There are certain fights in the world of comics that I consider absolutely legendary: Thor vs. Hulk, Colossus vs. Juggernaut, and Hulk vs. Thing. We've gotten two of these fights already...I'd love to see the Hulk fight the Thing!!
"Oh, the Hulk would win ..... The Thing is faster and smarter, so he would probably find a way to turn it into a draw or save himself. He’d trap or trick the Hulk. But, in a fair fight, there’s no way the Hulk [would lose]." --Stan Lee
I have the ultimate respect for Stan Lee, but it seems you have quoted excerpts and added your own words. I would like to see the whole quote without the editing. Stan initially said the Thing and the Hulk were equally strong, but the Hulk was bigger and had an advantage. Regardless, a lot has happened since Stan stopped writing the characters.
Don't forget Hulk/Thing: Hard Knocks. Where the two of them argue over who would win in a fair fight while they sit in a bar, knocking back beers, as a ton of soldiers point guns at them. It turns into them deciding to fight for real so they can finally settle things.
@Craig Vann great line. It isn't true. I mean, dumb Hulk wasn't holding back and Grey Hulk certainly wasn't, he got whipped the first time. But it is totally a Hulk thing to say.
I love how in the worlds greatest heroes show, grimm constantly asserts he can take the hulk down, in emh, hulk is extremely vitriolic towards the thing because he thinks he’s stronger than him, bonus points for Yost working on both of them
The Thing is always my guy because he has more heart than anyone! Always willing to slug it out with people far stronger than him and because he’s a good fighter he’s able to hold his own against more powerful but less skilled beings.
I personally prefer the Thing but Hulk is more famous therefore he will always win. Thing only defeats him in comics because the Hulk is brainwashed. Also Hulk's power is limitless since he will get stronger the angrier he becomes. The Thing doesn't have this power.
FF #25-- Hulk beat Thing. It was Rick Jones who stopped Hulk in the next issue when Hulk was fighting both the FF and Avengers. FF #112 -- Thing never seemed about to win. FF #534-535 -- Reed wasn't involved at all. There are several fights missing from this list, as well.
Fantastic Four 112 is one of the greatest comics ever published, and deserves so much more attention & praise than it receives. Still a high water mark in super-beings going toe to toe with one another.
@WhatCulture Comics, In Hulk 350, you didn't explain that Hulk gave Thing the heimlich maneuver and shoved him into Central Park lake. Thing almost drowed and as he crawled out of the lake he just took his breath of air and Hulk KO'd him on the spot and said, "99.9% of the time brute force will get you through anything but there's always a 01% chance of getting your butt kicked!" Which is what made that an epic comic!
That wasn't World breaker Hulk, that was World War Hulk, World Breaker is what Hulk changed into at the end of WWH. World Breaker would have killed the Thing
This certainly isn’t every time they’ve fought. I remember one where Hulk was winning and Dr. Strange intervened, one where they were just beating each other up and stopped when they needed to combine forces and at least two others where Hulk simply beat the hell out of Grimm. As a fan of both characters, I like seeing them go at it because regardless of the result, it’s always a good fight.
Great list, but you left out a few 1961 run of FF # 12 this is their real first fight 2. Marvel features #12 3. Marvel super star giant sized special 1974 #1 4. Marvel Two In One #46 5. Hulk 1970 run #’s 152 - 153 6. Marvel greatest limited series # 5 7. Marvel adventures the thing #2 8. Marvel adventures FF # 12 And for fun What if vol 1 #’s 2, 12, 29,31 and 45 Oh and I forgot marvel Two in one annual #5 And I am sure there are a few more that I left off. But needless to say probably the most hero vs hero history in comics to date
The Thing was treated shabbily by Marvel. They should have had a rule that every third or fourth fight the Thing simply outfights the Hulk. Otherwise, the lesson is, whoever has the biggest muscles wins, and fighting skill means nothing. It cheapens the Thing to have him lose every time, and makes the fights uninteresting and predictable, if the Hulk wins every time. As the Thing would say, "I wuz robbed!!"
In their first fight ff#12 the very first thing the hulk said was arguing its like hitting a stone wall. and at the end of the Same issue hulk says wouldn't want run into thing right now wouldn't stand a chance against him. Hulk kept getting upgraded thing didn't.
There are st least 3 fights that got left off the list, they first squared up in FF before issues 25 - 26, then they hooked up again when their brains got switched in an FF annual,, then there's the time they fought in the desert in a two-in- one,and finally they found in fanfare ,so the actual times they fought each other is 13 times and looks like this 7-7-1
Always loved Hulk vs. Thing fights. When I was collecting, if I saw Hulk and Thing on the cover, it was an automatic buy. This video didn't get all the fights, I remember at least one in Marvel Fanfare that was quite fun.
I remember a fight where the thing bear hugged hulk from behind and jumped into a river, hulk was confident at first because he knew thing couldn't swim, and he could hold his breath longer than him so he just relaxed and attempted to wait him out, but then the thing did the heimlich maneuver on hulk and made him release all his air and nearly drowned him.
Because it's very rare that they get to have a 1v1 match. Also Savage Hulk is not as mindless as others would like to think , he still holds back specially against someone who is not set to kill him.
You forgot Marvel Feature 11 in 1973. In that issue, the Leader and Kurgo played the two against each other for their entertainment. Kurgo cheated by adding to Thing's strength with cosmic radiation.
In order to get a fight with these two in mcu, they would need to time travel from the doctor strange movie coming up because current mcu Hulk from endgame is completely different from avengers 1
It’s funny, every time they show World Breaker Hulk they never show him at his peak. A lot of people always show him when he’s in his Green Scar form(the form before he actually turns into world breaker hulk). Yes Green Scar fought sentry , the X men and everyone else. But few actually fought him when he actually reached his Insanely angry, radiation glowing, World Breaker Hulk peak, which was much more powerful than his green scar physical state . And later started destroying dimensions with World Breaker Red She Hulk in the Dark Dimension in the Heart Of The Monster comic series.
HOLD IT ! ORIGINAL HULK WAS GREY THEN ...WENT GREEN.... there were/are side stories where BG. BEAT Hulk...ALONE....mutated THING gave Hulk a good whompin ! Okay fans ? Ok.
You forgot the What If fight ..In What if the Hulk went Berserk where he kills the Thing , there’s another fight where he shatters the Thing in a Fantastic Four comic in the 80”s on the cover but that ended up being a dream . That’s technically 2 fights you missed , there’s also a graphic novel where they get traps on a alien planet and have to team up but I don’t remember off hand if they fought that was like around 1993 I think ?
His wrestling and having backup gives him an advantage with regular mindless Hulk but he's really no match for Hulk with intelligence. Hulk/Juggernaut is more of an equal fight.
The "Re-mutated" thing powered up a lot. He should have done much better vs the Grey hulk. The abomination was at 90 ton class, where the re-cosmic powered thing was 100 ton.
I like the one where Hulk and The Thing fight because they were bored. She-Hulk was flirting with Thing and Hulk told "stone man to leave Hulk's cousin alone". After Susan Storm separated them with a force field, Thing's answer was that they were just having "some fun while the eggheads were yakking".
You’re missing one… Maybe 2… There’s one where they’re literally fighting in an outdoor wrestling/boxing ring… I gotta find it… (I bought it when I was probably 10 years old in 1974) Marvel 2 in 1 maybe?
Oh man how could I forget The four part limited series Hard Knocks Marvel fanfare 21 And there is one more marvel fanfare not the featured story but a short backup story but the number escapes me at this time.
What about: "Cry Monster?" You failed to cover that fight between the two. It was also featured in: Hulk On The Rampage! It was back when they made those large, specialty comic books, such as: Spiderman Vs Superman. Or have you heard of them?
I hope I live long enough to see the Banner and Grimm in the same movie in the MCU.....
There are certain fights in the world of comics that I consider absolutely legendary: Thor vs. Hulk, Colossus vs. Juggernaut, and Hulk vs. Thing. We've gotten two of these fights already...I'd love to see the Hulk fight the Thing!!
@@Goldenbane and wolverine vs hulk
@@osadock17we got a little bit of that
Well, The fantastic four is finally coming to the MCU so it's not impossible, hopefully in secret wars we get it
I always thought Grimm would be the best Green Lantern from Marvel because of his legendary Willpower.
"Oh, the Hulk would win ..... The Thing is faster and smarter, so he would probably find a way to turn it into a draw or save himself. He’d trap or trick the Hulk. But, in a fair fight, there’s no way the Hulk [would lose]." --Stan Lee
Until the thing got a temporary power upgrade and the grey hulk outsmarted and beat the thing.
Bruce Banner : But before that, in a fair outright fight that Thing beat the crap outta that Hulk; so things really were reversed.
I have the ultimate respect for Stan Lee, but it seems you have quoted excerpts and added your own words. I would like to see the whole quote without the editing. Stan initially said the Thing and the Hulk were equally strong, but the Hulk was bigger and had an advantage. Regardless, a lot has happened since Stan stopped writing the characters.
Faster really?
Gamma rays > cosmic rays.
Don't forget Hulk/Thing: Hard Knocks. Where the two of them argue over who would win in a fair fight while they sit in a bar, knocking back beers, as a ton of soldiers point guns at them. It turns into them deciding to fight for real so they can finally settle things.
There is also Marvel Fanfare #21, Marvel Feature #11, Hulk vol 2, #9. Others, but these were slugfests.
@Craig Vann great line. It isn't true. I mean, dumb Hulk wasn't holding back and Grey Hulk certainly wasn't, he got whipped the first time. But it is totally a Hulk thing to say.
@Craig Vann That would be Incredible Hulk #365
Hulk vs The Thing are two mega powerful beings. I am glad to see neither one suffered as much
I love how in the worlds greatest heroes show, grimm constantly asserts he can take the hulk down, in emh, hulk is extremely vitriolic towards the thing because he thinks he’s stronger than him, bonus points for Yost working on both of them
The Earth's Mightiest Heroes cartoon? The episode with Dr. Doom in it?
The Hulk is in fact stronger than the Thing.
@@BrotherDerrick3X pineapple Thing was stronger then Grey Hulk.
@@cheeseburger12 I was speaking in general, not special circumstances.
@@BrotherDerrick3X The Thing is the favorite!
I just love it when Hulk and thing fight it's always epic
The Thing is always my guy because he has more heart than anyone! Always willing to slug it out with people far stronger than him and because he’s a good fighter he’s able to hold his own against more powerful but less skilled beings.
Hulk vs Thing and Hulk vs Thor are the most legendary glorious battles in comic book history 💪👍
Hulk vs. Wolverine?
Batman vs Superman?
Hulk vs juggernaut?
Hulk vs Iron Man?
Apple Vs Orange?
The Thing can't rage himself out. He's kinda like a chill Hulk that just neutralizes the Hulk. But the Thing isn't a push over by any means to Hulk.
Well I can’t say that now cause hulk has gotten stronger now
Juggernaut is the only real rival to Hulk
@@haroldcruz8550 And Thor.
@@Hektols They are more like allies and there's only a few instances when they really fought as opponents
The Thing is more in line with Colossus in the strength dept, they both can be trounced by an enraged Hulk
I was thinking more "angry pinecone" than "angry pineapple" but it works.
I remember him being referred to as Pinapple Thing way back in the day.
well for me it was like a bigass jackfruit
I liked that version of him.
I personally prefer the Thing but Hulk is more famous therefore he will always win. Thing only defeats him in comics because the Hulk is brainwashed. Also Hulk's power is limitless since he will get stronger the angrier he becomes. The Thing doesn't have this power.
It’s not actually limitless since humans have a limit on how angry they can get and how long they can stay angry.
It's limitless.
They missed the boat on the explanation. I believe that it should be, the longer he remains enraged, the more powerful he becomes.
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It would be cool if the MCU adopted this for their movie on the Fantastic Four
It just has to be done, maybe in a sequel
Would be the only reason I would watch a fantastic 4 movie
For that to happen they need to get rid of professor hulk
@@12thMandalorian They could defeat Doom. Next time for the rematch he could sic the Hulk on them.
If they figure out how to remove the professor this would be a really really fun fight to see on screen
I really hope we get a proper Hulk vs Thing fight in the MCU
FF #25-- Hulk beat Thing. It was Rick Jones who stopped Hulk in the next issue when Hulk was fighting both the FF and Avengers.
FF #112 -- Thing never seemed about to win.
FF #534-535 -- Reed wasn't involved at all.
There are several fights missing from this list, as well.
That’s how I remember it’s ue 25 as well. Thing got humbled
Fantastic Four 112 is one of the greatest comics ever published, and deserves so much more attention & praise than it receives. Still a high water mark in super-beings going toe to toe with one another.
Yes and made all the more better by John Buscema's art. I don't think anybody has ever drawn the Thing nearly as good as Buscema.
Just wait a couple weeks and WhatCulture will post a totally new and different video "What happened every time the Hulk fought The Thing."
Well, there were some they missed, so they could do here are 9 more times the Hulk and Thing fought.
You would make a good dalek
Finally someone acknowledges bens ability to defeat hulk! Thank you so much!
4:15 angry pineapple 🤣🤣🤣🤣, Nice and smooth joke took me off guard and a admit I laugh a lot!
@WhatCulture Comics, In Hulk 350, you didn't explain that Hulk gave Thing the heimlich maneuver and shoved him into Central Park lake. Thing almost drowed and as he crawled out of the lake he just took his breath of air and Hulk KO'd him on the spot and said, "99.9% of the time brute force will get you through anything but there's always a 01% chance of getting your butt kicked!" Which is what made that an epic comic!
The Thing is like The Hulks lifting partner at the gym. Hulk beats him in every lift but is no slouch. Arnold and Franco IRL
That wasn't World breaker Hulk, that was World War Hulk, World Breaker is what Hulk changed into at the end of WWH. World Breaker would have killed the Thing
Yup 💯
100% right
You missed Marvel Feature 11 and Giant Size Superheroes 1. Great fights.
This certainly isn’t every time they’ve fought. I remember one where Hulk was winning and Dr. Strange intervened, one where they were just beating each other up and stopped when they needed to combine forces and at least two others where Hulk simply beat the hell out of Grimm. As a fan of both characters, I like seeing them go at it because regardless of the result, it’s always a good fight.
Great list, but you left out a few
1961 run of FF # 12 this is their real first fight
2. Marvel features #12
3. Marvel super star giant sized special 1974
#1
4. Marvel Two In One #46
5. Hulk 1970 run #’s 152 - 153
6. Marvel greatest limited series # 5
7. Marvel adventures the thing #2
8. Marvel adventures FF # 12
And for fun
What if vol 1 #’s 2, 12, 29,31 and 45
Oh and I forgot marvel Two in one annual #5
And I am sure there are a few more that I left off. But needless to say probably the most hero vs hero history in comics to date
What's the real win totals?
I would of loved to see a Real Match in a Hulk Vs. Animated movie.
What happens when Hulk & Thing duke it out= chaos. Mayhem. Some collateral damage.
I’m glad the thing got one solid win against the hulk
In a one on one fight without story conveniences , hulk smashes.
The Thing was treated shabbily by Marvel. They should have had a rule that every third or fourth fight the Thing simply outfights the Hulk. Otherwise, the lesson is, whoever has the biggest muscles wins, and fighting skill means nothing. It cheapens the Thing to have him lose every time, and makes the fights uninteresting and predictable, if the Hulk wins every time.
As the Thing would say, "I wuz robbed!!"
Hulk is stronger
@@JohnSmith-nu4ix Foreman was stronger than Ali and still lost.
@@johnnybgoode1950Superman was stronger then Ali but he lost.
I have to say, Pinapple Thing is my favorite version. Loved the look and the strength upgrade.
PREACH!!!
Absolutely loved that version
In their first fight ff#12 the very first thing the hulk said was arguing its like hitting a stone wall. and at the end of the Same issue hulk says wouldn't want run into thing right now wouldn't stand a chance against him. Hulk kept getting upgraded thing didn't.
What about the time that they arm wrestled, back in the 1992 Hulk Annual #18?
Every time? They've fought more times than this. You haven't mentioned the first time they met. It was in an early FF.
We just may get this in the MCU one day.
If they manage to get The Fantastic Four franchise right
@@vond5829 I have the utmost faith in Feige.
I see them more as frenemies kinda like Hulk and Thor or Hulk and Wolverine
There are st least 3 fights that got left off the list, they first squared up in FF before issues 25 - 26, then they hooked up again when their brains got switched in an FF annual,, then there's the time they fought in the desert in a two-in- one,and finally they found in fanfare ,so the actual times they fought each other is 13 times and looks like this 7-7-1
I remember them arm wrestling once and everyone trying to stop them. It was mid 90s
Always loved Hulk vs. Thing fights. When I was collecting, if I saw Hulk and Thing on the cover, it was an automatic buy. This video didn't get all the fights, I remember at least one in Marvel Fanfare that was quite fun.
I remember a fight where the thing bear hugged hulk from behind and jumped into a river, hulk was confident at first because he knew thing couldn't swim, and he could hold his breath longer than him so he just relaxed and attempted to wait him out, but then the thing did the heimlich maneuver on hulk and made him release all his air and nearly drowned him.
If Hulk becomes stronger after getting madder in every one of his rights how come he still having trouble stomping the thing?
because plot
@@theonethatlookslikethisone1280 Basically!🤣
Because Bruce Banner has some degree of influence over Hulk.
Because even though the Thing doesn't get stronger by raging out, he's still - The Thing!
Because it's very rare that they get to have a 1v1 match. Also Savage Hulk is not as mindless as others would like to think , he still holds back specially against someone who is not set to kill him.
"bitter rivalship"
Me remembering they fought over a game of bowling once:
Oy. Lol.
what happened everytime thor fought the hulk would be nice
You forgot Marvel Feature 11 in 1973. In that issue, the Leader and Kurgo played the two against each other for their entertainment. Kurgo cheated by adding to Thing's strength with cosmic radiation.
They forgot a few. Marvel Fanfare #21. Hulk Vol 2 #9. Others that weren't huge slugfests.
You know they JUST fought again five months ago in Immortal Hulk 41, right? One-sided as it was, it was still a fight.
More like this awesome video related to Hulk and The Thing . Please sir.🤞🏻
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It's nice to go looking for an answer to a question and finding the perfect video. Thanks brother.
In order to get a fight with these two in mcu, they would need to time travel from the doctor strange movie coming up because current mcu Hulk from endgame is completely different from avengers 1
Hulk simply is built different
Hulk would always win against the Thing in a direct fight but it will never be easy. There's not a lot of people that can knock out the Thing.
The thing is very underrated character, being as strong as the Hulk and also as quick, if he was enlarge like ant man he be even stronger
How about a great Marvel FF movie featuring the Hulk vs The Thing fight.
Hulk for the win 😎
2:12 - “Bruce!?”
The narrator is obviously not a Hulk fan.
6:20 to 6:25 really shows a "fully developed" character being used masterfully. WoW!
Can’t wait for secret wars, this needs to happen
I Feel Like The Last One Do Not Count
They first fought in Fantastic Four #12, the fight in #25-26 was their second. Way to blow it at the very beginning of the video.
They often fight in the cartoons, Thing wont back down...but he never wins,lol.
Can you make a video top 10 super celestial beings of the DC universe
I like that idea.
You spelled Marvel wrong
@@chozengaming8547 No he didnt.
Yeah Yeah
was this really all the times they fought? seem like there were more, also you should do one for all the times Hulk fought the Avengers
It wasn't. Outcomes and descriptions are incorrect in a few cited here, as well.
@@DreadedDormammu Yep
Way more Hulk only real loss was to the pineapple thing
The Hulk is strongest there is...
Until It’s CLOBBERIN’ TIME!
Hulk broke him piece by piece and built a house out of him
There's also in Ultimate Fantastic 4 where Thing uppercuts Zombie Hulk.
Thing should get more durability the more injured he becomes, this would off set Hulk's strength increase and regeneration in an interesting way.
Nanomachines, son.
Things awsome!
But every time he fought HULK, Thing got stomped.
True
Not Every time,,,!
Unless the thing gets the serious power amp he deserves he's always going to be beaten by the Hulk ..
I wish they would make the thing stronger than he is.
They should've given him the power to absorb cosmic energy to enhance himself
World-breaker Hulk is fucking EPIC!
It’s funny, every time they show World Breaker Hulk they never show him at his peak. A lot of people always show him when he’s in his Green Scar form(the form before he actually turns into world breaker hulk). Yes Green Scar fought sentry , the X men and everyone else. But few actually fought him when he actually reached his Insanely angry, radiation glowing, World Breaker Hulk peak, which was much more powerful than his green scar physical state . And later started destroying dimensions with World Breaker Red She Hulk in the Dark Dimension in the Heart Of The Monster comic series.
HOLD IT ! ORIGINAL HULK WAS GREY THEN ...WENT GREEN.... there were/are side stories where BG. BEAT Hulk...ALONE....mutated THING gave Hulk a good whompin ! Okay fans ? Ok.
Original Hulk also had a bullet in his head.
You forgot the What If fight ..In What if the Hulk went Berserk where he kills the Thing , there’s another fight where he shatters the Thing in a Fantastic Four comic in the 80”s on the cover but that ended up being a dream . That’s technically 2 fights you missed , there’s also a graphic novel where they get traps on a alien planet and have to team up but I don’t remember off hand if they fought that was like around 1993 I think ?
His wrestling and having backup gives him an advantage with regular mindless Hulk but he's really no match for Hulk with intelligence. Hulk/Juggernaut is more of an equal fight.
What he said !!!
They should upgrade the Thing with some Reed tech. Vibranium gauntlets and armor. Amplify his strength and durability.
The "Re-mutated" thing powered up a lot. He should have done much better vs the Grey hulk. The abomination was at 90 ton class, where the re-cosmic powered thing was 100 ton.
So all I hear is the thing needs help from his friends to defeat the hulk
No doubt about it, the Thing is both stronger and a better fighter if he truly lets go.
Hulk is far stronger than
Ngl I was worried hulk was boutta go undefeated in this one. I'm glad the thing put up a good fight
Hulk vs Wolverine next. That rivalry is almost better than Batman and Superman when they’re fighting.
I’ve still got the Fantastic Four books #166-167!
After Over 54 yrs It's the Hulk 5 and the Thing 4? Rematch. I Like the Thing, More.
The last fight where Hulk being controlled by The Puppet Master shouldn't count cause Grimm was technically fighting PM and not the Hulk.
Dumb statement
The Thing beat the Hulk in Fantastic Four #320. Great fight!!!
You forgot Marvel Feature #11 from 1973.
When they did the Hulk vs series they should’ve thrown in Hulk vs thing to round out as a trilogy
What about a list of everybody's favorite superhero's from whatculture comics?
I like the one where Hulk and The Thing fight because they were bored. She-Hulk was flirting with Thing and Hulk told "stone man to leave Hulk's cousin alone". After Susan Storm separated them with a force field, Thing's answer was that they were just having "some fun while the eggheads were yakking".
The sad poetry the each man has the one quality the other desperately misses. Celebrity vs an On/Off switch.
The hulk has proven time and again that he can smash that orange rock man.
Can we have a Hulk-Thing-Juggernaut 3-way?
You left out their first encounter in “Fantastic Four” #12 in 1962.
Hulk was a Backstreet Boy????
You’re missing one…
Maybe 2… There’s one where they’re literally fighting in an outdoor wrestling/boxing ring…
I gotta find it… (I bought it when I was probably 10 years old in 1974)
Marvel 2 in 1 maybe?
I was looking for another 'the thing' (the one from John Carpenter) but i wasnt dissapointed by this video.
What about the original Fantastic Four #12, the first Marvel crossover story?
Oh man how could I forget
The four part limited series Hard Knocks
Marvel fanfare 21
And there is one more marvel fanfare not the featured story but a short backup story but the number escapes me at this time.
What about: "Cry Monster?" You failed to cover that fight between the two. It was also featured in: Hulk On The Rampage! It was back when they made those large, specialty comic books, such as: Spiderman Vs Superman. Or have you heard of them?
we need a hulk v thing fight in the MCU fr
You said " the strongest Avenger," but I never heard you mention Thor. I only heard you talking about this Hulk.
I can’t wait see it in live action!
You missed one. Marvel Feature number 11.