Why Superman VS Hulk Isn't Even Close!
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- Опубликовано: 16 май 2024
- Superman vs Hulk. Its the most iconic comic book fight out there, but today, well I’m gonna show you why this fight has never even been close
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I just love it when a being that can see, think, and react in nanoseconds can't dodge a punch.
😂 underrated comment
Probably just means the punch is just as fast or faster, basic scaling
Sentry,Silver Surfer, and many speedsters have all lost to Hulk…so come up with something better
That's the thing about comic book characters, they make a ridiculously powerful hero just to make him fight a stronger villain, making their powers kinda useless. What's the point of making your character faster than light when everyone they face can react to them.
Or a character like Batman can be punched 5000 times in the face, throughout his life. But has never been shot in the face.
Same applies to Spiderman, Cap, Daredevil, Falcon, who can dodge bullets all day from hitting their face, but manage to get punched in the face at least twice per issue.
It's not close because of writers. It depends who you like more. Then someone will just argue with a different version. Just like who you like. Doesn't matter.
Exactly
Yeah these writers just make me mad why give character these great feats but then u have Godzilla vs Justice League vs Kong and superman gets one shot like what's the point of them
@@JayseanRobinsonthat's a Cross over story we don't take them seriously
Can Hulk reach escape velocity under his own power? Possibly. Generally both Hulk and Superman need to breathe at some point.
Hulk can't fly, Supes can. Supes is all but superluminal under his own power. Past it if he slingshot around a planet. Freeze breath and heat vision for distance attack or airborne assault.
Hulk Thunder clap is going to be painful for a guy with super hearing. Everyone talks about dragging hulk into space.
Good luck getting Hulk to go anywhere he does not wish to go. Throw, punch, kick, repeat.. Maybe.
Space doesn't pull heat out of a body. The body gets gives up its heat naturally.
From warm to cold
From warm to near absolute zero so much quicker. Can Supes get Hulk into orbit before Hulk clobbers Supes while twisting and turning and punching?
But Supes hits Mach 100 and blasts the heat vision full tilt
Hulk will be a green bubbling smear on the next continental mountain range.
Eventually reforms and is really mad.
Superman just solos😂
As a mere mortal man I could quite easily tear both Supes and Hulk to pieces.
Lol. I see what you did there 😂
Not gonna happen, but okay.
@@bobitzathegodofcomedy5979 I think he's saying because they're comics , chief. He can tear the comics to pieces.
and has LMAO.... you know what the best joke is in all of comics???? an unhinged Superman will take over the world but an insane Bruce Wayne can CONQUER the known Multiverse LMAO...... and this is Proven FACT
@@bobitzathegodofcomedy5979 it HAS happened dmmy...
I think a lot of Marvel fans overlook intent when comparing their respective feats. Superman tries to limit his collateral damage; Hulk doesn't. Superman's only limit is his conscience.
Stan Lee even said there is no hero or villain that can go toe to toe with Superman.
Stan Lee bless him is not an authority on DC characters though.
@@Amayi1he's worked for dc.. and Superman
The marvel fanboys can’t stand that Supes reigns supreme.
That's not true, he didn't say that
@@YonksCast I'm sure you complain just like anyone else when your comic book hero, Superman in this case, is not top dog in commentaries elsewhere.
Personally I think both DC and Marvel fiction is extremely flawed at times because both are inconsistent. Both have had multiple variations of their characters. BTW when Superman was first created his powers were pretty weak, couldn't fly and wasn't even close as strong as he is today.
DC and Marvel can change their characters and increase or decrease their abilities at any time.
“It isn’t even close” them two fighting could literally last forever 😂its so even
Hulk fights with slow pokes. A Superman that dosen’t hold back would decapitate him again and again till Hulk’s healing factor eventually starts slowing down. He’s literally too fast for Hulk to react. The speed at which he travels and lands punches is what gives him the edge not strength alone😊.
Yeah bruh. Center of the universe to earth in 60 days? Bruh it’s over for hulk. Decap after decap before hulk could even blink. If not that, hulk would get with hundreds of thousands of punches from a guy who is equal to himself in strength. He just does not stand a chance against that. Hulk would literally be fighting himself, but with mftl+ speeds
Regardless of how the fight starts, it would end shortly after Hulk gets his only really good hit on Clark. At that point Clark would blitz him, and Hulk would die. Yes, Hulk would walk through the green door and come back, but upon doing so he would be facing Clark, who recognizing Hulks power wouldn't allow him the chance to hit him or anything else again, so until Hulk revives calm enough to talk he'll just keep getting killed. Even Hulk will eventually realize he can't win, and that will be the end of it.
@@thinktok Kryptonite. Done. Hulk is smart. Much, much, much smarter than Superman. Banner is one of the smartest people on the planet. So yes, he would get some kryptonite and casually slap Clark's head off.
@@thinktokhe doesn't have to decapitate him over and over, hulk cant regenerate his head, he is not immortal. It's stupid to even think hulk can surpass Clark, a sun dipped superman is just enough to finish him off
There was one comic panel where one of the many superman-knockoff marvel characters (might have been Hyperion) killed hulk several dozen times in a single day. Hulk's regeneration was so strong he came back to life every few minutes, so he kept getting laser visioned to death.
There was a few comic panels where one of the hulk-knockoff DC characters (doomsday) regularly dicked down superman and even killed him. There was another hulk-knockoff (damage) who put a beating on all of the Justice League as well. And if you're questioning the doomsday thing thinking he's stronger (you'd be sorely wrong about that based on feats) there's even that instance in a DC comic where Supes recalled an encounter across the universe where he bumped into Thor and "a green behemoth who was even stronger than doomsday" so even he admits Hulk is stronger than the guy who was stronger than him.
@@colecampbell1906 Killed him? There was no time Doomsday killed Superman. That was a title to grab reader's attention. And Doomsday is not a hulk knockoff. There were many large strong muscle bulkedc haracters before the hulk, they just never got to pull through in popularity.
@@colecampbell1906OP comment really triggered you didn't it?😂
They made Superman wayyyy too powerful.
I'd like to see him as Sundipped. In every comic for a year.
See danco it’s kind of confusing when in one versus when you put Superman and silver surfer against each other you say surfer is faster then supes but when you put hulk vs Superman you’ll say Superman is faster then surfer you have to be consistent with your scaling and comparing, it seems a little bias in my opinion and even if Superman has that speed still didn’t put him over the edge against doomsday nor darksied, not comparing darksied to hulk but in terms of infinite strength and durability can you rreally say there that much different
That means Surfer > Superman > Hulk in speed. What’s inconsistent about that?
@@Wes_Bradley-Taubnersorry read it again
@@DIFFERENT.Eagree with the part that you edited into the comment. Hulk isn’t as fast, but he’s fought faster characters no problem so hulk’s combat speed is sufficient
@@Wes_Bradley-Taubner basically if you go to danco’s surfer vs Superman video in terms of speed he gave the edge to surfer due to surfer crossing the whole universe in seconds, but in a Superman vs hulk video he changes up and says Superman is faster just to put Superman over the edge which is bias.
Doomsday and darkseid are almost speedsters as well. Especially doomsday, he’s a freaking kryptonian so he has that speed…. Doomsday has literally tagged the flash, the fastest man ever, same with darkseid, so they are not comparable to hulk, hulk is no where that fast. Hulk has fought silver surfer, gladiator etc, but marvel hero’s barely really use their speed in a fight, lol they show it more when traveling that fighting, silver surfer is a pacifist so he wouldn’t even try to speed blitz you from the beginning, most times he doesn’t even want to fight, but DC heros abuse their speed a lot in their fights, they always speed blitz, it’s a regular thing for them.
Hulk also destroyed the dark dimension with a thunder clap
Bad writing 😅
So has superman
Yah...he could end up wiping a multiverse with his fart..if the writers decide 😊
Damn superman would destroy that shit in his sleep
@@rileywhalen6554but if Superman does it, it's good writing?🤔
If the Hulk gets his hands on Kryptonite. It is game over.
“If hulk has a complete unfair adavantage by me giving him something he has no knowledge about and doesn’t have at his disposal then it’s over for superman”
@@kawakiuzumaki5934 I think (or at least hope) that the original comment was a joke. But you still bring up a great point.
Yes, there's that.
@@kawakiuzumaki5934 After I read the above comment I said to my self that all the Superman fanboys will come up with a lame excuse. Glad to see you did not disappoint.
@@kawakiuzumaki5934 It's Bruce Banner. If it exists, he'll find it. This IS a crossover, after all and to say that he wouldn't know about it is stupid. If it exists in this multidimensional crossover, Hank Pym would discover it, and Reed Richards would find a way to implement it, and Hulk would then be able to utilize it. This is why Marvel is the better Comic Book Company. Superman IS kinda lame, IMO.
The thing is you have to start adding "World Breaker" or other versions of the Hulk to even begin to compare to base Superman. When these debates begin everyone automatically assumes I'm a huge DC fan but I've always been more of a Marvel fan. I'm 55yrs old and have been a comic fan most of my life. My favorite character is Wolverine and he's been that way long before his popularity exploded. The thing is it's fun to have these "fights " but Stan Lee created Marvel characters to be more identifiable and down to earth. Whole DC charscyer were always meant to be world beaters and "Gods among men" types. Hulk holds up mountains...Superman benchpresses planets.
"Isn't even close"? Its actually pretty close. The only thing separating these two is speed
Heat vision, durability, hearing, intelligence, breath, etc. Hulk isn't even in the same league.
@@HTHAMMACK1 hulks strength is infinite and has a little better durability. Yes superman has heat vision, ice breath and is more intelligent but with hulks durability those things wont do much. Hulk is in the same category as superman
@@HTHAMMACK1 Hulk has strength, durability, regen, energy absorption, intelligence, he can see and affect ghosts and even atomize things with his punches, as well as constant growth in power and wrath
And speed is a pretty big “only thing” to count as irrelevant. A being that hits with the force of Superman and a speed identical to the flash would be extremely difficult for the hulk to fight against.
Honestly even if speed is equal, Superman still wins
saying it isn't close is dumb
No it isnt
Not when it’s superman
This comment is dumb
True man
@@kasadam85 hulk has fought characters like superman before who can match superman or be just as strong as him
this isn't an easy fight and can go either way
I'd say it's even cause hulk is literally immortal and can just heal from whatever damage superman does to him.
Gets stronger too. Now imagine this fight lasts a long time. Eventually he gets to the level of Superman and might surpass him.
@@cjtomeh4874hulk is as strong as if not stronger than superman, so if the fight goes on for a long time that’s bad news for superman
@@yeetfeet2633 nah not at base level. It takes time to reach the level Superman is on.
Hulk is not immortal and he was defeated so many times
@@DragonBallzMoviesHD so has Superman. Your point?
Superman is hulk, flash, cyclops, wolverine with a sprinkle of storm all combined.
Not surprised of the end verdict coming from the guy who has said that Kratos beats Hulk by comparing them against the two vastly different variants of Zeus (who aren't on the same level).
Danco is Hulk hater
All his videos of the Hulk he talk a lot of shit
Facts
Superman beats him regardless easily lol
@@topgmedia4702 Yep, Superman would wash the floor with Kratos.
Superman beats the Hulk and has done it too 3 times in the comics already, of which one was an official crossover done in co-opeation by DC and Marvel, so stfu, Supes solos the bulk every single time
Hulk beats him to death. Doomsday is based on hulk
hn superman defeated doomsday more times than he beat him and also ripped doomsday in half
@@dreadheadjae06 He ripped a weakened doomsday in half
@@nelsonisc9670 hulk doesn’t beat superman at the end of the day i’m not arguing about it ✌🏾
@@dreadheadjae06 Judging by his performance against doomsday, konvikt, damage and other slow hulk-like characters from DC I think it's correct to say he can! Maybe the superman you created with your mind stomps the weak hulk you imagined considering in your fantasy world he's an untouchable streak of blur which never has really been the reason the real DC superman wins his fight and the real MARVEL hulk loses a fight in the pages of the comics
@@nelsonisc9670 lol dude i’m not a comic book nerd who sits and reads comics, i mean they make so many different forms and add more and more nonsense to the point where it’s pushing it 😂
I wouldn't underestimate Hulk's speed honestly. He is able to match Thor, who can throw Mjolnir to the end of the universe in a minute flat, and Hulk is able to dodge that hammer. And the Hulk has endured a radioactive aura that was described as having "the devastating heat of a miniature sun".
He cannot die at all. The hulk will never let him. In "Hulk the End" he is the last alive on earth over thousands of years, every day flesh eating bugs would devour all his flesh. Next few hours he wakes up new. Banner tried everything to end it, but hulk would not let him.
And hulk's punches can rip through time and space. And he is more durable than superman by magnitudes.
Fighting Sk'aar and the Sentry and Gladiator while not being destroyed is on a whole nother level.
Mjolnir teleports. It's not speed. Just putting that out there
Mjolnir teleports. It's not speed. Just putting that out there
I’m pretty sure that hulk’s gamma radiation emission would greatly affect superman. Tho not a kryptonite, superman is very much susceptible to a lot of radiation.
@@amziumoren4023 No it's speed.
Hands down, Superman wins. I'd like to see Doomsday vs Hulk.
Agreed! 👍
Agree percent. I like hulk. But I think dooms day wins
How would hulk beat doomsday if Superman gets bullied by doomsday nearly every fight they have would be an even worse match up for hulk imo
@@thesaltyone4400 DC said Hulk is stronger than Doomsday. And Hulk beats Superman for sure
Doomsday killed Superman once, and it took a team of scientists to revive him.
Hulk regenerated himself from death by his own accord.
You should look up more info on hulk then re do the vid
It’s a waste of time
Danco it’s a Hulk hater
He sees only what he wants
@@Leandro-xx3ok yeah it makes no sense yeah superman wins but it's so close bro like hulk can win if doomsday can hulk can too
@@masonjohnson2768superman is the God of all superheros do research.. he can't be erased from the timeline
@@abedisanchez6764 Hulk can't be erased either, it is explained in his current run that even Hulk's Soul is Indestructible and his flesh is the God Flesh that can end even beings as powerful as TOAA(The One Above All) so unless Superman in his base scales to the Presence Hulk's got the advantage
@@DFGHulkOfficial go do research on who is the god of all superheros
The DC ppl already said hulk was stronger than doomsday. C'mon, bruh.
Lmao when
Supes has recently ripped Doomsday in Half in comics. He has killed and defeated Doomsday more times than loosing so it doesn't change Supes still wins.
Don't mean he won't get beat
He’s right tho, Dr Manhattan said so in the last issue of doomsday clock. Also tho in that story manhattan says hulk dies saving Superman from some invading force lol strange cus he is immortal. I have split feelings on this tho cus Immortal hulk is a crazy change to his character especially when considering that at the end of that run in his possessed form he’s scary op. If its both their runs rn I think Sups takes it, but at the end of all things idk, all star superman was an else world story. And even if thats the case then theres the story where the unkindness beats superman prime 1mill, so idk at the end of all time Hulk might take it but in the modern day I think Superman finds a way to win. But say Hulk dies then comes back again and again, if there isn’t a story that states main continuity Superman becomes something more than Superman prime 1 mill then Idk, that is a possibly tho you never know. In terms of all Supermen theres the strange visitor superman whos probably the strongest mabie but its hard to tell. Superman beat doomsday after that first fight and yes including the time he ripped him in half but then again doomsdays whole game is returning back to life impervious to what he died from. Its an endless loop really.
@@bernardkizito5762 So will Hulk
Let me summarize with 11 words, Superman flies the Hulk to the sun, Superman's source of strength, game over.
Dr. Manhattan vs Superman wouldn't be close either.
My two favorite characters.
Mines as well.
Speed blitzing, and heat vision will only make Hulk madder and stronger. He won't lose because he won't ever stop coming for Supes. I think this fight is a stalemate.
That really doesn't matter Superman even has hax to that might be a problem for Hulk stop over hyping Hulk up he's the strongest hero Superman is he has way better feats than Hulk
What hulk doing if supes fries his souls with his heat vision
@@kawakiuzumaki5934 didnt u hear he's immortal lmao supe gets no diffed
@@axstinn1013 how is hulk going to use the green door if is SOUL is destroyed? lmfao. There’s different levels to immortality my guy.
Superman did die from a Brute before right? Nuff said
The only way I can see it is that the fight would end in a draw. Hulk is the same really as doomsday and no matter superman's power he still can't completely destroy doomsday. Hulk and superman would fight each other until they can't do it anymore like Hulk and Sentry.
Close, but DD is inferior to hulk in basically every way if we looked at what was quantifiable.
Hulk has better strength feats, better reaction feats, better durability feats, and even better intelligence feats.
And honestly, it couldn't be a draw. Eventually, if not right away, Hulk will end up destroying the sun just from the shockwaves of his punches. So it's just a matter of time until Supes eventually loses power and dies, but Hulk simply can't and therefore won't.
@@colecampbell1906You're forgetting the fact that Superman can actually FLY. Meanwhile all Hulk can do is just jump around which makes him limited. If he gets him up in the air it's a wrap. Not to mention he's way faster
@@actually_hamilton I'm not forgetting anything. It's you who doesn't seem to be aware of a few facts.
1. Hulk has been dealing with flyers his entire life. This isn't some new twist he can't deal with lmao.
2. Hulk can redirect himself in the air with claps. So while he can't *technically* "fly" he pretty much can.
So even in the air, that's not a W.
3. Supes is faster, sure. He still isn't fast enough to avoid getting caught since hulk can and has caught quantifiably faster characters.
Now, put your bias aside and you explain to me how tf superman deals with a character punching him so fking hard that it destroys the entire galaxy, possibly the universe along with every yellow sun in it. I'll give you a hint, he simply wouldn't.
It is just silly when the writers can move the goalposts at will.
I’ve always wanted to know who has the best healing factor. Deadpool, hulk, wolverine, or Superman. I’ve never seen Superman lose a limb and grow it back
Hulk does no doubt, and supermans thing is hes so dense that its borderline impossible to rip or cut off a limb only someone like doomsday gave him a compound fracture.
superman doesn’t lose limbs 😂
Nice so true
1st- Sentry
2nd- Lobo
3rd- Hulk
4th- Deadpool/Wolverine
5th - Martian Manhunter.
HMs - Sabertooth, Juggernaut, X-23.
Superman has lost his arm before when he had a disease from brainiac and regrew it back. Happened somewhere in the new 52
Hulk throws Superman into Outerspace, Superman flys back to Earth. Superman throws Hulk into Outerspace, end of story
Correct answer. This has always been my thought. Superman is extremely fast, strong and can fly. This is the obviously what he would do once he figures out how tough hulk is. He could even just fly him somewhere into space away and away from earth and be done with him.
@@Dengland83hulk can use his thunderclap to send himself back to earth
@@arcellgreen4754there's no atmosphere in space how the fk would he clap himself back lmao? Space is a vacuum
@@Boltdriver70 how do rockets move in out of space it’s PHYSICS!
Read more hulk comics and you will see@Boltdriver70
Hulk and Superman are incredibly resilient and nearly impossible to defeat.
Superman just needs to punch or fly Hulk into space. Seeing how fast superman is it would be a short fight.
@@DovahVokunaall hulk fans are blind to comments like these especially since they know it’s an move superman will use against opponents in character.
@@kawakiuzumaki5934 i agree
@@kawakiuzumaki5934 Hulk makes Superman into meatball
Superman power comes from sun
Hulk will literally destroy sun, he only cares about winning and killing.
Hulk is not a warrior, he's a psycho beast who never back up until he finishes his opponent, no matter how long it takes
Also hulk regenerates into seconds.
Superman can't fight like beast Hulk.
@@dragoman3952he can throw him into a black hole and that’s over since he can’t fly :)
The Hulk is amazing, like Black Rob level like whoa, AMAZING. With that being said, Superman is a tale of a person without limits. Superman wins hands down.
A huge factor of Hulk is also Banner, who is perhaps his world's preeminent radiological scientist, they can communicate between each other and Banner would most likely very quickly figure out the workings of Superman's powers and even his weaknesses to both kryptonite or magic (and Hulk/Banner do have their good Defenders buddy Dr. Strange on astral speed dial after all).
Really?
What, Banner's just going to LOOK at Superman and suddenly deduce how his powers work, AND that he's vulnerable to some element that Banner's never even heard of?
Come on, man. SMH
And Superman ISN'T vulnerable to magic. He's got the same kind of relationship to magic that Thor has. He's just not INvulnerable to magic.
Even lex Luthor who is levels above Bruce in intelligence took very long to deduce his weakness and that was only through Kryptonute being present.
Bruce has no chance of using his intelligence to defeat Superman.
Superman is stronger, faster, smarter and will win everytime they fight.
Really... they'd call for help? Why stop there? Have superman have Shazam or Dr Fate help out.
There's no way they'd figure out how his powers work. That's not something you can just DO, especially just by looking at him or scanning him. And there is ABSOLUTELY NO way they'd know that Superman has ANY issues with magic (he's NOT vulnerable to it, he's just not INvulnerable to it. Same as Thor). And even if they somehow MIRACULOUSLY figured out that Superman was vulnerable to a substance NO ONE in their ENTIRE universe has ever heard of or seen, and they have NO way to get, it STILL wouldn't help them, precisely BECAUSE they have no way to get any. Plus, this is a simple fight. If Hulk gets to phone a friend, so does Superman. Superman uses his microscopic and multi-spectrum vision powers, figures or Hulk is powered by gamma, and either goes to his Fortress of Solitude at hyper-light speed or calls Batman on speed dial, and gets a machine to siphon off Hulk's gamma and cure him permanently. Then, once he turns back into Banner, he throws Banner in jail.
Or, even better, Superman just grabs the phantom zone projector and pops Hulk into the zone. Forever. End of story.
Superman was invulnerable to magic (at least mostly) in the 1940's, got vulnerable to it during the fifties, was even more vulnerable to it than Aquaman in a JLA story that came out in the late 60's/early seventies but by the 1980's (before Byrne) was only inconvienced by it. Byrne made him overly vulnerable to Mixie (not going to spell that name!) but Superman is much more powerful now than during the John Byrne years so he really shouldn't be such a wuss dealing with it. And Mixie and Dr. Strange have never been invulnerable themselves!@@stormhawk31
Depends on which versions and depends on who got prep against the other. But assuming both at maxed with or without prep time, Superman has huge advantage because of speed and other enhanced senses like perception and vision. He also has other tools other than punching.
Agree with you 💯 👍!!! Combine Supermans strength and speed, Hulk has no chance.
Awesome video 🎉
KingdomCome Superman vs Rune King Thor
Thor slams
Superboy prime vs Rk thor better match
@@abedisanchez6764superboy primes retcons punch rkt to non existence
@@CloroxBleach-qy7vy yeah i know. But it wont be a easy fight though
if they tell it fairly Superman's greatest weakness other than the green stuff is magic and Thors is pure GOD tire magic. So this is not content Rune King Thor is like 10 Shamazam and Superman struggles with a 15-year shazam due to MAGIC.
Hulk is my favorite MCU. Character. That being said, yeah...I have to agree. Superman would simply fly hulk into a black hole and dump him there. Game. Set. Match. (..at least for a while)
What happens if they fight in a place without a star around at all? Like in a dimension without stars. Hulk's powers do no require particles or waves of the electromagnetic spectrum emitted by a star to charge them.
I hope you're not saying Superman is faster than the Silver Surfer.
He is.
He said it didnt matter compared to superman
Yes
Superman is beyond the concept of speed to he js
Surfer is only fast when traveling. He's a bad fighter.
Everyone will have their opinion, but the context to which you used was very Superman bias. Yes Superman has plenty of strength feats that involves his flight that would make him appear stronger, but not one thing you said about Superman strength was greater than a thunderclap that destroyed an infinite universe larger than the Marvel multiverse, a punch to a rock that illuminated that same universe, a thunderclap that temporarily put down the rage and wrath of Marvel’s omnipotent god. It was most obvious in your downplay of Hulk’s battle against King Thor. This was All Father Thor with added power from the Phoenix force and the Titan Gaea and was in world breaker mode and had the power to rip the world tree from its roots and overcome the power and will of all eternity and Hulk in base form was holding his own. Even your information on Superman doesn’t carry weight. Superman was amped by suns that were specifically placed by Batman in a specific order to amp Superman more than he has ever been amped before, he was moving faster than he had ever moved before, and hit the world forger with the strongest punch Superman has ever thrown and none of that is greater than the feats I described for Hulk. Even a weakened Hulk facing the amped Thor I described above destroyed the planet they were on and would have killed anyone who couldn’t survive planetary destruction, but when Superman delivered the most powerful punch he ever has ever thrown Batman was standing right in front of him and wasn’t in any danger. Just saying
Nailed it.
60 days sups with almost hulks strength still claps
How is defeating a multiversal being with one punch not enough to defeat the Hulk who has been defeated by the Sentry(100 million exploding suns power) but was poor mentally going to defeat Superman who’s cosmology is way bigger than Marvel’s universal cosmology.
@@bigbonedones7162 Sentry has never beaten Hulk in a fight. Sentry has a calming aura that normally calms Hulk and they don’t fight. World War Hulk is the only time Hulk and Sentry have ever fought and Hulk won that fight. So what are you talking about? The reason Superman knocking out World Forger is cap is because he had to first be saved from dying by Batman. Then Batman had to line up suns in a specific sequence to power him up further than he has ever been powered up just to knock out a dude who uses machines to forge worlds whereas Hulk has defeated a three times powerful reality warper who can manipulate the multiverse with his thoughts with a single punch while being held down on the ground. No flying, no speed boost, no power amps just Hulk
Superman lifted half of The Book of Infinite Pages, do you know what half of infinity is? Still infinity...Spectre weighs an infinite amount, Superman lifted him...multiple occasions Superman has shattered reality with his punches, even rewrote DC Continuity with his punches. Superman and Hecate Wonder Woman fought demons for over 10k years, nonstop! And all of these feats were done by versions weaker than the current iteration of Superman, determined to be capable of every feat Superman has ever accomplished in any iteration of him. So no, Hulk does not even come close to Infinite Frontier Superman or his feats, and that includes Fractured Son Hulk.
They have fought twice and superman won both. One of the fights he hit hulk so hard he reverted back to Bruce
Everyone always forgets about Superman's psychic powers. Dude can literally see your soul. Superman will hold back until Hulk poses too great a danger to… well… everything… When Hulk becomes too great a threat, Superman will reach into Hulk's mind, and contact Banner.
Also, I can't help but notice the people saying that this fight is somehow close. Hulk has been subdued by mere humans with good tech. Unless he's secretly a wizard, or gamma radiation is the real reason kryptonite harms Superman, it really is not even close. If Marvel wants to give Superman a challenge, it will have to be someone like Blue Marvel, Gladiator, or Sentry.
Gladiator I know and Sentry I know but who is Blue Marvel? Any relation to SHAZAM/Captain Marvel?
@@robertmallory1877 Blue Marvel is basically Marvel's version of black Superman.
To be fair Sentury and Hyperion Do have the same feats as Superman
I think Superman still tops them all. He has been around too long and consistently has feats that go above and beyond what Sentur and Hyperion have done. IT would go the same way with The Hulk.
Not even close and please don't compare a copy cat to the original
@@Silent_ninja72He just did
Not even close
Not even close bro
I stopped listening at 4min. Feats like, “Lifting a book with infinite pages” and “the Specter who weighed as much as eternity” are the reasons I dislike comics sometimes 😵💫
I know what you mean.
Moving planets also take me out of the stories.
Too unrealistic imo
@@The.eye.amtubelmao cartoon hulk once held up the island of manhattan from sinking 😂
Superman was the 1st comic superhero, almost as fast as the flash, his feats since 1939, have been in comics , TV, movies, net. His character has no bounds, with super speed, strength, invulability, a seasoned smart Superman can beat anyone even with certain weaknesses like krptonite, magic etc.People do not take the entirety of this into account.
Dr.Manhattan:
“I could unmake both of your existences in every conceivable universe with a thought. I already have twice and restored you while we were talking”
This Video is One Sided tbh.
Even the feats shown, Hulk's are more impressive generally.. hulk as a being is more formidable.. Superman is not impossible to injure as we've seen him get injured countless times in comics from sheer force alone.. so that's outright wrong..
The only advantage really Is speed.. and it's nothing the hulk cannot toggle with as well.
Superman and hulk are extremely close and the winner could as well be who's story we're reading at the moment.
I was gonna write down every problem I had with this video in a list. But when DanCo scaled Hulk to High Outerversal but Superman to Multiversal, just to give say they are *SOMEHOW EQUAL.....* I don't see any point in spending an hour to list the problems. That speaks for itself.
He said Hulk is high outer and said feats for superman that technically get him to high outer without actually saying it. But superman with just affecting beings beyond the SoG or the 5th dimension is high outer… layers into it in fact. Simple as that.
@@narrowmax7382 By any chance you can tell me how the Sphere of Gods gets to a High Outer cosmology. I have been researching that for a long time but I just cannot figure out where it comes from.
This pretty much sums up my thoughts on a supes, hulk fight the one big thing I have thought about is that this fight could literally last for years devastating wherever the battle is taking place.
I think It has become ridiculous how far their powers have been ramped up. Comics have basically disregarded physics and reality.
I'm actually tickled by this comment. In summary:
Fiction ignores reality.
Yep, you nailed it! 🤣🤣🤣
Ok but neither of them have the power to get you a date!
If you have equal strength to someone, yet can move a thousand times faster, there is no fight.
most people don't understand that superman doesn't even have to physically be there to win.
he could just fly up to space, and then destroy the planet that Hulk is standing on, then fly away, even if Hulk regenerate, he will be in the vacuum of space, nothing to stand on, nothing to exert his strength, nothing to grab, nothing to breath.
Hulk will literally just be flowing in the middle of space until the end of time, he will be the prisoner in a vacuum space while Superman can fly to somewhere else to inhabit.
In my opinion, this would be a close match between Superman and the Incredible Hulk, because one thrives off the power of the sun, while the other one thrives off of rage. The only thing that separates Superman from the Hulk is an arsenal.
Superman: Many different ways of using his heat vision, super breath, freeze breath, and he has his x-ray vision.
Hulk: Healing factor, and thunder clap 👏🏾
A lot of the stuff here isn’t even base level Hulk or base level Superman. If you actually look at their base levels respectively. Now if you want to see and look at base level feats of Superman I can name 30+ of them that put Superman at a multiversal+ level off the top of my head that significantly dwarfs Hulk in every way possible.
@@EagleCrocthats not base level superman that superman powered up by like 10 suns or whatever it was
@@EagleCroc stories like that are why i don't love superman but also think about how good it would've been if the writer pulled the rug right from under the reader by making it seem like superman was gonna make it only for him to just barely not make it forcing the other heroes to beat the world forger
Nah - Once you get into the realm of WB Hulk, Superman is outclassed. Not just in strength, but the durability isn't even close at that point. WB Hulk is simply beyond SM. But most other iterations of Hulk, Superman has a comfortable enough lead in strength and of course, the speed aspect. That's why it's important to indicate which version of Hulk it is Supes is facing.
@@EagleCroc i never said i found him uninteresting in fact i like his clark kent/ human side what i don't love about him is that hes often written in one off over powered ways or randomly has a power he never did and never will afterward, if writers stop giving him one off powers and feats and kept him in line with how he usually is then he'd be great.
i don't know where you got me thinking superman was uninteresting from but thats just not the case. i actually like superman a lot when he's written well and not being super over powered or using one off powers.
Hulk nearly destroying the Crossroads >>>>> that
Hoolee crap. I can't help but agree. You had me at "speed".
Now, I'm not a fan of "freeze breath". I think heat vision is possible, and awesome! So I'll go there.
For me, with Kal, it's always been his speed!:)
The idea for freezing breath is based on the same principles as the wind around buildings getting colder the faster it blows in tight areas (no doubt how DC came up with the idea). Now if Superman is blowing out with his lips nearly closed (no jokes here please!) and speeds said air up it is freezing! If he is blowing the air out with his mouth open as forcibly as he can it is like a concentrated wind tunnel more like a hurricane than a freeze breath. Okay?
It’s all in the hand of the writers who decide the win. Hulk can defeat Superman and Superman can defeat hulk.
Hulks 'weakness' is his power is more or less tied to his rage. He gets stronger and tougher the angrier he gets. If you take Hulk out faster than he can get angry...like Thanos did, and Superman could, moving faster than Hulk can think, Hulk is easily beatable.
Hulk is a better character just more relatable. Superman is not relatable and thats what makes him boring. The whole joke of One Punch Man is characters like Superman. Absurd stupid characters that are OP and have no limits.
If you can't relate to Superman you're not a good guy.
@@svensvensson2724 please tell me how you relate to Superman. I’ll wait. You must have a very high opinion of yourself. If you relate to Superman or like him that’s fine I just personally find characters that have little to no flaws whose main premise is that they are unbeatable to be boring and lazy. We are all human so the most relatable characters are ones that have some deep or troubling humanistic quality. Some sort of moral or ethical battle.
Honestly I’m not big fan of all the new characters that can warp or change reality. So basically they have not limitations and can do anything. Boring.
@@jaymanjay3.0Normal people relate to Superman as a good person that does not abuse his power.
Abnormal people can not relate to Superman because he does not just take whatever he wants like they would.
Which one are you?
@@svensvensson2724 first all there are sagas where Superman isn’t a good person at all and becomes a dictator. Second, you can be a good person and still have flaws. It’s not a question of you’re either evil or good. There is nuance in between and that’s what makes it interesting. Superman does not struggle to do good nor is he even human he is from another planet. You know who is relatable but still absurdly powerful? Blue Marvel!!! Because he has every right and reason to hate growing up in world or racism where the people he saves hate. Yet. He continues to do the right thing. It is easier to do the right thing when you beloved it is much harder to do the right thing even when hated. That is an interesting dynamic and better written story than Superman.
@@jaymanjay3.0There's a lot of bad stories about anything.
I told you what Superman is about.
It's got nothing to do with crap writers.
I wish he would read more of the current comics. The hulk and current comics has been going up against the door that has the door force which makes them stronger than Odin was and he's been going up against that kind of level of power and has been winning against that level of power
You wasting your time because these guys are superstans. Knocking out a guy with your most powerful punch because he is powerful does mean that you are powerful, but doesn’t Batman being in whispering distance of him when he is struck says that it is less powerful than a punch that destroyed the planet the fighters were standing on. If Batman was present when Hulk and Thor’s punches collided he would have died with the planet, but when Superman knocked World Forger out Batman was there to welcome him back.
And you clearly haven't been keeping up superman comics. This guy literally destroyed true form darkseid. Odin force is a bitch slap compared to that.
@@banglamama1027 yes, but TF Darkseid pales in comparison to all reality
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@@jonathanthompson7222 do you have any idea how the DC cosmology works? TF darkseid literally lives outside of reality. The DC and marvel cosmology Don't work the same way. There's a reason why even street level DC characters beat top tier characters from other verses in death battle.
Problem is, Superman will always hold back. Hulk has one ability that Superman lacks, and it's a big one. The longer he fights, the more he gets hit, the angrier he becomes.... which causes him to literally get stronger the more rage he feels. Which then increases his stamina, his strength, and how much more harder he hits as a fight progresses. This is why literally beings that start out just as strong as the Hulk, can never win if a fight goes longer than a literal minute. Ben Grimm (The Thing), Red Hulk, literally anyone who is as strong as the Hulk at the very start of a fight, while get weaker the longer a fight lasts. Meanwhile, the Hulk will just get angrier and stronger the longer it continues. Superman, no different. Plus, we all know he's going to hold back.
A fight comic book readers have debated for decades. For myself, it's been since the DC vs. Marvel series in the 90s where readers were able to vote, and now-defunct comic book message boards on the internet like WizardWorld and SuperheroChat. Agree with your general assessments. Look at the metaphysical histories of the characters and you see that Superman is DC's flagship character and has been written to be a nexus being in-universe, while Hulk is the strongest at Marvel but doesn't have a similar flagship role. That's Spider-man. Even then, Superman has more decades of history than both Hulk and Spider-man and is written to be just the best at everything, while most of Marvel's most popular superheroes arrived at a time when Lee and Kirby purposely created a bunch of characters with flaws to set them apart from DC's flawless heroes.
DC already said that Hulk is stronger than the Superman. Enough said.
When?
Yup this is true. I read the comic. It was back in 2019.
I remember when they said that too!!
Yep they said it but also superman powers had to reduced so many times because it became to boring write but the inportant thing is that even though hulk is now stronger than superman...he will still always win...he is Hope...
@@fernandoalfonica7476 Hulk's powers got nerfed a lot of times as well. It was all these weird transformations with different "colors". They made him gray which was smarter but weaker and then they merged Bruce Banner with the Hulk (like in the Avengers) but he lost his ability to rage etc etc. Same as Superman, in order not to make him boring, they kept changing him...
Slim vs shady
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The only reason People who thinks Hulk and Superman are a match is because their Strenght (both unlimited).
But when we consider all others parameters, Superman has a huge edge, except for healing factor.
But that doesn't mean Hulk can't beat him in a fight, because weakest characters did it before.
But I agree that objectively, this shouldn't be too close.
Superman would win in many various ways, intellectually hulk wouldn't be able to keep up with Superman's tactics alone.
I have to disagree. Hulk has never died. But Superman has on many occasions. If Superman had no yellow sun, Hulk would demolish him. You said Superman has to sun-dip to become that powerful. Hulk doesn't need to Sun-dip. He's already powerful.
Facts💯 He’s Just a Hulk Hater Like Every DC Fanboy’s🤦🏽♂️😂😂
Hulk has died… he can just get revived same with supes. Infact the very concept of superman death tried to get rid of him and he just transcended it lmfao
Hulk has died in what if season 1
@terique69 you just told on yourself. "What If?'
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Hulk already destroyed Superman and Saitama..
Superman's speed, strength, laser vision, and frost breath are too much for Hulk. People are going to yell raw power goes to Hulk, but Supe's speed along with his power make his hits that much harder
Those speedy punches are great until he pisses the Hulk off
Hulk is just gonna stay mad and superman is still going to be speedblitzing the shit out of him.
Hulk has unlimited strength, and Superman has limited strength= Enough said, and RIP Supes!
The only limit to Superman's strength is "as much as is ever needed."
Superman needs the sun to help regenerate, hulk doesn't. Plus if superman can be killed by Doomsday from just fighting he stands no chance against hulk. This facts😊
@@jermainewatson6953You made no valid points here.
They had to use world breaker hulk vs base superman
@@jermainewatson6953 Doomsday was described in his origin issue as “incredibly fast” he is Kryptonian and was able to knockout Flash. If Hulk can beat light speed Surfer, then that is bad writing.
Superman just needs 1 good punch to get Hulk into deep space. If he manages that, there is little Hulk can do against a being with near equal strength and flight and light speed reflexes.
If the fight is on Earth, yes Hulk may eventually become more powerful if Supes doesn’t realise Hulk’s ability to get stronger and hence try for a quick knockout.
you mentioned many of the different incarnations of hulk and how their power(s) varied,but the same can be said for supes and by proxy his power vastly deviates from superman to superman.
You can find ways and stories to put either winning..one thing about comics, always a second story to cover what someone wanted to add or change
Even though I do agree with the outcome of Superman winning most of the time, I think it’s closer than you may think. But what I really would love to know DanCo, what’s the name of that beat that plays in the background of this video?
Please do Why Green Lantern vs Iron Man isn't even close 🤞🏿😎💯
Lobo took out Superman.. So what does that say about him? Could Lobo beat the Hulk? You should do a video on that as well and give us all some insight as to how each one would fare against the Intergalactic Bounty Hunter..
Why is agility never a factor. It's a very important aspect of speed
Yeah, this isn't close at all if any IQ is used. Just use the insane speed differences to evade or even leave hulks presence all together, his rage inevitably eventually subsides whether he wants it to or not, then insta ko. I'd disagree, I'd think he'd equate Hulk to Doomsday and go scorched earth from the get go to minimize damage. There's also an encounter of the two in comics where Hulk hits him once and he goes flying, but then when he plants himself he allows Hulk to literally tire himself out swinging stating something like "when I'm braced and ready, nothing on this planet can move me".
As an old-timer who started buying comics in the 70's and 80's, this was why I was not alone in buying Marvel over DC. The characters have limits. Meanwhile, DC is full of Superman clones and almost every character who wasn't, they've bumped up in power to Superman levels. The power level increases for the Hulk in recent years is probably part of the reason why the Spiderman movies are doing so well. The character has been popular for decades, but I think people are tired of seeing overpowered heroes. Time to scale things back.
Agreed! Things are getting out of hand and every time you turn around the Power Pecking order changes. At this rate Daredevil will punch out Galactus!
Could you do a vid with Bayverse Prime? 🗡️
When comes to strength alone, Hulk is limitless and Superman is unlimited.
By that logic, Clark has the edge.
Hulk has to work up his strength, Superman can instantly access any amount of strength.
A great point. I overpowered someone stronger than me once because I utilized my full strength before he could use his (I was much faster than him). My full strength exceeded even his not yet full strength!
Which powerset would u prefer, Supes or Hulk?
Speed! No difference. Do the reading. Both are great hero's. Movies will never turn them loose and let them shine as they should. Put them in a movie together fighting on the same side and set them free!!!! We all win big.
Comic characters are so broken sometimes, depending on the story being told/ writers writing. I wish there was a bit more consistency.
....but your argument is compelling.
Anyone that reads both comics and isn't highly biased toward supes or DC knows supes would not beat hulk if hulk legitimately was determined to win and there isn't any plot armor dictating outcomes.
He's fast, but quantifiably not as fast as silver surfer, whom easily gets caught by hulk every time they fight. (This is because reaction time is completely different than actual travel speed)
He's strong, but feat for feat he's quantifiably not as strong as hulk.
He's durable, but can and does get overwhelmed eventually if he gets hit hard enough, whereas hulk would just continue healing whatever damage he takes and doesn't need a sun around to heal him.
One full force clash from hulk and you can say goodbye to the sun and goodbye to Supes source of power. Can't say the same for hulk though, his power comes from within so there's no stopping that.
And I almost forgot, Hulk can even fking absorb radiation now! So he could likely even absorb radiation out of supes to weaken him as they fight. Dudes OP af now, supes honestly couldn't fk with him anymore. In their original runs maybe, but not now.
So in reality it depends on if this is a realistic fight based on powers and abilities or if it's a fight in a story. If it's in a story supes might win simply because he's superman and they always want him to win. In a real fight however, he'd stand virtually 0 chance of ever winning it. He doesn't have any way of putting hulk down, nor does he have any answer for what happens after hulk hits him as hard as he can once and wipes everything out. Sure he might not lose all energy instantly, but he doesn't need to. Hulk has all the time in the universe to wait for him to drain empty and die, but hulk isn't going anywhere.
LMAO Superman was almost killed by Godzilla, Hulk fights monsters like Godzilla on regular basis especially Fractured Son Hulk, his strongest canon iteration yet. The only thing that Superman has going for him against the Hulk is BS "power of hope"
Not to mention that Hulk's brain can be overloaded (in that it can only handle so much rage, before reverting back to Banner).
Another excellent point. Hulk especially had trouble going all out for a prolonged fight back in his Tales To Astonish run but the first time it happened was in Avengers #3. Thor was holding off Submariner with one hand and holding his hammer with the other while Hulk used both hands trying to pull it away. Hulk was straining like crazy (frankly he looked like he was getting a hernia!) and suddenly felt his change back to Banner coming on and fled! Back then he wasn't even as strong as Thor much less Superman!
Superman has always been the strongest. If a new hulk is created who can lift a galaxy. Then superman can move the universe. If hulk can move the universe, then superman can sneeze and juggle the universe. If hulk can sneeze and jughle the universe, the superman can sigh and destroy every piece of matter in existence. This is how stupid its gotten
Even if you ignore the extremes of Superman's speed - he's still often moved fast enough to break time barriers. So in less than a second, he'd be able to land tens of thousands of blows. And the Hulk would literally seem to be frozen in time so could not hit Superman. Also Superman has super breath and could suck the air out of the space around the Hulk although I don't know how long the Hulk can go without breathing. Lastly Superman could fly so fast that he could pick the Hulk up and have in in space before the Hulk could do anything. Even if the Hulk could survive in the vacuum of space; Superman could get him headed towards the sun and that's where the Hulk would end up.
This video really just highlights the massive inconsistencies characters like these have in terms of their power levels. You show all the crazy things that Superman is capable off, yet they'll be a time where he'll struggle to take on a mere human like Batman or Lex. At the end day it just comes down to who the writters want to win.
You should learn what an inconsistency is because you cleary don’t know what it is.
But superman power isn't infinite. Hulk power is.
For all of Hulk's supposed invulnerability the Ancient One still literally punched him out of Banner in Infinity War fairly easily. Thor has been seen fighting him to a standstill since Thor comics back in the 80's. It would be a good fight, but I would agree with you. There are not too many scenarios where, without Hulk employing Kryptonite, I can see him beating Superman. Not straight up. For all the talk of Wonder Woman equaling Superman in strength in the original comics, I think that would be a fight Hulk would win, because I don't think she can hang with Superman either if he's serious about taking her out.
It's only in recent years Wonder Woman has been anywhere near Superman's strength. An old JLA tale has Martian Manhunter overpowering her without even using all those multiple powers of his!
Wich versions of the characters?
The main issue is when writers create their heroes too powerful. I prefer vulnerable superheroes like Spiderman, Batman, etc. I never was a fan of Superman. It's some kind of Mr. Perfect that makes him pretty boring. I loved the stories of the Fantastic Four when Galactus appeared and watched them like insects. How will you beat a cosmic entity ?
Where did this "Not even close" stuff come from?
It just depends on how dumb the writers are, sometimes they purposefully make superman so rediculous that its not even fun to watch anymore how a being can be that strong
And its not because he went on a quest to hell and back to become that strong, he just is born strong for a very dumb reason
I dont know the fact that these writers try so hard to make him stronger makes me not like him even more.
Batman needed years of training both mentally and physically, Doomsday is an experiment and needed to die a thousand times, Ironman keeps upgrading his armor becoming better and better, Goku , Naruto and Ichigo all went through hell and tons of time skips to become as powerful as they are but Superman?
Nah superman is just born better than everyone else who is some human looking alien dude who got strong because he likes the sun, disgusting and does not motivate anybody to get better
Hulk wins, because that is how I would write it.
How about Superman vs Silver Surfer.
Do a video on why it’s not even close between Sentry and Superman.