depends on how you scale kid goku, i personally think saying he's light speed is pretty absurd but there is plenty of evidence to back it up apparently shit i might have to go do a video debunking his light speed like i did with stands lmao
@@Warriordud yea definetly, because that means everything that has beaten him (examples being piloffs mechs, yamcha, hell even dinosaurs at some points in time) would mean they would also be at the very least relativistic
SSJ2 isn’t a weaker form than Grade 2 or Grade 3. For simplicity sake we just say it’s 2x SSJ1, but it’s actually 2x the Mastered SSJ1 form which in itself for whatever reason is stronger than Grade 2 and Grade 3 due to it being energy efficient…which doesn’t really make sense considering SSJ2 and 3 exist but whatever lmao
at 6:53 i think you made a mistake here as light, which is more than 80 times that speed, can only travel around the earth 7.5 times in a second, which is way slower then over 300 times a second, but it can travel over 300 times the earth in an hour great vid nonetheless though, keep it up🔥
goku said vegeta would have had to have gotten 3x stronger to beat cell, so 3x50 is 150 then we had a statement that grade 3 is 10x stronger than the previous form, probably meaning grade 2, so 1500 it doesnt make much sense but that's what i had to work off of for the multpliers, so that's what i used
@@Warriordud Was this before or after his htc training if before you also have to think about the boost to his base strength from a year of training, and i think grade 3 strength wise is >= to ssj2 but less than ssj3
The average Human Power level is between 1-4, but let's say 4 because it's mostly the stronger ones reaching new heights easier. Applying the known multipliers we get Base: 4 SSJ1, G1: 200 Grade 2: 600 Grade 3: 6.000 Grade 4/mastered*: 6.000 SSJ2: 12.000 SSJ3: 48.000 SSJ4*: 60.000 *Mastered Super Saiyan is said to be stronger due to being energy efficient and not as sluggish as grade 3, not due to having "more strength", so I use the same multiplier. And for SSJ4, I used Mastered Super Saiyan + Great ape. Comparisons: At Super saiyan, you'd be stronger than demon king Piccolo. And once you perfect it, you could mop the floor with Nappa. SSJ2, you are stronger than base Saiyan Saga Goku. SSJ3, you could square up with RECOOME and win. SSJ4 and you'd be on early Namek-Saga Vegeta level. You'd be still weaker than Great ape Vegeta with his 180.000 Plv.
@@Warriordudexactly, it seems to be amplifier that stenches but relies on perfect ki control and movements rather than boosting him million Also I wouldn't count it surpassing his forms since it like ultimate probably takes his whole power into a diffent and new transformations So aka it shouldn't count the super Saiyan pls God form muitplers.
@@Warriordudalso to make it easier Super Saiyan God does not stack on super Saiyan forms And super saying blue by toriyama version at least is a 50 super saiyan using god ki. Ultra instinct probably uses divine ki more efffectintly and boosts him only somewhat my guess at least who can tell 🤷🏼♀️ , toriyama didn't invent mui look up causal anime guy vidieo on ultra instinct if u wanna It is Preety great and informative 😊🎉?
i would love to do a video on that but ultra ego is about the same as ultra instinct, except more complicated, so trying to work out the multiplier would be painful and a video just on how strong you would be with ssjbe would be pretty short lmao
Not to mentiom that moving at 48.6% the speed of light would be enough make everything else feel stationary to you. Speed is honestly the most broken stat here, no way you could move that fast without the durability to endure it.
When you think about it FTL makes no sense. You canonically have characters who can’t sense ki as major plot points (Freeza, 17 & 18) yet they can fight faster than light? How are they able to see? Vision is based on light bouncing off of objects. And don’t get me started of sound (mechanical waves).
@@sigiligus yeah according to science you wouldn't be able to see or hear at light speed (or at least what you did see/hear would be fragmented and confusing) a lot of people try to argue around this by saying light/sound is just faster in the dragon ball universe, although this doesnt really make sense because unless lasers and stuff are slower than light speed in db, by the claims that goku is light speed because he dodged lasers against the red ribbon army then he would still be moving at db's light speed
SSJ2 does not stack on the initial SSJ 50x mulitplier, but rather on top of the SSJ grade 4 multiplier, which is equal to, if not higher than, SSJ grade 3, so, unfortunately, your calculations for SSJ2+3 are incorrect.
Me base plv:6 Me ssj plv:300(could destroy the earth) Me ssj2 plv:600 Me ssj3 plv:2400 Me ssj4 plv:30000 Me ssgod plv:600k Me ssb plv:30 million Me ssbkk×20 plv:1.2 billion Me uio plv:19.2 trillion Me mui plv:21.6 trillion Me ui susanno:2.16 quaddrillion
The average human has a power level of about 5 and we know this because Raditz measured the farmer with a shotgun. A Super Human would have a power level of 250. To put into perspective this is stronger than Roshi when he blew up the Moon in the original Dragonball.
Is the destructive capability just a standing punch because if not obviously it would be way higher if they were moving at these incredible speeds to build momentum
How disappointing that an average human with MUI still gets beaten by Kid Goku
depends on how you scale kid goku, i personally think saying he's light speed is pretty absurd but there is plenty of evidence to back it up apparently
shit i might have to go do a video debunking his light speed like i did with stands lmao
@@Warriordud yea definetly, because that means everything that has beaten him (examples being piloffs mechs, yamcha, hell even dinosaurs at some points in time) would mean they would also be at the very least relativistic
@@centless554 true...light speed dinosaurs go hard 🗣🗣🗣
@@Warriordudthose dinosaurs are soemthing else 😅 I love dinosaurs so it's cool lol 🦕🦖
I heard light speed in db is like FTL to MFTL, don't know if it true or not, just thought I mention it
can you oil up next
if this video gets 1000 likes, then yes
@@Warriordud 30 is close enough, oil up
@@Warriordud time to make 1000 alt accounts
@@JasonAizatoZemeckis aw shit
I'm helping the cause@@Warriordud
SSJ2 isn’t a weaker form than Grade 2 or Grade 3. For simplicity sake we just say it’s 2x SSJ1, but it’s actually 2x the Mastered SSJ1 form which in itself for whatever reason is stronger than Grade 2 and Grade 3 due to it being energy efficient…which doesn’t really make sense considering SSJ2 and 3 exist but whatever lmao
very nice, im new to the fandom so your work is very helpfull
lets get 1000 likes so he can oil up its only at 610 rn please guys please
too late, it had to be within a week!
W VIDEO man keep it up.
SSJG is deff more than 20k. Goku could barely control himself when he first got the form.
Yes, of course. But do you want this to become incomprehensible.
Probably for the ritual form yes, but the ritual is far stronger compared to the one they use afterwards. Which I think is the one he's using.
@@captaincringe9480 The ritual gives the person's base perm god ki buff for DBS Anime
I don't think the form's power changed
@@he_who_has_no_name It is not 20k tho bro.
Idk why you are thinking it is impossible to get a rough estimate.
It is likely no more than 1 million.
at 6:53 i think you made a mistake here as light, which is more than 80 times that speed, can only travel around the earth 7.5 times in a second, which is way slower then over 300 times a second, but it can travel over 300 times the earth in an hour
great vid nonetheless though, keep it up🔥
bro super saiyan is 50 SSJ2 is 100 SSJ3 is 400 how did you even come to the conclusion that GRADE 3 is 1500x 😭
Guides
@@he_who_has_no_name guides don’t overwrite what the author intents??
goku said vegeta would have had to have gotten 3x stronger to beat cell, so 3x50 is 150
then we had a statement that grade 3 is 10x stronger than the previous form, probably meaning grade 2, so 1500
it doesnt make much sense but that's what i had to work off of for the multpliers, so that's what i used
@@Warriordud Was this before or after his htc training if before you also have to think about the boost to his base strength from a year of training, and i think grade 3 strength wise is >= to ssj2 but less than ssj3
@@Warriordudyou’re also forgetting about power level increase I’m pretty sure that’s what he meant
The average Human Power level is between 1-4, but let's say 4 because it's mostly the stronger ones reaching new heights easier. Applying the known multipliers we get
Base: 4
SSJ1, G1: 200
Grade 2: 600
Grade 3: 6.000
Grade 4/mastered*: 6.000
SSJ2: 12.000
SSJ3: 48.000
SSJ4*: 60.000
*Mastered Super Saiyan is said to be stronger due to being energy efficient and not as sluggish as grade 3, not due to having "more strength", so I use the same multiplier.
And for SSJ4, I used Mastered Super Saiyan + Great ape.
Comparisons:
At Super saiyan, you'd be stronger than demon king Piccolo. And once you perfect it, you could mop the floor with Nappa. SSJ2, you are stronger than base Saiyan Saga Goku. SSJ3, you could square up with RECOOME and win. SSJ4 and you'd be on early Namek-Saga Vegeta level.
You'd be still weaker than Great ape Vegeta with his 180.000 Plv.
this video works on the statistics of humans instead of in-universe power levels, because power levels are non-linear
@Warriordud I know. But Power levels do be funny numbers.
@@yamato9753 fr
I could only imagine how a ssj4 5 & 6 would be
last time i checked ultra instinct was like 90,000,000x multiplier
Way higher than that. Low ball SSJBE is 20,000,000x multiplier.
there's no official multiplier, that's just what i found
@@Warriordudexactly, it seems to be amplifier that stenches but relies on perfect ki control and movements rather than boosting him million
Also I wouldn't count it surpassing his forms since it like ultimate probably takes his whole power into a diffent and new transformations
So aka it shouldn't count the super Saiyan pls God form muitplers.
@@Warriordudalso to make it easier
Super Saiyan God does not stack on super Saiyan forms
And super saying blue by toriyama version at least is a 50 super saiyan using god ki.
Ultra instinct probably uses divine ki more efffectintly and boosts him only somewhat my guess at least who can tell 🤷🏼♀️ , toriyama didn't invent mui look up causal anime guy vidieo on ultra instinct if u wanna
It is Preety great and informative 😊🎉?
Grade 2 and 3 are far weaker than ssj2 but ok
(manga spoilers)
Pls do this with vegetas form but since most of his forms are same just make a small video about blue evelution and ultra ego pls
i would love to do a video on that but ultra ego is about the same as ultra instinct, except more complicated, so trying to work out the multiplier would be painful
and a video just on how strong you would be with ssjbe would be pretty short lmao
Add SSG rage form
And ssj tablos
@@dunned-e5e wtf even is that
and yajirobe
If someone had speed twice the speed of light they would destroy the entire universe just by moving, ain't that a bit krazy?
Not to mentiom that moving at 48.6% the speed of light would be enough make everything else feel stationary to you. Speed is honestly the most broken stat here, no way you could move that fast without the durability to endure it.
yup joe is a world ending threat
That’s anime for you
When you think about it FTL makes no sense. You canonically have characters who can’t sense ki as major plot points (Freeza, 17 & 18) yet they can fight faster than light? How are they able to see? Vision is based on light bouncing off of objects. And don’t get me started of sound (mechanical waves).
@@sigiligus yeah according to science you wouldn't be able to see or hear at light speed (or at least what you did see/hear would be fragmented and confusing)
a lot of people try to argue around this by saying light/sound is just faster in the dragon ball universe, although this doesnt really make sense because unless lasers and stuff are slower than light speed in db, by the claims that goku is light speed because he dodged lasers against the red ribbon army then he would still be moving at db's light speed
SSJ2 does not stack on the initial SSJ 50x mulitplier, but rather on top of the SSJ grade 4 multiplier, which is equal to, if not higher than, SSJ grade 3, so, unfortunately, your calculations for SSJ2+3 are incorrect.
trust me bruh
how about strong would you be with all ghost rider forms 💀
Me base plv:6
Me ssj plv:300(could destroy the earth)
Me ssj2 plv:600
Me ssj3 plv:2400
Me ssj4 plv:30000
Me ssgod plv:600k
Me ssb plv:30 million
Me ssbkk×20 plv:1.2 billion
Me uio plv:19.2 trillion
Me mui plv:21.6 trillion
Me ui susanno:2.16 quaddrillion
What about super saiyan 5 or 6
The fact that we need ssjb to end the namek saga by ourselves is crazy
@@NathanielPiscian me ssj5 plv:5.4 quadrillion
Me ssj6 plv:10.8 quadrillion
@@chamow2787 actully thats cuz I was at a base of 6 youd be at 4-5
@@chamow2787 i simply trained
jit does not understand how to interpret multipliers 🤦♂️
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Could you discuss what would have happened if Goku landed on earth instead?
i think you made a typo (or you're just trolling lmao)
The average human has a power level of about 5 and we know this because Raditz measured the farmer with a shotgun. A Super Human would have a power level of 250. To put into perspective this is stronger than Roshi when he blew up the Moon in the original Dragonball.
as mentioned in the first video, i'm taking a scientific approach instead of an in-universe approach
In real life without ki manipulation a human 50 times stronger wouldn’t be able to do all that
Don't you mean a super saiyan human?
@@Ash-Winchesterthis is like saying "Super Lobster Dog"
i feel like it's closer to 3-4 pl for the average human, since farmers are stronger then a guy with a 9-5 office job due to the nature of their job
Nah you should've used power levels instead of psi
All ssj multiplier is for power level not states
do you have a discord? i'd like to ask you a few questions (great video btw)
sure it's warriordud
Mastered SSJ is implied to be much stronger than Grade 3 given how shocked everyone was with Goku's and Gohan's strength.
their base got stronger is all. only that makes the most sense
Is the destructive capability just a standing punch because if not obviously it would be way higher if they were moving at these incredible speeds to build momentum
exactly