He is Spider-Man's antithesis. A scientist, a man who has loved and lost, who has struggled, who has shown indomitable will, who always gets back up when knocked down, a man who combined his unnatural gifts with science to become his greatest self, but unlike Peter he was guided by the philosophy that with great power comes the responsibility of others to worship it. He's that guy who _didn't_ solve climate change. He's the absolute perfect choice to mantle Spider-Man in a meaningful way. The other Spider-Men are ultimately variations on a theme. Ock is the antithesis learning to become Spider-Man.
I couldn’t have said that better myself. Doc Ock’s my absolute favorite and after seeing Alfred Molina portray him in Spider-Man 2 and No Way Home, I have no doubt that he is Spider-Man/Peter Parker’s tragic archenemy.
@@pyropulseIXXI I was quoting the storyline where he becomes Spider-Man. He captures Peter through a scheme where he promises to solve climate change. It turns out he _does_ have the tech he promised, but he's just not going to release it out of bitterness that his legacy was meaningless. It's a punishment for humanity, "I could save you but you didn't worship me". Peter mocks him as the guy who didn't solve climate change. He steals Peter's body to steal his legacy and make it his own, trying to get that worship, but when he steals Peter's body he automatically gains Peter's memories and thus becomes a bit of an amalgam of them and becomes an anti-hero.
@@FHGryphonIRL what do you mean this how can you solve something that is a naturally occurring event the climate changes it's been changing for billions of years with or without us it will continue to change how can you solve that
Always happy to listen to more Spider-Man breakdowns from you Alex, but the way you ended this did bring a smile to my face; I'm stoked to hear you talk about superior in more detail!
this is possibly my favorite youtube video of all time, i’ve watched the full thing multiple times to sleep, study or listen to while on the bus to school. it’s a perfect balance of being interesting but also something able to be background audio if necessary. thank you alex lennen for creating such a brilliant video
Looking back at classic Spider man stories something I love is how Peter supporting cast keeps changing over the years, with the big exemple being in the Steve Ditko and John Romita run. At first his supporting cast was made of characters like Liz Allan, Betty Brant, Aunt May, Foswell but after he went to college some of this character were replace by others (ex: Betty and Liz were replace by MJ and Gwen, Foswell eventually was replaced by Robbie). It really highlight how Spider man stories are about a teenager becoming a man, with Peter losing old friends and relationships and finding new ones as he grows.
As I step into this video, I am excited to experience someone's perspective on my favorite fictional character. He's always taught me different lessons on responsibility and doing the right thing, learning that I do not need to be perfect and I just need to try my best. He even teaches me to deal with self hate in stories like Gwen's death and even his time in Daredevil. I know that you probs won't see this lol but I think that his life has many stages with of course the 60s and his high school time with if this be my destiny and his transition into college life with Gwen when he meets Harry and MJ and Flash Thompson leaving. Then as we near the late 60s, George Stacy dies. And with the iconic story of Norman getting his Goblin side back, comes ASM 121 the death of Gwen Stacy. After that is the iconic first clone saga and many wacky adventures with the new people taking up the Goblin roles. MJ and Peter get together before breaking up and we near the 80s with Roger Stern's run focusing on Peter's life more and his more down to earth nature where he doesn't have much. Nearing the mid to late 80s is one of my favorites, the development of MJ's and Peter's relationship. It works so well and warms my heart. The disaster of the 90s with its clone saga and at 1999 comes JMS to save the day with one of the best Spider-Man runs. Fuck Slott I ain't talking about him. After that is Spencer's spectacular run which brings new life and soul into the character. My top 3 are JMS, his time with MJ and the Romita stuff. Some other runner ups are his time with Roger Stern, Ditko and Spencer. This is my personal experience with Spider-Man 616 and it's nice to see another passionate fan of the comics. Btw, I have a cgc graded 5.5 first full face appearance of Mary Jane AKA ASM 42 because I really enjoy MJ as a character.
@@alexlennen He's that one guy that unites all Spider-Man fans in their dislike for him haha. But jokes aside I do understand growing up with this comics, while I never read it myself my cousin would often hang out with me and describe Slott's run so in some weird way I experienced Slott's run as a wee 6 year old lad.
@@dennisconnors2178 I can't really say that I enjoyed his run necessarily, I'd say I love 1/4 of it, like half of the ideas, and then utterly despise all of the rest of it. So it's quite the mixed bag but I would say overall I do like it decent enough
I was trying to find any story lines of a Spider-Man in his 30's and stumbled across this video. I watched the entire thing, great work man. I really appreciate this and can tell it took a lot of time and perseverance through those sketchy storylines. Keep up the great work.
I’m so glad that you’re gonna do a Superior Spider-Man video. As much as I hate the premise of the story, the execution made it a guilty pleasure for me. Plus it would be a good refresher since its been sooo long since I’ve read it.
@@timvong2154 I mean, spoilers: Of course lol. One thing about Marvel and DC comics is that no death is permanent. Still an interesting take on the character though.
This was just such a blast to watch, I honestly didn't expect the video to cover basically 700 issues of Spider-Man comics, and the fact it ended at the beginning of the Superior Spider-Man arc was just quite surprising. Really looking forward to the next videos!
@@timvong2154 Yeah, he indeed does come back. The explanation is that a little bit of Peter's conscience was still on his body, for a long time Otto tries to block it, but at the end he gives Peter back his body after the green goblin comes back. That's the comic explanation, the real life one was that TASM2 was about to release, so Marvel had to reset things back to the status quo, or people would be weirded out to know Spider-Man wasn't Peter after trying to get into the comics after watching the movie.
This was such an impressive feat, streamlining what's at times a jumbled mess of a comic series into a linear structure, and with it only being barely over an hour, that's insanely impressive. Personal nitpick though, I wish the first appearance of the Hobgoblin was mentioned, or that Hobgoblin in general got a mention since he was a major villain of Spider-Man for a while in the 80's, but you covered so much else that it's more than forgivable.
I cannot explain how grateful I am for you job. It's amazing, man. All of that - your visual, your voice and storytelling, a hell amount of a study that you needed to do to make this video. Thanks a lot, I've read only about 150 volumes of Amazing Spider-Man, but I knew that this is a kinda mess sometimes, so I didn't have any hope to finish them. But you did an amazing job, just wow
real shit it's lowkey an event every time you upload. i've been watching since the ultimate spider-man video and just binge these videos. definitely one of my biggest inspirations to make my own discussion type videos. the fact that you pump out like high quality hour long videos in a month is wild and a testament to your grind. hyped for what comes next.
That was awesome, so much I didn't know that I understand clearly now The final end to the original Spider-Man honestly hurts and slightly upsets me, I know exactly what you mean in the end but part of me still feels that Peter didn't deserve that ending, feels fucked I love Spider-Man, man
12:43 Something you could mention is that, during the issue where Peter tried to remove his power he had dream fighting all his enemies and having flashbacks of his previous adventures (makes sense since it was issue number 100). In the end he has vision of Captain Stacy who tells him to continue to be Spider man saying the famous line : "This is your gift and your curse"
I love the exact moment when Spider-Man's history stops being about a normal guy going through normal things while also being a superhero and starts revolving around clones, the Devil-adjacent, and how he is the fulcrum by which the multiverse rests, and if he were to perish, the universe would along with him. World outside your window.
Thank you for recapping everything perfectly. You captured the image that the creators that put their soul into Spider-Man excellently and somehow put it into one fantastic hour.
I think something that gets overlooked a lot in JMD's Goblin!Harry arc (which might happen less if Marvel ever released it in TPB) is that it's less of a two sperate personality thing ala Norman in the Romita era and more Harry's trauma from his childhood abuse leading him to take on the identity and breaking himself into being the man his father said he should be. Hell, while avenging his father is his goal, his motivation comes more from displacing blame on to Peter and believing that he framed Norman because he can't face the notion that his father killed Gwen. While it's still a superhero story and not necessarily an accurate depiction of mental health, it still feels very grounded and rooted in character. Hell most of JMD's stories are like that, there's a reason he's behind ar least three of the moments detailed in this video. Absolutely underated Spidey writer.
Everyone knows about spiderman due to his popularity. But no one really knows alo of it. Always wanted to know his while mythos. But simply couldn't bring myself to read 1 million and 1 spideman comics. Thanks you for summing it all up interestingly and in a fun way.
This video is so beautifully well made by summarizing the importance of peter's growth and all of who he is. I love the whittyness you added as well. Thank you for your effort and doing Spiderman and us a service.
The fact that you can regularly make videos spanning well over an hour and I know before even watching that they’re going to be incredible because of your consistently great videos
I really love how you told this origin story. It was very informative and the right amount of humor. I’ve listened to this in the background nonstop while working out. I hope you make more of these with other marvel and maybe dc characters in the future only if you’d like.
My grandparents used to have this one issue of spider man where he was fighting with iron man. I never understood why because I was just a little kid, and didn’t have the full context. At 38:31 you show a frame from that exact issue. Thanks for answering a question I forgot I had!
Man, it's nice to find another fan of the Spider-Totem era. I had that bit with Morlun and the teacher arc in a collection book when I was 8, and it really defined Peter Parker's character to me as a decent guy trying to do right by everyone, and failing because he's just a human being and can't be everywhere. As I've grown up and tried to do what I can to fight a lot of the shit that's going on in the world, and really worn myself down emotionally and damaging and repairing some of my relationships as a result, I've found myself relating to it more and more
That part about Spider-Man needing a serum to save aunt May and doc ock conveniently also needed it mirrors devils breath exactly besides who created the serum, I never knew the games took so much lore from the comics
Imagine if the moment peter was about to throw away his entire life with MJ, Aunt May showed up and told Peter about how this is a decision Peter is about to make that disappoints her, confirming both that she is dead and the decision is infact stupid. And in a final moment before Peter makes his true decision she says "Peter, you are the son I couldn't have had and you have made me the proudest aunt I could be, please don't throw that away because you want me back. And remember this, you're not always going to be able to save everyone. You're not Spider-God, you're Spider-Man." It feels like a good conclusion to her character that she teaches Peter the most valuable lesson that sometimes you have to let go of the idea that you can save and protect everyone, but instead they threw in... The other ending.
I stopped reading Spider-Man by the mid-90's, so it's was good to see this to get the gap filled in as to what happened after. Even though my comic collection has been in storage for years, I enjoyed the look back at the years when I was a fan. Really took me back and more than once I got a tear in my ear watching this.
Your content always astounds me just by how well done your videos are despite your low sub count. It shows that many of the best things you have to work to find. This channel is amazing and I can't wait to see what you do with it!
I’ve got to say, this was beautiful and embodies why we love Spider-Man. And it’s why I love the Superior Spider-Man run. Even his villains know he’s always got their back. That last bit got me a bit wispy.
These mini documentaries you do on comic book based characters and ideas are amazing! The amount of research and details you put into your videos are spectacular! Dont give up and keep working hard because your gonna make it!
Hey Alex, I’ve been watching for about 3 months, and I just have to say your extremely underrated. I’m a major marvel fan, and you’ve just made my love for it grow. Keep doing what your doing, your making people happy😊
@@thetoongrump9801 The only issue I have with Spectactular is how they bring in every supporting character from all eras into one era. On one hand, the show does introduce them really well and naturally, not making it feel too crowded. On the other hand, I would have preferred if certain characters would be introduced gradually or in later seasons.
@@dingkong5034the show was meant to go for years and show Spider-Man’s entire career, we would have had a lot of new characters/ storyline’s had it not been canned.
This video is absolutely amazing! I came back from watching the recent Spiderverse movie and my curiosity on Spiderman had peeked. I knew that Wikipedias wouldn't be enough so this video helped a lot!
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For those who missed the message at the end - this video directly leads into my Superior Spider-Man video. If you get confused at the end, go watch that video next. At some point I’ll update this video, covering the post-Secret Wars era of Spider-Man and beyond. Also I still don't know what happened in Spencer's run and quite frankly I don't think he did either, so I'll probably make a separate video on it as well.
Hey just wanted to say the video was incredible and well told and made me tear up at the end when you explained the impact of the end of Peter Parker's story.
Any chance you can cover on Guy Gardner's Warrior series? It's really underrated series since he's well known being Green Lantern, But Guy's ring began to alternate because of his interference with Hal Jordan's Parallax. He got this new suit, which he never liked and this began new series for him just for temporary and he went back being Green Lantern.
Thank you for putting in one second of sin eater it made my day
A-Train is better 😈
The funniest thing about the Kindred arc is that I've yet to see an accurate summery of what happend because the story contradicts itself and everything else every issue by the end. Hell I've seen people assume events incorrectly because that would be the coherent explanation.
So if you do make that video, I highly recommend double checking the details and presenting it as is rather than trying to present it coherently. It's an experience.
“Peter gets bit by a spider, uncle Ben gets bit by a bullet” has got to be one of the best ways to describe spider-man’s origin story
Peter: bite
Ben: pew pew
Ben got the super power to die from his encounter.
Should've been "a bullet gets bit by Uncle Ben" tbf
Uncle Ben got bit by a bullet then why didn't he become bullet man
@@tman3143 nah he would turn into a *stand* user.
I like the fact that a major plot line is caused because of the fact that Doc Ock is just a normal dude. He managed to fight literal superhumans and gods solely because he has extra long arms.
And the fact that majority of superheroes he fought held back their powers and also got lucky.
I mean, his tentacles are also strong as fuck.
@@Latitz "That should keep him out of commission for a Week while he stays in the Hospital recovering from Impact."
-Mark Greyson taking Otto Octavius seriously
And the fact that he is a literal scientific genius
S-tier pfp
My heart skipped a beat when morbius entered the story for 2 seconds
That’s because Morbius is a really interesting and cool Spider-Man villain. I’m not joking. He could be a horrifying villain and have a good backstory but instead we get that movie. I think everyone knows the movie I’m talking about .
@Dumb Pig he IS actually, seems like no adaptions can do him justice
It’s morbing time
@@Ilovecomics4 No, what's it called?
@@Graphomite morbius
I had a spiderman themed party when I was a kid around 8yo and I caught the guy who dressed up as spiderman in my laundry room changing and knew he wasn't spiderman but still pretended he was so he didn't feel like he ruined my b-day. The guy didn't see me when I walked in cause he was facing the other way. Honestly, the whole thing is fuzzy since it was 10 ish years ago but it is still one of the most wholesome memories I have as a kid. Makes me happy makes me smile.
You fool that was Spiderman. I know because it was me
wait did 8-year old you think spider-man could never take off the outfit? lmao
@@asdfoifhvjbkaos he probably just thought it was Tobey Maguire
Nah u just found out spiderman is Peter Parker
That was Spider-Man
To clarify a thing about Kraven's last hunt that this video isn't clear about -
Kraven shot Spider-man with knockout gas or someshit, and then buried him alive. Peter did not literally come back from the dead through sheer force of will.
Not that specific time, anyway.
thanks for clarifying! Peter literally willing himself back from the dead wouldn't be out of character though
@@alexlennen wouldn’t be the last time he would do it
@@alexlennen Ultimate spider-man peter literally just comes back from the dead with noexplanation other than the oz drug
@@jk-nz9bq My headcanon is that it's a clone with Pete's memories. The entire thing about the Ultimate Universe up until that point was that death matters
That sounds way cooler to be honest
I'm not a comic guy, so this video was the first real experience I had learning the "full story" of Spider-Man, even if it's only one iteration of him. That said, I honestly feel like I got close to tears learning about that ending with Peter dying. Complete news to me, that is totally wild and extremely sad.
It's comics, they don't end and characters don't stay dead. Peter came back years ago
@@FDGabe how
@@realperson9951 he was psychically linked with Otto, so after a while they could communicate, then he became the dominant personality. Pretty sure thats it anyway
@@Pattomir1 thanks
@@Pattomir1 Ah, I was wondering if that ever could become a live action movie scenario, but now I'm very doubtful with how absurd the outcome is.
"Peter Parker, 1962 - 2012"
Damn, he lived to be 50 years old and still looked like he was 20
Radioactive spider bites make you age really well.
Also I'm pretty sure the One More Day storyline with Mephisto brought him back to his youth, maybe not a full reset, but far enough to bring Harry back and completely erase his marriage with MJ.
He gets his body back.
Ash Ketchum is still 10 after over 20 years and became a Pokemon Master. I think he's got him beat
It’s basically “Simpson’s Time” where nothing ever progresses and it’s mostly just sliding the timescale forward progressively.
So in the same way Homer somehow both watched Empire Strikes Back with Marge in their 30’s and was in high school when Phantom Menace came out; characters like Punisher have been in the Vietnam War, Gulf War and Iraq War at varying points for their origin story
It’s a bit messy
@alexlennen
00:32 - Season 1: Origins, high school, Betty Brandt, the Sinister Six
05:24 - Season 2: College, Gwen Stacy, Norman Osborne Green Goblin
09:16 - Season 3: Mary Jane Watson, Captain Stacy, amnesia, the Death of Gwen Stacy
14:06 - Season 4: Dating Mary Jane, Harry Osborne Green Goblin, college graduation
17:52 - Season 5: Dating Black Cat, black suit/symbiote, marrying Mary Jane
21:42 - Season 6: Kraven the Hunter, Eddie Brock/Venom
25:19 - Season 7: Carnage, the return of Harry Green Goblin
28:19 - Season 8: The Clone Saga
31:56 - Season 9: Civil War
38:46 - Season 10: One More Day
41:14 - Reboot Season 1: Mr. Negative, Mayor Jameson, Mac Gargan Venom, Anti-Venom
43:34 - Reboot Season 2: Doc Ock's bots, The Rhino, The Lizard, Kraven The Hunter resurrection
46:58 - Reboot Season 3: Agent Venom, the Spider Slayer army
50:15 - Reboot Season 4: The Future Foundation, the Jackal, the Spider Queen, Spider-Island
56:11 - Reboot Season 5: Doc Ock's global warming scheme, The Sinister Six Part II, Silver Sable
1:00:36 - Reboot Season 6: The Lizard, The Superior Spider-Man build-up
Accurate.
14:40 that cut to “Gwen is back?” Was so priceless, perfectly placed, poignant, all of the alliterative adjectives a marvel writer from the 70s would use. Truly tho, such an amazing video with an amazing narrator. You really tie everything together so well and make it constantly entertaining to the viewer. Mad respect.
Those dudes were living thesauruses 💀
Nope, 14:52
@@lifeiscats1337yeah I put it a few seconds early to have some lead up and context to the situation
@mrman1684saw what?
@mrman1684 ah gotcha, sry it was early I just placed the time stamp a little bit early
"Aunt May is just a frail old lady that could be taken out by a paper airplane", "Peter gets bit by a spider, Uncle Ben gets bit by a bullet" this guy makes better scripts for characters than the comics do.
@Man of Tomorrow Still more sales than they do now, no doubt
@@Itariatan pretty obvious since comics are less liked now
@@smallgyro4932 Well, they're less liked cause of the new stuff. The old stuff still sells fine.
@@Itariatan No. Comics are just selling less because the generations have moved on from physical media. The comics that sell are sold by collectors to collectors, the same people who were into it ages ago.
@@Vikt0rian Not saying you're wrong, that's part of the reason definitely
As someone rather unfamiliar with comics I must say I found hilarious the lengths JJ is willing to reach fueled by his hate of Spiderman. Bad press is a thing, but having an ongoing series of murder robots is a new level of hate.
I haven’t read the comics either, but I think JJ should’ve been arrested at some point
it's sper inconsistent over the years lmao, there is a what if story where he does go to prison and stuff tho but lately it's seen in a more sympathetic light since he thinks that spiderman should be held accountable and once he finds out that it's peter he usually tries to help him
The media are the enemy of the people.
@@pickleodessey8452 it amazes me that he still has credibility after sending so many spider slayers on Spider-Man and even makes a supervillain in scorpion.
@@SeseOB2003 Yeah, also I hope we get Scorpion in Tom Hollands Spider Man 4, but I don’t think JJJ should be involved since Scorpion is already a criminal and can just brake out of the prison from Homecoming
Wow early Spidey stories were so dynamic and interesting. The characters actually growing and evolving. It's nuts that peter and mj are just married with no annoying bullshit separating them.
That’s why I only read early Spider-man up to the late nineties.
@@troyschuler186i still read it till 2007
@@troyschuler186That's when I stopped. Right to the point where they brought back Aunt May from the dead, and the one who died was revealed to be a lookalike. They really knew how to cheapen things.
@@poeterritoryplus clone saga should’ve ended with bens death
@@poeterritory I remember that well. I was disappointed when it was revealed to be Aunt May since the story gave me the impression that it was Peter's daughter. It would have lined up well with the Spider-Girl comic series introduced in the late nineties.
23:55 It's worth taking note that Spider Man didnt revealed Eddie's fraudulent jornalism, Eddie was legit, he simply made a report on someone who accused himself of being a certain villain while he wasnt, so when Spider Man actually revealed who the villain was, Eddie was fired for lying in the press. Eddie was good but a series of misunderstandings led to this
you're right, what I meant by fraudulent was that he simply wrote an article that turned out to be a lie, regardless of his intentions. So fraudulent wasn't the right word for it, I think
Dam
Eddie knew the guy was a fake. He didnt care. He thought it was going to advance his career.
@@Hillthugstahe did not. he simply didn't double-check / hadn't anticipated the man would turn out to be a so-called 'serial confesser'. Eddie wasn't perfect but he's been consistent in working hard and wanting the truth to be revealed. adaptations like the 3rd Raimi movie popularized the idea that Eddie purposely falsified something and was a sloppy reporter.
To me, Spider-Man's greatest nemesis isn't Doc Ock, it's not Venom and it's not The Green Goblin
It's a bunch of Marvel editors who are going through a bitter mid-life crisis
I understand how a mid-life crisis could create an "abandoning your family to go back in time to high school" story arc. But what kind of crisis do you have to have to write a "Peter is sleeping with my daughter" story arc?
@@hundredpercentjuice The world may never know
Yes
Plus half the time Doc Ock is the one in the right, especially in the Ps4 game, Peter is straight up evil especially at the end
@@Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1024 He infected the entire city with a deadly virus and refused to give Spider-Man the cure to save everyone until he got his own revenge? How is Doc Ock in the right?
Although I am a bit disappointed that you didn't cover the Superior Spider-Man era and the years after it in this video, the fact that you plan to cover it in the future plus the sheer amount of content you covered in this video is one hell of a feat. Eagerly awaiting the next Spidey video!
I actually was going to put an explanation at the end about how Superior deserves to be its own video + Spencer's run is too fresh rn, but my iMovie project physically wouldn't let me at that point
@@alexlennen Superior Spider-Man, while having some of Slott's usual questionable antics, was overall really good, so I can't wait to see you cover it. Otto is a really interesting Spider-Man, but Superior Spider-Man also shows why Peter Parker is the definitive Spider-Man, no shade at others like Miles or Miguel. When we think of Spider-Man, the first thing that comes to mind is Peter, and Superior Spider-Man showed us why, especially in its ending.
P.S. I'm still kinda pissed that the writers made Otto make a deal with Mephisto to turn him back into a villain again... like, wtf... if Venom can be a full blown hero and have his own Avengers-level crossover event, why can't Otto...
@@alexlennen You made this in iMovie? God
@@runbaa9285 Wasn't the ending a bit rushed in conclusion due to the Marvel's need of getting Peter back before ASM2 came into cinemas? For me the conflict was resolved too artificially when Otto just give up all of the sudden any attempts to find other solutions for the problem while it was shown very easy for Peter to defeat Osborn - all it needed is stand in front of Green Goblin for him to abandon all plans of taking down New York!
The one thing that will always bug me about Superior is the portrayal of Peter's supporting cast, especially MJ. How did MJ of all people not know what was going on with Peter? This is the same person that knew someone was posing as Spider-Man during KLH and beat the crap out of Chameleon after he tried disguising himself as Peter. Her characterization is everything that despise about post-OMD stories featuring her, aside from Spencer's run.
38:45 I AM SO GLAD YOU SAID THIS. One More Day made me sick. Everyone acted so out of character, and since this story I haven't really been able to read much of Spider-Man comics since then... The early 2000s Spider-Man was just so, so good and mature and built on so many years of lore.
Hard agree. Even the good stories they've had post OMD have been sort of tainted by the canon being reset so hard. Imagine how much more complex Superior would have been if Peter being married to MJ complicated the situation of Otto trying to steal his identity? Same with Spider Island or Red Goblin. OMD has made normally mid stories bad, normally great stories just good and normally bad stories terrible. It feels like a big debuff on ASM that just sort of takes it down a notch no matter where it's at.
I’ll never get tired of the neverending love story between Jameson and his beloved spider slayers
I find it extremely hilarious that sm kept a cloth version of the black suit just for the drip and so incredibly sweet that what makes him give it up is a response to his wife's trauma. Really progressive for its time
No such thing as 'progressive.' Humans are the same as they've ever been. What has changed is technology and the propaganda you've been fed
Didn’t Peter make it to make black cat we-
thats not progressive thats just being a good person
That’s not progressive. It’s called being a good husband
And then he just goes: “fuck this Aunt May is dying so might as well become edgy again”
Damn that part with morbius really does hit different after all the memes. Like no way can I ever take this character serious anymore
came to the comments looking for a single person talking about morbius, and here I find you literally 4 seconds ago
I forgot Morbius is a Spiderman villain and got major whiplash when he just appeared out of nowhere
Something, something, "it's Morbin' time".
You know I wonder how Leto feels thinking he would be a badass antihero but became a meme.
Did anyone else hear the Morbius rap by Eminem playing in their head during the Morbius parts?
Stop pretending that you knew anything about morbius before the film
I think it's cool, during the early years of Spider-man the comics had an actual continuity, while Batman and Superman were both basically still random hijinks at the time.
Yes, under Romita especially it really became like a soap opera. That was the peak in my view.
I think it’s because Marvel had actual themes for Spidey like high school relationships and gang wars, while Batman and especially Superman could get away with gimmick of the week shenanigans
I always assumed that all of these different Spider-Man stories were all separate takes on the character, and when something incredibly horrible happened in one Spider-Man comic that it’s okay, because there’s always another status quoe Spider-Man around. That is still true, and there are always other comic runs of spider man with similar backstory’s, movie Spider-Man and video game Spider-Man, all with their own story’s that pick and choose certain aspects of the character and the world to make their own unique story and world. But seeing these story’s connected and strung all together is truly something else
Ur right abt that
Wait are all these stories about the same spider man or not?
Sorry for the dumb question
You can always try to wrap your head on the thought that all other Spiders are just taking part in this storyline, but in another universe. Or tou can just ignore it, like I do.
@@dude9318 Definitely not a dumb question, it can be hard to follow! But in this video yes, it follows the same Peter (with the exception of the whole clone swap thing.)
@@dude9318 Yes, this is the original Spider-Man, the one that is going since 1963. Also know as Spider-Man 616, is the first one and every other media was based on his comics.
"Fragile old woman who could be taken out by a paper airplane" is easily the best description of Aunt May I think I'll ever hear.
Not even being hyperbolic, you have become one of my favorite comic book youtubers. The passion you give off in your videos are infectious. The quality in your videos are up there with Comics Explained, Comicstorian, ComicTropes and Casually Comics (some of my favorite comic RUclipsrs) Always looking forward to a new vid, fantastic work in every single upload.
Thank you! I see you didn't mention Owen Likes Comics AKA my mortal enemy who must be destroyed. Glad to know you're on the right side
W video
@@alexlennen 😂
no comicpop? they are hilariously gd
@@luffytaro-jg5ow yeah, Alex and ComicPop are the best
I do love how far the idea of Spiderman and Peter Parker is pushed. A LOT of the dynamics Spiderman has are mainly focused on the idea of how people look at him and how they look at Peter.
Jamason likes Peter, hates Spiderman
Flash hates Peter, LOVES Spiderman
Aunt May loves Peter, neutral on Spiderman
And the public kind of shows this in full force, when Spiderman does something wrong he's lambasted by Jamason and everyone who hates him. When he does something truly amazing you'll see Flash there to compliment him.
But Aunt May is kind of the outlier that matters MOST. Since when SHE compliments Spiderman despite how little she cares you know he did something truly good. It's almost like a dopamine hit with how each of the characters are used. At the end of a comic we see them there, telling us how the general community feels about Spiderman, whether bad or good.
Aunt may is Def not neutral on spiderman she fucking hates him
Not sure if you are a father Alex but you are on point: a still born is one of the most devastating things an expecting parent can go through. I never understood it until my wife and I had a still born. Thanks for that small nod to one of life’s most difficult seasons.
Damn, my condolences.
My parents had a still born before my mother got pregnant with my big brother. And yes. Even if like 27 years had been passed since that incident happened, they are still really sad about it...
Sorry for your loss, thanks for being willing to share though
I always thought Alex was a teen
@Damsen I suppose you have to expereince a stillbith to understand the full emotional turmoil of looseing a life inside you or your spouse. I did not understand it until my wife and I went through it. Making a new baby does help heal but you still feel the emptyiness inside.
Retrospectively realizing how unimportant Hobgoblin was is a real treat, thank you for that, it made my day
Hobgoblin has some pretty good stories I suppose, it's just funny that his gimmick is "Green Goblin, but what if he was orange"
Paste-Pot Pete had more screen time, rightfully so
@@alexlennen Hobgoblin should have arcane powers, it would be a lot cooler
I didnt even realize he skipped Hobgoblin until he mentioned Ned being dead during the wedding lol
He could've actually been relevant if not for that one editor ruining it
When Peter asks himself while in otto's body "what did I do to deserve this?" I couldn't help but think about how he made a deal with the devil at the end of the day because of he fails to make the right choice many times, and it's poetic he dies an unsung hero who kinda did sell his soul to the devil metaphorically bu bargaining with him in the first place. Also from a meta perspective it's sad how marvel forced their golden child to do such terrible things and to die so unceremoniously and yet it does add to the depth of the text regarding his entire publication history and life as a fictional character.
My favorite character ever, and a great video!
This kind of mindset really bothers me. OMD was just bad writing, plain and simple. The idea of Peter making a deal with the devil is insane, and it shouldn't be in comics period, that's WHY it's bad writing. It bothers me because Peter literally died in ASM 700, and people used OMD as an excuse to justify it. He asked himself "What did I do to deserve this?", and in short, he didn't. Peter was a victim of Otto's plan to steal Peter's body and leave him for dead. There's no hidden meaning or moral ambiguity, Otto was just a criminal that got away with murdering someone using his own cancer-ridden body. I've seen friends and family members succumb to cancer over time, NO ONE deserves that. The fact that Slott weaponized cancer just to sell a comic book is disgusting, and people trying to argue that he deserved it after OMD is even worse.
@@Rantandum I never got why people used OMD to prove that point, hell Peter doesn't even remember any of that shit
@@Rantandum OMD is one of the worst comics of all time. It made me stop reading comics altogether
But MJ still thinks she is with Peter when she is sleeping with an old dude 😍
@@isok5221 why would she think that?
i just love how the art evolves throughout the years as the story progresses
Seeing how spider man evolved is heartwarming but it also made me see how the only big flaw in the story is how the editors of marvel always wanted him to keep being spider man of the neighborhood and not the spider man as he ages and grows. Even watching the video I can see how the history and years of story telling being constantly rebooted or reset can be tiring but there are a few good gems in because of it
Well, since Miles Morales is becoming more popular, as well as Mayday becoming a thing due to the movie, I think they can actually have Peter live a happy life, while having both Miles and Mayday as the main spider people. I just the man to have a happy life.
Mayday was a thing long before the movie. There were several versions of her before the movie: The teenage brunette Mayday, the redheaded Annie-May, and Claire.
@@eldorado6008miles isnt more popular and he shouldnt became the main spidey.
It’s really cool to see the art style develop over time, it shows how much progress Spider-Man has been through
the new art looks way too fake and devoid of any soul
@@pyropulseIXXI nah
Steve ditkos spiderman is still the best version
@@NickGuy0320I gotta go with McFarlane
@@NickGuy0320 who
You know when you look at it the way this video shows, it’s a surprisingly complete story. For a comic that’s had a billion different writers that is.
yeah. people love to overreact about that even though its fine.
@@tracark2255 it does mean a lot of things are inconsistent and there is no end but that’s to be expected at this point
A completely nonsensical incoherent story......
If you really think about it, Spider-Man hasn’t been around for that long, he was created in the 60’s, which is only a couple decades ago.
@@Im2lazy4thisCrita couple?
8:39 “her beauty…”
Mary Jane: 👁️👄 👁️
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This just showed me how close the Spectacular Spider Man TV Show followed the source material and how much of a crime it is that it got canned in 2 seasons
the first 20-30 minutes of the video feels like describing the show and what it was setting up
I adore that show. I watched it as it aired as a kid, and I am still upset that it got canceled. It was SO perfect.
@@stephenc281 Good news, its getting a reference in the new Spider-verse movie.
The 90s animated series also followed a lot of the source material to the point that I thought Spectacular Spiderman and the Raimi films were just ripping off the 90s series lol
@@shanemiller1182the 90s animated show was the best hands down even tops all the movies in my opinion
DUDE LITERALLYYYY UGH IT WAS THE BEST SHOW EVERRER
“For every Kaven’s Last Hunt, there’s a One Last Day” that’s truly and honestly the best way to describe Spider-Man comics now
I never realized how faithful spectacular spiderman was to original comic, which after watching the first part of this video has made me miss and appreciate it even more. The spiderman story has always been a favorite of mine not only because of Peter, but also because of the many characters he is able to interact with. The villains, heroes, friends, and even sometimes just the people he saves all have some form of relatability to them which is just incredible to me.
Marvel's Spider-Man is pretty comic accurate too. Unfortunately it's based on the dogshit Dan Slott run. Luckily it's much, much better than the actual run
Spectacular proved to me that comic book media deserves animation more than live action, Don't get me wrong, I love alot of the live action stuff, but the comic book style is the long running story arc in little bite sized things each week, month. whatever.
I was just about to say that as well
@@IStandForTJandTAW Exactly
@@IStandForTJandTAW it just makes more sense than live action too
"There is no reward at the end"
No... For Peter Parker, doing that, saving people IS the reward itself ❤
I love the panel where Morbius fights Dr. Connors and Dr. Connors says "It's lizarding time" and lizards Morbius, 10/10
they beter add that to the mORBIUS cINEMATIC uNIVERSE
I can't stop laughing at this comment
Not as good as when Morbius morbed all over Billy Conner’s grave and desecrated his corpse
Even a lizard can go morbin
the comic ever made ngl tbh
16:54 Doc Ock tried to marry Aunt May because she inherited a nuclear power plant from a distant relative in Canada. Hammerhead and Spider-Man ruined his plan by crashing the wedding and Hammerhead stupidly head butted the nuclear power plant’s control room, causing the whole base to explode. Spidey and Aunt May escaped, all the henchmen didn’t, Doc Ock survived by wrapping himself in his tentacles, and Hammerhead got temporarily turned into a spooky science ghost. Apparently nobody in Canada cared about the gigantic explosion or nuclear fallout, and everything went back to the status quo. 10/10 story :)
wait, they had the wedding at the power plant? Haha how did they justify that?
@@Yarblocosifilitico No, but that would've been funny! They had the wedding at a normal church, but since Spiderman and Hammerhead crashed the ceremony Doc Ock escaped on a helicopter with Aunt May to go to the nuclear reactor. The wedding wasn't even finished so it's not like Octavius had any legal right to the reactor, and the reactor wasn't heavily guarded either so god only knows why Octavius bothered with the wedding at all and didn't just take the reactor by force. Later comics would retcon it that Doc Ock actually had feelings for May, but at the time it was just some Bronze age comic weirdness.
@@OkMakuTree oh, ok, that makes more sense x)
I just like how morbius just randomly shows up every 30 years , morbs up shit, then leaves.
Also I’ve used Morbin so much that my phone auto generates it.
Banger video as usual Alex
Crazy to see how you keep up the quality with over an hours worth of content
Friendlocke season 4
hi salty
what are your opinions on pineapple lord
SALTY DK DAN?!?!?
The funny man
@@ruskah0307 salty tried to buy the rights to Pineapple Lord but I turned him down
Keep up the good work man. Your entire body of work is actually insane but in a good way. I haven’t watched a video of yours that I haven’t enjoyed and to have that experience every single time is actually just phenomenal. Can’t wait to see what the next video will be
I remember being 11 when Peter “died”. The way Otto’s decaying body looked scared me. I never got into comic books but because of the news of Peter dying I found comicstorian a channel all about comic book stories and from there i came all the way here. Time really flies.
I had the same experience, seeing what ock had been reduced to and Peter having to experience that inspired this morbid (ha) curiosity that lead me to read it more and many other comics
I love Comicstorian
Wait that was your first (that didn’t get you into) comic, even if not it’s weird to think of a escenario where a kid and family that don’t know much about the storyline and anything and just have the friendly neighborhood Spider-Man and decide to buy him the latest comic which just so happened to be that one
19:54 "Taking down such villains as Black Fox, Jack-o'-lantern, and US Government" love it XD
The silver age comic art will never get old. So much soul in every panel.
Silver age comics are freakin' awesome, you can feel the love put into them just looking at the art
Agreed, it has such a timeless style. The bright colors, thick shading, and simply colored backgrounds make it feel almost surreal, like the images are ripped directly from someone’s imagination
So I'm assuming that the silver age is the style in Pete's early years. If so, the only thing I don't like is the face. They can creep me out.
Faces*
Example of silver age comic pls
12:50 I like how morbius got in the way and said “its morbin time” and made us excited about this comic
I love when he said “it’s morbin’ time” and morbed spiderman
I had no idea how similar spectacular Spider-Man was to his first ever comics
Well to be fair spectacular mixes both school and college years into one narrative but generally you are correct.
I thought the spectacular spider man Harry looked like a dork because I had James Franco in mind. What do you know, very accurate adaptation
I've been saying this for years. Spectacular Spider-Man has been the most faithful adaptation Spider-Man has ever had and maybe ever will have. It is still such a shame that it will never come back. They had plans for I think two more seasons and a movie to end it off.
I feel like '90s cartoon was even more accurate.
@Damsen LMAO, I have the complete opposite taste. The semi realistic art style is just gross to me, gimme highly expressive cartoon people!
As an 80s kid from the GDR, I never hat a flying chance to ever get deeply into the Spider-Man lore. Thank you for summing up everything!
Lenin lore
It was always weird to me that people debated whether it was the fall or the webbing that killed Gwen. Imagine if he hadn't webbed her and people were debating whether it was the fall or the ground that killed her.
I've read all of Spider-Man and this is a very good summary, only 3 parts I'm sad about is
1) no mention of hobgoblin, such a classic character
2) not enough robbie and tombstone (one of my favourite stories)
3) identity crisis saga and peter as scientist while he's off wit MJ during the clone saga deserved a small mention
Hobgoblin was my favorite Spider-Man Villian. A sane version of the Green Goblin.
Also Spider-Bite, the stories with Daredevil, Deadpool and Wolverine, and the fight with Morlum, but I don't know if that's canon in the main series.
@@sergioelsergio Morlun is indeed canon in the main series, the 616 Peter Parker is the first Spider-Man in the multiverse to canonically beat Morlun, twice
Hobgoblin is great. But none of his stories contain anything character defining. And only after Ned's death did it really involve Betty Brant. Roderick Kingsley was no Norman Osborne and thats a good thing. I did like how he handled his post Hobgoblin life though. One of the smarter villians in comics.
Well, when his uncle is dead because of his persieved inaction, I'd argue Peter is Spider-Man because of (at least some form of)guilt. I view uncle Ben's death as a guiding principle and/or burden for him. Something that goes without saying. That's why he isn't constantly mentioning him in those early issues, because he really doesn't need to.
very nicely put
@@alexlennen thx
@@alexlennen what happened to your crack?
I prefer this then uncle Ben just telling him out of nowhere.
@@dante_0962 I take it as Ben always told him stuff similar to "great power, great responsibility", but Peter never really understood what he meant by it, and after his death, it clicked.
And to add to that, I like to think for Peter, Ben was always just there for him, so the idea of losing someone that close because of you never really understanding what they were saying really gives a real tragic depth to the character.
I love how much you can date the earlier issues by how peter's face is structured - a lot more wide and robust, given that was closer to the beauty standards of the time.
This is already a masterpiece. Haven't even watched it.
Just finished the video. Alex your content is amazing great job dude. Keep up the great work. Can't wait for what's next for you.
Agreed
Fact.
Yes.
We just already know
Yup.
This was actually really entertaining, Would love to see this format applied to other super heroes.
Could you imagine one of the Avengers or X-Men?
Yeah I agree, it would be much easier that way
@@thekodex1186 The X-Men have so much history through dozens of different series and thousands of characters over 6 different destroyed and retconned timelines and alternate futures and 9 lives of moira x and etc that it would take infinitely longer than this video.
The avengers are similar but not quite as complex bcs the avengers are a team made of other characters from other series' whereas the X-Men is a team of original characters meaning that the history of the avengers is the history of the team while the history of the x-men is the history of pretty much everything that has ever happened to mutants ever over millennia
@@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 Yeah, a history of the X-Men would be insanely convoluted if short and insanely long if explained conciveably lol
I want to mention early in this video it is said that Peter can never tell Betty Brant he is Spider-man because she blames him for her brothers death, but during the Civil War comic, decades later, when Peter's identity is revealed she is one of the few people supporting him. Character growth.
I like how the different writers that took over the story are just having trouble deciding if the story will be a "Spider-man story" or a "Peter Parker story."
As someone who’s always been addicted to Spider-Man, watching all his movies and buying his merch I always wanted to learn more about him but I have never read the comics. Learning more about his backstory is intriguing and is why I stayed up till 1:25 AM to watch this video.
You should try going to a comic store and buying some random old back issues, it's a really fun experience to just peek into what was going on in the story 40 years ago and occasionally you'll find some really neat stuff
That is so creepy that I too stayed up until 1:24 AM watching this video
1:10:30 While the Green Goblin or Carnage are often compared to The Joker, it's Doc Ock who _is_ Spider-Man's Joker. He is Spider-Man's antithesis. A scientist, a man who has loved and lost, who has struggled, who has shown indomitable will, who always gets back up when knocked down, a man who combined his unnatural gifts with science to become his greatest self, but unlike Peter he was guided by the philosophy that with great power comes the responsibility of others to worship it. He's that guy who _didn't_ solve climate change. He's the absolute perfect choice to mantle Spider-Man in a meaningful way. The other Spider-Men are ultimately variations on a theme. Ock is the antithesis learning to become Spider-Man.
I couldn’t have said that better myself. Doc Ock’s my absolute favorite and after seeing Alfred Molina portray him in Spider-Man 2 and No Way Home, I have no doubt that he is Spider-Man/Peter Parker’s tragic archenemy.
solve climate change? Doesn't even make sense
@@pyropulseIXXI I was quoting the storyline where he becomes Spider-Man. He captures Peter through a scheme where he promises to solve climate change. It turns out he _does_ have the tech he promised, but he's just not going to release it out of bitterness that his legacy was meaningless. It's a punishment for humanity, "I could save you but you didn't worship me". Peter mocks him as the guy who didn't solve climate change. He steals Peter's body to steal his legacy and make it his own, trying to get that worship, but when he steals Peter's body he automatically gains Peter's memories and thus becomes a bit of an amalgam of them and becomes an anti-hero.
@@pyropulseIXXI watch the video or read the comics. Yes it does.
@@FHGryphonIRL what do you mean this how can you solve something that is a naturally occurring event the climate changes it's been changing for billions of years with or without us it will continue to change how can you solve that
Always happy to listen to more Spider-Man breakdowns from you Alex, but the way you ended this did bring a smile to my face; I'm stoked to hear you talk about superior in more detail!
Fucking hell.the fact it all connects together from issues 1 to 700 is amazing.
That ending got me surprisingly emotional. How nutty would it be if we go a Superior Spider-Man adaptation in the Insomniac games
12:49
Peter: wants to get rid of 4 arms
Moribus: It’s Morbin’ time
mOrBiN tIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIImE!
It’s always Morbin time
Peter’s idea of not holding back is beating a man almost to death, covering him in chemicals and lighting him on fire is pretty hilarious.
this is possibly my favorite youtube video of all time, i’ve watched the full thing multiple times to sleep, study or listen to while on the bus to school. it’s a perfect balance of being interesting but also something able to be background audio if necessary. thank you alex lennen for creating such a brilliant video
Looking back at classic Spider man stories something I love is how Peter supporting cast keeps changing over the years, with the big exemple being in the Steve Ditko and John Romita run. At first his supporting cast was made of characters like Liz Allan, Betty Brant, Aunt May, Foswell but after he went to college some of this character were replace by others (ex: Betty and Liz were replace by MJ and Gwen, Foswell eventually was replaced by Robbie). It really highlight how Spider man stories are about a teenager becoming a man, with Peter losing old friends and relationships and finding new ones as he grows.
As I step into this video, I am excited to experience someone's perspective on my favorite fictional character. He's always taught me different lessons on responsibility and doing the right thing, learning that I do not need to be perfect and I just need to try my best. He even teaches me to deal with self hate in stories like Gwen's death and even his time in Daredevil. I know that you probs won't see this lol but I think that his life has many stages with of course the 60s and his high school time with if this be my destiny and his transition into college life with Gwen when he meets Harry and MJ and Flash Thompson leaving. Then as we near the late 60s, George Stacy dies. And with the iconic story of Norman getting his Goblin side back, comes ASM 121 the death of Gwen Stacy. After that is the iconic first clone saga and many wacky adventures with the new people taking up the Goblin roles. MJ and Peter get together before breaking up and we near the 80s with Roger Stern's run focusing on Peter's life more and his more down to earth nature where he doesn't have much. Nearing the mid to late 80s is one of my favorites, the development of MJ's and Peter's relationship. It works so well and warms my heart. The disaster of the 90s with its clone saga and at 1999 comes JMS to save the day with one of the best Spider-Man runs. Fuck Slott I ain't talking about him. After that is Spencer's spectacular run which brings new life and soul into the character. My top 3 are JMS, his time with MJ and the Romita stuff. Some other runner ups are his time with Roger Stern, Ditko and Spencer. This is my personal experience with Spider-Man 616 and it's nice to see another passionate fan of the comics. Btw, I have a cgc graded 5.5 first full face appearance of Mary Jane AKA ASM 42 because I really enjoy MJ as a character.
I am mixed on Slott because he frustrates me but I also grew up reading his comics. I kinda admire his ability to annoy everyone for fun
@@alexlennen He's that one guy that unites all Spider-Man fans in their dislike for him haha. But jokes aside I do understand growing up with this comics, while I never read it myself my cousin would often hang out with me and describe Slott's run so in some weird way I experienced Slott's run as a wee 6 year old lad.
@@dennisconnors2178 I actually genuinely like Dan Slott's run, or parts of it
@@-Teague- To each their own, I'm glad you enjoyed it.
@@dennisconnors2178 I can't really say that I enjoyed his run necessarily, I'd say I love 1/4 of it, like half of the ideas, and then utterly despise all of the rest of it. So it's quite the mixed bag but I would say overall I do like it decent enough
I was trying to find any story lines of a Spider-Man in his 30's and stumbled across this video. I watched the entire thing, great work man. I really appreciate this and can tell it took a lot of time and perseverance through those sketchy storylines. Keep up the great work.
"morbius suddenly barges in" definitely one of the morbius moments ever
I’m so glad that you’re gonna do a Superior Spider-Man video. As much as I hate the premise of the story, the execution made it a guilty pleasure for me. Plus it would be a good refresher since its been sooo long since I’ve read it.
Ok wait I’m new to comics so does the original Spider-Man (the one that died in ottos body) ever come back?
@@timvong2154 I mean, spoilers: Of course lol. One thing about Marvel and DC comics is that no death is permanent. Still an interesting take on the character though.
@NIM Goliath
@@Nwakanma1 You can revive every Cape that has a big name. But you'll never get back lesser characters like Lian Harper.
This was just such a blast to watch, I honestly didn't expect the video to cover basically 700 issues of Spider-Man comics, and the fact it ended at the beginning of the Superior Spider-Man arc was just quite surprising.
Really looking forward to the next videos!
Ok wait I’m new to comics so does the original Spider-Man (the one that died in ottos body) ever come back?
@@timvong2154 Yeah, he indeed does come back.
The explanation is that a little bit of Peter's conscience was still on his body, for a long time Otto tries to block it, but at the end he gives Peter back his body after the green goblin comes back.
That's the comic explanation, the real life one was that TASM2 was about to release, so Marvel had to reset things back to the status quo, or people would be weirded out to know Spider-Man wasn't Peter after trying to get into the comics after watching the movie.
This was such an impressive feat, streamlining what's at times a jumbled mess of a comic series into a linear structure, and with it only being barely over an hour, that's insanely impressive.
Personal nitpick though, I wish the first appearance of the Hobgoblin was mentioned, or that Hobgoblin in general got a mention since he was a major villain of Spider-Man for a while in the 80's, but you covered so much else that it's more than forgivable.
I cannot explain how grateful I am for you job. It's amazing, man. All of that - your visual, your voice and storytelling, a hell amount of a study that you needed to do to make this video.
Thanks a lot, I've read only about 150 volumes of Amazing Spider-Man, but I knew that this is a kinda mess sometimes, so I didn't have any hope to finish them.
But you did an amazing job, just wow
real shit it's lowkey an event every time you upload. i've been watching since the ultimate spider-man video and just binge these videos. definitely one of my biggest inspirations to make my own discussion type videos. the fact that you pump out like high quality hour long videos in a month is wild and a testament to your grind. hyped for what comes next.
That was awesome, so much I didn't know that I understand clearly now
The final end to the original Spider-Man honestly hurts and slightly upsets me, I know exactly what you mean in the end but part of me still feels that Peter didn't deserve that ending, feels fucked
I love Spider-Man, man
Thats exactly same thing as happens with these constant reboots on big screen.
Also, MJ is sleeping with and old dude
that was a great way to end peter parker (but obviously marvel resurrected him :( )
What happened?
@@dr.trousers6101 watch to the end bro
12:43 Something you could mention is that, during the issue where Peter tried to remove his power he had dream fighting all his enemies and having flashbacks of his previous adventures (makes sense since it was issue number 100). In the end he has vision of Captain Stacy who tells him to continue to be Spider man saying the famous line : "This is your gift and your curse"
Love how Gwen's clone seems to just disappear from the comics entirely
I always thought Ben should have gotten with Gwen's clone. I mean they're both clones it makes sense
@lilacmoon6
I thought she became 616 Spider-Gwen or something?
@@MarvinPowell1 Huh? Where did you get that from?
she was in spider-island in the beginning but alex didn't mention it in the video
@@BaconManGaming101she dird
I love the exact moment when Spider-Man's history stops being about a normal guy going through normal things while also being a superhero and starts revolving around clones, the Devil-adjacent, and how he is the fulcrum by which the multiverse rests, and if he were to perish, the universe would along with him.
World outside your window.
Thank you for recapping everything perfectly. You captured the image that the creators that put their soul into Spider-Man excellently and somehow put it into one fantastic hour.
Seeing Morbius used as an actual Spider-Man villain is so surreal
Polates helps
I love your storytelling because it just goes straight to the point and Js passes it immediately giving a comedic effect lmao
I think something that gets overlooked a lot in JMD's Goblin!Harry arc (which might happen less if Marvel ever released it in TPB) is that it's less of a two sperate personality thing ala Norman in the Romita era and more Harry's trauma from his childhood abuse leading him to take on the identity and breaking himself into being the man his father said he should be. Hell, while avenging his father is his goal, his motivation comes more from displacing blame on to Peter and believing that he framed Norman because he can't face the notion that his father killed Gwen.
While it's still a superhero story and not necessarily an accurate depiction of mental health, it still feels very grounded and rooted in character. Hell most of JMD's stories are like that, there's a reason he's behind ar least three of the moments detailed in this video. Absolutely underated Spidey writer.
Amazing work man! Being able to fit 50 years of comics into a cohesive narrative only a little over an hour is no small task
Everyone knows about spiderman due to his popularity. But no one really knows alo of it. Always wanted to know his while mythos. But simply couldn't bring myself to read 1 million and 1 spideman comics. Thanks you for summing it all up interestingly and in a fun way.
This video is so beautifully well made by summarizing the importance of peter's growth and all of who he is. I love the whittyness you added as well. Thank you for your effort and doing Spiderman and us a service.
The fact that you can regularly make videos spanning well over an hour and I know before even watching that they’re going to be incredible because of your consistently great videos
I really love how you told this origin story. It was very informative and the right amount of humor. I’ve listened to this in the background nonstop while working out. I hope you make more of these with other marvel and maybe dc characters in the future only if you’d like.
My grandparents used to have this one issue of spider man where he was fighting with iron man. I never understood why because I was just a little kid, and didn’t have the full context. At 38:31 you show a frame from that exact issue. Thanks for answering a question I forgot I had!
Venom: “you have cancer bro, I’m the one keeping you alive.”
Eddie: *actually gets cancer*
Venom: “yeah, about that…”
Man, it's nice to find another fan of the Spider-Totem era. I had that bit with Morlun and the teacher arc in a collection book when I was 8, and it really defined Peter Parker's character to me as a decent guy trying to do right by everyone, and failing because he's just a human being and can't be everywhere. As I've grown up and tried to do what I can to fight a lot of the shit that's going on in the world, and really worn myself down emotionally and damaging and repairing some of my relationships as a result, I've found myself relating to it more and more
That part about Spider-Man needing a serum to save aunt May and doc ock conveniently also needed it mirrors devils breath exactly besides who created the serum, I never knew the games took so much lore from the comics
I mean, when you have 60 years worth of source material it’s kinda hard not to have some overlap in story threads and plot points
It's too bad the game took this shit Spiderman stories instead of the good ones
@@moonknightish Insomniac's Spider-Man made the story good.
Imagine if the moment peter was about to throw away his entire life with MJ, Aunt May showed up and told Peter about how this is a decision Peter is about to make that disappoints her, confirming both that she is dead and the decision is infact stupid. And in a final moment before Peter makes his true decision she says "Peter, you are the son I couldn't have had and you have made me the proudest aunt I could be, please don't throw that away because you want me back. And remember this, you're not always going to be able to save everyone. You're not Spider-God, you're Spider-Man." It feels like a good conclusion to her character that she teaches Peter the most valuable lesson that sometimes you have to let go of the idea that you can save and protect everyone, but instead they threw in... The other ending.
I stopped reading Spider-Man by the mid-90's, so it's was good to see this to get the gap filled in as to what happened after. Even though my comic collection has been in storage for years, I enjoyed the look back at the years when I was a fan. Really took me back and more than once I got a tear in my ear watching this.
Yes I also had a tear in my ear that is where my tear ducts are
Your content always astounds me just by how well done your videos are despite your low sub count. It shows that many of the best things you have to work to find. This channel is amazing and I can't wait to see what you do with it!
Is 100k really a low sub count for like a year of making content but yeah agreed
I’ve got to say, this was beautiful and embodies why we love Spider-Man. And it’s why I love the Superior Spider-Man run. Even his villains know he’s always got their back. That last bit got me a bit wispy.
I remember this channel barely passing a couple thousand, man you’ve come a long way. ROAD TO 1MIL!!
Kraven standing over Peter’s grave in his suit is fckin cold.
These mini documentaries you do on comic book based characters and ideas are amazing! The amount of research and details you put into your videos are spectacular! Dont give up and keep working hard because your gonna make it!
Hey Alex, I’ve been watching for about 3 months, and I just have to say your extremely underrated. I’m a major marvel fan, and you’ve just made my love for it grow. Keep doing what your doing, your making people happy😊
Honestly I'd like to see a well animated spider-man series of these original stories
Spectacular Spider-Man says hi lol. It’s the most comic accurate of the animated series. It’s not 1:1 but it’s very very close.
@@thetoongrump9801 The only issue I have with Spectactular is how they bring in every supporting character from all eras into one era. On one hand, the show does introduce them really well and naturally, not making it feel too crowded. On the other hand, I would have preferred if certain characters would be introduced gradually or in later seasons.
@@dingkong5034the show was meant to go for years and show Spider-Man’s entire career, we would have had a lot of new characters/ storyline’s had it not been canned.
This video is absolutely amazing! I came back from watching the recent Spiderverse movie and my curiosity on Spiderman had peeked. I knew that Wikipedias wouldn't be enough so this video helped a lot!